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Russian Pivot: Greek PM Schedules Putin Meeting Ahead Of "Lehman Weekend"
Earlier this month, we reported that Greece is prepared to sign an MOU of political support for Gazprom’s Turkish Stream Pipeline, when Alexis Tsipras visits St. Petersburg for the International Economic Forum this week.
The deal is a blow to Washington, which attempted to persuade Athens to support an alternative pipeline. In April, US State Department envoy Amos Hochstein met with Greek foreign minister Nikos Kotzia to pitch The Southern Gas Corridor, a project which, when complete, will allow the EU to tap into Caspian gas via a series of connecting pipelines running from Azerbaijan to Italy. The corridor is aimed at breaking Gazprom’s stranglehold in Europe.
(Turkish Stream)
(Southern Gas Corridor)
Greece, defiant in the face of US pressure and no doubt intent on preserving the last bit of leverage it has in negotiations with European creditors, contended that it did not view the two pipelines as competitors and would pursue participation in both projects. Greece will not, Greek Energy Minister Panagiotis Lafazanis said, be swayed by pressure from The White House:
“We do not considered them to be rivals. On the contrary, we think they both contribute to energy supply of European countries.That’s why it is odd that the Russian project is raising concern and doubts in the US and the European Union. We will not submit to the interests and wishes of any third country. Greece is nobody’s property. We move based on the interests of our people and our national interests. The country must become a development hub for Europe’s energy supply."
Since then, the situation between Greece and its creditors has deteriorated meaningfully. Athens is now reportedly set to delay a June 30 IMF payment for six months and faces the imposition of capital controls over what could end up being a “Lehman Weekend.” With his back against the wall, and with Syriza party hardliners apparently no closer to backing concessions, Tsipras looks set to once again play the ‘Russian pivot” card because as Kathimerini reports, a “working meeting” between the Greek PM and Russian President Vladimir Putin is now scheduled for Friday in St. Petersburg:
Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras is due to travel to Saint Petersburg on Friday to meet with Russian President Vladimir Putin, the state-run Athens-Macedonian News Agency (AMNA) quoted Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov as saying on Tuesday.
"A working meeting has been scheduled with Alexis Tsipras on Friday, July 19, on the sidelines of the World Economic Forum," Peskov was quoted as saying.
The Kremlin spokesman did not reveal what the two men would be talking about.
If we had to venture a guess, the two leaders will be talking about options for Russian aid in the event the relationship between Athens and Brussels continues to deteriorate in the coming weeks.
There are a number of possibilities, including a multibillion euro advance on Greece’s Turkish Stream revenue and the arrangement of a loan from the BRICS bank. Note that this is a perfect time for Greece to explore the BRICS option. As we've noted on serveral occasions, Russia has invited Greece to join and reports indicate Athens could be eligible for a loan immediately and would be allowed to tender its paid in capital in installments to ease the financial burden of joining. Further, Russia will host this year's BRICS summit in Ulfa on July 8-9 where the $100 billion bank will officially be launched along with a $100 billion currency reserve, meaning Greece could serve as a kind of pilot project for the new fund.
All of the above serve to underscore Angela Merkel's insistence on going to extra mile to keep Greece in the euro even in the face of staunch opposition both from lawmakers and from the German finance ministry. In short, the Chancellor fears the geopolitical ramifications of a Grexit could, in the long run, prove more detrimental than the economic consequences, especially considering the situation in Ukraine.
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I seriously doubt Putin is stupid enough to start pouring good money into a hopeless cause like Greece. I don't like you, Vladimir, but I do respect your intelligence.
He will let them burn to the ground in the Euro first. When the Greeks finally and quite violently decide enough is enough with the EU paper game, he will show up and buy them out on the cheap.
If the Chinese don't bid.
Russia, Turkey and the New Greek Sirtaki
Um. Quite right! Then, could China attempt to just "buy in" with their famous "aid". Hard to see clearly.
Does this man Putin ever sleep?
He's beating the stuffing out of all the big boys even though he's starting with fewer chess pieces on the board and from an inferior position.
This meeting's a solid kick right to the EU's sack. You KNOW that's gotta hurt.
Russia's position, backstopped by China and other BRICS, is solid. Despite the USSA's best shots, Russia has resisted sanctions, currency attacks, color revolutions and the crash in oil prices, all in the space of less than 2 years. The USSA has done everything it can so far to destroy Russia, and has failed. In fact, while hurt in the short term, Russia's economy will do much better in the future with the ejection of the fifth column liberals from the political process, and much needed economic reforms, such as reviving the agricultural sector.
Moreover, with the re integration of Crimea into Russia, her military position is much stronger in the Black Sea.
Plus, the constant MSM propaganda attacks upon Putin only maintain and/or increase his popularity.
We see this the same.
A couple of old cliches come to mind.
First for the U.S. - Never start a fight you can't win.
Second, for Russia - That which does not kill me make me stronger.
It is almost like our strategic planners don't have world maps and never studied world history.
Neocon's love their Chaos, so from that perspective, the USSA state department hit a grandslam.
Victoria "fuck the EU" Nudelman gambled that overthrowing the Ukie government would deliver the entire country into the USSA's pocket without a fight. Clearly events have proved her wrong, and as her reward for failure, she will likely become Hitlery's secretary of state.
Like We Said Months Ago, Russia "Back-Dooring" Into EU Via Greece...
Any danger of bombs, errant runway snowblowers, buk missiles, mystery pursuit planes or UFO abduction en route to St. Petersburg?
Addendum: Interesting that this post gets downvoted, in light of recent events!
The MIC's dictum:
Order$ Out of Chao$
The EU hasn't got a sac. It was born a Eunuch.
Not a man... Putin Administration is complete team
The Western Globalists and Banksters have screwed over the PIGS enough, that they've the EU's soft underbelly.
With the Blueline going through Turkey and Greece, it can go from there to (a) Macedonia, Serbia, Hungary, Austria, and/or (b) to Italy. This would also allow for a short (low-cost) branch-off to Bulgaria.
Soros and fellow oligarchs must be shitting his pants. Of course, there are other ones, who could not be happier if things played out this way. Ah, the soap-opera battles of the idle mega-rich.
if I were Putin...my message would be. Hey Greece...if you default on 100% of your Euro Debt I will cover your public pension shortfalls for the next 10 years.
Yes, it will cost Russia....and it will destroy the EU and the European Banking System.
Putin is offering an even better deal, but none of this matters because the Germans will not allow Greece to leave the Euro. The politicians are just play games that anyone can see right through.
German politicians are just trying to not get kicked out of office. The Greek politicans are just making a show as well, as if they would ever allow Russia to have a spy in Nato and Veto vote in Brussiels.
In order for the Germans to "not allow Greece to leave the Euro", they'll have to accept a default on Greek debt wich will very much cost their beloved banks (Douche Bank, anybody ?) and ECB big money. That's the reality, no matter how they'll try to spin it...
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As long as the pipeline is built they will get their money and then some, plus a huge power and control move. The real problem will be building it in time, as the us will try anything including a coup and murders to stop it being completed. NATO fears this pipeline, thus would claim in its media that Russia is silly for working with greece and vice versa
Pipelines and the Silk Road make the US Navy obsolete. The USA is Trayvoneville and Kaitlan Jennerville. Dumb whites cheering Trayvons with thug ball and NCAA like fools. I know some military and they follow college thug ball like dumb sheep.
TV and Hollywood is for idiot serfs.
Problem for the EU, TungstenBars, is that they need Russian Gas, unless they are willing to pay 3X for USSA LNG. NATO, which is just another USSA tool, is the means to enslave the europeans to support the USSA MIC.
the decision to go to russia was made a long time ago. the greeks have just been buying time, playing with troika. and they didn't mind participating in this charade either: it gave them more time too. more time to back up the derivative exposure of an inevitable grexit. that would explain the douche bank resignations. someone had to fall on their sword over this debacle.
Humm, intersting but all this sounds llike pure conjecture?
it is, stewie, it is. they don't let me in on all their little secrets, but sometimes a blind horse can smell a carrot.
I guess you have failed to realise that Greece will be paid transit fees from letting the pipeline travel through its country. Those fees will be used to pay off the advance.
Pennies
probably not.
Greece will get upfront pipeline deal money plus transit fees when the product starts flowing through.
GR will keep all of those funds sovereign, after defaulting or snubbing the EU.
Good, go with Russia I don't give a crap....in fact I think it would be hilarious!!
So what's so funny about that? They should have done so a long long time ago
The Russians and Greeks are Orthodox Christians. They know the people ensalving Greece and who are trying to destroy Russia and Putin are NOT Christians.
I see Russian warships docking in Greek ports in your future.
Just what the Greeks need. first the docking warships, then the "annexation."
Two communist screwups getting together to discuss how they can convince the population that being ruled by fools is a "good thing."
Your analysis is stuck somewhere between 1980's Cold War and 21st century wishful thinking, mostly inspired by "hope" and "change" to see things not as they are, but how TPTB (and their minions) wish them to be, and wish we would see them. If you think Putin is a fool, I'd hate to see what you think of spineless puppets like Poroshenko and that German twat, and the feckless French fag, the closet fudgepacker Obama, the paper tough guy Abbot, or pie-faced Cameron.
Yats needs to put on his kneepads and start sucking, his country is toilet-bound.
This IS just what the Greeks need as the alternative means perpetual debt slavery for ALL Greeks.
Going quickly from austerity and perpetual debt slavery to being an Energy powerhouse won't take any selling,
I agree..Putin is not going to throw money at Greece....just play with them to piss off the West..
'Money' is meaningles....think 'ports'.
Yes Ports are Profit Centers.
China & Russia might be thinking more like Capitalists than the west these days.
I love it. The Greek Admin is playing the game the right way. It is a game of Power in the End.
Pipelines, Terminals, Ports, Cargo handling Capacity, Ship handling Capacity, Liquid Transport Capacity, Rail Capacity... Then maybe there is a percentage for other countries for overland passage.
Greece already has ports. They are the most inefficient in europe. Limited rail access, and determined to stay that way.
Ruskies don't know crap about port operations.
This is just two broke bastards having a discussion about how to float their bad checks.
You need to take that BS elsewhere. Greece may be broke and Russia may be struggling, but the U.S. and the rest of the G-7 are living on nothing but credit. Russia is rich in resources and strategically placed to capitalize on them going forward. Plus, their "friends" are ascending, as ours crumble and we piss away the tresure we have left while our domestic vultures pick our carcass.
Here is what one of their "friends", and our biggest creditor, thinks:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-15/china-mocks-g7-gathering-debtor...
Ignorance blisters.
Ran out of potatoes again ?
Ports, pipelines, a NATO member in his back pocket (veto power), and more. It is a very big deal, and the Eurocrats seem to have let ego & arrogance cloud their thinking.
Aha! Now you're cooking with water.
Ports are a win-win-win scenario for Greece (with all its ships and shipping billionaries), for Russia (naval port), and for China (commercial port).
Would look good on that Consensus1-at-all-Cost ("blöde Kuh") Merkel.
1 Sometimes Consensus isn't consensus at all, but a pure capitulation to the Alpha Dog. "Spiel Hündchen", Merkel.
Greece is just a cheap pawn in a geo-political chess match. I agree that Putin is there to piss off the West. But the long game has always been to sell more NatGas to Europe, giving Russia the ability to control the light switches. I'm sure some "strategist" at the Pentagon is scratching his head as Putin works to prop up Damascus against $1 billion in CIA funds backing "moderate rebels" in Syria, blocking the last hop in the creation of a Qatari NatGas pipeline. All the while Putin distracts and divides with the Ukraine and the former Soviet bloc states where the US is placing a handful of Abrams, which were just trumped by Putin with 40 new ICBMs this year alone. Brinksmanship at its finest.
Did it ever occur to you that it's not about pissing off the west or flipping light switches but it's rather about a real and mutually beneficial cooperation? Is is so hard to wrap your mind around that idea? Is that so wrong for both Russia and Greece to get their piece of a pie?
LOL, that would be the first time. Ever negotiate with the Russians?
i did as a matter of fact, and what about you? Care to share your experience with me?
Some..My experience is Ag
My Lady is Volga regions arbitration Lawyer
ever know what you talk about?
Putin goes to countries and asks them if we can do business and help each other.
The Ztate Department, Zio-See-Eye Aye, ZSA, ZATO, Obola and Soros lackeys in Z-CON-Gress start color revolutions, hire proxy murdering armies, use drones, go to the UN with phony evidence (the worst was Syria using chmical weapons on it's people), uses the Dept of in-Justice, uses currency trading and rating agencies to attack countries and uses false falgs to deal with other countries and it's own serfs.
I'm simply looking at the pieces on the chess board, not saying it is wrong for Russia or Greece to "get their share of the pie". I'd love it if we didn't have this fucked up a world, and we are free to trade with all. But play the game from both sides. If I'm Putin, and energy is my primary export that drives my economy, when I see a weak fucking President in the WH, I'm going to use it to advance my countries interests. If you are not in the good ol' boys club of Western bankers, then you have to play the game knowing they are going to try to fuck you. Hell, they would try to fuck you if you were in the club. So you position yourselves to be in the most advantages point possible. Is that so hard to wrap your mind around?
If you only use the advantages you have just to "show who's boss" and your prime goal is to fuck everybody to get ahead, then you shouldn't get offended when people stop giving a shit about you and your shitty club and start to cooperate like grown ups do, without the need to play your stupid games
I'm sure Putin's personal billions are only from mutual cooperation and that Greece is of interest to him in the spirit of humanity. Can't you see there are two aggressors here? Both the US and Russia? Positioning for expanding spheres of influence? You don't always have to have a good guy and a bad guy. Sometimes you have two bad guys and someone in the middle ready to be exploited. A druggie will sell you a Rolex they stole for $20 bucks if it gets them high. And Greece will keep playing the game to insure they are high on socialism. They have defaulted continuously on debt. If the West won't buy it anymore, which it seems like they aren't, then they are going to go panhandle with Putin, knowing he has a strategic interest they can sell. And you think Putin will bargain from a position of weakness? He'll bargain the same way he did to amass his personal fortune.
VV Putin was never about money
It wasn't lotto tickets or accidents that just happened to make him rich as fuck. I think we should step back away from the superhero idealization of Putin as much as anybody.
I am grateful for what I think is his essential part to play in righting this fucked up unipolar nightmare, but a post-USSA hedgemonic distopia will remain a profoundly neo-liberal world order.
It's naive to imagine that Putin wouldn't love to rule, imo.
Not that it matters a whole hell of a lot.
Greece isn't the target of any money "thrown"... what is the added cost to promote US policy (and savings to Russia) if the EU sanctions cannot be renewed, and if the US cannot achieve the required unanimity in NATO to commit to a course of action and cost sharing.
This is getting interesting... no really.
Not really. Kabuki theater.
Russia is Greeces only rational option, EU and USA have always being foes of Greece.
This can turn out to be extremely good for Greece, freed from the EU/USA bankster mafia the country can start growing fast .
Russia can break EU sanctions with help from Greece, replace USA bses in the med right across from Egypt/Israel , pump gas to feed the hooked europeans through Greece and much more :)
Europe/USA are up their own ... too much, Greece is facing oblivion in EU poverty is everywhere, EU made the country third world, not much to lose really.
Plus , lets make money off the Euro volatility yeah?
If Greece (rather bizarrely) enter Brics, ... Drachma may benefit from Chinese gold backing, .. if China is also thinking about new silk gas pipes.
If you're the religious sort (I'm not), then it's noteworthy that in that sense, Greece is much more similar to (aligned with) Russia than with the West.
Think Western/Roman Empire (Roman) vs. Eastern Roman Empire (Orthodox/Byzantium). This extends to culture also, where Greeks are more Eastern Mediterranean, than West/Nordic European.
They are both Orthodox Christians. The Russians and Putin know who murdered their people in the tens of Millions from Bolsheviks from New York backed by Red Shield banksters then tens of millions more back by the same people backing Hitler. Causing mass murder of Russians, Germans and other Europeans for the bankers profit and power.
The Greeks suffered greatly under the Nazis and are suffering again by the same people and i am not pointing at the Germans. The EU Germans are puppets for their puppet masters - those same banksters.
The Russians suffered yet again under the same scum like Berozovsky, Ambrovich, Gusinsky, Soros, and the other Z-oligarch scum.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2Cl8lSv9Is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU3SkEellQE
Kasparov. His real name is Garik Weinstein.
13 year old Magnus Carlsen beating dirt bag Kasparov.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjEmquJhSas
Putin cleaned house - but he is a not done. I hope all Russians remember this history along with the Greeks.
Noodleman and her ilk plus the goy stooges like McCain are the personification of this evil.
Just saw some convincing proof of Russian soldiers in Ukraine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zssIFN2mso
Funny how they used social media. Not that this is new knowledge... but nice to see some research.
Yawn. If you actually knew anything about soviet/russian/ukrainian history, you would know that donbass families have members living all over the former soviet union territory. Besides, anything from VICE pertaining to the Ukraine is the typical western pressitude propaganda drivel regurgitated.
On an individual basis, helped by Russian NGO's , a few russians are willing to fight against Kiev, but they are doing under the Donbass banner, not Russia.
There is NO Russian Army in the Ukraine. If there were, the Ukraine would be under Russian control, and NATO would do nothing.
BTW, how do you feel about thousands of american soldiers in the Ukraine?
lol you didn't even watch it. The days people had open minds on this website are long gone.
When it's all bullshit, an open mind just lets in the stench.
Blabam, open mind to what? Endless USSA mindless propaganda?
The claim that VICE, using open source (LOL) material, can prove what the USSA, with Hundreds of Billions invested in Surveillance cannot?
I thought this meme was busted after Bellingcrap's crap was debunked. I scanned through the video and saw material taken months ago. Old news is no news.
Notice, BTW, that the view count is down drastically from the early days of coverage by VICE. The only people that now watch are the ones invested in western narratives. Simon is yesterday's news.
But he saw it on YOU TUBE. It was CONVINCING EVIDENCE!
VICE is total shit.
You're missing the point, I think. There's little doubt that individual Russians have gone to Eastern Ukraine to join the separatists - slash - defend ethnic Russians from Kiev's assaults.
This doesn't prove the Russian military is there, any more than the presence of dozens of former Israeli Defense Forces at Maidan proves Israel was involved in the coup.
Meanwhile, why the US has military "advisors" in Ukraine to help Kiev kill its own citizens is the question you should be asking. Is Ukraine on America's borders?
+1 LL
If there actually were Russian soldiers in Ukraine it would be all over the news 24/7
There is NO Russian Army in the Ukraine. If there were, the Ukraine would be under Russian control, and NATO would do nothing.
More horse shit from Latina Liver.
Sure there are Russian soldiers in Ukraine. Puutie just puts them on a temporary leave when he sends them to die in Ukraine. Even Puutie has admitted they are there and has announced restrictions on reporting on it as it is some sort of State Secret punishable by death or prison.
You Puutie nut nuzzelers back in Moscow should get your stories straight.
baby talk
I never said there aren't russian soldiers in the Ukraine, I said there is NO Russian Army in the Ukraine. A few russian volunteers, sometimes paid by NGO's , are fighting in the Donbass using 1980's soviet equipment.
Further, Putin has admitted nothing.You are just lying.
What amazes me is how utterly stupid Ukie nationalists/nazis like you can be.
Can you honestly say that the Ukraine is in better shape post the 2014 coup? By any measure, economic, political or spiritual, the Ukraine has degenerated into a hell on earth for most of its citizens. Starving babushkas, crippled ex soldiers, young girls turning tricks to eat, millions of Ukies taking refuge in Russia, how can you blame this on Putin when it was the US that overthrew your government and ushered in this chaos?
I'm a noob and all, granted - but a general rule has long been: "Trolls, feed them do not."
Augustus is clearly a troll. And perhaps a 13 year old boy with Down Syndrome and an erection that makes him angry.
I think more a senile old man with a cold war hang up.
The reason Agustus gets so many down votes here is that he seems to be a neocon shill, and most readers have had more than enough neo bullshit.
I am not in Moscow, and 100% American patriot. I have no divided loyalties and only one citizenship. We have no business in Ukraine, or anywhere else on Russia's periphery, just as they have no business in the states in our immediate sphere of influence - like Cuba.
We also have no interest in Syria, and I hate to see our borrowed money and American blood spilled in that part of the world for a bunch of fat-cats and AIPAC vultures. I am tired of endless fucking wars, being bled by bankers and multi-national corporations, having cheap political charlatans writing our laws for the benefit of others, of political parties that offer no worthy choices, and a controlled media function as little more than a propaganda arm of the status quo.
Let Europe come to terms with Moscow on their own. Let the Euro fall apart. Bring back Nationalism and de-centralize the Continent if that is what needs to happen. We need more nation states rather than fewer, as a buffer to the NWO.
America needs to get back in the business of minding our own business. We have more than enough problems right here at home that we don't seem to have answers for. Once upon a time, we were an example for other nations to admire...long ago. Now, we have become a pathetic object of ridicule.
You mean you are not a dual Shit-i-zen like half of CON-gress, much of the State Dept, USAF General Jack Weinstein, Jonathan Pollard, all of Zollywood, much of the leadership of the criminal junta in Kiev like Yatz and Porky Porshenk aka Sholomo Waltzman?
The Framers of the Constitution never wanted an empire of a Roman military. They wanted to stay out of other countries business.
Cuba?
Google Cuban missle crisis, a history lesson that will take you back all the way to the 1960's. America was none too happy when Russia built
A naval base in Cuba. It was probably the closest the world has ever come to nuclear war.
history lesson is your need
Firstly, do not conflate Soviet USSR against Russia
Soviet was never a Russian construct
From 1917 thru Stalin was never Russians in control
Kruschev, Breznev were Ukrainian nationals and ever Gorby half Ukrainian
Now Russian Leadership
Soviet is defunct Russian Federation is only past two decades
Cuban missle crisis was because Soviet answer to missles in Turkey aimed at USSR
Soviet never arrived Cuba to make coup (see Bay of Pigs)
Russia Federation did not overthrow elected Ukraine
Cuba is sovereign nation, not owned
Ukraine has never been a sovereign nation
In many points I agree but Ukraine is as much a sovreign nation as other puppet nations under the influence of bigger neigbors. It is officially recognized by all members of the UN. Now I'm not arguing about Crimea and the entire conflict, just saying Ukraine is a country. It may be sovreign but that still doesn't make it independent.
You do understand "sphere of influence", right?
Cuba is within America's sphere of influence. Ukraine is within Russia's sphere of influence.
We have no business in Ukraine; Russia has no business in Cuba. Just like I have no business playing with a hornets nest. It will bring only trouble.
Go pick up a gun dumbass or take your kid or grandkid down to the recruiting station for MIC. You can fight for the Z-oligarchs. They might fit your kid for a dress like Kaitlin in the g*y military or give him a defective M4/M-16 like McNamara passed out in Nam.
Maybe your kid can get on a US Navy ship and be incinerated like the USS Forrestal crew thanks to Johnny McCain or get murdered on the USS Liberty thanks to McCain's pappy. How many American sailors did the McCain's kill? Far more than the Russians ever did.
Good luck against those Eastern Ukrianian/Novo Russian farmers and miners. They don't give a shit. They have old technology and kick ass with it. The Western Ukrainians, to their credit, largely do not want to fight for the Z-oligarchs & Soros stooges Yats and Porky Porscheko aka Sholomo Waltzman.
How many f**king names does Porky have? He is like Obola aka Barry Soetero aka Barry Obama.
There are Israeli soldiers in Ukraine too - but I suspect you would resist claiming this proves Israel per se is involved.
There's zero evidence, not one bit, that Putin is sending Russian troops into Ukraine. If you have evidence - produce it, otherwise repeating it over and over makes you look disingenuous.
By the way, there are officially hundreds of US troops there - which means thousands.
Why are they there? To defend Kiev from the Russian mass attack that keeps being reported as imminent?
No - they are there to help Kiev's subpar military learn how to attack civilian targets and destroy infrastructure. Kiev is trying, with American help, not to sue for peace, but to ethnically cleanse Eastern Ukraine.
But in your one-note, weirdly juvenile and homophobic posts, and against all evidence, you try to maintain that the issue is Russia has invaded Ukraine to steal away the east. Clearly not true - if the Russians wanted to take the east of Ukraine they would do so in 5-7 days. There seems to be unofficial assistance and volunteers because Kiev is attacking not just civilians, but civilian infrastructure.
This is ethnic cleansing to benefit the IMF, ECB, and the US Empire. It is certainly not to help the people of Ukraine, who are slowly finding out what IMF "help" really means.
Shoulda stuck with the deal from Russia.
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you ain't doin' too well dude.
back to cleaning the grease traps at ronnie mac for you.
pimple on the ass of a gnat. lmao
Agreed re: the Murdoch-owned Vice News. It sells the administrations POV in a hip and edgy way to the alt crowd. Personally I can't believe how the USSA and her arm-twisting has carried on this long about a Russian invasion, when the old days demanded an invasion consist of...ya know, evidence of invasion? Tanks, planes, choppers, field hospitals?
Shane Smith took the money and ran. If you look at VICE stories, they went from very unique and off the beaten track to what amounts to Anglo-Zionist propaganda. The Simon Ostrovsky stuff in Ukraine was nakedly biased - I mean, transparently so.
Stories about evil white gun lovers in militias, climate change 'deniers' - its as if the heads of the major networks got together and said 'how do we indoctrinate these kids watching this VICE news?"
VICE sold out.
Convincing proof from youtube? LOL!!! Since you obviously work for the State Dept., got any pix of Vicky and Hilly going at it? Or do I have to order those from the NSA?
is it important to you?
better worry about your own country
Not bothered if there are Russian forces (Regulars from Asia or Special Ops running the show).
Pretend and Extend is what the US and NATO and their Zionist masters do all day long. Pretend and Extend is what the Fed keeps doing.
Even if true, it's a non-story to me -- given the horrific and imperialist activities that the DOD and CIA are playing globally. Context and Global Perspective does matter. Hence... Fuck the Ziocons!
Given that these Ziocons are gearing up its Western serfs to fight Russia anyway, the Ruskies would be dumb+suicidal if they didn't prep via this proxy mini-war. Again: Fuck the Ziocons! Let them send their transgender spawn to bleed and die, if they want to violate "Thou Shall Not Cover Thy Neighbor's Goods.. Wife...". Fuck 'em! And Hang 'em High! Upside-down, Mussolini style, to give them 1/2 hr to contemplate their sociopathic lives before they meet Eternal Oblivion.
p.s. Simon Ostrovky is a Russian Jew, living in NY.. He is a Tripple Citizen: Russia, Israel, USA -- 1. Native-born Russia, 2. Jewish Emigrant to Israel, and 3. Israeli emigrant to the US. But I'm sure he has no Agenda or axe to grind, other than "to get at the truth". Somebody please steer him towards ISIS, and see if he's still interested in "the truth". You can even start him off with an easy and safe exercise, by visiting some Israeli hospitals, where ISIS guys are treated.
Obama does not have another spare $5 billion to destabilize Greece and have the army take over? Nuland has considerable experience baking cookies to feed fake protesters. Would be a shame to waste her talents.
That's what I keep thinking. When do the UN landind craft reach shore to unload a bunch of "peace keepers" with blue helmets? Greece is just about asking for some western-style Kinetic Democracy to be unloaded on them.
Ummmmm............I think Victoria's "talents" could be best described by one of the recipients thereof, as in Hillary "Carpet Munch" Cliton.
Nudelman is too busy trying to destabalize Macedonia right now.
PNAC will sic her on Greece soon enough once the US funded Kosovo thugs overthrow the Macedonian government and install a proper ZioPuppet regime...
Greece is too much for Russia. It would have to be a China Russia thing if anything.
Chinese and Russia warship docked in Greece, miitary base, misiles ....lol
They did both fight Germany in WWII.
Putin is having fun with Obama now. Like a Cat with a mouse. This is fucking sensational.
Puutie is a skitzoid who just glad that anyone will consdier meeting with him.
Greece is a deadbeat that would take cash in any form.
They going to talk about it, but since Puutie has no real cash, talk is all that will be done. Plus take some pictures.
Q: How much real cash does the U.S. have?
A: Less than Russia.
I would like to see Obama give an unscripted, un-rehearsed Q&A for three and a half hours, fielding questions from all over the world, without his fucking teleprompter.
The more one listens to Putin directly and less one listens to an asshole with some kind of agenda, telling you what you should think about him the picture becomes much more clear.
nsa nitwit. lmao
Caption for the Putin picture:
"M. Tsipras... When we are done, we would like the EU's asshole to be this round."
"Greece is nobody’s property."
This is funny since there seems to be a bidding war going on for Greece.
More accurately ther is an 'Asking' war.
Greece is desperately trying to sell itself to someone.
But it has nothing of value so long as Greeks remain in control there.
Dear USA, see Greece, that where youre headed.
Poor people don't even know it, but they are beginning to feel the weather change.
This is what happens when you don't control elections properly or have enough Goldman Sachs douches in the Greek woodpile.
They thought they could control any Greek govt so didn't fret over the new govt, haha, now they are getting their arses handed to them and they hate it.
Greek defaul douche-bank dead, contagion, chaos, Spain follows the same path.....total disaster for all. And with a pivot to Russia/China...well, a total nightmare. Seems the Greek guy is an expert on game play after all. They hate this guy, how dare he call their bluff and spit in their faces, lol.
Greece doesn't have much to lose either way, but a crash and a Russia pivot, that would help thm out of the hole.
Possibiliy then of USA murdering these guys iin order to elect a govt that they want. But I can bet that would cause total rebellion in Greece.
Greece has sold everything it can and it has not been enough for the EU/IMF. Russia and the BRICS bank is their only hope. Not unless Greek Dads want to start selling their wives and daughters...oh shit, too late and the salt in the wound is it seems deflation has already shown up: http://greece.greekreporter.com/2015/05/05/prostitution-thrives-during-g...
Greece agreed to sell some state properties under last agreement.
They sold nothing but hot air, and if Puutie is buying that he will get a full delivery.
putin to greece default then i got your back. stick it to the troika
Brics summit is Ufa
not ulfa
Old Ukraine.
Meet the New Ukraine.
Pssst. Mr Putin?
Collecting zeroes adds nothing. The Greeks have nothing to trade except their ability to be a Crimea for the Med...and as their population is displaced by Russians, as the Tartars were in Crimea, they might regret this step.
AND...
Building a Russian land bridge to Greece is many times harder than building one to Crimea. Yet without one, Greece has no long term strategic value.
Nope. To all of that. RUSSIA isnt going to colonize anybody given their demos.
Look at the game tape! And the Greeks are currently being replaced by Africans under the typical scheme the Master Race has for Europe.
Deep water ports, sunny beaches, and a pipe transit route or two in a fellow Orthodox country aint nothing.
That said, you can bet the AngloZionists would be up to their usual tricks to prevent any pipeline from being started.... which is why Greece needs Russian and Chinese troops to survive its escape from Eurojail.
I think you just make shit up as you go along.
majored in geopolitics, did you?
what a buffoon you are.
Russia/Putin: "For you we have money, real money, and no "colors," as in revolution. But then if you bail on Zion and their banksters, you won't need so much money, and we also have energy to trade for your crops. Win-win, da?"
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission..
So,Germany gets screwed on Greece and gets stuck dumping billions into a new wasteland-Ukraine,on behalf of AmeriKKKa
Very good one sentence summation.
Should also note that Merkel, with USSA support, will become the Secretary General of the UN as payment for destroying Greece and ruining Germany
A greek digital currency backed by gold from Russia and China might get them out of the loop and no doubt that would suit proponents of the digital currency systems. Being backed by gold might imrove the odds of it being good for the world. Bitgold might get involved.
Putin's porcupine.
More Tanks...!!!
"A gathering of Debtors..."
I wonder when the psychopaths in Washington will begin to recognize that people around the world hate their guts.
As I understand psychopaths, they never recognize such a thing. Ever.
the only cure for psychopaths is termination
<--Tsipras mtng with Putin is to raise pressure.
<--Tsipras won't budge. Default, bye-bye Euro, Hello Vlad.
The Greek people - do they really want to stay in this EU/IMF technocratic dystopia, or do they prefer to get closer to the BRICS and non-aligned?
Is there any chance, at all, that if Greece tried to leave the EU, NATO wouldn't have to start bombing "ISIS" or there wouldn't be street protests of about 3000 people for the cameras and a coup?
There seems to have been some effort lately to stir up trouble in Macedonia - probably because part of a contemplated Ukraine-avoiding Russian pipeline would run there.
But what do the Greeks themselves want at this point?
In 5 years or less Russia will have a naval base in the Aegean.
I can't wait to see what happens the first time a Greek tries to stiff a Russian debt collector.
Why would Putin loan Tsipras money to pay back the Troika?