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Blacks are 13% of US population 37.6% of prisoners and 71% of shooters in Chicago
Over the last couple of years, one of the dinner discussions our family has had relates to the observation that many, if not most, of the alleged perpetrators of violent crimes whose photographs appear in the mugshot section of our local newspaper's crime report are black. We live in a very white area of what used to be rural farms and ranches, but is now being quickly developed with multi-family housing and strip malls. A large metropolitan city is a short drive.
The kids and wife have asked me, "Why do you think it is, dad, that the murderers and robbers are usually black?" How is a dad supposed to answer this?
First, I wanted to look at more data than just the police report of our local paper. What I found is that blacks are 13% of the US population, 37.6% of the US prisoner population, and 71.5% of the shooters in Chicago.
| White alone, percent, 2013 (a) |
77.7% |
| Black or African American alone, percent, 2013 (a) |
13.2% |
| American Indian and Alaska Native alone, percent, 2013 (a) |
1.2% |
| Asian alone, percent, 2013 (a) |
5.3% |
| Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander alone, percent, 2013 (a) |
0.2% |
| Two or More Races, percent, 2013 |
2.4% |
| Hispanic or Latino, percent, 2013 (b) |
17.1% |
| White alone, not Hispanic or Latino, percent, 2013 |
62.6% |
Inmate Race in US Prisons
| Race | # of Inmates | % of Inmates | |
|---|---|---|---|
| Asian | 3,182 | 1.5% | |
| Black | 78,112 | 37.6% | |
| Native American | 3,945 | 1.9% | |
| White | 122,771 | 59.0% |
Race of Victim/Assailant 2015 Chicago
| Race | Victim | Assailant |
|---|---|---|
| Black | 154 | 35 |
| Hispanic | 37 | 8 |
| White/Other | 10 | 5 |
| Police | - | 1 |
| As of 6/19/15 |
Next, I started to watch and read some popular news reports and articles on the internet about black violence. I challenge each reader to make it through just the following five:
9 Year Black Boy Old Punches, Kicks, and Chokes Toddlers at Daycare
10 Year Old Black Girl Attacks Teacher
Two 15-year-old black boys charged with murder
Three black teenagers charged with murder in the death of 16 year-old.
First-round NBA pick shot and killed 22-year-old mother of four.
Finally, I asked a black sheriff if the notion that most murderers and robbers are black fits with his observations and experience. He responded, "You gotta judge people individually."
I told him that I agree, and that I am not judging anyone. I asked him, again, "Does the notion that a majority of murders and robberies in your jurisdiction are committed by blacks fit with your observations and experience?" He paused, stared at me, and said, "Yes."
I asked him if he had an opinion as to why this might be the case, since blacks make up a small minority of the population. I told him that my wife and kids have been asking me these questions.
He said, "You need to watch yourself. You need to be real careful." Then the black sheriff's deputy put his hand on his sidearm, stared at me for a moment, turned around, and walked away.
So, this is where I find myself as an American trying to ask one hard question about race and violence in America.
Why do you think it is that the murderers and robbers are usually black? Is it the case where you live? How is a dad supposed to answer this question? Are your wife and kids even able to ask it? Are we as a nation even able to ask it?
Peace.
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Perhaps black crime is reported more often than other races? What are the crime statistics in predominantly white areas? Who are committing the crimes there and are they at the same intensity? Did you look into that data to add more "color" to your examination, HH?
Why are blacks in America such a broken people? Is it because they were brought here and then broken?
Do African crime statistics match black American statistics? Even Africans don't like American blacks. So this is obviously not a race thing. It's a cultural thing, and it's a distinctively American cultural thing. It has nothing to do with race or color, but our culture, inherited from centuries of slavery.
Yes, this isn't rocket science.
I am Chumbawamba.
This is the real question Chumbawamba.
Why are blacks in America such a broken people?
They are the unwanted step-child of the crazed, psychotic state. They serve a purpose. The threat is - you better get your ass in gear or you will wind up like them ... the Other.
LOL, you are a moron
He's not the lone ranger around here...
" It has nothing to do with race or color, but our culture, inherited from centuries of slavery."
This is an assertion, not a fact.
I thought the point of the essay was wrestling with we could ask the question in an adult way.
You're just dumping out your assumptions , discounting any contrary idea, and proclaiming it as fact.
That's not science, mate.
That's political worldview masquerading as science.
There is nothing scientific about this article either... it is also a worldview masquerading as... something fucked up.
Right. Unless you're a geneticist, and know everything there is to know about the genome, which no one does, then don't just up and proclaim 'it has nothing to do with race.' You are a super nice, politically correct guy, but you're not being scientific.
As an aside, culture is not that indelible. If you go the same schools, watch the same TV, do basically everything together, your culture should be basically the same in a generation or so. And yet it's not, and it never has been, and it never will be. Unfortunate.
Right, like black and white people have always "done everything together". Dumb ass.
Since most blacks are less than two centuries removed from mud huts and witch doctors, is it not surprising that they haven't adjusted to what white people call "civilized life"?
Two cases in point: A few months ago, I am trying to pull out of a parking spot. A car, driven by a black woman, is blocking me. There are no empty spots for her, so the intelligent thing is to back up, let me out, and take my space. Every white person I've ever known would see that and do it immediately. This woman sits there. I get out of my car and motion for her to back up. She sits there. I go over to her car and (not very nicely) point out that neither of us are going to go anywhere until she moves. She looks at me and sneers "What are you gonna do?". I told her I was going to spit on her. She says "Go ahead", so I load up a huge loogie and spit in her face. ONLY THEN does she back her car up and let me out. Now this woman was nicely dressed, and had a late model car, so she was no welfare queen. I repeat:No white person would ever do this.
Second: Last week, I'm on the subway. There are two doors leading from the bus platform to the subway platform. One door is blocked by people coming from the subway to the bus. The second door has a 12-15 year old black boy (who can tell?) standing in front of it. I assume for a second the door is locked, but as he just stands there, I try the door. It opens, and immediately hits the boy's foot. I ask him "Would you please move?" to which he replies "I don't have to do what you tell me". I miss my train by 3 seconds. No white, Asian, or Hispanic person I've ever known would do this.
If anyone wants to contend that these are the actions of civilized people, I'd like to hear their reasons.
Yeah spitting in a woman's face, now that's civilized.
Once again, what would YOU have done, oh lordly one? Sat in your car like a castrated calf? I am sick to death of you fucking Monday morning QB's who are ready to call me names but only one of you has had the decency to state how they would have dealt with the situation, however unrealistic I think their solution was.
I will care about your opinion when you grow a pair.
LOL! I've had several exp's similar to that. I've also witnessed a few. They are the text book definition of mule headed. The last one was where this sheboon came flying into a parking lot on the wrong side. Two white women in another car, heading out didn't fell they should back up for someone on the wrong side, so they honked their horn and motioned for her to get on her side. Instead of getting over, she jumped out of her Ford Explorer, in the middle of the entrance to the parking lot and said, "I'm gonna beat yo white asses". The white women had their windows up and drove over the curb to get around her while she pounded on their small car. Just a baboon with a driver's license.
is it not surprising that they haven't adjusted to what white people call "civilized life"?
I told her I was going to spit on her. She says "Go ahead", so I load up a huge loogie and spit in her face.
So, according to your logic then you are black.
You can call him , "Rachel." He's transeverything.
You sound like a completely awful person.
I am Chumbawamba.
I think he sounds right on! I'll bet you everything that I own, against your $10, that on the day that nut killed those 9 innocent people in the church, in South Carolina, there were more whites killed by savage acts of negros on that very same day. Where, pray tell, might we read about this. Not in our media. Not from our racist Justice Dept. We are afraid to even use the term negro. If the Battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia, must now be removed from public grounds, how about we disband the Black Congressional Caucus, in response to the wanton violence by 3.5% of our population.
Yeah, keep reacting and playing the race game. The PTB love it when you so readily adapt to their programming.
I am Chumbawamba.
Feel free to bend over and take to the hilt. I won't complain for you.
Nothing is gained by seeking confrontation, but there is plenty to be lost from backing down from it. Life is war, push and pull. We must all learn to choose our battles wisely, but we must also be prepared to take a stand against direct confrontation, for if not, it will only get harder to do in each consecutive event. Conservatives have seen their position forced back under the pressure of political correctness, we have conceded on every front, mostly to the blame of our elected leaders who have lied continuously for many decades. Some are small things and some are not but they all add up. Each small thing is derided as a small thing of no consequence, and then comes the next. The slippery slope that so many have warned of has been simultaneously derided and ignored, and now we find ourselves HERE.
The black attitude has changed since Obama. I live in a predominantly black city and I have seen it and commented on it. After Obama, black drivers would not hesitate to cut you off in traffic and take liberties with courtesy as I have never seen in sixty years. Nothing earth shattering yet noticeable. A sense that they don't have to show courtesy to anyone, especially to white folk. I understand it somewhat and am not terribly bothered about it. I think it is somewhat just common arrogance that we see from many groups who feel like winners for a change. I hoped that it would pass, that they would come to their senses and understand courtesy is a necessary component of a civilized world, and not the attitude of victor and submission. It has not passed. It has only worsened with all of the racial crap that Obama has pushed. You would think that a black man who was elected by white people who want to use this opportunity to heal racial divisions and implore his people to seek harmony and not strife, but as we know, there is no political advantage to that.
We had a black man blow the back window out of a white women's car with a 45 (multiple shots) because he said she cut him off. She claimed he was stopped in the middle of the road with flashers on and she honked and passed him by, subsequently he chased her down and tried to kill her (bullet holes through the windshield inches from where she sat). A CHL holder (no more) so not some banger type. Just mad and feeling entitled to reach out and touch someone.
Tensions are rising for everyone. It is being fomented, it is not organic. There are people who want this to happen, to get worse. They are not all on the same team but they have similar goals. Destruction and chaos are an important tool in all power seeking agendas. It is important for us to stand our ground, to resist force and confrontation, but not to do it in such a way as to empower those who hope for violence and destruction. Many times it is enough to just say NO.
the race game would end if the crappy behavior was consistently condemned from within the community. the niggers are being encouraged to behave badly by leaders in their own community who should know better. i cannot, and do not want to act or think from the perspective of this PC 'state' - so my perspective will remain that which can only be based on one individual's perspective.
the system wants racism, but the system also wants victims. i refuse. in fact, the moral imperative that i disavow racism is based on the same ethos which morally demands personal accountability by all individuals and recognizes self defense.
if you can't get your head around that, i suggest removing it from up your ass.
And in this thread you sound like a judgmental moron.
Yeah, I did make a judgment. It doesn't make me a better man.
What he wrote was complete hearsay: it's just a story. The alleged woman in this story is not here to represent her side. So the fact that he ended the tale, fact or fiction, with him spitting in the woman's face tells me everything about his character.
Upon his own words I made a judgment. You will fault me for that?
I am Chumbawamba.
Some people are still so confused by this place.
It's Fight Club, not pussy philosophy dicussion circle-jerk.
Did some psychopath need an ideological ass kicking? Yes. Did chumbawamba administer? Yes.
End of story.
Eight down-arrows to chumba's comment? Geeze - I would't have expected the FBI-Klux-Klan to be so interested in inciting racial hatred. Don't tell me they're all butt-hurt because the 'terrorism' thing isn't working out to well for them anymore. Boo hoo - those ZH fuckers are mean! Let's go down-arrow their ass!
Chumbawamba - please PayPal my $5 to the usual account. Thx.
Fight club? A bunch of racist monkey typing? Give me a fucking break.
Define "racism".
See, I don't believe in ism's. Just because someone calls someone else a nigger, doesn't mean the former is a racist. It could be that the latter really is a nigger.
I am Chumbawamba.
Please tell me, Chump, what you would have done in case 1. Sit there for an hour, trying to outwait her? Call the cops, have them laugh at you, and then wait more than an hour for them to show up? I am truly interested in what a not "completely awful person" should have done.
Case 2 - Do you regularly go out of your way to prevent other people from going about their business? Why do you defend people who do?
I have worked with hundreds of blacks in my life, and there are many who are decent people, doing their jobs, raising a family, and acting like anybody else. However, there is a sizeable percentage who demonstrate the type of behaviour I described. Since the downside of assuming a civilized black is savage is zero, and the downside of assuming a savage black is civilized is high, prudence says treat them like savages until they show you civilized behaviour.
There is an age old adage which I think sums up this point nicely.
Around blacks
Never relax.
Remember it; could save your life someday.
No, I am Chumbawamba, Chump is another ZH guy.
I don't have to say anything about this that Richard Pryor in the 1970s, Eddie Murphy in the 1980s, and Chris Rock in the 1990s said already: there are black people, and then there are niggers.
An honorable man might have let her be the simpleton and just found another parking spot. Why lower yourself? You spat on a woman for not moving her car. You were both equally stupid. You both acted like niggers.
I am Chumbawamba.
Every Race and Ethnic Group have their share of scum.
Hence, why you hear the various forms of the N-word applied.
I'm in the minority here; but I refer those classifications to the treacherous, thieving, usurious, scum - regardless of their Source of Income or Wealth.
Eg., Bean N*
White/Meth N* , Wh* , or White Trash
Rice N*
Sand N*
An honorable man might have let her be the simpleton and just found another parking spot.
Clearly your reading comprehension skills need an upgrade. I was already IN a parking spot, trying to leave. There were NO other parking spots, and no one else was around, suggesting there would be no other open spots in the immediate future. She had purposely moved her car to the centre of the aisle where she was blocking me (rather than go to the left or right side of the aisle, which would have let me pull around her). I needed to get back to work after seeing my doctor; I didn't have an hour to sit there and wait for her to become civilized.
And I didn't just walk up and spit on her. I asked her to move, she said "What you gonna do?", and I told her what I would do. Then SHE INVITED ME TO DO JUST THAT. So I did. In my opinion, she thought I was another effete, castrated, gutless white guy who'd get all frustrated and turn red in the face and jump around like an idiot, screaming and shouting but DO NOTHING. Instead, I showed her that I was as good as my word, and once she saw that, she put her car in reverse.
Do you understand now, Chump?
Again, I am not Chump, I am Chumbawamba.
You are correct, I did not read your posting properly. Please forgive me.
Given the circumstances as I believe I now correctly understand them, I would not have lowered myself to spitting on another person, which is assault and battery, as she easily could have turned it around on me. And you know how sympathetic the system is to black people, right? They would take her story over mine, a white(ish) dude (actually Syrian). Plus, it's just an ugly thing to do.
My solution would have been to use my car to simply push hers out of the way after ample notice. I would have recorded the exchange on the digital video recorder I keep in my car for legal purposes. After three notices and her continued inaction, I would then use my car to simply push hers out of the way in some manner that minimized damaged to my car.
This is all theory of course. I've never had to deal with that kind of nigger before, thankfully.
I am Chumbawamba.
Well, thank you for admitting you didn't read my post properly the first time.
However, you still missed a point - I did NOT commit "assault". She asked me what I was going to do, I told her, and she said "GO AHEAD". That is consent. And luckily, there was another white guy who was also blocked in, but just standing there, as a witness.
I do not think I could have gotten my minivan out of my spot, and moved around to a point where I could have pushed her car (but it's over a year ago, so it might have been possible). Even so, I know with today's crappy bumpers there would have been damage to the car that would have cost me a couple of thousand to fix. And I don't keep a digital recorder in case I have to deal with some uncivilized trash; luckily, in Canada, there's not as much of it as there are in other places.
I agree spitting on people is not polite. But, as I tried to point out earlier, I think she felt "Ha, I got this fat ofay trapped. Let's see him get all mad and angry, and watch him jump around like an idiot. He won't actually DO anything - he's just a gutless whiteboy. When he runs out of steam and it ain't funny anymore, I'll let him out." But I refused to play my role. Someone above posted about how blacks are so concerned about "disrespect" and how quickly they turn violent. She figured I was white, and didn't play that way, but I chose to play my part EXACTLY as a black man would have. Spitting on her, while I agree it's an "ugly" thing to do, was the least permanent, least aggressive (as opposed to, say, getting a tire iron out of my car, and denting her hood), and IMHO most effective way to end the situation, which in the event, it was.
Finally "This is all theory of course. I've never had to deal with that...before, thankfully."
Me either. And I don't want to do it again. But if someone is depending on me being a sheep and just sitting there and taking their crap, they are in for a surprise.
Capiche?
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My solution would have been to use my car to simply push hers out of the way after ample notice. I would have recorded the exchange on the digital video recorder I keep in my car for legal purposes. After three notices and her continued inaction, I would then use my car to simply push hers out of the way in some manner that minimized damaged to my car.
This is all theory of course. I've never had to deal with that kind of nigger before, thankfully.
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kinda thinking that using your car to push hers is called assault with a deadly weapon. wouldn't advise it.
if it were me, I would take out one of her tire valves and ask her to move, then go to the next tire. being a gentleman, once she moved, i would put the valve back in and pump up her tire as a courtesy.
That's the purpose of the notice (recorded for evidentiary purposes, if necessary). If she refuses to move her car and is blocking my egress, that is false arrest and false imprisonment, both crimes. I would be well within my rights to move her car in as safe and nondestructive a manner as possible to escape from this de facto kidnapper. If my life was in danger then I'd be within my rights to use deadly force. But I wouldn't do what you suggest, that's conversion and destruction of property.
-Chumblez.
Centuries of slavery? Where the fuck have you been for the last 150 years?
Hey man, the fact that their grandparents grandparents grandparents may have at one time been made to do work by the white man explains completely and beyond any question their failure as a race in academia and their violent / criminal tendencies.
I don't think there is anyone disputing the fact that this is 100% the fault of white males just like everything else wrong with the world.
"Centuries of slavery? Where the fuck have you been for the last 150 years?"
"...man is free, we say, who exists for his own sake and not for another's,"
-http://genius.com/Aristotle-metaphysics-book-1-annotated/
Is counterfeit exchanged by thieves to underwrite a government's debt?
Is the collateral offered as the backing of this debt the result of future labor performed by citizens?
Are citizens subject to a direct tax that is then used to pay back the debt holders?
Are you living for your own sake or for another's?
Mostly not in existence, to the best of my knowledge.
Focus on the keywords here: "broken". This is a broken people, and a distinctly American tribe.
Go to Africa and try to find a nigger.
-Chumblez.
Go to Africa and try to find a civilization.
Geez, this isn't rocket science.
Actually, crime and violence is considerably worse in South Africa and Nigeria (to mention just two of many) than any inner city in America.
If a culture values delay of gratification, self-discipline etc. those lucky members of said culture will be more properous, less self-indulgent, less likely to blame others for their own shortcomings and willing to preservere through the difficulties of life.
I'd love to see the statistics by race for the marshmellow test for 3-4 year olds. It is the single best predictor of future income, happiness, good decision making and the ability for the executive portion of the brain to override the reptilian portion. So, the ability of a 4 year old to not eat a marshmellow in order to get two marshmellows in the future is the secret to staying out of jail, being productive, saving for the future, living within ones means etc. I'm guessing the statistics for that marshmellow test follow very closely the crime statistics by race. Its all about culture, baby!
Try this theory.
I believe that most people who came to America in the first few hundred years, and many still today, did so as they were trying to escape tyranny and seeking someplace where they could work hard and actually keep what they earned, own property and advance themselves and their family. This would be an important subset of existing society and would suggest to me that those who chose to stay at home were possibly less motivated to this level of personal freedom, and if genetics play any role in human behavior, this trait could possibly still hold some dominance here and possibly explain some of why we see such differences between Americans and Europeans.
On the same note, might is be true that those Africans who were captured and enslaved and sold to slave traders were maybe, lets say, the less inclined to resist, run off or die trying. When the southern farmers first started out they found the field work hard. They attempted to hire and then enslave the native Americans but they simply ran off. One of the desirable traits of African slaves was that while they had a higher tolerance for heat and labor, they were also less inclined to run off. Many of the slave owners that were arguing for slavery firmly believed that these people were an inferior race incapable of caring for themselves and their own best interests. They saw it as a Christian thing to do to keep them in bondage for their own protection (and enriching themselves wasn't such a terrible thing either (doing God's work)). This parallels the historical Democratic political platform for years after the civil war up until desegregation and beyond. This also might explain the tendency of many blacks to be predisposed to a dependency lifestyle, something they have been largely indoctrinated with for many generations and possibly reinforcing genetic predispositions as well.
We live in modern times where scientists would have us believe our genes determine almost everything about us, from the color of our eyes to our intelligence, yet the divisiveness of political gamesmanship precludes us from suggesting that it may well help define our mental perspectives as well.......unless possibly you are a genetic throwback that will furiously work to get ahead against all headwinds, taxation and degradations (obviously defective).
The early settlers tended to be individualists, the ones that stayed home tended to be collectivists. Later immigrants tended to be collectivists and over the years, they displaced the individualists. That brought about the current awful state of America.
Primitives, like animals in nature, didn't exert much more effort than what it would take to stay alive, perhaps 5-10 hours a week. Sort of like a welfare recipient or a government worker. In a zero sum environment, that was optimal.
Slavery is an inefficient economic model and workers with a poor work ethic make it even worse. Government is a form of slavery, the US is a plantation writ large, and more and more people are rediscovering the free shit life of the primitives.
I actually have no problem with the exploitation of those who, by apathy or by unapologetic ignorance, choose to be "steaks on the table".
I am Chumbawamba.
With regards to your first paragraph, Africa is a big place (much bigger than Mercator Projection maps imply) with a diverse climate. It could be that Africans who weren't having a good time of it where they were could easily just migrate to some other part of Africa, rather than have to build ships to traverse oceans. Europe is relatively small, and there's only so much square footage. And with the propensity of European royalty to want to own everything, there perhaps was more incentive for European whites to uproot themselves and traverse great bodies of water to get away from a bunch of douchebags and own a piece of dirt of their own.
With regards to your second paragraph, is it reasonable to suggest that perhaps the southern farmers learned from their experience with the natives and employed better management techniques with their African slaves? I don't discount the very plausible idea that Africans make better slaves. They certainly seem to make better athletes based on their predominance in all major sports (US) sports...Jimmy the Greek basically got skewered for saying basically the same thing back in the 1980s (actually he more specifically said blacks make better athletes because they are descended from slaves who were bred for physical attributes, and he was right). If we are going to speculate on inherent traits then it's also worth considering that Africans are more susceptible to Stockholm Syndrome. Your last point I believe is on target: a dependency lifestyle imbued deliberately across multiple generations. I believe that has a bigger role to play here than anything else. In France it's the Arabs. In Germany it's the Turks. In every country there seems to be a despised underclass seen to be leaching off the system. Why is this? A deliberate plan by an exploitative class or just the way life shakes out?
With regards to your last paragraph, as with all things it's not quite one or the other on the macro scale. There is predetermined attributes in each person that manifest differently based on environment.
-Chumblez.
Do genetics predetermine any behavioral attributes? We sure seem to think it does in animals and it drives billions of dollars in investment and research. Ask how much a triple crown sire is worth. No one can say that genetics will predetermine all behaviors, but surely it can create at least a predisposition relative to environments. But say this in public and watch your head roll on the pavement.
There is no doubt we must be careful with this, and there is a potential for abuse by real racists and haters of all folds, but to simply DENY is foolish on its face and depreciates any meaningful solutions. Like solving fuel shortages by over inflating your tires. At this rate we will never know. We do know that due to the genetic predisposition of bears what happens when we feed them in the parks. Or is that hating on the bears?
I agree.
I think at some point, however, intelligence can override genetics. Once an intelligent being becomes cognizant enough to realize that one was bred for a purpose, or has certain genetic traits, one can, with will power, act contrary to their genetic design. This then gets to the metaphysical: once one reaches a higher level of awareness, a greater design becomes apparent, and transcendence of consciousness becomes attainable.
-Chumblez.
taking what you just said and adding that iq and deductive reasoning matters(survival). we are all born to be only so smart (by modern standards evolved in the sciences, lauguage, to name a few), so it would make sense to say we are not created equel and it eventually shows up in life. i am always in awe at how many people are smarter than me. and also another thought-what races have invented and created things that have brought us to where we are? engines, oil products, farm machinery, ect ect. not saying where we are is ok though, but it is a reality we live in. seems that most enjoy the rewards of a few one way or another. what races predominatly pull the wagon?
why is that? cultural and to be judged against all races...
Every race and culture has pulled the wagon at one point or another; the Arabs, the Chinese, the Africans...when one region of earth was experiencing a dark age, another was flourishing.
At every point in history, one group conquered and ruled another, and there is no difference today. Eventually, Americans will wake up to realize that they, too, are a conquered race, and their master is, collectively, the European Banksters. From the Sumerian kings to New York financiers, there is nothing new under the sun.
I am Chumbawamba.
I am not suggesting that any specific race may have a specific trait, only that certain subset characteristics might be associated within specific subsets or groups and that those groups may be centered about certain geographical areas that have occurred over time and/or due to migration patterns or other causes.
If only people that have a disposition towards independence would leave the comfort or complacency of their homes to venture abroad to face significant hardships, why would we assume that this is not attributable in some part to genetic predisposition, especially when we live in a time where they attempt to determine every other thing to genetics. Rightly so, most races and cultures have experienced some level of success over time, but for many, it is their time that defines their success, and times change. what might be a positive attribute in 200 ad, might not be so great today. Further, if we are to believe in evolution, we have suggested that many species have had their day in the sun and then perished from the face of the earth.
I am no scientist.My problem is that we are not allowed to have these discussions without retribution. The same people who will deride us for questioning global warming, for denying their science will tell us it is hate speech to ask these questions. We can see a black man killed by a white and it is a travesty, yet anyone who publicly suggests that black on black crime, much less black on white crime has deeper roots, and in anyway tries to present any supporting facts or theories is a racist hater.
For sure, Holder was right. we are cowards about conversations of race, because when we do, we get our heads crushed. Any attempt to explain these issues that does not put the blame squarely on the heads of white men, is verboten and to be punished. When we talk of freedoms, this is exactly what we are dealing with.
Oh god, fuck Holder.
Anyway, if you're going to go there, I would argue that it is ultimately personality traits based on astrological sign that are the prime factors in the migration of a people (yes, I'm serious). Most people are wont to just stay in one place. It's always that one guy who sells everyone else on the vision, or who drags them along whether they like it or not.
But yes, genetic predisposition does play a large role in how a collective people act. Tangetially, America is different. America is more an idea than a country: you either think American or not, where American = an independent thinker with a live and let live disposition fiercely protective of their liberties and mindful of their neighbor's (as far as I'm concerned anyway).
-Chumblez.