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US Will Send 400 More Troops To Iraq Bringing Total To 3,500; Open New Military Base

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As reported yesterday, in the latest escalation of the "war on ISIS", Obama - winner of the Nobel peace prize for pulling US soldiers out of Iraq - was said to be sending even more US soldiers, pardon military advisors, to Iraq to halt the inexplicable, constant expansion of ISIS, now deep in Syrian territory. Earlier today, this was confirmed when Reuters reported that, as expected, the US will announce on Wednesday plans for a new military base in Iraq's Anbar province and the deployment of around 400 additional U.S. trainers to help Iraqi forces in the fight against Islamic State, citing an unnamed U.S. official.

From Reuters:

The plan would expand the 3,100-strong U.S. contingent of trainers and advisers in Iraq and would mark an adjustment in strategy for President Barack Obama, who is facing mounting criticism for not being tougher in combating Islamic State.

 

U.S. officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, expressed hope that even a modestly strengthened U.S. presence could help Iraqi forces plan and carry out a counter-attack to retake Anbar's capital Ramadi, which insurgents seized last month.

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The expected troop announcement was unlikely to silence Obama's critics, who say the modest contingent of U.S. forces is far from enough to turn the tide of battle.

In an administration in which the aptly named US Freedom Act does precisely the opposite of what its name suggests, it was good to see that the semantic games continue: as Reuters further notes, "Obama was expected to stick to his stance against sending U.S. troops into combat or even close to the front lines, officials said." And yet, he is doing just that.

So Obama is not sending troops, even as there are about to be 3,500 US troops, pardon, military trainers and advisors in Iraq. Is anyone truly fooled by this sad attempt at verbal sleight of hand?

But while soldiers are better known as "advisors", a base is still a base, and as such the US is about to open its 5th military base in Iraq. According to AP, "the extra U.S. training site will be at al-Taqqadum, a desert air base that was a U.S. military hub during the 2003-2011 war. Establishing the training camp will require between 400 and 500 U.S. troops, including trainers, logisticians and security personnel, the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because a final administration decision had not been announced. 

The U.S. already is training Iraqi troops at four sites — two in the vicinity of Baghdad, one at al-Asad air base in Anbar province and one near Irbil in northern Iraq.

A base which puts not only Syria, but Damascus within easy reach once the Assad regime is overthrown, an outcome which now seems to be just a matter of time.

What is the official explanation for the latest troop, pardon "advisor" surge?

Dempsey said there will be no radical change to the U.S. approach in Iraq. Rather, it is a recognition that the effort has either been too slow or has allowed setbacks where "certain units have not stood and fought." He did not mention the Ramadi rout specifically, but Dempsey previously has said the Iraqis drove out of the city on their own.

 

 "Are there ways to give them more confidence?" This, he said, is among the questions Obama wanted Dempsey and others to answer.

In reality what is really taking place is what we explained yesterday:

it appears the US doesn’t know whether it wants to stick with what was probably the original plan (i.e. wait until ISIS overruns Assad and then storm in with 10,000 marines to ‘liberate’ the country before installing a more ‘agreeable’ leader after some farce of an election) or speed up the process by claiming that Assad is in fact working with ISIS and using the imaginary unholy alliance as an excuse to invade now. 

 

If Washington tends to go with Plan A, it would certainly make sense why Obama told leaders at the G-7 that this US doesn’t “yet have a complete strategy because it requires commitments on the part of the Iraqis.” The strategy probably goes something like this: 1) bide time until Assad’s army is decimated, 2) issue burn notice on black-flag waving former CIA asset, 3) announce Syria’s liberation, 4) install puppet government, 5) send “you’re welcome” note to Saudi Arabia and Qatar.

 

The only thing “incomplete” here is securing public support for ground troops. Lately, the US has begun to float a few “boots on the ground” trial balloons, with some hawks suggesting that forward “spotters” may be necessary in order to make the aerial assault on ISIS more ‘effective’ and today, we get a few more feelers from The White House, as the President is reportedly considering sending additional troops to Iraq “for training.

We can now scratch out the "reportedly" because slowly but surely, the endgame vis-a-vis Syria, and that long overdue Qatari natgas pipeline to Europe, is taking place.

 

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Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:09 | 6181841 Quinvarius
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In his effort to look like he is not a liar, he is going to half step it instead.  Great.  Lets do a half assed job.  Either we are serious about our allies or not.  Do the job quickly or stop.  Read some Sun Tsu clownbama.  End it.  Don't keep fighting it badly.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:10 | 6181846 VinceFostersGhost
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Surge : ON

 

We're back bitchez!

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:13 | 6181854 Headbanger
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Can we please try to NOT leave a bunch of hardware there for the next batch of bad guys !?

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:15 | 6181856 Took Red Pill
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That's intentional. Has Obama kept ANY of his campaign promises?

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:16 | 6181863 VinceFostersGhost
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No.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:19 | 6181875 Divine Wind
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John Kerry is alive and tweeting photos from his hospital room:

https://twitter.com/JohnKerry/status/608391024340303872/photo/1

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:46 | 6181902 two hoots
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Obama's legacy is the concern.  Keep it going until he is gone then blame the next guy.   Sure the Pentagon (civilians and desk warriors) is trying to save face also as they have pumped the President and themselves up with superior macho crap.  And now Iran has a serious footprint there and for sure things are more complicated than before....death by politics, it should be criminal.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 09:02 | 6182025 Chief KnocAHoma
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IF THE STUPID POLYANNA MOTHER FUCKER HADN'T PULLED OUR TROOPS OUT PREMATUTRELY WE WOULDN'T BE GOING THROUGH THIS EXERCISE! JESUS WE ARE GETTING THE GOVERNMENT WE DESERVE!

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 09:12 | 6182056 Chief KnocAHoma
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TOO BAD HIS DAD DIDN'T PULL OUT PREMATURELY!

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 09:17 | 6182071 ACP
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"Goodbye darlin', hello Samarrah..."

"I will not send American boys 9 or 10 thousand miles away from home to do what Iraqi boys should be doing for themselves."

-Barack Hussein Obama

(well, at least he might as well have said that)

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 13:15 | 6183024 Theosebes Goodfellow
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~"US Will Send 400 More Troops To Iraq Bringing Total To 3,500; Open New Military Base"~

What does "victory" look like in this scenario, Mr. President?

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 15:33 | 6183564 boogerbently
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????Wasn't he elected on the "Bring our young men and women home" platform ?

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:43 | 6181954 Normalcy Bias
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Read some of the tweets from the brain dead brown nosers for a quick laugh.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 09:08 | 6182042 sodbuster
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Same here- they are the "truly stupid"

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 09:37 | 6182086 freewolf7
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Wed, 06/10/2015 - 09:47 | 6182178 EhKnowKneeMass
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Wait... what? He is alive? I thought he was almost dead based on articles posted in the comments section of ZH.

http://www.eutimes.net/2015/06/us-secretary-of-state-kerry-reported-grav...
http://www.eutimes.net/2015/06/obama-made-secret-boston-visit-as-kerry-r...

WTF? EU Times should get the Novel Price for Journaljism.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:32 | 6181906 NoDebt
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Yes, actually.  He promised to "fundamentally transform" the United States, and he has.  I don't even recognize the place any more.  He also promised to crush the coal industry, and he has.  Those are the only two that I'm aware of.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:52 | 6181991 NoVa
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Student loan originations went from private lenders to Dept Education.

EPA rules over clean air

He also promised to improve race relations - 

2 out of 3 ain't bad.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 11:53 | 6182693 boogerbently
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Well, the transparency part.

We can plainly see what a moron he is.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:13 | 6181852 HonkyShogun
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Funfact:: Eisenhower originally warned of the Military Industrial Congressional Complex. I wonder why it was shortened.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:20 | 6181876 Quinvarius
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Who knows how long it was before he came to the version that included congress?  I am pretty sure the original probably had banking in it.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 09:43 | 6182154 Handful of Dust
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" No MIC left behind. "

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:15 | 6181858 philipat
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Their boots will not touch the ground. We left Iraq as a stable and independent Nation...............

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:21 | 6181880 Ghordius
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Mission Accomplished: Eternal War

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:29 | 6181900 philipat
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So why does The EU blindly follow this clown into war with Russia over Ukraine? And why does Holland obfuscate over the MH017 "Incident"? Why can't the EU strike a truly independent foreign policy?

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:36 | 6181922 Ghordius
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first, the current ceasefire, as fragile it is, was brokered by Germany and France, directly with Russia and Ukraine

second, Juncker just recently ventilated a different option to the NATO: "Juncker's Phantom Army", a EU-only "Fast Reaction Group"

so don't come over with this "blindly follow". the previous "clown" said "you are with us or against us", remember?

the EU as such has nearly nothing to do with all this, except the role of the ass, a "Fuck the EU" ass, according to Nuland

the UK, the Scandinavians, the Balts and Poland have a completely different idea of a foreign policy towards Russia as France, Germany and Italy

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:51 | 6181965 philipat
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First the "Present Ceasfire" has been deliberately broken by Kiev and the Neocons in The US directing them after The US coup in Ukraine. The sanctions on Russia have caused no harm to The US economy but have severely harmed the economies of EU Nations, all because of a pretence. So why does the EU go along with this, especially when war with Russia will destroy Europe but leave The US unscathed?

Second, I notice you did not respond regarding MH017 and the Dutch obfuscation regarding the report of the findings, totally unlike any other Air Accident Investigation?

Face it, The EU is a Vassal of The US, for reasons that I don't fully understand. But you might wish to illuminate?

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:53 | 6181999 Ghordius
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how am I supposed to even attempt to recap 70 years of diplomacy in one short comment? I don't know what the Dutch are obfuscating. Do you?

Vassalage is a concept that contains a "military alliance" part, particularly when on the defensive. Now, I ask you: is Russia... being all quiet and peaceful? Or is it "rattling the saber a bit"?

Russia is the 800-pound gorilla in the room next to NATO. Even if we would say Uncle Sam "goodbye, thanks", it would still be there, wouldn't it?

and again, note that we are deeply divided on how to even describe Russia's stance

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 09:08 | 6182040 philipat
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So you don't think that Russia has legitimate "Interests" in Crimea and Eastern Ukraine? I don't agree that Russia is The Big Gorilla which is actaully The US. I believe that Russia genuinly wishes to make peace with The EU and trade quietly. Russia had NO interest in re-colonising Eastern Europe (The Baltic States, Hungary, Poland, Czech Republic etc.). That is all just more scate tactics from the War Party.

The US Empire has self-destroyed and Europe needs to recognise that the future in to The East. Or not, at it's peril...

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 09:29 | 6182114 Ghordius
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eh, I heard Russians giving completely different noises about Russians outside of the Russian borders, particularly in regard to two of the Balts

we are talking here about two big gorillas an a bunch of small and medium-sized apes, here

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 09:36 | 6182135 philipat
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No, actually we are talking here about Common sense....

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 09:57 | 6182168 Ghordius
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where every and each european nation has a different view of what is common sense, regarding Russia

in short, here we all agree that both gorillas are thumping their chests

look, jokes besides, we do not like a lot about the situation

but your POV, up to now, was not terribly detailed, was it? the devil is in the detail, as often

take this thread, for example: the article is about Iraq. who was against the invasion of Iraq?

the same one european nation that since then is the butt of endless American jokes

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:57 | 6182010 philipat
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Juncker also, famously, said "When it gets difficult you have to lie". So much for Juncker.

And as for an "EU Army" you surely can't be serious can you? Do you understand the implications of your stupidity?

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 09:05 | 6182034 Ghordius
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so much for a guy that was reelected, afterwards. and what part of the threat of a EU-Army did you not understand?

tell me, what would the implications be, after you were somehow asking for a united european response to both Russia and the US?

I thought you were taunting a bit of "You are Vassals of the US"? That would be the opposite of that, wouldn't it?

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 09:10 | 6182051 philipat
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Excuse me  but WHO elected Juncker? The man who created a Tax Haven in his domain and now represents an EU that wishes to crackdown on such abuses? Clear as daylight?

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 09:24 | 6182096 philipat
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Sorry but it's time for Supper here in Bali so I will not be enjoying your heavenly company further tonight. You MUST be a diplomat because you are excellent at avoiding all the relevant questions.

As an Ambassador friend of mine once asked of me. "What is the difference betweem a Camel and a Diplomat"? Answer: A Camel can work for weeks without drinking......

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 09:26 | 6182104 Ghordius
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are you pulling my leg?

first: I don't even want an elected president of the commission. I want him appointed, which gives that post way less power and legitimacy

second: he was appointed by the Council. which is nothing else then every damn Prime Minister we have (in his case, with the exception of Cameron), i.e the govs of the EU countries

third: he was confirmed by the elected EU Parliament, together with his whole commission

it will be interesting, though, to see if that same parliament will follow up with him about the whole tax haven thing. we'll see

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 09:30 | 6182118 philipat
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Excuse me for reverting but, to quote you, "Juncker was REelected". I rest my case. Good night.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 09:49 | 6182151 philipat
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"I don't know what the Dutch are obfuscating. Do you?"

No, but I do have a pretty good idea based on the evidence available on the internet. Don't you ever use your "Common sense" or is propoganda an all-consuming agenda in "Diplomacy"?

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 09:55 | 6182201 Ghordius
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propaganda, specifically the study of propaganda throughout the ages, is a hobby of mine, yes

having said that... I am highly distrustful of anything on the internet. I prefer to base my opinions on things I witnessed myself, in person

so no, I do not know what the Dutch know or not. but I know in which "camp" they are regarding Russia, and it's the more skeptical one

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 09:47 | 6182177 Ghordius
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I was mentioning when he was reelected as MP in Parliament in Luxembourg

You misunderstood that for his appointment, later, at the EU Commission. good night

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 09:46 | 6182170 Chief KnocAHoma
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Sure... I get it.. the West is evil... Putin an angel... That's why all those eastern European nations run to Russia for alliance...

Oh wait... they aren't... they are running to the West. Why? Because no one knows you like your neighbor does, and Russia as a neighbor is like the white trash meth head that lets his Rotweiller shit in your yard then comes back at night to steal your kid's bike.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 11:41 | 6182628 farflungstar
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Don't forget these tiny Eastern European countries were part of the USSR for decades, but rather than be independent, they need "protection" as though Russia has been fucking with them non-stop since 1991. Eh whatever, everytime TPTB start the war propaganda, there's always those willing to buy it.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:20 | 6181862 XAU XAG
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Mission Accomplished

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzrJwzYBUkU

 

Exceptional

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:43 | 6181955 monkeyboy
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A new base?

 

Moar like a fucking franchise! One territory at a time.


Wed, 06/10/2015 - 12:23 | 6182820 Jumbotron
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** ALERT **

Watch out ZeroHedge commenters.  The DOJ could be coming for you.

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/the-government-wants-names-of-online-co...

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:08 | 6181842 timeless21
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Give him another Nobel Prize, please.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:12 | 6181849 VinceFostersGhost
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I've got a couple I'm not using.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:12 | 6181850 onewayticket2
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do UGG boots count as "boots on the ground"

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:09 | 6181843 Budnacho
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....drip....drip.....drip....drip

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:10 | 6181845 Infinite QE
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The zio tax on Americans continues. We need a solution. A final solution.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:11 | 6181848 New_Meat
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Gives a whole new meaning to "intramural firefight."

- Ned

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:15 | 6181861 Bioscale
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Mission accomplished II

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:22 | 6181870 VinceFostersGhost
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Infinity!

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:24 | 6181877 VinceFostersGhost
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Infinity!

 

Crap, it's the dreaded double post. I guess this really is infinity.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:17 | 6181866 Mr Kurtz
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Shitty schools, shitty roads and bridges but plenty o' money in the Empire's budget for continuing this, what is it now twelve years of this boondoggle called "Operation Iraq Freedom" with no end in sight?

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:49 | 6181980 Normalcy Bias
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Isn't it funny how whenever the govt names something, you get less of it?

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:18 | 6181869 Monetas
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We're on both sides of this war .... Sunni ISIS vs. Shia Iraq .... stir the Arab Spring pot .... I see two Nobel prizes .... for the best use of Dynamite .... and Drones !!

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:18 | 6181871 adr
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Wow, I didn't think pulling out of Iraq was going to turn out like, "If you like your insurance, you can keep your insurance."

Uh, yeah I did.

 

 

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:18 | 6181872 ebworthen
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QUAGMIRE.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:34 | 6181915 Quinvarius
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I don't think Obama has successfully resolved any of the problems he has created.  Everything he does sucks and just keeps dragging on.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 11:36 | 6182605 Son of Loki
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This is much worse then the Vietnam War which actually finally ended.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:21 | 6181881 Bill of Rights
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So many false promises, where's the left with thier effigies of Obama? Oh wait they're to stupid to notice.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:53 | 6181898 Normalcy Bias
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Speaking of their stupidity...

"And there was so much swag. Residents kept buttons and door hangers as keepsakes — even squares of toilet paper with Obama’s face on them."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/disappointment-in-obama-leads-some-blacks-to-ask-is-voting-even-worth-it/2015/06/09/5922363c-052b-11e5-bc72-f3e16bf50bb6_story.html

I think the TP idea is genius, but then I'm not exactly an Obama fan.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:23 | 6181884 Moe Howard
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Didn't he get the Nobel Peace Prize BEFORE the troops were pulled from Iraq? Please correct the story or correct me.

 

What good is "training" the Iraqi Army? Didn't we do that for almost 10 years? Seems it was a failure.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:34 | 6181918 two hoots
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Define training?  

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:23 | 6181885 Normalcy Bias
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I hate it for the troops. I can't imagine how badly it would suck to risk one's life on a daily basis for no good reason whatsoever.

Keep your heads down, come home safe, and rejoin the civilian world ASAP...

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 09:15 | 6182066 Fun Facts
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Fighting in the Rothschild's army.

The US is no longer a sovereign entity and all of these neocon/ziocon/ZWO wars have harmed the USA immeasurably, not to mention the 5 million dead arabs.

Maybe after another million the zio media will call it the new holocaust.

Probably not.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 09:21 | 6182095 Mike Honcho
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Last time I checked there hasn't been a draft in decades.  Volunteer to be fodder, then fodder you are.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 10:57 | 6182442 Meat Hammer
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Bravo, Mike!

Guess what? My sons will be smart enough to not kill or be killed for bankers and politicians.

Support the troops? Fuck the troops because they kill innocent people and think they're fighting for freedom. Dumb fucks.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:25 | 6181890 onewayticket2
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and liberals will blame bush.  they see zero connection with their premature actions to pull out of Iraq (in time for the Elections).  

i feel for the families of those who sacrificed to secure Ramadi and other areas....only to see the Commander in Chief literally give it back to ISIS

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:30 | 6181903 Ghordius
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well, I blame Bush for starting the Second Gulf War. I also blame him for all that followed that war. And I blame him for his "you are with us or against us"

and I blame him for his "Mission Accomplished", whatever that was. don't bring in the victims of one side only, in this. I feel for all the Iraquis, too. How many died, up to now?

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:37 | 6181933 onewayticket2
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that's fine.  you've been blaming him for a decade...we get it...

 

but how can you blame him for losing ramadi?

after generals warned against pulling out prematurely.  (but the pullout was done for the election....remember "GM is alive, al quaeda is dead!")

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:55 | 6182006 VinceFostersGhost
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Could it be a problem that Hillary also thought they had WMDs?

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:38 | 6181939 BeaverCream
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That's like blaming a marionette for a poor performance.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:51 | 6181987 IndianaJohn
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You look like the owner of Beaver Liquors in Beaver W. Virginia.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:28 | 6181897 JDFX
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Well, it's obvious what's needed. Boots on the ground, and thousands of them. And then likely a decade or 2, long presence of troops stationed across the middle east in a hope a stable government is formed.

 

It may as well be 1993 again.

 

 

 

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:37 | 6181934 Seek_Truth
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" Boots on the ground, and thousands of them."

You got that part right.

But it won't be like 1993 again.

Because those thousands will be facing millions, with no air and naval superiority.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:28 | 6181899 _SILENCER
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US electrical grid and roads are in the shitter, unemployment is in the stratosphere, but there's plenty of money for this shit to to keep the Elite rolling in Bloodbucks while sending our alpha males off to do their dirty work.

Peace Prize indeed.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:47 | 6181967 IndianaJohn
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Alpha males do not obey orders, nor do they choose a subordinates' role   But women like the violent men and those who hold power. Girly boys are in the lowest tier and the armed forces are full of them. No wonder we lost the war.

Where are the Pussy Riot girls of Russia when we need them?

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 09:54 | 6182197 U-P-G-R-A-Y-E-D-D
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You didn't get the memo that PR is a Soros funded psy-op against Putin?

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 09:56 | 6182205 HowdyDoody
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Pussy Riot are bought-and-paid-for CIA stooges, currently on the well-funded 'Teh Russia is Evul' talk circuit.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:30 | 6181904 anachronism
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Somewhere within this force of 3,400 is going to be a special operations battalion of 300-500 men. (maybe some women too?). These guys (gals?) are sanctioned to kill with impunity (kinda like cops in the homeland); and there will be plenty more of that. But they might actually do something that military men are expected to do: engage and defeat an armed and trained opposing force in open battle. S-o-o-o outdated and out-moded!

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:31 | 6181907 TeethVillage88s
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False Flag, False Flag, False Flag.

- Opening a new Base is a great opportunity for a Benghazi type event

- Dick Cheney, John Bolton, Victoria Nuland, Don Rumsfeld, Lindsey Graham, John McCain, the NeoCONs, and future Presidents all want to send the Military Back to the ME.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 09:00 | 6182016 2muchtax
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I think you're stuck in the matrix. The Dem are "in charge" now.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 09:17 | 6182073 TeethVillage88s
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What you smokin' Willis?

It's all the same party. LBJ didn't believe in War in foreign lands against people that can't ever strike the USA with Navy, Air Force, or Missiles.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:33 | 6181914 SheepDog-One
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Where's all the anti war protesters? I guess they've been turned into Free Shit Army folks?

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:46 | 6181970 BeaverCream
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Honestly I think they've been horribly demoralized by the fact that Obama didn't bring any hope or change.  You must understand these people are zealots but they're also sheep, they need a leader they can cling to, they need a good guy.  They've realized there isn't a good guy and are demoralized into apathy....it is probably a good thing, it's opening up the eyes of a lot of sheep.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 09:51 | 6182188 U-P-G-R-A-Y-E-D-D
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Sd1 - Not Free Shit Army, but Free Syrian Army.  IF you look at the so called "Left", especially among the "academics" and "intellectuals", they didn't buy the propaganda of the Iraq war, but following the smoke and mirrors light show put on by the media (thank you to the US, Israel, and KSA) they were convinced of people "freeing themselves" in the "revolutions".  So instead of the US freeing them, they have backed, full force, covert US funded terrorist forces and paid for media lies to bring "freedom".  They will probably be successful and win their war against Assad - all of the moron leftists will cheer.  Another Arab Spring victory.  

They are traitors who should be rounded up along with the bush war Neo-Cons and Obama war dems.  

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:36 | 6181924 BlueHen1990
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This is the definition of "mission creep". We are continuing to hear mixed messages from the government, constantly overemphasizing then underemphasizing then back to overemphasizing the threat of ISIS. They continue to say "we aren't the Bush administration" yet keep slowly sending troops over there. This is precisely how Vietnam started, and also even Iraq when Bill Clinton slowly escalated the tension. I mean at this point it'd be refreshing to just hear Obama come out and say what we all know he is thinking, "listen I am going to send a ton of troops in that area so that our friends in the region feel safe". Just do us all a freakin' favor and come out with it already, enough of this "peace card" BS that you pretend to represent.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:37 | 6181932 NoDecaf
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Assad needs Chinese and Russian paratroopers.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 09:42 | 6182150 SmedleyButlersGhost
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No no no.Assad is fighting ISIS - so he needs US Troops....no wait...but Isn't that......shit.....oh forget it

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:39 | 6181940 Quinvarius
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How about you put a 10,000 man base in the center of ISIS territory?  Seems like that might be how you start to win this, or maybe look like you are trying.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 09:02 | 6182028 SmedleyButlersGhost
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Done- called LANGLEY

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 09:14 | 6182065 TeethVillage88s
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You guys need some more coffee.

You never want to centralize any thing. Too much Risk.

Obviously you have to secure a port, a maintenance operation, a training area to test weapons and new equipment.

But you still don't want to put all of your men and best equipment in one place.

You wouldn't even do that with databases and backups.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 10:00 | 6182222 HowdyDoody
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No, simply cut off ISIS supply lines from NATO and Gulf State countries. Oooops, now I see the problem.

http://landdestroyer.blogspot.co.uk/2015/06/logistics-101-where-does-isi...

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 12:43 | 6182904 TeethVillage88s
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I was just thinking WMD against our big centralized base being a one stop drop.

But yeah inviting ISIS into our camp, training them, and handing off equipment directly to them, so that they can attack us later... kind of Full Retard Stupid.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:41 | 6181945 cn13
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I remember not too long ago our fearless leader promising the U.S. people that there would be "no U.S. boots on the ground" in Iraq.

Obama is the most brazen liar I have ever seen in my life.

The fact that he is president of the U.S. makes me sick to my stomach.

How anyone believes anything Obama says is beyond my realm of thinking.

Sad days for Amerika.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:43 | 6181956 overmedicatedun...
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If we do not fight the barbarians in gaul, the empire is at risk."  in 52 BC, in which a complete Roman victory resulted in the expansion of the Roman Republic over the whole of Gaul (mainly present day France and Belgium." all hail Ceasar er obumer..

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:48 | 6181975 franciscopendergrass
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Krugman will be proud.  Build bases in 2000's.  Abandon bases.  Build new bases in 2015.  

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 12:38 | 6182889 TeethVillage88s
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But you don't get much velocity from Defense Spending and even less when you destroy the equipment, facilities, and troops you trained.

Spending the Money overseas is Economic Leakage to some degree also.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:49 | 6181981 nakki
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Thank god the US is running a budget surplus to cover the cost of this. 

  1. NEW YORK The U.S. war in Iraq has cost $1.7 trillion with an additional$490 billion in benefits owed to war veterans, expenses that could grow to more than $6 trillion over the next four decades counting interest, a study released on Thursday said.Mar 14, 2013

"Five days or five weeks or five months, but it certainly isn't going to last any longer than that," he said. "It won't be a World War III." Don Rumsfeld

"Missed it by that much" Maxwell Smart

Obviously 10 years wasn't long enough to train Iraq  soldiers. 

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 09:29 | 6182111 Ban KKiller
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"Mission Accomplished"......war profiteers slogan. 

Bush=Obama=fucking war profiteers. 

War is Peace. Ignorance is Strength. Oligarchy/Plutocracy 2016!

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 12:36 | 6182879 TeethVillage88s
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As I understand it the Iraqi Was was going to cost $300 Billion according to Don Rumsfeld during the run up to the War.

Today the 400 Additional Troops placed in Iraq will cost $300 Billion dollars in Operational Funding. Inflation is very sever in the Defense Industries.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 12:54 | 6182946 farflungstar
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oh, but such a small price to pay for "securing the realm" as some assholes would put it, for our bestest friend in the Middle East, who loves us and supports their greatest ally no matter what and would NEVER stab us in the back, or even have the temerity to accuse US of stabbing THEM in the back. Never ever. 

As long as they keep getting their money, their diplomatic cover, their water and energy from formerly recalcitrant Arab states, they could give a fuck less about our bills, our long-term injured, or anything else that goes on inside AmeriKa, as long as there is goy suffering, they are happy. 

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:52 | 6181995 disabledvet
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I'm still trying to figure out where McRetard's Navy fits into all this.

What's going on in Nepal again?

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:52 | 6181997 Billy Sol Estes
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New Bull Piss Prize

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:53 | 6181998 2muchtax
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The first freedumb injection didn't take, a second will definitely do the trick

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 09:19 | 6182083 cart00ner
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Man that fucks with our aussie poleticians here... None of us give a shit when we are supposed to be scared shittless of TERRORISM?

WTF? like you guys, we are more likely to die of the clap than a freeekin' bomb (Ooooh, big boogie-man) Fuck MSM!

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 09:08 | 6182043 farflungstar
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Poor Iraq they must love the shit out of us by now.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 09:18 | 6182079 Mike Honcho
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The US gov refers to them as an ally, so yes.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 09:16 | 6182064 localizer
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Oh, great, just in time for ISIS to take out Assad and then the "victors" will come in with a "cleanup and reconstruction" effort... Syria needs not look too far what awaits, after all Iraq and Libya are exemplary democracies after the US/NATO involvement.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 09:21 | 6182091 nah
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The Chinese dont care about Iraq

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lets build sandcastles in the persian Gulf to protect our interests

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 09:22 | 6182098 VW Nerd
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I suspect this is all a ploy to gain control of Syria.  With "ISIS" now deeply entreanched in Syria, I'm curious what the response would be if Assad asked Putin to set up "bases" and send "advisors" inside Syria?  Same as what our cover strategy is inside Iraq.  Considering the strategic importance of Syria, I am certain this is on the mind of the Russian leadership.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 10:03 | 6182234 Dixie Flatline
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This makes me hate the media complex so much more than I already did.  Shakespeare said we start with the lawyers.  Dixie says let's start with the media.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 10:04 | 6182235 YMHC
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Off topic

I just wish the US never entered WWII, Europe would be like paradise by now. Okay, still fascist but a lot less of certain kinds of people. Now there are boatloads of muzzies invading daily.

Where is Vlad Tepes when you need him?

 

Ok carry on displacing people.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 10:09 | 6182249 rejected
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"A base which puts not only Syria, but Damascus within easy reach once the Assad regime is overthrown,"

Anyone bother to send Vlad a memo on this? ,,,  I thought not.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 10:45 | 6182404 NevadaMirage
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I can't figure out why they tried to make this sound like a staging point for staging against Damascus. Al Asad is about 100 miles closer to Syria, is already occupied by US "trainers", and makes TQ look like a municipal airport.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 10:41 | 6182385 Sages wife
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Why is there even a discussion on this matter? America has no right to be there in the first place. They should never have invaded, never built military bases, never assumed control/ownership of this sovereign nation and it's natural resources. They are invaders, insurgents, enemy occupiers. They have murdered 1,000,000+ innocent civilians of this independent sovereign nation. Western humanity is complicit; we pretend not to see; busy ourselves with hollywood and our devices. Shame on all of us.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 11:11 | 6182480 gcjohns1971
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While many pretend otherwise, there are more than two great powers in the world.

There are legacy Powers such as Russia and the US.

There are emerging would-be Powers, such as the so-called 'Islamicists' ...which are really just a revival of Pan Arabism (because they don't get along with Iran).

And there are re-emerging Powers...like Europe is trying to be by organizing themselves more formally under the EU.

And then there is China...which pretends to be once again part of the China-Russia Axis.   But such alignments proved in the past to be matters of convenience.  And they are matters of convenience today.   China isn't really in any Axis.  China will do what is in China's interest. 

China is also a Power all on her own.

ISIS is an issue because they were a pawn in a proxy-war for legacy powers, who have become a power player for an emerging would-be Power.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 11:22 | 6182532 Rikeska
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Iron Maiden

2 minutes to Midnight

Nothing more to say.

 

Kill for gain or shoot to maim, but we don't need a reason 
The Golden Goose is on the loose and never out of season
Blackened pride still burns inside this shell of bloody treason
Here's my gun for a barrel of fun for the love of living death 

The killer's breed or the demon's seed
The glamor, the fortune, the pain
Go to war again, blood is freedom's stain
But don't you pray for my soul anymore 
2 minutes to midnight, the hands that threaten doom
2 minutes to midnight, to kill the unborn in the womb 

The blind men shout let the creatures out, we'll show the unbelievers
The napalm screams of human flames, of a prime time Belsen feast
As the reasons for the carnage cut their meat and lick the gravy
We oil the jaws of the war machine and feed it with our babies 

The killer's breed or the demon's seed
The glamor, the fortune, the pain
Go to war again, blood is freedom's stain
But don't you pray for my soul anymore 
2 minutes to midnight, the hands that threaten doom
2 minutes to midnight, to kill the unborn in the womb 

The body bags and little rags of children torn in two
And the jellied brains of those who remain to put the finger right on you
As the madmen play on words and make us all dance to their song
To the tune of starving millions, to make a better kind of gun 

The killer's breed or the demon's seed
The glamor, the fortune, the pain
Go to war again, blood is freedom's stain
But don't you pray for my soul anymore 
2 minutes to midnight, the hands that threaten doom
2 minutes to midnight, to kill the unborn in the womb 

Midnight, midnight, it's all night
Midnight, midnight, all night!

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 12:32 | 6182859 TeethVillage88s
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I was thinking 1 Minute to Midnight would be a good name for:

- US Congressional Reform Legislation
- Or a New US Political Party

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 11:23 | 6182539 roadhazard
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400 more troops (trainers) = Obamas surge. He just ain't into it folks. Don't worry, you will have your full on war right after Jan. 20th, 2017.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 11:26 | 6182559 I Write Code
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So, like, we're sending over the Fife and Drum Corps, and barefoot?  That'll work.

Wed, 06/10/2015 - 12:30 | 6182852 TeethVillage88s
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Our Troops will be fulfilling their Destiny.

http://www.macquirelatory.com/Birth%20Certificate%20Truth.htm

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