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Spot The Bigger Bubble

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One of these is an irrational bubble created by millions of uneducated investors piling into markets because they are convinced there is just one more greater fool.. and the other is Chinese Stocks.

 

 

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Wed, 06/10/2015 - 10:29 | 6182331 NoDebt
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China > Netflix

We're slacking, guys.  Slacking badly.  These results are unacceptable.  Just because our bubble stocks beat their bubble stocks in 2014 is no guarantee of future results.  All of you back to the biler room and sell, sell SELL!

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 10:33 | 6182354 NoDebt
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It seems some of you need a little motivation.  Like maybe I'm not serious about this.  

"I'm here from downtown.  Mitch and Murray sent me.  I'm here on a mission of mercy.  PUT.  THAT.  COFFEE.  DOWN.  Coffee's for closers....."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kZg_ALxEz0

 

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 10:43 | 6182391 pods
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When I first started looking at why NFLX was doing so well it came to me that NFLX is an inverse indicator of how well things are going.

Look at what it does. It allows the user to instantaneously escape to a reality that makes them feel good. And it's cheap, unlike coke or heroin.

So, when things are going well, people will go out and do things that bring enjoyment. When things are shitty, they use up their non-work hours by escaping for hours on end to that which makes them forget about how shitty things are.

I guess it doesn't hurt that there is too much funny money running around chasing yield, but the whole market for NFLX is instant escape for non-busy time.  That time would be when you thought about your current situation and the details of why it came about.

pods

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 10:52 | 6182426 mtl4
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That is exactly the same thing as the Great Depression, NFLX is the modern day movie theater where people escape to in their own minds when times are tough........good call pods.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 13:50 | 6183109 NihilistZero
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I'll take it one step further.  Comic Book movies are the new musicals.

The depression era musicals were stories graceful people living comfortable lives that allowed a strong morality.  Kind of a nice escape from the shitty depression era and the evil people who caused it.

Comic Book movies have heroes fighting for something.  Most of the heroes are flawed and imperfect, but they persevere over villains that are usually ideologically bent towards ultimate control.  Juxtapose that with our AG saying that the real villains are to big to fight yet our earnest heroes will be sacrificed for the same villains selfish causes.

Rogers/Stark 2016!!!  Vote for real leaders that represent the people :-)

BTW Iron Man 2 is a very interesting take on libertarianism and personal responsibility.  It gets unfairly shit on by a lot of people who missed the message.

As for NFLX, I always assumed most people new what pods had figured out.  If you can't afford to go out or enjoy life and .gov makes taking drugs (that aren't there's) such a dicey proposition, binge watching TV shows for hours on end is a pretty good option.  Admittedly there's a lot of great fucking TV on nowadays...

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 12:20 | 6182807 mtndds
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You Sir, are a genious!!  I would never thought of that.  Bravo.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 13:11 | 6183005 Sages wife
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Agreed. Long liquor.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 10:50 | 6182420 Sonic the porcupine
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I don't know if Chinese stocks are in a bubble or not, but the Chinese do have a lot of savings that was in cash before. That doens't account for the high margin usage. But they do have a lot of savings to invest, unlike the average american.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 12:09 | 6182761 Bloppy
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Every time it seems like we've reached Peak Madness / Crowd Delusion, somebody decides it isn't quite enough.

I don't even bother trying to convince anyone of the unsustainability of this, nobody wants to hear it.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 12:20 | 6182806 Jumbotron
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** ALERT **

Watch out ZeroHedge commenters.  The DOJ could be coming for you.

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/the-government-wants-names-of-online-co...

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 10:27 | 6182332 sodbuster
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Winning!!!!

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 10:28 | 6182336 kaa1016
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The move that the options have made in NFLX is insane. I hate it because I thought about buying the 650 calls that expire this week when the stock crossed through 635 yesterday. They were at $1.80. Now they're $30. Fuck!!!!

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 10:40 | 6182380 Rainman
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jeezus ! ...frontrunning insanity has been the winning play < since Lehman >

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 10:44 | 6182394 kaa1016
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I stand corrected. Those options just hit $41. $1.80 to $41 in two days, on no news...WTF.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 10:55 | 6182431 mtl4
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It's only going to get more stupid in the days to come as the stock market and the consumer's morale will further part ways.

 

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 10:40 | 6182382 Pareto
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+100 Fuck!!!!.......I say this EVERY DAAAAAY

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 10:37 | 6182365 madcows
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it's a whole lot easier to go full retard on one stock than it is to go full retard on an entire exchange.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 10:45 | 6182406 ElixirMixer
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True, but the Chinese don't discriminate when it comes to stocks.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 10:49 | 6182418 ZoroAustrian
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The whole US market is at least as big a bubble as China.  China's market is something like 40% of GDP, US equity markets are 1.5x.  Valuations in consumer discretionary and Internet Bubble 3.0 are stupid and the aggregate market cap of the stupidity is much bigger in the US than in China.  Plus all the funny money floating around China has its origins in the FRNs printed to finance the endless US trade defiicit with China.

The USD is the one bubble to rule them all.  All the others are just symptoms / spinoffs from the grandaddy.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 10:42 | 6182390 Superdave532
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Yeah it's probably overvalued, but what's going to cause it to drop? This is an enormously popular service with a reputation for quality. With their recent net neutrality win over the ISP's, they're only going to be even more popular. Maybe a general decline in stocks would cause them to drop, but otherwise, the only way it's going to go down is if suddenly their massive consumer base is no longer able to pay subscriptions. At least they're selling content, not ads like Facebook or whatever the hell snapchat sells.. 

Thoughts? 

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 10:44 | 6182402 max2205
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$30 by 2020....pre  split

 

Bookmark it

 

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 10:53 | 6182428 khakuda
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Good thing central banks see no bubbles and are complicitly keeping rates at zero forever into the future.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 11:39 | 6182623 lasvegaspersona
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I'd like a 30 year loan at -30%.

I could die rich. 

I wonder if Janet could arragne one.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 12:59 | 6182971 Bobbo
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Would you like paper or plastic?

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 13:00 | 6182968 Bobbo
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It's a race to the pop.

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