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The Second Nuclear Arms Race Arrives: Russia Will Add 40 ICBMs In 2015 In Response To "NATO Encroachment"
With the US and Russia in a state of (renewed) cold war for over a year now, it was inevitable that that "other", far more important attribute of the first Cold War would soon return: the nuclear arms race.
And indeed it did just around dinner time in Russia today when speaking at an arms race fair, president Putin said that Russia will put more than 40 new intercontinental ballistic missiles into service in 2015 as part of a wide-reaching program to modernize the military.
The move is in response to what Russia has slammed as an aggressive expansion of military presence in NATO states in Eastern Europe, which as we reported yesterday would provoke Russia to respond by stationing its army on its western borders. To wit: "stationing heavy U.S. military equipment in the Baltic states and eastern Europe would amount to "the most aggressive step by the Pentagon and NATO" since the Cold War, Interfax news agency quoted a Russian Defense Ministry official as saying on Monday. "Russia would be left with no other option but to boost its troops and forces on the western flank," General Yuri Yakubov was quoted as saying.
And since nuclear escalation usually takes place in a tit-for-tat mutual defection regime, earlier it was reported that the “the U.S. is preparing a set of various measures, and among them the placement of heavy weaponry in Poland and other countries will be very important,” according to Polish defense minister Romaz Siemoniak.
And sure enough Russia, which it says is merely responding to NATO escalation, was promptly accused of escalating even more by the same NATO that keeps parking its own forces ever since the US-orchestrated Ukraine presidential coup was meant to convert Kiev into a potential NATO country and military base.
Nato and Western leaders accuse Russia of sending soldiers and heavy weapons, including tanks and missiles, to the pro-Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine. Russia has repeatedly denied this, insisting that any Russians fighting there are "volunteers".
Later on Tuesday, Nato Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said that the statement from Mr Putin was "confirming the pattern and behaviour of Russia over a period of time; we have seen Russia is investing more in defense in general and in its nuclear capability in particular". He said: "This nuclear sabre-rattling of Russia is unjustified, it's destabilising and it's dangerous."
And just to stabilize things, NATO may well deploy some of its own tactical nukes in the region as a deterrence measure now that the second nuclear arms race is fully up and running. To be sure Stoltenberg essentially admitted that the next retaliation by NATO countries will also be a nuclear one: that "what Nato now does in the eastern part of the alliance is something that is proportionate, that is defensive and that is fully in line with our international commitments."
Here, from the BBC, is an estimate of Russia's existing nuclear arsenal:
- Military stockpile of approximately 4,500 nuclear warheads
- These include nearly 1,800 strategic warheads deployed on missiles and at bomber bases
- Another 700 strategic warheads are in storage along with roughly 2,700 non-strategic warheads
- A large number - perhaps 3,500 - of retired, but still largely intact warheads await dismantlement
In conclusion, and as a reminder, none of this is new: we reported back in December 2013 that as one of the first nuclear moves in the current Cold War 2.0 arms race, Russia stationed nuclear-capable Iskander (ss-26) missile launchers along the polish border to deter the US missile defense system in Poland.
As such, all that the current second nuclear arms race needs is a spark.
Incidentally, recall from our post last night on how back in 1937 a comparable Fed rate hike such to the one the Fed is currently contemplating, led to a 50% crash in the stock market. More importantly, less than two years later, World War II broke out.
One hopes this time be different.
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Mario Draghi can use his "bazooka": ECJ Ruling
http://www.politico.eu/article/ecb-legal-court-government-bonds/
Can’t we just print 40-50 ICBMs? ;-)
Looney
By their very massive existance DOD will always do something that keeps itself relevant at the expense of who cares.
two hoots a newbie shill. Don't be confused.
Same shit as the cold war.
The US was the aggressor then and it's the aggressor now.
I know this kind of talk plays well here for some, but ask the Czechs, Poles and Romanians who the aggressors were in the Cold War.
It was called "Cold" War for a reason and I wonder what Vietnamese would have to say ?
WHY DON'T THE POLES KICK THE PSYCHOPATHS OUT? DON'T THEY REMEMBER THE LAST TIME?
I've asked Poles this question before, and they just give a blank smile and shrug.
They remember nothing since most of their leadership was mysteriously killed 2010 in a plane crash while visiting Russia. The strange thing is how the USSA benefited, pure co incidence of course.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Polish_Air_Force_Tu-154_crash
So the Russians can review the flight recorder information in a day, but nothing yet from the Dutch about MH17?
"On the day after the crash, investigators said they had reviewed the flight recorders, and confirmed that there were no technical problems with the Soviet-built aeroplane, ruling out initial theories that the 20-year-old aircraft was at fault." (Wiki)
June 3, 2015
"The Russian maker of the Buk air defence missile system says it has concluded that Malaysian Airlines flight 17 was downed by an older version of the missile. It says the type is not in service with the Russian military but is in Ukrainian arsenals."
http://www.mintpressnews.com/surprising-new-evidence-emerges-in-malaysia...
I wish I could figure out thier End Game? World Domination or World Depopulation, or both.
It is so comforting to know that the Peace Prize President and his merry men (that includes Hillary and Vicky) drove the Russians into putting on a few more megatons of brighter than a thousand suns.
Please don't inject reality. The trolls can't handle it
Probably the same things as the Afghanis. Empires will act imperial 'n shit.
Hungarians and what not. Having said that, at this point in time, US is much more encroached in Russia's soft underbelly than Russia in America's. Last time USSR got overextended, around this time it's American turn. The outcome will be quite similar if not worse (i.e. definitely worse).
they'd say "we picked the wrong side" if they weren't totally dominated by the Chinese
As "cold" a war as it was, there was plenty of shooting going on. We know, for example of several submarines that were sunk, military aircraft destroyed, and commercial airliners also destroyed in the fray. I have met people involved in incidents of this sort. Shooting depended upon opportunistic circumstances and the desire to test-and-demo the latest technology.
Attack submarines followed missile submarines at outrageously close distances (tens of feet at times) and at least one US sub returned to port with a Russian propeller embedded in it (but shrouded in canvas).
Commercial airplanes were often test-and-demo targets. I know of an FAA inspector involved in the downing of a commercial plane in Alaska, who understands the reason was "counter-warfare" electronics from a submarine that had surfaced in the sound below the approach path, causing the apparent radar image of the rocky cliffs to rotate deceptively. Plane hit cliff.
It went on all the time. It was rarely, and then only disinformation or accident, when it appeared in US media. Those "lost" submarines?! Those aircraft "accidents"?! Yeah, maybe and maybe not. Do you think the pentagon would not do such a thing?
Same shit as always.
Anusocracy answers the dog whistle when Puutie calls.
You might recall that Russia / USSR was the state that had that Iron Curtain. Was it East Germany which built the Berlin Wall?
Puutie is stupid enough to believe that Stalinism was a success for the country.
USSR was always the agressor and Puutie is continuing down that losing path. Back to an emploding economy and assassinations.
You might also not that the US has not added any nuclear weapons for decades.
Keep telling the lies to keep getting paid.
Funny how Stalin invaded USSR on 22 June 1941..........that was just before FDR had those Japanese ships attacked at Pearl Harbour
You mean, right after when we learned the Japanese were approaching?
UsSR is always the aggressor?
Lol what country are you from to be that deluded from reality? C'mon let us know.
Um, dumbass, you're the one that pops up on every Putin/Russia post. Troll much? Hope nobody is paying you, they would be getting cheated.
1) The Soviet Union and Russia are two different entities - like the Roman Empire and Italy.
2) Putin is stupid enough to believe that Stalinism was a success for the country. And 99% of Americans and all politicians think Lincoln was great for America. So?
3) The defining moment of the Cold War was the US staging tactical nukes in Turkey which precipitated the Cuban Missile Crisis. That is the basic behavior the US exhibited the entire Cold War. As for economies, the US is trying to destroy Russia's economy. Just more of the same aggressive behavior.
4) You have absolute proof the US has not added any nukes for decades? Or are you believing what the known liar US is claiming? Useless dupe behavior at best.
You are dumber than shit. I despise ALL GOVERNMENTS and the worst ones the most. I also hate true-believer idiots like you.
+100 for "True Believer Idiots." Got one of those in my family. Ask any question, and the response is essentially "BECAUSE AMERKA!"
Note the recent ramp-up of insipid programming like Harrison Ford's Air Force One on network television: propaganda for the True Believer Idiots.
I have them too, unfortunately.
It's not worth talking to them so I do my best to ignore them.
The best part of that movie was the fake escape pod from the Apollo missions....
Guess who's building a new "iron curtain"?
Yes, NATO and their neo-nazi and oligarch puppets in Ukraine.
In spite of the half-truth of the Independent, it's to keep people from fleeing towards the free economic zone outside the NATO/IMF/BIS controlled sferes.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/new-iron-curtains-motivat...
AUGUSTUS IMBECILE !!!
You are very stupid creature. You must be that moron I named Reek a while back then, hm? You stupid scumbag! No matter how many times you get an educational response to your vommited stupidity, you always keep vomitting more shit. Perhaps your shithole is where you mought ought to be, hm, Reek? ehehehe You stupid fuck!
"The US was the aggressor then and it's the aggressor now."
Yeah sunny skies in Cambodia, China, Russia, North Korea.
From now on I'll stick to the occasional article. Most in the comment section on this site have clearly lost the plot.
Blabam, it's about power. You have your head obviously stuck in the cold war, and all it's propaganda bullshit.
The "model" of those who control the western "economies" (or what's left of them) want Europe to fight with Russia, and screw the economic ties.
Don't believe that? Well... they say so themselves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeLu_yyz3tc
It's because of people like you, that are too complacent to do some research, that we're moving towards a completely meaningless war, that will obliterate our civilisation.
PLEASE GET A CLUE?
Please take Anusocracy with you. Kind of a Two-fer Tuesday.
and kindly also take augustus aka amrikan patriot witha you too
Shit; I'm an idiot. I meant to say take Augustus, which is why I just DV'ed myself; there and here.
I think you should stick that hairy snout right next to Reek's asshole (that would be his mouth, so you wouldn't get confused, ehehe) in order to help that stupid SOB a little, hm? It might do some good to you as well... dags are helpful creatures as we all know! Now be a useful dog and clean Reek's ass... mouth! ehehehe
Thank you Dear Leader Obama for making the world hate, and disrespect, the U.S.
We don't hate the US, nor do we hate the people of the US.
We're fed up, that's for sure, of the lies, propaganda and complacency of those that still believe "exceptionalism" and that this is somehow viable.
And personally I'm surprised, not just by the sheer stupidity of the majority of US citizens, elite and militairy but even more of the european ones, who willingly screw up their own future prosperity and, if it really goes pearshaped their progeny.
The level of stooopidd is just stunning!
Draghi using a Bazooka? Lol, he is even afraid of confetti.
Boy, I sure am glad that Hildabeast allowed the Ruskies to buy our uranium mines in order to line her own pockets. Way to go, Bitch.
Are you nuts? Russian uranium has fuelled US nuclear reactors for more than a decade.
The Nuclear industry and the dark forces that control it (I'm still not knowledgable about who or what that is exactly) are above the petty national, or even emperical conflicts. Those are contrived, set up.
They want to sweep the planet from our species. No one, no human elite would benefit from a biotope filled with nanosized uranium and plutonium particles.
Maybe they're completely insane? That seems to be the case.
Dr Strangelove was not fiction. We see a repeated pattern now.
With one giant diffence.
The M.A.D. doctrine (mutually assured destruction) is gone.
The Pentagon is openly laying out plans of action to start launching. A pre-emptive strike.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/06/04/us-usa-russia-pentagon-idUSKBN...
Now you could say: I hope they succeed, it's them (Russia, China, other BRICS) or us.
WRONG
Fallout doesn't stop at the border. IF they start any large scale conflict, this planet will be uninhabitable practically forever.
And that will be the fault of the american and european public first, because they're too STUPID to realize they're being used as puppets.
It's that simple.
"IF they start any large scale conflict, this planet will be uninhabitable practically forever."
Actually not true. Many will die, but that is by design, see Georgia Guidestones.
Nuclear weapons are designed to use up all their energy as fast as possible. Most fallout will dissapte in a month or so. Now if you don't have a place to shelter, that will be bad for you.
However, if you prepare (and believe me the Oligarchs are preparing for this), you have time to save yourself and your family.
Are you out of your mind? "Most fallout will dissipate in a month or so" You better study up a little more before you graduate from middle school. Unless, of course, the Georgia Guidestones say so.
All the world's a stage.......
And the sheeple, stagehands.
two hoots a newbie shill. Don't be confused.
What, you don't like theatre? Are you not entertained?? ;)
No its like watching paint dry.
Fukushima spewing radioactivity unabated...
Countries failing
States failing
Record droughts
Bruce jenner
Sure lets add more ICBM's just what we need...what an idiot race..
Was that Haiku, or War Pigs... either way excellent prose!
If only these "jobs programs" focused on nuclear fusion with the same intensity...
Thorium dude... Thorium..
Sure, been hearing that for 30+ years...
wake us when it actually happens.
Thorium will still make deadly untreatable pollution by the tonne...
AS WILL FUSION.
Nuclear technology was a trap, and we walked into it.
That's going to stop the US drive for World Empire?
"That's going to stop __________ drive for world empire." - Hey asshat, pick your favorite country/oligarch.
What a fucking douchebag. Such "drive" will never be eliminated you stupid fuck.
Obviously you have not put much thought into the difficulty of creating a world government and which country is far in the lead for doing so.
BTW, a lot of thinking went into that nice comment. Your mother would be proud.
Now go take your meds.
Ex-Communist Russia is surrounded by 1.3B Chinese, Islam and bankrupt Socialists that owe them money, 40 aint enough, actual number closer to 1000
you go Vlad, fuck these Zio scumbags
Thank fuck I've been drinking since 9am (the days I don't have to work). This world is fucking hopelessly fucked, I don't even know where to begin to fix it (that's a lie, I do but it's impossible).
How's the day-trading treating you?
Never been dumb enough to be involved in the stock market and I declined the 401 at the jobs I've held and then quit.
I might post more after I wake up in a few hours (it's great getting hammered at 3pm, does the body good)...
Putin is a stupid moron if he is really wasting his people´s money and wealth for ICBM´s. That´s exactly what the US neocons want him to do. Destroying the Russian economy by another arms race, so the US companies can pick up the Russian resources and assets for a few pennies in the end.
The US is broke dipshit and Russia doesn't need anything from it - especially its evanescent fiat IOUs.
Puutie and Maduro following the same economic program.
Russia probably won't have toilet paper by end of year.
Two commie crooks with the same failed otcome.
The US will have toilet paper galore with "In God We Trust" on every sheet
Modernisation is key - these things shouldn't corrode. How old are US Minutemen ?
- 40 years old
Obama is actually a fucking moron - and the assholes he has working for him who lived through the years of MAD and miss it so much they want to have their kids live through it as well - all of the Pentagram's "bold" maneuvers to "protect" countries in Eastern Europe from Russian "aggression" where there are not thousands of troops and vehicles, actually gives Putin the impetus and political support at home to do what he is doing. As for destroying their economy, they have China backing them up now more than MSM cares to admit.
I don't think South China Sea and the Ukraine are completely unrelated issues.
No sovereign state can exist without strong army, you retard! You Western scum want Russia to have no army, moron! That is the biggest Western desire! Without an army, a country becomes an easy pray; and especially nowadays no sovereign nation should be without strong army, as Westerners are running berserk!
Now why don't you go and find some Murican dick to suck, hm?! Make love, not war, as you morons like to say! Must be a time for your daily dose of that libtard medicine! ehehehe
So long Latvia. Sorry I never got to visit your republic :(
I hear you aren't missing much.
I hear the potatoes are wonderful
Doesnt this break some treaty or something????
If Russia does something, it breaks a treaty. The US never breaks treaties. Ask any Native American.
Put all 40 on DC
-Signed, most of ZH.
maybe tactical warheads on Scarsdale NY and Tenafly NJ... just to get rid of the real scum
This is what is so absolutely surreal about U.S. and NATO provocation. An intercontinental nuclear attack makes conventional armies irrelevant. These weapons can be directed at the elites who control the government. Vaporize the controling elites and the reason for conflict goes away. Certainly much of a nuclear attack would be directed at destroying the enemy's nuclear forces, but only with the objective of protecting the elites who have ordered the attack. This is the entire point of all the planning exercises that have as their objective "winning a nuclear war." In the U.S. the targets are highly concentrated in the office and residential areas of the D.C. beltway as well as selected zip codes in Manhattan Island, selected NYC suburbs, selected zip codes in Chicago, West Los Angeles, Beverly Hills, San Francisco and Silicon Valley.
The idea is to avoid destroying the productive assets, including defense plants, but to kill the leaders, especially the billionaires and neocons. Most infantry bases in the U.S. are entirely irrelevant, while missle bases, submarine bases and other command and control facilities are prime targets.
The point is that modern weapons make the decisionmakers the prime target. Our U.S. elites pushing for war are delusional because in the next war with Russia or China, they are the front line "soldiers" who are first to be killed. It is no longer possible to hide behind ordinary middle and working class soldiers and win using them as cannon fodder.
There is no NATO provocation.
Puutie has invaded Georgia.
Puutie has annexed Crimea.
Puutie has invaded Ukraine.
He should fear some retaliation at this point. However O'Bungles will do nothing.
Sorry, but Russia does not have dozens of military bases surrounding the U.S. in close proximity. Russia does not have a thousand billionaire and CIA funded NGOs working to topple the U.S. government.
Puutie has invaded the North Pole to make Santa an offer he can't refuse.
Puutie has invaded my sister and soon I will have a Puutie niece or nephew.
Puutie has invaded everywhere the USSA Pravda outlets say he did, and we don't need any proof to believe them, because they never abuse the public trust and we never caught them lying before.
Puutie has imagined Russia as an independent country and doesn't give a fuck what you or Washington thinks about it. Incredibly, the majority of Russians support this. We spend so much time berating the sellout drones in DC and suddenly when they say so, we believe whatever they say about some foreign country and the "threat" to our way of life. Again and again and again. Like clockwork retards.
The sky is falling! O'Bungles has done enough already by just getting involved in the first place.
Leaders used to lead, now they hide and are smug.
Nukes have put them at the front again.
http://thebulletin.org/what-would-happen-if-800-kiloton-nuclear-warhead-...
"Moved down to Scarsdale, where the hell am I...?"
Tenafly? No one making any real decisions live in tenafly. The only thing tenafly has is a bunch of rich Jews..and that town quickly went to shit shortly after I left for college. I grew up in Alpine NJ (people with real power actually live their), upon visiting some old friends in tenafly after graduating I saw franchises and black people...something you would have never seen a decade ago. People used to call the police if they saw a black guy in town. The town never allowed a franchise for fear it would bring in outsiders (poor people).
Plus if you hit NYC with a nuke..Bergen county NJ is done for anyway
Stoltenburg and BreedHate or Dumber and Dumber. Clueless and Classless Cunts.
Anyone remember J.R. Nyquist? The anti-Russian "conspiracy theorist" that wrote a book citing Russian defectors (Anatoliy Golitsyn) stating that Perestroika and the fall of the Soviet Union was all a ruse to lure the West into complacency and reallocate Russian/Soviet resources?
I bet he's just fucking shitting himself with glee over all this.
Origins of the Fourth World War: And the Coming Wars of Mass Destruction Paperback – July, 1998
Not that he's necessarily right...http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2015...
Nice Hat!
like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UXx8Qjo4Vs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cObY7f0q--E
If I'm a nuclear-capable European country faced with being obliterated owing to ego or fat fingers, I would have a difficult time deciding whether to aim my nukes at Russia or the US.
If you actually were a "nuclear-capable European country faced with being obliterated owing to ego or fat fingers", I am fairly certain that you would not hesitate to aim your nukes at the US. All legitimate surveys indicate the world views the US as the greatest threat to global peace. I agree with the surveys wholeheartedly. Also, the US has absolutely cornered the market on all things related to fat and ego.
There are 535 cocksuckers in congress and then the executive branch in DC that all need to be vanished into thin air. Good place for a tactical nuke
I'd be fairly certain that a Trident in a British sub has 'no fly home' programming.
Probably hit London if it got US co-ordinates!
Ukraine and the Apocalyptic Risk of Propagandized Ignorance By David Swanson Global Research, June 16, 2015With some 17,000 nuclear bombs in the world, the United States and Russia have about 16,000 of them. The United States is aggressively flirting with World War III, the people of the United States have not the foggiest notion of how or why, and authors Natylie Baldwin and Kermit Heartsong explain it all quite clearly. Go ahead and tell me there’s nothing you’re now spending your time on that’s less important than this.
This book may very well be the best written one I’ve read this year. It puts all the relevant facts — those I knew and many I didn’t — together concisely and with perfect organization. It does it with an informed worldview. It leaves me nothing to complain about at all, which is almost unheard of in my book reviews. I find it refreshing to encounter writers so well-informed who also grasp the significance of their information.
Nearly half the book is used to set the context for recent events in Ukraine. It’s useful to understand the end of the cold war, the irrational hatred of Russia that pervades elite U.S. thinking, and the patterns of behavior that are replaying themselves now at higher volume. Stirring up fanatical fighters in Afghanistan and Chechnya and Georgia, and targeting Ukraine for similar use: this is a context CNN won’t provide. The partnership of the neocons (in arming and provoking violence in Libya) with the humanitarian warriors (in riding to the rescue for regime change): this is a precedent and a model that NPR won’t mention. The U.S. promise not to expand NATO, the U.S. expansion of NATO to 12 new countries right up to the border of Russia, the U.S. withdrawal from the ABM Treaty and pursuit of “missile defense” — this is background that Fox News would never deem significant. U.S. support for the rule of criminal oligarchs willing to sell off Russian resources, and Russian resistance to those schemes — such accounts are almost incomprehensible if you’ve consumed too much U.S. “news,” but are explained and documented well by Baldwin and Heartsong.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/ukraine-and-the-apocalyptic-risk-of-propaga...
southern Chile is looking better and better every year
most of Chile will be underwater by 2020, i read that in nat Geo
Let me get this straight: The Russians have ballistic missiles targeted at Europe, so Europe has anti-ballistic missile missiles to defend themselves. Now the Russians are deploying anti-anti-ballistic missile missiles on the border, to defeat the defenses Europe has against the Russian ballistic missiles. Well, the solution is obvious, the Europeans just need to deploy anti-anti-anti ballistic missile missile missiles and everything will be just peachy.
It's amazing how much foreign policy has in common with a kindergarden recess... or was that a "Looney Tunes" cartoon?
I have a better solution. Fill 300 large trasport planes with Islamic fundamentalists and drop them over Mother Russia fully armed.
Wait...better yet. As the illegals cross the Southern border, fill up 300 large transport planes and drop them over Mother Russia with all their pestilence and gang banging ways.
A slow war of welfare attrition or a slightly quicker proxy war of ISIS in Russia. I should be promoted to head the State Department.
It's like toy collection. You buy an Iron Man action figure, and then the Mark 2 comes out, so you've gotta have that, then the Mark 3, and the Mark 4, and you gotta have the latest and greatest, shinier and more nifty and more expensive than the last, and pretty soon you hit Mark 45, but just wait, Mark 46 is coming out next year... The Military Industrial Complex is the toymaker, and their warhawk clientele, after accumulating bankster-financed toys of mass destruction for 50 years, threatened by looming dotage, want one last chance to take their biggest toys out of their boxes and use them against anyone who doesn't buy the same toys using the same credit card. The best part is that they get to steal a lot of stuff and kill a lot of people, and nobody ever holds them accountable, because the stupid masses can always be made to believe it's for "Glory" and "Freedom" or "God's Work" or "To Save The Planet" or whatever.
Poland is fucked !
That's what Polki (Polish girls) are good for.
nothing new, maybe they can learn a new position this time - reverse cowboy? venetian pedestal?
Intereting to note that the man in the Kremlin supports Argentina's mythical Malvinas claims. That claim is debunked: https://www.academia.edu/10490336/Argentinas_Illegitimate_Sovereignty_Claims
Obviously the world's largest owner of islands needs another in the Southern hemisphere to call its own
http://beforeitsnews.com/prophecy/2015/06/saint-odile-prophecy-on-ww3-th...
Times getting more and more crazy!
Now Zero Hedge has degenerated into the site for the posting of selections consider "Best of. . . " from
BeforeItsNews?
I thought Geo Wash was the only one stupid enough to source material from there.
I junked Klemens for posting an absurd link from, in this case - agreed, an absurd website.
But I junked you on principle.
You suck.
According to the scientists, both US and Russia have already so much nuclear power each, that only 5% from either arsenal is enough to destroy whole planet. So this move for either side seems dumb to me. If Mr. Putin really want to replace west, maybe he should invest more into domestic economy and start manufacturing products that rest of the world actually want.
invest more into domestic economy and start manufacturing products that rest of the world actually want.
So what does US manufacture ? What does UK manufacture ?
Do you use russian computer, russian car, russian cosmetics, russian white electronics, russian hifi, russian phone, russian clothes... ?
The rest of the world want to get some Russian weapons to protect from "democratization".
Imagine what 10 "Iskanders" can do when an aicraft carrier approaches the shores of your country to help explore for oil.
Rest of the world is buying weapons from both US and Russia. And thats not helping to improve quality of life for common person anyway.
Soooo, I guess this is Putin's answer to the question of whether Russia can get an erection......
Yes but your anus must be hurting now
That fixation of yours will lead you only to [gay] trouble.
You know, he has to do no such thing. He can park a couple nuclear subs in international waters, about 50 miles off the coast of Washington, London, and Tel Aviv.
They have more than enough weapons, along with China [and Pakistan for that matter - alas if only India and Pakistan could get over it - the dynamic changes tremendously in SE Asia] as is.
Spend your rubles on the Silk Road and oil, gas, and gold extraction in south central Siberia.
But taking a step back from all this, as a proverbial Joe 6 pack - this shit is getting scary. I'd love to think its all a show, all about the generals and the MIC getting fat budgets... but I don't think so. Go back and read Brookings position papers, or "The Grand Chessboard" - The "globalists" - i.e. for the most part the Anglo "Realists" - who are less and less tethered to reality, want to create a 'unipolar' world, with puppet aid organizations and small allies on tight leashes.
And Russians, and Chinese do not wish to be under the dominion of what looks to be, more or less, an Anglo-american-Israeli [Anglo-Zionist] regime. and who can blame them.
So the threat of a 'limited' nuclear war is quite real. Arguably, tactical nukes were in fact used in Syria by Israel, and thermobaric weapons were certainly used by the US in more than one theater - use of such weapons in an urban environment would be dizzingly horrifying.
The good news is that Obama will sign an executive order completely disarming our nuclear weapons. Peace through weakness always works (see Chamberlain)
I wish George Washington and the other founding fathers could be reincarnated for a few days to clean up DC (and supplied with heavy weapondry and an army of 1 million locked and loaded patriots). I doubt if more than an handful of Representatives, Senators, and Judges would escape the firing squad for being traitorous scum.
Peace through weakness always works (see Chamberlain)
Chamberlain the man that funded rearmament after 1935. The man that funded Radar, Rolls-Royce Merlin engines, factories, monoplanes like Spitfire and Hurricane, Lancaster bombers, the man that reintroduced conscription, the man who put anti-aircraft guns around London. The man that declared war on 3 Sept 1939 at 11am the day before FDR declared US neutrality.
just keep tweakin' those nukes (both in/out of space) vlad and keep the balls to use them if time comes.
On the one hand, I find it disappointing and depressing to see the prospect of war (even a cold one), the most insane activity known to man used as a solution to complex problems caused by a few psychopaths in power. On the other hand, I'm surprised it has taken Russia this long to wake up to the real and present threat from the zionazis in our midst considering all the shit they have pulled since 2013 directly against them in Syria and Ukraine.
Every time I think, "No, they wouldn't be that insane", on the verge of another US war in some part of the world, I am proved wrong and the warmongers kill hundreds of thousands to fortify their positions of power and profit from human misery. The expected screeching from the mainstream media to demonize Putin, Russia and to a slightly lesser extent, China is almost at fever pitch now - what would I do if I were in their positions? The banksters, the MIC and their political minions are going to kill us all to prevent them from facing the music when their system collapses I reckon. Their facade of solvency is flaking away every day and they are desperate to ivert attention away from themselves.
RE: adding nukes - better late than never
Zios wanna carve that huge piece of land (Russia) into profitable and manageable chunks. Extracting resources from there, FREE OF CHARGE.
Another 40 is not many, they already have around 800 land based and an unknown number submarine based.
And that's just ICBMs, does not include tactical nuclear weapons.
I am only opposed to nukes because they cause global warming.
There is a difference between words and actions that seems lost here, as saying a thing is seen as a more aggressive action when the actor is the West than actually doing it is when the actor is Russia.
Ukraine had T64's. Where did they get T72's in the Donetsk victory day parade???
Where are the M-1 tanks in Ukraine???? There aren't any. Where are they in any land bordering Russia? There aren't any.
Why are the words 'we might' put weapons stocks in countries we are treaty-bound to defend seen as equal to the ACTUAL deployment of nuclear weapons?
I am shaking my head.
That won't end well.
"Where did they get T72's in the Donetsk victory day parade?"
A gift from Ukraine, the POS that keeps on giving.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/ukraine/weapons.htm
They even have / had some T-80s and T-84s.
The T72 was made in a Ford factory in Kharkov in 1972. There are thousands of them from the days of the USSR, all over Ukraine.
FWIW, there's a new varient that's still being made and exported. There's more money to be made enstead of using it to kill off the population of Lugansk/Donetsk.
I take it that you're just ill informed rather than a hack.
Enjoy the show, this shit is comming your way soon.
Hillary/Bush for Pres !
Have to say, I am surprised that no one here realized (at least no one who posted that is) the meaning of all that North Atlantic Terrorist Organization's military build up in Europa. The reason for all that is to keep Europa under AngloMuricanoZionist control, so Europa wouldn't slip eastward... wouldn't break free. The AngloMuricano world is dying; it is in no position to keep expanding anymore, so now comes the time to try to keep what they have occupied you see. That is the real purpose of North Atlantic Terrorist Organization's activity of late -- it is to keep occupied lands from breaking free of Empire's control!
And the article is stupid beyond belief! Don't even want to go through all that pile of crap there, but on the matter of ICBMs, it is suffice to say that 40 is nothing. Soviet Union was able to produce thousands of ICBMs in one year alone, and Russia certainly hasn't lost anything of that capacity. Russia has tens of thousands of ICBMs, so stressing out 40 as some number which should "prove," as articles states, "nuclear arms race" is stupid beyond belief.
Let's not forget about our good buddy, CHINA. They basically have everything they own pointed at the USA and Europe.
Meanwhile we make them more powerful econoically by the minute
Yep -end times for the good ole USA.
What a fcking joke
America&EuropeNeedsAnuclearDickInTheirAssesForTheGreatestOrgasm
AnywayYouGuysAreNowAntiBible&ThusAntiGodByLegalizingHomosexuality
Let's not forget about our good buddy, CHINA. They basically have everything they own pointed at the USA and Europe.
Meanwhile we make them more powerful econoically by the minute while they send theor H1B workers here to suck the life out of America. Oh, and dont forget about all the scammers with their precious fcking green cards raping the system here - LMFAO
Yep -end times for the good ole USA.
What a fcking joke
Oh and lest we forget - China and North Korea now have the 2 biggest sub fleets on the planet Older diesel boats for sure but what the hell I mean after all - THERE IS ALWAYS SUPERIORITY IN NUMBERS - LMFAO
http://thesaker.is/why-the-us-russian-nuclear-balance-is-as-solid-as-ever/
http://thesaker.is/short-reminder-about-us-and-russian-nuclear-weapons/
Here are some educational articles at Saker that I found. And here is a reminder of what it takes to end the whole AngloMuricanoJewish Empire: it doesn't take thousands or even hundreds of nuclear warheads, but 10 or so.
"The best option for a guaranteed initiation of catastrophic geophysical processes would be a hit on the Yellowstone supervolcano. Even a single surface explosion of a 5-7-ton ammunition would initiate a powerful eruption. As a result, the US will cease to exist, although the consequences would be catastrophic for the rest of the world as well. Russia would suffer the least – because of the distance from the site of the explosion, the size of the territory and its location. Also, the damage to the countries located on the opposite to the US sides of the earth would also be limited. Nevertheless, let us stress that the explosion would be a disaster for the entire civilization. But that is the reason for the existence of such a weapon. The very possibility of its use should put an end to any thought of aggression against Russia.
An alternative version of a megahit would be to initiate gigantic tsunamis. The idea belongs to Andrei Sakharov. Its essence is to detonate several bombs at defined points along the Atlantic and Pacific transform faults (approximately 3-4 for each) at the depth of 1.5-2 kilometers. This will, according to the calculations of Sakharov and other scientists, produce a waive that will reach 400-500 or more meters near the US shores. Crushing on the shores, the waive would wash away everything at the distance of more than 500 kilometers. If the explosions are made deeper closer to the bottom of the ocean where the earth crust near the plate joints is the thinnest, the crust could be destroyed, and the magma coming in contact with the ocean water would amplify manifold the intensity of the explosion. In such case, the height of the tsunami would exceed 1.5 kilometers, and the destruction zone would extend more than 1500 kilometers from the shore. This would be a very “clean” weapon – the nuclear winter would not come, since gigantic dust clouds would not form, and water vapors would pour over the land close to the point of their formation, i.e. on the US territory, as horrific radioactive rain showers. Such a hit would undoubtedly start tectonic activity in the entire region, including, very possibly, eruption of the Yellowstone supervolcano. The reverse waive would wash away Europe. In other words, the entire block NATO would be gone. The cataclysm would be horrendous."
http://thesaker.is/nuclear-special-forces-only-brics-countries-will-surv...
Oh, forgot to add: Russia is a country with the largerst number of nuclear weapons, and technology for delivering them at potential destinations is also the world's most advanced one. So, Russia really is a country with the largest and most powerful nuclear arsenal on planet. That assures no aggression will ever come from the Western Empire, you see. Like I said, the purpose of the Empire's military build up in Europa is to keep Europa occupied.
I just want to know...WHERE CAN I HIDE??
anyone...PLEASE
America wants only this : Russia & Europe destroy each other. And Americans economy & its power will boom like anything.
So Russians should rather target America at every provocation in Europe. Its the Americans who feel safe bounded by 2 oceans as invincibles. They are in their comfort zone while the rest of the world is facing fire.
Russia should send some nuclear submarines on both sides of America and let them openly cruise on the surface, let American & Europeans see them clearly.