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Magna Carta Now: Riots, Real Justice, & Reaching Our Own Runnymede Moment
Submitted by Simon Black via Sovereign Man blog,
In the history of post-Norman monarchs in the UK there have been nine Henrys. Eight Edwards. Four Williams. Four Georges. And three Richards.
Yet there was only one John.
In fact, in nearly 1,000 years since William the Conqueror took England in 1066, John was the only King to never have his name repeated.
And with reason. He wasn’t exactly a popular guy, widely despised by his people and nobles alike.
John constantly taxed and plundered his subjects to finance pointless wars abroad. He extorted them with ever-increasing fines and imprisoned people for absurd, victimless crimes.
He used his local police (sheriffs) to confiscate private property under threat of violence, building them into the most feared and powerful force in the kingdom.
According to Harry Buffardi’s book “The History of the Office of the Sheriff”, King John deliberately selected “men of harsh demeanor for the post”.
(Does any of this sound familiar?)
The historical evidence suggests that John was so hated that he was assassinated by poison; Shakespeare dramatizes this episode in his little known play King John, which contains the most wonderful death line “[N]ow my soul hath elbow-room. . .”
Before he departed this earth, however, King John was forced to make certain concessions to the nobles who had waged all-out rebellion against him.
After taking London, the rebel barons met John to formalize these concessions at a picturesque riverside meadow called Runnymede, not far from Heathrow airport.
The contract they hammered out on June 15, 1215 (which is actually June 22nd in our modern calendar) contained a list of rights and privileges that eventually became known as Magna Carta.
And to this day it continues to be held up as some sort of holy document that spawned everything from the English Bill of Rights to the United States Constitution.
Over the weekend I went to a special Magna Carta exhibit at the British Library in London, which praised the document for building the foundation of personal liberty (ironically while all of us were under CCTV surveillance).
That’s certainly the official story.
The National Archives in the US calls Magna Carta “one of the most important legal documents in the history of democracy,” and that “during the American Revolution, Magna Carta served to inspire and justify action in liberty’s defense.”
Yet this is a total myth, as much as “Columbus discovered America.”
The truth is that Magna Carta was a document for the nobles, by the nobles. No one gave a damn about the common people.
The document outlined numerous privileges and protections for nobles, including lower taxes, freedom from wanton imprisonment, and due process.
(Curiously Magna Carta also mandated widespread deforestation across England.)
Yet virtually all of these wonderful rights specifically excluded the serfs. Magna Carta only entitled the Nobles to freedom.
Very little has changed.
Eight centuries later, we still have nobles who come from political-banking dynasties… House Clinton, House Bush, House Goldman… all living above the commoners.
Meanwhile governments and police are still extorting people, confiscating their property through civil asset forfeiture, imprisoning them for victimless crimes, and waging pointless wars abroad.
Sure we can sing songs about our freedom. But that doesn’t make it true.
Neither does writing down freedoms on a piece of paper.
Governments’ behavior shows that they couldn’t possibly care less about any rights that were written down in some centuries-old charter.
Just because it’s in a document doesn’t mean they’ll adhere to it.
And that was perhaps the most humorous irony at the exhibit. At the very end they had an original Magna Carta from 800 years ago. But it’s been so worn away with time that it was completely illegible.
I chuckled and thought to myself, “That’s about right.”
But here’s the thing: we don’t need a piece of paper to tell us that we’re free.
Human beings are born free. Freedom isn’t handed to us by kings or politicians. It’s not awarded by contract.
Freedom is natural. And we don’t have to wait around for House Clinton or King Barry First of His Name to grant it to us.
It’s fine to write it down. But if people don’t truly care about being free, the document will amount to nothing but an illegible artifact at a museum exhibit.
Each of us has the ability to do something to take back our freedom. All the tools and resources already exist.
It’s the Digital Age. We’re no longer bound by geography. Banks. Governments. Even borders themselves. They’re all becoming increasingly irrelevant.
This is powerful stuff, and critically important to take advantage of while things are still ‘normal’.
Right now it’s pretty clear that the temperature is rising. People are starting to wake up to the fact that, when it really counts, they’re no more free than a medieval serf.
They pay taxes at gunpoint. They have no access to real justice.
And many of the most important aspects of their lives, from the value of their savings to their medical care to the way they’re allowed to educate their own children, are tightly controlled.
If the surge in riots and anti-government violence is any indicator, it looks like history may be repeating itself. And we may soon be reaching our own Runnymede moment.
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This was a rarity: a Simon Black piece worth reading.
I still don't follow the conclusion. What's left of the PTA and the soccer moms are not out in the street... much less at the polls. I guess they're too busy balancing their checkbooks while watching the e channel and texting. By the time the ignorant realize what has happened Bruce will be Katelyn and Hillary will be the puppet in chief.
Freedom in American is really dependent on the state of your wallet.
Exactly... but the magna carta was the template for many private property rights... those the author references protesting don't know or even agree with the right. But I guess one can be free of property as well as resposinility... vote democrat... unless you are of the nobligee... then bundle.
snowden 2016
I upped you but don't think Snowden would be a good choice. He seems nice.
Vote Republican.
I need more TPP for my bungholehole.
That's what I was thinking the whole time. Then it reached the end without making much of a point, which was actually good, as it prevented it from reaching the typical Simon "states as service providers" point of incoherence that all of his other articles rally around.
It all comes down to consent of the governed. Don't give it if you cannot withdraw it.
+100
There's something here I'm missing, and maybe someone can fill me in.
OK, so the '.01%' forced King John, the '.001%', to give them broader 'rights', while still screwing the 99.9%.
If King John was such an ass, why has every US President, other than Van Buren, been a member of King John's bloodline?
It might make sense if King John worked in concert with the nobles to instigate the Magna Carta, but Kings don't normally give up any rights, other than by force, so I don't see the cooperation angle.
I can see the requirement in certain quarters that all US Presidents be 'of royal European blood', but why a despised King who 'gave up the farm' and not some King that history would respect?
Any ideas?
The only freedom anyone has is in their mind.
Physical freedom, freedom from tyranny, taxation without representation, freedom to travel accross borders, freedom to do at home as you please, freedom to raise your children, freedom to let your kids have a lemonade stand, are things people had at one time here and there, but not anymore.
Big mistake.
Any form of taxation denotes loss of freedom.
Freedom is an absolute, tyranny comes in degrees. - unknown.
You are thinking about it wrong. I am free in all those things in absolute. Freedom can only be infringed, fined, made uncomfortable to ensure compliance but never removed.
The choice is still everyone's to submit. Kinda shitty to realize, but the only thing that takes away freedom is ourselves. But the part that gives me hope is we don't need anyone to take it back either.
Yup, each and every one of us chooses to obey or ignore every law we encounter.
Which of course, means that ALL written laws are unnecessary, existing only to subjugate one person under the threat of violence from another for failing to uphold them.
Say, now there's a revolutionary idea, just don't get yourself dissappeared repeating it. ^.^
Education can alleviate the slavery of the elite...
"An educated man isn't fit for slavery." - Malcom X
I hear Billary has a plan to make y'all moar free
"Be careful ryan. Some things in here don't react to well to bullets."
Connery's lip smacking during the dinner scene is among the most repulsive scenes in modern cinema.
Everything he does is repulsive. I won't watch a movie he appears in.
I quit watching movies (and TV shows) as I got tired of being programmed.
...why does liz warren (aka fauxcahontas) get away with claiming to be whatever she wants? perhaps liz was faux-priveledged from her harvard years and being faux-alumni with faux-bama?
Old money needs no history, and that's because they keep that money quietly in the family and their wealth is stored in many corporations.
The serfs can't rise above serfdom because their corporate world (Ruled by The Nobles & Elite) governs us all, they have a hegemony over every facet of life, and the elite manipulate everyone & everything through and through, also thanks to surveillance, spying, and hacking, well they can accomplish it to a greater extent now, especially when they mandate digital currency. Indeed, they are driving the world to a nice little mouse trap, one where there is only the aroma of cheese, but no real reward, and the serfs will work all day for food, believe that.
The wise will see the evil and hide themselves, fools will walk on and be severely punished, but those who wait upon the Lord shalld be saved. I fear not death, nor poison, or anything those royals & nobles care to dictate to me, just like you can't get blood from a turnip, neither can you extract money from those who are unwilling to work for it!
MonetaryApostate
Uh ......... WHAT???
Maybe,just maybe the chickens are hopefully returning to the roost. Milestones
Don't get yourselves put in FEMA camps, they want people to be foolish, and so the outrageous will continue (Cops shooting people at will), until of course someone is foolish enough to actually start a riot, then of course you will be Jade Helmed...
Every prairie fire requires the initial spark of activation energy to get burning. Today is no exception.
I'm afraid with poverty so vastly immense today, there is not enough fuel to keep the fire buring.
(Meaning they will run out of resources or means to win long before the wealthy will...)
However, something tells me Russia, China, and India have a serious bone to pick!!!!!! ^.^
They have been building a blood lust for some time. Really wont take much to spark violence. And violence will fuel the aggenda. At least in the beginning. Where we go from there is real question. Those who are pulling the strings are playing with fire. There is no precident for what they are doing. Nothing on this scale ever in human history. And frankly, they are making it up as they go. Too many people tugging on the strings and trying to affect the outcome. This IS the sort of place where TPTB (and wealthy) wind up with thier heads on pikes.
Not the Russell Crowe version?
In those days we had real kings chosen by God and endorsed by the Holy Mother Church. Not a bunch of self important twerps.
The MugYa Carte Blanche
DELUDED.
SHIT HAND + SHIT POKER FACE = FUCKED
And queue the Chorus...
"But without the greatest and brightest...
There will be such unfathomable unrest...
There will be no progress...
For all of you unless...
You pay us...
For injustice..."
They really believe they are the primary organizing force of humanity, and that their parasitism is in someway beneficial...despite the tremendous examples from the renaissance that when their predation is removed humanity's rise accelerates.
A series of frescoes painted by Ambrogio Lorenzetti from around February 26, 1338 to May 29, 1339.[1] The frescoes are painted in the Renaissance style, but with a Medieval touch to it. The paintings are located in the Sala dei Nove (Salon of Nine or Council Room) in the Palazzo Pubblico (or Town Hall) of the city of Siena, Italy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Allegory_of_Good_and_Bad_Government
I love the romantic idea of the surfs rising up and topelling the nasty globalist tyrants, but it ain't going to happen. People will live under the most excruciating conditions and still do nothing. You only have to go a short way back to East Germany to see what people will put up with. That regime was only toppled because the globalists, namely George Sorros et. al. wanted their dirty mits on Russia's resources.
To prove I'm right uptick me if you'd be willing to kill someone for the struggle and down tick me if you're happy to keep your mouth shut and carry on.
Just watched a report on papua new guinea. The country is totally out of control. Corruption at every level of government, rapes, killings, torture for witchcraft etc..., one woman had her baby aborted with hot iron rods, her anus and vagina obliterated, the ordeal lasted for 2 days. This apparantly is a common treatment. And nobody is doing nothing, people just keep on keeping on. Get fuckin real everyone, us fat lazy Westerners will do nothing, but post bullshit on websites like this.
Sounds horrible, and I'm sorry for the woman that you cite in your example.
I just hired an Iraq war veteran. He got medically retired after getting hurt in '08, but his ex gets the better part of the check. He has some issues from the war, but I've been there and done that (no, not Iraq-- at least this time), so I kinda know what to expect.
You'll find a lot of people on this website are well-informed and care about issues that affect all of us. Many do believe in the adage, "Think global, act local." One can often learn quite a bit from reading these comment sections.
I was just convicted on a misdameanor DV charge. My wife begged the DA not to prosecute, refused their 16 requests to put a restraining order on me. They threatened to take our son away if she would not coorperate in my prosecution. She fled the state for four months so that she could not be subpeonaed to testify against me and her statements to the cops couldn't be used (she was mad and made some shit up) in the trial. I spent $25,000 fighting this, the DA had zero evidence, made up a story and got the jury to belive his "wasn't there made up version" of events over mine. The kicker was allowing the jury to hear my wife crying on the 911 tape. Once they played that, it was over. Jury didn't care about the lack of evidence, I was guilty. They have a 100% arrest and 100% prosecution policy here in this county. If my employer finds out, my job is done and nobody will hire me again. And they illegally used the 911 tape when they should not be allowed because the defense can't question the caller as to state of mind or emotion. The DA gets to decide what the emotion is. The whole process has ruined my family, and destroyed us financially. Since my county instituted a Zero Tolerance 100% prosecution policy, DV cases went from 10% of their prosecutorial load to 40%, over-night. Good luck bitchez. Nobody is safe, anyone can be sucked into the system.
BTW, with this conviction I lose the right to own firearms forever.
It's always interesting watching the 'Wheels of Justice' work themselves personally, both for yourself and watching others in the Courtroom, taking their turn, to get boned in the butt, by the State. These days, they make a 'Misdemeanor' out to be nearly a Felony. DUI is an example. Man (take it from me), they will rake you, rape you and spit you out. I was fortunate that I had enough of a credit card limit, to hire a Century City/Wilshire Blvd Lawyer to defend me on my case. It took a year to get to trial and we were ready, but at the last moment, they relented and made a deal. I'll take the 'Dry Reckless' over a DUI any day, that's for sure. And you are correct, nobody is safe. Saw some black guy, there on Parole or Probation at one of the hearings. He wes there on a DUI, which is a Misdemeanor. It took all of ten seconds to put him behind the wall. Bam. Nope, the system now, as you pointed out is designed to extract as much out of your ass as possible, damn the consequences. Back in the day, the cops would pull you over, dump whatever you had in the car and tell you to get out of here. Not anymore. Now it's about maximizing the arrest experience, bail, bondsman, fines, court fees and everything else. I still got to go to three months of Alcohol classes (12 total), six Alcohol Anon classes and a MADD course...
Dup
I am at present ensconced in a lovely restaurant not far from Runnymead.
I didn't bother going to the river to possibly watch are present day King 'Barry O' paddle by with mistress Liz.
I despair at the thought that serfs still cheer in gratitude for their rights they believe said elites gave them.
Let them the elites roast their pig tonight and enjoy
Perhaps one day the pig/serf will get there revenge!
But alas for now "pigs might fly"
Oh well back to my 'ruby Murray'
Actually the Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP) is pretty close to the modern version of the Magna Carta! It grants new, special rights and privileges to the modern version of the nobles: the multinational corporations who are now a multinational law unto themselves. The common workers of today(the 99%) are shackle to the corporations as workers and debt slaves as the serfs of old were shackled to the land and manors of the nobles. History rimes!
Whether sitting in my recliner, slowly dying on the revolutionary battlefield, or withering away in a Zionist basement cell, I am free.
See you on the battlefield.
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission.
"You're Treading On Me."
The US government will only understand one thing...not getting paid.
"The truth is that Magna Carta was a document for the nobles, by the nobles. No one gave a damn about the common people.... Very little has changed."
Hmmmm. I seem to recall a revolution or 2 predicated on that other truth about about the Magna Carta, namely, that the rule of law trumps the rule of man.
In the U.S., that precedent formally stood until December 2012, when Eric Holder announced that the admitted criminals at HSBC wouldn't be prosecuted because the bank was "systemically important" or whatever other pseudoscientific nonsense talk it was that Holder invoked to exulpate his private practice clients.
No one ever said the rule of law was perfectly enforced. Its value lay in its force as principle; it was a means to hold our leaders feet to the fire to demand equal application of the laws. And it worked for damn near 800 years, obviously predating the U.S.
To dismiss the Magna Carta like Black does, without mentioning its FORMAL rescission by Holder and his gang of criminal globalists, is just idiotic.
I agree. At the time it was written the Magna Carta was written for the benefit of the nobles, but a few generations later as the English navy started to expand England into an empire, I believe the Navy officers held to the Magna Carta, extending its rights to the people they encountered. And those people often saw England as something they wanted to be part of.
Empires cannot stand if the people can't stand it. Lessons forgotten may be relearned the hard way.
Very good Rhal.
My own writing has been touching on a few of these ideas, so I'm going to vote on your article/post here.
"We’re no longer bound by geography. Banks. Governments. Even borders themselves. They’re all becoming increasingly irrelevant."
Would opine that your summary is actually weaker than it has to be:
- Right now People are starting to wake up to the fact that, they’re no more free (well maybe, yes some are, yes, there are organized groups, yes, the internet has provided a medium for this, but who can say if responsibility will come back into fashion, Wealth & Power clearly rule, it is as if a power similar to that of King George was plotting to take power from the USA, that the establishment of a US Central Bank and US participation in WWI & WWII was due to British Influence, and that Trade Treaties today are to strip wealth from the USA and remove Sovereignty from the USA, it appears the USA is now the Joke of Wealthy Interest whether English or European or Jewish or Chinese or whatever).
- They pay taxes at gunpoint. (might be over-played here although we have little choice as USG inserts fees, paperwork, complex regulations, & ACA)
- And many of the most important aspects are tightly controlled (yes, in the sense that we have no choice on high costs & no Federal Power is holding down costs/While charging us for Illegal Immigrant use of infrastructure)
- If the surge in riots and anti-government violence is any indicator (No, these typically don't seem to matter, but LBJ did support many social programs to everyone's surprise, but which seemed to be well deserved due to the activism, protests, and social inequality)
"Under British rule for 32 years, in which the British had expropriated the common land of the peasantry and reduced them to extreme poverty. The Kandyan villagers were forced to abandon their traditional way of life and become wage-workers in the abominable conditions that prevailed on these new estates and plantations that had been introduced, despite all the pressure exerted by the colonials the Kandyans refused. This forced the British to bring in hundreds of thousands of Tamil coolies from southern India."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kandy#Colonial_era
ZH had a good article last week about cartoon version of why TPP, TAP, TTIP(T-TIP), TISA, TAA, TPA are a bad idea. I figure we are sending dollars to China and others and we end up selling our property & assets & Debts to foreign countries.
Hell that sounds like shit!!
http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/international/intinv/iip_glance.htm (wow huge trend, $31 Trillion in Foreign Property owned in the USA vs $24 Trillion of US owned Property in Foreign Countries)
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Federal Debt Held by Foreign & International Investors as Percent of Gross Domestic Product, 2014:Q4: 34.75940 Percent of GDP,
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/HBFIGDQ188S
Current Account Balance: Total Trade of Goods for the United States©, 2013: -703,911,000,000 US Dollars,
Sum Over Component Sub-periods (2013 was last data),
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/BPBLTD01USA637S
47 minute quality video if you want to learn about the historical context of the period:
Magna Carta: UVA Law Professor A. E. Dick Howard And William & Mary Law Professor Tom McSweeney Discuss The Impact Of Magna Cartahttp://thenewsdoctors.com/?p=470003
Curiously Magna Carta also mandated widespread deforestation across England.
Is the author a dummy who is mistaking a limit on Forest Law for deforestation??
There are no footnotes on the original either. The Tylers let a lot of wack jobs like Black in here.