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Blacks are 13% of US population 37.6% of prisoners and 71% of shooters in Chicago

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Over the last couple of years, one of the dinner discussions our family has had relates to the observation that many, if not most, of the alleged perpetrators of violent crimes whose photographs appear in the mugshot section of our local newspaper's crime report are black.  We live in a very white area of what used to be rural farms and ranches, but is now being quickly developed with multi-family housing and strip malls.  A large metropolitan city is a short drive.

Brandon Smith (left) and Tyfine Hamilton (right) have been charged with the murder of James Stuhlman in a botched robbery

The kids and wife have asked me, "Why do you think it is, dad, that the murderers and robbers are usually black?"   How is a dad supposed to answer this?

First, I wanted to look at more data than just the police report of our local paper.  What I found is that blacks are 13% of the US population, 37.6% of the US prisoner population, and 71.5% of the shooters in Chicago.

 

Race of US Population

 
White alone, percent, 2013 (a)
77.7%
 
Black or African American alone, percent, 2013 (a)
13.2%
 
American Indian and Alaska Native alone, percent, 2013 (a)
1.2%
 
Asian alone, percent, 2013 (a)
5.3%
 
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander alone, percent, 2013 (a)
0.2%
 
Two or More Races, percent, 2013
2.4%
 
Hispanic or Latino, percent, 2013 (b)
17.1%
 
White alone, not Hispanic or Latino, percent, 2013
62.6%

 

 

Inmate Race in US Prisons

Race # of Inmates % of Inmates
  Asian 3,182 1.5%
  Black 78,112 37.6%
  Native American 3,945 1.9%
  White 122,771 59.0%

 

From http://heyjackass.com/

Race of Victim/Assailant 2015 Chicago

Race Victim Assailant
Black 154 35
Hispanic 37 8
White/Other 10 5
Police - 1
As of 6/19/15

 

Next, I started to watch and read some popular news reports and articles on the internet about black violence.  I challenge each reader to make it through just the following five:

9 Year Black Boy Old Punches, Kicks, and Chokes Toddlers at Daycare

10 Year Old Black Girl Attacks Teacher

Two 15-year-old black boys charged with murder

Three black teenagers charged with murder in the death of 16 year-old.

First-round NBA pick shot and killed 22-year-old mother of four.

 

Finally, I asked a black sheriff if the notion that most murderers and robbers are black fits with his observations and experience.  He responded, "You gotta judge people individually." 

I told him that I agree, and that I am not judging anyone.  I asked him, again, "Does the notion that a majority of murders and robberies in your jurisdiction are committed by blacks fit with your observations and experience?"  He paused, stared at me, and said, "Yes." 

I asked him if he had an opinion as to why this might be the case, since blacks make up a small minority of the population.  I told him that my wife and kids have been asking me these questions. 

He said, "You need to watch yourself.  You need to be real careful."  Then the black sheriff's deputy put his hand on his sidearm, stared at me for a moment, turned around, and walked away.

So, this is where I find myself as an American trying to ask one hard question about race and violence in America.

Why do you think it is that the murderers and robbers are usually black?  Is it the case where you live?  How is a dad supposed to answer this question?  Are your wife and kids even able to ask it?  Are we as a nation even able to ask it?

Peace.

 

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Tue, 06/23/2015 - 16:08 | 6226776 Anusocracy
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It took the Russians 50 generations of SELECTIVE BREEDING to produce a domesticated Siberian fox. Very nice looking pet with a curled tail.

There has not been any selective breeding nor enough time to produce a "a distinctly American tribe" of blacks, but you are right about them being "a broken people", even though most other people are also broken, but in a different way.

Blacks simply just have an awful lot of innate bad habits.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 23:39 | 6228355 lordkoos
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You think it's all about breeding?  -- maybe the reason black people in the US are so messed up because many of them have white blood in their heritage, unlike black Africans.

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 00:32 | 6228458 Billy the Poet
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Dude, that's offensive. The correct term is African-African.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 22:23 | 6228149 conscious being
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Re. Breeding traits into humans. People say that nonsense all the time in a pc knee-jerk reaction, ie. "It can't happen.". If that's so, then how did all those special, inbred related diseases get into the Askanazi genome? They were in ghettos for 2 centuries maybe 3.

Blacks were bred for specific traits in America. Not nice, but a fact just the same. Jimmy the Greek got dumped for being too truthy on this subject, years ago. Since slavery, the lack of education, ghetto life and the destruction of Black families via government hand-outs has worked its own magic on the gene pool.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 16:48 | 6226959 Obama LaForge
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Well, American mostly bought them from African slave traders, and the vast majority of them were either prisoners of war or criminals. So not the cream of the crop.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 18:09 | 6227349 Anusocracy
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Sort of like what we've got in Gitmo?

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 15:50 | 6226689 General Decline
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Why did the U.S. give up on this? 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back-to-Africa_movement

 

Isn't it the height of cultural sensitvity to help the folks get back to where they were originally kidnapped from?

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 22:29 | 6228157 daveO
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Yes, we should help all native Africans return home!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB5iodUkBaI

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 23:40 | 6228358 lordkoos
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And you can get your ass back to Europe or wherever...

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 22:45 | 6228188 WOAR
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Yeah, we should send all the Native Americans back home!

Wait a minute...

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 17:52 | 6227269 Billy the Poet
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You owe some two hundred year old lady a plane ticket, Bubba.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 15:02 | 6226463 MFL8240
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How is this done?

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 16:02 | 6226757 Stackers
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Purposeful degredation of Black society by Progressives in order use them as a tool and repress and control them

Modern American Black society at large is the successful completion of a century long project by Progressives to destroy what they deem as sub-humans

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 22:11 | 6228111 daveO
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It's not repression. I'd call it the new black slavery. It has to do with dealing the imported narcotics. Most sellers are black, who go thru the revolving door of the justice system. They are essentially independent contractors for the importers(See-Aye-A) and the police industrial system(their benefit provider). What looks bad to white folk(prison) is actually a home away from hell for many.

Oh, and Gary Webb supposedly committed suicide.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Webb

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 16:33 | 6226902 Skateboarder
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I was changing the car battery in my car last Sunday morning - it was parked on the main street next to my house.

A black girl pulls up across the street from me - you're not supposed to park on that side.  She's sobbing and hysterical - was wearing sweatpants and a bandanna, had missing front teeth, tongue piercing, in her early 20s - looked like an average gangsta girl. She manages to convey that she needs to charge her phone, make a call.

"What's wrong, lady? Why are you crying?"

She got jumped, by her own cousin, and she's two months pregnant. Apparently she and her "baby's father" had been actually trying to conceive, and that broke her heart. "How could he do that...?"

Consoled her a bit, told her to go home. That was her home. Damn. Told her to be strong, go to one of her friends' places immediately - only they can give her any consolation. After some more sobbing, she collects herself and leaves.

Meanwhile a jillion asian people walked by, wondering why the hell she was sobbing out and letting out little screams in agony.

That whole thing got me thinking... it can't be that only a black girl got jumped today by her black cousin. There must have been a white/brown/yellow girl who got jumped by her white/brown/yello cousin, etc. All over the world. But that girl who stopped across the street wasn't white, or brown, or yellow - she was black. However, a datapoint of one alone does not form a theory...

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 17:41 | 6227176 Billy the Poet
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Tell your son that he can never succeed on his own and that the rest of the family hates him and that you're the only one he can trust. Tell him not to worry because despite all his inadequacies you'll always take care of him.

Then tell your daughter that it's her fault that her brother has become lazy and belligerent. Use her allowance to buy your son something which will make him even more dependent on you.

Follow this strategy consistently for fifty years or more and then ask them how they're getting along.

The blacks are the first frogs boiling in the pot. The government and their media allies intend to boil us all by the same recipe. There, not but for the grace of God but rather but because of my place in the line for slaughter go I. Those who fail to realize that the failings of the black community are intended and created by government and media and that the same plan is being worked against us all simply help the elitists in their quest to make the little people fight amongst themselves while they reap the rewards.

 

How to fix the problem? I defer to Dr. Paul:

 

Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans only as members of groups and never as individuals. Racists believe that all individuals who share superficial physical characteristics are alike; as collectivists, racists think only in terms of groups. By encouraging Americans to adopt a group mentality, the advocates of so-called 'diversity' actually perpetuate racism. Their intense focus on race is inherently racist, because it views individuals only as members of racial groups. Conservatives and libertarians should fight back and challenge the myth that collectivist liberals care more about racism. Modern liberalism, however, well-intentioned, is a byproduct of the same collectivist thinking that characterizes racism. The continued insistence on group thinking only inflames racial tensions. The true antidote to racism is liberty.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 22:24 | 6228151 bitterwolf
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Problem with this so called reasoning, is it is another excuse to avoid SCIENCE and HISTORY both are a real bitch,but the TRUTH is in the blood or DNA as science has found out empirically recently but the white world has known for centuries...DNA has a memory...and the colored folk cant cut the mustard anywhere....Africa,Asia and its inhabitants are/were disasters until the intervention of Caucasians ....white mans burden and all until the mid 20th century of course lol.

http://www.sciencegymnasium.com/2014/01/scientists-have-found-that-memor...

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 00:13 | 6228422 chumbawamba
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Ok, so you provided evidence that memory is passed down through DNA, which I accept.  But how does that impute that "colored folk" are "disasters until the intervention of Caucasians"?

Based on that assertion, please explain Vietnam, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Afghanistan, all of Europe, Indian reservations...

I am Chumbawamba.

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 06:43 | 6228808 Kobe Beef
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Africa before Caucasian intervention..

https://archive.org/stream/negroesinnegrola00help/negroesinnegrola00help...

..Some choice cuts from the Caucasians who explored the place.

 

tldr: no written language, no metallurgy, no architecture, no domestication of animals, no wheels, no ships; lots of cannibalism, slavery, vibrant savagery, and social structures and technological development comparable to homo Erectus.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 20:10 | 6227755 hedgeless_horseman
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How to fix the problem? I defer to Dr. Paul:

 

Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans only as members of groups and never as individuals. Racists believe that all individuals who share superficial physical characteristics are alike; as collectivists, racists think only in terms of groups. By encouraging Americans to adopt a group mentality, the advocates of so-called 'diversity' actually perpetuate racism. Their intense focus on race is inherently racist, because it views individuals only as members of racial groups. Conservatives and libertarians should fight back and challenge the myth that collectivist liberals care more about racism. Modern liberalism, however, well-intentioned, is a byproduct of the same collectivist thinking that characterizes racism. The continued insistence on group thinking only inflames racial tensions. The true antidote to racism is liberty.

 

 Thank you for this perspective!  I wish it so. 

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 22:06 | 6228102 Billy the Poet
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Always happy for the opportunity to quote Ron Paul. The man has the ability to take subjects which confound the world such as war, economy, abortion and racism, and unravel them in the most reasonable and convincing way.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 23:42 | 6228365 lordkoos
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Yep, simple answers for simple minds.

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 00:50 | 6228454 Billy the Poet
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Only an elitist would think that the seven billion people living on Earth can't get along without politicians and their guns and prisons and enough bombs to destroy the world dozens times over. But even simple folk like me understand that all the death and destruction caused by government comes at the price of a decent, peaceable and productive life for those whom you consider to be peons.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 18:41 | 6227456 OC Sure
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This is a good start. Don't forget to tie this falsehood back to ethics, epistemology, and metaphysics. The collective must be right and any individual wrong because consciousness determines what reality is, not vice versa, since concepts originate subjectively without any recognition from facts, and for the fact that since we have any senses at all therefore the sense of self cannot be trusted. Again, this last statement was false. Its the kantian premise that leads to collectivism. 

So to actually fix the problem, the solution presents itself from metaphysics not politics (or even ethics if this is what the implication of 'liberty' means. 

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 19:11 | 6227564 Oldwood
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Liberty means reliance upon self and no other. No person dependent upon another possesses liberty. The black culture is taught dependency upon race hustlers who reinforce this by constantly reminding them that white society is intent on holding them down and their only path is through dependency....a progressive religion. Everything is for and provided by the collective, of which none of us actually belongs. Even the collective is presented as a white institution that must be beat into submission to provide, if shame and guilt do not work, violence is perfectly acceptable, yet hose of us who are told belong to this group are never the recipient of its largess, only the provider of its entitlements. This theme provide two important facets....one is division as it is a must for them to aggregate power, the second is dependency upon the redistributionists administering the collective (the white funded entitlement bank).

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 19:30 | 6227633 OC Sure
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There are many of us who are self reliant, however, we are still not free. Liberty means to be free from compulsion. What you have described is true but the fundamental principle that makes it so is the compulsion. 

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 20:58 | 6227931 Oldwood
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Life IS compulsion. We are compulsed to eat and drink and fight to survive, but not to be dependent upon any person or organization of persons. We will never be free from compulsion, but we will always be free to respond to it.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 23:25 | 6228319 lordkoos
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WTF with this confused libertarian bullshit  - the fact is, we are compulsively social animals. Tribal by nature and by evolution.  Try living without any dependency on another person, family or government.  Move to Somalia, or better yet, Iraq if you don't like government.  It's wide open in those places if you're a real badass.

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 00:31 | 6228456 Anusocracy
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"Move to Somalia, or better yet, Iraq if you don't like government."

Um, the problems in Somalia, Iraq, and basically all other countries is through government brought about by true believing control freaks like you, moron. You and your ilk are the problem and have been for many thousands of years - years of death, destruction, slavery and killing. All because of savages like you.

"Try living without any dependency on another person, family or government."

I would like to point out to you that the act of being dependent does not in any way call for coercion - which apparently is a major component of your rather animalistic mindset. In fact, voluntary interaction is based on both sides being dependent on each other. Moron.

Go back to nature, asshole, the animals miss their jungle idiot.

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 00:25 | 6228444 Billy the Poet
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Libertarians chose to interact with others voluntarily while you insist that forced interaction is necessary and good.  But forcible interaction is not good whether it comes in the form of theft, rape or government.

I think that you understand this deep down and that you are angry with yourself for holding such tyrannical views. You can simply chose to stop using violence as a means of getting what you want and supporting others who do so. You'll likely feel much better about yourself, the world and the other individuals inhabiting it.

 

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 22:04 | 6228090 Billy the Poet
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OC Sure is using definition 1 (initiation of violence) you are using definition 2 (personal impulse).

 

com·pul·sion

1.    the action or state of forcing or being forced to do something; constraint.  

 2.   an irresistible urge to behave in a certain way, especially against one's conscious wishes.
   

 

 

 

 

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 22:09 | 6228110 OC Sure
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That's right, BtP.

Sorry for the confusion, Oldwood. I do mean complusion as the use of force by one person to impede the volition of another. 

I use it in this context to discern between voluntary demand and involuntary demand, per paragraph 14 fwiw: http://ocsure.blogspot.com/

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 19:12 | 6227560 Billy the Poet
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the kantian premise that leads to collectivism.


Can't help but think of Tom Snyder's interview with Ayn Rand. She mentions the philosophical underpinning of collectivism and enslavement of the individual. Tom asks what she means and she gives him a nutshell description of Kant's philosophy. Then Synder says, "You mean he is the one, Kant is the one?" Hilarious and instructive:

 

https://youtu.be/cAFKnfN4bfk?t=1080

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 23:44 | 6228370 lordkoos
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Was that interview before or after Ms Rand started receiving her social security checks?

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 23:39 | 6228481 Anusocracy
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Just repay all stolen SS money plus interest and no one will need to receive a social security check.

You don't have a right to form a crime syndicate called government and that surely means you don't have a right to steal from others.

You are wired to believe in government, moron. So keep your beliefs to yourself and let those who have evolved past that be free from your lunacy.

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 00:17 | 6228433 Billy the Poet
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It was shortly before her death so it would be after she began to receive some restitution from the criminals who had been taking her money against her will for years. She also used government roads because government stole her money to build those roads and the opportunity cost of those government roads was the more efficiently constructed and maintained free market roads which she would have otherwise used.

But you weren't really looking for a thoughtful and informative answer to your question, where you?

 

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 19:22 | 6227609 OC Sure
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Yes, as far as I know the first Rand has identified Kant the clearest. She is the one. 

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