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12 Signs That The United States And China Are Moving Toward War
Submitted by Michael Snyder via The End of The American Dream blog,
If the United States and China are supposed to be such “great friends”, why are both sides acting as if war is in our future? Thanks to events in the South China Sea and the blatant theft of the personal information of millions of U.S. government workers, tensions between the United States and China are the highest that they have been in decades.
Most Americans typically assume that a real, actual shooting war between the U.S. and China could never possibly happen, but as you will see below the Chinese are actually spending a lot of time and money preparing for precisely such a conflict. In fact, the Chinese are working feverishly to develop new offensive weapons systems that would only be used in such a war. Of course it is extremely unlikely that a military conflict between our two nations will happen in our immediate future, but without a doubt we are moving in that direction. And this is how wars typically happen – things build up over a period of time before they finally reach a breaking point.
Just think about what took place between the United States and Japan in the lead up to our war with them. There were years of diplomatic troubles before Japan finally made the decision to launch a “surprise” attack on Pearl Harbor. Right now, I believe that we are moving into a similar period of diplomatic trouble with China. Initially, this will likely affect our trade relationship with the Chinese, but ultimately it could be much more than that. The following are 10 signs that the United States and China are moving toward war…
#1 China’s moves in the South China Sea have greatly angered Obama administration officials. Some of the islands that China has grabbed are also claimed by Malaysia, Vietnam, Taiwan, Brunei and the Philippines. The United States is bound by treaty to defend the Philippines in any conflict with China, and Brunei, Malaysia and Vietnam are all slated to be parties to the new super secret global trade treaty that Obama is currently negotiating. The following comes from Business Insider…
China’s reclamation of more than 2,000 acres of land on disputed islands and atolls in the South China Sea since last year has raised international alarm over its territorial ambitions. Washington took the unusual step last month of publicizing a U.S. military surveillance flight that showed the massive scale of China’s island-building.
China says the islands are its sovereign territory, but Washington argues that the continuation of building work and militarization of the islands could enflame complex territorial disputes with China’s neighbors, with whom the U.S. is seeking to forge closer ties while preserving freedom of navigation in sea lanes crucial for world trade.
#2 In China, there is talk that a war may be necessary to defend China’s interests in the South China Sea. In fact, a newspaper that is a mouthpiece for the Communist Party actually stated that war with the United States “is inevitable” if the U.S. continues to insist that the Chinese must halt activities on those islands…
Coinciding with the publication of the white paper, an editorial in The Global Times – a tabloid newspaper mouthpiece for the ruling Communist Party – issued a warning to the US to halt its protests over the South China Sea.
Last week, China’s foreign ministry revealed it had lodged a complaint with the US over an American spy plane that flew over parts of the disputed archipelago.
The article read: “We do not want a military conflict with the United States, but if it were to come, we have to accept it.”
It added that China should “carefully prepare” for the possibility of war with Washington and that “if the United States’ bottom line is that China is to halt activities, then a US-China war is inevitable in the South China Sea”.
#3 The theft of the information of up to 14 million federal workers is being described as “an act of war“. At this point, the Obama administration appears convinced that this horrible act was committed by the Chinese government…
Cybersecurity is another source of acrimony that’s up for discussion, given fresh urgency by the massive security breach that led to the theft of personal information of as many as 14 million current and former U.S. federal employees. The Obama administration believes that China’s government, not criminal hackers, was responsible for the breach that included detailed background information on military and intelligence personnel.
China has denied involvement in the break-in and says it is also a victim of cyberattacks.
So was China behind this theft?
Perhaps we will never know for sure, but without a doubt this incident has raised tensions between the two nations.
And as tensions continue to increase, it is likely that the cyber espionage being committed by both sides will only get worse. Ian Bremmer, the founder of Eurasia Group, recently told Business Insider that he believes that a “virtual war” between our countries has already begun…
“We should be very clear: China is at virtual war with the United States, and the threat is far higher than that of terrorism, which gets the lion’s share of attention — and, in the post-9/11 world, funding.”
#4 China recently conducted a series of massive military exercises that simulated an attack against Taiwan. Since the U.S. is committed to protecting Taiwan, a real conflict of this nature would almost certainly involve the United States. The following comes from an article that was posted on janes.com…
In a new analysis by Richard Fisher and James Hardy, IHS Jane’s reports that “A series of Chinese military exercises between late May and early June showcased the ability of the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) to project land, air, and naval power into the area around Taiwan.”
The exercises demonstrated the People’s Liberation Army’s plan to use civilian ships during emergencies to help boost its forces.
“To compensate for the relatively small size of its formal naval amphibious transport fleet the PLA has co-funded construction of a large number of ferries used by civilian companies. They will be made available to the PLA during emergencies and are a frequent element in civil-military transport exercises,” Fisher and Hardy write.
#5 According to Paul Joseph Watson, thousands of Chinese merchant ships are being retrofitted for military purposes. The only possible conflict in which the Chinese military would need “thousands of merchant ships” would be a war with the United States…
China is set to retrofit thousands of merchant ships for military purposes so they can be used in the event of a war, another disturbing indication of growing tensions between Beijing and Washington.
Shipping industry publication TradeWinds reveals that China is preparing a new fleet of “war-ready ships” to serve as “a reserve military logistics wing” in the event of a naval conflict.
The new policy will apply to “containerships, ro-ros, multipurpose ships, bulkers and other ships,” with shipbuilders receiving a government subsidy to pay for the cost of making the vessels “militarily useful.”
#6 The Chinese have developed a “carrier killer” missile which was specifically designed to destroy U.S. aircraft carriers. There are some that have suggested that these new missiles may have made U.S. aircraft carriers obsolete…
Nevertheless, some have suggested that the DF-21D has rendered the supercarrier obsolete. While it depends on how we use the term “obsolete,” it’s probably too early to make that claim. China has expended vast time and resources determining how to kill US carriers, which suggests that the Chinese military takes carrier capabilities seriously. Moreover, the number of countries with both the interest and technical capability to develop the system of systems necessary to operate an ASBM is probably limited to two for the foreseeable future, with only Russia joining China.
#7 The Chinese now have the capability of equipping their nuclear missiles with MIRV warheads. According to Bill Gertz, this has significantly equalized the balance of power between the U.S. and China…
China carried out a long-range missile flight test on Saturday using multiple, independently targetable reentry vehicles, or MIRVs, according to U.S. defense officials.
The flight test Saturday of a new DF-41 missile, China’s longest-range intercontinental ballistic missile, marks the first test of multiple warhead capabilities for China, officials told the Washington Free Beacon.
China has been known to be developing multiple-warhead technology, which it obtained from the United States illegally in the 1990s.
However, the Dec. 13 DF-41 flight test, using an unknown number of inert maneuvering warheads, is being viewed by U.S. intelligence agencies as a significant advance for China’s strategic nuclear forces and part of a build-up that is likely to affect the strategic balance of forces.
#8 Of much greater concern than the MIRV warheads are the new hypersonic glide vehicles that China has developed. These ultra-high-speed missiles are capable of carrying nuclear warheads and represent a huge threat to the United States…
China recently conducted the second flight test of a new, ultra-high-speed missile that is part of what analysts say is Beijing’s global system of attack weapons capable of striking the United States with nuclear warheads.
The latest test of the new hypersonic glide vehicle (HGV) known as Wu-14 took place Aug. 7 at a missile facility in western China, said U.S. government officials familiar with details of the test reported in internal channels.
#9 The Chinese Navy is building a series of extremely quiet ballistic missile submarines. These subs could potentially creep up to our coastlines and rain nuclear missiles down on us within just a few minutes. The following comes from an article by Bill Gertz…
The Chinese Navy has deployed three ballistic missile submarines at sea capable of striking the United States with nuclear missiles, the commander of the U.S. Northern Command said Tuesday.
Adm. William Gortney, the commander, said the submarines are a “concern” and will be able to strike the United States when fully deployed with missiles and warheads.
The missile submarines are deployed in the South China Sea at a base on Hainan Island, according to a defense official.
#10 The Chinese have developed submarine-based nuclear missiles that could potentially reach all 50 states from the waters of Hawaii…
China could soon target the United States with sea-based nuclear weapons as it is reinforcing its submarines with long-range nuclear ballistic missiles, a US congressional report has found.
China’s military is set to acquire a reliable, hard-to-destroy sea-based nuclear deterrent, with a dozen JL-2 missiles that are being mounted on its JIN class submarines, according to a report submitted to Congress by the US-China Economic and Security Review Commission.
The missiles have a strike range of around 7,350 km, meaning they can reach all 50 US states if they are launched from waters west or east of Hawaii.
#11 At a time when the U.S. military is actually shrinking, Chinese military spending is increasing each year by double digits…
China’s government in March announced a 12.2 percent increase in military spending to $132 billion. That followed last year’s 10.7 percent increase to $114 billion, giving China the second-highest defense budget for any nation behind the U.S., which spent $600.4 billion on its military last year.
#12 The Chinese military is not the only one preparing for a war between our two nations. It turns out that the U.S. military has been conducting military exercises that are specifically geared toward simulating a conflict with China. The following comes from the BBC…
Watching the US Navy close up like this, it is hard not to be slightly awed. No other navy in the world has quite the same toys, or shows them off with the same easy charm.
But as I stand on the deck filming my report on how “the US is practising for war with China”, I can see my host from the Navy public affairs office wincing.
You get used to hearing the PR rhetoric: the US Navy “is not practising for war with any specific country”. But the US Navy has not assembled two whole carrier battle groups and 200 aircraft off the coast of Guam for a jolly, either. This is about practising what the Pentagon now calls “Air Sea Battle”.
It is a concept first put forward in 2009, and it is specifically designed to counter the rising threat from China.
Like I said, a war between the United States and China is not going to happen in our immediate future.
But it would be a grave mistake to assume that it could never happen.
Over in China, their military operates under the assumption that a war between the two superpowers will definitely take place at some point, and the Chinese are working feverishly to figure out ways that they can come out on top in such a conflict.
Yes, the Chinese have become exceedingly wealthy selling us goods. In the process, we have lost thousands of businesses, millions of jobs and we now owe the Chinese more than a trillion dollars. The Chinese never intended to have a balanced and fair trading relationship with us, because it has always been their plan to emerge as the sole, dominant superpower on the entire planet.
Once our debt-fueled economy collapses, the Chinese won’t have too much use for us anymore. Instead, we will just be a barrier in the way of their goal of total global domination.
If you don’t think that the Chinese view us in this manner, just read some of the white papers produced by the Chinese government and the Chinese military. They do not consider us to be a “friend” at all. Rather, they consider us to be an enemy that must ultimately be vanquished.
Sadly, most Americans seem to assume that the global community is just one big, happy family these days.
In the end, we will likely pay a very great price for being so naive.
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Please. We've been in a cyber war for years/decades. It's easier and cheaper to steal innovation than to innovate.
Heading toward war...
China (and Russia) are not as likely to watch themselves rot as we may do here in the US. We are suffering war fatigue among our other more serious illness's. Even with the need for an economic war or maintaining hegemony or just pride or just that's what we have always done it will be a hard sell to this public. We are still stired by Wounder Warrior advertisements.
DOD Carter is pushing for a war stance but few see it as necessary as Europe is not overly concerned. So far it is all about "equipment" which has a smell of MIC.
Planned years in advance as was US entry into WWII by FDR:
http://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/history/item/4740-pearl-harbor-hawaii-was-surprised-fdr-was-not
It was long presumed that as the Japanese fleet approached Pearl Harbor, it maintained complete radio silence. This is untrue. The fleet barely observed discretion, let alone silence. Naval intelligence intercepted and translated numerous dispatches, some clearly revealing that Pearl Harbor had been targeted. The most significant was the following, sent by Admiral Yamamoto to the Japanese First Air Fleet on November 26, 1941:
The task force, keeping its movement strictly secret and maintaining close guard against submarines and aircraft, shall advance into Hawaiian waters, and upon the very opening of hostilities shall attack the main force of the United States fleet and deal it a mortal blow. The first air raid is planned for the dawn of x-day. Exact date to be given by later order.
Ain't no chink ever did thing one to me. But there are some folks who screw me every day.
World War 3 starts around 2020, get out of the cities now as they will all be nuked.
Thus says the "Publicus".
Just more proof that our laers are sociopaths.
Keep your pants on and quit advertising.
My relatives, who lived back then, were expecting war well ahead of Pearl Harbor. Some joined the navy to avoid certain drafting into the infantry. Granddad always liked to repeat FDR's promise in his reelection campaign of '40, 'if I'm reelected I won't send our boys off to die in another foreign war'. Granddad was drafted a few years later. He said there was more celebration among the ranks when they received news of FDR's death(4/12/45) than on V-E day less than one month later(5/8/45).
shkval vs mk48... place your bets.
I have a question about US Treasuries, such as China holds. I understand that in the event of war those bonds are canceled and the debt to China dissapears.
Question: what and where is the clearing house for this paper? What is the manner of accounting, ie: what is the auditing process that determines that Bank X has specific paper?
Thanks, in advance. I'm afraid I have a general answer.
I understand that in the event of war those bonds are canceled and the debt to China dissapears.
I doubt that. War does not have precedence over banking. The Germans continued to pay the Allies reparations for WWI throughout the course of WWII, believe it or not, because banking.
#13. The fudgepacker was relegated to the wives club at the Asia Pacific shindig......
...Because antagonizing a foe with an 'extra' 100 million single men is a good idea...
with over 25 million without a female match (1 child policy leftovers). That much testosterone is a potential WMD for both genders in a war.
Not necessarily if you staff your front line military human resources with females like the US military is now doing.
You may wind up with more fucking than fighting.
Yeah, unfortunately our girls will find out that fucking Chinese men is like eating Chinese food...
in 15 minutes they'll just be horny again.
Chinese food makes you horny?
We were always at war with Eastasia.
"The United States is bound by treaty "
Nuff said.
You've been warned.
The American Indians
Too funny.
Unholy hot wars make the best armchair viewing. I'm tired of these faux holy wars, especially when Vichy DC supply ISIS the means.
If China vs. USSA war happens I'm moving to China to be on the winning team.
you will miss katty perry grand final fireworks then.
This is what ZH loons actually believe...
and new basement warrior trolls like you believe the latter . lol . GETTING riled up in your parents basement ?
Oh, everyone loses that war, but it will probably be less mad max here afterwards.
East verses West is no different than Democrat verses Republican; all part of Agenda21. Hope you children or grandchildren are not drafted.
I'm still viewing a war between US citizens and US .gov as FAR more likely than a war between the US .gov and Red China.
Not going to happen.
The number of mounted troops was 200 million; I heard their number.
17 This is how I saw the horses in my vision: The horsemen had breastplates that were fiery red, hyacinth blue, and sulfur yellow. The heads of the horses were like lions' heads, and from their mouths came fire, smoke, and sulfur. 18 A third of the human race was killed by these three plagues-by the fire, the smoke, and the sulfur that came from their mouths. 19 For the power of the horses is in their mouths and in their tails, because their tails, like snakes, have heads, and they inflict injury with them. 20 The rest of the people, who were not killed by these plagues, did not repent of the works of their hands to stop worshiping demons and idols of gold, silver, bronze, stone, and wood, which are not able to see, hear, or walk.21 And they did not repent of their murders, their sorceries, their sexual immorality, or their thefts.
What the hell does this have to do with gay marriage? Caitlyn? Geez, people we are on the important issues in vichy DC.
Just cut the crap and tell me where Justin Beiber stands on this issue.
I'll ask him when he comes to...
DaddyO
refuse to be terrorized
Hard to get anything else from Michael Snyder.
"thousands of Chinese merchant ships are being retrofitted for military purposes" a sign of war? The guy needs to see a therapist.
My support and best wishes go to China.
There will be no near-term war with China, as Zion, and their DC US war dog, cannot afford it.
Zion still needs the DC US as they transition over to Europe and ZATO. They are also focused on securing the Ukrainian bread basket and Syrian Lebensraum.
Zion will keep FUDDing up the whole thing and then linking it to Russia, so as to continue riling up the sheeple against Russia.
Now later, all options are open.
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission..
But think of the Insurance Claims the will save from natural Disasters through war to kill people that could rise up against them.
My bet is the opposite.
They need a multiple of killing fields so that Chinese, Soviet, NATO, and US Patriarchs came come out in the light again in 30-120 years from now.
So what's your point? We have a Cold War on 3 fronts just as the doctor ordered.
Take a pill and call me in a week if you don't feel any better. Better yet, come on in so I can charge you for another office visit.
Hopefully, the Chinese have some nukes saved for Israel!
China and Israel are VERY close. Israel has supplied our military secrets to China for decades.
Israel steps up security ties with China
Israel and China find common ground in stepped-up security ties
By Christopher Bodeen, Associated Press
Thu, May 24, 2012
The improved ties have been highlighted by this week's visit to Beijing by Israel's military chief and a training mission to Israel by the Chinese paramilitary force that, among other things, polices the restive Tibetan and Muslim Uighur regions. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is expected to travel to China in the coming weeks.
http://chasvoice.blogspot.com/2011/12/israel-caught-selling-69-us-patrio...
"Iron Dome Defense Missiles Seized by Finland, Labeled “Fireworks”
69 Newest Patriot Missiles Seized on MS Thor Liberty
By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor
Finnish authorities have confirmed the seizure of 69 Patriot missiles manufactured by Raytheon Corporation today. During a routine search of the MS Thor Liberty, a ship flagged by the Isle of Man, at the Finnish port of Kotka, authorities found 69 Patriot missiles capable of a type capable of intercepting ICBMs, the most modern available and America’s most sensitive military technology."
US angered by Israeli missile sale
By ROBERT BURNS, AP National Security Writer, in Washington
19 April 2001
THE Pentagon is angry with Israel after it discovered the Chinese fighter jet that collided with a US reconnaissance plane over the South China Sea was carrying Israeli-made air-to-air missiles.
The Israelis notified Washington of the sale of the Python Three missiles to China only after the collision, Rear Admiral Craig Quigley said. He said Washington was opposed to the proliferation of such a capable weapons system.
"I think we would have preferred to know in advance (of the Israeli sale), but we didn't get that," Admiral Quigley said.
Israel is the largest recipient of US military aid - $3.77 billion this year - and has a mutual defence agreement with Washington. The countries' military forces frequently train together and co-operate in developing weapons systems.
Israel takes under false pretenses, then sells for a profit to China who seeks technical knowledge not armaments. Someting to think about. I do not see how that makes China and Israel VERY close, any more than it makes Congress and Russia VERY close when when Congress approves sales of enriched uranium to Russia for their reactors.
Seller Israel, under false pretenses acquires tech from US. US and Israel are VERY CLOSE. Israel sells/gives the tech to China for some "consideration". Israel and China re VERY CLOSE.
Is this transitive? US knew it was happening and did not complain (Duff is not the US, he is just one among us). Then US and China must be VERY CLOSE. Bad logic, bad assumptions.
Reverred Adm. Quigley so outraged that he actually said,
A Stunning show of moral and patriotic outrage! Duh.
But clearly there are unpatriotic powers committing Treason here in the USA for which TPTB will move to Protect no disarm.
- Israeli Spying
- French Spying
- Murdoch Contacts in China
- US Solar Technology Sales to China
- US Satellite Tech Sales to China
- US Weapons Technology & Weapons & Military Training transfer to China(Joint Military Training)
Is Murdoch an Israeli?
- Michael Polach Spy Trials
Congress approve sale if enrich uranium to tussia for their rractors . Eh ?? Dude Rusia has enough uranium to meet their deman . THEIR URANIUM reserves are more than ausdies .
Lol whatever and its russia rosatom which holds usa uranium reserves .
Snyder is a type that we are all too familiar with: HE COVERS FOR THE TRIBE.
But as to China, buying up property in USSA, filling our universities, the fastest growing race in the USSA.
WE ARE NOT ALL ALIKE!
In fact of all the races WE are the only humane race.
If you would like to know how Mexican women and children treat animals get Richard Grant's GOD'S MIDDLE FINGER.
He is an Englishman who lives in Tuscon Arizona, he WEPT...
Eateries in Chinese town hold dog and cat meat festival
Thousands of dogs and cats slaughtered at China festival
Sellers kept the dogs dozens to a cage before electrocuting and skinned them alive, before serving them with lychee
Dogs, in China, are considered dirty and vectors of disease. The piss and shit all over the place and many cities ban them and treat them as rats. China is a crowded place.
On the other hand, in China, pigs are considered clean. They eat excrement and they taste much better than dog or cat. There is a saying in China: "Pigs and Fish." Pigs and Fish both eat excrement. Think about that. Pigs and Fish are the tastiest meats!
It's like a saying we have in the West: "Cats and Dogs." This phrase refers to a nasty turn of weather--a heavy rainstorm not fit to go out into. Think about that.
Pigs and Fish, or Cats and Dogs.
Tell me about it. I actually thought Tilapia tasted like river bottom before I watched this;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGoR4dbE1os
Stories like this always cheer me up. not.
1# Stay out of there territorial business and just maybe we could expect the same.
2# loud mouth propaganda is nothin' but hot air.
3# No evidence to suggest the Chinese hacked our gov employee data. It could of easily been an inside job from a gov dept. that wants unfettered access to the data.
4# Massive what??? Nothing new, China or the USA conducting 'massive' military drills.... big deal!
5#, 6,7,8,9, 10, 11, 12. , China is developing new weapons and platforms... humbug... where have I heard this before. Nothing new, it is just another arms race.
and lastly, nothing is going to happen because it would be MAD. China will not bomb their best customer and we will not bomb our best gadget maker... hey look, a squirrel.
#11 At a time when the U.S. military is actually shrinking, Chinese military spending is increasing each year by double digits…
Well I guess Russia & USA use contractors, Volunteers, Private Military Armies, plus spooks or Assets that are blackmailed.
US Military is a Corporate MIC Complex. Hard to Define.
Let's say Zaibatsu or Keretsu.
Wait a minute !!
Each point is phrased to put the war-initiative on China. Bull Shit.
When has China been an international aggressor?
In what year of the past century was the US NOT an international aggressor?
Disinformation. The US "pivoted" to the area to assert its hegemony, not expecting China to assert a strong position on the South China Sea.
Anger in DC has been fabricated by those who own DC and its criminally minded thugs. Anger! Truth, Freedom, and Justice for all. Orwell rolls his eyes. The US is demanding the right to control the world or the US will resort to war, just as it has done for a century or more. The owners of the DC sock puppets are defining their path to a predetermined war with China, regardless of how China reacts to the South China Sea islands.
Today we are set on a path towards thermonuclear war with both China and Russia on the one and only principle that the US rules the world, not Russia and not China, and not anyone else. And the US rules the world ONLY AS THE HIRED THUGS.
Who Hired DC ?! Who hires the sock puppets ?! Who hires the secret assassination squads ?! Who directs the Drones ?! Who takes what they want whenever they want it ?! Who kills with impunity and without any shred of conscience ?!
Maybe it is a nation. Maybe a movement. Maybe a fascist (i.e., corporate bureaucratic fascism) "organization." Maybe the owners of the banks. Maybe the owners of secret technology. Maybe the masters of the secret and black economy. Maybe... something entirely different and unexpected ?
One thing for sure. We, the population, are either cannon fodder or we are the dirt they walk on.
fwiw:
China Counters Rothschilds in Asia
http://americanfreepress.net/?p=25391
"Part of this growing independence has also been allowing central banks in nations from Australia to Switzerland to begin issuing Chinese currency, the yuan."
Errrr... I don't think so.
And I find it kind of funny
And I find it kind of sad.
The dreams in which I'm dying are the best I've ever had
I find it hard to tell you
Cause I find it hard to take
When people run in circles...
It's a very, very mad world.
Tears for Fears
Well said.
In dreams of dying, always go through it to the end and awaken in the dream before the morning sun.
One of my favorite groups TT. Here is another:
Everybody wants to rule the world
Welcome to your life;
There is no turning back,
Even while we sleep we will find;
You acting on your best behavior.
Turn your back on mother nature,
Everybody wants to rule the world.
It's my own desire, it's my own remorse;
Help me to decide, help me make the most;
Of freedom and of pleasure;
Nothing ever lasts forever. (except Christ)
Everybody wants to rule the world.
I can't stand this indecision,
Married with a lack of vision,
Everybody wants to rule the world.
To true, I think, but hey, my telly is on the blink,
Got to get my fix, so I know what to think.
Thank you for the telly, as it is the world's shrink,
Thank you, may I have another.
Wild tree
When I'm walking,
I strut my stuff,
and I'm so strung out.
I'm high as a kite,
and I just might,
stop to check you out.
Maybe China's pissed off that WalMart is sending them fewer orders.
Before we accept the gov't's claim that we need to go to war with China, perhaps the gov't could first get around to explaining the many huge holes in its purported explanations about 9/11 -- which falsehoods sent us to Afghanistan and Iraq -- among other places. E.g., http://www.ae911truth.org/
A clever and cunning move by the US to get the Chinese to buy all their real estate, they're hardly going to bomb their own property are they.
There is no argument or war thoughts between the people of China and the US. There is only a continual war against the people by the leaders of both countries.
The governments would like nothing more than to get the people of their country hating and fighting the other.
Agreed, they call it Democide on the "Net".
THUS SAYS-HISTORY AND PROPHECY " CROCODILE"
$114 billion v. $600.4 billion.
That sounds like a lot, but the effective difference in the defense budgets may be far less than the numbers suggest. A significant part of the US budget is siphoned off by contractor fraud, worthless congressionally mandated pork weapon systems (e.g. super expensive F-35 planes that don't work), the use of high priced assets such as mercenaries (i.e., thugs) versus real soldiers, etc.
That doesn't even take into account the trillion dollar carrier battle groups that will all be on the bottom of the ocean 30 minutes after the war starts. It's wishful thinking to believe that the DF-21D antiship missiles won't be nuclear tipped. The pilots on those carriers don't appreciate that they are kamikazi pilots. When they get back to the radioactive oil slick where their carrier was, there will be no place to land and no fuel in their tanks.
It's hard to believe that the Chinese military system is as corrupt as America's, so whatever the real dollar disparity is, it's far less than the numbers indicate.
There's another major point that pertains to both China and Russia.
The forces required for offensive actions must be far greater than those for defence of a position.
Doesnt much matter, USreael must have its' war, if for nothing less than the trillions that have been stolen.
It's getting ripe.
No way china's military could be as corrupt as US... corrupition? in china? never!
How in the world is the US going to fight China? Invade the Chinese mainland? Drop some nukes on Hong Kong? Every war has been fought over territory. What Chinese territory is the US going to take over? Those islands in the South China Sea? It would be suicide to try to hold and re-supply them from the US.
First: you're not the one to die.
Second (and more important): what is the escape plan for the eternal banksters when TSHTF?
Rocky fellow soro zionists want they money or else, motha fucker!
Just glancing at the 12 Reasons...
Wanted to point out that if my home is destroyed by war, the insurance (TBTF probably) doesn't pay off on my equity.
Did anyone notice that before the Afghanistan war there were picture of Taliban destroying Buddhist or Ancient Ruins? I think this is just the physical sign that TPTB had placed Funding, Training, and Equipment in their hands through a proxy like the CIA. Meaning the relationship was set up.
What I am getting at is that the Oldest Relics and Writing are tablets in Sumer (Iraq) which also were targeted and destroyed. And this week we see more destruction of Ruins.
What if we Translated the half million tablets we know of and they said... the banks were corrupt, banks took control of the Bicameral Government System (Iraq) along with the wealthy land owners... and the people revolted and destroyed all the Sumerian Kingdoms. And what if this repeated is Assyria, Akkad, Babylon... then these Semitic people fled toward Egypt and Judea and Crete and the Mediterranean. You can find evidence that Social Programs, Bicameral Government, Silver Shekels, Bankers, Law, Value of Commodities, Education Systems, Medicine, Animal Husbandry, Agriculture, Wheat or the predecessor, Beer, Wine, Alcohol, Bitumen, Tar, Asphalt, Coal, all come from 6,000 years ago with the first Writing System, Accounting System, Law System, and Trade System.
"There is nothing New Under the Sun"
What if the Governments for 4,000 years have known that they have to depopulate, destroy libraries, destroy tablets, destroy laws, in order to secure their transition to a new Nation?
That is why we have no direct historical links. The wars of the Great Empires were told to destroy the Writings, destroy the culture, destroy the people.
So it is time again.
Now that we have transmitted our Technology to China and have suppressed our own Technology through this process to avoid wealth transfers to new Industries... Now it is time for War to cover up the Heavy Debts.
Would make A Great Novel.
Screw Protocol we need a time capsule installed in Arlington Cemetery to be guarded by the Honor Guard which details the Debts of the Major Banks of the World, The Hedge Funds, Private banks, Central Banks, and the Debts of the Many Countries Central Banks & Governments... along with the names of those Private and Public Executives.
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Bears know what I am talking about.
The Money trust, the Wealth Trust, the Dynasties, the Private Executives of this world have a way of Extracting Wealth and getting of Scot Free. What is the Answer?
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What? You can't see we are headed for a new Dark Ages? What is the best way to wipe all records now that they are all digital, saved on digital, archived on digital, and most Libraries are being downsized and Eliminated?? EMP Attack or Nuclear Strike would centralize all Libraries.
But I don't watch TV or MSM much, maybe I am all wrong.
The Chinese are not stupid, "Just Us" on the other hand may think that war solves a lot of their alleged problems.
What truly concernss me is the absence of daring, speed, and objective in American military training and mentality.
Don't confuse a raid against hapless old men, or men ensconced with their wives and children in the dark of night, as acts of daring. It takes months for the US to prepare for a raid even against such soft targets as these.
There is a palpable fear of close-in decisive combat when the fighting gets tough. Fallujah shocked the Marines. But it took nearly 6 months to prepare for the counter assault on Fallujah after that. America's military is afraid of the blitzkrieg, and reluctant to use ground combat forces (or in the case of the Navy, surface combat ships) as the leading edge of an attack. Neither the Chinese, the Russians, nor the Iranians expect the United States to wage war other than by aerial bombardment.
At least 4x in the past 2 years, the Russians have practiced deploying 150,000 men from one end of their vast country to the other in about 3 days' time. We talk for weeks about sending 300-400 men into "lily pads".
It is not the comparable array of weapons that we should worry about. It is the moribund "chessboard" mentality of our military leaders that should worry us.
Up to at least 1970, the United States military possessed the capability to deploy more than one hundred thousand men to anywhere in the world within about a week's time. (I was involved in a remote and meager way with the mobilization in response to the PLO-Jordanian crisis in 1970.) And this was when we already had almost half a million men in Vietnam and almost 400,000 men in Germany.
We have lost our "mojo". That is a much greater liability than numbers of missiles, tanks, combat ships or warplanes.
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I agree with the Gist of what you are saying things have changed.
But today we use Merchant Marines, and Chartered Air Planes to move our Military... and probably our equipment.
USA hates to say Nationalized. So we offer big contracts. But in a World War Scenario USA would Nationalize Oil & Gas Industries for Energy, Would provide Contracts for Shipping and Air Transportation, Would Institute a National Draft of Fighting Men (with Pharmaceuticals or Supplements to LEAN these FATTIES), a Draft reduces the National Budget Stress, ... My Prediction is that many Industries would be Nationalized in a World War to control the Cost... US Would seek to keep international trade and shipping to the USA, but that there would be some problems to degrade the US War Fighting Ability... This Changes the US Face to the World, but also Changes the Face of Government to the US People.
- Nationalized Energy Industry
- Nationalized Commodities
- US Draft of Personnel
- Cuts to the US Military to base level clothing, food, equipment
- National Recycling Programs, Metals, Plastics, Bottles, Textiles, Books, Paper, Lumber, Wood, Building Supplies
Today we wonder where the history is recorded, but in a World War we will lose track of where we think physical libraries used to be located (Psy-Op)
they were duped into believing those billion dollar wonder weaponry can save their fat asses. Yes We Can!
The author seems a little bit out of touch of reality in his blabbing!! First: China has always been a superpower. The fact that in the last century was out of the loop of superpowers, was very much an anomaly!!! Second: nobody is weakening the USA but itself. Our very expensive corporate moguls, in bed with defense high ranking officers (and most of government) are responsible for giving us weapons that have a real value worth a fraction of its ticket price... when those weapons work of course. It is not uncommon to have devices that beside being expensive are also slightly defective or fairly inefficient. F35 are a perfect example, but only because their inefficiency and cost goes beyond reality... Most of our equipment can impress third world countries at the most. We are deluded into thinking that we have the best military simply because we pay a lot for it... We are in full decline, and no one but ourselves is responsible for that... How do you say "thank you dumbass Americans" in Chinese? ;-)
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China WILL first take over Australia. Either roll in the military or by simply buying it up, then turning up one day to the pathetic parliament and telling them they have to install one of the party faithful.
How about we give them the top half and rights to the 60,000,000 kangaroos Australia has for food.
Nobody messes up with China.
China is destined to be the no.1 world leader.
In fact all nations colonized by evil west in past are only waiting.
Waiting to beat the western piratesHomosexuals&Looters to pulp and gloat at it.
Time has come.
Let Karma be paid
Let worshippers of Immortality reign over worshippers of Immorality.
onmail ..'Waiting to beat the western piratesHomosexuals&Looters to pulp and gloat at it.'
So very very funny, thank you
At the beginning of WWII it is said that a Japanese general predicted to the emperor that a war with the usa would be lost based on the production numbers.
Today the usa produces debt and central planning. It can not match Chinese production. All high tech in the USA is done by Chinese and Indian go getters. The cleaning and cooking is done by Mexicans. Americans all cow tow to uncle Sam to get some of the printed money.
Outcome would be clear.
so you're saying the high-end slaves are the chinks and curries, and the low-end slaves are Mexicans.
The US (and the West) doesn't really know which way is up.
Following Milton Freidman's ideas of maximising shareholder returns, nearly all Western manufacturing has been moved to China.
We now find China is very powerful, surprise, surprise.
Global super power status tends to follow the workshop of the world.
1800s - UK
1900s - US
2000s - China
The US and the West now realise what they have done.
Think of the nations with trade surpluses.
China and Germany, the manufacturing nations.
As the bankers only product is debt (loans/mortgages) it is easy to see why the US and UK are drowning in the stuff.
A large financial sector produces lots of debt, this is there only only product.
Spot on Batman
When has the USSA fought a real army?
The 1860's?
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Yes EVERYONE ! LETS FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT !
'Yes, the Chinese have become exceedingly wealthy selling us goods. In the process, we have lost thousands of businesses, millions of jobs and we now owe the Chinese more than a trillion dollars.'
LOL, sounds like the Chinese have already won, they have you in debt to them, so they control you as a debt serf to them, they have your peoples jobs, reducing you to a service economy and are currently buying up your Infrastructure, housing and land. Mean while you continue to spend hundreds of Billions of dollars each year on military spending under the illusion you are free, money that is actually printed/borrowed further weakening what is left of your economy.
Anyhow....lets hope I'm wrong, because my Mandarin gets a little rough after sumtingwong and waytolow .
A shooting war between U.S. and China will be brief because we will be unable to reload. All our tech is dependent on rare earth metals that China has under their complete control. https://youtu.be/cZhvO0FoopQ
Talking about war with China is not about preparing to win. It is keeping the spending going until we lose; bleeding to the last drop.