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Carl Icahn: Donald Trump Is Completely Correct That "We Are In A Bubble Like You've Never Seen Before"
Yesterday during an interview on MSNBC, presidential candidate Donald Trump said he has some big names in mind for the Treasury secretary if he wins the White House. "I'd like guys like Jack Welch. I like guys like Henry Kravis. I'd love to bring my friend Carl Icahn." He also opined on the economy and the stock market, admitting that the Fed has benefited people like him but that the economy and is in a "big fat economic and financial bubble like you've never seen before."
Moments ago Carl Icahn decided to use his Shareholders' Square Table as the venue in which to respond to his quasi-nomination for Treasury Secretary (he politely declines), and also to opine on Trump's warning that the market is "one big fat bubble" (he agrees).
I was extremely surprised to learn that Donald was running for President and even more surprised that he stated he would make me Secretary of Treasury. I am flattered but do not get up early enough in the morning to accept this opportunity.
There are others much more knowledgeable than I concerning Presidential elections. I will therefore decline to opine on his chances. But I am knowledgeable concerning markets and believe Donald is completely correct to be concerned that we have “a big fat bubble coming up. We have artificially induced low interest rates.”
I personally believe we are sailing in dangerous unchartered waters. I can only hope we get to shore safely. Never in the history of the Federal Reserve have interest rates been artificially held down for so long at the extremely low rates existing today. I applaud Donald for speaking out on this issue – more people should.
Some of us do. And what about AAPL? Is that still a double (pending some $500 billion in stock buybacks)?
And now, time to insert the obligatory reminder about music playing and people dancing.
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What bubble is that? The US Dollar and anything priced in it of course.
Bring our jobs back from overseas!! end NAFTA !!..
TRUMP 2016 !!!
Vote Trump 2016!!
A casino in every pot!
Tons of people are correct about how fucked up all this shit is. It doesn't take Donald fucking Trump to tell us how fucked up shit is. It's just that anybody who knows what's going on and has the balls to tell the truth about it gets destroyed by the scumbag political criminals in charge and their puppets in the "media".
And the dumbed down Kardashitard following losers of this country (and world) take the lies hook, line and sinker.
They don't care about the truth of what's really going on no matter who tells them. They just want to bitch and moan and cry about all the racial bullshit, gender bullshit, political Right/Left bullshit, anti-gun, anti-Constitutional bullshit, etc. etc. etc.
And absolutely NONE of them want to do the hard thing which is to admit everything is fucked and to start getting prepared for a very hard and painful landing.
All cowards and pussies.
They just want to keep drinking the koolaid and take their place in the Free Shit Army along side the rest of the sheeptards.
You're right and the way in which you so eloquently stated it made me smile! Thanks!
DavidC
What is Trump's official stance re: 9/11?
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Then we can talk/debate...
Voting only encourages the bastards.
It's 2015, do we really need government babysitters to tell us how to live, what to eat, where and how to spend our money...?
You guys are looking at this all wrong - it's a great opportunity.
Consider that Trump 1) is probably on SSRIs, 2) is a sociopath and psychopath and 3) has a bad haircut. Now what does the FBI do with that exact same kind of material?
I say we scolo him, arm him to the teeth, set him loose in Washington D.C. and then just sit back and let nature take it's course.
He would be the first lone-wolf terrorist with a chauffeur and a private helicopter.
Finally!
Someone who gets it!!
Ya fiyad
https://youtu.be/llbzUyv1CLU
icahn, sheesh, he bought tons of bubble ebay with a p/e of 1152 last time I looked. he thought he had talked alibaba head into buying ebay when ali finally goes ipo, but they did, but didnt buy ebay.
F the Fed.. F the banks..
We can do just fine without them.
From the article: "a big fat bubble coming up. We have artificially induced low interest rates"
Is this why Greece is going down now? If Europe blows it gives the Fed a reason to keep suppressing rates.
Thesis. Antithesis. Synthesis.
Jeeesus Christ! Donny-the wig-Trump and his sidekick (running mate?) Carl Applekahn!
How fucking LOW do you have to sink...?
Trump, the weapon of mass destruction greater than all nukes and financial derivatives combined.
Priceless lol!!!
I think P.J. O'Roarke said it best:
"Our government gets more than thugs in a protection racket demand, more even than discarded first wives of famous rich men receive in divorce court. Then this government, swollen and arrogant with pelf, goes butting into our business. It checks the amount of tropical oils in our snack foods, tells us what kind of gasoline we can buy for our cars and how fast we can drive them, bosses us around about retirement, education and what's on TV; counts our noses and asks fresh questions about who's still living at home and how many bathrooms we have; decides whether the door to our office or shop should have steps or a wheelchair ramp; decrees the gender and complexion of the people to be hired there; lectures us on safe sex; dictates what we can sniff, smoke, and swallow; and waylays young men, ships them to distant places and tells them to shoot people they don't even know."
~ P.J. O'Roarke
With Trump's speech, a lot of "Joe Q Publics" heard for the first time how bad things are and are listening.
And will immediately reach the wrong conclusions.
Enlightenment seldom prevents a moron from being moron.
At least he's not telling them to go to church or selling any other "hope and change".
He's gonna fire allot of people if elected President. lol
At least he's Pro Guns.... >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XONTNJsggjI&feature=youtu.be
With Trump's speech, a lot of "Joe Q Publics" heard for the first time how bad things are and are listening. Go Trump!
Okay, Crash. You stay home. I will go out and vote. That way, I will determine who gets babysitters, and who the babysitters are.
You'll get the blonde, and I'll get the one in the toiban. :-)
Is there still a debate? Everyone outside Amerikanistan has figured out that 9/11 was an inside job and only those inside Amerikanistan who wish to sign up for the Gulag are telling the truth about it. The world has long figured out that the Amerikanski Emperor is not wearing any clothes.
Best hope for Amerikanistan is to elect a President who stands on an isolationist platform because that's what the Chinese and the Russians doing as well.
9/11 Not exactly an inside job.
The U.S. was attacked by terrorists from the Middle East.
You probably saw them dancing and high-fiving ...
all roads lead to Washington.. pay stubs from CIA
Although not inclined to return to the Matrix, I do prefer the taste of a rare steak.
It's a tossup whether taking the RedPill 7 years ago was worth it.
Ignorance can be bliss.
About the same amount of time for me. Hope you had an easier time with it.
As it is now, nobody asks me about much anymore, which is actually a blessing. Unless something bad happens. Then people ask "the crazy guy" when their canned defense mechanisms don't assuage their anxiety and allow them to go back to sleep.
Of course, after talking, they are even more apt to grab some liquor and wash their minds of what I speak about.
Nobody wants to hear about how the entire system that they have loved and hated their whole lives was designed and is functioning to merely turn us in to slaves to pay interest.
pods
Now talk about the overwhelming asymmetric representation of ethnic identities of the creators of 'the system' you speak of, & watch their eyes really start to do pinwheels. FFS - that subject will even piss off about half the people on ZH.
I injected the red pill and smoked the rest.
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Just because this reality chapter they created for us is fuckin shit...it doesnt mean the rest of the story is.
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Ever see the grave of a poor person and a rich person? - They are exactly the same. Knowledge is power...
When you are a parent and wish your genetics to be passed down through the future, the blue pill is not a option. Only preparation and execution of the preparation plans.
As you....I found the red pill 8 years ago...and took it. I no longer present what I know to anyone. Once in awhile I meet a like minded chap...we laugh at how we are ridiculed. I sometimes wonder what it would be like to be a blue colar worker...not knowing...struggling for a little piece of the pie.....ahhh Fuck em...we all here took the red pill...we now know what 99% do not. Hey..we are the new 1%...woohoo.
President Trump addressing the Nation
"This country is so fucked up, I can't even come up with the words to describe how fucked up it is... and I got news for you... You're all fucked too, You... Your Chilren , Your grandchildren are all fucked!"
"Quite frankly.. If I didn't have a billion dollars , I'd be shitting in my pants"
I'd vote for him just to hear a speech like that from a President, haha. He may be a crackpot narcissist, but at least he's rich enough to be very hard to bribe.
@ least the hairdoo. Is a U.S. born citizen & not a muslim
not a Clinton or Bush either....
Too intelegent as well. Bush Jr., not so bright. Obama, not so bright. He wouldn't make a good puppet and therefore will not win the primary. Say what you want about Hillary ( I am disgusted by her) but she isn't an idiot and I don't believe she will be president for that very reason.
I disagree; he's so interested in money he'd be easy to bribe (if you had enough).
The most eloquent post in fucking years!!
I agree with you but wish no ill will on anyone. History has shown that these are the types of people that end up fodder when the correction sets in. There will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth, be careful not to get too close.
There is no mark to market value on many in our society. A bubble of inflated self worth.
Imo, i don't think Trump has the 'special' blood lineage to be President.
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Of course it doesnt mean he can't run...its just he doesnt get the nod and wink from the guy behind the throne to get it.
Where was his Bilderberg invitation? Lost in the mail? Yeah, I thought so. NEXT
Only Hillary had representation there. One of her top aides.
Yo Save_America1st , very fucking nice...............
As long as we get to run our own casino and keep the profits, I see nothing wrong with that :-)
Or should it be Pot in every casino?
Yes the ORANGE American is corect! Yes the time has come for our first Orange American president.
Black guy didn't do to good
Lets see... hmmm... solve trade with government intervention. Trump sounds like a flaming merchantilist. Nothing new here.
...bring our jobs back. LOL. Troll?????
is this what it's come down to for any truth to enter the msm? donald trumpeting his fishy mouth? I remember when Obama talked a convincing game too.
the ultimate truth about this economy though is no one, not donald trump or anyone else can change things now. its course is set and the iceberg is dead ahead. of course, you'll never hear him admit that.
Thanks for the red pill!
Should be the credit derivatives bubble covered so excellently at zerohedge --- including some very lucid and brilliant comments.
Now, certainly enough people already are aware of this without so-called icons of Icahn and Donald Dump spewing forth?
Will 'The Donald'.....
Push to do those things and he'll have my attention. Otherwise.....yawn.
Not if wants to continue breathing he won't.
Trump has my vote.
I will vote for him as well, but something tells me he'll be Ross Perot(ed)....
The ticket should be Icahn/Trump Prez/VP!
Trump-Palin, I tell you.
you mean he will be endlessly ridiculed by every talking head on tv, there will be sketches making fun of him on saturday night live, he will not even get his name on the ballot, but in 10 years everyone will talk about how he was 100% correct with everything he said?
duplicate.
fuck Donald Chump and Carl ICON...
heres is ur 3 day chart of the phpny paper price of Silver ....
see anything interesting??????
http://www.kitco.com/charts/livesilver.html
Something about the European close?
Bubbles, bubbles everywhere and who has the pin?
@TuPhat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfSYeXPQaQI&feature=related
Bubbles in my bath ... I'm FED up
Bubbles and water
Legs up for hours
My goldfish is under me
To bathe for hours
Makes my mouth water
I'm "foamely" ecstatic
It's not a problem
I lazy 'round
Bubbly and subborn
I lazy 'round
Melon and water
Is just a dream
It makes me wonder
Is it a "sin"?
Bubbles and water
Legs up for hours
"Bombs", you keep away from me!
Today lying low
Twisting up my toes
I swim in such harmony
So what bothers me:
I'm fed up with loneliness
With my uncle overstressed
Fumbling, crawling for something
That never shows, just a dream.
I'm fed up with creeps crying
Over the past, such a sin
Not to be cool, but a fool
If I could mess up their rules.
I'm fed up with your complaints
Baby, well I'm not a saint!
Fed up with the rain, the plane...
That makes me throw up again.
I'm fed up with all cynics
Bathing caps and all critics
I'm fed up with being fed up! Poor me!
Bubbles and water
Legs up for hours
My goldfish still under me!
Delight of pleasures
Aquatic treasures
A place out of misery, my fantasy
Where are all the Trump haters at? Fuck you all. GO TRUMP!!!!!
Well "hate" is a very strong word. It takes a lot of energy to hate. I simply will not spend the energy hating any worthless dickwad politician.
Maybe you can put me down for disdain?
pods
Trump is not a polician dumbass and what's why everyone on here with a brain likes him
He is now. He said so when he announced his candidacy for political office.
If you think his $8 billion net worth isn't tied to the money masters, I have a bridge to sell you.
If that bridge was built in Idaho recently, they flew in a bunch of Chinese construction workers to build it, much the same way Trump used a bunch of (200) undocumented Polish workers to demolish one of his buildings.
Can we please have an American-made bridge for sale?
There is not 1 billionaire that isnt a politician.
All politicians are lying sacks of shit who make back room deals and love the occasional circle jerk.
You are 1 fucking clueless retard.
It's people like you who make me believe we need eugenics. You incompetent double digit IQ plebeian bitch.
It's people like you who make me believe we need eugenics. You incompetent double digit IQ plebeian bitch.
<golf clap>
Was it really necessary to go there, asshole?
"likes" him? Brain?
You do realize the term "like" is an emotion correct? Brains, or thinking, has little to do with emotion.
The whole reason why we are as FUCKED as we are is that people, smart people, have "thought" with their emotions.
Can you define politician for me please? I always thought that a politician, in the proper definition, is one who sought public office.
But again, I must not have a brain.
pods
If I only had a brain, I could do so many things...
Just what we need.
A reality teevee president.
Maybe he can choose Caitlin as a running mate.
Fuckin retard.
If he announces Camacho as his running mate, I'll pretend to vote for him.
...deck chairs on the Titanic...
One more time the elites are warning us.
They plan to bring the whole world into slave like conditions & digital tracking / banking is the plan...
It's just sad that I couldn't wake up more people earlier, before September comes... :/
A friend of mine is a billionaire, loves Alex Jones, is lobbing the Gov't to release all of Nicholas Tesla's materials that were confiscated. Anyhow he is freaked out and thinks very bad things will be happening soon but will not leave this country because he believes its his duty to help rebuild afterwards. I fear for him as he is also a firm believer in the Constitution and I believe people with money like him will be targeted for that reason.
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Great, Ask him if would like to make a $75,000 loan to a fello ZH'er to buy some farmland in Ecuador. I'll pay a reasonable interest rate.
Yes, if he needs anyone to help store/ hide any of his metals before his inevitable demise I could definitely be available for that.
Does your buddy smoke weed? Ask him if he wants to buy a couple elbows of some good shit. TIA
Voting for him just because he understands there is a bubble is rediculous, anyone with 2 braincells to rub together can see that we are in a bubble. Rand is the cleanest shirt in the hamper as far as i can see , he has the balls to even mention the FED and tried to stop mass collection.
Right, now if only that Goldman Sachs thing wasn't the case..
Considering that the existing polititicans don't have two brain cells amongest them all, a President with two brain cells would be refreshing.
And drones accidentally falling on people's heads.
MOAB (mother of all bubbles)
Trump won't ever be president of the USA but he will shake some trees and rattle some cages during the election cycle....he speaks a lot of truth in very plain terms.
Exactly.
Him in the primary strengthens Rand Paul. So I am all for it.
Trump isn't running for President. he's running to stroke his ego-- just like last time. He loves the attention but will soon bow out.
I appreciate what he says and applausd him for speaking up while he is making his play for airtime.
However...
The last person I want anywhere near the White House is a developer from New York City.
That is just as corrupt as a community organizer from Chicago. Perhaps even more so.
I'd actually vote for Larry Silverstein. Can you imagine, all he would have to do is accidentally say "pull it" and things collapse.
pods
lmao
Yes the words caught on tape and never spoken about again on main stream media. Its as if Building 7 didn't exist and never fell to the ground.
fucking brilliant!
I cannot believe how many times that I'm just about to post a thought of mine, I read down the page, and guess what?
Tarabel beat me to it!
I luv u Tarabel! --Scooby
You know that is not her real photo, don't you?
I want to hear what the Pope says about his candidacy before I 'like' him /sarc (in case anyone was wondering).
Trump has never 'officially' entered the race for president until this year. ANd yes its to stroke his ego and add to his brand awareness...half the candidates know they have abolutely no shot at being POTUS, but its a very cheap way to build a national brand, especially when you use other peoples money. That being said, the fact that he is official means his voice will be heard where it never was heard before; perhaps in televised debates. He will have the abiity to influence and shape voters perceptions and he will pull conservatives to the right merely by his straight talk and force of personality. He will be a big motivator for the party base as well...even if you don't like the Donald, you love to hear him poniticate and bloviate.
dont they all have egos as big as Trump Tower?
Of course they do. None of them are little milquetoasts--
I noticed that in his interview that he wasn't wearing the ever present flag lapel pin. This can only mean one thing, these phukers are learning.
The IMF was training Greek journalists not to say that Greek debt was unsustainable.
The poodles and liars of American media, like Brian Williams and Liesman, have been trained to avoid the topic of US debt and unfunded liabilities which are $1,400,000 per US taxpayer and rising at $70,000 per taxpayer per year. By comparison, Greek debt is $65,000 per Greek taxpayer.
Forward - to more lies and misdemeanors
Ron Paul had the same message and it was a media blackout. More fakery for the masses to keep occupied while DC passes frivolous laws behind their backs.
And the BLACKOUT continues...
It's like watching a bad movie all over again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6sodFTx8So
Maybe if each of the GOP candidates can come up with ONE good idea they can get together to form a cohesive plan that works for Amerika. I've yet to see one person with enough brain cells and honesty to do it alone.
Hillary!
Hillary-ous
I have an admission to make bitchez, Element is Donald Trump.
It's true.
Does Carl still have a position in Urban Moving Systems?
"All about the churn."
Folks who believe in this have totally missed out on one of the greatest asset inflations in history.
Saying "we're in a bubble" also avoids having even a minor discussion about the Fed and "does anyone have a clue?" In short if interest rates have been too low for too long yet again why are real rates so low?
Is there inflation? Absolutely...but the fact remains the Fed has spent trillions and the USA has absolutely zippo to show for it relative to economic growth.
In short if we're in a bubble everyone should be massive long treasuries not equities...yet those who have been long equities have made all the money here.
I will watch and enjoy Donald's success.
Remember 'Ross Peroe' we need a business man in charge, not socialists!
Statist sociopaths. My humble opinion is that America should be run like a corporation ie to make a profit in financial and human terms. Cut this fucking benefit system to the bone . Rise up folks and vote for trump
Oh yes, run it like Crapple, pay no tax and employ slave labour.
Neutron Jack off?
I'll take Trump as the next president in a heartbeat.
Enjoy the steak, coppertop.
I'll have the surf-n-turf, and I want to be somebody famous...like a pro golfer.
I believe a trump presidency would be a major positive for this country. From what ive heard him say over the years and in recent interviews:
1. Acknowledges we are in unprecedented bubbles in financial markets that only real men with real backbones will address & not lie
2. He can’t be bought by any lobbyists and I do believe he loves this country
3. Said he would bridge relations with Russia & not piss in their backyard like obozo is & has been doing, leading us pretty close to the brink
4. He was against the Iraq war in 2004; was on record saying iran & iraq served as a check on each other in the middle east; taking out either would completely destabilize the region
end-of-the-day, he wont get elected because he would get things done, not lie about the situation we are in, and not be bought. That is simply unacceptable in todays Washington where its based on creating problems & saying you can solve them by raising taxes and pissing $$$ away. Its how shit gets (not) done there.
also regarding trump, America hates rich people now. Not sure why, but since obozo has been in office, we’ve been conditioned that ANYONE who has made it, cheated. While trump did have several companies go belly-up, so fucking what? Its what businessmen do over the course of their life when they take risk – they will fail and investors will get burned. If u believe in the individual, you keep doubling & tripling down on them. if ur wrong, you f’d. if ur right, they will provide dividends.
they villified romney and he's EXACTLY what we needed; he's a bankruptcy specialist & we're broke. unfortunately, the masses don't wanna face reality so the cycle will most likely continues until the thing pops. i at least give trump props for raising awareness of the truth of the issues we face & he will at lease shake-up the debates & force the field to answer tough responses they may not be ready for his angle on.
They don't want a person that can think in office, especially a patriot. Therefor the next person will be dimwitted with no business experience. A puppet.
two looters agree. big whoop.
buzz - i don't disagree with u on the surface but we got some real fuggin issues here that hillary is clearly not gonna address; so-long as the stock market keeps going up, she will believe she's doing her job. we need someone who is willing to get in there and blow shit up. JMO but at least romney & trump would not we HAVE TO start by first stop digging. i could be dead wrong, but i believe either guy would immediately stop the endless QE, fed interest rate subsidy that is going to eventually blow this market apart (only a question of how high we go until we know how far we're gonna drop) and get the debt/deficit under control. again, i could be dead wrong, but i think either guy would target that first, second, and third.
i believe either guy would immediately stop the endless QE
Both are degenerate ZIRP junkies.
I thought Donald was running for Hair Club for LGTWMXYZ President!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpqtvvTnXUU
I thought the bubble was when Greenspan passed one in the tub...
Isn't Trump the one who says "you're fired!" We need a lot more of that and a lot less of Clinton/Bush. Things couldn't be any stupider than they are. At least he would be entertaining.
Yes Trump's slogan should be "It can't get any worse than the last two and at least it will be fun!"
Or maybe instead of Obama phones there will be: Trump! Champagne in every bucket!
Everything will be, "Fabulous."
You know we're in the Mother of all Bubbles when ZH'ers think Trump is presidential material.
@europeanamerican - i hate to operate on a relative basis V an absolute, but thats where we are. if faced with hillary OR a repub such as jeb, jindal, graham, huckabee, christie --- IMO trump would be leaps & bounds better. im personally a scott walker fan because he actually got shit accomplished up in wisconsin regarding getting their debt carved out & turned deficits into surpluses. while its only 1 state and not a nation, at least its a + record. rand or ron paul id be all for but they aren't gonna have enough $$$ (and theres the real problem) so walker IMO is the only realistic % gainer in the polls who if elected can hopefully save us before we hit this debt asteriod we are headin for at about 1000 MPH.
Too late to fix this disaster, sorry.
I think there may be a ripple in the space-time continuum, because I am certain we hit the asteroid in 2008.
Ah yes, It's "lesser of two evils time". heh
and why should we give any extra points to jeb or hillary?
All these sociopaths running for President is to make Americans feel like they have a choice. Ignore the circus and focus on who's going to represent you in the House. Do vote in the primaries; don't vote for an incumbent, and choose one of the least-financed candidates. Then in two years, do it again. That will clear out a majority of sociopaths, and just maybe we can read the bills before they are passed.
Don't understand the Trump support. This is a guy who declared corporate bankruptcy twice to protect his own ass(ets)!
He has been in the belly .... of the socialist beast .... and has survived .... tested by fire .... ready to lead .... ready to serve .... the country .... he just happens to love .... how fucking refreshing is that .... Obummer ?
Ex-creditor
Maybe the theory is that Trump can sweep a few trillions in US Government debt under the rug somewhere? It mut be a pretty big carpet.
It got to the point in Florida where contractors had to have their money up front before doing any work for Trump. He has put many a small businessman out of business by not paying them after the job was done. I know another clown in Atlanta that is related to Henry Flagler that does the same fucking thing. Beware the fucking rich, they didn't get that way by being honest.
Had i-Con had political aspirations Trump would have lost my vote.
You "swerved into the truth" .... Trump will surround himself .... with classy people .... we can respect ?
Anyone with more than 10,000,000 like Trump should be arrested and their wealth redistributed. Tech is too powerful for financial perverts to be roaming the earth.
10 million is nothing. It is possible to have a net worth that high and have earned it completely honestly. I know a guy with a net worth above 500M who made his money honestly.
Who are you to rob people simply because they are rich? If they defrauded a bunch of people to make their money, then prosecute them for fraud. Otherwise STFU.
When these jackanapes talk "bubble" the sheeple always assume the reference is to the stock market. IMHO we have a bond bubble first, then a stock market bubble. Don't count the stock market out yet!
Donald Trump .... could be the new Reagan .... and much more .... he could be a game changer .... likeability says a lot about a man .... I wouldn't mind a little more .... of that commodity, myself !
Yes, peak ignorance/cronyism...
Donald Trump .... the essential American exceptional .... impossible to hate him .... politically risky to villify him !
But they potentially may possibly, if the stars align, bump the rate up a fraction of a percent.
Loath Trump, I still do not believe he has serious ambition even as a potential VP, just self promotion with other people's money. But he is right about the bubble and we all know that is true. Te Fed and federal government have essentially moved the decimal points in our economy of debt, e only two ways it can end, either the vast majority of the public will crawl up to those new moved decimal places over the next 30-40 years till catch up all the while paying the vast new inflation tax, or the bubble will pop, because incomes simply do not support the prices of anything these days. At least not for 90+ percent of us. Ditto the cure, redistribution is also nothing more than the moving of the decimal points back down. Impose a temporary 99% wealth tax on everything over 1 MM so that those who have looted the rest of us can pay down what they can and default on the rest via a new gold/silver backed dollar. Reset. Ban all debt financing by government on all levels. It is theft from the middle class and a gift to the wealthy. Make one exception, declared war, with goals clearly defined. End the Fed. As long as banksters are in charge of our money (and now our economy) we all are nothing but Serfs in our own land. Some serfs are more favored but we are all serfs.