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UK Said To Withdraw Spies After Russia, China Hack Snowden Encryption, Sunday Times Reports
Following what are now daily reports of evil Russian hackers penetrating AES-encrypted firewalls at the IRS, and just as evil Chinese hackers penetrating "Einstein 3" in the biggest US hack in history which has allegedly exposed every single federal worker's social security number to shadowy forces in Beijing, the message to Americans is clear: be very afraid, because the "evil hackers" are coming, and your friendly, gargantuan, neighborhood US government (which is clearly here to help you) will get even bigger to respond appropriately.
But don't let any (cyber) crisis go to waste: the porous US security firewall is so bad, Goldman is now pitching cybersecurity stocks in the latest weekly David Kostin sermon. To wit:
The meteoric rise in cybersecurity incidents involving hacking and data breaches has shined a spotlight on this rapidly growing industry within the Tech sector. Cyberwar and cybercrime are two of the defining geopolitical and business challenges of our time. New revelations occur daily about compromised financial, personal, and national security records. Perpetrators range from global superpowers to rogue nation-states, from foreign crime syndicates to petty local criminals, and from social disrupters to teenage hackers. No government, firm, or person is immune from the risk.
Because if you can't profit from conventional war, cyberwar will do just as nicely, and as a result Goldman says "investors seeking to benefit from increased security spending should focus on the ISE Cyber Security Index (HXR)."
The HXR index has outperformed S&P 500 by 19pp YTD (22% vs. 3%). Since 2011, the total return of the index is 123pp higher than the S&P 500 (207% vs. 84%). The relative outperformance of cybersecurity stocks versus S&P 500 matches the surge in the number of exposed records (see Exhibit 2).
Goldman further notes that "the frequency and seriousness of cyberattacks skyrocketed during 2014. Last year 3,014 data breach incidents occurred worldwide exposing 1.1 billion records, with 97% related to either hacking (83%) or fraud (14%). Both incidents and exposed records jumped by 25% during the last year. The US accounted for 50% of total global incidents and exposed records. Businesses accounted for 53% of all reported incidents followed by government entities at 16%. Exhibit 1 contains a list of selected recent high-profile cyberattacks."
It is almost as if the US is doing everything in its power to make life for hackers that much easier, or alternatively to make Goldman's long HXR hit its target in the shortest possible time.
Or perhaps the US is merely giving the impression of a massive onslaught of cyberattacks, one which may well be staged by the biggest cybersecurity infringer, and false flag organizer of them all, the National Security Administration in conjunction with the CIA.
We won't know, however just to make sure that the fear level spread by the Department of "Developed Market" Fear hits panic level promptly, overnight the UK's Sunday Times reported via Reuters, "citing unnamed officials at the office of British Prime Minister David Cameron, the Home Office (interior ministry) and security services" that Britain has pulled out agents from live operations in "hostile countries" after Russia and China cracked top-secret information contained in files leaked by former U.S. National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden.
MI6 building in London.
It is unclear how the unknown source at MI6 learned that Russia has hacked the Snowden files, but what is clear is that after the US admitted Snowden's whistleblowing in fact was warranted and even led to the halt of NSA spying on US citizens (replaced since with spying by private telecom corporations not subject to FOIA requests courtesy of the US Freedom Act), it was long overdue to turn up the PR heat on Snowden, who is seen increasingly as a hero on both sides of the Atlantic.
British Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond said Snowden had done a huge amount of damage to the West's ability to protect its citizens. "As to the specific allegations this morning, we never comment on operational intelligence matters so I'm not going to talk about what we have or haven't done in order to mitigate the effect of the Snowden revelations, but nobody should be in any doubt that Edward Snowden has caused immense damage," he told Sky News.
Reading a little further reveals that in the modern world having your spies exposed merely lead to invitations for coffee and chocolates.
An official at Cameron's office was quoted, however, as saying that there was "no evidence of anyone being harmed." A spokeswoman at Cameron's office declined to comment when contacted by Reuters.
So Russia and China knew the identities and locations of UK spies but they neither arrested them, nor harmed them in any way. How cultured.
Meanwhile, the soundbite propganda keeps building:
A British intelligence source said Snowden had done "incalculable damage". "In some cases the agencies have been forced to intervene and lift their agents from operations to stop them being identified and killed," the source was quoted as saying.
Needless to say, the timing of this latest "report" is no coincidence. Just like in the US where the NSA seemingly just lost a big battle to the Fourth Amendment, so the UK is poised for a big debate on the manufactured "liberty vs security" debate.
The revelations about the impact of Snowden on intelligence operations comes days after Britain's terrorism law watchdog said the rules governing the security services' abilities to spy on the public needed to be overhauled. Conservative lawmaker and former minister Andrew Mitchell said the timing of the report was "no accident".
"There is a big debate going on," he told BBC radio. "We are going to have legislation bought back to parliament (...) about the way in which individual liberty and privacy is invaded in the interest of collective national security.
"That's a debate we certainly need to have."
Cameron has promised a swathe of new security measures, including more powers to monitor Briton's communications and online activity in what critics have dubbed a "snoopers' charter".
And because Britain's terrorism laws reviewer David Anderson said on Thursday the current system was "undemocratic, unnecessary and - in the long run - intolerable" and called for new safeguards, including judges not ministers approving warrants for intrusive surveillance, saying there needed to be a compelling case for any extensions of powers, this is precisely why now was the right time for some more "anonymously-sourced" anti-liberty propaganda.
So between the IRS and the OPM hacks, not to mention the countless other US hacks and data breaches shown on the top chart, allegedly almost exclusively by Russia and China, which have revealed not only how much US citizens make, spend and save, but the SSN, work and mental history of every Federal worker, the two "isolated" nations now know as much if not more about the US than the US itself.
If this was even remotely true, then the US would long ago have been in a state of war with both nations.
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It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets.
http://philiacband.com/propaganda.html
Let freedom ring all over the world!
Likely more than a few Chicom and Rooskie officials have just lost their favorite squeeze.
Nothing to worry about. The White House recently announced a "30-day Cybersecurity Sprint" (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jun/13/white-house-pushes-30-da...) to unhack the hacked OPM databases. The Chinese will voluntarily destroy their copies of the data they stole, the US Government (i.e. the few remaining taxpayers) will pay for a year of credit watch services for those whose personal data was compromised, and everybody will be happy again.
Forward (over the cliff)!
"Edward Snowden: I Didn't Give Secrets to China or Russia!" (Jul.10.2013)
http://mashable.com/2013/07/10/snowden-china-russia/
Edward Snowden said during a recent interview he did not give any secret information to China or Russia while in either of those two countries.
"I never gave any information to either government, and they never took anything from my laptops," he told The Guardian's Glenn Greenwald in a new interview published Wednesday.
In the last few weeks, speculation has circulated that the National Security Agency whistleblower collaborated with Chinese and Russian intelligence agents. The New York Times mentioned two "Western intelligence experts" who claimed China was able to drain Snowden's laptops and obtain their contents.
Snowden denied those claims in his interviews with Greenwald.***
Looks like either the Russians got themselves some access to Snowdon´s old laptop and finally sucked it dry of all it´s NSA nuggets (probably while Edward was out touring Moscow with his girlfriend), or Boris from the FSB came by for a friendly chat and showed Edward a one-way American Airlines ticket from Moscow to New York...and made him an offer he just couldn´t refuse.
Bond, Jame Bond, won't be able to help much this time ! And, what's with that building ? I thought they blew it up to make the last 007 movie...
I was as shocked as you were.
Now I'm wondering WTF happened to the flowers I sent to M's funeral!
Maybe it's an old pic?
http://notes.rjgallagher.co.uk/2015/06/sunday-times-snowden-china-russia...
All in all, for me the Sunday Times story raises more questions than it answers, and more importantly it contains some pretty dubious claims, contradictions, and inaccuracies. The most astonishing thing about it is the total lack of scepticism it shows for these grand government assertions, made behind a veil of anonymity. This sort of credulous regurgitation of government statements is antithetical to good journalism.
Mr. or is it Mrs. Phillip Hammond seems like a perfectly fine piece of shit.
The sunday times has already deleted one of the claims in the article (without an editors note) because it was so easily proved wrong. Whenever governments are dropping anonymous rumours without any evidence into the media you know they're up to some serious bullshit elsewhere as well, good coverage by zh.
The Intercept does a good job of exposing the Murdoch "Journalism" for the propoganda it is. Most particularly, Snowden destroyed all his own records after he turned over the files and his encryption key to real journalists in Hong Kong. That being the case how could Russia and China have hacked and decrypted anything?
I hope Russia sets up a site naming every government employee with their address and job description. Makes the revolution a cakewalk if we can go to their homes just like they do to us.
Leaves their families as targets.The Bundy situation changed completely after the BLM home
addresses were posted on the internet.Within a day it was over.
The UK led US propaganda team, has proven beyond any reasonable doubt, they have absolutely no clue as how to properly engage in a propaganda war, that neither sect of fucktards has a thimble's worth of experience in...
So, the reality is we cannot trust a government that cannot secure one bit of electronic information, much less protect us against any threat. See: Boston...
1950's Russian nuclear voodoo propaganda agenda = MISERABLE FAILURE.
US Russian Nuclear War prevented by a Russian Radar interpreter. And not one fucking thing else...
Edwards computer hacked by Americans while he was out about town with girlfriend, then secrets left on Russian dropbox account.
All of this done to confuse the ZH readers.
Fact A: The government robbed Social Security... (There's nothing left!)
Supposed Fact B: Hackers compromised Social Security Numbers of Officials...
CAN YOU SEE THE PLOT PEOPLE???
I miss all those 'State Street Sued By_______' headlines.
Cant report on those anymore, its National Security.
I'd let the answering machine get it.
at the moment id rather prefer some truth ringing all over the world... for example did the hackers use NSA known/used backdoors/vulnerabilities? why nobody tells us???!
...
Evul Snowdon - check
Evul Rooskies - check
Evul Chinese - check
The new Axis of Evul.
Axis of evil is USA/UK/Israel
Back so soon Butch?
Where was he? At the Gay Pride Day in Tel Aviv? :o)
Just to be clear, Snowden is not a traitor to the people of the US (or EU).
However, it is perfectly appropriate for the governments and shadow governments of those nations to consider him a traitor to their interests.
One man's traitor is another man's freedom fighter.
Yo, Phil Hammond . . . fu<k you!!!!!!!
Ed Snowden is a hero.
Well, maybe Russia or China can provide the American people with Hillary's E-Mails.
...and while they're at it, they can throw in the ones from the former Head Bitch of the IRS (I forgot her name, tried to forget IRS too, but the cocksuckers keep sending me reminders)...
I remember those "evul-doers".
<<The New Axis of Evul.>>
Which is drastically stepping up its propaganda effort to justify aggressively attacking the rest of the world, in an effort to start WW3 and see who makes it out of the bunkers.
Fuck this evil New World Order.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNHOUrYFj70
It took a long time to build and set in place, and it sure as hell isn't going to be easy taking it down. They couldn't be any clearer that they have their hand poised over the nuke button, just looking for any excuse to use it. I think they know they've lost, so they've resorted to intimidate the rest of the world into supporting the status quo, by showing just how desperate they are and how far they are willing to go. The USUK government, and its puppet governments in Europe, Canada, Australia, and Japan -- are completely insane. Ukraine is acting out just who these people are. They would rather destroy the whole world than not dominate everyone else. The 'West' is run by sociopaths.
<<It is unclear how the unknown source at MI6 learned that Russia has hacked the Snowden files, but what is clear is that after the US admitted Snowden's whistleblowing in fact was warranted and even led to the halt of NSA spying on US citizens (replaced since with spying by private telecom corporations not subject to FOIA requests courtesy of the US Freedom Act), it was long overdue to turn up the PR heat on Snowden, who is seen increasingly as a hero on both sides of the Atlantic... So Russia and China knew the identities and locations of UK spies but they neither arrested them, nor harmed them in any way. How cultured. Meanwhile, the soundbite propganda keeps building... Needless to say, the timing of this latest "report" is no coincidence. Just like in the US where the NSA seemingly just lost a big battle to the Fourth Amendment, so the UK is poised for a big debate on the manufactured "liberty vs security" debate... So between the IRS and the OPM hacks, not to mention the countless other US hacks and data breaches shown on the top chart, allegedly almost exclusively by Russia and China, which have revealed not only how much US citizens make, spend and save, but the SSN, work and mental history of every Federal worker, the two "isolated" nations now know as much if not more about the US than the US itself. If this was even remotely true, then the US would long ago have been in a state of war with both nations.>
Bravo, Tyler. This is truth very clearly written. It is incredible how the onslaught of propaganda is turning into deluge. I'm glad you have the integrity to call it what it is. Propaganda is also an assault on journalism.
I think the Commandment implies that it’s OK to righteously kill but specifies it’s not ok to murder.
But uh oh..
now Snowden is on triple secret probation.
The information liberation movement rolls on!
It's all Ed Snowden's™ Fault!
Good, now Snoden's documents may all be revealed, like to see what juicyness is in there.
Agreed. I also hope Russia and China acted quick enough.
This is fucking ridiculous now. So russia and china cracked the files. And instead of exploiting the information for their own benefit, they ANNOUNCED THIS TO THE WORLD.
I guess TPTB think we are so stupid we would believe a minor technical acheivement is more important than acting on key intelligence. Right!
USA always looks for a patsy.
That's true but gov lies so much moar and moar people don't believe any of it.
The Sunday Times’ Snowden Story is Journalism at its Worst — and Filled with Falsehoodshttps://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/06/14/sunday-times-report-snowde...
(greenwald rants mostly about media sock puppets with this)
Indeed. My first reaction to stories like this is that they are all false.
I really wish I had the discipline to ignore all of this, because I don't believe anything anymore.
Besides, there isn't much I can do about. Honestly I'm skeptical about Snowden and Greenwald too. How somebody can be a whistleblower against the sureveiilence state, then remain pretty quiet about the spark plug event that "justified" it all is beyond me.
I agree with you in regards to being skeptical. But, and I have been slammed for it here before, I do not make the connection between his credibility and his opinion of 9/11.
It is possible that the two are mutually exclusive. No?
The older I get the more I realize not to hold onto anything (ideas and beliefs included) to firmly. I know enough to know I dont know shit.
Now if you KNEW he had something on the 9/11 story, then thats a different story.
He stays away from 9/11 because if he stayed to the storyline he would be quickly exposed and discredited. I quit paying too much attention to him but do not remember him exposing too much of anything against Israel. If he supported the 9/11 belief that it was a false flag it might be given too much credance and cause a stir since the US govt has built him up as holding true info..
Even this recent storyline makes no sense. He is a hero to some for being willing to give out information, yet he never gave all the info and would not even let Russia see what was encrypted on his computer. Now we are to believe that China broke the encryption and almost instantly the US was made aware of what would be a great secret. And then Russia and China sit back and let evil spys stroll out of their countries when they have information showing who and what they are.
Stump
Don't quit your day job at the falafel stand. You are a weak 'tinker tailor.'
Did you think that when Snowden let the NSA secrets slip out, that Russia and/or China were going to start to dance around, singing "Look at everything we got. Nah nah nah."
Nope, then it was just a teeny bit here and a teeny bit there.
That's why the US was so desperate to get him back.
TO FIND OUT WHAT HE TOOK.
From December 2012 to May 2013 three CIA agents were expelled from Russia and the name of the Chief of Station in Moscow was published. Now more CIA agents elsewhere are being recalled for security reasons because of Snowden's endeavors.
When Snowden first arrived at Sheremetyevo, it was important to believe that he acted on his own accord.
How then if Putin went out and enlisted him? Does that change anything? Of course not. It just makes Putin look better than he already does.
It equates the real Vladimir Putin and the fictional George Smiley.
Except Putin isn't just MI6. He's running Russia.
So Stump, how else do you explain how 4 CIA operatives were expelled from Moscow (Russia) in the 6 month period before Snowden arrived except that Snowden himself sprayed the Black Flag?
Or maybe you thought he was going to Cuba?
Maybe I would have prefered that ES acted spontaneously. But after Obama had Rutte have Greenpeace sail into the Arctic and then made a mockery of Russia's laws concerning homosexuality (when several states here are fighting gay marriage tooth and nail), and Victoria Noodleman showed her ugly face in the Maidan, well you get my drift.
The coup was kosher. Crimea was not. Washington became the Monitor General of the South China Sea. More dead in Syria, Libya, Iraq, Donbass.
If Putin hadn't gone out and gotten Snowden you'd prolly have a rat cage with 2 starving rats in it two inches from your pretty face.
RIGHT NOW.
Believe what your own eyes show you, the black cube hidden up top of the MI6 building tells you who and why. Waiting for the Ghost Busters to show up and zap the Jack in the box, what a creepy building. The offset lone red pillar also gives up the gig on which side these boys are playing, Learn their language, learn their codes. That and its a zigarot to boot.
Furthermore, if you don't believe the bastards, you are assumed to be a terrorist.
saw this recently re the Times' coverage of Iran:
http://original.antiwar.com/sahimi/2015/03/24/irans-nuclear-program-and-...
+100
That is a very good article with much truth
Everyone should read that.
The British were not happy with Ben Franklin and his printing press; else everyone would have loved the King and remained a Tory.
Let's ignore the fact that computers are not secure, and instead pretend like computers can be secured.
"Let's ignore the fact that computers are not secure, and instead pretend like computers can be secured."
Computers can absolutely be secured. Its "networked" computers that are practically impossible to secure.
Always makes me smile when someone bragss that their iPad is more secure than a proper tooled up WIndows machine,
"Always makes me smile when someone bragss that their iPad is more secure than a proper tooled up WIndows machine,"
Neither are secure. Windows has backdoors in it, and so do apple products. You're fooling yourself if you believe a network connected Windows\Linux\Apple\etc machine is or can be made completely secure.
Anything connected to the Internet cannot be secured, ever.
An x486 Windows '95 computer with no modem or ethernet can be secured.
Just secure the network b killing the hacker.
Doesn't sound very complicated.
Start just the way Hitler did and go from there...
Anything that can be remotely modulated cannot be secured, ever.
It is a hardware problem and a simple fix, any modulation input points need a hard/off break in the circuit aka an actual cut when off and the ability to protect the cut from being arced afterwards.
They have systems which can create an audio network using the sound cards. It's not enough just to have it unplugged from the network.
The Snowden docs were encripted? WTF?
And the US SFM86 files contained details of British spies? Consider this bullshitish.
rothschilds doomsday estates
fuck you, thats my name..........
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3123296/The-ultimate-doomsday-es...
tyler bait:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/markets/2015/06/14/federal-reserve-b...
So our spies are heroic freedom fighters whereas their spies are hatefilled subversive thieves looking to destroy our very existence.I remember the days Saddam was a friend of the West. And Noreiga. And Bin Laden.
This is what happens when you industrialize spying through massive deficit spending and allow politicians to overly interconnect agencies. MI6 can't keep every hole patched in the digital era. The most effective spys operate in the analogue today, just like the good ole days.
I wonder if the MI6 building has cameras that could record a plane hitting it. Really disappointed that the Pentagon didn't on 911. Kinda strange eh?
Pentagon strike
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzFqXbfv_yg
Now, does it really look like a plane could travel at this trajectory? Really?!
The real one probably does.Not the designated decoy.
Thats the Ministry of Silly Walks in all likleyhood.
Do you think this footage shows a plane hitting the Pentagon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzFqXbfv_yg
Of course not.A plane couldn't have guaranteed hitting the audit team looking
for the missing trillions.That wasn't going to be left to chance.To be sure I would have
planted the device inside, but thats just me.
The perfect lawns , before and after, was bad continuity work by Hollywood.
The sheeple don't notice though.Bah bah.
This all could have been avoided if the US would have waived prosecuting Snowden
.gov ego stand down? I think we'll all have a better chance to get into Bildeberg group before that happens
So the Baltimore Riots™ were caused by Ed Snowden too?
How about the bankruptcy of Detroit?
What is this guy hiding from again? "He's not entitled to a defense"? We're all guilty in the eyes o the Lord.
Come on home remains my view.
The secular system may judge us wrongly but that is not nor ever will be the ultimate arbiter o right and wrong/good vs bad.
And who knows...maybe you will have the law on your side too. It's not like the .gov still doesn't love hacking.
Maybe they'll like some truth witth that hack at sometime too.
I mean that is the only complaint the .gov has here, right?
" Ed lied to us"?
The US and UK are at war with Russia and China and have already lost.
Anyone still believe the STUXNET virus was US made (anagram, US NEXT with an Extra T for Extra Terrestrial). Wouldn't look good if China and Russia had been the ones stopping Iran's nukes now would it?
Nice try Phoenix, but no banana...
Iran has closed networks at its facilities. US knew this from the Intel and boots on the ground of which some were involved with companies like Johnson Controls Their command and control software down to the mechanical interface that automatically maintains some functions in the real world.... centrifuges to be precise.
Stuxnet was developed by Israeli and US teams to be the best plug-n-play super virus that once launched would:
Propagate to all networks connected.
Learn what systems are running command and control
Learn what computer controlled mechanical devices, sensors, gauges and all other manual things.
There has never been this level of completeness of target penetration.
The best part is Pièces de ré·sis·tance, Stuxnet once running will takeover all screen monitors and display normal working conditions, or in the safe zone, real-time that all systems are GO!.
Stuxnet was stuck into Iran's sealed networks by teams of Israeli and converted locals. They hand carried USB thumb drives to stick inside targeted workstations and Stuxnet was born.
Iran knew nothing as the virus spread and took over. Once done, Stuxnet said "We are loooking good!". Lastly, Stuxnet opened many doors in the attacked networked systems, giving the Israeli and US COMPLETE REMOTE CONTROL of those systems... Can anyone say Fukashima?
Damn bugs worked well, shutdown centrifuges , heh, spun the bitches so fast they spewed. Iran got pissed, rounded up some folks and killed them. "Shock and Awe" Iran felt so raped in the butt.
Then the rest is history, denial by Israel and US, Russian team, Kaperski, got a copy, read the code verifying Israel and US code from known coders.and declared Stuxnet was a brilliant virus that was generations before its time but to their HORROR! It was TOOLKIT for all command and control of attached systems down to the tiny little indicator LED.
Immediately after Stuxnet was launched, copies of black market Stuxnet were sold for for $80,000 and up to who knows who!
So not so much China and Russia... in my opinion.
Peace my brother.
I hope your OK!!!!! Brother
The switch
Bullshit
Snowy & Vlad have bigger stones than dumb black muslim
Sorry to intrude in the conversation but well there is a tiny little fact about any kind of encryption the NSA did not forbid use outright or cooperated in its promotion as its standards ... MATHEMATICAL FAULTS within the algorithm hence enabling easy mass decryption or even worse forcing the software publisher to release ESCROW KEYS that will decrypt any stream / file using that system by the use of a Govermnent level only passphrase , putting it all back in the CLEAR. AES has long been suspected by the cybersecurity world to contain such mathematical faults . The UK reaction shows that just have might been right , but i would personnally suspect other standard crypto to be as vulnerable as that one as well , maybe aside PGP which the three letter agencies HATE with all their heart, because they could not sue the author into bankrupcy or intimidate him to release a workaround.
wtf?
This might be a great comment, if only it were in fucking english...
A mathematical fault is a shortcut to decrypt encrypted content , instead of bruteforcing your way into guessing the key you use a simpler set of operations that will reveal the encrypted content for you . This is best done by planting a complex fault into an algorithm
An Escrow key is a generic passphrase that will allow decryption without you having to give the password. Some escrow key compliance is required by the Departement of Commerce and the Departement of Defense to export encryption technologies , otherwise you might just be subject to an export ban.
Further readings here if you want :
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Key_escrow
Just another FALSE FLAG event. Great excuse for .gov to justify further invasions of privacy and restrictions on liberty.
Also a great opportunity to portray Snowden as a Boogie Man threatening your security. .gov doing what it does best.
Why would Snowden know something about mi6 or UK spies?
Aww… the playground bullies got wedgied again – snif, snif.
Tools and Fools. Instead of continued lame propaganda, perhaps “Just Us” should consider ordering their minions to fire the hordes of incompetent hacks and focus on technical competence instead of “political correctness”, etc… ROFL!
cameron, tosser-wanker. the limeys are the ones who gave russia the bomb in the first place. they are self leaking.
egad those maggots are full of shit
you need protection, FROM ME! [Luigi Pappalardo, Deathrow Gameshow]
"Snowden encryption"???
Just more US Snowden-bashing propaganda.
You mean US has not tightened up its encryption since Snowden's whistleblowing two years ago??
Shame ! ! !....
Snowden information likely had nothing to do with the latest hacks, but the blame goes on--
Blaming Snowden a lot simpler than figuring out how to solve the basic problem
of overwhelming US Homeland Security incompetence
The other day, Eugene Kaspersky noted:
"We discovered an advanced attack on our own internal networks. It was complex, stealthy, it exploded several zero-day vulnerabilities, and we’re quite confident that there’s a nation state behind it." The firm dubbed this attack Duqu 2.0, named after a specific series of malware called Duqu, considered to be related to the Stuxnet attack that targeted Iran in 2011.
It is, of course, now well-known that Stuxnet originated as a Israel/US venture; however this time it would appear that CIA/Mossad may have got a bit overconfident and shot themselves in the foot when they inserted very advanced spyware into Kaspersky's system…
Kaspersky is not just some simple-minded backward nation state; rather they are the unquestioned world leader in advanced cybersecurity systems, so when they found this malware in their own system, of course they figured it out, and of course got a bit pissed—so, since they are in the business of providing advanced cybersecurity to various nations---they very legitimately passed on the critical encryption information to their clients, and it is not at all inconceivable that some of the clients decided to take the system for a spin and see what it could do….
And, of course, a bit later at the opportune moment after they let the cat out of the bag, to rub a bit of salt in the wound Kaspersky mentioned: "And the attackers are now back to the drawing board since we exposed their platform to the whole IT security industry. "They’ve now lost a very expensive technologically-advanced framework they’d been developing for years,"
an interesting background article:
https://eugene.kaspersky.com/2011/11/02/the-man-who-found-stuxnet-sergey-ulasen-in-the-spotlight/
Why would they do that ??? they use perfectly safe TLS ... (/sarc) .
More seriously ì suspect he went away with a few crypto faults that he might have transacted , faults do not go away easily unless you change the whole technology and acknowledge the vulnerability , which in the present state of affairs would be a DISASTER for the NSA in terms of crebility of current encryption standards (TLS/SSL , AES , Security Enhanced Linux Kernel , among a few others come to mind). You would have to redo your entire security apparatus in quick order , change to new encryption practices for internal and external data feeds , that would cause to address new vendors for your crypto equipment (that DOES cost a pretty penny).Not to mention rethink completely the information processing and flow within your internal network ... (that takes VERY qualified people AND a lot of time for implementation).
update:
http://arstechnica.co.uk/security/2015/06/stepson-of-stuxnet-stalked-kaspersky-for-months-tapped-iran-nuke-talks/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ev7LsP6Hig
The Russian woman that is Mrs. M is taking her motorcycle test for another fucking license. It is something I can't do for her. Hey I have a Class A CDL with all of the endorsements including hazmat. Thae stae wabnt to charge for that license like right around $1700. Fuck the state. I did their their little dog and pony show. Fuck them. I bought Mrs's M a Harley and taught her how to ride it. There is no fucking class that will teach how to do anything like. Holy shit man, those huge 53 semis are not that easy to manage. I have respect for anyone towing a 53 footer. It is different world in those trucks but it is also a different world on motorcycles.
She passed. I just forked over another 40 bucks because that is a new license. The DMV is not open on Sunday but I already know how this goes.
As someone who has about 250K under my belt riding bikes as well as being a former instructor, if you love Ms. M, please for Gods sake pound "countersteering"into her noggin. Push on the Rt bar to turn right, push on the left bar to turn left. That's how bikes work. I've seen fatalities (plural) where a car pulls out of a side street and the natural reflex is AGAINST countersteering. So the bike rider center-punches the car in a case where it woulda / shoulda / coulda been 100% avoidable.
I hope you peeps have many safe trips together.
Goldman further notes that "the frequency and seriousness of cyberattacks skyrocketed during 2014. Last year 3,014 data breach incidents occurred worldwide exposing 1.1 billion records, with 97% related to either hacking (83%) or fraud (14%). Both incidents and exposed records jumped by 25% during the last year. The US accounted for 50% of total global incidents and exposed records. Businesses accounted for 53% of all reported incidents followed by government entities at 16%. Exhibit 1 contains a list of selected recent high-profile cyberattacks."
How in the world do they get these numbers?
How can you detect a breach but not protect for it?
If you're not protected from a breach, how can you detect it?
Who is the clearing house for these numbers and who's on the distribution list?
Me thinks someone is making this stuff up.
anybody that believes any of this BS spread by the brits amis chinese russians is as full of shit as the afore mentioned.
BS is the name of the game folks. lmao
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So the only reason Hillary's shit hasn't hit the internet is because she used better encryption?
What a fucking farce.
No, it's because she used a secret server that not even a congressional subpeona could get into.
Am I still the only one that sees this whole Snowden thing as a CIA ruse?
My favorite is the strategic "leaking" out of information as needed by a Jewish reporter working for a noiZ-media outlet. I have even read Greenwald's book, No Place to Hide, and I'm still not buying it.
I'm not buying any of it, but then I'd prefer to not ask for a "refund."
My personal opinion is that the CIA, in their ongoing battle with the Pentagon, penetrated the NSA, then tapped a photogenic young man in their mitts to serve as the "poster boy" for the ensuing "leaks." Once they have the attention of the sheeple, they can then claim anything, as any NSA defense will not be believed.
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission..
"They lie about everything. Why would they lie about this?"
"AES-encrypted firewalls" uh huh. You, realize that's nonsensical yes? That, encryption has nothing to do with any firewall. Tyler #whatever, really shouldn't be writing about things he knows nothing about.
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2015/06/five-reasons-the-mi6-sto...
Great link. Thanks.
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission.
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Either Snowden read the play for some decade to come and took the key pieces of info with him that he keeps secret but those pieces of intel currently allow him to access and control all covert govt surveillance including that adapted due to being compromised, there maybe some grains of truth in this in a cyber dependant organization created in an incorrectly perceived superiority complex. Or maybe his name is synonymous with modern spying, the geek who made good for the people, and his credibility is used to market a large amount of information releases for public digestion. A figurehead if you will. Not to say that some years on, the shockwaves from his actions reverberating around the planet coincide in specific places as various imperatives are displaced by the dissolution of the foundation he cracked, while the public are still only really concerned about their dick pics, which apparently women do not enjoy so much anyway. Promoted as a storm in a teacup by those who suffer to the transparency he gave, but it is the woodchips the show the direction of the wind, not the great lumps of timber, and when the standing trees fall it is the woodchips that have shown the truth, such is the way that key figures move the static behemoths of overstated self importance ignorant to the world they create. The hemorrhage has been contained but for some reason it continues to bleed out at a steady rate, slowly washing the veil from the eyes who suffer the belief of attaining prosperity or power through subjecting themselves to the will of others.
He's good, but was he that good? What else is playing in his favour, or the favour of his identity?
Eric SnowJob Strikes Again!!!
Before this is over, US and British agents will be dead or arrested by Russia and China.
And SnowJob will be guilty of Treason. And Stupidity.
SnowJob released docs without ever reading them.
He admitted this on a taped interview.
How the fuck can you release any doc without reading first?
Where is SnowJob's common sense?
Note to self. When I deliberately weaken computer encryption standards, I must remember not to use those same standards.
Hell, I don’t mind being hacked at all.
The Chinese hackers are on my network so heavy they even save files and do backups for me when I sometimes forget to.
They aren’t going to let me lose time and effort on things they can steal and that I get paid for.
And they sure as shit don’t want me under bid on ‘our’ next contract because I’m a tad bit scatter brained or a little inefficient.
I treat my covert Asian visitors kind’a like friendly, useful ghosts.
Now the NSA on the other hand…..Those asswipe spooks PISS ME OFF! … I know FOR A FACT that they are the ones slowing my ZH page loads to a snails pace.
~ DC
"British Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond..."
Argh! When he was Minister of Transport, Traffic Jams & Congestion, he promised to abandon the "war on motorists" that took off under HRH Tony Blair.
Nothing has improved one jot, not least because, in London, the chief King of the war is none other than Boris Johnson, Mayor of London.
I would not keep anything on a computer for long before putting it on a thumb drive/drives, whatever. Especially personal info. But lets make it hard on ourselves And expensive with "NEW and Improved" cyber security which works only until the next time. Time for another beer.
I suspect that the Western powers are creating a lot of smoke in order to excuse and to cover up for many and any future actions both political, legislative and on the ground.
If information is being obtained by Chnia and Russia and the Andromedians then it is the banksters and the banksters CIA and pentagon that are giving it to them.
NSA spy program.......
in one computer---out the other
The Snowden files were 1) highly encrypted - very doubtful anyone broke through them and 2) he didn't take them with him to Russia - he gave them to the reporters.
Unnamed sources - well, who? This is a serious charge - who is leveling it? What damage was done? None - the 'unnamed source' says. Where is this "great damage" spoken of?
This story smells....
The US can break all encryption if it warrants enough resources. Generally they try to bypass it though. If Russia made it a priority to decrypt specific sets of data I would not be surprised if they've broken them by now.
"The US can break all encryption if it warrants enough resources."
This is not a true statement. For some reason, someone wants the public to think this is true, but it is not. In fact, there is encryption freely available that experts believe is not only unbreakable, but will always be unbreakable on account of limitations of fundamental physics. Something to do with the number of atoms in the universe or energy output of the sun or something like that.
If one is serious, then can encrypt stuff that no one will ever be able to decrypt. And it's not that hard. And free.
Lol what exactly is "Snowden encryption"??? Is it specific cipher? Is it colection of several security checks? LOL I dont recognize such word in my IT world ;)
Also, I would be interested more about "penetrating AES-encrypted firewalls". Does it mean AES itself was cracked and if yes what was weak point? Weak password? Weak RNG? Or for real encryption itself? Or firewalls were just crappy HW with bad design? Meh, anyway for me there is only one encryption I will ever trust and thats SERPENT.
Also, this remind me recent argument I had with some "technical analyst" here not long ago who believe security through obscurity "help" against NSA. And lol behold here fucking AES firewalls are being penetrated rolf ;)
AES's weakness reside probably in a math fault ..
As refered here the NSA had a hand in it ... i would NOT put it beyond them to have cooked an alteration of the algorithm to facilitate decryption.
Do you need a tech consultant Tyler? There are some statements here that make it sound like you are getting your information from CNN or crappy movies.
Funny this story comes out 2 days after that other headline about the Chinese having access to the personal records of all current and former fed employees and intelligence personnel.
The Pentagon gonna be charging their cyber security people with treason for letting the Chinese walk through the place? Not likely. Probably give them bigger and better contracts to do the same incompetent job they've been doing, but worse.
Glen Greenwald on the disgusting state of MSM journalism. https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/06/14/sunday-times-report-snowde...
That's it ... the Ruskies and Chi-coms got the keys to USA and UK systems by cracking the encryption on Snowden's laptop.
And people believe this crap. The zombie age is amoung us ... but instead of flake skinned freaks the zombies are idiots with devices.
This is so obviously bogus it makes one's head ache; either that or every single IT person working for UK intelligence should be fired.
We are to believe that after Snowden showed up in HongKong, that UK and USA agencies made no adjustments to their systems ... really?
I bet American bureaucrats are kicking themselves for not thinking of this bullshit when their own systems were recently hacked ... idiots simply just went and admitted they were hacked, The Brits on the otherhand, holding their subjects in utter contempt simply went to the scapegoat of the century ... Edward Snowden.
I would not be surprised if he encrypted the documents with PGP and the Russians brute forced the password or just stole the documents from one of the reporters the tool worked with. He is an arrogant little boy.
CIA ASShats probably rubber hosed it out of someone and spoon fed it to someone so that they can blame the Ruskis or the Chinks for propaganda purposes.
Another Ghost (security) TAX with Goldman eating and drinking from the Sheep's Trough. Fucking PIGS.
I smell a Rat & the timing is suspect as well to me. The whole Snowden story is HINKY to say the least. Why did he not release all the documents at once ? The crime was the same regardless etc ?
Why didn't Binney & Drake get the same media coverage when they were years before Snowden's leak & we already knew Bush's NSATIA rpogram was Unconstitotuional.
Why did Snowden, Poitras, Greenwald make so much more profit on this when the real stories had already been broken years earlier ?
If they wanted him schwacked he would have been schwacked....
Again? Well, Mortimer, that does it. We are just going to have to freeze all the bank accounts.
IT Security is the biggest clown fuck fest I've ever witnessed in my entire life...
I look at my IT security numb nuts and think to myself. These fuckers can't be the best we have.
Foundstone scans after foundstone scans. All but returning false positives and ignoring the real vulnerabilities...we'll patch this later...no worries....trust us!
And holy shit... if they finally protect the networks and systems by bringing them down to a crawl. The hackers will just give up since the response times will enrage them to no end.
-sorry rant off
It's like the TSA, our Infosec group just implements new protocols and applications that just incoveniences the users and IT support while giving appearance of securing our network and IP.
It's funny because the FireEye device was sitting on the floor for the entire last year...
Was going to post this afternoon about planned obsolescence.
Think it is just Detroit Cars or highways or bridges that need constant maintenance?
No government computer contracts ever deliver the full scope of work, but they get work done signed off as complete.
In the case of the last 15 years maybe the scope of work isn't even filled with Quantifiables, Milestones, and graduated payments for completed work. Guys like Boze Allen and AT&T probably follow the footsteps of much older contractors that know if you build failure in, you get add on contracting.
Yep. Add-on work if you don't complete the work that was intended. Of course the contractor probably knows more about contracting than DoD or the Government. So if stuff is left off of the Scope of Work... well that is the government's fault.
BS. Taxpayers need representation even if it must be by the contractor. There must be integrity. All parties must show patriotism. Screw the contractor if he offers terms that turnout to be Treasonous.
Screw the DoD contractor that doesn't deliver top notch, solutions. Get the bums out of here at least. At most throw them in Jail.
With any luck, and hopefully it will happen...
Hopefully someone (anyone, please help) will expose ALL the CIA ASShats (and other USGOV ASSets) that are meddling into other countries affairs (that are used help to make the fatcats richer) and some of them (hopefully all of them) end up on the end of a rope.
Maybe something like that will send a good message to the Empire that the time of being a money making extortion tool for the elite is coming to an end.
Then maybe innocents around the world will stay alive.
One can only hope for peace and freedom from the ameriKan police state surveillance murder Empire.
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Nice Job
Fcuk them till they bleed to death
UPDATE
3 OUT OF THE 4 CIA OPERATIVES SNAGGED IN THE FIRST 5 MONTHS OF 2013 WERE SNAGGED A MONTH BEFORE SNOWDEN ARRIVED
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I'm trying to find the names of the 3 CIA operatives and Moscow Station Chief that bit the dust in the 6 months before Snowden arrived.
So far Ryan Fogle is the only name that The Great Google is willing to divulge. This story from the Independent mentions Fogle by name (can you see Fogle's remarkable resemblance to ZH's own Dindu Nuffin? Makes you wonder what Dindu did do before he started posting here.)
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russian-agent-claims-ryan...
"On May 17, 2013 FSB revealed the identity of the CIA Station Chief as Steven Hall in further retaliation."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_declared_persona_non_grata
When CIA operative Benjamin Dillon who worked in Moscow as third secretary of US economic dept. was caught in December 2012 doing the same as Fogle he was declared persona non grata and given the heave ho.
http://rbth.com/international/2013/05/17/fsb_warns_cia_against_further_s...
I can't find the name of the US citizen who was suspected of espionage and after travelling to the West was not permitted back into Russia.
The CIA and NSA must be scrubbing the embarrassing news articles in proper Orwellian fashion.
Here it is The fourth name: Thomas Firestone.
After January’s quiet expulsion of an alleged CIA agent, Benjamin Dillon, and this week’s rather less quiet PNGing of Ryan Fogle, comes news (broken in theNY Times) that Thomas Firestone, a former legal counsellor at the US Embassy who had moved into private practice in Moscow, was barred from returning to the city and sent back to the USA.
https://inmoscowsshadows.wordpress.com/2013/05/19/moscow-continues-its-a...
for more pix of Dindu. If you scroll down, there are a couple of pictures that show how nicely Fogle cleans up. I wonder if Dindu does?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2324604/Russia-expels-CIA-agent-...
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