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California Water Wars Escalate: Government Orders Massive Supply Cuts To Most Senior Rights Holders

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Just two weeks after California's farmers - with the most senior water rights - offered to cut their own water use by 25% (in an attempt to front-run more draconian government-imposed measures), AP reports that the California government has - just as we predicted - ignored any efforts at self-preservation and ordered the largest cuts on record to farmers holding some of the state's strongest water rights. While frackers and big energy remain exempt from the restrictions, Caren Trgovcich, chief deputy director of the water board, explains, "we are now at the point where demand in our system is outstripping supply for even the most senior water rights holders."

 

With "the whole damn state out of water," AP reports State water officials told more than a hundred senior rights holders in California's Sacramento, San Joaquin and delta watersheds to stop pumping from those waterways.

The move by the State Water Resources Control Board marked the first time that the state has forced large numbers of holders of senior-water rights to curtail use. Those rights holders include water districts that serve thousands of farmers and others.

 

The move shows California is sparing fewer and fewer users in the push to cut back on water using during the state's four-year drought.

 

"We are now at the point where demand in our system is outstripping supply for even the most senior water rights holders," Caren Trgovcich, chief deputy director of the water board.

 

The order applies to farmers and others whose rights to water were staked more than a century ago. Many farmers holding those senior-water rights contend the state has no authority to order cuts.

 

The reductions are enforced largely on an honor system because there are few meters and sensors in place to monitor consumption.

 

California already has ordered cuts in water use by cities and towns and by many other farmers..

 

The move Friday marked the first significant mandatory cuts because of drought for senior water rights holders since the last major drought in the late 1970s. One group of farmers with prized claims have made a deal with the state to voluntarily cut water use by 25 percent to be spared deep mandatory cuts in the future.

 

The San Joaquin River watershed runs from the Sierra Nevada to San Francisco Bay and is a key water source for farms and communities.

 

Thousands of farmers with more recent, less secure claims to water have already been told to stop all pumping from the San Joaquin and Sacramento watersheds. They are turning to other sources of water, including wells, reservoirs and the expensive open market.

 

Some farmers have built their businesses around that nearly guaranteed access to water.

 

Jeanne Zolezzi, an attorney for two small irrigation districts serving farmers in the San Joaquin area, says she plans to go to court next week to stop the board's action. She said her clients include small family farms that grow permanent crops such as apricots and walnuts without backup supplies in underground wells or local reservoirs they can turn to when they can't pump from rivers and streams.

 

"A lot of trees would die, and a lot of people would go out of business," said Zolezzi. "We are not talking about a 25 percent cut like imposed on urban. This is a 100 percent cut, no water supplies."

 

California water law is built around preserving the rights of such senior-rights holders. The state last ordered drought-mandated curtailments by senior-water rights holders in 1976-77, but that order affected only a few dozen rights holders.

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As NASA concluded previously, as difficult as it may be to face, the simple fact is that California is running out of water — and the problem started before our current drought. NASA data reveal that total water storage in California has been in steady decline since at least 2002, when satellite-based monitoring began, although groundwater depletion has been going on since the early 20th century.

Right now the state has only about one year of water supply left in its reservoirs, and our strategic backup supply, groundwater, is rapidly disappearing. California has no contingency plan for a persistent drought like this one (let alone a 20-plus-year mega-drought), except, apparently, staying in emergency mode and praying for rain.

In short, we have no paddle to navigate this crisis.

Several steps need be taken right now.

First, immediate mandatory water rationing should be authorized across all of the state's water sectors, from domestic and municipal through agricultural and industrial. The Metropolitan Water District of Southern California is already considering water rationing by the summer unless conditions improve. There is no need for the rest of the state to hesitate. The public is ready. A recent Field Poll showed that 94% of Californians surveyed believe that the drought is serious, and that one-third support mandatory rationing.

 

Second, the implementation of the Sustainable Groundwater Management Act of 2014 should be accelerated. The law requires the formation of numerous, regional groundwater sustainability agencies by 2017. Then each agency must adopt a plan by 2022 and “achieve sustainability” 20 years after that. At that pace, it will be nearly 30 years before we even know what is working. By then, there may be no groundwater left to sustain.

 

Third, the state needs a task force of thought leaders that starts, right now, brainstorming to lay the groundwork for long-term water management strategies. Although several state task forces have been formed in response to the drought, none is focused on solving the long-term needs of a drought-prone, perennially water-stressed California.

 

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Sat, 06/13/2015 - 21:32 | 6194500 kowalli
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set match game.

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 21:38 | 6194514 Divine Wind
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Other recent droughts in California:

1928-1935
1976-1977
1987-1993 

This too shall pass.

 

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 21:42 | 6194522 kridkrid
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All were pre-HAARP.

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 22:31 | 6194579 Publicus
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Easy come, easy go. As California returns back to the desert along with 40 million people.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 03:23 | 6194955 old naughty
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you mean "returns back to the desert (without) 40 million people", no?

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 07:50 | 6195117 SWRichmond
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"Rights Holders"

You have the "right" to be controlled.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 08:35 | 6195154 Antifaschistische
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The fact that they are being told to stop pumping water...obviously infers, there IS water in the canals.   So why do they have to stop pumping?   Of course, to keep the water flowing down the valley so they can pump it over the hills to Los Angeles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Aqueduct

 

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 10:09 | 6195280 Publicus
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Depopulation is the agenda.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 10:47 | 6195339 MonetaryApostate
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Everyone forgets the God factor in the equation, yes He is going to destroy mankind with fire (Hence the rainbow)...

 

Taste the rainbow!

 

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 12:12 | 6195481 Anusocracy
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Piss on California.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 12:01 | 6195461 TBT or not TBT
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The nutters in sacramento hate s suburban single family homes, but for once the electoral math, and their glorious will to power, has them negating long held property rights.  The bait fish of the delta and suburban voters must be served.  

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 10:16 | 6195299 HenryHall
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Other not so recent drought in California

1816 to 1844

 

This too shall pass. In a little over 25 years time.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 13:05 | 6195573 The Big Ching-aso
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I think Governor Brown is a forward-thinking genius. The Bullet Train is gonna be needed to warp speed people out of California to wherever the water is.

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 23:43 | 6194773 weburke
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yup, and with this understanding, prepping is the only way to go. They are up to no good. depop up to bat.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 03:49 | 6194973 Oh regional Indian
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Zis ees Agenda 21, alive and kicking.

Ze bohemian grove needsanother 50,000 hectares...the more to chase their victims in...

Divide and conquer's FIRST TACTIC is forced migrations...

Since it was stolen from Mehiico, USSA is shitting on the plate before returning it?

The givernment's way of saving people from Fuku harm (haaaaahahhhaaaaaa....joke, just slipped it in, only the tip)....

Und so geht es...

New piece, Indian guitar...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyK3MwfBElw

 

 

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 05:17 | 6195024 trader1
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We used to be satisfied by simple plotlines but no longer.

We have developed discerning tastes, desensitized by decades of television and new media.

We watch the latest news story after the latest news story titillated by the tragedies of our times.

Let the world happen and unfold.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 09:16 | 6195210 McCormick No. 9
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1. The drought is over. The mudslide era has begun.

2. HAARP fucked up and helped create the current mega El Nino. Hurricanes dissapate heat energy. When you break up a hurricane by heating the ionospehere with microwave radiation and force an intense downward moving toroidal airwave into a hurricane- thus essentially destroying it's  ability to continue its counter-clockwise rotation, and thus preventing it from being a heat engine-  the latent heat energy remains in the water!

As the water gets hotter, it wants to create an even bigger hurricane. All you've done by preventing the first hurricane is making sure you have a stonger one next time. It's a perfect analogy for the 08 crash. If the crash itself was a financial hurricane, then preventing the crash simply has guaranteed that the next crash will be even more catastrophic.

All that superheated (I mean that as hyberbole,not as an accurate scientific term) ocean water is spinning up hurricanes like a motherfucker- three named hrricanes already this year, and June is just starting.

HAARP can't shut them all down. They tried with the first one and them gave up. Califirnia is ging to get hosed- literally, with way too much water. Mark my words. We will see epic, and I mean epic floods this autumn, and major snowfall this winter as this El Nino proves to be the mother of all Baby Jesus Holy Shit We're Fucked By All This Fucking Water El Nino's.

You just watch. Thanks for being HAARP aware.

 

 

 

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 21:52 | 6194544 kowalli
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population 1928- 5mln

                   1977 - 22mln

                  1993- 31mln

2015 - 39 mlm + fracking

you will see consequences this year for sure

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 21:54 | 6194553 Ness.
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In 1930 California population was about 3+ million.  Today?  roughly 39 million.

 

this time it's different alright.

 

Go Hawks!!

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 22:04 | 6194563 seminal1
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Meanwhile the leftists on the California State Water Resource Control Board ordered to the U.S. Bureau of Reclamation to release water from Folsom Reservoir at a rate that could drop lake levels within a few feet of the water supply outlet that serves various cities in the Sacramento area. 

The reason? To conserve cold water supplies in the Shasta Reservoir system upstream for FISH

“If the current plan remains unchanged and we experience a dry fall, we could see half a million people in the region without water,” PCWA General Manager said. “This could, in effect, destroy the entire Sacramento region’s economy.”

http://www.pcwa.net/files/News_Releases/2015/06-05-2015_PCWA_Directors_E...

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 23:11 | 6194703 JR
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Excellent post! California has a bigger problem than drought; it’s called communists…the Bolshevik strategy for breaking the knees of the property owners to enrich the masses who will support a despotic system. The environmentalists, as you have explained, would sacrifice property for fish, and the immigration promoters would sacrifice agricultural food crops for more Democrat voters.

Why has total water storage in California been in steady decline since at least 2002 (and well before that because satellite based monitoring was not being done)?

Answer: It’s the literal explosion in population from Mexico that has pushed cities, housing and facilities far, far beyond their capacity to supply water. Ironically, it was California’s early pioneers who developed the greatest agricultural production area the world had ever known, made with water that they secured with legal, document-supporting water rights, many of them now more than 100 years old.

So, look at this: A welfare system out of control now begins to take away private property on a grand scale, because without water the crops will die and the property becomes worthless.

To make matters worse, the Democrat-controlled, illegal-immigration-supporting state government allows apartment dwellers a free rein on water because no way can be thought of to monitor their individual water use. (no pun intended)

Says KPCC, Los Angeles, writes: “Of the roughly 680,000 water connections serviced by the LADWP, 110,000 go to multifamily dwellings. That means tenants don't necessarily have an incentive to save water since they're not paying for it directly.

“Landlords do have an economic incentive to install low-flow shower heads and toilets and immediately fix any leaking pipes. 

“Given the number of renters in Los Angeles, the LADWP is encouraging apartment dwellers to do their part by taking shorter showers and reporting any leaks or water-wasting appliances to their landlord.” (emphasis mine)

http://www.scpr.org/news/2015/04/02/50747/california-drought-restrictions-faq-what-the-gover/

 

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 07:36 | 6195102 Doctor Faustus
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I grew up in California in the 60's & 70's and left in 1993 for NC. Still have family in the OC. Your comments regarding a Bolshevik strategy gives the political class running California way too much credit. They are, like most Californians, too self-centered and myopic to see beyond the smog-choked horizon. As long as the materially wealthy and politically-connected live their secluded lives in their gated communities, whatever problems the state faces is always "someone else's problem." 

Equilibrium will always be achieved...even though it may take quite a few decades and a revolution or two.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 09:39 | 6195238 augustusgloop
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You live in California and you live in a centrally planned state--It's called the State Water Project for a reason--it was never private. Pat Brown was the father of the project. I.e. it was always a 'Commie' project, Dilweed. Central authority over a river system in an arid climate is literally as old as civilization--Nile, Yellow (more flood protection), Tigris-Euphrates--what makes the Sacramento-San Joaquin any different? 

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 14:40 | 6195836 rejected
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"To make matters worse, the Democrat-controlled,......"

Are you implying a Repub controlled government would be better?  Like the National Government?

Personally, The only difference I see  between the two are the Demo's give you a left handed reach around, while the Repubs give you a right hand reach around.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 02:58 | 6194932 fascismlover
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Agreed....the question remains though...what are the people going to do without almonds??  Mayhem and chaos I imagine.  

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 11:39 | 6195423 Abitdodgie
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You can buy raw Almounds from spain insted of these from CA that have been heated and washed in amonia.

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 22:07 | 6194573 Bad Asset
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This is different.  Ground water has never been this low.  

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 22:22 | 6194590 ZD1
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Much of the rain and snow that falls in California ends up flowing out to the Pacific Ocean.

About 50 percent of the water that is captured by the state’s dams, reservoirs, aqueducts, and other infrastructure is diverted for environmental causes--like the Delta smelt fish.

 

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/416918/no-farmers-dont-use-80-perc...

 

http://www.science20.com/science_20/california_government_is_the_big_wat...

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 22:11 | 6194577 booboo
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Damn right, besides with rising sea levels they will be under 6' of water by 2012 anyways. New York City is only navigable be boat as we speak and I seen the video of mass extinction fissures blowing hot magma right out of Sunset Blvd. I'm serious, really, I seen it on the teevee,'maybe it was a movie,

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 22:22 | 6194600 Macon Richardson
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"This too shall pass." In the meantime California's entire economy shall have passed too leaving only a FAILED STATE.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 03:29 | 6194959 Nexus789
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That miniscual timescale is irrelevant. Studies of the geology of the Western US show numerous long run mega droughts have occured in the past.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 05:56 | 6195048 NoPension
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Oh no,
When your 18 yo; drinking, driving,fucking, voting...... Is like it is new. It never happened before. If you haven't experienced it, it did not happen. Damn shame the human brain works like that, but it is manipulated so well, by so few.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 09:26 | 6195217 10mm
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Your forgetting population.

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 22:13 | 6194584 junction
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When the Pineapple Express slams into Southern California and sends houses sliding down hillsides, expect Jerry Brown to continue pushing one sided drought regulations.  Oil stained beaches, polluted aquifers and very high gasoline prices come with living in California.

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 21:41 | 6194518 NoDebt
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No Depression is complete without a proper Dust Bowl.

 

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 21:52 | 6194545 localsavage
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Never underestimate how far the ruling class will go to get more power.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 09:27 | 6195220 Max Cynical
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"The law requires the formation of numerous, regional groundwater sustainability agencies by 2017. Then each agency must adopt a plan by 2022 and “achieve sustainability” 20 years after that. At that pace, it will be nearly 30 years before we even know what is working. By then, there may be no groundwater left to sustain."

Ah yes...the more government agencies solution.

I was thinking of herding illegals back to where they came, fast tracking the construction of water storage reservoirs and perhaps building a pipeline from the Columbia River for the benefit of Nevada, Utah, California and Arizona.

But what do I know?

 

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 21:58 | 6194558 Uber Vandal
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And locusts.

Don't forget locusts.

I wonder how long before the Rocky Mountain Locust pulls a "Doakes" on us too, compliments of some genetic experiment to bring back biodiversity or something.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 00:38 | 6194834 TheGreatRecovery
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It would be ironic if, in a reverse Grapes of Wrath, Californians emigrated back to Oklahoma.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 12:24 | 6195501 Bad Attitude
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At least a couple decades ago, Californians realized they'd soiled their nest and started emigrating out of California, and in the process started poisoning the places where they landed.

Forward (over the cliff)!

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 05:58 | 6195051 NoPension
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I called this. The "State" will eminent domain the shit out of any so called "water rights" .
Senior Water Rights. Yeah, my ass.

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 21:45 | 6194529 suteibu
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"Third, the state needs a task force of thought leaders..."

Is this an admission that the state does not currently have "thought leaders?"  Perhaps it is an admission that the former and current "thought leaders" failed. 

Maybe California ought to get rid of the notion of "thought leaders" altogether and stop electing people like Moonbeam to run the state.

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 22:21 | 6194599 NoDebt
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"Is this an admission that the state does not currently have "thought leaders?""

There is nothing I don't like about that comment.  I defy anyone to find logical fault in that.  Well played.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 06:01 | 6195054 NoPension
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Like here on the East coast. We get a big snowstorm, and the Government announces , "essential employees only, need show to work". Methinks that is about 5% of .gov workforce.

Seems about right.

"Thought leaders" in government. That's a fucking punchline!

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 22:30 | 6194615 Westcoastliberal
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Oh fuck yeah! Like Arnold (I will audit) Schwartznfucker, yes what a GREAT job he did and it took Jerry Brown two years just to un-screw what Arnold did to the state.  Gray Davis was a great governor run out of the statehouse by a GOP cabal.  We'll NOT let THAT happen again here in sunny CA.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 06:02 | 6195055 NoPension
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You forgot the sarc tag.

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 21:46 | 6194532 denverdolomte
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#Obamawater

9 parts high fructose corn syrup, 1 part hope. Free #Obamacare for the fallout. 

EBT all day everyday till the day I die.

Detroit, at least it's not California. 

Well hey at least their $6Million dollar homes will still be worth something....oh wait. Logic, right.....damn the logic.

 

Thanks Obama.

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 22:24 | 6194604 ZeroPoint
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Not to worry, Wells Fargo will mark the value of the house to the peak price not to upset their securities, and Bank of America will just continue to mark their car loan delinquent even though they haven't made a payment in 5 years.

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 21:46 | 6194533 zeroaccountability
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Just ship in truckload upon truckload of bottled water....no 'es problemo.

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 21:48 | 6194536 Platypus
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We don't need no stinking California to grow our food. Just cover the whole darn state with solar panels and shift our food production to Mexico. A mexican will work 12 hours with no break for a piece of bread and butter. End of conversation !!

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 06:04 | 6195057 NoPension
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Move the production to the labor.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 10:19 | 6195304 ThisIsBob
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Its been done with apples  (The "I" kind.)

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 21:49 | 6194539 Jack Burton
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"we are now at the point where demand in our system is outstripping supply"

So then, the market must work. The quantity of available water does not meet the demand for it. In that case, we can allow the market to work, and let the price of water reflect price discovery. In short, the price will rise until users are priced out, other who really want water bad will put up the money to buy, when they are priced out, then we know the price of water. Government can't allow a marketm because people early on claimed to own H20 in California, they made claims to ownership of what fell from the skies and flowed in rivers and lakes. Government steeped in an enforced their Water Rights. So government can also step in an unenforce their claims. If you live by the sword, i.e. government imposed water rights for you, then you can die by the sword. Government stepping in to cancel part of your so called Senior Water Rights.

Mother nature is telling the folks of California who really runs Barter Town. In future, weather will have much more to say about the economy, much, much more. No government has yet found a way to cheat the reality of weather and climate. It's will is absolute.

For now, farmers will have to drill deeper and pump harder. Thats all there is to it.

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 22:13 | 6194580 TheMeatTrapper
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Jack - you remain my favorite poster here. I really value your common sense, straightforward, non snarky comments on a board that is increasingly flippant and irrational. 

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 22:24 | 6194606 NoDebt
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"on a board that is increasingly flippant and irrational."

I resemble that remark.

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 22:32 | 6194620 suteibu
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I rather see some of the flippant and irrational as excellent satire.   Mark Twain would come here were he alive today.

(Although some things, like the horrible "Engrish" gag every time there is a Chinese or Japanese article, are simply no longer funny.)

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 22:37 | 6194631 NoDebt
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"I rather see some of the flippant and irrational as excellent satire."

Well, I do my best.  Some get it, some don't.  Way I see it, once I've put something out there, it's the other guys' problem how they want to interpret it.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 06:05 | 6195058 NoPension
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Drill Deeper and Pump Harder!

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 06:17 | 6195066 Arnold
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I consider a few of my comments artistic release.

Letting my inner muse run wild, so to speak.

 

 

ND, keep on rocking in the free world.

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 22:27 | 6194610 sand_puppy
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I want to recomment a very good novel by Paulo Bacigalupi, The Water Knife, set in the near future where Las Vagas and Pheonix battle for control of the dwingling Colorado River flow.  A "knife" is a hitman / enforcer for the mafia-like gangs that fight the war for control of the water.  Market forces and violence set the water price.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 09:36 | 6195234 44_shooter
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Paulo Bacigalupi sucks - I had to force myself to finish The Windup Girl.

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 22:42 | 6194640 silverer
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The California water problem is much like the Federal spending problem.  First, you way overdo it.  Then, you continue to way overdo it.  Then, you realize you have been way overdoing it.  Then, you realize that there are potential problems from way overdoing it.  A dialog is started, but no committments are made to change the status quo.  Everybody argues their point about what might be done to fix way overdoing it, and the various groups torpedo each other's ideas.  By the time there is a real sense of urgency and anything is actually done, the whole thing is way past fixing.

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 22:51 | 6194655 suteibu
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And in the end, people will simply walk away from their bankrupt farms and La Raza will reclaim large sections of abandoned California for Mexico (or whatever they represent).

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 00:18 | 6194821 Augustus
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A Beaner and the donkey are adjusted to low rainfall.  Who really needs a bath or shower?

Compton chimps will have to relocate.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 00:18 | 6194822 Augustus
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A Beaner and the donkey are adjusted to low rainfall.  Who really needs a bath or shower?

Compton chimps will have to relocate.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 06:06 | 6195060 NoPension
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Just like the debt problem, this will fix itself.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 14:29 | 6195809 rejected
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What debt problem,,, this country has no problem with debt.

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 23:16 | 6194714 Niall Of The Ni...
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Government can't allow a market for water, because the trophy wives of top contributors to campaigns of both political parties will go completely batshit when the organic fruit and almond milk they buy at Whole Paycheck doubles, triples or quadruples in price.

They can't authorize construction of desalination plants because the trophy wives have nothing better to do than to show up in Sacramento screeching that the plant will ruin the view of the Pacific from their "dream homes." Because their husbands are very rich, they will be heard. The proles will either learn to line up quietly for their water ration or move back east.

Precisely nothing of substance will be done about California's water shortage until it starts affecting the lives of the cream of the elite. By then, of course, it'll be far too late to do much good. The elite are always the last to notice the stink when they've fouled their nest beyond redemption, and the first to fly away. 

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 06:10 | 6195063 NoPension
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Ed Begley Jr. messed up. He announced on live TV that he has underground water storage with 10,000 gallons.

That's like saying " I built a vault in the basement, and it's filled with cash and gold. You should too."

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 00:36 | 6194832 TheGreatRecovery
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Eventually, no matter how deep they drill, they will run out of water, because there is only so much water under the ground.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 01:05 | 6194866 SFopolis
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"Eventually, no matter how deep they drill, they will run out of water, because there is only so much water under the ground."  Posted by TheGreatRecovery....

What fool voted that one down?  

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 17:26 | 6196206 TheGreatRecovery
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:-)  Also, the longer the straw, the more energy you need to suck water through it.  But maybe they believe in Pelucidar, and believe they can drill right through the mantle to the inside-out Earth inside, and suck that water out.  "I believe, I believe, I believe".  (-:

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 21:55 | 6194554 q99x2
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I'll buy that worthless land. All I need is for some bankster to print me up a bundle. Oh, they intend to keep it for themselves. Imagine that.

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 22:01 | 6194561 kareninca
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At the same time, in my condo complex in Silicon Valley, I email the management and tell them that I have to run the cold water tap for many gallons at night in order to get water that isn't actually warm.  Some screw up in the tank, I guess; it's way too warm and for too long to be due to just sitting in the pipes. Well, I'm not drinking warm water from the cold tap; screw that.  Do they care?  No.  No motivation to save those gallons by fixing the thing.

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 22:16 | 6194592 Bighorn_100b
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Put your tap water in the fridge. Problem solved. DUH!

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 07:33 | 6195032 kareninca
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Warm tap water is not safe to drink.  IT CONTAINS DISSOLVED LEAD AND OTHER TOXIC MINERALS.  Putting it in the fridge does not cause the lead to go away; it does not cause it to be safe to drink.

Here you go:  http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/29/health/29real.html?_r=0 (warm tap water dissolves lead in the pipes and is not safe to drink)

Or if you prefer the CDC (http://www.cdc.gov/nceh/lead/tips/water.htm)(Before using any tap water for drinking or cooking, flush your water system by running the kitchen tap (or any other tap you take drinking or cooking water from) on COLDfor 1–2 minutes)

I actually assumed that by describing this plumbing issue on ZH, I would get some tips on how to get it fixed since it's such a macho, manly site.  But not one single suggestion, just angry down votes.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 07:42 | 6195109 Doctor Faustus
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How old are the pipes and what is their composition? Not too many old dwellings in Califonia...especially Silicon Valley. You might want to get a test kit to determine the lead content before assuming there's lead in the water.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 07:51 | 6195118 kareninca
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1976; copper pipes with what I believe are lead welds.  Most of the plumbing is still the original stuff.  Yes, you're right, I think I'd better get a test kit.

I'm also just wondering how this is happening  -  is the cold water passing through the hot water heater somehow???

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 09:02 | 6195183 ljag
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I believe Chicago still installs lead mains. Calcium covers the inside of these mains and water is safe to drink by the time they are finished flushing said pipes. Same goes for copper lines in your home. A simple check valve will cure warm water out the tap.
I live near lead mines (leadington) and my well is lead free ....mas o menos

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 12:13 | 6195486 jemlyn
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Get a Berkey.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 17:46 | 6196250 TheGreatRecovery
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That's an idea.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 17:46 | 6196249 TheGreatRecovery
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Today we live in a sea of toxic chemicals.  Way more than our ancestors.

The Water Utility ought to have regular reports of the chemicals in its water.  I believe that is required by the Clean Water Act.

As for the water at your tap, I have no idea what a lab might charge to analyze a sample you brought them.

Of course, there is chelation therapy to help your body eliminate lead and other heavy metals.  But the heavy metals have to pass through your kidneys on their way out.  So I would agree that getting heavy metals out of your body is probably not as good as keeping heavy metals out of the pipes in the first place.

And I think there are other things besides chelation available these days.  And I think vitamin C is supposed to help.  There are books which discuss this, some of them written by M.D.s.

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 22:34 | 6194626 Bighorn_100b
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Would you like directions on how to make ice cubes? LOL!

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 05:32 | 6195033 kareninca
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I can't believe that as a female, I know more about plumbing than some guy who calls himself "Bighorn."  What has this country come to.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 17:52 | 6196256 TheGreatRecovery
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:-)  Menfolks come with built-in plumbin and don't need to read no stinkin books bout no stinkin plumbin. :-)

www.berkeywater.com

 

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 23:43 | 6194767 Shed Boy
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you drink tap water?   eeewwww...

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 08:48 | 6195169 Beowulf55
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BRAWNDO FOR EVERYONE!

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 04:18 | 6194995 chopd livr
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 blaming others...

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 05:42 | 6195030 kareninca
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Please see above, and save yourself from future further lead poisoning.  Warm tap water is not safe to drink.  Chilling it in the fridge does not remove the lead.

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 22:09 | 6194574 lolmao500
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Worst drought in how many decades? California is a fucking desert. A 100 years drought is not impossible. The worst thing about a long California drought is that all those commiefornians are gonna spread their commie ideas in other states...

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 04:04 | 6194966 zebrasquid
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Ever been outside of Newark or wherever you call home?
Either way, please don't come here, T.I.A.

More likely the Eastern Seaboard gets destroyed by a Cat 5 hurricane or 300' mega-tsunami from the Canary Islands, or NYC and D.C. are nuked or conquered by ISIS, than that we get turned into the Sahara in the next 100 years..

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 22:13 | 6194581 Atomizer
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Man Boy Show And Beer Stand 

Obama can sell a highly taxed product to launder ocean water money. 

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 22:13 | 6194582 holdbuysell
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<--HAARP

<--Mother Nature

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 22:23 | 6194601 Bighorn_100b
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Greece no money

California no water

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 03:35 | 6194962 Lin S
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Where's the "Judgment from God" option?

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 07:35 | 6195101 Swave
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“The Golden State” of California was quite purposefully chosen as the site for this geoengineering ‘experiment’ with a quite purposeful agenda. This agenda has different components. The climate engineering component is the most far-reaching and consequential and has been operating for some time now. However, in this case, climate engineering via atmospheric manipulation has been taken to an entirely new level and in a very dangerous direction over the past few years since the drought began.

http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=13541

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 22:26 | 6194609 Westcoastliberal
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#1 on the "what should be done" list is emergency construction of wave-powered desalination plants up and down the coast near population centers.  As in "Manhattan project" scale.  The size of the California economy alone outstrips many countries, and without water, the entire U.S. ecomony will take a giant hit.  Talk about your fucking "Black Swan"!

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 17:56 | 6196268 TheGreatRecovery
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I don't think I will take a giant hit.

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 22:29 | 6194612 silverer
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Time to throw in the Yellowstone Caldera for the grand finale.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 08:18 | 6195134 christiangustafson
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Hindenburg Omen!

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 22:32 | 6194621 xizang777
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I feel sorry for the people living in the states just downwind from California.  Soon, Californians won't have enough water to take showers or flush their toilets.  And they're gonna stink really bad...

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 22:40 | 6194637 jtg
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"While frackers and big energy remain exempt from the restrictions".

As usual, the elites protect their own and f**k us serfs.

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 22:44 | 6194645 silverer
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Drink oil?

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 03:39 | 6194964 Freedumb
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Let them eat [oil/cake]

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 23:03 | 6194680 nah
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Young man head east.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 01:08 | 6194869 SFopolis
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Go East Young Man

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 03:30 | 6194960 zebrasquid
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East coast is mostly a cesspool of crumbling infrastructure, racial animosity and bad weather. Last thing most of us would think or want to do is come there to "live".

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 03:40 | 6194967 Freedumb
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Currently closer to the cesspool that the entire country is destined to become, so at least you can get used to it living in the east for a bit in advance

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 23:40 | 6194748 mikemora
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How come the Delta Smelt aren't water rationed? This is a partly man made event due to the fact the federal government is mandating the waste of billions of gallons of fresh water to flow to the sea to support a species that the latest fish census only manages to count 500 of the 3" bait fish. 

This is Moonbeam's legacy whether he likes it or not.

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 23:38 | 6194757 tarabel
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There is a simple solution to this problem.

Throw Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner into a volcano.

 

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 00:57 | 6194856 cherry picker
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Sorry, it only works with virgin females, the volcano thing I mean.

Last time I checked the sacrifice list to get life back to normal I didn't see anything other than young virgins listed.  That is another reason Jihad is so popular as the young guys think there will be virgins in heaven as we sacrifice so many.

The Volcano Gods may get pissed if Jenner was thrown in as a substitute.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 02:23 | 6194904 SmedleyButlersGhost
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Technically - isn't CaItlyn a virgin? You can't tell me someone hit that. But yea - Volcano gods woulD be pissed.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 10:10 | 6195284 btdt
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hymen reconstruction is a popular procedure around the world. caity can have a first expeience over and over.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 20:00 | 6196496 Buster Cherry
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thats just gross

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 20:11 | 6196512 Buster Cherry
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Might be worth the wrath to throw Nancy Pelosi in there.

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 23:53 | 6194788 natty light
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Is this the Saudi America they were talking about.

Sat, 06/13/2015 - 23:53 | 6194789 foxmuldar
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If California hadn't become the go to state for Illegal aliens, perhaps the total population of the state wouldn't be that large and much less water would be consumed. Now illegals will be able to get free healthcare. I guess that means free water as well as long as the supply of water lasts.

My thought about a shortage of water might seem draconian but if we can have a Keystone pipeline to transport oil from Canada, then why not a cross country pipeline that would be used to pump water from places that are flooded. Imagine the recent floods in Texas and how much of that water could have been pumped to Farmers in California. Ofc a fee would be required to pay texas or other areas that sustain floods or even areas where there is an ample supply of water to send some of the reserve supply to places where its needed. So instead of $60 a barrel oil, why not lets say $30 a barrel for water. Or whatever would be a reasonable price to pay. This way the flooded areas would be receiving funds to rebuild while the areas in need would receive that much needed water. Areas that are prone to flooding, would benefit from a pipe and pumping system that would pump the flood waters to drought stricken states.  Water is perhaps the most precious commodity so why not put a price on it and start the pipe line. Plus all those jobs that would be created building the lines.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 10:48 | 6195346 TurdOnTheRun
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the "illegal aliens" allowed you to live your comfy life. They "sneaked" across the wide open boarder and immediately found jobs working for Fortune 1000 companies for less than minium wage. Then Regan granted about 10 million citizenship so another 10 million had to "sneak in" to work for cash at less than minium wage. It is economic slave labor. When they get sick they get health care paid by the tax payers. They open bank accounts, buy cars, food, electronics, houses. Think about it.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 00:06 | 6194811 DipshitMiddleCl...
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so glad i left that fucking shithole and headed back east

 

when the water finally runs out, alot of these liberals and fags are going to get slaughtered by the mestizo and negro populations there. its going to be outright hell and i'd hate to be the one driving through the mojave at night on the run from a bunch of bandits 

 

i was driving through the high desert there last month and thought to myself on my way out of the communist state that if the water runs out...this place would be like fucking mad max.

 

head east?? more like head north to montana and idaho lol..but those guys up there dont want any liberal jew fags, mestizos or negros in their communities 

 

they're aryan up there and they want to keep it that way

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 08:47 | 6195166 Niall Of The Ni...
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Yeah, well. The liberals and fags will move on, leaving ordinary white Californians to be slaughtered, while the libs write books about how capitalism is to blame.

Being a liberal is only an option to people who never have to face the consequences of their actions.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 00:34 | 6194831 TheGreatRecovery
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I don't think the fish caused the water shortage.  I think the population increase from 3 million to 39 million caused the water shortage.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 03:22 | 6194953 zebrasquid
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Below average precipitation over the last several years has more than something to do with it.

Mon, 06/15/2015 - 10:19 | 6197685 TheGreatRecovery
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SAFETY FACTORS!  If climate change can kill you with drought, then climate change is a variable you must include in your planning, and therefore climate change becomes a reason NOT to let your population bloat up from 3 million to 39 million, where you have no SAFETY FACTOR left.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 01:39 | 6194887 jack stephan
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my salsa dancing mother god rest her worked for said "water company"  between cadillac desert movies about mulholland and explanations about how cali constantly need importation, she said the days were numbered. 

 

that was in 2010.  if you miss that you are blind, like if you miss milfy diamond foxx blind and after that well..... then you are a blind man.  Diamond foxx is hot and unavoidable.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GA-K5GvX7o

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 03:31 | 6194961 Lin S
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Well there went 3 minutes of my life I can't get back.

No hot femmes that I saw, just an untalented white douche who seems to aspire to be black.

Fail.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 03:43 | 6194968 Lin S
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In just a short time I've stopped caring.

My vote [sic] doesn't count, so I don't participate.

My taxes are wasted on socialism for foreigners who shouldn't be here, so I don't pay.

My falsely so-called leaders don't respond to my concerns, so ignore everything they say.

California can dessicate into powder and blow away for all I care anymore.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 03:44 | 6194969 Batman11
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Start planning for the future - California as a tourist attraction like Angkor Wat and Chichen Itza.

Civilizations fade and die, it's the way of things.

Tourism comes next.

 

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 04:11 | 6194982 asfffasfff
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now you can create your own israel in california

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 04:36 | 6195003 Firewood
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Keep on fracking in the "free" world...

 

"God's country" is fukked and the rest of the planet is rejoicing

 

NEIL YOUNG LYRICS

 

"Rockin' In The Free World"

There's colors on the street
Red, white and blue
People shufflin' their feet
People sleepin' in their shoes
But there's a warnin' sign
on the road ahead
There's a lot of people sayin'
we'd be better off dead
Don't feel like Satan,
but I am to them
So I try to forget it,
any way I can.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdiCJUysIT0

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 04:43 | 6195006 scatha
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Another unenforceable PR stunt. It has been tried before in 2010 with no results as it will be now. One must understand that California politics is water politics , just watch Polanski's "China Town" movie, similar things are happening now too.

Situation is bad but not catastrophic yet but clearly instigated by entrenched state and Wall Street interests.

For honest take on the whole affair read:

https://sostratusworks.wordpress.com/2015/03/28/california-waterworld-of...

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 05:49 | 6195045 kareninca
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Okay, I am putting this at the end of the thread as a public service to those who might not have seen my replies above.

WARM TAP WATER IS NOT SAFE TO DRINK.

IT CONTAINS LEAD and other toxic minerals.

CHILLING LEAD-FILLED TAP WATER DOES NOT MAKE IT SAFE TO DRINK.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/29/health/29real.html

http://www.cdc.gov/nceh/lead/tips/water.htm

http://www.berkeleywellness.com/healthy-eating/food-safety/article/hot-t...

I cannot fucking believe that nine people upvoted the suggestion that warm tap water be refrigerated and then consumed.

Lead poisoning must abound among ZH readers.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 06:06 | 6195059 Arnold
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Most of your bottled water is warm tap water as well.

It's a deep subject.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 06:11 | 6195061 kareninca
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for those who prefer the EPA:  http://water.epa.gov/drink/info/lead/lead1.cfm ("Flush your pipes before drinking, and only use cold water for cooking and drinking.")

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 09:44 | 6195247 bugs_
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Mixing cold tap water with "treated" grey water would also warm it up.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 10:04 | 6195268 Anopheles
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If you live in a house build after 1986, then there is no problem with lead.   That's when Lead Free plumbing (solder) was mandated.  

Older houses might have a tiny bit of lead that seeped in from solder joints.   If your water is hard, and you get lime deposits on your taps, then lead leaching from the solder joints is not a problem.  If you live in an area with naturally soft water, then that water will leach out more lead.

As for cold water?  All they mean is to let the water in your pipes run until the water gets cold.   This means that water sitting in your pipes has been flushed out and you are getting a "fresh" supply from the watermain on the street, or from your well. 

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 07:20 | 6195056 Lea
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"NASA data reveal that total water storage in California has been in steady decline since at least 2002, when satellite-based monitoring began, although groundwater depletion has been going on since the early 20th century."

Of course, they only wake up now, and only to demand their rights to a non-existant water should be upheld.

I mean, how can you be so wanting in foresight ? Zee guys are even planting stone fruit trees (apricot) that ALL require substantial amounts of high quality water (whatever that means) for fruit size. See page 3.
http://ucanr.edu/datastoreFiles/391-603.pdf

"A recent Field Poll showed that 94% of Californians surveyed believe that the drought is serious, and that one-third support mandatory rationing."

All in all, they would all agree on rationing their neighbor. Bunch of losers.

There are desert irrigation systems that have worked for centuries. Stop being at each other's throats, dump attorneys, only plant dry-climate crops and LEARN THEM.
http://www.unep.org/geo/gdoutlook/039.asp

 

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 08:50 | 6195171 Duude
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No problem, illegal aliens.  Construction has been ramping up in California and apparently the state and Federal government doesn't think Americans want those jobs either.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 09:11 | 6195199 Last of the Mid...
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first they take your water . . .

 

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 09:15 | 6195206 man of Wool
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Can't some of the local indians do a rain dance or something. It might work.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 10:08 | 6195274 Duc888
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Knowing how climate pattenrs are (not like there's no records out there) and knowing how damned important food crops to the California economy, FUCK CALIFORNIA.  How many years has CA pissed away Billions of dollars by importing poverty from Messico?

 

How much thought was put into place over the last 30+ years to have a back-up plan for potable water.  DESAL plant(s) anyone? 

 

No sympathy here.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 11:28 | 6195406 yellowsub
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They don't need to irradiate the water at least...

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 10:41 | 6195327 TurdOnTheRun
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Trgovcich and Howard are staff not the board. Farmers can request a hearing by the board and/or seek immediate relief in court, but must exhaust the administrative process (hearing).

Funny how a family has run its farm for 100 years (50 years before the SWRCB existed) and now the government tries to take away someones rights.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 10:49 | 6195350 Your Creator
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They'll have to start recycling piss soon.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 11:01 | 6195368 uhb
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I call all of that 100% BS.

As long as there are no meters installed & water use is neither controlled nor enforced, who gives a f4cking sh1t?????????

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 11:34 | 6195417 CHC
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Ignorant government bureaucrats.  They don't have a clue what they're doing.  Just let that farmland languish and go arid and you'll lose it for years - many years if not forever.  Oil over FOOD?!  Seriously?!?

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 13:33 | 6195652 fishwharf
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I live near Sacramento.  My once beautiful green lawn is brown.

Let's blame the Jews.

Mon, 06/15/2015 - 17:51 | 6199743 Abbie Normal
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Lawns are for sheep.

Sun, 06/14/2015 - 13:40 | 6195674 F em all but 6
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Note to Californians. No water? Move. preferably west.

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!