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Angry Russia Will "Respond In Kind" To Europe's Asset Seizures
On Thursday, nearly 50 Belgian companies were told to disclose their Russian state assets, setting the stage for the seizure of Russian property in connection with the disputed $50 billion Yukos verdict.
In short, Russia was required to submit a plan for a €1.6 billion payment by June 15 pursuant to the 2014 arbitration court decision which found in favor of Yukos shareholders who the ECHR ruled were treated unfairly when Moscow seized the company amid allegations of fraud and other crimes. Russia appealed the ruling and lost.
Because Russia does not look set to comply, Belgium is effectively moving to enforce the ruling itself. Austria and France also moved to freeze Russian assets on Thursday.
It now appears the timing of the asset freezes was designed to stir controversy in St. Petersburg where Russia is hosting an annual business forum (described by some as a “Russian Davos) and where Greece is executing the first stages of the dreaded 'Russian pivot.'
Now, Russia looks set to retaliate, threatening to freeze Belgian, Austrian, and French assets until such a time as the countries’ “illegal” actions are reversed. RT has more:
Moscow will take reciprocal action in response to the seizure of its foreign assets, Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has warned.
“Our response would be in kind. This is inevitable. This is the only way of acting in international affairs,” he told RBK-TV in an intervew.
Lavrov was commenting on the seizure in Belgium and France of Russian state-owned assets. The arrest were made on request of beneficiaries of the now-defunct oil giant Yukos, who were awarded damages from Russia by an arbitration court in The Hague. Russia is in the process of challenging the ruling.
The minister added that his priority in this situation now is to unfreeze the accounts of the Russian Embassy in Belgium.
The freezing of diplomats' accounts “absolutely goes against the Vienna accords on foreign relations that guarantee the immunity of diplomatic assets, real estate and corresponding things. Belgian foreign ministry officials are indicating to us that they were not aware of it,” Lavrov said. “We don't accept these explanations.”
And here’s FT with the opposing viewpoint...
Tim Osborne, director of GML, the former Yukos holding company, told the Financial Times he was aware of the French and Belgian moves but could not confirm exactly what had been frozen.
The assets had been “attached” to GML’s claim to get the Yukos ruling enforced, to ensure they could not be moved abroad before legal hearings expected within the next year.
“We still have to convince a legal court [in these countries] that our arbitration award should be recognised as the equivalent of a judgment in their court, so they can enforce it,” he said.
“We remain confident that we will win, and that we will collect if not all, then a substantial part, of the award — but it will take time.”
Mr Osborne said GML had started similar steps to get the UK and US to recognise the arbitration panel award but other countries had different asset seizure rules.
Andrei Belousov, an economic aide to Vladimir Putin, Russian president, told the St Petersburg forum that the country planned to appeal against the award. “We are concerned. We expect a number of countries to take similar measures,” he said.
...and here's a bit more from Bloomberg (note the bit about holding Russian reserves outside of US and EU assets):
Russia is bracing for more foreign asset seizures in a clash over the defunct Yukos Oil Co. after France and Belgium began enforcing a $50 billion damages award.
The Permanent Court of Arbitration in The Hague ruled last July that Russia is liable to pay almost half of the $103 billion plus interest sought by GML Ltd., a holding company belonging to four former owners who don’t include Khodorkovsky.
Russia’s appeal of the decision may be heard in November, Finance Minister Anton Siluanov told reporters, while Ulyukayev ruled out paying the damages. Lawyers and government agencies are studying the Belgian ruling, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters.
While the asset freezes are unlikely to affect the Bank of Russia’s international reserves, keeping the cash pile outside of U.S. or EU assets is under consideration, Siluanov said. “No such decision has been taken so far, we believe that we can keep the existing structure for now,” he said.
The Yukos plaintiffs are targeting Russian government assets in France and Belgium that aren’t protected by diplomatic immunity in a process that could take years to resolve, GML Director Tim Osborne said by phone from London.
“We are not in this for a Pyrrhic victory,” he said. “We haven’t ruled out other jurisdictions, but they will be more difficult” because of local laws on asset seizure.
Given the timing (see above) and given the situation in Ukraine and Moscow's rapidly deteriorating 'relationship' (if you can call it that) with Washington and NATO, one cannot help but wonder if Europe is set to use the Yukos case as yet another tool for applying political pressure to the Kremlin. After all, the stage is already set for stepped up economic sanctions and the EU has filed anti-trust charges against Gazprom (even as the energy giant inked an MOU in St. Petersburg on Thursday to double the capacity of what is effectively a Ukraine bypass line). Needless to say, if GML is successful at convincing the US and/or the UK to enforce the ECHR ruling via similar confiscations, things could get very interesting, very quickly.
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New cold war. Only this time it's the West that is banging the heel of its shoe on the podium and screaming incoherently.
Long Russia.
The western banksters are getting increasingly desperate. Stealing Russia's assets in Europe via a EU kangaroo court will further increase Putins support, as even more Russians realize they are at war with the USSA/EU. The actions was launched to piss on Putin at the Russian Economic Forum, but also to distract the sheeple from the Grexit.
Bilderberg just finished up, the bankster troops have their marching orders. Let the games begin. I would stock up on canned goods and water quickly. Ammo too.
Anglo-American Axis Wages Financial/Economic War Against Russia
This really does suck, economic war almost always proceeds a shooting one.
I think this thread is under down-vote attack.
One has to wonder if the banksters have completely forgotten how vilified thier brethen have been historically. Do they really suppose that they can use media control and propaganda to hide all the crimes they are committing to try and retain and expand their power?
Entirely depends if they can fly or are nail proof.
When is this man Putin going to learn. There are 'COSTS' for your behavior.
The Tribe(tm) wants "their" Russia back, ain't gonna happen.... Keep focusing on Kiev and maybe Monsanto will help get the wheat just right for a new chain of bagel outlets in Kiev.
Luckily, economic wars DON'T always blossom into shooting ones. See the US economic war with the USSR as a recent example.
This is an old trick. The US played this same gambit against Japan in the late30s/early 40s.
To assume they are tinkering with something that could spin out of control is naive. This is their path to war, their game of chicken in which Russia will either bow to them or they will wage war.
Putin will bow. He knows how powerful and lethal his adversary is. USA.
Who is down voting me? Stop it.
Sorry, it's just that your posts are so stupid.
I'm going to ignore you from now on.
Even Shaggy says: Zoinks! Scooby's posts are like...groovy!
Scooby posts are shit
It's only the US needs that needs a war. Russia can just stay firm and coplete the de-dollarization of Eurasia, by then the US wil have melt like wax.
Stealing Russia's assets is a desperate move to prop up the failing central bankster ponzi system. Without new assets, the ponzi scheme will collapse.
After the Hague judgement, Putin's close advisor said," There is a war coming in Europe, do you think this matters?"
This is looking more and more likely.
The USSA and her EU puppet are already at war with Russia. Sanctions are an act of war.
They have no choice. They have pretty much looted and stolen all there is to steal from their own people.
WWIII
WW3 will be an ECO/FIN war to end ALL wars ... because there won't be any funny money left to wage future wars when it's over.
WORLD WAR III: Anglo-American Axis vs. BRICS Alliance
Then WWIII has really already started...started back in 2008 maybe??? But what's going to happen after WWIII?
Remember what Einstein said?:
“I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.”He may have been one war off...we now know WWIII is a financial/economic/currency war. Looks like the West is going to lose it badly, too.
If we're driven into WWIV after that with full on nukes and everything else, then WWV (5) will be fought with sticks and stones...if there's even a world left after that.
My ass will be sitting that one out, in Jupiter orbit well away from the action...or maybe holed up deep inside an asteroid somewhere...
Anyone read the Vienna Convention on Foreign Relations? The freezing "diplomats' accounts" is prohibited but "State assets" is not explicity prohibited.
Maybe they did freeze diplomat's accounts and spin it to "State assets".
Even a 15 year old can see this was a politicized move made in distaste. So far I see its the Western governments that are the offensive ones, the ones losing control, the ones having a go and playing with fire...they are desperate for conflict....Russia, China just react defensively to this shit-slinging, and get lambasted by the "free" press for standing up to the shit show narrative most sheeple are expected to swallow.
So what you're saying is that most Americans don't grasp it?....
As can be seen here on ZH, more and more people in the West are siding with Russia, as we see the insanity of Western governments that are acting against the best interests of their own people. Here in America we are saddled with tens of trillions of debt that eventually must be repaid -all for the benefit of billionaire Oligarchs who have been looting this country. Same goes for Europe. And what is the Oligarchs solution? -massive third world immigration to balkanize the western nations in their strategy of divide and conqu -and the establishment of a Police State to control the civil unrest which is to come. .
The only people in the west who are siding with Puutie are the paid trolls who appear to be from the west but post from Moscow. Of course there are a few criminals in the west who admire Puutie for his success in carrying out robbery and getting away with it, until now.
Russian courts and rulers have no respect for private property rights or country borders. Puutie is just another Russian ruler who wants to invade and control neighboring countries.
More like they post for/from SUPRANATIONAL ENTITIES.
Get it right!
The solution to the problem IS NOT and NEVER WILL BE large bodies of government FURTHER from We The People.
It's either more local or fuck off.
and our dear zh user amerikan patriot why you always show up with new handle everytime after getting banned by tyler durden .
I thought Putin put the thieves in jail or had them running for israel and London to hide like the crooks that they are, after they looted the shit out of Russia in the 90's. This is documented, unlike the bullshit you are constantly posting.
Me thinks I'm talking to an asshole whose sole job is to piss on Russia, unfairly or otherwise. In other words, like the major news networks in the United States.
I recognize your type Augie...I eat you idiots for supper every day on the Yahoo comments. You really are that stupid I guess. Just comes naturally to you.
As much as any of you, I hope that a hero (like Putin) comes along to free and topple the USA; but since reading the blog of one of the posters here (http://redefininggod.com), I'm starting to think the NWO is just moving east, and the new boss will be same as the old. The parasites, having exhausted their host, move to another.
"The only people in the west who are siding with Puutie are the paid trolls who appear to be from the west but post from Moscow. "
Dear stupid fuck:
I'm from Gadsden, Alabama, and Putin has my full support.
You stupid fuck.
Sincerely,
Nathan Klein
P.S. die slowly in a fire.
The western banksters are getting increasingly desperate. Stealing Russia's assets in Europe via a EU kangaroo court will further increase Putins support, as even more Russians realize they are at war with the USSA/EU. The actions was launched to piss on Putin at the Russian Economic Forum, but also to distract the sheeple from the Grexit.
More of the same horse shit from a Moscow based Puutie Paid Puppy.
If Puutie wants to respond in kind, he will first need to get an international court to rule in his favor.
That seems unlikely as the thieving communist has screwed international investors time after time and time again. It is not stealing from Russia when the different countries take action to enforce a court ruling awarding compensation for the takings of this kleptocrat totalitarian. His screaming about havving to pay for what he has stolen is the normal response of a thief facing consequences. Russia is the land of kangaroo courts with all major rulings being dictated by Moscow. It is the land where defense attorneys are jailed and left to die without medical care.
All crooks squeal like pigs when apprehended. Puutie is following the normal pattern.
The representative of Dumbfuckisgrad has spoken. There's no bigger thieves or warmongers than the United States, don't feel bad that you gave up the USSR tit for your new master Uncle Sam. Lots of sheeple in Lithuania, Latvia, Poland have done just that. Some people just aren't fit to rule themselves.
The representative of Dumbfuckisgrad has spoken. There's no bigger thieves or warmongers than the United States, don't feel bad that you gave up the USSR tit for your new master Uncle Sam. Lots of sheeple in Lithuania, Latvia, Poland have done just that. Some people just aren't fit to rule themselves.
From Latina: "The western banksters are getting increasingly desperate"
Replace confident with desperate. Maybe overconfident. The firm slaps across Putin's face have gotten more frequent and more obvious. This is occuring because Russia has been unwilling to take a stand since Cuba. The only credit I will give Russia is that they supported the Viet's and even piloted some of their jets. Other than that Russia has been bullied and pushed around, Russia has not only allowed it's allies to be destroyed but has assisted in their destruction. The lack of action and the actions of cooperation tend to indicate there is a Russian elite that has mixed loyalties. Including Putin.
I wonder how much French, Belgian, and Dutch money is in Russia? Probably more than $51.5 billion, I would think.
I would think there are far more Russian assets in the Western world than there is Western assets in Russia...anyone with money in Russia...takes it out...Putin has to many times just taken your assets...this oil company is just one example....let alone the Corrupt government employees will take you assets until you pay them off....So i think the west wins this fight...This is one big reason Russia is still a third world country..all of the wealth leaves....if they were encouraged to reinvest i Russia..it would be a much better country....more jobs and better quality of life
Yea but when the SHTF the only thing that counts is water, food and oil, of which Russia has PLENTY and Europe and the US are missing a few items, unless the US is hiding oil discoveries, which we may be.
US and North America have more than adequate oil supplies. There seems to be no food shortage where I live. Lots of choices other than turnips and cabbage.
Puutie to Russian population: "If you like your turnip, you can keep your turnip."
That may turn out to be his biggest lie if he keeps screwing up in international relations. Annexing and invading adoining countries is a stupid practice. Continuing to confiscate assets of international investors will not improve the Russian economy, just the wealth of Puutie and the oligarch friends.
...There seems to be no food shortage where I live
And yet you are still trolling for a lousy potato. Such character...
Youngman- I heard that Russia was over hauling its legal system to end this kind of legal thievery...in fact it is said the Germans are assisting Russia in up dating its legal system and laws to this end.
Check out this link that's where you can see that there is way more European investment in Russia than vice versa. This shows you FDI stock originating from the EU-27 to various countries when looking at 'outward' and looking at 'inward' you see what other countries have invested in the EU-27. It is in billions of Euros.
http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/images/4/48/Top_10_cou...
Yeah, but the money taken out is from the laregely Jewish Oligarchs who stoled it from the Russian people in the first place. Maybe Western governments can seize the money and eventually return it to the Russian people.
That seems a bit...optimistic.
LOL. You mean the same people that rob their own populations in the lame effort to cover up their failing ponzi scheme?
New Cold War which will end differently than the first version did.
This time it'll end with lead going down range.
Sure, to the extent that there is lead in a nuclear warhead.
Direct war between Russia+China and NATO takes no other form than that.
Until then, proxy wars.
>to the extent that there is lead in a nuclear warhead...
Only at the tail end of the actinium decay chain.
Precisely what the bankers want, to turn lead into gold, or should I say to steal what's not theirs...
Their records are undeniable, their ploys are always visible, and yet these criminals are permitted to continue...
Obviously the banks are directed by big gov., but I have one major problem w/ everyone pointing fingers at the USSA....
This is a European Affair being driven by the biggest banks of all, aka Rothschild et al... (Aka The London Cartel)
I can see this being a relatively short WW3, if you first level the key Zi'Borg and Wahabbi sites. 3+3 should do it, in the ME.
After that, it's where Banksters and Lobbyists are. Another 3. Plus an emp. 10 total.
This is a dollar war, the power of the almighty $ is being challenged by the BRICS and the $ regime will ALWAYS retaliate.
Which one of the BRICS is a success? They're a band of basket cases.
As Jinping said, The G7 are the top 7 most insolvent debtor nations.
India is positioned to be the next rising star. Their demographics are great fairly free nation with a very young population and more on the way.
You mean India is looking like the next country needing democracy, freedom, and economic exploitatoin by the criminal corporatocracy to help them become "Modernized" (Read, to become massively indebted to the big banks so that they can never repay the money loaned to them), but there's only one problem with this.... India is so damn poor, they truly have nothing to steal, therefore the only thing the criminal corps. can get out of India is insanely cheap labor. (Yes even cheaper than China)
Demographics are just a pre-requisite for debt growth, sorry, I meant GDP growth.
The demographics of most MENA countries look pretty good as well, they overbreed like crazy compared to the natural resources base and primary productivity, but I think that will end in a failed region, or two, at this point.
India will only turn into what's called a 'success' via a lot of ground work that's still to be done.
If Putin wanted to hurt the "West" there are so many things he can do to crash the market and rocket up oil prices...
#1. Gold for Hydrocarbons (gas, oil)
#2. Gold + Hydrocarbon backed Rouble
#3. Kick EU and USSA off the ISS, add BRICS
By CONFISCATING EU ASSETS FROM THE ISS!!!
CounterStrike!
The fact that Putin does not do so while Russia's people are being attacked economically indicates that Putin is cooperating at some level. His loyalty must be to his masters behind the curtain and the russian elite (of which he is one).
Sadly, I feel with the moral break down of the US society and the gutless puppet we have in office we would be wiped out in less than a few weeks here in the US.
Sad but true...
WWIII
What the west is doing here in provoking Russia IS extremely dangerous !
War with Russia will be catastrophic as it will soon escalate to nuclear when the actual fighting begins . NO ONE will win this coming war !!!
Bravo Russia! Keep showing the middle finger and stand for your independence and rights!
The fact that G-7 nations keep provoking Russia shows that Russia is moving ahead wisely and in a direction where it protects the rights of its own citizens and also be insulated from any international collapses.
Last 1.5 years, Russians have sold or are continuing to sell all real estate globally, massively reducing travel overseas, closing overseas bank accounts, using tax amnesty in Russia since Dec 2014 and hence strengthening the domectic economy.
At a time, when all countries need more tourism or more real estate buyers, such actions by EU and US are causing themselves more harm than to Russia!
Idiotic!
The Chinese cheerleaders get paid 50 yuan per post. How much do you commie cheerleaders get paid?
How much do the NSA trolls get paid, do tell.
Re Bonzo: Ad Hominem followed by zero intellectual content. Begone Ukie Troll! .....then again perhaps not.
How's that EU visa application working out for you....ROTFL
Lots of ukie bitches sucking dick for freedumb here in the EU. But indeed without a visa.
Have they still got the Internet in Ukie?
even worse than the israeli trolls
Too much -government salaries are way out of control. They also get wage supplements from the CIA heroin profits from Afghanistan. They also get Mexican drug money as every major cartel is owned by a Bank which gives kickbacks from drug sales to NSA and CIA.
If I was Russian, I get my money OUT of the EU! If you don't get bailed in, you will have your assets confiscated.
If I was any man woman or child not in the big club(and I'm not), I would get my "money" where I can hold it in my hand.
Uhh, the US is Communist too.
http://www.criminalgovernment.com/docs/planks.html
I'm sorry, but that's incorrect, America is a corporation indebted to the wealthy bankers of the motherland which rule this nation with an iron fist, the power has never changed, and the British have ruled for how many centuries now? (The Great Whore of Babylon rules over 7 mountains, just look at the lands they conquered, including, Australia, America, China, India, South Africa, and more, correct?)
The Truth about America >>> https://youtu.be/7qIhDdST27g
It's obvious to me that the whole "Jews & Communist" propaganda are nothing more than a distractive front to distract people from the real truth about the powers that be and their agenda which so happens to drag America into wars for profits for the Crown. (E.g. Tony Blair in Iraq, anyone? Anyone?)
http://nesara.insights2.org/CrownTemplars.html << Learn your history!
America is a fascist oligarchy of wealthy people who are directed by the Crown, that's the truth.
Just look at the whole NSA/Snowden scandal which has DEEP ties to M16... (Aka, The Guardian) >>> http://www.theguardian.com/uk/mi6
''The British Empire was an extension of (TRIBE) bankers' financial interests. Indeed, all the non-white colonies (India, Hong Kong, Gibraltar) were "Crown Colonies." They belonged to the City and were not subject to British law although Englishmen were expected to conquer and pay for them.'
http://www.henrymakow.com/000447.html
Babylon is falling, IS FALLING!! ^.^
(Yes I follow Henry Makow as well, he's awesome.)
True to the extent that the British and Euro banking clans, Rothschilds et al, collaborated with their American counterparts ,Rockefellers et al,to establish the Fed. Without the American banking traitors the re colonization would not have taken place as it did. Anyway the rest was downhill from there for America as it only took a century for the parasite to kill its host and now it wants to rule the world....
Considering the Crown is now having to liquidate assets, and all of the Crown's gold was sold out from under it, I think that particular conspiracy theory has run its course.
Sorry, but Communism is a real threat. McCarthy was, in fact, proven right that Communists had been infiltrating US politics and the entertainment industry, as confirmed by declassified Russian documents after the collapse of the USSR.
The only difference between fascism and communism is that the production sectors have different names (corporations vs bureaus). Both are oligarchical in nature. Both act the same way, and both inevitably meet the same end--economic collapse.
"America is a fascist oligarchy of wealthy people who are directed by the Crown, that's the truth."
The only problem with this theory is the lack of evidence, frankly, if you're going to go into a NWO type conspiracy, especially relative to the tremendously disproportionate wealth and influence of Jews/Zionists not just in the US and UK, but as discussed here, in Russia. Ditto Ukraine and France and Argentina and many other places.
So, and I'm playing devil's advocate here, MA, please take in the spirit offered. your theory sort of looks, ifone had to pick a theory, not well supported, and looks like a cover for the Jewish/Zionist power on display in washington and many other places.
I mean the Templars, really?
By the way there's no question that the Brits had and have a lot of money power and influence. Vatican has lots of money.
But the idea that the British Crown secretly runs things, given the history of the reduction of power of the crown, and the growth of power of oligarchs, bankers, and governments/militaries which do not take orders from the crown...
No, your theory looks like a very poor one relying on wild, unsuppported theories and arguments 4 centuries old.
Yet all around, we can see the power of Israel's lobbies, and the very disproportionate power of Zionists across many nations.
So why, I am asking, do I reject the ZWO theory for your Crown/Templar theory that sounds like it was concocted by Zionist Karen Hude to take eyes off Zionists?
Again, I'm *asking*.
I only get 25 yuan, those bastids
Hey Bozo -what kind of doctor are you? Got your Ph'd at Clown University?
One potatoe.
Dubai, Being driven back within your borders, afraid to have finances in international accounts, unable to hold foreign assets for fear of them being confiscated, having your corporate heads fearful of leaving the country due to fear of arrest (on phoney charges) is not a sign of strength.
Autarchy, asshole! The sincerest form of INDEPENDENCE!
resistance is strength
stumpy,
Are you just totally retarded or semi retarded? I do empathize with people who are retarded because it's not their fault but something to do with genes and undeveloped parts in their body typically under their skull.
Americans are the ones paying the price in Cuba or Iran or Pakistan and unable to venture out or open bank accounts. Russians and all others are welcomed. If you are an American, have you ever tried visiting Afghanistan, Pakistan or Iraq or Syria and observe yourself how much love and affection people of those countries have towards Americans? I strongly suggest you do give it a try!
As if tensions with Russia needed to be pushed higher. Lots of jobs being lost by sanctions insisted on the Nobel Prize Winner. It is a full spectrum war against Putin for supporting Assad and Snowden among other reasons.
This may lead to a military war sooner than we think.
Anti-Russian sanctions hurt Europe harder than expected, threaten 2.5mn jobs – studyhttp://rt.com/news/268336-russian-sanctions-hurt-europe/
stupid is as stupid does
The New World Order of Global WarfareThe United States and its allies have launched a military adventure which threatens the future of humanity. U.S. and NATO forces have been deployed in Eastern Europe including Ukraine. U.S. military intervention under a humanitarian mandate is proceeding in sub-Saharan Africa. The U.S. and its allies are threatening China under President Obama’s “Pivot to Asia”.
In turn, military maneuvers are being conducted at Russia’s doorstep which could potentially lead to escalation.
The U.S. airstrikes initiated in September 2014 directed against Iraq and Syria under the pretext of going after the Islamic State are part of a scenario of military escalation extending from North Africa and the Eastern Mediterranean to Central and South Asia
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-new-world-order-of-global-warfare/54536...
Or....
stupid is as stupid votes
Retaliation for signing a pipeline deal with greece?!
Compare pootie high-minded words with the pootie low-brow realities BW.
http://eng.globalaffairs.ru/number/What-is-Written-Cannot-Be-Undone-17407
Russia is not the West's problem to deal with, pootie is Russia's problem to deal with, to a far greater extent. Frankly, the guy has become quite unhinged and is doing Russia far more damage than anyone else.
(btw, the pipeline deal is ultimately irrelevant, the EU can just say, "No thanks", and refuse to allow gas to transit through it, and a great chunk of Russian production is shut out of the world's biggest economic block.)
Quit vomitting such stupid propaganda trash, retard! Nobody is that stupid to buy those lies and propaganda you are selling, scum! Putin stopped Western plundering of Russia, and Russians must be eternally grateful for that! You won't find anyone here to deceive with such stupid story, you stupid piece of shit!
hahaha ... I like an eloquent fact-based retort! :D
btw, that link I posted is written by a RUSSIAN journalist.
LOL :D
What "facts" based you stupid Western propagandist troll! The facts are that Putin made Russia what it is today. Before Putin Russia was Western vassal, whereas now it is a sovereign superpower. Those are the facts, you dumb, laughable Western propagandist!
Oh no, you've got it all wrong, pootie turned Russia into a SUPA-DOOPER-SOUPER-POWER7777!!!
So there! :-p
You are smiling like a whore. Does it hurt you? ehehehe
But I know what will help you. Find some round object and insert it into your ass. You might even have a favourite one already. It will help you.
Any article even remotely related to Putin or Russia on this site brings out all the reality-denying, warmongering, propaganda trolls who know next to nothing and seem to have little to no concept of right or wrong, or history, or much of anything other than PUTIN = BAAAAAAAAD. Like they live there. Where they should give a fuck is their own countries (where they are impotent to do anything to the people who rule THEM), their leaders are pushing for conflict, and no one cares what they have to say about it.
oh my goodness, the world seems a very scarey place where you are, will you be OK?
Hahah a washington based think tank outlet reporting on russia . A russian journalist or a paid propagandist ? If you really care about gathering genuine stuff on russia you'll look for their source not a third party ( in this case an enemy paid disinfo outlet) where they are paying so called " experts" to write distorted facts and make people fall for it . 750 million is a huge amount to waste .
Meanwhile genuine US reporters are resorting to Alternative Media and they are being termed as ' cosnpiracy theorists ' . lol .
America Has a Simple Ideology and Understands Nothingdecline-international-studies
If you're so worried about her smearing her as a source of detailed analytical commentary and fact, you could just try to point out any part of what she wrote and discussed about pooty's words an actions that were factually incorrect, or in some way inaccurate.
Should be a piece of cake, if it is what you claim it to be.
What's a pooty? A pet name for your asshole?
If you are referring to Putin, maybe you should say so. Will make you sound like a big boy. Reasonable, impartial, with no axe to grind against a man you never met, who is doing good things for his country, where you probably do not live.
pooty is troll baby talk..normal habit is think itself clever
Don't waste your time arguing with blockheads. Argue when a. You might learn something or b. When the other party might. Otherwise don't bother. element starayan shoveller is a drag , don't heed his posts . I'm sure his balls must be itching by now to retort over my comment . He must be getting all cozy in his basement this fall .
You're on the right track, a pooty is indeed a type of arsehole, and you're right, it's not the sort of thing I wish to meet. Though arseholes do also provide fertilizer, so even a complete and utter arsehole could in fact unwittingly do considerable 'good', from time to time, via simply being an arsehole. :D
joke on you, goat...see max steele post
firstly you need shutup, learn some discernement of who enable source before you blah blah
your votes show you propaganda loser...
The only problem with that is the EU relys on Russia for 38% of its oil and gas needs. If they say no, they could suffer serious brown outs or worse much to the chagrin of their people. Russia recently cut a deal with China so even if Russia couldn't sell to the EU, China will make up for a lot of that. Just as with the original EU sanctions against Russia, it is the EU people who suffer the most, not the idiots in Brussels, and certainly not the USA.
Putin quietly moves another chess piece across the board, looks up, and says "Check."
Unfortunately there is no board upon which a game is being played.
Only killing fields lie ahead unless a new international understanding is formulated in respect of peace and debt.
it is the war of financial oligarchs vs independent states
Yes, this time on a global scale...
long Prussian Blue
Mommie mommie... that mans trying to steal my borsht.
LMFAO. Have at it. Russians. LMFAO........
Find some dick to suck, Jew. It will do you some good. Might come you down a bit. ehehehe
Fuck these Brussel sprouts. Russia should retaliate in kind to make them get a taste of their own medicine.
The self-hatred is strong in this one. SMFH..... rooting for the commies out of spite over your hatred of the US gubmint? Or you just tired of being Anglo-Saxon?
Wow, this post could have come right out of the 50's or 60's.
nice work! More evidence of human devolution...
Yes cause after all the US government has our back and best interest...You must be the slow one in the family.
NDAA nuff said don't kid yourself there fool your on your own, and when you dial 911 don't count on anyone showing up.
Russians are not commies. What decade do you live in? The USA is more socialist than Russia.
Outside the Russian cities that is absolutely true.
Inside them...no. Just different. Just a different set of apparatchiks to satisfy, different gangsters to pay off, different phone-book-sized reams of regulations to comply with.
I'm tired of the hypocrisy and the constant willingness of the US gubbermint to dish out bullshit with reckless abandon yet being so unable to accept it when thrown back.
Are you rooting for the Fascist thugs who control the US Government with this shallow facade of democracy that anyone with a brain can figure out is a farce? We live in a kleptocracy run by vicious anti-American oligarchs -just like Russia was before Putin came in. And a s far as being anti-Anglo -the Fascists who run this country are doing their best to destroy the anglo character of America with uncontrolled third world immigration, as they have been doing since they planned it all in the Ivy League schools in the 30's. The Frankfurt School, set up by Jewish Bolshevik intellectuals run out of Europe in the 20's has effectively destroyed the long term viability of America by a three front assult on the traditional family unit, Christianity and the homogeneous character of our once European American country. Now we get the transgender push.
Um ... you realise the pootie squad is ZERO different ... right?
The proper qiestion is why is ANY ONE rooting for ANY ONE, here?
Until you can point out how pootie and Co., are any better than the neo-PAX-AXIS, or that the pooties are some hithertofore unknown type of new-age saints on white chargers, I think you're all UTTER FOOLS for lining up behind ANY ONE of these people or groups or countries.
Everyone of you partisan dimwits.
Did you suddenly wake up this morning and come to the rather grim realization that the propaganda you've been sprouting endlessly is doing the same thing to your health as spending a month eating only McDonald's food?
Sure I root for Putin, because I live in a nation of idiots that re-elect the same pieces of trash for decades, and were also stupid enough to elect the lawn jockey Obama to the Presidency twice.
So in order to remedy your withered smelly leg, you took out a shotgun and blew your leg right off, because pootie said he'd be your friend?
Grow up fool, pootie is a pure arsehole, do you seriously think he's a new friend to you just because your govt totally sucks ass and is run by an idiot?
BZZZZT!
:D
Name one Senator who is not selling out the Americoon people besides Jeff Sessions?
There are maybe 10 Congressmen/House members worth a shit but the rest of Sell out scum who love Obola and Soros along with the pentagon, Z-See Eye Aye, Z-State Department, Z En Ess Aye, and the rest of the scum. America is run by criminal scum and the morons watch Z-TV and Zollywood run by the z-oligarchs.
And pootie and friends are so different, right?
Hey Dickhead, Putin is not the one who has gone out of his way to start all this crap. THAT is why he has the moral high ground. Do you really think he woke up one day and said, "You know, I'm going to invade Ukraine today?". Give me a break dipshit....
Um, yes, yes he did exactly that, actually. LOL :D
Spare me your "what about-ery"
Lemonhead has shown maximum restraint considering how NATO, EU and Peace Prize are trying to reign him in, crash his economy, destablize his borders, Internationalize Russia's natural resources and enact "regime change".
Imagine our response if Putin was sending missles and tanks into Mexico, crashing our stock markets and supporting Mexican drug cartels to destablize American society like Peace Prize, Nuland and Kerry have done to him in Ukraine. The mother of Rus.
He deserves his own Peace Prize for showing maximal restraint
You're conveniently ignoring the 800lb gorilla in the room -- how does one cage an ornery Uncle Sam? If "we" have to stand up demand change at some point it will be easier (for several reasons) if another 800lb gorilla has already softened him up. Moreover, despite the ravings of the armchair generals and keyboard commandos on the possibility of victory through symmetric engagement with Ar15's- you win insurgent wars (revolutions) with alliances, often unsavory alliances with larger powers that are deemed treasonous by the establishment... from the French in the American revolution, to the competition for various European powers in the War of Northern Aggression, to the Chinese and Russians in Korea and Vietnam.
Unless you seem some other non-revolutionary path to substantial reform of the USSA... but even economic collapse requires catalysts, and given that "they" have a printing press, the chances of you (even with all your neighbors) demonstrating the butterfly effect with your life savings is effectively zero.
here's a different spin on an answer to your question.
If we assume that most of us who comment (Most, not all. Maybe not even 50%) But the American commenters are conditioned to a Manichean outcome in our "contests"
Giants vs. Cowboys
Coke vs. Pepsi
Demorats vs. Republitards
Putin vs. Peace Prize
Same reason we don't do Third Parties. American simpletons need a clear cut winner and loser because of our sports addiction.
So my "team" is Putin. I will support Lesser of Two Evils internationally in what I reject locally (fuck the Democrats and their LOTE capitulation)
The Government is in charge of nothing.
Those in charge write the bills, and get them voted in without any elected or appointed official even reading them.
Believing that the US Government is in charge of what goes on in Europe, while OBVIOUSLY not in charge of what goes on in the US... IS N-U-T-S.
Which commies? Theirs or ours?
Not tired of u.f.s.a government,,, just the fascist assholes making it and the now vanished republic a joke. Not tired of being Caucasian, just tired of being blamed for someone's failure due to their laziness, lack of initiative and quest for a life of freebies all paid for by someone else. Anglo Saxon period has long passed. Your lack of historical knowledge gives you away as just another racist baiter with nothing intelligent to offer.
And when did Jews become "Anglo-Saxons," hm, Jew? Is that mimicing tactic you are applying here trying to win some sympathies and support from those stupid Anglos (there never was any Saxons there, or rather very, very little; and certainly not worth mentioning). Be so kind, Jew, to explain those moronic Anglos how you Jews love to pretend, feign and deceive. Use the example of the current Murican Secretary of Treasurys "Jack" Lew, would you. His real name is Jacob, is it not? Why don't you explain public the reasons why Jacob sells himself as Jack, hm? I suspect they might be interested to hear them. ehehehe
Commies he said!! LOL
Have you been sleeping since the Cuban missile crisis or something and just woke up now?
You oughta get up to speed before you start talking and looking like some senile, out of touch old fart....oh wait...too late.
bored
Wake me when the shut off the gas flows to Europe!!!!
Please people, global oligarchs leads to global tyranny...
Global money printing leads to global Weimar...
"Wake me when the shut off the gas flows to Europe!!!!"
My thoughts too. Can't understand what Austria is up to, it must have a masochistic streak. Perhaps it's their craving to be obedient.
Nah, reject their fiat and make them pay on Gold.
It would expose their nakedness, and make their own banks and leaders look bad: "Look, we're happy to sell it to you. We just want to be paid In Kind, and not in your Weimar Euros".
The Rottchilds would shit.
"We just want to be paid In Kind"
(...in weed? Wow....go Europe!)