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Saudi Warplanes Destroy 2,500 Year Old Heritage Site In Yemen
When ISIS militants took control of the ancient Syrian city of Palmyra last month, observers feared the world was set to lose a treasure of antiquity. The city, which houses ruins that date back thousands of years, is a UNESCO world heritage site. Historians say its destruction would represent a tragic defeat in the effort to preserve the cultural heritage not just of the Middle East, but of modern civilization itself.
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On Friday, the proxy wars that, thanks in large part to US foreign policy, now plague the Middle East, took their toll on another UNESCO heritage site when Saudi warplanes decimated Old City, a 2,500 year-old collection of homes, towers, gardens, mosques, and public baths in the Yemeni capital of Sana’a.
NY Times has more:
A protected 2,500-year-old cultural heritage site in Yemen’s capital, Sana, was obliterated in an explosion early Friday, and witnesses and news reports said the cause was a missile or bomb from a Saudi warplane. The Saudi military denied responsibility.
The top antiquities-safeguarding official at the United Nations angrily condemned the destruction of ancient multistory homes, towers and gardens, which also killed an unspecified number of residents in Al Qasimi, a neighborhood in Sana’s Old City area.
“I am profoundly distressed by the loss of human lives as well as the damage inflicted on one of the world’s oldest jewels of Islamic urban landscape,” said the official, Irina Bokova, the director general of Unesco, the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization...
“This heritage bears the soul of the Yemeni people; it is a symbol of a millennial history of knowledge, and it belongs to all humankind,” Ms. Bokova said.
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And not a peep about the christians being beheaded.
Really? Seems like we hear about it all the time.
Not from the Tylers,we don't.
The mass murders of ISIS always get a pass.
Are you suggesting that Israeli Secret Intelligence Service has them in their pocket or something?
Still looks better than Detroit. Just look at it as instant urban renewal. Opens up space for a McDonalds, a Starbucks and an Apple store.
The tragedy is that that the majority of ‘mericans don’t have a freaking clue about anything that is really important..
and I don’t mean just some old buildings.
These particular buildings are not all the important. The lives are marginally important - no more so than any others, no less. What is important is that 99.999999% of people have no idea who they really are. Without that knowledge nothing else matters.
Screw the buildings. It's time to start saving Christians from an early grave. Muslims will be the death of us all.
Assad Muslim soldiers are fighting with the Christians against the freedom loving rebels which include ISIS
No religious percecution for Christians in Assads Syria, no percecution for Christians in Saddams Iraq - obviously they are/were oppressed but not more than others....and now after they were liberated?
Hez
Assad Muslim soldiers are fighting with the Christians against the freedom loving rebels which include ISIS
No religious percecution for Christians in Assads Syria, no percecution for Christians in Saddams Iraq - obviously they are/were oppressed but not more than others....and now after they were liberated?
I was going to say just call it Camden
Amazing how 0.2% of the worlds population can be blamed by so many for all the ills of the world....
Please do tell, troll...who made ISIS? Once you do some research and figure it out, please come back and post.
Bomb that shit and bomb those sand nigger goat fucking pieces of shit while were at it.. What would general Patton do?
Lets get it on like mother fucking donkey kong bitchez.. what the fuck you all waiting for a back seat to WWIII...?
I can tell by the votes people have not found their backbone yet. When your women are getting raped daily you'll get religion. If you do not think this is happening google 'sweden women raped' and look into it. You will learn the solution is an AC-130 gunship and alot of weapons and some heavy armanent
Stop being fucking pussies and start being real men ffs... Are you men or are you women? WWIII is coming and do the good Lord a service cause a lot of people need killing and that is just the way it is..
Man you guns cause its coming...
Focus on the puppeteers, not the puppets, lower-level psychopaths following orders. If there's one thing you can count on, it's that psychopaths will readily stab each other in the back rather than take responsibility for their own actions. Once again, a lot of mid-level scumbags are about to be confronted with the dark truth of their own expendability. PAPER TRAIL + MULTIPLE BACKUPS, BITCHEZ.
Backbone?
The western governments - YOUR governments - created the ISIS beast. The money is funneled to them via the CIA, NATO, 5-Eyes countries, etc. Your tax dollars provide them with AKs and Nike sneakers.
Start paying attention before you start spouting off.
You'll find the brits served up their trash women to the goatherders in much higher numbers than the swedes.
Google it. Rotherham , North of England - with socialist blessing thousands were soiled.
Defending feminist whore (aka modern "woman") from them ?
Those same women who don't need men coz they are empowered ?
Screw that mangina retard.
I go Galt.
Those dress wearing Saudi's peadophiles will feel the force of Allah when an IE takes out the odd Rolls Royce or 2.
Patton would likely suggest that our first move would be to expel Zionists from the government. They can fuck off to Britain or Israel like the cockroaches who raped Russia in the 90s...
Are you sure about that kaiserhoff? I recall seeing an entry or two about it here and there on ZH.
Of course, this being a blog-like-thing about markets and such...
If you are reading ZH because you want to see the same news you see everywhere else, you are a fucking idiot.
some behead, others drop bombs to blow up the whole body. The later being quicker and much more impersonal, acceptable. Some just happened to live there...and...then they don't. Some psychological switch happens in the Christian mind, preventing them from never wondering how such a benevolent religion could blend with such malevolents.
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
in fairness, there's never a peep about arson and other attacks on churches and monastaries by Jews in Palestine and in Israel proper, either.
[Similar demands have been made by Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox Christian leaders, just about all the Catholics, as in Lebanon, are Eastern Rite rather than Latin/Roman - about 10% of Catholics worldwide]
If they kill any of the country's few dozen Jews, it will be on the front page of the Times.
And, not that it matters, but like the Ashkenazi - they were for the most part converts:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Himyarite_Kingdom#From_300_until_the_adven...
An entry quite obviously put together by one of Wikipedia's ziohasbarats.
And on a related note, the neocons continue on their relentless quest for war . . .
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/14/world/europe/us-poised-to-put-heavy-we...
I cannot believe they have let Putin get away with using Iraqi WMD to sink the Lusitania at Pearl Harbor on 9/11.
Nuke them all, including US, DC that is.
Are you crazy?
You are saying that they have a
POLITICAL arm - generally bribing and funding jollies to kibbutz for 80% of senators
MEDIA arm - to promote MC and isreal first ideas
BANKING arm - to loot in peace while the first 2 do their job.
No, i don't believe a word.
"And not a peep about the christians being beheaded."
Cause that's not raycist. ONLY when whites do it to other races, does it become rayciss.
No mention that this is all old testament/torah, written and believed by Jews, of course.
Now, the Southern Evangelicals/Cult of Death that centers its theology on Israel and the Old Testament deserves all the scorn they get and more - but to forever stop short of the logical thing, and applying the "old testament" hate to those who wrote it and still reference it to "prove" their deed to Palestine, proves Voltaire was right...
I wonder how many "Christian" Zionists ever actually read a book of the Torah, then read, say, the Gospel of Mark.
Not only not the same g0d - but fucking obvious opposites.
''This blog summarizes the numerous episodes of genocide committed by Britain in its perfidious and ongoing ambition to maintain its imperialist grip on the indigenous world. For too long the world has been duped by the treacherous and viperous anglosphere which eagerly points their blood-stained finger at demonized foreign (i.e. non-white) individuals and groups to conceal their own massive, unsurpassed and unpunished crimes against humanity.''
http://worldsworstmassmurderer.blogspot.com.au/2012/03/britain-worlds-wo...
People are confused because they don't make a distinction between the Debt-Money Monopolist CONTROLLERS of a country and the ordinary people in that country.
When people say "Britain," the average person thinks of the entire country, not domestic and foreign Debt-Money Monopolists that make up less than 0.001% of the polution.
Now, WHO benefits when "Britain" is blamed for the actions of the Debt-Money Monopolists?
PS - the ordinary British citizen is being screwed by the Debt-Money Monopolists that run Britain.
PSS - the average Jewish person is being screwed by the Debt-Money Monopolists that run Israel and every country subjected to its Debt-Money Tyranny.
PSSS - please THINK ABOUT WORDS before repeating the ideas of others... mostly financed by the Debt-Money Monopoly themselves.
AngloZionist: Short primer for the newcomersNo real Christian can base their faith on the OLD TESTAMENT. Christianity, by definition, is based on the NEW TESTAMENT. There is a world of difference betwixt the two.
Do not let us get started on the definitions of words therein nor even the words included/excluded thereof.
Fancy old timey words make me warm inside (used propertly or perhaps not).
Fortunately, nobody important was hurt or killed.
What we need to do is make sure a "banker" lives in the neighborhood and then we'll be safe.
When was the last time a banker was actually killed in a terrorist attack? Considering the number of bankers in the world the odds have to be pretty incredible.
These 6/11 air strikes by the Saudis are typical, the Saudi form of Islam believes in destruction of all false idols (which the evil head chopping Saudis decide). So on 9/11 some years back, the Saudis teamed with Bush to demolish the World Trade Center buildings. The WTC buildings' Moorish design was anathema to the Saudis. As in Sana'a case, down those iconic Manhattan buildings went. The Pentagon attack by cruise missile was an add-on by Rumsfeld, to bump off those Army accountants who had accidentally uncovered a multi-billion dollar theft ring being run from the Pentagon by New World Order-type crossroaders.
As you well know, the Saudis provided the patsies, Cheney and the Joint Chiefs provided the norad exercise/missing generals/stand down, and the Israelis and sayanim did most of the rest.
And Rumsfeld didn't order shit. Man was a half senile jackass.
And the money was stolen by dual citizen and rabi Dov Zakheim, formerly of a company involved in remote control plane technology... likely like the jet, not the cruise missile, that slammed into the pentagon.
Cruise missile would not have knocked down all those telephone poles, son.
The effort to throw the House of Saud under the bus while leaving the Israeli involvement out of it may have worked pre-internet. But it's not going to work now.
Tell ya friends.
This tells you how far we've come in 2,500 years.
Which is, sadly, a very true statement. The veneer of "civilization" is indeed thin.
We are entering Dante’s Inferno...
Inscription at the entrance to Hell
Abandon hope all ye who enter here.
Through me you pass into the city of woe:
Through me you pass into eternal pain:
Through me among the people lost for aye.
Ahhh UNESCO.
In its education program, [UNESCO ] can stress the ultimate need for world political unity and familiarize all peoples with the implications of the transfer of full sovereignty from separate nations to a world organization...Political unification in some sort of world government will be required.ii
http://amazingdiscoveries.org/S-deception_Muller_Huxley_UNESCO_education
Where do the madmen come from who kill and destroy and butcher the innocents? Well, some of their supporters are with us today on Zero Hedge and thanks to the disappointing up-front, up-and-down ZH system of drawing in the trolls, kids and fools, they are able to secretly voice their support for the tragedies by clicking on an arrow.
ISIS, a U.S./Zionist creation, in March destroyed much of the beginnings of the world's civilizations around Nineveh which had stood for 2,700 years and filmed the bulldozing. We will rue the day we allowed the Zionists to take over America’s foreign policy with their history of centuries and centuries of butchery. Only, now, they control the arsenal of a superpower.
+1000
But have heart.
In the long run, you, are on the right side.
Thanks, Counterpunch. And God help us! We are up against a philosophy of hatred.
It is not anti-Semitic to say that American government, its cultural institutions including entertainment, media, and education are so controlled by Zionism that any criticism of Jews is grounds for firing from a job or worse. The true followers of Christ are under fire from this lockdown on American culture, from overturning traditional marriage to opening up cesspools of pornography, abortion, atheism and euthanasia. There’s a difference between the godless humanism of the Zionists and the American culture, but is there an actual difference in the people themselves? The Jews say 'yes.' In fact, these are the words of the Lubavitcher Rebbe, Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson:
“We do not have a case of profound change in which a person is merely on a superior level. Rather we have a case of…a totally different species… the body of a Jewish person is of a totally different quality form the body of [members] of all nations of the world…The difference of the inner quality [of the body],…is so great that the bodies would be considered as completely different species. This is the reason why the Talmud states that there is an halachic difference in attitude about the bodies of non-Jews [as opposed to the bodies of Jews], ‘their bodies are in vain’….. An even greater difference exists in regard to the soul. Two contrary types of soul exist; a non-Jewish soul comes from three satanic spheres, while the Jewish soul stems from holiness.” (In I. Shahak & N. Mezvinsky 1999, 59-60)
thank you JR, thank you Counterpunch. ++
Thanks again Counterpunch and JR... A large minority of Americans must first learn what you stated about Jewish control of institutions. Until then, expect more of the same.
If you want to manipulate the world for your own future, you can always eliminate your enemies past. Standard operations, wipe out all traces of indigenous culture, than its easy to eliminate or evict people later, since they never existed in the first place.
While I appreciate your feelings about ISIS and all of that, rest assured, they have not even scratched any of the beginnings of the world's civilizations. Nineveh (sic) not withstanding. You need to realize that there were civilizations on earth well before we, in the current age, can even begin to define. They say that things (like life, economics, and numerology) are cyclical. If so, then the same for civilizations.
Cycles always end. This time is no different. It is okay. It is not your fault. All roads led to this anyway. It had to be and it will be.
Saudis and their black cube worshiping death cult
It's just some rock that Muhammad found, believed/claimed that it fell from the sky and further believed/claimed that it was from 'God' himself.
Joseph Smith did something similar with his Golden Tablets.
Moses started it all...
There have got to be millions of Catholic relics. Everything from complete corpses to pieces of cloth touched to a bone not to mention the occasional piece of the true cross.
What's tragic is that so many people still fall for the institutional bullshit. Where in the Bible does it say anything about peddling relics or building cathedrals? The early church got hijacked by perverts and psychopaths.
+100
The Holy Book is very specific regarding the worship of relics and other idols.
hole-y maybe. Your bible says a lot of crazy shit. Thank goodness even you bibliomancers don't take it all literally.
Boy, you're fast with the punches. Typically 'Merican - first shoot, then ask questions...
I don't take the Bible, nor anything else in life, at face value. Instead I think of it as an anthology of human thought teaching about high moral values. Learning to adopt and live by small practical truths that it contains can only give a certain quality to your existence...
Even Tyler agrees with the Second Commandment
No True Cross of Jesus, Reverend Billy.
None of the commandments given to Moses would cause anyone any harm. Not all supposed messages from God are equal.
Please note that the first commandment was from God to man. It was not from man to man. This matters when you consider the ramifications of one's personal actions. You nor I are God. We are not given to enforce God's law, only follow it. We cause no harm this way.
And yet...
A funny thing happens to people when they believe they know a Creator exists, and also, what It wants.
It's tough to read Deuteronomy and come away thinking anything other than the Old Testament/Torah sanctifies violence more than it condemns it.
It is simple - God is created in man's image. By that I mean the elite create a mythical entity that justifies their actions at that time.
the Old Testament/Torah sanctifies violence...
The "violence" described and recounted in the 2nd book of law was / is in response to previous violent actions perpetrated by governments that continued and took up residency in the land Jacob’s family left when they moved to Egypt 400 years earlier. Granted, these initial acts of violence were not necessarily directed toward Moses and the ~2 million souls that passed through the Red Sea, but were directed toward one another and the innocent children in their midst, (making their ‘children pass through the fire’). Furthermore, it's taught in no uncertain terms that the Israelites were not being given Canaan because of their own goodness, but because of the wickedness of those already there.
The theocracy of the time was unique in the annals of time as there was nothing like it before, nor is there anything like it today, nor will there be. It was a tool used by God for a specific time and place. It remains to this day as a historical verity and “schoolmaster” for the Christian church, and when studied, it reveals the curses that befall any governmental structure that attempts to misappropriate and assume the virtues of Diety, i.e. the dispensers of Faith, Hope and Love as their own.
The remaining books of the prophets show how this group of "chosen" people fell into the same practices of these evil kingdoms and worse by illicitly mixing the purity of proper Creator worship with politics, commerce, (syncretism) and ultimately self-supremacy creature / creation worship, resulting in their ultimate destruction in 70ad by Rome and casting to the winds any possibility to claim legal descendency to Jacob.
The US founders had it right it establishing a separation between state and church for it’s as inappropriate to allow the Church to administer the coinage of money, exercise the “power of the sword”, etc., as it was for the king to offer sacrifices on the altar, or currently to promote any elected officer as a benefactor in promising eternal bliss in exchange for your vote.
Jmo.
Absolutely correct, Boxed Merlot!
You get it.
Understanding the Old Testament requires understanding the realities of life in those times.
PS- For those who haven't figured it out yet- Counterpunch is a Muslim Agent Provocateur and Disinformation Agent, nothing more, nothing less.
Hm. As for Saudis, I hear lately it is the bottle that they worship most. Just like in the down and out west.
One thing it does prove is the close relationship between Israel and the Saudis. Most all of the ancient sites that have been destroyed have been Muslin. It no different from what is happening to the White Christian European culture in America under the close relationship between Israel and the U.S. Congress.
Repeal the 17th ( and all the others over 10) and ban dual citizenships altogether.
You are either one of us or you are one of them. Pick or gtfo.
What was in that 20 x 20 x 20 cubit dark holy of holies room behind the veil again? Oh right, a black cube exposed when the veil was ripped, wasn't nothing else in it. Oh looky, the 911 memorial has a perfect inverted cube with water fallin into it. Nice, they even have you walk around it in a circular fashion exactly like those crazy muslums. Only difference is most of us don't even know your duped into worshiping it.
Stanley Kubrick knew, when that black square rock showed up the monkeys all went ape, killing each other.
What ?!?!?! Crap that was on the top of my bucketlist for historic sites to visit that are located in shitty third world countries that will have me killed just for being American. Oh well......
The whole thing is bull shit. Only geometric forms. Standard Muslim construction. No representation of people, animals, or much of anything else.
Now if some small parts of the foundations are 2500 years old..., maybe, but how many structures have been there since?
Who are you to judge what is nice and what isn't? I daresay this is you being biased because they are muslims. You know what Europeans were building 2500 years ago? Well not much besides some Greek Temples...also only gemoetric forms.
Dude, there was no such thing as Islam until the seventh century, and it took a few centuries for them to murder everyone in Arabia who disagreed with them. Take off you shoes. Count on your fingers and toes, and DO THE MAFF!
Anyway, I like tits, not damn fool squiggles;)
You were the one to say standard "Muslim structure" not me, so I guess it's you who should do the math. Because the houses clearly are pre-Islam era. I am just saying that you are not the one to decide what is nice and what isn't based on tastes. For Yemen these houses may represent a symbol of national pride as much pride as your lousy white house or statue of liberty.
And good for you!
A mind is a terrible thing, not to have.
I hope you do better in whatever tongue you were whelped in, but I see no reason to believe that.
You see no reason whatsoever.
It's also useless, as Jesus said, to throw pearls before swine, they will trample them under their fee, and turn and tear you to pieces.
Regardless...FYI:
"With its long sea border between early civilizations, Yemen has long existed at a crossroads of cultures with a strategic location in terms of trade on the west of the Arabian Peninsula. Large settlements for their era existed in the mountains of northern Yemen as early as 5000 BC.[3] Little is known about ancient Yemen and how exactly it transitioned from nascent Bronze Age civilizations to more trade-focused caravan kingdoms. This may be due to social or official discouragement of research into pre-Islamic civilizations in Arabia…"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Yemen
I don't know who "everyone in Arabia who disagreed with them" means, but According to Wikipedia, the "Diaspora" was done by Roman Emperor Hadrian in 135 CE (AD?), which is before Mohammed was born. In the movie "The Kingdom of God", the Muslims allowed Jews and Christians to worship God in their own way, and it was the Knights Templar (the Roman Catholic Church) which went around killing people who didn't worship God their way. I understand that Mohamed had no problem with Judaism or Christianity, but was focused on the replacing the tribal gods of the Arabs with Allah, who was the same god as God or Jehovah. Also, Mohamed was just not interested in anyone else but Arabs. He was focused on Arabs.
I call baloney on the oft-repeated propaganda "Muslims hate Christians and Jews".
re sensibile remark.
@thegreatrecovery
I take it you've never heard of Dhimmi law? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhimmi
Can't believe I'm reading someone who's defending Jihad against the crusades on Zerohedge: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X04K18ThAE
But hey this site has been going downhill for some time now.
Blabam,
Thanks. I think that backs up what I am saying. Dhimmi law sounds quite "liberal" and "respectful" to me. Very smart and productive. Much better than the law the Crusaders practiced.
I don't know what "some time" means, but I don't see so much difference between ZH now and ZH many moons ago, before ZH changed its website or whatever it did.
Newgrange, Skara Brae, and Stonehendge, amongst others, suggest otherwise, preceding the Pyramids.
Pre-IndoEuropean migrations, sure, but still European.
Few know that the Irish {and Gaelic Scots} are, after Ashkenazi Jews, the most likely to get Tay Sachs disease.
This isn't because the Irish are Jews [Ireland was settled, and megaliths built well before there were Hebrews or Israelites] but because both share pre-Indo genetic heritage. The Khazar thing is partially true but wsy overstated - very little linguistic or archaeological evidence support major Khazar genetic influence, but a lot from pre-Indo Europe and the area around what is now the Republic of Georgia. Second study below has been cited re Khazar influence, but while the researcher may be a fine geneticist, if you read the actual study, you'll see why the better reading is Caucasus origin -mostly because there are no Khazars to test, and they were likely a mix of Turks, Mongols, and other peoples anyway.
false.
I agree, fuck history, its so old fashion. Maybe we can now build something really old on that foundation?
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
you might be, more or less, pretty much right about that.
http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/385
Last month, the Saudis bombed the Queen of Sheba's hilltop palace in Saba, Yemen. All parts of the foundation, the walls and everything else was 2,500 years old. It was a museum - nothing was built on top of it and there was no military presence there. It was done intentionally to punish Yemenis.
Right after that, they bombed the ancient Kingdom of Sheba's Great Dam of Ma'rib - the historic ruins of a 2,800 year old dam that was one of the largest known in the world it it's day. 15m high and 600m long, hand-build from brick. Eighth wonder of the world, by some accounts.
Zero military value for either site - these were aerial bombardments intended to destroy historic sites, just like ISIS loves to do. Saudi Arabia - ISIS? No difference.
I hope the Yemenis march from one end of Saudi Arabia to the other, kill the royalty and rich and burn every last oil well to the ground. In fact, the U.S. should pay the Yemenis to do that and give them all the tanks and rockets they need to clean house. But only after we dust off a few B-52s and carpet-bomb the shit out of the former Kingdom of Saudi Arabia around the clock for a couple of months, first.
It's truly despicable what Saudi Arabia is doing, not that it was to the least surprising. The west shares some guilt because instead of condeming the attacks one hears nothing obviously or just some muted response from Unesco. I sure hope to live to see the day the palace in Riyadh stands in flames!
Thanks anyway for providing us with more details, I'll look up the places.
The west shares some guilt because instead of condeming the attacks one hears nothing obviously or just some muted response from Unesco.
Agreed. But perhaps it runs deeper, as the effects of WW1 have played a major role in Geo-Politics for the last 80+ years. Who was the beneficiary of the fall of the Ottoman Empire? I wonder....
Seems very Israeli of them - trying to denigrate the cultural history of other peoples because their own is so largely myth, lie, and exaggeration.
Maybe the House of Saud really is Donmeh... conversos...secretly Jewish...
Paveway,
In fact, the U.S. should pay the Yemenis to do that and give them all the tanks and rockets they need to clean house. But only after we dust off a few B-52s and carpet-bomb the shit out of the former Kingdom of Saudi Arabia around the clock for a couple of months,
Dude the Saudi's are the U.S.'s boys. Look up the 74 Kissinger/Saudi pact. All Saudi petrodollars are to be recycled into Western Banks and into Western markets. CAPICHE. This is the petrodollar standard.
In return, Saudi's get to Cartelize, the Kingdom gets Sanctioned, and they get Western Military Gear. Along with Western military gear is Navy presence to insure transhipment, as well as security guarantees.
Nuke the pyramids too, while you're at it.
Fucking mongoloid.
Hope they got the guy they were after.
Yes, because the only heritage allowed in the middle east will be the one concocted by the khazars and their terrorist state of israel.
Much of the mythology of Christianity is a rehash of an older and even more transparent fabrication – Judaism.
Jew Story – The Way of the Rabbi
The Israelites did not come from Egypt – a palpable myth – but emerged from the local population. There was no ancient 'Jewish Empire': the Jewish priests drew their inspiration from the empire of the Assyrians and "Judaism" was a reaction to the loss of the northern kingdom and an instructive period spent in Babylon. Yahweh, the god fashioned by the Jews, was a brutal tyrant, a being with a humanoid personality and a disturbing blood-lust. Say hello to G-D!
With God's blessing, misogynistic Jewish scribes encoded a raft of sex crimes which sanctified racial ambition. The sacred mission was to populate and subdue the earth. Judaism bequeathed its unfortunate mix of ignorance and intolerance to a wayward faction of heretics known to the world as Christians.
Jerusalem in 10th century BC had been barely a village of huts and cave dwellings. Kings David and Solomon are purely mythical characters – warrior/priest heroes, invented in the 6th century BC. Temples on the Mount? From "Threshing Floor" to "Noble Sanctuary". Persians and Greeks bearing gifts. Herod's Temple - Fact or Fantasy? Temple of Jupiter – Biggest and Best? Herod vs. Hadrian. Herod's trademark city of Caesarea actually owes more to Hadrian than it does to the Jewish king.
Herod the Great was a real king – but he did not massacre any babies. He was an astute and successful ruler. The Herodians and the Jewish elite became Romanised but religious fanatics led an armed resistance which ended in catastrophes under Titus, Trajan, and Hadrian.
In the aftermath, a collaborationist revision of Judaism, later attributed to a 13th apostle "Paul", allegedly of impeccable Pharisaic credentials, competed fiercely with a reconstituted rabbinic Judaism which fused piety with mercantile success.
And in Christianity there is plenty of Zoroaster as well--ancient northern Afghan style.
Oddly enough, just a hint of Buddhist missionaries who were probably hanging around the middle east by then.
See the Chapter Adonis, Attis, Osiris in Sir James Frazer's The Golden Bough.
To this day archeologists cannot find the 1st Temple, King David's fort/palace, temple and royal grounds. More likely that he was a Tribal Chief, if he was real at all. His six-sided star was borrowed from the Greeks, who used it earlier than he did.
God's "Rainbow" for Noah goes way, as a basic natural phenomenon, going back Billions of years ago.
The "Arc of the Covenant", if real and as 'powerful' and from YHWH/Elohim* at all, mysteriously vanished in about 500-600 BC, and has not been seen since.
* A warrior desert god, worshiped by a subset of Hebrews
What is most remarkable about the ancient Hebrews/Jews, or the modern 'Jews', is how they are able to (a) maintain Continuity century after century, and (b) how they are able to re-Invent themselves with every adversity, setback or defeat. Their belief and their 'Deity' (even if conjured/imagined, or an anthropomorphic story about crash-landed Aliens and their Captain-God who took a small tribe under their tutelage), teaches them to Stick Together, Work Together, Persevere against all enemies and odds, and to Rule over all others.
It's the total opposite of its spin-off -- Christianity -- which is a religious product that was largely a morphed and repackaged by the Romans in 325, at the Council of Nicaea.
Here's an interesting clip that will enlighten you: A History of God (Part 1)
thanks, havent seen the clip, but I've read a few of Armstrong's books - great stuff.
Wish I could give you more than 1 upvote. Any group which sticks together, and works together, and moves when necessary, and keeps hold of its own finances, and then works to get control of other finances wherever it lands, ought to survive. The mythology simply provides a number of reminders throughout the year that you have what you have because you worked together. Any mythology will do.
you survive, but you tend to wear out your welcome.
you also tend to denigrate the lives of 99% of the human race.
Agreed.
Yeah, I'm sure it would.
There are temple sites they will never tell us about, yet easily researched. Elephantine and Tel Arad. Elephantine was disassembled and hidden quite recently, the 1800's. Start looking at the Phonecians, they are connected, even the book tells us Hiram built the temple, and he was King of Tyre, capitol of Phonecia. Hooked on Phonics yet, don't you wonder who really gave you your language. We're stuck with so many words that are pure jew-el's. The ancient hebrew and phonecian alphebets are interchangable.
Makes you wonder about the whole scam of killing all those caananites down to the pets upon entering the land, another grand sacrafice and martardom of their own, where have we seen that story play out before?
I'm tempted to just tell you to fuck off with your Jew hatred but instead I will simply say that you have no evidence for ANY of the crap you polluted this thread with.
Now I'll yield to temptation and tell you to go fuck off.
No evidence, huh?
In all those links, nothing rises to the level of evidence?
Nothing was right? Not the age of Newgrange, not the lack of evidence for a Davidic empire {how does one prove a negative, by the way? How do I prove dragons do not exist to people who believe they do because they believe God wrote a book highlighting the varied ancient achievements of dragons?}
Go ahead and prove anything incorrrect, false or unfair. If you can do so, I will apologize and retract.
If you can't - I'll know you are a liar.
Funny how no criticism of Christianity or Islam gets " - hatred " hurled at you, but when one strips away the mythos of Judaism, you lot come out of the woodwork.
As for actual hate - I don't consider any religion which generated, say, Deuteronomy chapter 7, and which holds it as sacred, worthy of anything but contempt.
Why do you?
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What great wisdom you share with us all Counterpunch. We must all learn and then follow your wonderous infinite teachings and smite all whom dispute your perspicacity.
Meanwhile the ruins are still gone...
Smiting those who might disagree is a little Old Testament, Bob.
And my position on that ethos ought to be clear to you, even if the sand in your vagina makes the words difficult to focus on.
I'm an old man and my opinion makes little differnce - but personally I find the whole concept of 'drone' warfare abhorret. Yet - I do believe that what goes around, comes around.
"Wonder weapons... my God, I don't see the wonder in them. Killing without heroics, nothing is glorified... nothing is reaffirmed? No heroes, no cowards, no troops, no generals? Only those who are left alive... and those who are left dead. I'm glad I won't live to see it." -- General George C. Scott
Drone warfare reminds me of giving disease-carrying blankets to Native Americans. It is cowardly. But cowards often end up with wealth and power.
Isn't it time to recognize that these Death to America Wahabi motherfuckers are the enemy?
but, don't they work for us? someone has to do the dirty work over there, no?
Both Israel and Saudi Arabia are the enemy of the American people, but the greatest of friends with the neocon/zionist Deep State.
And their collaborations, such as ISIS, are highly successful endeavours - punishing the Shia, Balkanizing and destroying once powerful and modern Arab states, and presented in the media as appearing out of nowhere with billions in weapons and gear to spread the Caliphate by killing Christians and fellow Muslims in ways so horrific it's like something out of a Hollywood or SITE Intelligence movie script...
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And the western press, howling and Unesco screaming about evil ISIS occupying Palmyra, have we actually seen any destruction of those sites so far? I haven't!
Saudi fuckers drop some bombs and actual Unesco hertiage site gets turned to rubbels and dust and what is their response?
"The Saudi-led anti-rebel coalition has denied it carried out the bombing." (BBC)
Well then it must have been lightning that struck those evil rebels, right?
Allahu Akbar, indeed!
I say the US, Russia and China should nuke the Saudi Arabian palaces to stop the fighting.
it is enough to nuke washington dc
Here's a good evil plan (if I were a ``patriotic`` evil man in power)... put a nuke on a chinese-flagged boat. Put it in China's waters... launch nuke from Chinese waters onto Mecca... crank up the medias hype to blame the attack on China... Let China and muslim extremists fight it out : win/win
There are no 2,500 year old mosques.
And of course the Saudis aren't big on history, either, ISIS is just their evil twin, heck they are both evil twins.
looks a lot like dirt to me.
i'm really surprised it took 2500 years to go back to dirt.
but seriously,
sad for the people who live in that.
If the Taliban aren't doing it, it's no problem.
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission..
I'm concerned that 'tons' (literally) of archeological evidence is deliberately being destroyed, to prevent it from contradicting Revisionist History by modern clerical tyrants.
bingo.
Aren't the after pictures more representative of the Middle East? The after rubble should be preserved as a World Heritage site.
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Look, this has to happen around the globe, in order for fresh start!
no records of the past...RESET!!...only the strong and lucky to survive...Right?
is this off topic?
If Rahm Emanuel leaves Chicago... you should, too.
Wait....how is this site 2,500 years old and also “...one of the world’s oldest jewels of Islamic urban landscape?" Islam's about 1,400 years old.
Arab heritage goes way back before Mohamed. Arab heritage goes back to Babylon and Ur.
Sometimes I'm left in the numbed condition of watching "a heritage site" built upon deception, war & slavery being destroyed and feeling absolutely nothing.
Prolly just me tho ;-)
Indeed, slaves built most massive buildings throughout history.
Nevertheless, many of the buildings themselves are masterpieces and, for that alone, worth keeping, because modern-day architects can learn a lot from them.
Also, they are often something locals are proud of, because they used and displayed the best building science "their people" had. And they are history.
I think the Incas were fabulous builders, and I that they didn't exactly have slaves. Instead, every citizen had to give a couple months a year to government service, and a lot of that service was building and maintaining roads, bridges, buildings, agricultural terraces, etc. Doesn't sound great, but I also understand that Incas never starved. If there was ever a famine, the Incas would take food there, and there was always extra food somewhere in the country.
You do know that neither the Jews nor slaves built the pyramids, right?
Please?
There is this thing....wait for it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O5h4enjrHw
Amen! Thanks. How can one NOT be confused by these human brains we volunteered to try out. :-)
Counterpunch.
Yes. I stand corrected. Thank you. I understand that Egyptians were hired to build the pyramids. I guess I was thinking mostly about the Romans. And a lot of other wonderful older buildings and other infrastructure was probably also built by hired labor, but I bet a lot of it was also built with slave labor.
Man, I would LOVE to have a Tardes, and the first thing I would do is go back and see how they really moved those rocks to build the pyramids.
And the next thing I would do is go see how the Incas moved those rocks to build their temples.
I think Mohamed would be very upset at the Saads for destroying Arab heritage architecture in Yemen. I bet Mohamed would march straight to Riyadh.
How about a pork fried missile taking out the Kaaba in Mecca?
Would you say that about the Vatican? Or Westminister Abbey?
Only if the Catholics and Presbyterians are as allergic to pork as the Muslims are.
We're in the Last Days. Why are you surprised that ancient artifacts and monuments are being destroyed by the scum, both East and West, that want to enslave the world?
They can have my Spam when they pry it out of my cold dead fingers! :0)
Actually, I kind of like Spam. Sometimes. Every once in a while. And it keeps forever. :-)
I bet the Saad family would be telling Mohamed, "We're sorry. We got carried away. We will work things out with our Yemeni brethren. Right now."
Looks like a traditional practice to me.
War is hell, bitches.
War is a racket, bitches.
I hope that the Yemenis visit similar retribution upon the Saudis only ten fold greater.
The destruction/ looting of Sumer, Saba, Ninevah and the supposed theft of the Arc from Axum is slightly reminiscent of the Nazi search and looting of historical sites for esoteric artifacts and histories. It's most certainly just symbolic but you never know these people rape kids and imitate sacrifice to stone owls, maybe it means something to them.