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Confederate Flag Sales Soar Despite Populist Removal Of Merchandise

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Following the removal of Confederate Flag merchandise from WalMart; Sears, Ebay, ETSY, and prominent flag maker Valley Forge Flags have all joined the 'movement' and stopped selling the 'controversial' flag. However, as with any and all government-'suggested' actions, there are unintended consequences in the hypocrisy of implicitly banning this symbolic banner... sales of Confederate Flags are soaring everywhere else (as the "guns and ammo"-like threat of scarcity has led to a run on the products).

As Yahoo reports,

Alotta Signs of Sparks, Nev., typically sells about five Confederate flags per week. On Monday, however, 46 orders came in. Then South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley called for removing the stars and bars from her state's capitol grounds. The next morning, Alotta Signs logged 200 orders for Confederate flags, most of them through Amazon (AMZN). “We don’t even have the lowest price,” says Dave Pearson, owner and president of the company. “It’s nuts.”

 

The threat of scarcity often leads to a run on products -- such as guns, with sales typically spiking when there's talk of tightening regulations after mass shootings. And that appears to be the case for the Confederate flag, now under assault in the aftermath of the murder of nine worshippers at Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston.

 

Many politicians who had defended the right of southern states to fly the flag changed their minds and said it should be relegated to museums. Walmart (WMT) and Sears (SHLD) said they would no longer sell Confederate flag merchandise.

But other retailers are benefiting from the controversy.

On Monday, before Haley announced her change in position on the flag (which still must be approved by the state assembly), Amazon listed two Confederate flags among the 60 bestselling items under “Outdoor Flags and Banners”: one at the No. 5 spot, and one at No. 43. The following morning, five of the top 20 bestsellers in the category were Confederate flags, including the No. 1 bestseller, a 3-by-5 foot polyester model made by Rhode Island Novelty and sold by a company called Anley. Among the top 60, 12 were versions of the Confederate flag.

 

Alotta’s flag, a 3-by-5 nylon embroidered model that sells for $13.95 plus $6.25 shipping (and is not eligible for Amazon’s free-shipping service, Prime) was the No. 7 bestseller as of midday Tuesday. So the sales spike for higher-ranking flags has probably been even greater than for Alotta’s product.

 

Sellers on eBay (EBAY) seem to be experiencing a similar surge in interest. At about 10 a.m. EST on Tuesday, a confederate flag listed by a seller named superqualityflags showed 149 sold in the last 24 hours. By 11 a.m., 201 had been sold in the last 24 hours.

 

EBay has since said it will prohibit sales of Confederate flags, joining Walmart and Sears. "We believe it has become a contemporary symbol of divisiveness and racism," the company said in a statement. Amazon didn't respond for this article.

 

Civil rights advocates may be disheartened by what appears to be a show of solidarity with Roof and other white supremacists, but southerners often point out that pride in the stars and bars has nothing to do with racism. Instead, for many, it signifies respect for the Confederate soldiers who fought for their homeland during the Civil War, including hundreds of thousands who perished.

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We leave it to The Burning Platform's Jim Quinn to explain the hypocrisy of banning The Confederate Flag...

The Civil War was fought over State’s Rights! The Civil War was fought over Slavery! The Civil War was fought cus’ crackas was tryin’ to keep a brotha down! What a load of horseshit!

 

The Civil War was ignited politically because of the State’s Right to secede and the preservation of the institution of slavery . It is not a one versus the other debate. They were both the cause of the Civil War but that is not why the war was fought. The Civil War was fought because the North and the South were radically different. The old wounds never completely healed because the North and the South STILL have different cultures and economies.

 

As Americans we can all have a McDonald’s and Walmart in every town but different regions of the country will still see the world differently. The division of the North and South is still apparent in every election when half the country votes for the Blue team and the other half votes for the Red team.

 

As a Southerner I hold the Stars and Bars in the same high esteem as the Stars and Stripes. As a resident of Alabama I consider myself a current citizen of Alabama above being a citizen of the United States. As a native Texan I consider myself a citizen of the Lone Star State above being a current citizen of Alabama above being a citizen of the United States.

 

This is what State’s Rights means to me. Being a citizen of a individual State above being a citizen of the collective States. The United States was originally founded as a confederacy. A confederacy is defined as a collection of states for the common action of similar states.

 

It wasn’t until after the American Revolution the Articles of Confederation was replaced with the Constitution under a stronger influence of the Federal Government. This changed the country into a Federalist system while many Southern states from the Revolutionary War wanted to remain a Confederation.

 

The debate of the importance of the Federal Government is still ongoing and creating a new divide. By being a citizen of the United States I am automatically a participant in the Federalist system. The Federal Government rules over every State and the power is concentrated in the hands of 535 people. Considering the United States is inhabited by over 300,0000,000 citizens this concentration of power is going to create a new divide over the role of the Federal Government.

 

Except this time we doubt it is solely the Southern state who want to return to a confederacy and limit the role of the Federal Government.

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One final thought - it seems no one had any major problems with The Confederate Flag until some nutjob kills less people than die in Chicago every Friday night. Populist policy-setting by Lowest Common Denominator appears to be the nanny-state's new normal.

 

 

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Tue, 06/23/2015 - 17:24 | 6227104 vortmax
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Don't worry, there's still plenty of Soviet flags for sale.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 17:43 | 6227140 johnvallo
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Flags are so stupid, ugh. LOOK AT ME I'M PATRIOTIC OR IDIOTIC OR WHATEVER. I'm sure there's a direct relationship between flag waving and the number bumper stickers on your car.

It's actually pretty macabre when you think about the original function of a flag - to let soldiers know where the good guys are in the cluster-cuss of battle. But, like fireworks, we've turned a macabre symbol into a celebrated patriotic emblem.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 17:47 | 6227246 johnvallo
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BRING IT ON FOX NEWS JUNKIES

Flags are the epitome of nationalism. And for what? We live in a corporate run oligarchy. That's what the American flag stands for. That and perpetual war. We are probably only second to Nazi Germany with our nationalistic pride in the history of the world. Good for you. 

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 18:22 | 6227388 greenskeeper carl
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kinda funny that you are saying the same shit that most people who post regularly have said themselves 1000 times, but when you do it in reference to the american flag, everyone gets butt hurt.

 

I still like to think of the flag as a symbol of what we lost in this country. The old America that the "fox news junkies" as you put it, like to pretend we are living in. The america of maybe a little over 100 years ago, and what it has the potential to be again. I however do not let it blind me to what it has turned into.

I didn't downvote you as I don't disagree with anything you said, just my opinion.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 18:39 | 6227452 johnvallo
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kinda funny that you are saying the same shit that most people who post regularly have said themselves 1000 times, but when you do it in reference to the american flag, everyone gets butt hurt.

I know, right? It is a little surprising. Hiding behind their downvotes without being man enough to engage me. Kind of like little neocon chicken-hawks. It's cute actually. 

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 19:14 | 6227580 The_Dude
Tue, 06/23/2015 - 19:28 | 6227619 Tall Tom
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Don't let it bring you down

It's only Castles burning

Find someone who's turning

And you will come around.

 

If you stand upon your PRINCIPLES then the junks without dialouge actually demonstrate that there are just far too many who are unprincipled.

 

Celebrate the junks as you have made them STOP and THINK, at least, about the unprincipled crap that they must deal with.

 

The unprincipled are ill equipped to engage a principled and well grounded man in dialouge as that will expose them for who they are.

 

Don't let it bring you down...

 

Most trolls are just junked withut response. However it is far too easy to identify them as they will not engage.

 

Stand upon your principles.

 

But by all means abandon them when they are erroneous or unfactual and are demonstrated as such.

 

In that way you develop into a more principled character. Truth seeking is the exercise which some here are involved. Seek out the truthseekers.

 

You found one with greenskeeper.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 22:44 | 6228187 Josey Montana
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What is there to engage?  You made a statement that precludes engagement.  Who wants to argue over the concept of "flags" and nations vis corporate oligarchy?

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 20:47 | 6227901 falconflight
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Pathetic

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 17:37 | 6227142 johnvallo
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Tue, 06/23/2015 - 18:28 | 6227409 max2205
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The only flags that should be allowed are the ones you put on you car or truck on NFL game days

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 18:54 | 6227509 johnvallo
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THANK YOU. You actually hit on an intersting point - the whole "us versus them" mentality that abides. It is a lot like sports. The American team is better than the "x" team...and we'll blow you out of the water to prove it!! lol

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 19:31 | 6227638 Tall Tom
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All rags should be allowed.

 

If some fool wants to rally around a rag because it makes them feel, somehow, important then let them knock themselves out. (You can laugh at him, or her, if you choose.)

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 17:40 | 6227203 holgerdanske
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I'm a bit tired of people telling me what I can and can't do!.

Choose for yourself, but leave me alone!

 

 

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 17:44 | 6227229 Max Cynical
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But it's still OK to trade Nazi flag memorabilia.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 19:01 | 6227536 johnvallo
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All flags are stupid.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 19:52 | 6227689 Tall Tom
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Well the Flag is not stupid as it is just an object.

 

As for those who blindly pledge allegiance to the rag...

 

Many are actually not stupid but just indoctrinated.

 

When you repeat that pledge for Twelve years almost every day then you may end up parroting it without ever asking yourself the reason why you need to do it. It is engrained and habitual at that point.

 

It takes time to break habits and that habit is broken generally as a result of disILLUSIONment

 

We have many stateists, people who worship the state, on these pages. They still have live in the ILLUSION that the Nation State stands for that which it does not.

 

They have not yet come to the REALIZATION that the State's Function is to ENSLAVE THEM.

 

(REAL-IZE means to recognize that which is REAL or MAKE REAL which is diametrically opposed to MAKE BELIEVE, an ILLUSION.) .

 

Freedom and Liberty are the ANTITHESIS to the STATEIST (although they will liberally salt their speech with those words without understanding the meaning).

 

On the other hand there are also many here that are not STATEISTS.

 

When the STATEISTS become hungry and Mommy Government breaks down and cannot provide for them it is at that point many will become disillusioned. And that is when all Hell breaks loose. And that time appraches rapidly.

 

No. Flags are NOT STUPID. They have no volition to be that whatsoever.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 21:04 | 6227951 falconflight
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Except the CCCP flag?

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 04:55 | 6228717 gladius17
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The Confederate flag is pretty cool though. It's aggressive and manly.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 21:08 | 6227960 Bloppy
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Confederate flag flap reopens debate on 'jimmies' in New England:

http://tinyurl.com/pr6278j

 

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 17:26 | 6227105 LawsofPhysics
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The quickest way to make something popular/valuble is to make it illegal...

same as it ever was...

I expect the war on symbols to proceed about as well as the war on drugs, the war on poverty, or the war on terror...

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 17:40 | 6227205 greenskeeper carl
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I agree. I was worried this would cause a run on guns/ammo, and did a little shopping to try to beat the rush. Wouldn't have guessed it would be confederate flags. Im a southerner, GA native, may have to buy one, if for no other reason than to say 'fuck you'. Everytime they demonize something, sales spike. The silent majority in this country speaks in a different way. Obama has to be the greatest gun salesman in the history of the world. Same thing when they tried to get a boycott going for chick fila.

 

As a side note, if any of yall own anything that prefers a certain kind of ammo that comes from russia in a spam can, might wanna buy a little  just in case. Between the tensions with russia causing a ban on anything russian and the gun demonization, that stuff might be about to get scarce again.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 18:27 | 6227406 thamnosma
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Somebody out there is already gearing up a small manufacturing unit to sell these flags.  Always an opportunity in this world.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 17:26 | 6227111 JoeySandwiches
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It's called the silent majority. Like when the lefties were trying to boycott Chick-Fil-A and they saw their sales skyrocket and now they're the second biggest chicken chain, behind KFC.

 

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 17:37 | 6227185 Seek_Truth
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Correct on the 1st point, incorrect on the 2nd- Chik-Fil-A sales exceed those of KFC:

http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/The-Bite/2014/0401/Chick-fil-A-sales-t...

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/eats/chick-fil-a-surpasses-kfc-art...

Chik-Fil-A is now in the top spot- with half the locations of KFC- and closed on Sunday.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 17:27 | 6227116 Philo Beddoe
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Should have posted a picture of Daisy Duke to get more page hits. 

Jessica Simpson from the back....or front.....or side. 

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 17:32 | 6227156 Philo Beddoe
Tue, 06/23/2015 - 18:38 | 6227443 Normalcy Bias
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Hand lotion sales generator!

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 18:41 | 6227458 Philo Beddoe
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I told my buddy that they show that video in sperm donation clinics. Speed up processing times and all. 

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 19:01 | 6227532 tenpanhandle
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Aw c'mon.  Willies not that cute.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 19:26 | 6227618 Normalcy Bias
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I wouldn't doubt it. At that time, her body was about as hot as it gets...

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 17:28 | 6227123 AUELOX
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How contrary.  All these corporations use, dare I say Slave Labor over seas to meet their monetary advantage. 

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 17:28 | 6227125 City_Of_Champyinz
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Obama is the best gun salesmen in history, and PC liberal Democrat ignoramuses are now becoming the best confederate battle flag salesmen...Who would have thunk it?

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 17:32 | 6227128 Dixie Flatline
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Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the Bonnie Blue, and begin slitting throats.

Apologies to Mencken.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 20:10 | 6227775 DirkDiggler11
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I agree.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 17:31 | 6227131 roadhazard
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I doubt it and I love that flag. Fifteen Confederate veteran ancestors in my family.

 

 

SALUTE !

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 17:35 | 6227174 corporatewhore
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Congratulations!  I was doing genealogical research and discovered that the relatives from a small hamlet in Ireland are related to me directly and served the CSA.

American by birth, Southern by the grace of God

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 18:07 | 6227338 The_Dude
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Found that I had a relative of my exact namesake that died at the age of 20 fighting for the North.  

And I would gladly fight for anyones right to continue to fly the Confederate Battle Flag, especially since it drives the Statists and Progs crazy.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 17:30 | 6227134 Xibalba
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Do they know it's made in China? 

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 20:14 | 6227787 DirkDiggler11
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No, mine are manufactured in Washington Georgia by the Ruffin Flag company.

http://www.ruffinflagcompany.net/category_v3.aspx?categoryID=16

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 17:31 | 6227150 Rainman
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Meanwhile, the Mexican flag proudly flies over LA skools.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 17:38 | 6227192 lakecity55
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Long Live the Confederacy.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 20:27 | 6227828 falconflight
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Tear Down this Empire!

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 18:25 | 6227401 quasimodo
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Ole senor!

 

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 17:36 | 6227179 Miss Expectations
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Stars & Bars = All we ask is to be left alone (Jefferson Davis)

Rainbow = All we ask is that we be publically celebrated for taking it in the ass.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 17:39 | 6227196 Dixie Flatline
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With gay pride parades taking place in many cities across the world this weekend, the US role will be more visible than ever. Diplomats will take part in parades and some embassies will fly the rainbow flag along with the Stars and Stripes.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 20:44 | 6227887 BarkingCat
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Reminds me of the old t-shirt:
AIDS - kills fags dead.

A take off on the old Raid ant killer.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 17:37 | 6227181 Pairadimes
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The statists are perfecting the conditions for taking control by altering history in favor of their narrative. This is the reason why the confederate flag, which has existed longer than anyone alive today, must now suddenly be cast down. All of the symbols and ideas of the old, good and bad, must be destroyed to make way for the progressive vision of equality of outcomes and the supremacy of the all-providing state. Anything that runs the risk of reminding any of us that we once fought for what we believed in must be replaced by a neurotic fear of the state.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 20:24 | 6227824 DirkDiggler11
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And that is exactly why they will find that their control over us "subjects" slips away, even more swiftly on them now. This whole NBC manufactured flag BULLSHIT will backfire on them big time.

Mark my words as well, you see the firestorm in the media today, but that flag is NOT coming down from the capital grounds in SC anytime soon. For extra credit I will also tell you Nikki Haley just ended her political career in SC as well. If she wanted advice, she should have just called the Ex- Govenor of Georgia Roy Barnes that got beat in his re-election campaign on just this one issue, the state flag.

The people of SC have always been fiercely independent, dating back to colonial times, it's their culture. SC has far fewer carpetbagger Yankees than Ga does in the Atlanta Metro area, and it was still enough in Ga to "Boot Barnes" after just one term as Govenor. Nikki Haley is toast in SC.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 20:46 | 6227896 BarkingCat
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Good. No need for more spineless republicans

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 17:37 | 6227183 lakecity55
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Most people do not understand the Confederate Naval Jack means FU to the Statists.

It is not so much a "symbol" of racism as it is a big FU to Federal Power.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 20:45 | 6227895 falconflight
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Slavery and 100 years of post reconstruction black oppression was under the Stars and Stripes, not the Stars and Bars.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 17:37 | 6227184 saints51
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Confederate family here.

I can promise you China will have no problem making confederate flags.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 18:43 | 6227455 THE 4th Quadrant
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China sounds like the old America?

Hummmmm. That's comforting.

END THIS FEDERAL GOVERNMENT NOW!

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 17:37 | 6227187 wendigo
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I bought a bunch today. Might be a ban on them soon. 

 

Whatever your views on the CSA, if they make it illegal to display confederate battle flags, you should hang one high. Free speech, civil disobedience, and all that. Someone once siad you have a moral duty to disobey laws that are unjust. 

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 20:50 | 6227913 BarkingCat
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I don't give an ant's piss about the confederate flag and will now buy one. Might even stick a flag pole by my front door and hang it in my front yard just to piss off all the useless statists that live in my city. Which is vast majority of population here.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 17:38 | 6227190 The Steaksmith
Tue, 06/23/2015 - 17:40 | 6227202 Max Cynical
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FOR SALE on EBay: Hillary Clinton 2008 Confederate Flag Pins

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/06/for-sale-on-ebay-hillary-clinton...

Check this out...Clinton-Gore 1992 campaign pin.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/npklegg7xa4hqbe/Clinton-Gore%201992.jpg?dl=0

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 20:00 | 6227735 falconflight
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Thank you, I'm going to change my avatar.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 17:43 | 6227212 One And Only
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What's really interesting about the Civil War and Abraham Lincoln that most people don't know and almost all liberals don't know is that while Abraham Lincoln did emancipate the slaves he did not think that blacks and whites should have the same social or political rights. And while he did free the slaves he wanted to send them all back to Africa and to Latin America in what was called colonization. Lastly the Emancipation Proclamation did not free all slaves.

So next time you hear Obama or one of your liberal fucktard friends bring up Lincoln make sure they know the aforementioned. Lincoln is the most misunderstood politician in American History.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 17:44 | 6227226 wendigo
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Lincoln was a tryant and a war criminal. He also did not free a single slave, not even in the slave states that remained part of the union. A bullet was too good for him, he deserved the noose instead. 

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 17:46 | 6227240 One And Only
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He would be considered a war criminal for what he allowed to happen after the Civil War.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 17:42 | 6227213 FreeShitter
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The communists and facists hate eachother's symbols. This is just another way the govt is telling it's citizens, "fuck you we are in control." They are destroying the southern history in your faces. Trying to rewrite history in their favor. Its so fucking obvious. The satanic rothchilds are playing both sides against us (in this case the meaningless 2 party system). In a sense, southern confederate ancestory is being genocided.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 18:47 | 6227475 Farqued Up
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Don't believe that, my brother. If they think that little skirmish ended in 1865, they are full of MSM bullshit wishful thinking.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 17:42 | 6227214 SHsparx
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If I didn't know any better, I would swear that Nikki Haley owned shares in Alotta Signs, Inc.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 17:48 | 6227222 kevinearick
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Graduate Economics

Eliminating anonymous cash takes working capital out of the hands of labor, locking the system into central control. And Family Law destroys marriage, for the purpose of raising children, without which there is no future, to subsidize civil marriage with accrual accounting. Life is distilled from gravity.

There are as many ways to think about economics as there are people, and more. Choose one that suits your purpose, but don’t follow the herd and expect History not to repeat.

Capital maximizes rent/income, to maintain the status quo. Labor maximizes income/rent, to implement modernization. And the planet does not stand still. In a closed system, how most are bred by public education to think, nothing gets done and the economy comes to a halt. One way to think about the middle class is as a transfer case, like a hook and a block, implemented like a multiplexer, to provide media event horizons.

As you can easily see in Greece, and everywhere else if you look, the upper middle class, closest to capital, the professionals, which as a group can in no way feed themselves directly from nature, is about to throw the lower middle class, bringing it natural resources for money, under the bus, at a loss in living standards. And all the professionals really have is words, taken from others for the purpose, which is why it is terrified of leaving the monetary union, resulting in extortion, from the top down.

Welfare is the minimum cost bid to tip the scale; that’s what they are always negotiating. Neither capital nor the middle class can reboot themselves, but anyone in any event horizon can switch over to labor, at any time, if they can get separation from the gravity of their event horizon, which is merely a perception, locked in by habits, which is why you want to spend some time in each event horizon, which requires momentum beyond the knowledge of empire.

Ultimately, you want to be able to build and engage event horizons based on the load you want to pick. In one instance, you may want a single sprocket and 10 gears. In another, you may want two sprockets and 5 gears. But in no case do you want one sprocket and 2 gears, which is what Carney & Kids are building. Canada had massive excess natural resources, which it is now destroying, and massive subsidies from the U.S., which are rapidly depleting.

Best business practice, objective based management, is a ruse, to maintain the status quo of natural resource exploitation, fed by demographic variability, like a virus, with infrastructure leverage. Funny, the Church presenting Galileo as evidence, after persecuting and killing him, for existing beyond time, as understood by Church and King, middle class and capital, at the time.

Individuals are disallowed by law to start a taxi service, without the prerequisite bribe, but Uber is allowed to start a taxi service, with individuals who have no rights, but efficient commoditization, a multibillion dollar capitalization. In what world does that make sense, except in the rabbit hole the majority chooses to occupy?

Did you see that Ubergirl spokesperson explaining how it all made sense, and those politicians nodding their heads in agreement?

Boeing isn’t going anywhere you want to go. It’s going to war, with shoddy US merchandise, to protect an economy that is nothing more than Internet advertizing, leverage on the margin, but get onboard if you like. There is nothing the empire has built, all derivatives, that labor cannot take down, in the blink of an eye, but to what end?

Labor has nothing to fear from any nation/state, because, if left to its own devices, capital will destroy itself every time, pitting itself against nature, which it sees as the enemy. It’s like the make-up economy. The critters slab on make-up, which closes the pours, which increases the need for make-up, instead of drinking water and marrying someone they love, to make their cheeks rosy, and soft as a dove.

You aren’t going to get anywhere by destroying the leading edge, which is exactly what the majority wants, and fails to do every time, extorting itself out of existence, over time, from the bottom up. That’s it, have me wash your dishes because you are too lazy to get up and do it yourself, and pretend to be busy, talking about politics and religion, which is obviously way over my head.

Don’t hitch your load to a politician, in black robes or white, and expect it to hold.

Why do you suppose labor’s motor grows?

I had a business professor one time, who wore make-up and wrote a very popular book, in economic circles, and he was better than most, at what he did, teach kids with very thin, very neat, leather briefcases, to sell derivatives, and I liked him, because he had a sense of humor, about it all. I was always the guy the gang came after, with bigger and bigger gangs.

 

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 17:43 | 6227225 Biggieshort
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It's amazing how liberals never want to address real social issues, they always attack inanimate objects.

 

 

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 17:46 | 6227244 Max Cynical
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Nice avatar...

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 17:51 | 6227264 Manipuflation
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I happen to agree with you.  I wonder how many other people do?

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 19:23 | 6227572 johnvallo
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National flags of any sort are ultimately symbols of opression. The flag proclaims that the nation/state has succeeded in crushing (killing) it's adversaries both internal and external to the point where it can be proudly waved over and against all others. When you display any nation/state's flag, you display the oppression that invariably accompanies it's imperial success (or pipe dream that it succeeded). 

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 20:02 | 6227742 Manipuflation
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You are not wrong in the big picture johnvallo.  To me the flag represents rebellion on the issue of State's Right's.  Flags are communicators as symbols. 

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 20:10 | 6227778 Tall Tom
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It was the War of Northern Aggression after all.

 

Lincoln subverted the Constitution and claimed unconstitutional dictatorial powers.

 

That was the day these united States died and became the United States.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 20:38 | 6227871 DirkDiggler11
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4 PM April 9th, 1865 at Appomattox Court House Virginia is the exact time, date, and place our country died.

Who knows the time, date, and place of the resurrection of the United States ???

( I would say it's safe to rule out San Francisco, Seattle, New York, and Boston )

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 21:28 | 6228005 falconflight
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Oh, maybe those cites will be the very first...surrounded and cut off from resupply.

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 05:03 | 6228727 gladius17
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+1 Escape from San Francisco

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 20:07 | 6227765 Tall Tom
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When you display any nation/state's flag, you display the oppression that invariably accompanies it's imperial success

 

That is one of many possible reasions for displaying a flag. Are there other possible reasons?

 

There are some banners which were flown in battles waged in order to expel those who were the oppressor.

 

What about the Gadsen Flag? The Colonialists were involved expelling the oppression of the Crown.

 

As a libertarian who is in agreement with the non aggression principle I understand that there are actually people who choose their own enslavement. They are free to do that if they wish. So who am I to forbid that?

 

Unfortunately the Tree of Liberty must be watered with the blood of patriots. That is the way the Tree of Opression is uprooted, cast out, and burned into ash.

 

As a Libertarian I do not yield my SOVEREIGN right to self defense and self preservation.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 21:26 | 6228002 falconflight
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Including tribal colors?

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 23:00 | 6228225 johnvallo
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No because it's tribal, I said national.
We have a sick war fetish that's never satisfied. If limbs and blood and brains were sprayed on the bystanders at each fireworks show at Fourth of July we'd get a better understanding of what war is and perhaps not celebrate it with such fervor.
Anyway same thing with our obsession with flags. They're f****** war symbols (ok, maybe diplomatic symbols also, but mostly rooted in war and conquest). Like that statue of the marines on Iwo Jima, with the flag. That statue is fine, but we fetishize it.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 17:59 | 6227300 SMC
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Perhaps because inanimate objects do not fight back?

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 18:15 | 6227365 Biggieshort
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That. Or, they have come to realize, they created most of today's social issues.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 18:31 | 6227425 max2205
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No flag avatars allowed on ZH

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 19:04 | 6227544 johnvallo
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Yeah liberals! They're the problem! And all the Republicans say Hallelujah!

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 20:23 | 6227813 Tall Tom
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Today's vote for Fast Tracking in the Senate has demonstrated that there is, in fact, no difference between Republicans and Democrats.

 

Actually the real fight is between Sovereign Individualists, who wish to be responsible for their own lives and exercise their Sovereign Rights, and the Socialists who are collectivist STATEISTS who want to restrict Sovereign Individual Rights.

 

Rights are Sovereign. They are not granted by any Government. A Sovereign is no more special than you. If the King has the right then certainly you have the right.

 

The Constitution was ratified to RESTRICT GOVERNMENT from removing those Sovereign Rights.

 

"Congress shall make NO LAW abridging the freedom of speech,..."

 

Read the Bill of Rights...Understand that Government is restricted.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 19:39 | 6227661 falconflight
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Wow, you still call them Liberals?

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 17:50 | 6227260 Hammerabi
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aaah Jim Quinn is from Alabama. It all makes so much sense now.

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 05:05 | 6228728 gladius17
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The citation is wrong. That article was written by the beautiful and intelligent Stephanie Shepard.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 17:51 | 6227263 DIgnified
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A rebel flag trend.  Never would  have guessed that I'd see the day.  Haven't they figured out that normal people don't like sanctimonious asshole political groups telling people how to live and what to think? 

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 17:57 | 6227290 Philo Beddoe
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Step 1. Have sheep. 

Step 2. Have leader. 

Result =   sanctimonious asshole political groups telling people how to live and what to think. 

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 18:18 | 6227372 JessieSharpton
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"Haven't they figured out that normal people don't like sanctimonious asshole political groups telling people how to live and what to think? "

If people didn't like it, would they put up like sheeple?

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 17:54 | 6227277 SMC
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This country is FUBAR.

Where is the Mayflower and when it is leaving?

 

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 18:03 | 6227316 MrPalladium
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Classic.

Most of my ancestors were victims of the enclosures, arrested for vagrancy and put on ships bound for Canada and America.

Their enslavement was and is covered up.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 19:01 | 6227533 Farqued Up
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The Mayflower is a figment just as the Plymouth Rock is. In fact that whole area is myth, hype, and commercial bullshit.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 18:05 | 6227330 p00k1e
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Chinese made Confederate Flags?

The joke is anyone who buys a Confederate Flag then votes for an incumbent. 

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 18:08 | 6227342 A Lunatic
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If the government and major Corps don't like it then I want one, whatever it is. Heck, make it two..........

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 18:09 | 6227346 JessieSharpton
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Hey you racist ass creepy ass crackas!
This jewish feminist/jewish social justice warrior is coming for your guns.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/23/opinions/kohn-confederate-flag/

The jews at the banks/media/communist party are afraid of creepy ass crackas with guns growing balls and kicking the problems out of the country.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 18:28 | 6227407 Biggieshort
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She can have my gun, I would give her the bullets first ;)

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 18:10 | 6227350 Mongrel
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Have we ever been busy since this latest episode of cultural cleansing (known as Reconstruction III) began! Join the Resistance! www.leagueofthesouth.com

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 18:16 | 6227369 adjudged
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I am a Southerner and my relatives died fighting for my part of the country in the War Between the States.  There was great heroism and sacrifice in the South, and the Reconstruction extended the misery that our people suffered.

Now, 150 years later, the War has become the War to Free the Slaves.  They were freed, thank God, and have been free for 150 years.

We have our history and have a right to our history.  Spray painting statues of our heroes is as reprehensible as spray painting Martin Luther King, Jr. statues and street signs.  

We have many groups in this country, and the idea that there is only one accptable historical view of events - across this country - is intolerant and inconducive to these groups getting along.  

Now,

Mitt Romney (I do believe the Mormons have a few skeletons in their own closet), Lindsey Graham, Walmart and Ebay are piling on to censor my history and that of millions of my countrymen.  

It is time to boycott Ebay and Walmart.

 

 

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 19:56 | 6227720 falconflight
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My translator is on the fritz.  Did you mean boycott or bullets?

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 21:59 | 6228082 BlussMann
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What you don't understand is that the White's are undergoing the South Africanization of their previously White ruled nation - all White symbols, statues and history will be destroyed and, like the submissive Boers, American White;s will take it and wish someone would save their butts - but it won't happen - American White's are not their grandfathers or great grandfathers - the idea of an organziation to protect White's and advance their interest is just too much for the modern American girly man. What does the average American White think of when you say "Klan" - they raise their skirts and shriek.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 18:16 | 6227370 adjudged
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I am a Southerner and my relatives died fighting for my part of the country in the War Between the States.  There was great heroism and sacrifice in the South, and the Reconstruction extended the misery that our people suffered.

Now, 150 years later, the War has become the War to Free the Slaves.  They were freed, thank God, and have been free for 150 years.

We have our history and have a right to our history.  Spray painting statues of our heroes is as reprehensible as spray painting Martin Luther King, Jr. statues and street signs.  

We have many groups in this country, and the idea that there is only one accptable historical view of events - across this country - is intolerant and inconducive to these groups getting along.  

Now,

Mitt Romney (I do believe the Mormons have a few skeletons in their own closet), Lindsey Graham, Walmart and Ebay are piling on to censor my history and that of millions of my countrymen.  

It is time to boycott Ebay and Walmart.

 

 

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 18:21 | 6227382 Laddie
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Amazon.com and EBay have banned all Confederate flags.

Fellow makes them in Nevada said he sells 5 a month yesterday he sold 200! Now that is GOOD NEWS for Freedom Tyler! Thanks for telling us about that!

Attorney General Loretta Lynch announced .gov will “fast track” $29 million to victim families of the June 17 shooting at the Emmanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston South Carolina, Reuters reports. This amounts to over $3.2 million per family.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-3131972/U-S-fast-track-...

But these ignominies and dangers were as nothing compared with the peril of white women, many bereft by the war of male protection, who lived alone in the outlying districts and on lonely roads. It was the large number of outrages on women and the ever-present fear for the safety of their wives and daughters that drove Southern men to cold and trembling fury and caused the Ku Klux Klan to spring up overnight. And it was against this nocturnal organization that the newspapers of the North cried out most loudly, never realizing the tragic necessity that brought it into being. The North wanted every member of the Ku Klux hunted down and hanged, because they had dared take the punishment of crime into their own hands at a time when the ordinary processes of law and order had been overthrown by the invaders.
Gone with the Wind (1936) CHAPTER XXXVII Margaret MITCHELL

The attackers "APPEARED" to be black!!

Indianapolis Playground Beating: Girl and Her Little Brother Brutally Attacked in Park March 15, 2015
The Indianapolis playground beating may have been racially motivated. The victim and her brother were white and the attackers appeared to be black. As the victim was asking why she was being attacked, one of the boys in the group appeared to answer, “You white, bitch.”

Young Girl and Little Brother attacked
Video posted on facebook of brutal attack on a female and her little brother
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b10_1426395873

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 18:41 | 6227457 max2205
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29 million wow......this will make the Bros riot in Chicago for their share....the equivalent of 100 billion....each year

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 21:27 | 6228003 THE 4th Quadrant
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If you die fighting for the USSA, does your family get 3.2mil?

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 18:23 | 6227389 thamnosma
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So, the next crazed SSRI kid who makes a video with an American flag will lead to banning sales of the American flag?  This is so ludicrous.   My guess is that the left has had that confederate flag in their targets for some time waiting for just this sort of event to unleash the crusade, which the corporate herd will rush to obey.  The media rapidly signed onto the project, falling over each other to proclaim they are REALLY for this.   I am surprised the Washington Redskins stood up the progressives, but as soon another version of a big pharma cocktail shoots up an Indian casino, that'll be it for the Redskins.

 

 

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 18:42 | 6227460 Laddie
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Well there was an incident a few years ago in California where the Mexican students were wearing apparel with Mexican flags, 5, FIVE White kids at the school wore American flag shirts, the assistant principal, a Mexican, told them to take them off or go home. Well the parents sued. The 9th District Federal Court based in San Francisco agree with the High School. The US Supreme Court agreed. Just as on the 18th of this month the Supreme Court agreed with the state of Texas and BANNED the Confederate flag license plates that had been allowed for DECADES for the sons of Confederate Veterans or whatever their exact name is... So both the Confederate flag and the American flag are HATE-FILLED RACIST RAGS according to the US SUPREME COURT.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 19:13 | 6227569 thamnosma
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Appalling, but here we are.  I can't see where this ends well.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 18:25 | 6227398 1stepcloser
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The Duke boys won't be happy about this, not one bit.  

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 18:43 | 6227440 JohnGaltsChild
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Excuse me. I seem to have forgotten, but are we at war with the East or the West?

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 18:39 | 6227441 kchrisc
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"Wave 'em in the air like you just don't care."

Cause, well, we don't. We don't care what anyone thinks, especially Zionist tools and fools.

Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission..

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 18:38 | 6227447 Laddie
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"As a Southerner I hold the Stars and Bars in the same high esteem as the Stars and Stripes. As a resident of Alabama..."

‘Get that White!’: A Gaze into a Coming Nightmare of Non-Prosecution of Hate Crimes Against Whites

It started off like any average ‘First Friday’ in Florence, Alabama. It ended with a glimpse into the racial nightmare that awaits the European peoples in the coming racial apocalypse. Earlier this month, the Dawes family participated in the familiar civic event before starting to make their way home as evening descended. A group of Blacks, numbering between 20 and 30, chose this moment to set upon them with fists and weapons. Fourteen year old Brandon was the first to be singled out. He was struck violently from behind with a closed fist. When dad Kevin realized what was happening, he quickly moved to defend his son, positioning himself between Brandon and the attacker. At this point the whole frenzied mob moved in to screams of ‘Get that White!’ The feral crowd only dispersed to the sounds of police sirens, but by then the family’s car windshield had been destroyed, and Kevin had several Taser burns and broken facial bones.

The government and police response in the aftermath of the incident tells us all we need to know about our growing need to organize and educate for adequate racial self-defense. Pressed by the media on whether the incident would be treated as a ‘hate crime,’ Police Chief Ron Tyler has been hesitant in the extreme, stating only that the attack was being looked at “from all possible angles.” There is only one angle from which this incident can be viewed – the angle of ceaseless racial conflict. Unfortunately we happen to live in an age of duplicity on a mass scale. There is no racial conflict, we are told, only very bad ‘racists.’ The race traitors and Jews that fill the minds of our youth with the bile of ‘Whiteness Studies’ are so very careful to remind us that while race is a ‘social construct,’ only ‘Whites’ can be racist. Whites are ‘trained’ oppressors, who dominate and exploit simply by existing. We are the personification of ‘hate,’ and we can therefore never expect equal application of ‘hate crime’ laws. They are, in fact, ‘White crime’ laws –designed specifically for our people to be held on a leash. They are the rope that forces us to engage in the racial struggle for existence with one hand tied behind our back.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 18:48 | 6227481 Laddie
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Since whites are being attacked as a race, we have no other choice but to defend ourselves as Whites. .gov discriminates against us, private businesses discriminate against us, the mainstream media conducts mind-warfare against us, and people of color are SLAUGHTERING White men, women and children DAILY, with liberal doses of rape and torture as well.

See: http://newnation.org/

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 19:39 | 6227488 teutonicate
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Tyler, great post.

No reasonable person can advocate the shooting of 9 innocent civilians, and I don't.

However, I think the attempt to ban the sale of a symbol that has a multitude of meanings, many of which are honorable, clearly illustrates the cabalist witch hunts of which our society is capable.

Anything that can even remotely be interpreted or misinterpreted as furthering the interests of people of white European descent in this country is attacked by opportunists.  The worst offenders are the white race-traitorous sheeple that jump on the bandwagon for political gain.

Nobody seems to be concerned at all about the 400+ white people murdered by black criminals last year (2014) in our country.  Are we to assume none of those 400+ murders were "racially motivated"?  I guess it's all just part of the white genocide.

My prediction is that the aggregate sales of confederate flags will permanently increase as a result of the proposed ban by certain sellers.  Their actions will only serve to highlight a legitimate and growing concern.

I do not advocate the shooters actions, but I share his concerns about the future of our people and nation.

 

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 19:08 | 6227554 TheGreatRecovery
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LINDSEY GRAHAM.  South Carolina's senior USA Senator seems to vote for every USA overseas military adventure.  How can South Carolina support the USA sticking its nose in everybody else's business, and then complain when the USA sticks its nose in South Carolina's business?

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 19:28 | 6227597 teutonicate
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When you are owned lock, stock and barrel by the cabal, hypocrisy becomes a way of life.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 19:21 | 6227601 Thenardier
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Haley is a fuckin Indian-American and has a heap of nerve telling us southerners about southern ideology.

Pure and simple, the Confederacy was at its heart a rebellion against the federal government.

 

From the General himself, six months before his death:

Lexington, VA 6 June 1870

My Dear Cassius (Mr. C.F. Lee, Jr.)

I am very much obliged to you for your letter of the 1st and the interest you evince in the character of the people of the South and their defense of the rights which they believe were guaranteed by the Constitution. The reputation of individuals is of minor importance to the opinion which posterity may form of the motives which governed the South in their late struggle for the maintenance of the principles of the Constitution. I hope, therefore, a true history will be written and justice be done to them. A history of the military events of the period would also be desirable. I have had it in view to write one of the campaigns in Virginia, in which I was more particularly engaged. I have already collected some materials for the work, but lack to much that I wish to obtain that I have not commenced the narrative. I am very much obliged to you for the offer of the materials which you have collected. I think it probable that I have all the official reports, and would not like to resort to any other source for a statement of facts...

 

I am, very truly, your cousin, 

 

R.E. Lee

 

In Memoirs of Robert E. Lee

written by my (Thenerdier) cousin Lieu. Gen. Armistead L. Long, whose aide de camp was my great great grandfather 1st Lieut. Robert O. Arrington

1886, p4

 

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 19:37 | 6227658 cajun robear
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Just dug out an old Rebel flag (leftover from an Ole Miss football game many moons ago). It's now proudly flying next to my Betsy Ross flag. Both reminders that most Americans don't like to be told how to live and what to do. There will be serious repercussions if anyone dares to take either of them down.

Sic semper tyrannis.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 19:41 | 6227663 falconflight
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Observing Amerika this past week, I feel like I'm living in Nazi Germany circa 1933.  If you don't believe and submit to the Obamanation, you're the rhetorical Jew.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 19:44 | 6227672 Consuelo
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Very sobering - and telling, to see this form of Political-Correctness cum-instant 'democracy' take hold.    Like lemmings tripping over each other, they can't get politically-correct fast enough.   No reasoned thought or debate; it's decided...   This following of ne'er-do-wells seems to have spine enough (collectively speaking), to now call on its face, the Confederate Flag a symbol of racism and hatred.

Those who firmly believe otherwise should not be afraid to make their voices heard.

 

 

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 19:45 | 6227674 falconflight
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I shit on the Pledge of Allegence, and piss on the US Stars and Stripes.  Neither even remotely represent those oft parroted ideas of Liberty.  Manufactured hysteria is screaming across the rotting fruited plain.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 20:03 | 6227746 European American
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I pledge defiance to the flag 

of the united socialst states of america,

and to the oligarchy for which it stands, 

one nation under surveillance, enslaved, 

with tyranny and oppression for all.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 20:41 | 6227880 falconflight
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I know it's hard to read, and harder to write, but it must be done.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 21:42 | 6228044 BlussMann
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Been my sentiments for the longest.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 23:45 | 6228373 Buster Cherry
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After the war, the union soldiers.would stop southerners on the.street and force them to recite an oath of.alleigance. That action was known as "Swallowing the.Dog".

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 19:57 | 6227725 Manipuflation
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I guess shit like this doesn't matter as long as it black on black violence.  Fuck that, it matters.  Skin color does not matter because what matters is if you are piece of shit or not.

The lunacy doesn't end there of course.  We have to change the names of a lake and some roads I guess here in good old MN.  So what's next?  A mass map burning?  Are we going to have to drain Lake Calhoun and refill it with racially purified water?  After that, what is next to bitch about?  And who is doing the bitching?  Mike Spangenburg is.  Is he black?  Of course not.  That whole Calhoun area are wealthy white liberals who don't like to pay their bills.(recall my lawn care company affiliations)  I saw to rename it Douchebag Lake and have a giant Massengill douchbag water feature right in the middle of the fucker.

There is "racism" going on all over the place but it has nothing to do with that flag.  My theory on it is that pretty everyone is broke and in debt and are pissed off and race is an easy card to play.  Blame the other guy.  I have a little story about do gooding Mericans and why they piss everyone else off.  I think it is commonly known here on ZH that I have a Russian wife and that I have done some travelling abroad, not a lot or anything but enough to gain a different perspective.  Most of the people I hang out with are not Americans and they tell me stories about they interact with Mericans.  I can't possibly tell all of the stories they have told me although that would help in this case.

The main little story is that I have lamented that I have never been able to make friends with a Muslim before.  That has changed now to some degree and here is how it happened.  We all live in a nice apartment complex in a nice part of town and the rent is to damned high.  A couple of years ago they came with a no smoking policy.  You can't even smoke on your balcony.  Under old management they let me do it anyway after peaceful negotiations.  New management wrote me up and a lot of other people too.  You will never believe this but I confronted them about it.  I rattled her cage ZeroHedge style.  Meanwhile two Arabs were sitting just outside of the office waiting to talk next and it turns out for the same reason.  

I requested pesticide and fertilizer records for the last two years and the law says that the landlorn must provide this information immediately upon request.  Alright you want to fuck with me with corporate policy?  Here I will fuck with you back with some statutory law and you just failed.  If I smoke in here that is a violation of my covenent with XYW property management, HOWEVER, you are not in violation of state and federal law.  I asked if I should make a few phone calls.  This young fat chick went pale in the face.  At that point she said she was not the manager so them I asked why she signed the paperwork she gave me?  Oops.  I asked well who is charge here and she pointed to some other woman in another who was clearly pretending to be on the phone, avoiding eye contact and not wanting anything to do with me.  They fucked with me first.  When you whack a hornets nest you expect that there be retaliation.  I asked if I could smoke in my detached garages and she said yes. 

The young Arab guys really liked what I did because they can speak and understand.  I know they smoke and had been liking my motorcycles.  I invited them over to my garage and they agreed.  Turns out they are Saudi students so you know what that means.  The .gov of SA pays for them to go to school.  I still have a lot to learn about them but they are hanging out quite often and they meet and interact with the Japanese, Koreans, Russians, Ukrainians, Indians and the Bulgarian guy I hang out with.  We know a couple of Mexicans who will stop by once in a while too.  Everyone gets to talking and they have about each other's cultures.  It is not Merican-centric. 

Now the one garage has turned into a bit of a nightclub where you can smoke whatever you want.  I went garage saling and found a whole bunch of comfortable lounge chairs for cheap and arranged them in the garage.  I found some neon booze signs for cheap so we have mood lighting.  Bring your own booze and smokes though and help clean up too.(That has not been a problem.)  There is not a lot of AC power in the detached garages but I know how to stretch it out if you will.  I don't have to pay extra for any electricity used in the detached garages because they are all on one meter.  Ooops for them.

The eldest Saudi was told to 'Go Back to Somalia" yesterday so he was not thrilled about that.  

I can say this with impunity; if I hung a confederate flag in my garage/smoker's lounge no one would give a shit at all and probably like it.  I am telling you that these people from all over the world do not care about that flag.  I have however been asked why I am different from so many Americans.  My reply is that I like to get fired from jobs often because I read too much.

I am not racist at all.  I do not seem to have the problems others do with figuring out culture.  I do not know Muslim it has been discussed and of course it is Ramadan now.  I accept that some people or cultures do not think like me.  I accept the fact that I might not always be right about everything and consign myself to never get all self-righteous, self-important and nationalistic.

Ultimately, it is up to the the poeple of South Carolina to determine how they wish to honor or not honor the past.  It is not my decision and it should not be a national debate.  You can't just erase history by getting rid of a flag that meant something completely different when it was consummated.  I really do not think it would too hard to find one my international friends or wife to say something like this, "That flag is not the problem.  The fact that you think the flag is the problem IS the problem."             

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 20:51 | 6227912 YHC-FTSE
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"The fact that you think the flag is the problem IS the problem."

Too right. It's been awhile since I shared a thread with you mate, but that was a nice story. Quite frankly I've always associated the confederate flag with endless joy I had as a kid watching Daisy in the Dukes of Hazard. An involuntary salute still happens when I see the flag. :)

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 22:26 | 6228155 erkme73
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I have an involuntary salute when I see Daisy, too.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 23:26 | 6228321 Manipuflation
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Good to see you YHC.  You would have a lot of fun hanging in the new "club" and I think you would the conversation very interesting.  I like the other cultures engaging with each other and just listening to what they say or ask.  The Dukes of Hazzard was classic though.  In a way it was sad because look at how many awesome cars they ruined in the process of filming.  Oh, well.;-)

Peace My Friend

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 23:41 | 6228347 Buster Cherry
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I liked the apartment story.

I lived in one.and the lady next door asked.me.to keep her cat over the weekend.and I did. For.whatever reason, the maintenance man came into my place and saw the litter.box and the next thing I know, I got a letter demanding.a.pet deposit. Me and the lady next door explained thi44ngs to no avail. I said go fuck yourselves. I then got an eviction notice. Since I had 3 months left, I went to my washing machine, unhooked the hot water hose, stuffed the end into the drain and turned the faucet on full.

After a month we get notices on our doors to watch for and report leaks or running toilets please. That heated water flowed for 90 fucking days.

 

I went to Westbury High School in Houston and the football team was the Rebels and the flag was, well, you know what is was....the same as the one at Robert E. Lee HS.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 20:02 | 6227744 Downtoolong
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So, we’re removing this flag because a bunch of white supremisists promoting racism and hate took it out of historical context and co-opted it as one of their symbols of identity.

Question: What are we going to do if the next symbol they co-opt to identify with is the Washington Monument, the Statue of Liberty, Mickey Mouse, or the $20 bill?

Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 20:08 | 6227769 ncdirtdigger
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What would Capt. Kirk do?

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 20:29 | 6227840 CharlieMike
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The south is going to rise again.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 20:51 | 6227916 BlussMann
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I wish - indeed I wish - where is the recruting station - I'm sick of "Americans", let them go to Hell with their endless Marxism.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 21:24 | 6227992 falconflight
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He'd violate the "Prime Directive" and interfere with extreme prejudice :)

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 20:57 | 6227881 Trucker Glock
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I don't own anything depicting the battle flag, but I do think it is more pleasing to the eye than most flags.  Must be the symmetry.  Well executed.

This rally against the flag will likely foment hatred of those who choose to display it.  I expect vandalism and maybe violence will be perpetrated, and it will be deemed acceptable, rather than a hate crime.

Edit: BTW, I'm almost 100% certain the flag in question is not the "Stars and Bars".  Why do people, particularly southerners who emabrace it, call it that?  The Stars and Bars were a series of official flags of the Confederacy.  Check me, if I'm wrong.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 23:22 | 6228267 Buster Cherry
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You are correct in that there was more than one CSA flag.

Also, the Great Seal of the Confederacy featured George Washington on horseback.

Deo Vindici....

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 21:12 | 6227972 black rifles ar...
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eBay?  Really? eBay to stop selling confederate flags but still sells Musollini commemerative coins, nazi uniforms, and Luftwaffe postcards.  Really.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 21:33 | 6228018 Skip
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…the monster little heeding…
Pounces with his mouth of venom
At the head of Lemmikainen
But the hero quick recalling
Speaks the Master words of knowledge
Words that came from distant ages
Words his ancestors had taught him

From the Kalevala, ancient Finnish epic


The world in which White boys and girls were growing up became more alien, more hostile. It was no longer their world. They no longer had a sense of family, of belonging. They no longer had clear standards and models, no longer a clear image of what was expected of them. When young Whites lost their sense of belonging in the chaotic, racially mixed world into which they suddenly were thrust in the 1960s and 1970s, many of them also lost their sense of responsibility to that world.

The only Whites who succeeded in recovering their land and culture were the original Ku Klux Klan and National Socialist Germany.

American Whites, and just about every other White homeland folks, have been poisoned by the Glass Toilet aka TV which is one of the, if not the most important weapon in J-Tribe's arsenal.
Just look at how White Christian men are portrayed on it. And in films. This is warfare of the mind.

Take away, degrade all symbols of White power and well...

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 21:38 | 6228033 MedicalQuack
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Yes this is so stupid and all the self serving presidential template folks and corporations are playing it up.  If this is not News Rigging I don't what is, as it has arrived in big fashion.  Add on the fact that there's knock off flag news with jounobots that keep rewriting the stuff-60% of what you read in the news is written by bots today.

http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2015/04/news-rigging-has-arrived-astroturf-and.html

If you want to get upset about something, look at Medication Adherence scoring,  It's a secret score and we all have one, maybe two, three or even four.  Pharmacy Benefit Managers run the software, insurers buy it as well as others and this will serve to reduce you access to drugs and in some areas it's already doing so.  This is Express Scripts and if you are a man with a woman doctor, ding for the bad.  If you have children in the home, ding for the bad and there's over 300 indexes they check.  This is total bull and it's going on now, well every time you fill a prescription, you are scored.  More damage here than any gun toting flag could do.

http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2015/06/medication-adherence-predictions-enter.html

Fico has drug adherence scoring too and they want you to have to carry around that score with you just like their FICO credit score..very scary.  

 

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 22:04 | 6228095 BlussMann
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What "populist" are pleading to take down and ban the Confederate flag ? I just see opportunistic CEO's,  first generation curry eaters and a motley collection of political degenerates demanding this. Kicking an old, frail person is so easy - and that's all poor Old Dixie has become since she was sold out by George W back in the day.

Tue, 06/23/2015 - 23:08 | 6228244 TeethVillage88s
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Prohibition never works.

- Going Cashless is Prohibition, won't work.
- Marijuana Prohibition didn't work.
- Alcohol Prohibition Didn't work.
- Hookers & Blow Prohibition Didn't work.
- After the Crack Gang Violence, Crime Sentencing Reform Didn't work.

- Fraud Prohibition Didn't work.
- Accounting Fraud Prohibition Didn't work.
- Corporate Bailouts Prohibition after Chrysler Didn't Work (Congress reluctantly passed the "Chrysler Corporation Loan Guarantee Act of 1979)
- Dodd-Frank didn't change Financial Ratings Agencies.
- Dodd-Frank didn't stop sub-prime Auto, Education, and Home Loans
- Savings & Loan Crisis didn't stop Banks from causing another Crisis in 2008.

- What Numb Nuts thinks they can Prohibit the Confederate Flag?

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 00:09 | 6228417 dag
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Maybe the sales of Confederate Flags will be the end of "political correctness."

The stinking hypocrisy has outlived its usefulness.

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 09:35 | 6229245 J Jason Djfmam
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The logic of this meme leads to this scenario: The next bad haircut with a gun that plugs

a bunch of dindu nuffins and quotes the bible or koran as his reason... Those hateful books

should finally be banned. Right?

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 09:37 | 6229253 J Jason Djfmam
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Also, that haircut? Banned!

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 14:56 | 6230411 TheGreatRecovery
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If Big Propaganda really cares about Ukrainians, they might consider devoting more attention right now to Poroshenko's mea culpa than to South Carolina's flags.

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