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George Soros Warns Washington To "Mend Relations With China" Or Face World War 3
Having already warned the world once of the consequences of tensions between China and US, George Soros (recently exposed as the puppetmaster behind Ukraine's ongoing fiasco) has stepped up the rhetoric in a biting Op-Ed. "Both the US and China have a vital interest in reaching an understanding because the alternative is so unpalatable," Soros wrote in an article for the New York Review of Books, with the danger imminent if Chinese economic reforms fail forcing President Xi Jinping to "foster some external conflicts to keep the country united and maintain himself in power." These "conflicts" would present themselves in the form of a Sino-Russo alliance which could draw the entire world into war. As Sputnik reports, Soros goes on to point out the key differences between Washington, Beijing, and Moscow, suggesting that China and Russia both consider themselves victims of "America’s aspirations to world domination."
A Partnership with China to Avoid World War (via The New York Review of Books)
International cooperation is in decline both in the political and financial spheres. The UN has failed to address any of the major conflicts since the end of the cold war; the 2009 Copenhagen Climate Change Conference left a sour aftertaste; the World Trade Organization hasn’t concluded a major trade round since 1994. The International Monetary Fund’s legitimacy is increasingly questioned because of its outdated governance, and the G20, which emerged during the financial crisis of 2008 as a potentially powerful instrument of international cooperation, seems to have lost its way. In all areas, national, sectarian, business, and other special interests take precedence over the common interest. This trend has now reached a point where instead of a global order we have to speak of global disorder.
In the political sphere local conflicts fester and multiply. Taken individually these conflicts could possibly be solved but they tend to be interconnected and the losers in one conflict tend to become the spoilers in others. For instance, the Syrian crisis deteriorated when Putin’s Russia and the Iranian government came to Bashar al-Assad’s rescue, each for its own reasons. Saudi Arabia provided the seed money for ISIS and Iran instigated the Houthi rebellion in Yemen to retaliate against Saudi Arabia. Bibi Netanyahu tried to turn the US Congress against the nuclear treaty the US was negotiating with Iran. There are just too many conflicts for international public opinion to exert a positive influence.
In the financial sphere the Bretton Woods institutions—the IMF and the World Bank—have lost their monopoly position. Under Chinese leadership, a parallel set of institutions is emerging. Will they be in conflict or will they find a way to cooperate? Since the financial and the political spheres are also interconnected, the future course of history will greatly depend on how China tackles its economic transition from investment and export-led growth to greater dependence on domestic demand, and how the US reacts to it. A strategic partnership between the US and China could prevent the evolution of two power blocks that may be drawn into military conflict.
How did we reach this point of global disorder? During the cold war the world was dominated by two superpowers. Each maintained some degree of control over its allies and satellites, and avoided direct military confrontation with the other because of the danger of Mutually Assured Destruction. It was a MAD system but it worked: it produced a number of local military conflicts but it avoided a world war.
When the Soviet empire fell apart the United States had an opportunity to become the sole superpower and the guarantor of peace in the world, but it did not rise to the occasion. The US was founded on the principle of individual freedom and it was not predisposed to become the policeman of the world. Indeed, it did not have a coherent view of the meaning of leadership in international affairs. During the cold war it had a bipartisan foreign policy, on which Democrats and Republicans largely agreed; but after the cold war ended the partnership broke up. Both parties continued to emphasize American sovereignty but they rarely agreed on subordinating it to international obligations.
Then in 1997, a group of neoconservatives argued that the US should use its military supremacy to impose its national interests, and established a think tank called the Project for the New American Century, “to promote American global leadership.” But that was a false approach: military force cannot be used to rule the world. After the terrorist attack of September 11, the neocons persuaded President George W. Bush to attack Iraq on dubious grounds that turned out to be false, and the US lost its supremacy. The Project for the New American Century had approximately the same lifespan as Hitler’s Thousand-Year Reich: around ten years.
On the financial side, by contrast, there was a clear consensus—the so-called Washington Consensus—on America’s role in the world. It became dominant in the 1980s under the leadership of Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher. It had strong ideological support from market fundamentalists; it had a supposedly scientific foundation in the Efficient Market Hypothesis and Rational Choice Theory; and it was efficiently administered by the International Monetary Fund (IMF). The consensus was a much more subtle compromise between international governance and national self-interest than the neocons’ view that military power is supreme.
Indeed, the Washington Consensus had its roots in the original compromise on which the Bretton Woods institutions were founded. John Maynard Keynes proposed a truly international currency, the bancor, but the US insisted on the dollar as the world’s reserve currency and it prevailed. In the memorable words of George Orwell’s Animal Farm, “all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.” The Washington Consensus promoted free trade and the globalization of financial markets. In the late 1990s, market fundamentalists even tried to modify the articles of agreement of the IMF so as to impose capital account convertibility, the free exchange of currencies. That attempt failed, but by allowing financial capital to move around freely the Washington Consensus also allowed capital to escape taxation and regulation. That was a triumph for market fundamentalism.
Unfortunately, the scientific foundations of this approach proved to be ill conceived. Unregulated financial markets are inherently unstable: instead of a general equilibrium that assures the optimum allocation of resources, they produce financial crises. This was dramatically demonstrated by the crash of 2008. By coincidence, 2008 marked both the end of America’s political supremacy and the demise of the Washington Consensus. It was also the beginning of a process of financial and political disintegration that first manifested itself in the microcosm of the European Union, but then spread to the world at large.
The crash of 2008 had a lasting negative effect on all the economies of the world, with the notable exception of China’s. The Chinese banking system was relatively isolated from the rest of the world and largely government-owned. As a consequence, the Chinese banks could, at the government’s behest, offset the collapse of external demand by flooding the economy with credit. The Chinese economy replaced the American consumer as the motor of the global economy, largely by selling to the American consumer on credit. It has been a rather weak motor, reflecting the relative size of the Chinese and American economies, so that the global economy has grown rather slowly since the emergence of China’s international economic power.
The main reason why the world avoided a global depression is that economists have learned some lessons from the experience of the 1930s. The heavy load of debt and lingering political prejudices limited the scale of fiscal stimulus globally (again with the exception of China); but the Federal Reserve under the leadership of its chairman, Ben Bernanke, embarked on unorthodox monetary policies including quantitative easing—large-scale injection of money into the economy through the purchase of bonds by the Federal Reserve. This prevented the reduction in effective demand from deteriorating into a global depression.
The crash of 2008 was also indirectly responsible for the euro crisis. The euro was an incomplete currency: it had a common central bank but it did not have a common treasury. The architects of the euro were aware of this defect but believed that when the deficiency became apparent the political will could be summoned to correct it. After all, that is how the European Union was brought into existence—taking one step at a time, knowing full well that it was insufficient but that when the need arose it would lead to further steps.
Unfortunately, political conditions changed between 1999, when the euro was adopted, and 2008, when the need arose. Germany under the leadership of Helmut Kohl led the process of European integration in order to facilitate the reunification of Germany. But reunification proved expensive and the German public became unwilling to take on any additional expenses. When, after the bankruptcy of Lehman Brothers in 2008, the European finance ministers declared that no systemically important financial institution would be allowed to fail, Chancellor Angela Merkel, as a politician in touch with the prevailing public opinion, insisted that the responsibility should fall on each country separately, not on the European Union collectively. That ruled out the possibility of a common treasury just when it was needed. That was the beginning of the euro crisis. Crises in individual countries like Greece, Italy, or Ireland are essentially variants of the euro crisis.
Subsequently, the financial crisis has morphed into a series of political crises. The differences between creditor countries and debtor countries have transformed the European Union from a voluntary association of equals into a relationship between creditors, such as Germany, and debtors, such as Greece, that is neither voluntary nor equal and arouses increasing political tensions.
The European Union started out as a valiant attempt at international governance on a regional scale. In the aftermath of 2008, the EU became preoccupied with its internal problems and failed to pull its weight in the international economy. The United States also became inward-looking but by a somewhat different route. The inward turn of the EU and US led to a decline in international cooperation on a global scale.
Since the Western powers are the mainstay of the prevailing world order, their declining influence has created a power vacuum in international governance. Aspiring regional powers and nonstate actors, which are willing to use military force, have rushed to fill the vacuum. Armed conflicts have proliferated and spread from the Middle East to other parts of Asia, Africa, and even Europe.
By annexing Crimea and establishing separatist enclaves in Ukraine, Putin’s Russia has challenged both the prevailing world order, which depends on the Western powers for support, and the values and principles on which the EU was founded. Neither the European nor the American public is fully aware of the severity of the challenge. President Vladimir Putin wants to destabilize all of Ukraine by precipitating a financial and political collapse for which he can disclaim responsibility, while avoiding occupation of a part of eastern Ukraine, which would then depend on Russia for economic support. He has demonstrated his preference by twice converting an assured military victory into a cease-fire that threatened to destabilize all of Ukraine. Unfortunately, Putin is succeeding, as can be seen by comparing the “Minsk Two” cease-fire with “Minsk One,” even if his success is purely temporary. Putin now seeks to use Ukraine to sow dissension and gain political influence within the European Union.
The severity of the Russian threat is directly correlated with the weakness of the European Union. The EU has excelled at muddling through financial and political crises but now it is confronted with not one but five crises: Russia, Ukraine, Greece, immigration, and the coming British referendum on EU membership—and that may be too much. The very survival of the EU is at risk.
International governance on a global scale is equally fragile. The world may break up into rival camps both financially and politically. China has begun to build a parallel set of financial institutions, including the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB); the Asian Bond Fund Initiative; the New Development Bank (formerly the BRICS Bank); and the Chiang Mai Initiative, which is an Asian regional multilateral arrangement to swap currencies. Whether the two camps will be able to keep their rivalry within bounds will depend on how China manages its economic transition and on how the US reacts to it.
The International Monetary Fund could play a positive part in this. It has abandoned its commitment to the Washington Consensus but the controlling shareholders of the Bretton Woods institutions—the US, the UK, France, and Germany among them—are unwilling to relinquish their voting control by increasing the representation of the developing world. This is very shortsighted on their part because it does not recognize changes in the relative weight of various economies and particularly the rise of China.
The controlling shareholders are unlikely to abandon their control, however tenuous; but the IMF has an opportunity to build a binding connection between the two camps. The opportunity arises from the fact that the composition of the IMF’s Special Drawing Rights (SDR) basket will be up for its five-yearly review at the end of 2015.
The SDR is an international reserve asset, created by the IMF in 1969 to supplement the existing official reserves of member countries. The Chinese renminbi is not fully qualified to be included in the SDR basket, but the qualifications to be included are not as rigorously defined as is generally believed. The Japanese yen was introduced when it was not yet widely traded; the franc entered the basket when the French capital account was heavily controlled; and the Saudi riyal was introduced when it was completely pegged to the US currency. The criteria for inclusion have changed over the years but now call for (1) a large exporter country and (2) a “freely usable” currency. This term is often misconstrued as imposing complete convertibility of capital accounts and flexibility of exchange rates; but that is not the case. Indeed, the basket of Special Drawing Rights formerly included currencies with no or little capital account convertibility.
The Chinese leadership has now embarked on a major effort to have the renminbi included in the SDR basket, and the IMF staff is sympathetic. For instance, it has announced that the renminbi is “no longer undervalued,” and it doesn’t seek full and precipitous capital account liberalization, but rather a cautious and gradual pace of reform in order to ensure the smooth functioning of the SDR and the preservation of financial stability in China.
Much now depends on the attitude of the US government, which holds veto rights in the IMF—even if the decision regarding the SDR basket requires only a 70 percent majority of the IMF’s board. The US would be making a major concession if it opened the door to allowing the renminbi to become a potential rival to the dollar. It could demand similar concessions from China in return, but that would be the wrong approach. The relationship between two great powers is not a zero-sum game: one party’s gain is not necessarily a loss for the other.
China is seeking SDR status for the renminbi not to please or hurt the US but for reasons of its own that are only indirectly connected with China’s ultimate ambition of replacing the US dollar as the dominant currency in the world. China seeks to use financial liberalization as an engine of growth for the Chinese economy. China wants to deepen the government bond market and open it up to international investors in order to enable the central government to clean up the bad debts of insolvent local authorities; it also wants to reduce the excessive leverage in the economy by promoting conversions of debt to equity. Inclusion of the renminbi in the IMF basket would facilitate the process, and success would automatically advance the renminbi’s weight and influence in the world.
The US government has little to gain and much to lose by treating the relationship with China as a zero-sum game. In other words it has little bargaining power. It could, of course, obstruct China’s progress, but that would be very dangerous. President Xi Jinping has taken personal responsibility for the economy and national security. If his market-oriented reforms fail, he may foster some external conflicts to keep the country united and maintain himself in power. This could lead China to align itself with Russia not only financially but also politically and militarily. In that case, should the external conflict escalate into a military confrontation with an ally of the United States such as Japan, it is not an exaggeration to say that we would be on the threshold of a third world war.
Indeed, military budgets are rapidly increasing both in Russia and in China, and they remain at a very high level in the United States. For China, rearmament would be a surefire way to boost domestic demand. China is already flexing its military muscle in the South China Sea, operating in a unilateral and often quite belligerent manner, which is causing justifiable concern in Washington. Nevertheless, it may take a decade or more until a Russian–Chinese military alliance would be ready to confront the US directly. Until then, we may expect a continuation of hybrid warfare and the proliferation of proxy wars.
Both the US and China have a vital interest in reaching an understanding because the alternative is so unpalatable. The benefits of an eventual agreement between China and the US could be equally far-reaching. Recently there has been a real breakthrough on climate policy on a bilateral basis. By taking the nonbinding representations and promises made by the two countries at face value, the agreement has made more credible some recent efforts to bring climate change under control. If this approach could be extended to other aspects of energy policy and to the financial and economic spheres, the threat of a military alignment between China and Russia would be removed and the prospect of a global conflict would be greatly diminished. That is worth trying.
On his last state visit to the US in 2013, President Xi spoke of a “new type of great power relationship.” The subject has been widely discussed in China since then. President Obama should outline his own vision by drawing a distinction between Putin’s Russia, which has replaced the rule of law with the rule of force, and today’s China, which does not always abide by the rule of law but respects its treaty obligations. Russian aggression needs to be firmly resisted; by contrast China needs to be encouraged—by offering a more constructive alternative—to avoid the route of military aggression. This kind of offer may elicit a favorable response. Rivalry between the US and China is inevitable but it needs to be kept within bounds that would preclude the use of military force.
It does not follow that a far-reaching agreement amounting to a strategic partnership between the US and China would be easy to accomplish. The two countries have fundamentally different political systems. While the US is founded on the principle of individual freedom, China has no significant tradition of such freedom. It has had a hierarchical structure since time immemorial and it has been an empire throughout most of its history. In recent years the US has led the world in the innovative development of social media, while China has led the world in finding means to control it. Since the end of the cold war, China has been much more successful than Russia in creating a successful hierarchical system.
This is best seen by looking at the way information is distributed. Since the rise of social media, information increasingly travels along horizontal lines, but China is different: information is distributed vertically. Within the party–state apparatus, the closer one is to the top, the better one is informed and the more latitude one enjoys in expressing an opinion. This means that the party–state apparatus offers not only an opportunity for personal enrichment but also a semblance of individual freedom. No wonder that the apparatus has been able to attract much of China’s best talent. The degree of latitude it allows is, however, strictly circumscribed by red lines. People have to walk within a grid; those who transgress the red lines may fall into the hands of the security apparatus and disappear without a trace.
The stranglehold of the security apparatus was gradually diminishing but recently there has been an ominous reversal: under the leadership of President Xi the informal rules defining the rights and status of NGOs, for instance, are now in the process of being significantly tightened.
Comparing President Xi’s “Chinese dream” with the American dream highlights the difference between the two political and social systems. Xi extols China’s success in “rejuvenating the nation” by harnessing the talents and energies of its people in service of the state. By contrast, the American dream extols the success of the rugged individual who achieves upward social mobility and material prosperity by overcoming obstacles posed by social conventions or prejudices or authorities abusing their power, or sheer bad luck. The US would like China to adopt its values but the Chinese leadership considers them subversive.
In this respect China has more in common with Russia than with the US. Both Russia and China consider themselves victims of America’s aspiration to world domination. From the US point of view, there is much to disapprove of in China’s behavior. There is no independent judiciary and multinational companies are often mistreated and replaced by domestic favorites. And there are conflicts with the US and other nations in the South China Sea and over cyberwarfare and human rights. These are not matters on which cooperation will be easy to achieve.
Fully recognizing these difficulties, the US government should nevertheless make a bona fide attempt at forging a strategic partnership with China. This would involve identifying areas of common interest as well as areas of rivalry. The former would invite cooperation, the latter tit-for-tat bargaining. The US needs to develop a two-pronged strategy that offers incentives for cooperation and deterrents that render tit-for-tat bargaining less attractive.
The areas for cooperation may prove to be wider than is obvious at first sight. Cooperating with China in making President Xi’s financial reforms successful is definitely in the common interest. Success would fulfill the aspirations of the ever-increasing Chinese middle class. It may also allow Xi to relax some of the restrictions he has recently introduced and that would, in turn, increase the probability that his reforms will succeed and improve global financial stability. The weak point of his current approach is that both implementing and monitoring the reform process are in the same hands. Opening up the process to criticism by the media and civil society would greatly improve the efficacy of his reforms. This is particularly true of Xi’s anticorruption campaign. And if China followed this path, it would become increasingly attractive to the US as a strategic partner.
Negotiations between the US and China could not possibly be completed by October 2015, when the board of the IMF is scheduled to consider the composition of the SDR basket. Realistically it would take until President Xi’s state visit to Washington in September to complete the preparations. But there is much to be gained by extending the SDR deadline to 2016. China will then host the meeting of the G20, and 2016 will also be the last year of the Obama administration. The prospect of a strategic partnership between the US and China would mobilize all political forces in favor of international cooperation on both sides.
If a bona fide attempt fails, the US would then be fully justified in developing a strong enough partnership with China’s neighbors that a Chinese–Russian alliance would not dare to challenge it by military force. That would be clearly inferior to a strategic partnership between the US and China. A partnership with China’s neighbors would return us to a cold war, but that would still be preferable to a third world war.
The Trans-Pacific and Trans-Atlantic Partnerships, which are currently being negotiated, could offer an excellent opportunity for a two-pronged strategy but the current approach is all wrong. At present China is excluded; indeed the partnerships are conceived as an anti-Chinese alliance under US leadership. The president has asked Congress to give him and his successor authority for up to six years to negotiate trade agreements under fast-track rules that would deprive Congress of its right to introduce amendments. The bill has passed the Senate and at this writing is before the House. If the House approves, President Xi may be presented with an apparent threat on his visit in September. This is an appropriate response to China’s aggressive behavior in the South China Sea and elsewhere, but it leaves little room for an alternative approach. It would, as a result, be difficult for President Obama to make a bona fide offer of strategic partnership.
It is to be hoped that the House will not authorize putting the bill on a fast track. Instead of railroading the bill through Congress, it ought to be taken off the fast track. In that case, Congress would have plenty of time to correct the fundamental flaws in the proposed treaties that make them unacceptable as they are currently written. And that would also allow President Obama to make President Xi a genuine offer of a strategic partnership with China when he visits Washington in September.
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i wish that maggot would stfu
in other words, Gerorgie is telling congress to pass TPP or else..
What is this MF’er doing? Kissing the ass of the PBC so he can get the inside information on the next short? Pos need to take a dirt nap.
KROFT: Went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews.
Mr. SOROS: Yes. That’s right. Yes.
KROFT: I mean, that’s–that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many years. Was it difficult?
Mr. SOROS: Not–not at all. Not at all. Maybe as a child you don’t–you don’t see the connection. But it was–it created no–no problem at all.
KROFT: No feeling of guilt?
Mr. SOROS: No.
Americans don't carea about Asian wars.
We as a society care about European wars.
War in asia gets a solid "meh" Europeans shooting at one another again would get us excited though.
OT
been awhile since ive been here. has tyler done a story on this?
http://m.eagnews.org/?url=http%3A%2F%2Feagnews.org%2Fpegs-culturally-rel...
this needs to be exposed
Mend Relations with China and Russia : Nuke Soros!
There, fixed the headline.
Pool Shark Warns George Soro To "STFU" Or DIAF
It warms my heart when billionares such as George Soros choose to dedicate themselves to charitable and philanthropic causes. It would be so easy for someone in George Soros' position to use their power and resources to further their own interests, but instead he uses his influence to steer the world towards peace and prosperity. He is also particularly active in the third world, which is very much needed, since these countries lack economic guidance and expertise. I wish congress would pay more attention to prominent philanthropists such as Soros, because we all stand to benefit from their wealth of experience and deep understanding of geopolitical and socio-economic issues.
Where you been, MDB? Glad to see you back. Your unique brand of bulleted sarcasm always hits the mark for me and makes me smile. Well done again (above). :)
This psychotic geezer wants to make up with China to isolate Russia. Attacking Russia is his demented reason to live.
+1 to MDB from me, cause of the special person you are...
I dont' think you guys understand, assets were siezed, the empire is pissed off, because well, they got jacked, and what can I say?
WHAT GOES AROUND, COMES AROUND!
I'll be watching Venezuela & Egypt more closely than Russia & China...
(Remember Bullies like to pick on the lil guys...)
Soreass wants war with Russia, but not with China. Russia and China know the Anglo-Zionist game of divide and conquer so it's war with both or peace with both. Either way Soreass is fucked. I am so sad about that.
Dear George,
Eat a bag of uncut dicks and die in a fire!
-Everyone on the planet
Soros on preventing WWIII: "Please, don't throw me into the brier patch!"
+1 Stannick
It works well for two options #1 to isolate Russia #2 The US and Russia destroy eachother leaving second potential zionist empire if the US doesn't pan out.
If I was Putin I would be paying real close attention to US and Chinese ties, especially ties with this group.
oops
Madman...(or you could sell a ketchup Popsicle to a woman in white gloves!)
Which is about the highest compliment you'll get out of me today...
That old motherfucker should up and die already! Save the world some grief you old fart.
"George Soros Warns Washington To "Mend Relations With China" Or Face World War 3"
How about...
"Humanity Warns George Soros to Join Its Species Or Face Hanging"
There.
Why can't some random gunman visit George.... *wistful sigh*
China Warns Of World War 3 Unless The US Backs Down On South China Sea
It is important at this juncture to remember that this is from the man who is up to his eyeballs in the mess in the Ukraine. Talk about a guy who knows how to fuel a war...
Yes. Soros loves money and hates Russia. God forbid the Chinese should align with Russia, and the the US. Soros must be heavily invested in China and TPP companies.
Tom Servo Listen real carefully... >>> https://youtu.be/nuHfVn_cfHU
One might suspect because they are busy planning the demise of Bernie Sanders.
I can't fathom how they will ever allow him close to the presidency, just as a sane individual I cannot fathom how any non-psychos would support the Trans-Pacific Partnership, the endgame of the money masters.
http://www.vox.com/2015/5/27/8666215/bernie-sanders-ideas
You really have to read between the lines to calculate what Soros wants. He wants China in the arms of the IMF, the western banking structure, not forging a separate, competing structure with Russia (and not stated, Iran). Soros want to hold his power, and sees Russia as a threat, and China as the critical ally moving forward. He sure does feel free to lie, after opening with some reasonable stuff to get the reader engaged and unguarded.
Soros is mostly concerned about a disruption to his supply chain of Chinese toddlers.
Moved on from fetal embryos has he?
Huh.
Soros sanctions sales of stem cell salve specifically suited for soothing Satanist psyche.
I still believe he's interested in the forced organ harvesting market which is thriving there as he's worried about his future.
It is hard to separate the message for the messenger. We all would want a peaceful world but not one controlled by the Soros oligarchy. It is likely, and unfortunate, that any peaceful world would have such control. Seems the choice is conflict or control. Maybe that's as good as it gets? Or?
Exactly. He wants Russia's resources for his scavengers but knows the only way to do that is to make friends with China to keep Xi and Putin apart.
He is scum of the highest order. His concerns for world peace is just more propaganda for deception.
Bingo! Divide and conquer.
Soros - the leperous mouthpiece for the great gnostic cult that is global finance.
Soros is one of the evil fux behind the looting and the genocide in the Ukraine. McCain, the NeoCons and NeoLibs puppetmaster.
In a puppet show you never see the puppeteer.
Soros is a front. He'll be the sacrifical "mastermind" the puppet masters let get his head cut off. But he's not anyone important.
Quite a few people are unaware of this, and I'm not being facetious here, that Soros and Madeleine Albright are counsins.
i thought this was contradictory... i.e. to avoid irking Chinese TPP should not pass ...
Real Americans to Soros:
SHUT THE F**K UP, BITCH!
The slimebucket will probably end up living forever, just like David Rockefeller!
Probably attend the same Josef Mengele Clinic down there in Chile. (Where they perform that live forced organ harvesting.)
The money masters have offshored all the jobs, all the technology and all the investment to China, invaded Iraq so that oil flows freely to their production facilities there from Iraqi oil wells, and if there's a war it will be because they have so deemed it.
Soros, a pathetic jackhole.
Die beneath burning plastic you old cretin POS.
hey thats pretty creative!
perhaps a pile of burning citi-bank visa cards?
i like your out-of-the-box thinking.
Were making magic here today!
hey thats pretty creative!
We kill bankers with nailguns.....that's pretty creative.
Sure, we could use a silenced .22....but where's the art in that?
Nailgun old credit cards to banksters and watch them burn?
Guilotines are needed for his spawn of Satan offspring as well.
Go Fuck yourself Soros. Yeah, the US should do a lot of things differently, but not just because it benefits you.
His efforts in getting a war started in the Ukraine must not be going well.
One war at a time, need to keep China off to the side while Russia is plundered.
I thought thats what you wanted Sorass - what you've been funding, Sorass.
Hissssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss............
lol
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hWk6JcheLMU
Hah...
Perhaps even more apropos....
The Harmless snake that hisseth very loudly...
Also, there is a pattern here really worth observing....go at least a minute into the film...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jT6qZpdGeIw
lol trippy
Bill and Hillary's first date.
Who are the goddamn Sinos?!? Should we drone them?
Washington is starting more fires than its putting out. Bound to get burnt. You reap what you sow, asshole.
I hope Soros suffers thru years of slowly progressing anal cancer.
i believe George Soros IS anal cancer. He meets all of the criteria
soros just figured out all his wealth will not protect him from the chinese when they dismantle the western system and lock the likes of him and his tribe up on a reservation.
we are going to war.
This poor old fuck is scared he's losing any relevence.
Spoiler alert, it's already lost. Go fuck yourself Soros.
Soros is an evil motherfucker and he loves every minute of it.
Go into the light asshole....soon!
Soros always talk his book. How much of his ill-gotten wealth is invested in China?
Meanwhile he has assured Poroshenko that the US will be supplying its most lethal arms to fight Putin.
Commodities always do well in National emergencies at Usury prices.
Cover fiat exchange rates.
It's what billionares do.
what a criminal (ukraine) bullshitter, china is not the usa to provoke wars in order to distract from its own malaise.
I propose 'literally' that Barry Obama immediately arrange marriage of no 1 and 2 daughter to vlads and slantee eye wos is name ofspring. irrespective of age, gender etc.
That's how they do it in sociopath blue blood dynasties
wait a second..isn't this the same george soros sticking his billionaire thumb on the Ukraine scales of justice? didn't he crash the pound? isn't he the nazi collaborator? we i think he must know what he's talking about.
Hey George Soros, you personally have caused a lot of the chaos, from funding the uprising in the Ukraine to funding the race baiters in the US.
Die already you Nazi collaborator.
We look forward to tearing his soul apart.
Sincerely
The Devil.
Hey George, take your demands and get stuffed! Oh and take you and your open society and go move to The Islamic Republic of Iran and be open-minded there. Everyone has had enough of your crap!
Shut
Orifice
Rapist
Oligargh
Shithead
Thanks George.
We'll get right on it.
Horseface is back in Europe at the moment.
First chance we get, we'll send him off to Taiwan.
This MF'er makes me hope that hell and Dante's Inferno is real and that he and his whole family have a one way ticket there along with his Neocon and Neo Lib stooges like McCain and Schumer.
Soros worried about China outright backing Russia to save the lives of Russian speaking people in Ukraine from extermination by Soros and his buddies at the FED.
As he slithers off into his mega-bunker he screams, 'war'.
There would be no war anywhere if people have enough to eat, water to drink, shelter and can live in dignity as free people.
Unfortunately the corporations(banks), military complex and governments do not see it that way and guys like Soros makes money through this.
I read a post today the City of Los Angeles is writing or passing a law to confiscate possessions of homeless as they 'clutter' the fucking landscape.
It is bad enough being poor, but to be a victim of those who are supposed to 'Serve and Protect' everyone will realize they are no longer human nor equal in the eyes of the middle and upper class.
If there is a war Soros, you and your ilk will be to blame. And the war may not be what you think. It may come from within the powers, not the powers against each other.
Please God, slow burning Cancer, a Stroke, slow painful Heart attack a slow Coma causing Aneurysm......anything or everything in that order will do.
Well the Italian Mafia, for all it's faults, left out wives and children. The evil Z-Shield or someone else may have gone after the other devil David Rockefeller. He is 92 or 94 or something. You kill him - it does not hurt.
ZH had the story 6+ months ago where his son flew down in his turbo prop from Maine to have dinner with him in NY. At the family compound outside of NYC. The son was a medical doctor and probably the only one who would actually spend time with his satanic father. His plane crashed on take off. Somebody really wanted Rockefeller to suffer.
narry enuf.
China, like Russia knows all too well that the Anglozionazi Empire of Chao$ of the Third World Fourth Reich in Washing town is living off the last of the morons that still "believe" in the blood-spattered Saudi Mercan IOU fiat food stamp petroscrip toilet paper dollah; everyone else knows that the Ponzi crapper of the Wall St shaman banksters is imploding all around us and the Potemkin Village of rigged market Mercan Pentacon Kill Industries style "capitalism" is nothing more than the Cosa Nostra on steroids.
The tsunami of toxic derivative filth spewed out by entitled Mercans and their "culture" of sloth and global anarchy is mounting and will wash all over US in the greatest collapse the planet has ever seen. Now why on earth would the Chinese and their Russian partners not do everything in their power to bring down the necrophiles and our troopian living dead in this the greatest opportunity to rid mankind of free loader exceptional a$$hole$?
The Chinese appear to understand history at least to some extent.
Soros and his ilk of Zios and Yalie WASPs were the people who flooded China with Opium to make the people slaves.
"The tsunami of toxic derivative filth spewed out by entitled Mercans and their "culture" of sloth and global anarchy is mounting and will wash all over US in the greatest collapse the planet has ever seen."
+1 for the imagery.
I would note, however, that although the US is still (for a short remaining time) the most powerful of the evil forces in the geopolitical economic world, China and Russia are also run by systems that are far from benign. Humanity is working hard to wipe ourselves out, with different flavorings among the different elites. And we the non-connected are allowing it to happen. Our species is not remotely as intelligent as we believe ourselves to be.
TPP...two words: Penny Pritzker
Need i say more?
How about Penny Pritzker, Bob Reuben and Larry Summers...
Be afraid...very afraid.
/s
Dear George,
Drinking baby blood isn't going to save you from your ultimate fate.
You've be had, your emails have been hacked, your Ukraine and Ferguson agitation exposed for all to see,
Your old lady really thinks you are a smelly flaccid retarded old man and hates your guts..but likes the filthy lucre.
The best thing to do at this point is to tell your boss to fuck off and find a hiding place asap.
Regards,
The Goyim
the world would be better off without his ilk that's for sure
China has like 20 nukes. We win.
We "win".
There, fixed that for ya.
But her ally Russia has more nukes than the US!
nukes are so 60's
Too late George, the USSA should have thought about this much earlier... USSA has done a GREAT job pushing Russia and China closer... multipolar world is already becoming a reality so the sooner USSA forgets about the "full spectrum dominance" and the stupid PNAC ideas the better for everyone in the world...
Every time I see a picture of this guy I think of Ernst Stavro Blofeld.
What he really says is .....
"America, make China my bitchez or I will do it the hard way (i.e. start the WW3)"
I have a dream - that we round up all satanic neocons, throw them all in the big cage, naked, inside AT&T stadium - sell tickets & pack the place, put it on pay-per-view, then let a pack of starving lions loose on them all.
That's such a great point George. Those foreign leaders might create reasons for war to distract people of their thievery and corruption and failures to keep their band of crony elites in power..and enrich themselves at the same time. How corrupt and pathological they are. Thank God American politicians and their corporatist cronies (like you) are exceptional people would never do something like that.
I don't really have note this is sarcasm do I? (but of course I just did;-0
I guess this means Georgie is heavily invested in China. Fuck Georgie. And don't bother with the lube.
Too little, and mostly too late.
China’s government has passed new guidelines requiring civilian shipbuilders to ensure their vessels can be used by the military in the event of conflict, state-run media said on Thursday.
The report said that China had about 172,000 civilian ships at the end of last year, suggesting the measure could be a major boost to China’s navy.
China’s government will cover the costs of the plan, it added.
The more you sweat in peacetime, the less you bleed during war.
Chinese Proverb
With the BDI having dried up so much, there should be a steady supply of ships to confiscate.
...and then there's that Fact. too fucking funnee
Everything that snake says is deceit. He slithers on the ground to fool his prey.
double post sorry
Dear George, its very simple. The moment you stop financing this conflict it will cease to exist. What? Oh, you saying you completely forgot...
1913 Germany and England had that trade thing going...
2015 China has good trade into the USA.
China will keep expanding its raw material trade links into Africa based on its deep development work going back to the 1960's
Trade and development offers to open new markets globally.
Keep producing what the world needs and offer nations with raw materials: products, roads, rail and services they really need and want.
China builds a road, rail, ports, expands mines. Thats local jobs and exports from a community.
All the US can do is rush around the world and try and offer free charity, soft political loans and generations of military products.
China seems to have understood this going back to the 1960's. Offer real local support that builds a nation up.
As nations grow, exports of low cost raw materials back to China are ensured.
Containment fails and the West cannot historically fix prices on any raw material again.
Glut. Glut. Glut.
The Doomsday Cadaver has spoken!
"There would be no war anywhere if people have enough to eat, water to drink, shelter and can live in dignity as free people."
AMEN to that.
So let's stop and think about this comment - because it gets to the heart of everything. Why do we have a financial system, why do we have economics? Have we created this system so that a few hundred people can become the "ultimate traders", whilst accumulating great wealth, selling the soul of their grandmother in the process, and selling away the whole country? I am not against entrepreneurs, or well-placed investing. But surely the whole point of having a Financial System - is so that it can serve the Best Interests of All the People on this Planet. OK, that is a Utopian ideal. But at least if we can serve the best interests of most people, it's the right direction.
CLEARLY, we are moving in the wrong direction. How is the unrestrained growth of the Derivatives Market any kind of solution to the problems facing the world today? We all need to contemplate that question a LOT.
Various scientific studies have shown that the Earth can probably support 2-6 bilion people. It all depends upon what you assume is an "acceptable lifestyle". If you assume an absolutely "minimalist approach" to life, maybe the Earth can support 5-6 billion people. Maybe! If you want everyone to live like an American family with a three-car garage, then the answer is maybe 2-3 billion people.
TODAY we have 7.2 billion people. We have OVERSHOT the sustainable limit.
We are heading towards 9 billion people by the year 2060.
There is ONLY ONE resolution to all of this. Just one outcome. A new series of wars, disasters and famines that dramatically reduce the number of people on the Earth. We are talking about an increase in human mortality rates that is FAR BEYOND anything we have ever seen before. That is basic math. You can't fight it, you can't change it.
And that is where we are headed - with the speed of a express train that is moving towards derailment.
And where is the Global Financial System - while all this is going on?
That whole system has been perfectly engineered for a total COLLAPSE. Unrestrained derivatives, lack of sensible limits on leverage, and a complete absence of reliable collateral for trades. Brilliant thinking!!!
or not.
US can't go to war with either Russia or China. Gotta be both. You think one will wait? Hahaha.
And good luck with that one. Stupid old cunt has lost his marbles.
First get the Fcuk out of Ukraine Soros.
You are one of mankind's most evil specimens.
Possibly the Devil personified
One guess as to who Soros will be backing in the event things get hot.
Even a vampire like him prefers to stay above ground...
This fucking jerk should be in a retirement home for neocon warmongerers. Its hard to believe this evil old fuck is still alive when good people his age have already passed on. I'm happy that all the money he spent on Ukraines violent coup has been flushed down the toilet. Fuck Soros!!!
No other endeavors or actions taken by man has destroyed more millionaires, billionaires, and bankers than war!
george soros summary in 3:48
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41unDj4PuD8
Either US capitulates and we all become ruled by the gangster families that run China for their own benefit OR its world war 3. That simple really.
Given the US wont capitulate and the Chinese want to be in charge then its WW3
So what should the US do about it? SLAP TARIFFS ON NOW! That will bring China to its knees. Also cause some re deleveraging in the US which will be unpleasant but a whole less unpleasant than WW3
So we need to start the ecnoomic war before the military one
umm
but we started that war and we're getting our sphincter cleaned.
Unless you are poopy-brained enough to think the DJIA is singing a song of redemption.
Instead of doing charity, the sick rich S.O.B is selling war.
Some investment of his is getting screwed up by this U.S./China conflict.
What war is he pretending to be avoided? The one in his decaying money rules all brain.
George, you miserable piece of shit, China is getting closer to Russia and you just can't fucking stand it, can you? I am praying for the day one of your own bodyguards plugs your wrinkly ass and send you to your father the debbil, where can can roast for all eternity.
Recomended reading!
Great thoughs on the multilateral transition towards the SDR as world reserve currency, as here encouraged by Soros, is explained with brilliance by JC Collins on http://philosophyofmetrics.com/
Soros: I really hate Russia. Lets use TPP and China to exclude Russia some more.
So who thinks Soros is loaded up on Russian, Chinese and US stocks
Ah, the Orwellization of the narrative re Ukraine from one of the Ring Wraiths.
Predictable inane twaddle from a man who begins to suspect his efforts to rape Ukraine are endangered by Russia and China and much of the rest of the world seeing the naked megalomaniacal greed and bloodlust of the Anglo-Zionist Empire of Chaos, within which is sustained the yet darker lusts of The Torah and Talmud....One Ring to fool them all.
Fuck you, George.
We have not yet begun to fight.
You're being flanked, nigga. Separatist enclaves? Enjoy the Banderite Awakening. He who fights with monsters, George....
You know when one of my scumbag alumni's opens his mouth, he's no good intentions at all. Theory of Reflexivity!
Yea right, reforms go sour hahahaha. The only thing going sour right now is the EU and the US with its internal chaos.
And we all know what happens to people like George when world wars break out!
"Both the US and China have a vital interest in reaching an understanding because the alternative is so unpalatable," Soros wrote in an article for the New York Review of Books, with the danger imminent if Chinese economic reforms fail forcing President Xi Jinping to "foster some external conflicts to keep the country united and maintain himself in power."
Do you have lots of geniuses like that in the USA? It sure takes an Einstein to understand that, if you try to bully a strong country, it will strike back but then, the Orwellian touch of calling the leader of the aforementioned country a bastard and a warmongerer has to be appreciated for its comedic, insane dimension. All the more wen you plead for a diplomatic reset in the relations. Does this moron think his insults will be lost on Xi?
I mean, with that much brainpower behind such little respect for the intelligence of others, let alone fairness, the fact this atrocious bloke could make a fortune speaks volumes about the kind of mind one needs, i.e, not much more than a gigantic void about anything resembling humanity and a good calculator.
Ever notice that the letters in the name "George Soros" can be rearranged to spell out, "Piece of Shit"?
"President Vladimir Putin wants to destabilize all of Ukraine by precipitating a financial and political collapse for which he can disclaim responsibility, while avoiding occupation of a part of eastern Ukraine, which would then depend on Russia for economic support..."
That's a lie, Mr. Soros. It is you and your buddies in Washington who have been destabilizing Ukraine in order to bring it under Western domination as the next domino on the way to Russia followed by China.
what war monger mongrel
monster? vampyre? drinker of the bloods of der kinder.
?listen to der childrens howl for lifes at soros slurpings.
?please please mister let us live live lifes.?
how the rothschilds laugh with satan ether spawn agents like these.?
living off pain blood terror for youth attainment age suppression.
playing paying all sides ruining all for the talmud and tora bora.
?the eyes wide shut masonic demon mask slipped long ago with this hungarian liar.
a ?pick pocket gold teeth extractor no nazi gas chambers just endless compensations.?openheimer,teller einstein how clever they are all nuclear all saturn cube death agent blood wrangler.?the chosen ones indeed right royal human butcher
WTF...again?
I todja Peter Wabbit.
What's it gonna be George? War in Ukraine is ok, but fighting between the US and China, not ok? I'm sure it all depends on how either would affect your wealth and influence.
Oh yes, the unipolar hegemon world has so far been a smashing success.
We have continuous war, sometimes even masquerading under the auspices of 'humanitarian relief'. We have one country after another blowing up politically and/or economically thanks to US machinations.
Soros carries the ancient baggage of memories of Soviet satellite Hungary, but there are different bad guys now. There was something to be said for an adversarial relationship keeping 'superpowers' in check. Unfortunately, his pockets are lined with the new villains' money to the point of blindness. He has been able to exert enormous political influence to ensure that.
However, if he wanted to advise on what nowadays passes as US foreign policy, he's several years too late. He now admonishes USSA to play nice with China?
P.Prize has seen to the unravelling of what was recognized and guarded against for around the last 50 years or so - a Sino-Russ alliance.
Instead, this three card monty player has structured a foreign policy 'strategy' that has forced China and Russia to bond together economically in a way they have never approached before. It's brilliant for them.
These jerks are clueless.
Soros speak:
1. War is good in Ukraine because I make money
2. War is not good in China because I will lose money
in a world where central authority is rapidly devolving, china seems to be the deer in the headlights. huge country various ethnic and racial differences. planned economy planned religion family planning. people want choice. autonomy. the chinese leadership in bejing is one financial crisis away, and with it goes the worlds second largest economy. thats the problem.
Please forgive my ignorance.....but are you speaking of China or the USSA in your post. I really can not tell a dimes worth of difference these days and i mean that in total sincerity.
One has hundreds of troops and military bases all over the world and is "peaceful" the other reclaims an island for a military base not too far away from its shores and it is an "aggressive threat to the world" Spot the the difference now
I don't pretend to understand Soros or his motivations, other than financial alliances which would bring him and his buddies more money. I do perceive that he and they are also in this for more power as well.
Meanwhile, the west has it's head completely inserted rectally, especially the US.
So much so that they think that they are in a movie theatre, instead of where they really are.
The media? Two possibilities. 1. complete imbeciles or 2. co-participants and conspirators. You judge which is more (moar?) likely.
This reminds me of that scene from Blazing Saddles, where Sheriff Bart (Cleavon Little) tells The Waco Kid (Gene Wilder) “If you keep drinking like that you’re going to die”. To which The Kid responds with eager anticipation, “When?”
funny yesterday i read that the leadership in bejing is warning its people against any coloured revolution in china, they REJECT western culture. today i see this https://www.yahoo.com/news/china-hollywood-size-ambitions-film-industry-...
chinese companies invest in WHORRYwood.
didn't he used to be called Simon Legree or Simon var Sinister ?
http://sadhillnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/george-soros-simon-bar...
wisefool warns George Soros: Pay your taxes asshole, or the IRS will continue to bully a million lower middle class people to make up for the lost revenue from just one of you deadbeat billionaires.
1920s/2000s - High inequality, high banker pay, globalisation phase
1929/2008 - Wall Street crash
1930s/2010s - Rising nationalism, currency wars
1940s/? - Global war
Deja Vu?
Another Vital Chokepoint Just Slipped Through DC’s Fingers - DC Loses Another Fight
17 June 2015, (The Wealth Watchmen)
http://thewealthwatchman.com/another-vital-chokepoint-just-slipped-through-dcs-fingers/
We just heard Zion yell "uncle" to China.
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission..
Can't nuke 'em if you still need to borrow from 'em.
I think it would be better to wait until China violates the latest Rimnibi-trov/ Molotov-esque treaty and invades ( or occupies) Siberia before anyone lifts a finger.
Let China and Russia figure out their own problems first, before India has to, and then, let China knwo that they lost everything at the casino.
BRILLIANT GEO POLITICAL ANALYSIS!!!
Something Rand Paul and Ron Paul are intellectually challenged to do...
SOROS GIVES GREAT ADVICE...
MAKE A DEAL WITH THOSE MF CHEATING CHINKS,
AND CUT OFF PUTINS DICK!!
wake the fuck up, Ken, and smell the shit in your panties
There has been such an alliance between China and Russia since The Korean War , but brain dead asswipes like you and Soros are too deep in denial to realize it.
BEGONE
Back into the genital herpes lesion out of which you oozed.