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Submitted by Thad Beversdorf via FirstRebuttal.com,

I got into an early discussion today about America.  I came to the conclusion that today’s America* is an ugly fraud.  We wave the flag adorned with stars and stripes, we reminisce about a glorious history, we point to the constitution, the founding fathers and freedom and then we include ourselves as part of this legacy; as though we have some natural right to call ourselves by the same name.  But is that true?  Do Americans* by way of history simply get to partake in the greatness of our past?  Do we get to say we are somehow part of all the great things done by those who came before us?

Today’s America* has nothing in common with the nostalgic images and grand successes of the nation as it were in her glory days.  In fact, I would argue not only does America* lack any authentic representation of times past but is the antithesis of America.  We have come full circle, back to the very thing our ancestors fought, died and ultimately persevered to escape.  We have become a nation of political thieves and liars, and second class citizens whose majority will has no bearing on how their taxes will be spent or to which wars their children will be sent to die in.   And please let me halt your disgust right there, this is not conjecture but hardened fact, so allow me to explain before lazily calling me a traitor or an assh*le.

Tell me which war of the new millennium do you defend?  Can you even name the nations to which we have sent our sons and daughters to fight and die since 9/11?  Explain to me now in which countries Shiite’s are our friends and in which they are our foes.  I’m certain those who have sent their sons and daughters to fight can do so.  But can you?  And then explain to me how, while only 13% of Americans support military action in Ukraine (take your pick of polls), your constitutionally mandated government of representatives, in direct conflict with their sworn duty to represent the will of the majority, have already sent military personnel, weapons and billions of war dollars to Ukraine in an attempt to provoke a war with Russia?  Can you explain how that happens in America; land of the free, governed by and for the will of the people?  It doesn’t, but it does in America*.  And isn’t this just the point?

Not only does there no longer remain a logistic process for us to impose our will (try writing a letter to your congressman – let me know how that goes) but we no longer feel the obligation to even do so.  We vote in districts that are continuously redrawn to ensure certain outcomes and for candidates with a net worth of $50M or higher (Clinton, Bush and others) or are being backed by financially similar Super PACs e.g.  Rubio, Sanders, Cruz, etc, etc….  And these candidates, one of them necessarily to wear their respective crown, will not uphold the constitution but the requests of those that bought and paid for their success.  And that means they must disregard we the unengaged.  Quite a relationship but one that seems to work.

You see it works because the proverbial majority simply do not make it a high enough priority to perform their moral and civic obligation to enforce the constitutional mandates upon our representatives, that is, to govern our nation.  And why?  Well our lives, for each class level, have been tailored by way of government policy and legislation such that we are not willing to rock the boat.  For the lower socio-economic class, work if you want to but there will be a meal, roof and Iphone for you either way.  And for the profiteer class, if you have enough money or represent a large enough donor base your congressman will in fact answer your call, give you a meeting and pass the bill you self-draft resulting in additional unearned profits.  For those few remaining in middle, well you no longer represent a large enough voting block or donor base to really spend any time on.  That said, all campaign platforms are directed at you and that soothes you just enough that, in addition to you and your spouse working a combined 100 hours a week, you simply don’t have it in you to stand up and fulfill your moral and civic obligations.

And that is America*.  A government wholly disinterested in the will of the people and a will of the people wholly disinterested in governing ‘their’ nation.  And this is the basis for my claim that, suggesting we are the same America that we like to reminisce on is an utter fraud.  Out of respect to those great generations that were willing to, not only perform the obligation of governing their nation, but willing to die to ensure the same obligations were available for the next generation, we should place an asterix  beside the use of the term America(n) when referring to ourselves (I would be inclined to exempt military families by definition) in any literature henceforth.  This would be similar to the position of many that argue known steroid users who make it to the hall of fame must have an asterix beside their name.  If we believe it is important enough to distinguish as a context for the history of baseball is not surely important enough to distinguish as a context for the history of our nation?

And now let me walk you to the water in hopes that you will take a drink.  Please allow me to remind you, by way of presentation, of the declared intention by representatives of early Americans to be a free and self governed nation in reaction to a tyrannical government.  I urge you to count the Facts submitted, in evidence of tyranny, that we again find permeating America*.  As a means of easy extra credit (something Americans* are always willing to fight for) attempt to reconcile our American* complacency with the last line of the great document.

 

 

IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. — And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.

New Hampshire:
Josiah Bartlett, William Whipple, Matthew Thornton

Massachusetts:
John Hancock, Samuel Adams, John Adams, Robert Treat Paine, Elbridge Gerry

Rhode Island:
Stephen Hopkins, William Ellery

Connecticut:
Roger Sherman, Samuel Huntington, William Williams, Oliver Wolcott

New York:
William Floyd, Philip Livingston, Francis Lewis, Lewis Morris

New Jersey:
Richard Stockton, John Witherspoon, Francis Hopkinson, John Hart, Abraham Clark

Pennsylvania:
Robert Morris, Benjamin Rush, Benjamin Franklin, John Morton, George Clymer, James Smith, George Taylor, James Wilson, George Ross

Delaware:
Caesar Rodney, George Read, Thomas McKean

Maryland:
Samuel Chase, William Paca, Thomas Stone, Charles Carroll of Carrollton

Virginia:
George Wythe, Richard Henry Lee, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Harrison, Thomas Nelson, Jr., Francis Lightfoot Lee, Carter Braxton

North Carolina:
William Hooper, Joseph Hewes, John Penn

South Carolina:
Edward Rutledge, Thomas Heyward, Jr., Thomas Lynch, Jr., Arthur Middleton

Georgia:
Button Gwinnett, Lyman Hall, George Walton

*  *  *

Happy (Founding) Fathers Day

 

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Sun, 06/21/2015 - 11:50 | 6219172 firewolfsblog
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asshole (LOL)

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 11:56 | 6219190 kaiserhoff
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Restoring free speech,

  would be a damn good place to start.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 12:09 | 6219202 y3maxx
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Conspiracy theories, all of'em...

9/11
Iraq
Syria
Clinton's private charity
B H O not born in America

sarc off

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 12:20 | 6219248 chumbawamba
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This article is trite.

I am Chumbawamba.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 12:27 | 6219263 Who was that ma...
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Chumbawumba don't know shit.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 12:42 | 6219303 chumbawamba
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Says the guy with licenses and credit cards in his wallet.  A real patriot...of the banks.

I am Chumbawamba.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 13:02 | 6219358 greenskeeper carl
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"name one war this millinium you will defend"

 

If there are any wars this past CENTURY you are willing to defend you are stupid. We haven't had any busniness fighting any of them since the civil war(if you fought on the side of the south, that is). Dig into what we fought over in WWI, which guaranteed we would have a second world war. America has been sending their young men off to kill and die for bullshit for a lot longer than this phony 'war on terror'. As bad as this guy makes it sound, the truth is far worse than he describes.

 

However, discussing the folly of our recent middle east adventures is gaining prominance. More and more people are willing to do so, and its not nearly as taboo as it was even a few years ago. Saying we had no business in WWI or WWII or Korea is mostly still verboten. Can't insult that 'greatest generation's sacrifice' and all that bullshit.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 13:23 | 6219417 Bay of Pigs
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All wars are banker wars, including the the ones you mentioned.

Central Banks are the scourge of humanity.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 13:55 | 6219496 Paveway IV
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"...Tell me which war of the new millennium do you defend?..."

The one that starts with oligarchs in my fucking wood-chipper... 

You'll have to find a staged war somewhere else if you want to see 'little people' die for fake freedom and liberty.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 15:28 | 6219703 greenskeeper carl
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do you actually own a wood chipper, comrade? in that case, youll have to come with us.....

 

(apparently, according to some articles Ive read with regard to the Reason commenters case, actually OWNING a woodchipper is one of the things that would make that count as a nactual threat...)

Mon, 06/22/2015 - 03:45 | 6221160 Paveway IV
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Prosecutors hunt for online commenters who trash-talked Silk Road judge

Popehat: Comments are "obvious bluster," but prosecutors will get away with it.

Prosecutors want "any and all identifying information" related to the following eight comments, all published shortly after the May 31 blog post went up:

 

Agammamon: Its judges like these that should be taken out back and shot.

Alan: It's judges like this that will be taken out and short. FTFY.

croaker: Why waste ammunition? Wood chippers get the message across clearly. Especially if you feed them in feet first.

Cloudbuster: Why do it out back? Shoot them out front, on the steps of the courthouse.

Rhywun: I hope there is a special place in hell reserved for that horrible woman.

Alan: There is.

Product Placement: I'd prefer a hellish place on Earth be reserved for her as well.

croaker: Fuck that. I don't want to oay [sic] for that cunt's food, housing, and medical. Send her through the wood chipper.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 16:02 | 6219764 God
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GOD says start with Carl Icahn in your 'fucking wood-chipper'.

His report card, graded by me, GOD, is highly deficient.

There is one requirement when introducing Carl to the machinery. He goes in feet first.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 15:00 | 6219640 MonetaryApostate
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You really need to change that to....  "All Wars are Wealthy Corporate Wars"  

(Which include the likes of Cargill, Monsanto, Exxon, BP, ETC ETC ETC ETC!!!)

https://youtu.be/gCXQycyN_Vs

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 12:28 | 6219264 Oh regional Indian
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Painfully trite.

The troof as always is a whole lot murkier...

https://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2011/02/16/truth-about-america-truth-ab...

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 12:46 | 6219314 chumbawamba
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You've only scratched the surface, ORI.

-Chumblez.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 12:51 | 6219329 Oh regional Indian
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True, but this aspect is such an obvious one.

US Code whatever: The UNITED STATES is a corporation....

Case closed, nein?

Tief Kaninchenbau....

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 13:10 | 6219382 chumbawamba
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It is actually a trust.  As a trust, it has beneficiaries, and trustees to carry out the instructions of the indenture (in this case the Constitution).  It is a private entity established under international law and thus operates in that sphere.  It is a person that can sue and be sued.

The question is how does one become beholden to the trust?  And the answer is: by one's consent ("the consent of the goverened").  Every document one signs in which one attests that they are a citizen of the United States is an expression of that consent.

I am Chumbawamba.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 13:52 | 6219494 Oh regional Indian
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The signature and name fraud, yes.

Have you heard of a transgender radio host called Kate of Gaia? Pretty interesting work on Name, Legality, Language etc...

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 14:57 | 6219635 ebear
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The question to ask is not what form it takes, but whether it can continue to sustain and reproduce itself.  I would argue that it cannot.  We have passed the point of no return and decline is now an imminent reality.

What we see today are not the acts of a carefully planned agenda being executed with supreme confidence.  When it becomes necessary to lie about every aspect of the program - to create false enemies and false exigencies, you have reached the turning point.

You do not need mass approval and cooperation to execute the agenda.  You do need the confidence and efforts of those who can sustain and advance the program - that small percentage (as it's always been) of dedicated individuals who move not just a single nation, but the entire species forward.

That support, I would argue, has largely been withdrawn.  To put it simply, the intellectual and moral power that moves nations (and by inference, humanity) forward is no longer available in the USA.  What you have in its place is a form of nepotism that assigns individuals to tasks far beyond their capacity to resolve, hence more unintended consequences that only accelerate the decline.

For example, as with all intellectually bankrupt agendas, the attack on the World Trade Center, following an outdated rubric elucidated by Joseph Goebbels, produced the exact opposite of the intended effect.  While it may have rallied the masses, those masses no are no longer a factor in political outcomes.  On the contrary, the attack served to alienate the very individuals needed to execute the rapidly failing agenda.  Those individuals have now moved into opposition, or have silently withdrawn their support. 

Try developing impenetrable data systems, advanced weapons or new sources of energy and raw materials without their support.  Go ahead and gather all the intelligence you like - without someone to process and analyize it, all your efforts are in vain.

I'm not worried about Orwell's scenario of a boot forever stomping on a human face.  Technology and human awareness have overtaken Orwell's vision.  TPTB are attempting to solve an equation in too many variables for even the brightest minds to solve.  Once again, nature asserts itself and unseats those who would be gods.  As with vacuums, nature abhors an empire.  As with all empires, this one too will pass.  The only remaining question then is how much of a shitstorm we have to pass through to get to a place where we can once again use our collective wisdom to advance as a species.

 

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 00:47 | 6224534 gladius17
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"Try developing impenetrable data systems, advanced weapons or new sources of energy and raw materials without their support. "

10 steps ahead of you, Chief.

"Go ahead and gather all the intelligence you like - without someone to process and analyize it, all your efforts are in vain."

That's what neural networks are for.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 12:47 | 6219316 joseJimenez
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the truth is only murkier because of those who piss on it.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 12:59 | 6219346 Fun Facts
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The corporate media pisses on the citizen donkeys.

The matrix "reality" is unrelated to the truth.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 21:39 | 6220685 de3de8
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I like the cartoon though.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 13:41 | 6219252 Jorgen
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"Conspiracy theories, all of'em...

9/11

Iraq

Syria

Clinton's private charity

B H O not born in America"

 

You can add this one, too:

According to German intelligence, Ukraine started to develop nuclear weapons in 2014 (Google translation from Russian)

...

On withdrawal from the Treaty on Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT) in Kiev started talking immediately after the coup d'etat in 2014. First, such an initiative by deputies from the party "blow" after them - their counterparts from the neo-Nazi "Freedom". As a result, the relevant bill was submitted to the Verkhovna Rada. "We are not a great state to confront the aggressors such as the Russian Federation. Nuclear weapons force to reckon with us, "- said in an explanatory note to the draft law. 

And in September 2014 at the NATO summit in Wales, the then Defense Minister Valery Geleta explicitly stated that Kiev is ready to return to the question of the restoration of the nuclear status. "We will have to go back to the creation of nuclear weapons, which protects against Russia," - said Geleta. 

...

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 13:49 | 6219480 Teknopagan
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Restore the right of Association

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 15:28 | 6219704 kaiserhoff
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and the rights of minutemen,

  when every rifle was an assault rifle.

(and the rights of nonassociation)

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 12:31 | 6219271 Bloppy
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The PC Police are doing a better job crushing free speech than the feds ever could.

 

Clinton once signed order 'to commemorate the Confederate States of America'

http://tinyurl.com/pu7lnkw


Sun, 06/21/2015 - 12:44 | 6219311 lakecity55
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The failure of the War Between The States was an inability tp phase out slavery while preserving States' Rights (10th A).

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 13:13 | 6219389 greenskeeper carl
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"The PC Police are doing a better job crushing free speech than the feds ever could."

 

thats the truth right there. You don't even have to ban any kind of speech, you can get the PC police from both the left and the right to crush all decenting voices. One thing the left and right have in common is they both LOVE big govt (just each have their own slightly different ideas on who and how it should be run) and will therefore unite against and threat to it. Works great, obviously. Keeps a lid on the opposition who don't want to be run out of thier jobs because they are 'racist' or 'unpatriotic' or 'don't support the troops'. Those three phrases right there are enough to either outright silence anyone, or at least ban them from any effective platform of reaching people.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 14:29 | 6219580 wendigo
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I would argue that slavery would have died out anyway due to economic pressures. 

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 14:51 | 6219618 Burticus
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You mean the success of the War Against Southern Independence, after Lincoln, the worst president of what became the United State_, decreed that membership in the union was no longer voluntary.

It's time for the states to declare independence again.

http://leagueofthesouth.com/          http://freeflorida.org/

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 15:30 | 6219709 GMadScientist
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Try winning an election south of the Mason-Dixon line without doing that.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 11:50 | 6219173 The Steaksmith
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Happy FODDERS Day sheeps

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 11:53 | 6219184 Parsecs Taxi
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I just want more growth, and progress, and stuff - so shut up, and quit rockin' the boat.

SHEEP ARE WINNING!

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 12:50 | 6219327 nevertheless
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The speed are diing

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 11:52 | 6219180 Jack Daniels Esq
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Time to hang all 535 morons + I Criminal-in-Charge for fraud, treason

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 12:49 | 6219321 joseJimenez
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and the 1100 or so scumbags that rule the world.  Let's stop killing the innocent and turn our guns on them

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 15:31 | 6219711 GMadScientist
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You missed 12 equally culpable assholes.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 21:21 | 6220636 Trucker Glock
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Can we dig up and hang the assholes who ratified the Constitution (the anti-Declaration of Independence)?

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 11:57 | 6219192 Milestones
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Unfortunately, the article was a hole in one. right on target.          Miestones

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 11:57 | 6219194 WillyGroper
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Plenty of cards available at CVS Baltimore.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 11:59 | 6219197 p00k1e
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‘America’ is a concept.’ "kids these days" 

‘America’ to the Native Americans is a Trail of Tears and casino royalties.   

Euro-America ended in 1965. 

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 12:21 | 6219249 All_Your_Base
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ended in 1871 actually

As the States once confronted a seemingly all-powerful global empire and flourished, could not at least one State (show me, Missouri) confront the current seemingly all-powerful global empire?

What is the worst that could happen? Isn't it happening anyway (even if we bow and scrape)?

If USSA, Inc. can ignore the Constitution, could not a fed-up State ignore the 16th and 17th amendment?

What is the worst that could happen? Nudelman cookies?

 

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 12:31 | 6219270 p00k1e
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Exactly.  

To me America ended in 1794 after Washington busted caps on the new Americans. 

Later turn dates could be argued, 1835/1837.  In 1835 President Jackson paid off the national debt for good until 1837 when an economic panic set in and we are still paying for it.  LOL

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 12:40 | 6219301 Took Red Pill
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Yes, it's been a very long time since we had "glory days". None of us were alive.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 12:42 | 6219302 lakecity55
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Seems to me the only folks beefing about "race" are those who can make coin out of it.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 12:00 | 6219200 GMadScientist
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The "Greatness of Your Past" is a myth you've been constructing for two centuries at best; you can count how many years this country was "free" on one hand.

Your opinions on this matter aren't worth a Continental.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 12:02 | 6219206 Government need...
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Just got back from church.  Got an earful of white guilt from our minister, who kept strong-sheparding us men on Father's Day.  I bet this is occurring all across SC churches where whites are a large part of the congregation.  We're all gonna get a double-barrell full of gun-grabbing and white guilt this upcoming week.  What a fucking cuntry.  Those Federal bastards ignore large swaths of law (immigration, drug, and those Amendment thing-ys), but when a white murders some blacks, the nation stops, the President stomps, Sharpton snorts, and white churches across SC imprint white guilt.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 12:38 | 6219295 lakecity55
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Tell pastor you think he's full of it.

I have no guilt at all (I am 10% afro, but the 90% crackuh is OK.)

All this white this and that is part of the commie playbook. Don't play.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 13:04 | 6219370 Fun Facts
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our ZWO masters divide and conquer along every fissure they can manufacture in their media.

It's a shame the dumbed down retards fall for it, because our ZWO gods on earth biggest nightmare is the people...all races, all classes, all political persuasions coming together against the real enemy of the people.

There are six billion+ of us, and 200 or so of them.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 13:08 | 6219377 greenskeeper carl
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I don't know why that would surprise you. The only purpose of organized religion and their churches is to brainwash people. Lead them in the 'proper' direction for the elite. How so many otherwise intelligent people still go to church boggles my mind. Religion and government are the two most dangerous human inventions in history

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 13:22 | 6219412 Nostradumbass
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I think the following link is accessible to non-members - try it.

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2015/05/RIR-150529.php

 

Greg Johnson - Hour 1 - Exploiting Trust-Based Societies & Architects of White Genocide
 May 29, 2015
 Dr. Greg Johnson is the editor-in-Chief of Counter Currents and its journal and webzine North American New Right. He is the author of "Confessions of a Reluctant Hater" and also "New Right vs. Old Right." Greg joins us to share his insights on the current trend of pathological altruism that has taken hold of certain northern European countries, which is leading to a demographic destruction of native cultures through extreme immigration policies. Greg talks about his recent trip to Sweden, a country that appears to be all prosperity and Whiteness on the surface, but is truly suffering from very real problems created by an insulated elite political body with a fix-it-all attitude promoting mass immigration and radical diversity. Greg speaks about ice age hunter-gatherer descendants of northern Europe who built individualistic, trust-based societies, and he explains the different mentality that exists for ethnically defined tribal in-groups of the south and Middle East. He emphasizes how fundamental differences between in-groups is an invitation for exploitation and parasitic relationships. Then, we look at the widespread, misconceived attitudes today’s adults and parents have concerning passing on values to our youth, as well as the politically correct evolutionary rut that Whites have fallen into in the name of high-minded openness. In the members’ hour, we get into the religious aspect of unifying the ranks of the nationalist political movement and the need to disband the anti-White policies within Christian churches. We break down the construction of Christianity in Europe that brought with it the bloody destruction of native European spirituality and the tendency for pre-Christian religions and cultures to be regarded as an error. Greg underlines the net effects of being uprooted from ones traditions and superficially implanted within belief systems that lack identity. We also discuss the religion of liberalism, the (non)assimilation of immigrants, and the architects of White genocide. Later, we ask ourselves how we can get the conspiracy crowd to see the full measure of Israel’s masterpiece conspiracy. In conclusion, Greg defines the way to understand hegemony, namely harnessing the superior ability to adapt to changing circumstances.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 14:02 | 6219519 Skip
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Exploitation Versus Trust: The Difference in the Jewish and Gentile Worldviews

One of the most important concepts to free-market economists is what is known as "transaction costs". The transaction cost of a purchase is the cost over and above what is paid for a good or service in order to make the purchase possible. For example, if we wish to buy a used car, we may decide to have a mechanic look it over, and our payment to the mechanic then becomes part of the transaction costs. Likewise, if we have to pay a tax on the purchase of the car, then this also becomes part of the transaction cost.

Because transaction costs can be large, there is an obvious motivation to reduce them. As libertarians have often pointed out, the effect of government is generally to raise transaction costs, as would be the case when government imposes taxes or costly regulations on businesses. (Such costs are often 'hidden' in the price of the goods or services purchased, but in reality they are part of the transaction costs.) But it is within the power of government to "reduce" transaction costs as well, as happens when government inspection guarantees the healthfulness of foods, and government laws make it unlikely that a businessman will dare to cheat his customers.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 14:09 | 6219540 Skip
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And as to Sweden:

Look up Barbara Spectre Lerner. Here is a video of what she had to say about who is behind 3rd world immigration into all of Europe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2Vq_e2Z1ug

There is another member of the same tribe, Anetta Kahane in Germany saying the same things: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuYKtwnzG7M

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 15:34 | 6219722 Nostradumbass
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Those are both very telling videos!

I'll be passing those around - thanks.

Here is an eloquent addressing of the problem in the US by Revilo P. Oliver:

 


"In the foregoing pages I have tried only to suggest what seem to me to be the most important phenomena that must be taken into account in forming an objective estimate of the Jews and in considering dispassionately the present plight of our race and the doom that seems to hang over our children and over ourselves, unless we are individuals who have already come prope ad ipsos exactae aetatis terminos.

I do not know what, if anything, can be done to preserve a species that some judicious observers believe to be driven by a largely subconscious, but irresistible, death-wish."

http://www.heretical.com/oliver/js13.html

 

 

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 17:38 | 6220047 dsty
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Ya right!

Jews are behind the 3rd world immigration to Europe

Especially Muslims.

What planet you guys living on.

This was a liberal woman espousing multiculturalism, she is a libtard like some of you.

Same old stupid mantra, Zio this Zio that

retarded!

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 18:51 | 6220246 Arthur Schopenhauer
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I don't know what this has to do with guilt, but I see a pastor trying to deliver a eulogy, standing over the graves of 9 people murdered in cold blood; but nobody can hear what he is saying because he is being drowned out by a crowd of people are shouting angrily, arguing about gun control issues.

... and the blood of the dead hasn't even grown cold yet.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 12:05 | 6219215 withglee
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I came to the conclusion that today’s America* is an ugly fraud. 

I'm reading William McClay's Journal (http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/amlaw/lwmj.html). McClay was a first Senator from the state of Pennsylvania. His Journal is the only documentation about the initial operations of our governmental mechanisms.

From this journal it is evident to me that America* has been an ugly fraud since the beginning and hopelessly flawed. I'm left amazed the hoax has been sustained this long.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 13:50 | 6219484 Nostradumbass
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Thanks for the information on William McClay's Journal.

I found a link for a free download and downloaded the journal here:

https://ia902509.us.archive.org/3/items/maclayjournal00willrich/maclayjo...

Mon, 06/22/2015 - 02:35 | 6221069 withglee
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Page 239: On the emerging bureaucracy:

Infatuated people that we are! The first thing done under our new Government was the creation of a vast number of offices and officers. A treasury delated into as many branches as interest could frame. A Secretary of War with a host of clerks; and above all a Secretary of State, and all these men labor in their several vocations. Hence we must have a mass of national debt to employ the Treasury, an army for fear the Department of War should lack employment. Foreign engagements, too, must be attended to to keep up the consequences of that Secretary. The next cry will be for an Admiralty. Give Knox his army, and he will soon have a war on hand; indeed, I am dearly of opinion that he is aiming at this even now, and that, few as the troops are that he now has under his direction, he will have a war in less than six months with the Southern Indians.

Page 240: On producing FUD to justify a standing army:

New phantoms for the day must be created. Now a dangerous and dreadful conspiracy is discovered to be carrying on between the people of Kentucky and the Spaniards. King unfolded this mysterious business, adding that he conceived his fears were well founded. He firmly believed there was a conspiracy; that it was dangerous to put arms into the hands of the frontier people for their defense, lest they should use them against the United States.

I really could scarce keep my seat and hear such base subterfuges made use of one after another. I rose, demanded what right gentlemen had to monopolize information. If they had it, let them come forward with it and give other people an opportunity of judging of the authenticity of the information, as well as the persons in possession of it; declared that I could not tamely sit and hear the characters of the people on the Western waters traduced by the lump. This day was the first ever I heard of the word "conspiracy" being applied to the inhabitants of the Western waters. I had a right to doubt it until authentic proof was brought forward of the fact. I felt myself disposed to wipe King hard, and certainly did so.

Page 241: The Constitution on the militia:

The man must be blind who does not see a most unwarrantable management respecting our military affairs. The Constitution certainly never contemplated a standing army in.time of peace. A well-regulated militia to execute the laws of the Union, quell insurrections, and repel invasions, is the very language of the Constitution. General Knox offers a most exceptional bill for a general militia law which excites (as it is most probably he expected) a general opposition. Thus the business of the militia stands still, and the Military Establishment bill, which increases the standing troops one half, is pushed with all the art and address of ministerial management.

MacClay was not re-elected. Pitty.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 12:36 | 6219287 lakecity55
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Now to wash out my eyes....

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 12:08 | 6219225 Implicit simplicit
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It reminds me of a totally psychopathic goverment and a sociopathic society the way it DRONES on. 

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 12:15 | 6219237 Smuckers
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Welcome to Acirema.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 12:22 | 6219251 FreeShitter
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As we say in the hood, Who's yo daddy day!

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 12:36 | 6219288 Monetas
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Uncle Sam .... the man who brings home the bacon !

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 12:49 | 6219322 lakecity55
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And the Guy who broke up the Black American family unit: Lumpy Butt Jackass, LBJ.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 12:23 | 6219254 Who was that ma...
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The world we live in becomes more understandable once we realize and accept that it is populated by mindless morons and run by egocentric, psychopathic fools.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 12:32 | 6219272 GRDguy
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Which somehow the majority of voters returns them to rule after every election.  

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 13:01 | 6219351 Who was that ma...
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Proved my point.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 12:25 | 6219256 OC Sure
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"Article 1. No person, groups of persons, or body of governance may initiate the use of force, coercion, or fraud against the person or property of any individual.

Article 2. The use of force may only be used as retaliation against those who violate Article 1.

Article 3. No exceptions exist among Article 1 and Article 2."

 - Frank Wallace

 

The above is the fundamental principle which the Founders did not explicitly state and it never was applied in a non-contradictory manner per the product of the first convention of states. Any second convention of states per Article V of the US Constitiution if it is to be successful must apply this principle catholically. The purpose of any body of governance, morally, is to remove an existing compulsion, not to establish compulsion. 

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 16:32 | 6219881 nc551
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Who is Frank Wallace?  I can't find anything on him.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 12:33 | 6219276 Monetas
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Texas should secede .... backed up by M.A.T.O. .... Mexican American Treaty Organization !

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 12:34 | 6219281 q99x2
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WWIII the war to eradicate the world of banking and banking families. Long live the George Wash and the opensource financial system

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 12:36 | 6219286 Peter Pan
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Evil and unsustainable practices can endure for what would seem to be an inordinate amount of time  because humans measure things by reference to their own lives whereas trends can endure for 2 or more generations.

We must make no mistake however. What the USA has turned into has no long term place in the cycle of civilization. It is simply another example of evil much like Hitler and other such personalities that caused destruction and suffering.

Godlessness (or at least virtue) along with materialism and psychopathic leadership have not yet reached their crescendo and hence we have yet to see the full ugliness of what lies ahead.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 13:30 | 6219430 Teknopagan
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Hitler wanted to destroy bolshevism; sadly he was finally destroyed by it.  

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 13:33 | 6219440 HowardBeale
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It all (the "American" psycho clusterfuck of evil intentions and deeds) very much reminds me of Hannah Arendt's Eichmann in Jerusalem: A Report on the Banality of Evil; and that is to say, you can't find a set of horns and a flaming pitchfork anywhere, just a bunch self-centered narcissists doing whatever they can rationalize in their damaged minds, and another bunch of inert idiots that are the living equivalent of a struck pool ball.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 12:37 | 6219294 Not if_ But When
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Of course, another aspect of current day "Father's Day" triteness is:

Why should a son or daughter give a small gift or card or happy father's day wish to a male parent (who along with his  parents, etc) have basically presented the youngest of the young with a great big "fuck you, you're screwed" gift lasting forever?

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 18:03 | 6220110 ronslim
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You poor little victim. Did your daddy eat your brain.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 12:39 | 6219297 Monetas
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Citizenship should be renewed .... like a driver's license .... you have to pass a civics test .... every 6 years !

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 13:01 | 6219353 nevertheless
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You would not have many citizens...America has allowed the zionist/corportist media to tunr being a US citizen to a rubber stamp. They have educated Americans to think we have no more right to this country than do illegals from Mexico.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 12:46 | 6219304 Skip
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"You see it works because the proverbial majority simply do not make it a high enough priority to perform their moral and civic obligation to enforce the constitutional mandates upon our representatives, that is, to govern our nation."

Well blame the victim. I suppose that is the more comfortable and safe approach.

Now there is a truth behind what happened to America. In about 7 minutes of reading you can find out. Another 10 minutes and you will have an even deeper understanding, PDF version here

I would think the average lemming wouldn't be too interested in reading about that, they might miss the latinos playing baseball, or the blacks in the NBA or NFL or whatever the Glass Toilet has on today. Nevertheless there is a STORM coming and the lemmings will have NO one to help them. And surely they are INCAPABLE of helping themselves. So as they watch Caitlyn and Kardashians and the Housewives of Atlanta and what is that new black show EMPIRE? #1 show in the USSA.

What’s coming?

More black on White violence:

On Twitter, from blacks: #WeWillShootBack - Tweets that would get any one of us tracked down, prosecuted and fired from our jobs if we said the same about blacks or other non-Whites.

twitter.com/search?q=%23wewillshootback&src=tyah&vertical=default&f=tweets

SIGN POSTS on the road to Extinction:
First, They Came For The Confederate Battle Flag. Then, They Came
For The American Flag—In Fact, They Already Have...

It’s happening. In 2009 at Live Oak High School, hundreds of Hispanic students wore Mexican Flag shirts, while 5 white students wore American flags t-shirts or Bandannas. The Hispanic assistant principal Miguel Rodriguez demanded the white students to remove the American flag clothing or go home.

The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals upheld the principles conduct and earlier this year, the Supreme Court declined to review the case.

The day of the shooting, the Supreme Court issued its decision in Walker v. Texas Division, Sons of the Confederate Veterans, which upheld the state’s decision to ban the Confederate Flag license plates.

Though the cases dealt with different legal issues, the result was the same: minorities can claim to be offended by both Confederate Flag and the American flag, the State restricts display of the flags, and the Courts uphold the suppression.

Conversely, an illegal alien graduate of the University of California-San Diego recently waved the Mexican flag on stage as she received her diploma without any fear of sanction. [Controversy erupts after undocumented immigrant waves Mexican flag at graduation, Fox News Latino, June 19, 2015]

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 12:47 | 6219318 Reaper
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We live in the American fantasy world indoctrinated into us by our schools, our media, the surrounding sheeple, and our Ministry of Truth. Exceptional, making the world safe for democracy, civil rights, our noble military, our Constitution are just words used to control us. "One of the best" or "exceptional" are false praise meant to control.

The sheeple submit, because they crave the security of childhood. The State is their replacement neo-parent. The government obliges.

"The gods praise those whom they'll destroy."

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 12:51 | 6219328 ThrowAwayYourTV
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Why are you using the Wal*Mart logo (*) after the name, America*? Habit ?

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 12:59 | 6219349 Lordchamp
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Excellent and right on the money.

We will do nothing until such time as something hits us personally, square in the face but even then, we may yet "turn the other cheek" again.

Ignorance is our major problem. Fortunately, ignorance is curable with knowledge.

Of even those here, I wonder how many actually read above or have recently read the Founding Documents word for word.

Of the rest of the Country, I dare say 95%+ have never read them.

As a side note, the grievances listed above in the Declaration ALL apply to our government today as much as they did to the King of England.

If you don't even know what the Founding Documents say, how can you expect to make your government abide by them?

Most people would be appalled at how the government each and every day ignores the Constitution as written, not as interpreted. If they only had their ignorance cured by knowledge. Talk to someone about enumerated powers and they look at you with a blank, clueless stare.

The Founders saw fit to write the Founding Documents in the plain, common language of the day so the common man could easily understand it. NO TRANSLATION REQUIRED.

Yet, today we need 9 people in robes, with their own agendas, to tell us what it says. That's not ignorance, it moves into the realm of stupidity because the ignorance is so easily cured.

We need a massive movement to inform people of what the Founding Documents truly say and mean according to the Founders, not the interpreters.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 18:15 | 6220141 Farmer Joe in B...
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We need one state (Texas?) to lead the charge...

I don't think there is even a remote chance without a major crash first. That day may soon come.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 13:03 | 6219361 Bighorn_100b
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I will always blame religion, big oil, bankers, now drug companies and lobbyists and greed for all our problems.

Every race has its bad seeds. Don't let it spoil the whole apple cart.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 13:12 | 6219384 jm
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What a collapse.  I'm really embarrassed for you, Tyler. 

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 13:21 | 6219411 pachanguero
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fuck the man!

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 13:46 | 6219473 newworldorder
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Since 1913 the US has been shapped in the image of the Globalist Financial Interests. Perhaps up to 1960, we may have tried to live by the Government our funding fathers envisioned for future generations.

 

Since 1960 and for reasons too numerous to discuss in great detai, we are a nation in name only, living on whaterve good will is left from each successive generation. Race, ethnicity, political and social issues are pre-eminent over the shared values we should hold as US citizens. In our own way we have become a nation of takers, simply because we can. Our monetary systme has made it possible to take without consequesnces.

 

We are bringing into this country millions of alleged immigrants who are simply takers in their own way and without regard to what this country represents beyond the dollars to be had. We are long past the point of no return. Many do not wish to admit the obvisous, - that as a country we do not see ourselves as the WHOLE. Many see race, and economic interests only. The fabric of society has been nummingly weakened over the last 50 years and NOTHING will make whole again.

 

Like the pervebrial plate spinner, in a carnival show, all the plates are in the air, - dependant on the skill and strength of the spinner to "forever keep them spinning."  The false illusion is that the spinner can keep ihem up forever.  

 

If the spinners of our collective future are not able to safely bring these plates down from the air, there will be hell on earth unleashed on our once great Republic.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 13:53 | 6219500 BI2
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George Washington warned us of this CURSE >>> https://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/2014/07/17/is-america-cursed/

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 14:11 | 6219518 anachronism
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Keep in mind that the America, for which this writer is so nostalgic, was  a WHITE America. It was a PROTESTANT CHRISTIAN America. It was a FAMILY-CENTERED and MALE-CENTERED America. it was a SURVIVALIST America.

The vast majority of Americans todaywould not want to live in such a society.

As we have become multi-racial. It is a disadvantage to be white.

As we have divorced ourselves from religion, we have ridiculed and marginalized religion.

"It takes a Village" to raise childrennow. The village keepers discourage parental influence, whenever parents pose obstacles to their indoctrination of our children.

Our boys are not encouraged to assimulate the character traits of our historical heros. Instead, they are instructed to equate feminist "me-too: and "get-along"/ "sing-along" character traits with leadership(?), with heroism, and with strength of character.

The social safety net has relieved Americans from the sense that we are -each of us as individuals- ultimately the ones most responsibe for our survuval and success.

We discourage at best, and outlaw at worst, the possession of firearms, whereas it was once expected that every man should own and maintain a firearm.

There is no turning back.

But each of us -if we are truly nostalgic for such an America, should ask ourselves: Do we possess the same character traits which were held in such high esteem back then?

Would we stand up to police whenever they use excessive force? Would we risk the blows and bullets which they could administer to us with impunity?

Would we speak out against the egregious violations of constitutional rights and of basic human rights, when we know that our government would incarcerate us, and inflict physical and psychological pain on us, for doing so?

Would we have joined Cliven Bundy and the oathkeepers who defied the landgrab by federal authorities in Nevada?

And, on the other side of the political spectrum:

Would we have joined the Occupiers in defiance of policemen, who were there to protect the property of the privileged?

WOULD WE??

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 14:15 | 6219556 Skip
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What happened to America, for which we both mourn, did not happen by chance but rather by DESIGN...

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 14:49 | 6219613 juicy_bananas
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President selfie stick.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 18:33 | 6220199 honestann
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The founding fathers were tyrants.

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The native americans had it right.  Each settlement had its own "house rules" AKA "tribe rules".  If you wanted to live in any of those settlements, you had to follow the house rules, or accept the consequences specified in those house rules.

Between settlements was "no mans land", where the only rule was "do not attempt to harm others, or expect to be killed in self-defense".

So any human could move into the settlement that had the "settlement rules" that suited them personally.

Or, they could move into "no mans land" and establish their own settlement with their own "settlement rules".

THAT was liberty.  THAT was freedom.

But the freaking self-righteous moron westerners moved in and established a practice that ALWAYS and NECESSARILY destroys liberty, freedom and basic civility.  That is, to claim that "our rules cover EVERYWHERE and EVERYONE for hundreds or thousands of miles.

This makes liberty impossible.  This makes freedom impossible.  This makes civilization and civilized behavior impossible.  This makes everyone dominated by the most egregeous human predators.

And so, whatever you think of their intentions...

Whoever established "counties" or "states" or "nations" were TYRANTS., and they destroyed what was the perfect system for human beings.  This is not to say that every set of "house rules" and practices were good or benevolent, but that's entirely irrelevant.  For each individual or family to set their own "house rules" is perfectly compatible with liberty, freedom and civilization... as long as everyone is free to leave any tribe/house/settlement whenever they wish.

And so, the founding fathers finished the total destruction of America that was started by whoever ignored the essentially perfect system that already prevailed, and instituted the idea that inherently and necessarily destroys liberty, freedom and civilization.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 18:44 | 6220228 'argar the 'orrible
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and another thing, did you know that if Mr Obama proclaimed Marshal Law, he does not have to have another election untill that proclamation is recindered. Now;  how long do you want Mr Obama to be president ?, if at all. Me! i have no opinion on the matter, he's your president, not mine. Aren't you lucky !!

All donations to 'Save Me Fund' at that most trustworthy of all banks,  the IMF.

Anyone know of an Island going cheap, or a spaceship or something?

 

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 19:09 | 6220294 GeoffreyT
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the proverbial majority simply do not make it a high enough priority to perform their moral and civic obligation to enforce the constitutional mandates[snippity-boo-blah]

 

Anyone remotely conversant with principles of constrained optimisation, will recognise this as a fundamental misjudgement (or misdirection).

To begin with, the premises are wrong: individuals do not have a 'moral and civic obligation to enforce the constitutional mandates' - in fact the only genuinely morally-consistent position with respect to the State and its agents, is to refuse to co-operate with it and them (and arguably, there is a moral imperative to seek to undermine it and them where possible).

Furthermore, rational individuals will devote their scarce resources to policy-evaluation (and/or the selection of political officeholders, and their performance of their duties), if and only if the expected benefit to further analysis outweighs the cost of undertaking the analysis.

Consider a country with 100 million voters, where a policy that will cost $100million is being proposed; the entrire $100m is going to take the form of a no-bid contract to a firm that used to employ a senior oficeholder. The expected cost to an individual is $1; the expected benefit to the individual is unknown. The expected net benefit will be near-zero.

When an individual seeks to determine whether or not he supports this policy proposal, it makes absolutely no sense to use resources whose overall value is more than the expected net benefit.

In other words, a rational self-interested individual will spend about 2 minutes evaluating the average policy proposal (leaving aside whether or not they possess the analytical tools and conceptual framework to analyse the policy effectively... 99% of the population objectively do not possess these tools).

Now do the same analysis for the firm: it has an incentive to spend up to the entire profit component of the contract. Let's assume a standard operating margin of 20%... they will be willing to spend up to $20m on lobbying (but they wojn't have to spend anywhere near that amount: the NPAT margin on lobbying is of the order of 6700%).

 

THAT is how t hey get ya, folks: diffuse costs and concentrated benefits. And there is nothing you can do about it, except getting rid of the State in the same way as we got rid of the last lot of self-anointed determiners of public policy - the Church (and before them, the Crown).

The State is simply the continuation of a set of tropes that permit a parasitic class to live at the expense of a society: these tropes have been in place for at least 6000 years. In the past, power-seekers claimed a divine mandate (which was a lie, of course); today power-seekers use a no-less-obvious lie - the 'democratic mandate' (it is a lie because by Arrow's Impossibility Theorem and the Gibbard-Satterthwaite Theorem, it is impossible to determine social preferences from ordinal individual preferences).

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 19:44 | 6220373 Billy Bob101
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Excellent!  Many years ago a close friend said I was un-American because I didn't blindly support the government in everything it did.  This upset me so much that I decided to trace my genealogy.  Surprise, surprise, my first ancestors to come over included Myles Standish and John and Priscilla Alden.  Eight of my ancestors fought in the War of Independence.  One fought in the Battle of Bunker Hill in 1775, another served in John Hancock's guard.  Many millions of others, most of whom are not aware of it, are quite similar.  It is the American family.  Blind agreement with the government is simply not part of the tradition.  Hopefully, it will always be so.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 20:43 | 6220547 DEVILDOG
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America has been gone for decades. America* will be gone within this decade by the violent overthrow of our current corrupt and traitorous government* and the scumbags* that bought it.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 20:43 | 6220548 DEVILDOG
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America has been gone for decades. America* will be gone within this decade by the violent overthrow of our current corrupt and traitorous government* and the scumbags* that bought it.

Sun, 06/21/2015 - 22:22 | 6220788 BI2
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George Washington warned us of this one CURSE >>> https://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/2014/07/17/is-america-cursed/

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!