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Angry Russia Will "Respond In Kind" To Europe's Asset Seizures
On Thursday, nearly 50 Belgian companies were told to disclose their Russian state assets, setting the stage for the seizure of Russian property in connection with the disputed $50 billion Yukos verdict.
In short, Russia was required to submit a plan for a €1.6 billion payment by June 15 pursuant to the 2014 arbitration court decision which found in favor of Yukos shareholders who the ECHR ruled were treated unfairly when Moscow seized the company amid allegations of fraud and other crimes. Russia appealed the ruling and lost.
Because Russia does not look set to comply, Belgium is effectively moving to enforce the ruling itself. Austria and France also moved to freeze Russian assets on Thursday.
It now appears the timing of the asset freezes was designed to stir controversy in St. Petersburg where Russia is hosting an annual business forum (described by some as a “Russian Davos) and where Greece is executing the first stages of the dreaded 'Russian pivot.'
Now, Russia looks set to retaliate, threatening to freeze Belgian, Austrian, and French assets until such a time as the countries’ “illegal” actions are reversed. RT has more:
Moscow will take reciprocal action in response to the seizure of its foreign assets, Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has warned.
“Our response would be in kind. This is inevitable. This is the only way of acting in international affairs,” he told RBK-TV in an intervew.
Lavrov was commenting on the seizure in Belgium and France of Russian state-owned assets. The arrest were made on request of beneficiaries of the now-defunct oil giant Yukos, who were awarded damages from Russia by an arbitration court in The Hague. Russia is in the process of challenging the ruling.
The minister added that his priority in this situation now is to unfreeze the accounts of the Russian Embassy in Belgium.
The freezing of diplomats' accounts “absolutely goes against the Vienna accords on foreign relations that guarantee the immunity of diplomatic assets, real estate and corresponding things. Belgian foreign ministry officials are indicating to us that they were not aware of it,” Lavrov said. “We don't accept these explanations.”
And here’s FT with the opposing viewpoint...
Tim Osborne, director of GML, the former Yukos holding company, told the Financial Times he was aware of the French and Belgian moves but could not confirm exactly what had been frozen.
The assets had been “attached” to GML’s claim to get the Yukos ruling enforced, to ensure they could not be moved abroad before legal hearings expected within the next year.
“We still have to convince a legal court [in these countries] that our arbitration award should be recognised as the equivalent of a judgment in their court, so they can enforce it,” he said.
“We remain confident that we will win, and that we will collect if not all, then a substantial part, of the award — but it will take time.”
Mr Osborne said GML had started similar steps to get the UK and US to recognise the arbitration panel award but other countries had different asset seizure rules.
Andrei Belousov, an economic aide to Vladimir Putin, Russian president, told the St Petersburg forum that the country planned to appeal against the award. “We are concerned. We expect a number of countries to take similar measures,” he said.
...and here's a bit more from Bloomberg (note the bit about holding Russian reserves outside of US and EU assets):
Russia is bracing for more foreign asset seizures in a clash over the defunct Yukos Oil Co. after France and Belgium began enforcing a $50 billion damages award.
The Permanent Court of Arbitration in The Hague ruled last July that Russia is liable to pay almost half of the $103 billion plus interest sought by GML Ltd., a holding company belonging to four former owners who don’t include Khodorkovsky.
Russia’s appeal of the decision may be heard in November, Finance Minister Anton Siluanov told reporters, while Ulyukayev ruled out paying the damages. Lawyers and government agencies are studying the Belgian ruling, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters.
While the asset freezes are unlikely to affect the Bank of Russia’s international reserves, keeping the cash pile outside of U.S. or EU assets is under consideration, Siluanov said. “No such decision has been taken so far, we believe that we can keep the existing structure for now,” he said.
The Yukos plaintiffs are targeting Russian government assets in France and Belgium that aren’t protected by diplomatic immunity in a process that could take years to resolve, GML Director Tim Osborne said by phone from London.
“We are not in this for a Pyrrhic victory,” he said. “We haven’t ruled out other jurisdictions, but they will be more difficult” because of local laws on asset seizure.
Given the timing (see above) and given the situation in Ukraine and Moscow's rapidly deteriorating 'relationship' (if you can call it that) with Washington and NATO, one cannot help but wonder if Europe is set to use the Yukos case as yet another tool for applying political pressure to the Kremlin. After all, the stage is already set for stepped up economic sanctions and the EU has filed anti-trust charges against Gazprom (even as the energy giant inked an MOU in St. Petersburg on Thursday to double the capacity of what is effectively a Ukraine bypass line). Needless to say, if GML is successful at convincing the US and/or the UK to enforce the ECHR ruling via similar confiscations, things could get very interesting, very quickly.
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Amen.
Until that happens, Putin is their butt boy. "Our friends and partners". Get real
I love Putin but he's been way too accomodating in the face of the soft war against him.
And every day Russo-Ukrainians die from terror bombing and extra judicial killings.
My sympathies don't lie with Putin but with the victims of Icky Vicky, the Cookie Monster, Lurch Kerry and Peace Prize. Father of ISIS. Uncle of the Neo Nazis in Ukraine
ZH comment section has become the exclusive domain of commie trolls, the KKK and Putin fanboys.
Pathetic.
ZH remains the best source for reliable information on divergence trades in my opinion. Many "contrarian indicators" in the comments section to be sure, depends on your thinking, i.e. long term or short term...
Because we don't buy the official bullshit narrative we are commie trolls, the KKK and Putin fanboys?
Go finish your kool aide and turn on CNN or Fox News. After all they provide the narrative that suits you.
Says the dude with the pointy Spock like ears....
Yes here you are. Fighting the good fight, eh?
not really. We only know the difference between right and wroing, good and evil.
"...commie trolls..."
Paging Dr. Bonzo, paging Dr. Bonzo, the 1950's called and they want their propagandist bullshit back.
Ok, so which one are you Dr. Bonzo? You idiotic statement leads me to believe you are a KKK member posting from his Mom's barn in rural Alabama. I hope my comment doesn't mess up your rythm. I wouldn't want your Mom to get mad.
OK. So you're an Obola fanboy...and don't like him and his ilk being exposed for the evil, lying, Marxist/fascists they are.
I see you are not being paid sufficiently by state employees at D.C. But everything is awesome about usa economy then why so .
So...
You're saying that either eveyrone is with you...
...or against you?
Where have I heard that before?
No Im not saying that genius . Cant you comprehend it ?
" where have i heard... " just look few comments up your fellow dr.obonzo said that . Got it john ? " everyone against you is a troll " - a typical muritard thinking .
Fuck Soros and the rest of Jewelry. Hell to pay if the world doesn't break free of their stranglehold soon.
It is the same within Russia. The jewish elite in Russia can now force Putin to grant them full pardons. Now they do not even get prosecuted and if they do Putin gets publicly slapped in international court. Because they can.
One does not simply pivot to Russia. Maybe the Germans will invade again?
Obongo and the EU and still playing bingo with the chess master.
LWB (You don't mind me callin' you that?) You're giving them FAR too much credit, you have to be able to recognise numbers on a printed page to play Bingo.
Adolph Merkel might give the orders, but the German (not NATO) commanders will pull a coup and she will be swinging at the end of a rope before the German Military engages in another tank invasion of Russia.
I read an article that said as much but surprise I can't find it on a Google search any longer. So you will have to trust me.
Yukos were all jews who stole state assets for a song during a time of transition of the USSR. USA is happy to have all assets controlled by zionists.
Good for Russia. do not let them steal from the people. Take all from Western banks, demand hard cash to exchange for gold.
It's worth noting again for those that may be unaware:
LONDON (Agence France-Presse) — Control of Mikhail Khodorkovsky’s shares in the Russian oil giant Yukos have passed to renowned banker Jacob Rothschild, under a deal they concluded prior to Mr. Khodorkovsky’s arrest, the Sunday Times reported.
Voting rights to the shares passed to Mr. Rothschild, 67, under a “previously unknown arrangement” designed to take effect in the event that Mr. Khodorkovsky could no longer “act as a beneficiary” of the shares, it said.
Mr. Khodorkovsky, 40, whom Russian authorities arrested at gunpoint and jailed pending further investigation last week, was said by the Sunday Times to have made the arrangement with Mr. Rothschild when he realized he was facing arrest.
Mr. Rothschild now controls the voting rights on a stake in Yukos worth almost $13.5 billion, the newspaper said in a dispatch from Moscow.
Mr. Khodorkovsky owns 4 percent of Yukos directly and 22 percent through a trust of which he is the sole beneficiary, according to Russian analysts.
From the figures reported in the Sunday Times, it appeared Mr. Rothschild had received control of all Mr. Khodorkovsky’s shares.
The two have known each other for years “through their mutual love of the arts” and their positions as directors of the Open Russia Foundation, Yukos’ philanthropic branch, it said.
Russian authorities Thursday froze billions of dollars of shares held by Mr. Khodorkovsky and his top lieutenants in Yukos — throwing control of the country’s largest oil company into limbo and causing frenzied selling on financial markets.
Russian prosecutors said owners of the shares are still entitled to dividends and retain voting rights, but can no longer sell their stakes.
They said the freeze was necessary as collateral for the $1 billion that Mr. Khodorkovsky and his associates are accused of misappropriating during the 1990s.
Mr. Rothschild is the British head of Europe’s wealthy and influential Rothschild family, and runs his own investment empire.
Oligarch!
Unfortunately, the fall of Communism saw Russia's most prized assets under Yeltsin sold off to a small circle of vultures later known as oligarchs – for a smidgeon of their value. The same is happening in the United States, a process enabled by largely Jewish ownership of and open access to the currency - the Fed and the U.S. Treasury. It is legalized plunder.
In the article Jewish Dominance in the Capitalist Takeover of Russia (2002) various excerpts regard Mikhail Khodorkovsky):
EXCERPTS:
Fortune magazine ran an article in 1997 entitled "Russia's Robber Barons," profiling ten of the most important Russian business tycoons who catapulted to economic dominance in Russia with the collapse of communism; these included Gusinsky, Berezovsky, Boris Hait, Mikhail Friedman, Vladimir Vinogradov, Vladimir Potanin, Mikhail Khodorkovsky, Alexander Smolensky, and Pyotr Aven.
Along with Gusinsky and Berezovsky, not only are Hait and Friedman Jewish, they are, as noted earlier, vice-presidents under Gusinsky in the Russian Jewish Congress. Khodorovsky, the President of Bank Menatep (and, curiously, the former Deputy Secretary of the Moscow Branch of the Communist Party youth branch) is also Jewish. (Khodorovsky's ability to make ideological U-turns on a dime somewhat echoes the latent wheeling and dealing of Leonid Roitman, whose "meteoric rise to power was fueled by the chaos of post-pestroika Russia." In his earlier years, under the communist regime, says the Jerusalem Post, Roitman set up "an organization called Hatehiya, which taught summer camps for Jewish youth. In a brilliant move, he registered Hatehiya as part of Komosol, the Communist Youth movement, and it rapidly became 'one of the largest and strongest organizations in Russia.'" [HECHT, p. 12]…
The above ten Russians, notes the Fortune piece, "dominate the country's trade in arms and precious metals, as well as its production of copper, nickel, and a quarter of its oil. They control the No. 1 and No. 3 television networks, the Visa bankcard network, a big chunk of the pulp and paper industry, and an increasing portion of the food processing industry ... Princeton professor Stephen Cohen, writing in the Nation, dubbed [most of today's Russian business elite] a 'semi-criminalized oligarchy' that has made ordinary Russians 'suffer unduly and unjustly.'" [MELLOW, p. 120] Berezovsky has publicly bragged that he, Gusinsky, Khodorovsky, Aren, Friedman, Smolensky, and Potanin control half of Russia's wealth. [BERSTEIN, p. 12]...
[A]nother Jewish Russian money mogul is Roman Abramovich. The Warsaw Voice (headed by Jewish publisher and editor Andrzej Jonas) noted in 1999 that he is "the CEO of the powerful Sibneft oil group. A popular joke in Moscow says that one must count one's fingers after shaking hands with Abramovich, who has for years been associated with Berezovsky's financial group." [ZYGULSKI, p. 8] Oil magnate Leonid Nevzlin became head of the Russian Jewish Congress in 2001. He and the aforementioned Mihail Khodorkowvsky "formed one of the first successful private banks in Russia in 1989. The two then went into the oil business together, and now run the YUKOS firm -- Khodorkovsky is in charge, and Nevzlin is his deputy." [GORODETSKY, L., 5-23-01] …
In [1998], a Jewish Russian immigrant in New York of considerable renown, novelist Edward Topol (whose work was once banned in Russia), stirred controversy and deep concern in the world Jewish community because of a published letter he wrote to a Russian weekly newspaper. In it Topol called prominent Jewish Russian bankers "puppeteers" who manipulated Russian politics and its economy. The puppeteers, he concluded, has "a very long Jewish last name -- Berezovsko-Goussinsko-Smolensko-Khodrokovsko, etc. ... How come all or almost all the money in this country ended up in Jewish hands?" Topol also called the economic crisis in Russia today a "Jewish tragedy." "Mr. Topol's main premise," noted the (Jewish) Forward, "is that for the first time in a millennium, Jews have gained real political power and financial control over Russia and can pretty much decide whether to 'cast the country into a chaos of wars and poverty or raise it from the mud.'" [KRICHEVSKY, Emigre's, p. 5; KAZAKINA, p. 5]
http://www.radioislam.org/thetruth/capitalists.htm
The Top Ten Russian Oligarchs listed by Forbes in July 2004:
http://www.forbes.com/2004/07/21/cz_pkl_0721russianintro.html
As for Mikhail Khodorkovsky, author Sharon Tennison has revealed that Jewish oligarch Khodorkovsky (Jewish) “became highly political, didn’t pay taxes, and prior to being apprehended and jailed was in the process of selling a major portion of Russia’s largest private oil company, Yukos Oil, to Exxon Mobil. Unfortunately, to U.S. media and governing structures, Khodorkovsky became a martyr.” (Sharon Tennison, president and founder of the Center for Citizen Initiatives, in an article on Global Research)
I am not suprised.
However what exactly is meant by "In Kind" is likely going to be a point of view.
Russia might be suprised to discover that the US doesn't direct European policy, but is actually more of a security contractor, enjoying currency reserve status at the discretion of international bankers mostly based in Europe as pay for the expensive procurement.
The NATO 'direction' from the US only exists within the military structures...what they call the 'tactical' level of policy... You know, what bullet will be used, how will we know each other's locations, how do we integrate staff structures enough to work with one another...basically middle-management type of questions.
Kinda hard to win when you don't clearly identify the opposition.
Pretty hard to be surprised when you're sleeping.
If you think that 'O' and your local Congress critter are the ones in charge, then you would know more about sleeping than I.
Putin is well awre of the 'opposition', but they are powerless if their tools become encumbered. Check out the price jump of ferrotitanium since last year.
Russia is a just a Lada clown Car with imminent implosion under its own impotent weight.
That already happened in the 90's dude, try and keep up.
You are right, to be sure. Russia big and strong. No worries no hurries.
Surprisingly in far better shape.
Guess what I'm looking at today... An overwhelming number of obsolete electronic components going into the America's defensive systems... You really don't have a clue, do you?
American shit is also built by unionized Trayvons in most defense factories. How is that F-35 working out?
i didn't realize foxxcon was unionized......
it's actually embarrassing. People come on here and brazenly let everyone know they think it's still 1989-1999.
Hey Jew, why did Gyorgy Schwartz become George Soros, hm? ehehehe
Lada vs overweight...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKsfhXMwRVM
better worry about your own country
Lada's will still be easy to fix after massive EMP exposure, but not your car.
I'd have thought there was more Western investment and assets in Russia than the reverse. If so, this seems like another case of the West shooting itself in the foot. After the round of confiscations, Russia will be net better off.
Brilliant!
EU hit those Cyprus bank accounts ... and ... nada.
This is showing the level of debt crisis in which the US and EU countries are drawning in. Whenever the economies are in deep trouble, always deflect the people attention to external economic or geopolitical problems. If they do not already exist just manufacture them. Even Greece has become a big distraction and will be probably used as an exuse for the coming world stock markets collapse.
Respond?
Show me. Or shut up.
Does anyone know the background of the five large former Yukos shareholders who stand to benefit from this mammoth award? Are they Mafia or Rothschild connected? The judge in the Hague ruling better be rich enough to keep an army of body guards.
In practice, how do the banks transfer $50 billion in sovereign Russian assets to five individuals? Check, money order, cash, stawks. land/property titles?
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You probably do not want that Russian Bride right now....
OT, anybody else have the logging ers jacking up a post?
Welcome to the club, BDM.
We all have CeyeA handlers in a manner of speaking.
Some of us lucky blokes have a personal pet CeyeA (or pick an ABC Dept of Asswipe Agency) handler spook and general annoyance.
I consider it a sign of ‘I must be on the right track’ in my thunkin’.
And yes, they love to keep me from reading or posting on ZH.
What does that tell ya?
~ DC
These arbitrators are using a government's power to enforce. Russia's acts were internal sovereign acts, outside of foreign legal control. This is a government against government power play.
I'll try it one last time. Hey,, what do you . Quit key stroke logging. Just ask I'll send you the post first you spook muthafucka!!!! It's working!! I'm not a big Put in fan but, this piling on shit by every country is getting old.
The world is truly inhabited by morons and run by fools.
Can't wait for Russia to do this and those countries whining about how it isn't fair or called for. Gotta love bullies who bitch and moan when their victims retaliate in kind.
Save Soviet Jewelry!
(bumper sticker from the '70s)
6,000,000 karats?
Why do we keep trying to provoke a war with Russia? Putin is probably evil, but do are the Saudis, and we don't do this shit to the Saudis.
The guys at Lockheed Martin are probably laughing their asses off right now.
The guys at Lockheed Martin are more worried about their obsolete component supply chains...
The guys at Lockheed Martin will be getting a whole lot of new components, directly.
Still clueless, like the other poster... but keep trying, the stopped watch is correct twice a day.
It would have been better if you'd said nothing, if that's all you could muster. LOL :D
Why is Putin probably evil? Because the official narrative played over and over again on our MSM wants us to think so? Is he probably evil because he is a good leader? Because he truly loves his country and his people? Or maybe because he is a Christian and has a backbone (something our spineless leaders lack) and he stands firm on Judeo Christian principals?
Or is he evil because he doesn't let another country dictate foreign policy goals to him and make his country aquiesce to these foreign objectives?
Putin has balls and has a backbone unlike the spineless weasals that currently run our government.
I campaigned for Ronald Reagan. He had balls and took shit from no one. Putin is Russia's version of Reagan.
Because of the official narrative in the West Putin is considered "evil".
Not in my book!!!
It would be nice if at least some of his high-minded state policies, doctrine and words were consistent with his actions.
http://eng.globalaffairs.ru/number/What-is-Written-Cannot-Be-Undone-17407
Unfortunately they have proven to be 100% the opposite, in practice.
What amazes me the most is our (US) involvement in the violent undemocratic overthrow of a soverign nation. Then our placing the blame for the consequences of this action upon Russia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&x-yt-ts=1422503916...
America is controlled by Zionist Jews. Jews are Masters of playing the victim and pinning the blame on people they rape and pillage. Happens everyday in Palestine and blessed by the Useless Snakes of Americunts.
correction: Eastern Orthodox Christianity
so called judeo christianity is something else...
Too late to edit original text. So here we are!!!
Or maybe because he is a Christian and has a backbone (something our spineless leaders lack) and he stands firm on Eastern Orthodox Christian principals?
The true axis of evil is USA/UK/Israel
Would you not agree the Netherlands is pretty closely aligned with the above ?
Unfortunately , yes, We have a govt of fucking cowards who even after having Kiev shoot down MH17 and killing 200 of our citizens, stilll they kiss the ass of the USA who gave us our gold back to keep our mouths shut.
That's because the Dutch resisted the Nazis and aided the Jews in WW2, and (more importantly), because they have Royalty (Queen Beatrix), who is chummy with the House of Windsor and other European Royals -- ruling and deposed.
Consistent with going back to Feudalism... Feudalism 2.0
Putin is not evil. Putin loves his country and his people. You are probably pulling some parallels with your leaders in the West, which are evil: they hate you and work for banksters cabal from City of London, Washington DC and Vatican (3 sister city-states) to turn your countries into neofeudal plantations and your people into slaves! Putin fights them! You should be thanking Putin, for he just might save your from the fate those turncoats and sellouts of your Westerno leaders have made for you.
Well said!!!
currency wras lead to trade wars and capital controls lead to real wars lead to WW3
Thus the rush for TPP and TTIP. Plus I hear TPP has a last minute rider to include Africa in the trade deals. Not sure if they can get TTIP through, but TPP is a go. Asia, EU and now Africa. Meant to keep China, Russia and the BRICS out of markets.
Isn't that the plot of those shitty Star Wars movies? Something that banal is going to play out into hot war here when these deals get done.
very stupid and grave situation being created by the eu, very dangerous
And all the crap is going tocome back as secondary offerings someday.
It would seem that the west is hell bent on starting a war with Russia.
The west is unfortunately first and foremost at war with its own people. Russia is just anatural progression of that war.
I am waiting to see if the USA is stupid enough to confiscate Russia's holdings of US government bonds or to at least force others not to accept them in payment for goods and services to avoid being blacklisted by the US and cut of from SWIFT etc.
This is fast developing into a petty brawl with some really dangerous potentialities.
Medvedev or the Financial minister is already on record as saying: If Russia is cut out of SWIFT. The ambassadors of the Western Nations should return home. It's the prelude to war
The west coast of the US around the St Andreas Fault seems very vulnerable to me in the event that the USA decides to lock horns with Russia using nuclear weapons. May sounder minds and judgement prevail.
Replace Putin with open source software.
Are you saying that because the market, investors and the regulators in the USA have been replaced by the Plunge Protection team, HFT etc?
I used to think turning the Middle East into a glass parking lot was a really great idea. These days, I'm thinking Belgium, London, and New York City, and Washington, D.C.
Sterilization and cauterization seem to be the only choices at this point.
Just ask mommy to let you out of the basement more often.
OOH so clever - POW!! He never saw it coming!
With 'gay' marriage, now the health benifits can be extended to include reduced rates and perhaps a one time payment (like $50k) for voulintary non-reversable steralization..
zion never sleeps
jacob rothschild was given control of yukos because of his tireless work for the russian people.
is it not right and legal that london benefit
the russian people have had it easy the last 100 years they have been sucking off the zionist tit for to long.
families like jacobs cannot carry on doing the heavy lifting here.
they simply want what is rightful legal under maritime london pirate law.
putin has upset the empire of the city of london the templar of temple and the ziocon of washington and tel aviv.
compensations starting with yukos then moving onto compensations for the russians not fighting hard enough during ww2 leading to the destruction of 9 million jewish souls.
i am sure jacob and edywne rothshield could work out a payment plan or loan if russia are a little short today.
what what
Only 9 million? Why not double that? If we are going to go for revisionist history, why not more?
If anything, the Germans did not try hard enough.
Auschwitz: NINE MILLION MURDERS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEUY2sAyD1E
Gee, it must be true if it's on YouTube!
Isn't it twelve million?
Six million in WWI
Six million in WWII
And not one Rothschild.
If you add another 6M during the Uke Holodomor, you're up to 18M.
The Uke famine was not genocide. Stalin killed Ukes and Russians in this fake famine. Stalin also killed millions of others. This so-called Holodmor is fiction and total bullshit. Joself Stalin (an ethnic Georgian) was an equal opportunity murderer. He did not single out Uke's for extermination.
famines and killings was also Kazakhstan and Belarus
BTW, the senate has passed a defense bill giving $300 millions in arms to Ukraine, including anti-tank weapons and radars. With let's say 200 million in anti-tank weapons, they can get about 125 launchers and 1000 missiles.
Putin won't like that at all.
No money for Detroit or vets.
Plenty for Israel and the Jewish coup regime in Kiev.
And the beat goes on....
F*ck Detroit. They screwed themselves and are doing it again with their all important stadium they're building with money stolen from the remaining two taxpayers.
Veterans on the other hand wounded and disabled in the many, many useless wars could use a helping hand. It's a shame they were propagandized from birth to think they were actually fighting for the nation verse some fascist lunatics in Washington calling themselves government. But to be abused upon their not so triumphant return by previously mentioned lunatics, the zombies sucking a freebie taxpayer living in these veterans hospitals are adding insult to injury.
Those veterans volunteered to kill innocent people under false pretenses for some money, recognition and because they had/have a great advantage and the odds were greatly in their favor. They were just one of the few unlucky ones, the same cannot be said for the innocent casualities.
Why would I care about Vets who call the innocent people they kill, ''gooks, dinks, ragheads and sand niggers'
As a vet myself I say FUck the vets.
I feel for, sympathize with and support Vets who were drafted, but not Vets who were paid.
A paid army are called Mercenaries, even if they have a single employer.
A soldier who was drafted to defend his country in an attack from another, is a fucking Hero and the flag is honored with his blood.
A soldier who is a paid mercenary (i.e. an economic refugee, naive fool, psycho or zealot), and who goes to foreign lands to fight for the geopolitical and financial interests of his Employer, dishonors the flag and the country. Wrapping themselves and their deluded egos in The Flag, only makes it dirty. So...
Fuck you, Mercs!
That damn warmongering Putin and his thinly veiled world domination agenda:
Russia Wants WAR!
(Sorry Capt'n I'm just brushing off my old hyperlinking skills and seeing what I can pull off here.)
~ DC
All four former owners are Jews. Part of a mostly Jewish cabal that arranged to steal Russian assets as the ussr's ashes smouldered. The net result was widespread suffering of the Russian people.
The Jewishness of the war on Putin and Russia can hardly be overstated.
That's why, if things get to 1M degrees, the 1st 3 places should be 3 sites in zioland.
Cheap price for World Peace. Better to lose some, than to take out an entire gene pool... although it's not even a gene pool but an ideological pool.
Because if these people don't reign in and prosecute & imprison the Zi'Borgs, the unspeakable consequences of a WW3 would be that even non-Zi'Borgs would be hunted down like feral dogs, in my estimation.
And that truly would be tragic, but understandable - because they knew about it, but either did nothing or not enough to stop the sociopathic Zi'Borgs on their midst. Since I believe in redemption, I'd ship the rest to Ellesmere Island (Canada's high Arctic) and let them live there in peace, and appropriate land from hapless polar bears and snow owls. And instead of praying to some vague desert-war deity, they could then ray to some Arctic deity. And they could then replace the Rainbow with the Aurora Borealis as a "custom-made" sign of a new Covenant.
I would imagine the fascist western banksters moved their important chips out of reach,,, something Russia hopefully did after the initial decision and especially after the heavy demonizing of late.
IF Russia is one step ahead it will be fun to watch the fascist pussies with their panties in a wad..... again.
Russia patriot = BAD
American patriot = Good
American mentality is to force their ''values'' (sodomy and cheering homo lifestyle and being debt slaves) on the whole world.
and then Americans wonder why they are increasingly hated.
You have to remember it was Zionists that were Bolsheviks and were in the Kremlin for years during the USSR.
Many escaped to Israel when the wall came down.
Russia is just purging the rest of the Zionist scum out and I don't blame them
Remember also that before Zionism there was no such word as COMMUNISM.
It is really funny to read here how many people detail the degree to which the US Government is NOT IN CHARGE OF THE US...and then charge that THEY ARE IN CHARGE EVERYWHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD.
It is OBVIOUS THAT THEY DO NOT RULE AT HOME.
Unnamed others write the bills, and force their passage, without any elected or appointed official EVEN HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO READ THEM, MUCH LESS DEBATE THEM.
Can you say TPP???????
And then the very *GENIUSES* who cogently point this out go on to claim that the US Government is in charge of every other place in the world...
So... they're NOT IN CHARGE at home?
But... they ARE IN CHARGE overseas?
Vote me down all you like...but that is idiotic.
If the USG are impotent puppets at home, then they are even more impotent far away.
That they are corrupt goes without saying.
But you will never win so long as your crusade is against the impotent puppets without ever identifying who pulls the strings.
the usa .gov is a proxy ALL OVER THE WORLD AND AT HOME for a select chosen few.
feel better?
Yes.
But PRECISELY for whom???
Elitist assholes. Of course. Same as always.
But a nebulous group of Zionists... without names faces or addresses? Comes off as very Hitlerian.
I don't care the color of their skin, but the evil of their character.
And...by the way... no one has done anything to explain in any way why I should have more confidence that Russia/China's governments aren't dominated by the same crowd of asshats that want to kill off the rest of us. Not a word. Not a whisper.
All the evidence indicates THAT THEY ARE INVOLVED.
Excuse me...but that roaring sound is all the money that has been moving to Asia for the last 15 years.
Does anyone honestly think TPTB would put their wealth there without first ensuring their control????????????????
Are they evil, diabolical, elitist controllers of the world or are they pathetic, frightened, investors looking for a safe-haven?? It can't be both because the latter variant explicitly implies they are not in control.
what makes russia and china better is they are doing their evil for the good of their respective countries. the knobs representing the usa are in it to plunder and pillage the golden goose that made them "elite".
So its not the people who plainly had most of Russia's wealth locked up, and the Russians and Chinese are actually secretly in on an NWO plan...
Do you have any evidence for this?
Who's to blame at the top?
Jesuits?
I am curious.
the russians and chinese are for a nwo that shares power, not one run by the unipolar usa. big, big difference. they would rather have gog and magog before they succumb to the usa. they are not into bdsm.
Drop the hammer Lemonhead!
CUT OFF THEIR GAS
I don't want to see Putin win.
I want to see the bad guys lose.
At this point I have no confidence that anyone in power, Putin included, would be in power if they were not amongst the bad guys.
Bad guys = people who want to control the whole world
Good guys= Putin who wants to protect his own country from that happening.
Dutch Boy,
Let me ask you this...
Do you think that TPTB would have let Putin become wealthy under the Yeltsin regime, if he were materially different from all those others who did so at the same time- very many of whom are Putin's personal friends, and well known international gangsters?
Do you think that TPTB - who object now to TINY GREECE AND CYPRUS defaulting on their debts - allowed GIGANTIC RUSSIA TO DEFAULT in 1998, during the highpoint of Western Power and the LOW POINT of Eastern Power...because they had no control or influence there, and could do nothing about it??????
Do you think that TPTB would have EXPLICITLY Given China 'Most Favored Nation' status without having reliable levers they could pull there?
Do you think that TPTB would entrust TRILLIONS of dollars of wealth - INCREASINGLY THE MAJORITY OF IT - to ASIA if they did not have a level of contol there that AT LEAST EQUALED the control they have at those transfers origin points?
I am sorry. But I cannot envision ANY WAY that you could POSSIBLY be thinking straight on this issue.
I cannot see any reason, or any possibility, of regarding the East uncritically here...and given the evidence above (amongst others) there is good reason to be very suspicious.
Read Brezinksi's the Grand Chessboard (or something like that)
WW3 is being planned long ago.
It is not. There is no way of your Western Jewish rulers, or the life on planet as we know it for that matter, to survive. You can browse about "nuclear winter."
Humans survived the nuclear winter in the twenty-first century, before christ.
Some will likely survive the nuclear winter in the twenty-first century, anno domini.
Bad guys = people who want to control the whole world
Good guys= Putin who wants to protect his own country from that happening.
Stupid Guys = those who think they know what another wants, and or the content of his head generally.
Guess what?
People lie.
Truly.
They do.
All the time.
Smart guys = those who know that the ISS is a government asset of the US, Canada, Japan, Russia and the European Partners. And who also know that the ISS has been appraised at $150 billion.
If the ISS gambit doesn't fly, how easy will it be to get a judgement against any country who confiscated Russian assets in the courts of a country possessed of lots of foreign assets of the thieving Western nations?
LIKE CHINA
how's your popcorn?
Transnistria invasion from Moldova/Romania and Ukraine coming soon. I know the date!
July 17 2015
1 year anniversary of the "Russian downing" of MH 17.
Wolrd War III this summer. Bigger than Jew-rassic Park movie!
Russia did not down MH-17 it was Ukrainian jets that downed MH-17. Stop watching the bullshit kool aid they feed you on CNN and Fox News!
Turn your snark detector on Mike. That's why I put "Russian downed" in quotes. Of course it was Chocula on orders from Peace Prize. Got to draw the bear into Ukraine to bleed them white like Iraq and AfPak have done to America
Rootin' for Putin. I refuse his generous offers of compensation thus to maintain my amateur status.
russia will respond in a way that makes the eurotrash and trailer trash running the usa look real stupid. this is the best of morbid black humor.
Thats easy to do. especially the Useless Snakes which looks like a bunch of idiots., Not just their govt but their people.
This site has become a propagandist corporate mouhtpiece of the West ffs! Just read that crap of the text in the article: Lies mixed with propaganda and Western corporate talking points ffs! They even put that Jew who stole Russian public wealth in the 90s, a Rothschild agent who transferred all stolen wealth to Jacob Rothschild just right before he had been arrested to say how he is a "victim" of "bad Putin," and all things which he stole belongs to him, or rather his master the Rothschilds implicitly.
Time for Russia now to start opening legal cases against Western states which are prosecuting companies that are not paying taxes or outright stealing. Hand them out heavly fines, and it they refuse to comply with the rulings of Russian courts, take ownership of everything they have in Russia. Start with France, Austria and Belgium, but expand the practice to UK. Those satanic rulers of the West, the Rothschild scum, still possess some assets in Russia which ought to be stripped from them. That 20% stake in Rosneft should be the first target.
Oops, Russia is "angry". As a patriotic Murican I will show support for "my country" by eating more hamburgers, wearing corn rows or a bowl cut, all while twerking vigorously. Oh, and I will watch the Today Show and network news programs more often...on my iPhone. Now would someone please tell me where I can sign up to vote? I like jury duty.
Russian Jewish oligarchs are still sore that they got caught ripping the place off and had to flee, die, or go to jail. Name one reason why this is a bad thing. So like the historical nudges that they are, they keep complaining and pushing and whining until they get their way. They never give up and Putin should have had the lot of them executed or left them to rot in prison where they belong. Like the world would mourn one more dead arrogant rich jew fuck like Khordokovsky?
I wish someone had the balls in AmeriKa to do this to billionaire thieves who own our country. But nah, why? Not punishing scum of the earth lets them know they can go and do it again.
In his 1919 essay, “The Sociology of Imperialisms,” Joseph Schumpeter wrote of Rome during its years of greatest expansion,
There was no corner of the known world where some interest was not alleged to be in danger or under actual attack. If the interests were not Roman, they were those of Rome’s allies; and if Rome had no allies, then allies would be invented. When it was utterly impossible to contrive such an interest—why, then it was the national honor that had been insulted.
The fight was always invested with an aura of legality. Rome was always being attacked by evil-minded neighbors, always fighting for a breathing-space. The whole world was pervaded by a host of enemies, and it was manifestly Rome’s duty to guard against their indubitably aggressive designs.*
- http://www.softpanorama.org/Skeptics/Political_skeptic/Neocolonialism/gr...
.....and the west has never been civilized since then.
"We have met the enemy and they are us." ~Pogo
Or is that spelled "U.S."?
If you buy into The Saker's Theory.
The fight in Russia is between Atlanticists and Eurasian Sovereigns.
Putin is obviously an Atlanticist forced into Eurasia against his preference.
It's frustrating as hell. But he has a long game strategy and these are shocks meant to provoke an immediate reponse.
Putin will fight them asyemmetrically. Last May he closed the door to Afghanistan from his side of the fence. Now Peace Prize has to send his gear into Afghanistan through Pakistan. Get snipe at every step of the way.
My guess is Volodya (never Vlad I've learned) will close flight lanes over Russia to the Western airlines.
I'll think he's a patsy if he doesn't go full berserker when NATO and their cretins in Ukraine attack Transnistria.
At least responding in kind doesn't suggest a nuclear first strike by Russia (sarcastic)
Russia's Main Chance. The ISS.
The Station is said to be worth $150 billion and is owned through 5 unequal shares: US, Russia, Canada, Japan, and the European Partnership.
At the moment only Russia has access to the ISS, as it is the only share holder with the means to travel up there. Before Elon Musk gets approval to fly human beans from earth to the ISS, the Rusians prolly will have changed the docking proceedure and hardware required for a newly arrived ship to say the magic words "Open Sesame."
Countries which have frozen Russian assets would not be sued for the return of those assets; instead Russia will assume their share in the ISS. Countries which have not taken Russian assets, would be paid for their interest in the ISS at an amount decided by, let's say, a Chinese court.
Russia was to build its own Space Station by 2025. Now it will have one by 2016 without the work. FOR A LOT LESS RUBLES!
(new favorite song)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHeK0Cwr9sg
Putin quietly moves another chess piece across the board, looks up, and says "Check"
Obama looks up too and says
"yes that's right that's not how you play checkers"
Vladimir is so homophobic, he might actually be gay.
This is all going to 'wash' out with tha action against GasProm. the Rothchilds will take control of the pipelines going to Germany and Russia couldn't care less.