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Murder Rates Soar In Baltimore As Dejected Police Look The Other Way
Over the past several months, two competing theories have emerged regarding what effect a year of deteriorating race relations has had on law enforcement’s approach to policing America’s cities.
One theory, dubbed the “Ferguson effect”, suggests that police are now less engaged because they fear public scrutiny, prosecution, and, in the worst case scenario, being blamed for inciting the type of social upheaval that led to the riots which left parts of Baltimore in ashes less than two months ago.
A second theory says that if anything, police have become more aggressive, especially as it relates to the use of lethal force. A Washington Post investigation found that police are killing suspects at twice the previous rate in 2015 and The Guardian has now embarked on an ambitious, crowdsourced effort to put a face and a name to every person killed by police in America over the course of this year.
Assessing which theory is correct is difficult, although we would be remiss if we didn’t mention that the so-called ‘Ferguson effect’ relies on anecdotal evidence while the idea that police are killing more people than ever before is simply a matter of statistics. Having said that, The New York Times is out with a new piece which appears to support the notion that, at least in Baltimore, police are scaling back patrols and avoiding high crime areas. Here’s more:
A month and a half after six officers were charged in Mr. Gray’s death, policing has dwindled in some of Baltimore’s most dangerous neighborhoods, and murders have risen to levels not seen in four decades. The totals include a 29-year-old man fatally shot on this drug corner last month. Police union officials say that officers are still coming to work, but that some feel a newfound reluctance and are stepping back, questioning whether they will be prosecuted for actions they take on the job..
At least 55 people, the highest pace since the early 1970s, have been murdered in Baltimore since May 1, when the state’s attorney for the city, Marilyn J. Mosby, announced the criminal charges against the officers. Victims of shootings have included people involved in criminal activity and young children who were simply in the wrong place..
At the time of her announcement, Ms. Mosby’s charges were seen as calming the city. But they enraged the police rank and file, who pulled back. The number of arrests plunged, and the murder rate doubled. The reduced police presence gave criminals space to operate, according to community leaders and some law enforcement officials.
The soaring violence has made Baltimore a battleground for political arguments about whether a backlash against police tactics has led to more killings in big cities like New York, St. Louis and Chicago, and whether “de-policing,” as academics call it, can cause crime to rise..
Still, the speed and severity of the police pullback here appear unlike anything that has happened in other major cities. And rather than a clear test case, Baltimore is a reminder of how complicated policing issues are and how hard it can be to draw solid conclusions from a month or two of crime and police response.
The Times does go on to note that, at least in the case of Baltimore, it's difficult to determine whether the dramatic increase in violence is attributable to less policing or stems from the fact that thanks to the looting that took place during the riots, there are now nearly 160,000 doses of perscription opiates available for sale on the street which could very well be contributing to a spike in violent crime.
For example, police commanders here attribute the spike in violence in large part to a unique factor: a flood of black-market opiates stolen from 27 pharmacies during looting in April, enough for 175,000 doses now illegally available for sale.
They say drug gangs are now oversupplied with inventory from the looting, resulting in a violent battle for market share from a finite base of potential customers. Gangs sell a single OxyContin dose for $30, twice what they get for a dose of heroin, said Gary Tuggle, a former Baltimore police officer who was the head of the city’s Drug Enforcement Administration office until this month.
For better or worse, one is certainly inclined to believe that law enforcement in America has entered a new era in which every traffic stop, arrest, and detention will be scrutinized and picked apart for evidence of racial profiling, excessive force, or any other perceived betrayal of the public trust.
What that means for public safety remains to be seen. If advocates of the 'Ferguson effect' are correct, crime rates could rise as police disengage and scale back their disretionary use of force. On the other hand, some suggest that hightened scrutiny will save innocent lives, increase accountability, and ultimately lead to better policing which will not only decrease crime rates, but help to establish trust between authorities and the public.
In the final analysis, it could be that the entire debate misses the point. As long as the social conditions that plague high crime communities are not addressed, no amount of 'good' or 'bad' policing can save the country.
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Figures the cunts would punish the innocent. Fuck the police in Baltimore and anywhere also the bitches whine and snivel and kill.
A perfect excuse to send in the troops.
They've been content to actively and passively watch the urban areas burn over the last 40 years without doing that again in most places. Let the larger populace stand back and divide themselves while business as usual rolls on where it really counts.
Mayor Marx-McLefty: These Gentle Giants simply need more space to murder and cause mayhem.
Thank you, Obozo & Holder and all those you've emboldened.
Looks like a nigger-hatin parade of increasingly common brilliance here. Congrats, boyz.
What the fuck? Isn't this what ZH wanted?
I'm seriously confused.
They helped the MSM with all these nigger sob stories and now they complain when the cops let em run wild?
Can't have it both ways I'm afraid...
ATTENTION CITIZEN SUBJECTS OF BALTIMORE:
THIS IS A MESSAGE FROM YOUR ENFORCERS, THE BALTIMORE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AS LONG AS WE CANNOT ENFORCE YOUR COMPLIANCE BY HARRASSING YOU, LOBBING RACIAL EPITHETS AT YOU, FORCEFULLY DETAINING YOU WITHOUT PROBABLE CAUSE, AND BEATING YOU ON A WHIM WITH IMPUNITY, THEN YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN.
THIS IS NOT CHUMBAWAMBA.
The solution is for the citizens to form a perfect militia.
Tag, you're it.
http://rt.com/usa/266710-miami-shot-homeless-park/
It's a fascinating study in zoology watching the jungle reclaim itself when the threat of law enforcement is removed.
A very good case study is evinced by this short documentary of South Africa:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sifETGOKS18
White cops displaced by unqualified black leaders after the end of Apartheid, leaving Johannesburg to implode. Now they work private security, which in many cases have the same authority as the police.
Call the Anti-Police: Ending the State's "Security" Monopoly
|"How would things be different,” muses Dale Brown of the Detroit-based Threat Management Center, “if police officers were given financial rewards and commendations for resolving dangerous situations peacefully, rather than for using force in situations where it’s neither justified nor effective?”Brown’s approach to public safety is “precisely the opposite of what police are trained and expected to do,” says the 44-year-old entrepreneur. The TMC eschews the “prosecutorial philosophy of applied violence” and the officer safety uber alles mindset that characterize government law enforcement agencies. This is because his very successful private security company has an entirely different mission – the protection of persons and property, rather than enforcing the will of the political class. Those contrasting approaches are displayed to great advantage in proto-dystopian Detroit.
“We’ve been hired by three of the most upscale neighborhoods in Detroit to provide 24/7 security services,” Brown proudly informed me during a telephone interview. “People who are well-off are very willing to pay for Lamborghini-quality security services, which means that our profit margin allows us to provide free services to people who are poor, threatened, and desperate for the kind of help the police won’t provide.”
“Unlike the police, we don’t respond after a crime has been committed to conduct an investigation and – some of the time, at least – arrest a suspect,” Brown elaborates. “Our approach is based on deterrence and prevention. Where prevention fails, our personnel are trained in a variety of skills – both psychological and physical – to dominate aggressors without killing them.”
http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2014/09/call-anti-police-ending-sta...
looks like civilized society is the only winner in this predicable outcome. death to animals, support your local police.
It's not like supporting the police is optional. I'm forced to support my local police. If I don't then they'll drag me away to prison and if I resist they'll beat or shoot me. Free individuals select the security services of their choice. We are not free and I see no reason to celebrate that servitude as you do.
well said. almost......poetic
IF YALL COULD STOP DAISY CHAINING THE FIRST COMMENT SO THAT PHONES CAN SEE THE COMMENTS, THAT WOULD BE JUST GREAT!!!!
in columbia, there is something called pequito trabajo, which is "a little work" and cops assigned to a little work for their shift are to go out and kill druggies or other criminals. I have long suspected city police of some cities of shooting at night to keep up gang warfare as well as just to eliminate a pest.
Fuck Baltimore.
The sad part is not, in my opinion, the porch monkeys shooting themselves. They are vile and not worth another thought.
The sad part is all the other people who have to live with those fucking porch monkeys and who are not strong enough to live any kind of decent life without the police to provide a certain level of law enforcement.
They may be few, but they are certainly there and they need protection. Old women. Young children. The occasional genetic throwback who can actually read and *gasp* think.
That race baiting fuckwits like Sharpton and Jackson and the rest make money while ensuring these weakest citizens are condemed to a life of misery in these hell holes is an affront to all right thinking Americans.
Too bad there only seem to be about 300 of those left.
If you cant be bothered to crawl onto a bus and ride away from 'da ghettoe', I really dont have much sympathy. Everyone who has spent 5 years living knows blacks are feral savages who will both leech off any welfare system as well as degrade the state of civilization they are it . . . right down to cannibalism, spear-chucking, mass rape, and drug-stravaganzas. It is .gov that has promoted this myth of unnatural multiculturalism and 'diversity'. Then the state uses the feral savagery of the blacks and browns to justify a police state AND gun-grabbing. Then when the people say 'Wait a minute, we dont like tyranny, .gov let the chimps run wild in an effort to scare the people into submission.
I say FUCK THAT. Let's put together a posse, roll into Baltimore, and mop the streets with the blood of the savages. Nuck if you buck . . . indeed.
I am not really one to hunt actual live wilderness type animals. My brothers do a lot more of that natural hunting than I ever did. I didn't really see the point of killing something I didn't need to eat.
But if you want to narrow the hunt to just the niggers, thugs, gangsters, banksters, unions, academia and the criminal syndicates both private and government sponsored, I am, most assuredly, your huckleberry. Let's saddle up and shoot every last one of those mother fuckers right in the back of the head. We can plant them all head first in the plains of Kansas with a tree shoved up their ass to reforest the midwest.
Then the rest of you all, the decent people, whatever your religion or lack thereof, skin color or sexual preference can live in peace with each other as God intended.
Hell you might even find one day you actually enjoy the diversity. Stranger things have happened.
What's funny is there never really used to be a "threat of law enforcement" and shit ran fine. Citizens used to police themselves, if you were getting out of line, somebody would rap your knuckles and tell you to sober up. Our culture has become such a shithole and we have been dumbed down to subservient sheep that only cops are allowed to intervene when someone is beating their wife, mouthing off to a bartender, pissing in the street, etc. Otherwise you face a lawsuit or some bullshit, maybe even jail time.
Baltimore cops refuse to do their jobs if they can't beat and kill at will but they still take their paychecks.
"it's difficult to determine whether the dramatic increase in violence is attributable to less policing or stems from the fact that there are now nearly 160,000 doses of perscription opiates on the street"
Hmmm...
Truculent cops or dopes on downers....Whichever could it be?
Or statistics. I read some indepth article about Baltimore policing and the gist of it was that the political need to create a crime busting/ policing miracle was met by tweaking the stats, in an NFP kind of way. With the new narrative, the NYT can scare the sheeples with what they say happens when their overlords and minders pull back.
Time to roll in a posse that will drain that swamp. Tickets to Liberia . . . or toe-tags. Pick.
Chumbadumba should become a cop and show us how proper police work should be done.
Police work use to take all day of walking talking and learning, not a gun and an attitude.
Get out of the cars and walk, talk and learn.
Even in the wild west, cops rarely shot anyone. Even in the ruffiest towns.
How does that work with thug-life blacks? Their entire existence is dedicated to criminal behavior, getting "respect", and sticking it to "the man". How do you control such individuals without using violence, which is the only thing feral blacks understand and respect?
Where are the black leaders who will tell their people to respect others, act civilized and learn a job skill? I see sharpton and jackson using race to make money for themselves, but that's about it.
Right now, schools should stop teaching anything other than social skills in grades 1-5. Once the kids learn to sit and behave, MAYBE they can learn to read and write. Chimp behavior has to stop.
Murder rates soar in Baltimore as Africans can't control themselves.
Fixed the headline. I agree with you entirely, no pathology is ever the Negroes' fault. Never their responsibility. If negroes are shooting Negroes, it's the guns fault. If negroes are dropping out of school, it's the school's fault. If a negro can't tie his shoes, it's the legacy of slavery.
The answer why is obvious. Whitey has money. If we can make our dysfunctional, Stone-Age level of society Whitey's responsibility, we can get free shit.
White people are tired of being blamed for Negro Failure. They are not just like us. Their failure is not our fault. The narrative is collapsing.
Diversity's rainbow wont be realized until you give up your guns. Can't we all just get along?
Yeah that wus probably lives in Greenwich. If there is any justice he'll be a "knock out" victim of the poor thugs misunderstood by society.
+1 Clever!
they call it a self cleaning oven... we should provide all the ammo and condoms they need
So you haven't noticed that that is exactly what "we" have been doing since the 1960s? The government has transformed inner cities with guns and unprincipled living via the drug war and the war on traditional morality.
You are also an intended victim and likely stupid enough to get what you deserve. "We" would be foolish to let you pull us down with you.
The main ingredient was, first and foremost, the War on Poverty. It incentivized sloth, dependence, single mother parenting, and such. The war on drugs came later and did provide a lucrative but dangerous entrepeneurship opportunity for many fatherless sociopaths. But the demand for addictive drugs is human nature. As Locke explained we must not permit people to alienate themselves from liberty, which is what drugs like heroin do. Free men have a moral duty to prevent that, and punish purveyors of such poison.
Free men have a duty to make sure that no individual is free to make personal mistakes? You should write speeches for Hillary.
The preceding bit of your comment was largely reasonable.
Funny thing is, are the blacks even complaining about the higher crime? Seems like all this reporting about increased crime is coming from the same MSMers who blew this story up in the first place.
The media's job is to manipulate thought along the lines of 1984 in which everything and its opposite can be true at the same time as long as the net effect is service to the state. It only seems "funny" if you're smart enough to note the discrepancies but haven't yet realized that the TV exists to bring the masses into compliance.
The race baiters bring these media promoted memes to life in the real world. For those individuals who enjoys stories like this because it's a great venue to bash niggers, the media and the government thank you for your blind support. I would make the same admonition to black racists as well.
Whom does it serve if all the black folks decide that the whites are out to kill them so they decide to kill all the whites who seek to protect themselves by killing all the blacks? I see no benefit in such a trend to me, my family or my friend and neighbors. Do any of you?
We cut some budgets & we're wanting to take everyone's guns anyway....
You don't ever hear about the pigs revolting down at the slaughterhouse either. The MSM created this urban 'utopia'. Now, they're bemoaning their Frankenstein monster.
All this cop shaming is part of the playbook. The J takeover of america is carried out through liberal policies enacted in selected states and it includes destroying the image of the white police officer. The media is fully complicit. With cops psyche all fucked up, more upheaval, crime and disunity will result. It is part of the grand plan to destroy america from the inside out, and we are seeing a systematic roll out of it. Weep for your country, for the tipping point has past and it is no more.
It's all about justice. Police should protect people, not fucking blow their heads off if something not right or protect banksters and corporations.
Police is not ready to do their fucking job.
Ofc it's easy just to kill people to save COPs lifes, not citizens lifes.
Do you get my point?
"Dirty Harry" was a popular character for the very good reason that namby pamby policing, judicial, and sentencing policies of the time shocked people at the time. Perpetrators not= Victims. Perpetrators are perpetrators. Fuck em.
Take your point and shove it up your ass, if it isn't already glued to the top of your bald fucking knob and hence there already. This is the still (*cough* somewhat *cough*) the land of the free mother fucker.
If you want the cops to keep your skinny ass chickenshit knobly kneed broken down limp dick safe, move to England with the rest of the pussies.
No, Bob. The progressives are reaping what they sowed and it is deliciously ironic for some of us.
Sure, work in some excorciating and deep, courageously honest condemnation of the kikes and the satisfaction would reach the sublime. Some threads on ZH have become throbbing sewers over time and the site a magnet for those so inspired.
After all--sob, sob--they got nowhere else to go. Nowhere!
It's all so unfair.
Sad shit indeed.
What the fuck are you trying to say?
Do you really care?
Actially, I do. He clearly speaks english and yet I can't understand a fucking thing he says. It is surreal. And worth an upvote.
<<< COPS GONE INTO HIDING PROTECTING ONLY MAJOR BANKS AND SHOPPING MALLS
<<< COPS STILL BEATING HEADS AND FACTORY CAGING..
No, Bob. The progressives are reaping what they sowed and it is deliciously ironic for some of us.
Many ZHers reject the false dichotomy of right v. left in general but still fall for it hard in matters of race. Enjoying the destruction of your nation's culture and values because you see it as a red/blue batle in which progressives have suffered a defeat is stupidly self destructive. We are involved in a war made by an elite class upon everybody else on Earth whom they get to fight against each other in order to cement their own power.
You should know better.
I think most of us see it, what he's saying is most progs don't. Still don't. And by God I for one am going to drive it home until all of them do.
Bloomberg, Soros, Hillary!, Feinstein etal are interchangable with Jeb, McConnell, Adelson and Boehner.
All of them would slit our throats for a buck and have already done so in the past, the difference is SOME OF US DON'T GIVE SECOND CHANCES with them waving knives around.
Progressives always do, they're fucking weak minded fools, trading this for that with the expectation that a persons ethical character will somehow change given enough time and scolding "to get their minds right".
Fuck that shit, stab me in the back once and don't finish me off and I'll be coming back.
As nmewn walks right into the pit in front of him that Billy is warning you not to fall into. Brilliant as usual. But thanks for the entertaining slapstick.
Actually, I've been waiting for you, you controlled opposition fuckstick.
NOW you will regale the board with your findings of me saying anything deragatory of Snowden like you claimed I did.
In case your mind is so dull you cannot comprehend what I'm saying...I'm calling you a fucking liar and untrustworthy right out here in the open.
"I think most of us see it, what he's saying is most progs don't. Still don't. And by God I for one am going to drive it home until all of them"
That is exactly the course of action which the elite class set for you. Instead of using your time and energy in a productive manner you waste your energies trying to grind the cartoonish face of some formless enemy into the ground. It's the kind of thing that can be very satisfying while you remain under the delusions created by the government and media.
So many folks still fall for this crap. The media pontificates on white privilege and racism precisely because the elites want more whites to hate blacks and for those who already hate blacks to become violent. The elites promote the corresponding themes to blacks as well. And while the blacks fight the whites and the Christians fight the Muslims and the gays fight the straights...who benefits?
Can't you put your time to better use than promoting the very themes which your masters use to control you? Think about it. If you were in the middle of highway with a steamroller bearing down on you and your family and you only had enough time to either pull your family to safety or to pull Al Sharpton under the wheeels with you, what would you do?
I know WTF they're doing Billy and I also know what "conscious being" is trying to do to me in particular and I want his ass as a trophy on my wall.
So kindly step aside...
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Because I know that ain't your down, I'll assume its the coward "conscious being" and his "clan" lurking, afraid to back anything up like the detestable slugs they are.
We've known each other long enough that neither would call the other a troll but in this matter you are fulfilling the mission of a troll: to disrupt conversation by changing the subject to something personal and inflammatory.
When your desire to stomp a progressive overrides any desire you might have to expose the trickery of the elites you do not serve your own interests. I'm trying to toss you the lifeline of reason. Why not take it?
This is personal Billy, between me & him.
Are you taking up "conscious being's" flag that he left laying on the field? This part of the thread can be skipped over by you or any other "uninterested" party.
Your choice, this is Fight Club, no one (especially a fucking coward like "conscious being") challenges what I said about Snowden and what I stand for from the very first time I appeared here and gets away with it.
He's a liar, a provocateur and a coward for letting YOU fight his battles.
Again...stand aside, for the last time.
You step into a match between Team Depends and me and then you try to use the ring for your own spatt with CB? It's simply bad form.
There was no match, TD never responded to you, I was telling you what I thought TD was conveying when he was talking to wee weed up and you responded to TD.
The coward (in his zest to denigrate me) jumped.
Now who is distracting?
But I see he's made another appearence below...WITHOUT ANSWERING MY CHALLENGE to his assertion that he accused me of belittling Snowden or I believed or said Snowden is CIA, well lets try the coward again...below...
My money is on nmewn. Conscious can suck it.
Let's see, money and sexual perversion. I think you just exposed yourself. Why don't you go the whole nine yards and explain to us how nmewn is correct in his embrace of the official 9/11 story and Bldg.#7 in particular. Being known by the company you keep, you can make fool of yourself too. Should be entertaining. Can't wait. Thanks in advance.
9/11 was totally an inside job. Building #7 in particular. As for proof, let me pull out the big guns.
You can mock me all you like and there will be no consequences apart from the shame of kicking a really fat three legged dog with no teeth, chronic hallitosis and penchant to pee on the rug.
But Mock Stuart McKensie and the Scottsih Mafia will be all over your sorry liberal puke ass like ducks on june bugs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPMS6tGOACo
Need more? Well I am glad you asked:
People like you think we really landed on the moon. We didn't.
http://listverse.com/2012/12/28/10-reasons-the-moon-landings-could-be-a-...
People like you think there is no alien hive mind living below the Denver International Airport and feeding on straggling passengers, but there is:
http://mentalfloss.com/article/61740/5-weird-conspiracy-theories-surroun...
People like you don't think Obama is controlling the weather patterns over Russia to starve Vladimir Putin and bring him to the bargaining table. You are clearly of infantile intellect.
http://mrconservative.com/2013/07/21746-obama-cia-spending-630000-on-tes...
You probably think your mind is free from alien influence, but it is not:
http://www.epictimes.com/2014/12/three-ways-cats-control-our-minds/
If you take these four additional arguments in paralell, you can clearly see that nmewn has the upper hand in this debate and the best you can do it to fall back on pointless ad hominem attacks that are not directly related to the main argument.
I would feel shame for you if you were only a little less repellent.
You did hate Snowden nmewn and you do profess to believe the official line on Bldg.#7, which taken together leaves you looking like comedic garbage, but carry on. There is the entertainment value.
"and you do profess to believe the official line on Bldg.#7, which taken together leaves you looking like comedic garbage, but carry on. There is the entertainment value."
Why don't YOU in PLAIN ENGLISH tell me exactly who blew up Building 7 and how. Don't send me to some hour long bullshit video, don't tell me to "do my own research", tell me in plain fucking English who blew the building up and how.
It's a simple question. Can you answer it?
"You did hate Snowden nmewn..."
Now all you have to do is provide proof of your claim.
Everyone here knows I was one of the first on ZH to defend him and his actions causing personal harm to himself as it makes no sense for him to be against a police state, while in the EMPLOY OF AND IN SERVICE TO a police state, so he had to be the real deal.
YOU ARE A FUCKING LIAR...and exposed.
So you "exposed" an anonymous poster while derailing a conversation about the media's true intent in promoting racial "justice." What a waste of time. You can bet that the elite class didn't lose any time in solidifying their position while you were distracted with meaningless crap. Falling for such distractions may get you killed in the days ahead. Better frosty than stupid.
So you think I've done some great "collective public disservice" to ZH, me defending my honor & integrity against this fucking troll? I would have done the same to him if he had done it to you Billy, the lying, spreading false rumors, thats just how I am.
You see, I don't allow people to lie about me or my friends in order to discredit, not now, not ever. I stand behind everything I do or say.
How does it go again?
"...then they came for me and there was no one left to speak for me."
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Bob, quit being so breathy -- you'll be late for your mazzola party
I doubt that you'd forget to pick him up.
HA! HA! HA!
So basically, what you're saying is that the police are responsible for black people find whether they're involved or not. And that black people are not responsible for anything. Did I miss anything?
I don't know about that. But anyone who can get 44 downvotes deserves my upvote.
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Sowing racial discord while importing cheap labor 24/7
The blowback from this will be scary. When the thugs realize that the police are just phoning it in, they will go door-to-door raping and pillaging. The gun-hating liberals, unarmed, will get a lesson in diversity.
Yes they will, and it will be funny as hell to watch them come to grips with their own folly.
And when the government reacts to the violence by sending troops door to door taking guns away from white Americans in stable neighborhoods just as they did during Katrina I'm sure you'll laugh and laugh and laugh.
Really? Did the poor `old Bob' get in trouble with the police? Is that why you are so bitter?
Funny! Abusive cops seem to be popular tonight. Whatever. That's as much of my time as I've got to waste.
Well bye.
Natural selection is gonna be a bitch. 50 years of feeding, housing and raising them on the welfare dime. Like building a dam w/o a flood gate.
"A perfect excuse to send in the troops."
Close. The problem being is the troops will be sent to "protect" the America that doesn't need them. And the continued problems in problem areas will be the justification for leaving them there.
Protecting and serving the shit out of you.
Paranoia much?
As I predicted here several times this is a perfectly rational response by police who cannot arrest anyone who resists as they could be charged with murder or assault if the suspect dies or is injured for any reason, including due to pre existing medical conditions (400 pounders who die of heart attacks while resisting arrest), falling and hitting their head, etc.
Not to mention they can't even stop and question anyone now until they are 100% sure the person has comitted a crime, suspicion isn't good enough, that would be racism, even if the cop happens to be black, chinese or latino.
Just wait until summer when all hell breaks loose.
Sounds like they don't have open carry there.
Never stopped Omar...Hey Yo! Omar com'in
Omar was the best! I read somewhere he was either the 1 st or 2nd most liked character of the entire series.
“With savages, the weak in body or mind are soon eliminated; and those that survive commonly exhibit a vigorous state of health. We civilised men, on the other hand, do our utmost to check the process of elimination; we build asylums for the imbecile, the maimed, and the sick; we institute poor-laws; and our medical men exert their utmost skill to save the life of every one to the last moment. There is reason to believe that vaccination has preserved thousands, who from a weak constitution would formerly have succumbed to small-pox. Thus the weak members of civilised societies propagate their kind. No one who has attended to the breeding of domestic animals will doubt that this must be highly injurious to the race of man. It is surprising how soon a want of care, or care wrongly directed, leads to the degeneration of a domestic race; but excepting in the case of man himself, hardly any one is so ignorant as to allow his worst animals to breed."
Charles Darwin - The Descent of Man
Too many rats in the box.
Universe 25?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_sink
Re. the Charles Darwin quote. True enough, but Charles was being a little narrow in his definition of quality. For example - one of the earliest burials of ancestral humans found, Neanderthals, aka savages, was of an old busted up laim guy who could not have physically supported himself. He was buried with great care and a bunch of artifacts. What was going on? People are not like a herd of deer or a pack of squirrels. Humans have other useful qualities. Maybe the old guy was a story teller? a mystic? a singer? an intelligent leader? I mean Homer was blind wasn't he.
Edit: Homer of the Illyad and the Odyssey. Not Homer Simpson for any of you Neanderthals out there. ;)
Where is Sparta when you need her?
Millions of years of evolution vs a few centuries of civilization.
Advantage: Darwin.
Policing just keep everyone busy enough not to cause too much trouble, remove the policing and children will be children except with Guns and drugs. Doesn't matter what neighborhood you shine a lite on, all the same.
Black Lives Matter: would someone please tell that to the "black lives".
Hmmmm......
Nope.
The only things these blue gums understand is force and violence.
If you're still there, get out.
The 'US spring' unfolding as planned.
This is nothing "Obama Housing" can't fix. ?sarc
Coming soon to a neighborhood near you.
So when there is violence on the streets due to an oversupply of drugs as well as an undersupply, can't we just cross out drugs as the cause of violence? Or does balancing equations not apply in such situations?
Miffed;-)
Very good! Somehow that's such an obvious point to make but didn't occur to me.
Sooo regardless of whether the police are active or turn their back on criminal activity, we still have criminal activity in the same place. Hmmm. Seems to me that cops or no cops, we still have bad guys being bad guys, right?
One thing that does seem to tie this whole thingy together is the make up of the community and their elected politicians. Sorry, i meant to say community organizers.
Chicago weekly totals and we are just starting the weekend.
Week in Progress (6/7 – 6/13)
Shot & Killed: 9
Shot & Wounded: 47
Total Shot: 56
Total Homicides: 9
LIES. Guns are illegal in Chicago don't you know?
"So when there is violence on the streets due to an oversupply of drugs as well as an undersupply, can't we just cross out drugs as the cause of violence? Or does balancing equations not apply in such situations?"
Brilliant observation; I'm inclined to view drugs not as a primary source of problems, but as a symptom of something that has gone very wrong in the environment and/or the person. Miserable environments produce many more addicts than wholesome environments do. The "Rat Park" experiments were quite interesting, to say the least; here's a link to a comic that discusses that study.
http://www.stuartmcmillen.com/comics_en/rat-park/
As her young man dies,
on a cold and gray Chicago mornin',
another little baby child is born
In the ghetto [/Elvis]
And I turned twenty-one in prison doing life without parole
No one could steer me right but Owebomba tried, Owebomba tried
Owebomba tried to raise me better, but his bombin' I denied
That leaves only me to blame 'cause Owebomba tried
Buzzsaw, I didn't know you had it in you. Respect.
https://archive.org/details/gd77-05-08.maizner.hicks.5002.sbeok.shnf
Could not link directly. You have to click on the ninth song in the set.
If I was a cop in Baltimore, I'd have my siren on blocks before pulling up to the reported address, and be doing the speed limit, and not a MPH more. When you get there, you proceed at a very slow and cautious pace, and assume that the best play is to wait for your supervisor and an attorney to show up and advise on how you should proceed. Of course the perp is now blocks away, but nobody gets roughed up by the police, and the police minimize risk to themselves. The real blame rests with the politicians, who took the law abiding citizens rights to own guns away. In which case, you wouldn't even NEED the police most of the time, except to show up and fill out a report of how a citizen shot and killed somebody trying to rob them. So as TeamDepends stated in a post here, the progressives are reaping what they sowed. True.
While your post has much truth, I would add that "the real blame" rests with the decline of morality in the US- unmarried mothers raising sons with no male role model- or terrible male role models.
Of course, we could go back further than that, and say "the real blame" began with importing slaves.
We could go back even further, but you catch my drift...
Unmarried moms are employees of the welfare state, just like Baltimore drug dealers. It's all by design, for 50 years.
There is truth in your statement, but it is an over-generalization.
There are plenty of unmarried moms who are not on welfare.
There are probably some Baltimore drug dealers who are not on welfare.
But, you are 100% correct that it is by design.
They put Miracle-Grow on weeds for 50 years.
The filthy ass raping liberal progressives all live in white neighborhoods off federal employee/tenure welfare. The fact they are preying, like vampires, on a group of people who have absolutely no chance of defending themselves by legal or political means makes me sick to my stomach. Of course these are the same enlightened mother fuckers who think it is okay to butcher children in utero as long as they are of color, but who would shit down both legs and have an absolute tizzy fit if you did the same thing to a Spotted Owl.
Disgusting.
You definitely have a way with words.
Drugs are coming from Afghanistan, so it's kinda usa narko-barons are killing citizens
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Webb#Later_career_and_suicide
Poor, brave, honest Gary Webb "suicided" himself by shooting himself, in the head, twice. This was obviously in the day before they had nail-guns.
Another guy who refused to go along was Michael Ruppert, who while working narcotics for the LAPD, refused to turn a blind-eye to CeyeA drug flights, despite the best efforts of his CeyeA girlfriend. He wrote a book about it "Crossing the Rubicon". Eventually, he got a little messed up in the head (a la Martin Armstrong) from the intensity of the counter-attack. Especially after getting poisoned while trying to get away into Venezuela. He recently suicided too.
Chip Tatum is another one. But don't even go there.
I know the majority here at ZH hate the cops and all, and that is justified in some situations. But the cops who deal in the inner cities are not your typical deputy dogs. Some are, but most see the utter human debris that our socialism has bred.
Let this play out for a few months.
I think we'll set a precedent by electing an entire city for this year's Darwin award.
Blacks killing blacks. They've been doing that since they were barefoot and stupid in Africa. Only difference is that most of them aren't barefoot anymore.
Got dem Air Jordans ****a!!!!! Or does Lebron James have a shoe? Whatever, $300 sneakers that only people on welfare are dumb enough to buy.
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
There's plenty of blame to be spread around.
Just to prove the point, one could just as truthfully state:
Whites killing whites. They've been doing that since they were barefoot and stupid in Europe. Only difference is that most of them aren't barefoot anymore.
Asians killing asians. They've been doing that since they were barefoot and stupid in Asia. Only difference is that most of them aren't barefoot anymore.
Indians killing Indians. They've been doing that since they were barefoot and stupid in America. Only difference is that most of them aren't barefoot anymore.
There's more to the current problems than the color of a man's skin.
Moral decline to the point of immorality- or even ammorality, is the primary contributor.
Not really. The blacks never had many morals. There's a reason there used to be lynch mobs in the south. It wasn't because Kunte Kinte was despised by all the jealous white folk, either. His relatives moved up north running from the law, in many cases. Then the Fedgov thought it would be a brilliant idea to feed and raise the criminal class in housing projects.
I know blacks with morals.
The issue of morality has nothing to do with the color of a man's skin.
There are moral, immoral, and ammoral people of every color.
You are 100% right on this point Seeker. In fact, when Whites kill Whites, or Blacks, Browns, Yellows or Reds, they do it on an INDUSTRIAL SCALE.
For example - Hellstorm - The Real Genocide of Nazi Germany (Documentary w/ Subtitles)
Another example - Red terror! (??????/The Chekist)
True, but you have to the take into account percentages and proportions. Every race has an under-class, but some races have a bigger under-class than others. Like a big man carrying a light sack vs. a small man carrying a big sack.
You need an IQ of at least 105 to be a doctor, engineer or scientist. The average IQ of an African-American is 85. Do you see the problem? For a population with an average IQ of 100 (Whites) there are plenty of individuals capable of filling these roles and creating a 1st world society. Blacks have a giant, permanent underclass due to their inherent, low-IQ genetic makeup. This is why everywhere you have high concentrations of blacks (Africa, Haiti, Detroit) you have 3rd world conditions.
The big difference is the stupid part. In sufficient numbers to average out individuals who fall outside the bell curves, the whites, the asians and the indians aren't stupid anymore. The blacks still are.
Ain't no fixing genetics. I am white trash and I will always be white trash no matter how hard I try to better myself. But compared to the average porch monkey in his feral pack, I am fucking Einstein.
Screw 'em. Let the good times roll...
Gotta love how the NYTimes is trying to direct the narrative...
And Tylers, I understand trying to take a balanced stance, but you folks didn't sound believable at all with your "on the one hand, but on the other hand' stuff...
The New York Times wants to keep you in chains.
Yawn...until those black freedom fighters take it to whitey's neighborhood, it's just local politics.
And when they do, it will be slaughter...Because "there is law and then there is ORDER"
I think you should dig into this a bit more. Police are being conditioned to avoid enforcement when it's a black suspect in particular. You think that police are going to protect You and put their careers and potentially their lives in jeopardy? I've been reading some local blogs in individual cities...in particular Baltimore, and they're confirming that the criminal organs of the hood are in control, and the police are merely present and accounted for...
Exactly, there was no holding back in the executions at Waco, and no complaints from OBugger or the female Holder.
Hell no complaints from anyone of the DemPublican party, media, academia...nothing. Only Tim
The incidents regarding Ferguson, Baltimore, and NYC, and now McKinney, Tx should make you wonder if a societal shift is being manufactured. Try using your firearm to ward off a black attack. And remember what happened to those LEO's. As a civilian you are in grave legal jeopardy trying to protect you and yours. Remember also Zimmerman of Treyvon Martin fame. Life is ruined, and he barely avoided prison.
That's why Stand Your Ground was created. The Jewdicial system has given all the rights to the criminal. Zimmerman was attacked by the MSM because of Stand Your Ground law.
There is already a Second Amendment...stand your ground is an attempt to provide some legal cover for exercising said Amendment, which shows just how weak that Constitution right is. Needing a law to protect a Constitutional right. That same concept is under renewed attack and still, after a SCOTUS decision basically reinstating the 2nd Amendment, many states and cities have doubled down on said right. LA, Chicago, NYC, Baltimore, DC and many more dare you to have a firearm as a law abiding citizen, and just use it in any of those places and observe. A jury is led by the nose to reach consensus. Just like elections. I know I'm being exceptionally pessimistic, and I hate it, but too many data points point to the opposite of everything we were ever taught about life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
Zimmerman was attacked because he was shoe horned to fit a narrative that the majority is oppressive and must pay, and the 'minority' had a right to retribution by any means possible.
Just as a tiny minority seizes power in Communist revolutions, and consequently decides the laws of physics, the same is happening right before our eyes. The black/brown is our Proletariat, and evil majority white Bourgeoisie must be destroyed, with the help of the Dictatorship of the Proletariat. It fits close enough to raise it imho.
The Black Baltimore Mayor, Black Chief of Police, Black Attorney General, Obama, Holder, Valerie Jarrett, Elijah Cummings, Maxie Watters, and virtually all the other Black "so called" Leaders/Politicians live in "White" neighborhoods....Hypocrites.... 95% of the Black people in the U.S. vote based on skin color... is that racist? and who's the racist?.... Exactly...
You need a special header with the box score of Baltimore deaths.
Freedom isn't free.
Yeah right.
The gun and badge thugs just quit fudging the numbers like they have for the last several years. Classifying a deadly mugging as a mugging and not a murder, etc.
Regardless, just more of the tread of tyranny blaming their victims for their, the gun and badge thugs', abdication of their true responsibilities of justice in lieu of terrorizing and plundering those people instead.
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission..
Article 3, Section 3, "it's the law."
And nothing of value was lost.
“I can hire one-half of the working class to kill the other half.”, Jay Gould.
Good column, but curious last line. How exactly do we address the social ills of such communities? You will get a lot of different viewpoints there. A change in AA culture is what is really needed, not sure if public policy can do anything about that.