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Wealthy Greeks Slam "Incompetent Communists Ruining The Country", Demand EU "Save" Greece
Despite the market's exuberant hope that everything will be contained and business-as-usual will resume shortly in Europe, the message from the wealthiest Greeks is very different... As The FT reports, not since the nation's civil war has Greek society been riven by deep divisions between left and right as Greece's financial plight reopens old wounds. "The government are incompetent and are ruining the country because they are communists and do not understand reality," said Maria, a banker. "But there has to be a deal. The EU has to save us," she said, fingering her golden necklace. "Right?"
As The FT reports, for the affluent, life without the euro is almost unimaginable...
The single currency made it easier for them to send children to study abroad and purchase property and luxury goods elsewhere in Europe.
More than that, it distinguished Greece from its impoverished Balkan neighbours, confirming its place at the centre of a prosperous Europe. But as the crisis has dragged on, other Greeks — particularly supporters of the left-wing premier Alex Tsipras — increasingly equate membership of the currency with crippling public spending cuts and social inequality.
Until now, much of the country’s elite had assumed Mr Tsipras’s defiance to the country’s creditors was a calculated bluff to extract more aid from EU leaders fearful of the ramifications of a Greek exit from the eurozone.
But the wealthy Greeks are now revolting too...
But at the north Athens party, it was dawning on some that many Syriza supporters feel they have nothing to lose, and are therefore willing to take a leap into the unknown with a potential default rather than suffer the ignominy of a climbdown and more cuts to public spending.
“The working class with no money to spend and empty bank accounts . . . has nothing to lose,” said Patroklos Koudounis, founder of Adequate, a political risk consultancy. “Hence, they support the government and, as polls clearly show, half of them are in favour of a Grexit.”
Mr Koudounis found himself joining a pro-EU protest on Thursday night in central Athens, organised in response to a demonstration the night before by Syriza supporters. It was an act, he admitted, he “never would have ever imagined myself doing”.
“Those who have something — or a lot — to lose are becoming quite irritated,” he remarked. “They feel that they are under extreme danger and are now ready to get off the comfort of their couches and protest in the streets.”
Fear of what might come this week, including warnings of capital controls for Greek banks if no deal is reached on Monday, has prompted rich Greeks to move the bulk of their personal wealth and business accounts abroad, or hoard piles of cash in their homes.
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Because getting "bailed out" by Germany isn't communistic.
Just goes to show you the extent of mind conditioning people have gone through. Asking the socialists for help from the communists without facing any substantial cognitive dissonance. Good riddance.
NO, No!!!! That is just Progressive Socialism. The Germans are socialists with a capital "S" China and Russia are communists with a "C". One points a gun the picks your pocket.
Hm. ... Not so sure about that Russian Communism these days.
Do what they're doing in France (and the U.S.) - When the government makes employing people and running a business virtually impossible without paying off the government (EPA/IRS/NRLB/OSHA/FDA/DEA/etc) move to a country that wants jobs and business.
The availability of knowledge and information we currently have takes away all excuses for being ignorant of reality.
Time to sink or swim on your own merits, humanity. Nobody will have time or energy to give you empathy in the future that is coming, much less pity or charity.
KILL MARIA and remove her of her golden necklace.
1%ers protesting on the streets, this could be fun.
Boo Hoo
“Those who have something — or a lot — to lose are becoming quite irritated,” he remarked. “They feel that they are under extreme danger and are now ready to get off the comfort of their couches and protest in the streets.”
...And make themselves targets? Not bloody likely. The wealthy hire this kind of labour out...
Long ski masks and safe-busting equipment.
what is the address? i want to deliver a pizza.
Pizza delivery is by boat only.
Boats with those rod-holding thingies for the pitchforks.
" if I had a freighter, I'd freighter in the morning
I'd freighter in the evening ,
All over this land..................."
Thanks Pete In this case only.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl-yszPdRTk
fuck the rich. "how much for their daughters?" they need a good lesson in humility
"How much for the women? SELL ME YOUR CHILDREN."
Sounds like they're making themselves targets for guillotines...
"Let them snort coke."
let them snort CAKE
Those who still have a lot to lose and still are in the country are what they call the dumb money.
If they’re only waking up now... and will go to a central place... where everybody knows they have money... and where they will be surrounded by people... who have nothing and hate them...
Well...
good luck with that plan...
say hello to my dog that I had when I was a kid...
To the elite Greek scum that put Tsapiras in power, not leaving the Euro means your wealth will eventually get liquidated like the Czars' wealth, they don't even understand which side they're supposed to be on.
(hint Greek voters should vote for Greek sovereignty)
Tough choice:
A: Indepedent nation state
B: Vassal state being looted forever by an immigrant mob on behalf of the transnational non-state looter assn and cartel.
Greek voters: Duh I dunno
"The government are incompetent and are ruining the country because they are communists and do not understand reality," said Maria, a banker. "But there has to be a deal. The EU has to save us," she said, fingering her golden necklace. "Right?"
Wrong !
The previous governments were also incompetent and no communists.....
Both the EU and the previous governments drove the Greek into this situation which they are now in.
This governement is only 4 months old. .... and all the EU leaders got bleeding noses.
So Maria... your not the only one who doesn't pay their taxes. !
the govt is incompetent communists and they want help from EU?...wtf are they thinking? EU=communists too
Liberalism destroys everything that it touches, and is a severe mental disorder to boot...
And Libertarians worship a lesbo cunt who worshipped killers of little girls.
I'm libertarian {for the most part} and I have no use for Ayn Rand, because I happened to read a lot of philosophy, so she lacks the aura she has for a lot of econ/finance types who only read her..
but I also have no use for liberals who dont know much at all about libertarian thinking, distill it to "selfishness" and for whom every discussion is a chance to lecture people who likely have heard your argument 100 times.
You can either try to learn about a different worldview, or you can remain in an epistemic bubble over at Daily Kos...
Arrest them and redistribute their stolen wealth.
This is the same shit ZH has been posting for months. Chop off some bankers/politicians heads already.
You are opposed to points of view?
Sheep Dip! So the Proletariat and the Bourgeoisie are both committed to remain within the EU. What's the problem then?
Black Lifes Matter.
deep
Evidently not to them.
http://www.lifenews.com/2014/12/01/black-lives-matter-78-of-abortions-in...
http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/articles/2014-08-20/the-stark-statistics-on-...
But what does your comment have to do with the Greeks?
You trolling . topic changing a **hole.
I assume that you sold your name and time for less than my asking price of $60,000 USD.
Wouldn't doubt that some of those "wealthy Greeks" are Communists.
There is no such thing as a "pro-euro protest".
It is called a rally.
The author really ought to learn the difference.
Quick !! Look over THERE !!
It's a Whiney Banker crying all over her MONEY !!
But wait, .... what am I NOT supposed to SEE or HEAR ??
Next up: Money for The Ukraine !
Those wealthy Greeks just have to wait until the poor Greeks are made even poorer.
I hope they still feel so wealthy if they escape the Greek mobs alive with nothing more than the clothes they are wearing.
I read somewhere's that the small French investors were trying to get some compensation for their now worthless Tsarist Russian bonds way into the 1930's.
But then it was mostly unhedged bets back then.
Now sidebets,derivative time-bombs which cannot be allowed to be activated.
And if you are a large Bank,just demand a bailout : have the taxpayer take all that crappy MBS stuff off your books.
The Deutsche Bank fellows do not want to tell the German pensioners all their retirement money is gone.Also,next up for austerity,Spain and Italy.The price of borrowing money just went way up with the sovereign bond yields.Greece 2 yr @ 30% ? Hmmm.....
Right Maria - whatever...right after you finish clipping my toe nails.
If Europe is their oyster, what the fuck are they still doing in Greece?
Answer: in a normal country they'd get sent to prison for stiffing the government on their taxes.
Maybe our Maria should get her sweet self to her beloved Europe and stay there while the men clean up the mess she and her friends made, kleptocrats and communists both.
They are idiots. The EU and the IMF want their money back from Greece, don't care where they get it from. Since they are wealthy, the creditors will get it from them. Simple as that.
I'm so fed up with all this EU bullshit...Ireland took the opposite direction to Greece yet the problems remain (just under the surface). The euro project is doomed but it will limp on for years crisis after crisis.
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These Greeks have a point. The commies have been running the country into the ground for so long, giving government workers 13 months worth of pension per year and other extravagancies.
The rich are going to be targeted and, as ever, the definition of "rich" shall be defined downward until it includes everyone.
Eject the EU. Eject the rich. Eject the debt. Eject the banks. Eject the commies. Eject the government. Eject all foreign organizations and representatives.
Then post this message everywhere: you're all on your own people. Make your lives work, and don't expect anyone else to help you. But immediately exterminate anyone who attempts to enslave you, control you, harm you, tax you, etc.
There, fixed Greece for you.
said Maria, a banker
Fucking cunt!
banker? What has this cunt added to the economy? This bitch ruined the whole of Europe and America.
"More than that, it distinguished Greece from its impoverished Balkan neighbours, confirming its place at the centre of a prosperous Europe. But as the crisis has dragged on, other Greeks — particularly supporters of the left-wing premier Alex Tsipras — increasingly equate membership of the currency with crippling public spending cuts and social inequality."
Really? Then explain Portugal, Ireland, and Spain. These were not third world countries but have been impoverished just as much as Greece was by the EU, Euro, ECB, and rule of technocrats.
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain (It's time to toss the dice)
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