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Russia Fed Up With US "Lecturing" As Pentagon Deploys 250 Tanks To Eastern Europe
On Monday we noted that Europe has moved to extend economic sanctions on Russia for another six months in response to Moscow’s alleged role in fueling the violence that now plagues Eastern Ukraine. This marks the latest escalation in the ongoing standoff between the Kremlin and the West and underscores the pace at which the situation is deteriorating. Here’s a recap of recent events:
Ukraine has seen its worst outbreak of violence since February’s ‘ceasefire’ this month, with both sides blaming the other for the intensification of hostilities. Meanwhile, the US has dusted off the Cold War playbook (although, ironically, Defense Secretary Ash Carter claims Washington’s stepped up “containment” efforts are part of a new, more modern strategy designed to help America avoid being pulled back into the Cold War), suggesting heavy weapons may be stored in Eastern Europe to ensure NATO forces can deploy quickly in the face of Russian “aggression.” Last week, Belgium, Austria, and France froze Russian state assets in an attempt to enforce an effectively unenforceable ECHR decision stemming from the long-running Yukos debacle, while Germany, Norway, The Czech Republic, and The Netherlands rehearsed a Ukraine siege in Poland.
Now, just a few days after NATO’s latest proxy war dress rehearsal, and just 24 hours after Ash Carter accused Russia of "nuclear saber rattling", we have more details on the Pentagon’s plan to deploy heavy weapons in Eastern Europe. Speaking at a joint press conference, the Defense Secretary outlined the scope of US weapons deployment:
“We will temporarily stage one armoured brigade combat team's vehicles and associated equipment in countries in central and eastern Europe. This pre-positioned European activity set includes tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, artillery. [Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, Bulgaria, Romania and Poland have] agreed to host company- to battalion-sized elements of this equipment.”
(Carter looking particularly pleased on Monday)
In other words, here's what working towards de-escalation and peaceful coexistence looks like to Washington: "250 tanks, Bradleys, and self-propelled howitzers, and associated armoured brigade combat team equipment [stationed] in Baltic and Central European countries."
Meanwhile, Russia’s Commissioner for Human Rights, Democracy and the Rule of Law (yes, someone actually has that job title in Russia) has accused the US of sabatoging a bilateral agreement aimed at the pursuit of "common national interests" by adopting a "teacher-pupil" mentality. Here's TASS:
Russia is ready to conduct an equal dialogue with the United States and is against the US lecturing on democracy building principles, Russian Foreign Ministry’s Commissioner for Human Rights, Democracy and the Rule of Law Konstantin Dolgov told TASS on Tuesday.
"The Russian-American presidential commission included the civil society group, and there were plans to continue its work," Dolgov said. "But then we got the general answer that the United States was ‘so concerned’ about human rights in Russia that decided to freeze this group among the first — that’s the alogism."
"We’ve never shed and don’t shed any tears over this," the diplomat said. "By the way, the Russian and US civil societies are communicating."
He said that Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has recently commented on the general situation in relations with the United States. "We’ve received signals from the United States that they are willing to resume dialogue with us one way or another," the Russian Foreign Ministry commissioner said. "We are fully ready for such a dialogue."
The diplomat said Russia had very many problems with Washington in the human rights sphere, in particular, the situation with arrests of Russians in third countries at American requests, the situation with Russian children adopted by US families.
"Dialogue is always a two-way street. The ‘teacher-pupil’ formula will not work anymore," he said. "It will be only an equal dialogue and we are ready to conduct this kind of dialogue."
"And if they want to lecture us on democracy building ways, let them lecture students at some American university," Dolgov said.
The reference here is to the 2009 U.S.-Russian Bilateral Presidential Commission. In April of last year, the US "temporarily suspended several projects and meetings planned under the auspices of the Commission" due to what Washington calls "Russia's ongoing violation of Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity." After cancelling the projects, the US proceeded to channel the associated funds straight to Ukraine:
"Funding for these activities has instead been used to contribute to a package of U.S. assistance to Ukraine, which is supporting economic reform and addressing other pressing needs."
Fortunately for Dolgov, it doesn't appear as though he, or any other Russian diplomats for that matter, will be forced to endure a "lecture" on democracy from the US anytime soon because as the positioning of 250 Bradleys and self-propelled howitzers, and associated armoured brigade combat team equipment" in Eastern Europe makes clear, the time for dialogue of any kind has long since passed.
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But doesn't Russia not know that the US is led by a Nobel Prize Winner who has the privilege of droning women and children and wedding parties with impunity and bombing 7 Muslim countries and destabilizing Ukraine? And Russia is led by a demented "mass-murderer" per the free and fair press of the West
Forget US tanks. Where is the Pentagon putting our Russian SAM systems?
Göring: Why, of course, the people don't want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship.
Gilbert: There is one difference. In a democracy, the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars.
Göring: Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.
Sage words plainly spoken by someone who clearly knew the subtleties of the game...
Hermann was no fool. Pompous maybe, but no fool.
The Pentagon is running out of places to use their toys
Oh, don't worry about that. The neocons are rummaging around in Asia for new wars.
A lot of thinkers compared USA as a young nation with a spoiled brat and we all know what a spoiled brat does when he is getting old: a lot of drinking, a lot of debt, a big mouth, pushing everybody, it all finishes with a blow in the nose from the most sitted and remote guy that had enough, then all the people come to give a punch and collect the debt.
USA 239 years and counting.
Soviet Union 69 years and "kaput".
Modern Russia less than 24 years.
I see your point, but what does it have to do with the USA?
And what about the Russia that every single Russian ( not our political masters in the US ) identifies with? Or is it inconvenient to your point to look at the country's origin in late 10th century?
"it all finishes with a blow in the nose from the most sitted and remote guy that had enough, then all the people come to give a punch and collect the debt."
That's what.
You people cry like women. Obama is showing Putin who the boss is. America rules the world. Get used to it.
You protest like a paid .gov stooge. Who is worse?
uh the country we know has Russia has existed in one form or another - ideology aside - for more than 900 years.
Got to stage them there so they can be used/destroyed in a false flag event that can then be blamed on Russia. Then there will be an excuse to attack as a 'defensive action'.
A comment from Dmitry Orlov
"You want to invest in military hardware? Well, nobody wants tired old American stuff; just about everybody—even our friends the Iraqis, and now even the Saudis—are interested in buying Russian. Plus the Americans don't even know what to do with the stuff they already have. Accidentally give some more of it to ISIS or to the Yemenis? Abandon it in Afghanistan for the Taliban to play with? The latest plan is to stockpile it on Russia's borders, so that the Russians can use it for target practice, blowing it up with their long-range artillery without having to invade anyone."
http://cluborlov.blogspot.co.uk/2015/06/pop-goes-bubble.html
The USSA makes a lot of expensive shit now. See who General Dynamics - Crown/Krinsky crime family really is.
http://www.abeldanger.net/2014/05/the-zionist-criminal-network-of-chicag...
http://www.abeldanger.net/2014/04/crown-crime-family-of-chicago.html
You will understand more why JFK and RFK were whacked and why they push endless war. LBJ and Obola's close ties with these criminals. They just want endless war so Congress can buy more and more shitty tanks and other weapons system for "full spectrum" shittiness.
The Iraqis supposedly were buying Russian stuff last month or the month before and Russian tanks were being delivered to Iraq.
http://rt.com/news/192528-iraq-russia-air-defense/
Those Bradleys are supposed to be rolling coffins. They have a high profile and originally they had aluminum "armor". Maybe they still do?
Wanna know more about the Bradley Infantry Fighting Vehicle ? Watch "The Pentagon Wars". It's actually quite funny... and educative !
It won't even get that far, I think.
This kind of announcement isn't geared to intimidate Moscow, it's designed to send a message to the domestic press that the leadership of the USA is doing something. It's about telling the media to up the anti-Putin invective and propaganda. Which, of course, the MSM is always fully willing to abide. This is the illusion of taking action. Expect the DoD and the MSM to meter out this constantly. Dribble here, spurt there. Simply to keep the anti-Putin memories fresh and lingering.
But pieces like this are for domestic consumpition. Putin afraid of a tiny number of Bradleys? I dn't think so. Iraqi farmer and Afghani beggars made mincemeat of ISAF and the American military. The US military is a paper tiger and everyone knows it, just few are willing to publicly admit it.
it's not surprise that American battlefield commanders now have the right to go "nuclear" in the field. Even the Pentagon and those that run the show all know this.
It's about outprinting the Russians. It worked in the 80's, why not try it again? Remember who is manning the presses. They need an exponential expansion of debt to keep this fucker from imploding. Where can we get some more in large chunks?
Where is John Kerry in all of this? I haven't heard a peep out of him for weeks. I wonder how hig broken leg is doing. Maybe there is something to that rumor about him getting shot.
Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.
Wasn't it the very same US military that showed the World how easy it is to cook troops in tanks in Iraq?
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Goodness, comment section on a hilarious roll today, one after another.
Very funny Mr. Shogun...
You definitely don't want to be their POW.
Maybe the US is leaving the military hardware there for ISIS to pick up on its march to the North Pole?
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I'm starting a book on when WWIII is going to kick off.
Wagers in gold only please.Dates,not months.
You're a little late. WWIII has already kicked off. Try to keep up.
For the historians, if any survive, yes, WWIII started 2 days ofter the Sochi olympics.
Open conflict between NATO and Russia(and its allies in the SCO), if you please.
The PR blitz started before the Sochi olympics with those stupid Sochi toilet photos.
The sheeple ate that shit up.
There has been subtle anti russian propaganda in the USA since the cold war, and Putin has been a target since around the time the US realized he wasnt going to be bought by them. But yes, the very aggressive and in your face propaganda started before Sochi. I wonder how the lemmings can be so blind as to not notice the coincidence. The lemmings will get what they deserve for their gullibility and stupidity. I wont feel sorry for them when the East crushes them..
Putin was bought.
They have the receipt.
WWF is less harmful and more entertaining than this nationalistic bullshit. Fuck all mentally ill statists and their wars.
World Wildlife Fund? You must be referring to WWE... they lost a legal battle to take the name of an animal conservation society and put it on an imaginary pretend "sport" soap opera. That tells you everything you need to know about Americas priorities.
https://algoestacambiando.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/wwf.gif
Help me out here: The World Wildlife Fund is not a scam?
Ashton carter, looks like a douchebag....I didn't even know who this douche was until now....FTGE.
Ashton Carter is a hardened warrior whose tactical genius was honed via hours and hours of Dungeons & Dragons in his parent's basement.
Dungeons & Dragons = Pussy Repellant
Is it just me, or does he have a striking resemblance to Alfred E Newman?
He has another nickname - Stoobie as in "My God, who left the stoobie that's blocking the toilet".
I was very happy to have no idea who the current SecDef is.
One day I hope to be as equally happy to have no idea who POTUS is.
Ashton Carter knows what side of his bread to put Zion's butter.
And where near Russia to place the goy tripwire.
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission..
They replaced Chuck Hagel, a combat verteran with this know it all ivy league neocon cunt - Hagel probably had too many just and rational reservations about the asinine Pentagon plan they got going on now. Remember the endless hearings to confirm Hagel to his post because Graham, McCain and Kommandant Netanyahu were worried he wasn't pro-israel enough? No such concerns with WASPy over here - look at the picture on Wikipedia of him and tell me this doesn't spring immediately to mind:
"Something about your face makes me want to slap the shit put of it."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashton_Carter
If any military personnel want to achieve the term "hero" around this house they would need to address the glaring deficiency in their duty to defend against all enemies domestic. Until that time they are guilty of dereliction of duty and will be treated as such.
Ill go one better Booboo. No one's a Patriot till we see treasonous fucks accountable. Till then I see know Patriots.
Nuke israel. Problems solved.
Nope. Israel is a big part of the problem it is not the whole of the problem.
Israel is just the neocon Mothership.
Israel was created as a shell corporation to hold the global crime syndicate operation for the khazars. Then they had their hollyweird engine create the mythology of the italian crime syndicates, who in reality, were reporting to the khazars. Then with the creation of the holohoax myth, they painted themselves as the timeless victims of the world. A global scam of epic proportions.
True. The khazar scum have infiltrated all countries. What is needed is something that would unravel the dna of the khazars and turn them into fire hydrants. Then, the dogs could pass out the necessary treatment.
Do something then. Stop being fed up.
I wonder what it would would cost Putin to have Enrique Peña Nieto's press secretary simply announce that Russia had been invited to station an armored brigade in Tijuana to prevent any further arms from Holder/Lynch reaching the rebels in Mexico... The US already signed NAFTA and the exported jobs, and much like the EU- there is no expulsion mechanism, even if the corporate overlords were willing to accept political encroachment on their sovereignty. Nothing like staring at a tank up close to drive home the lethal stupidity on display to bunch of retards who couldn't find the Baltics on a map.
Mexico is bought and paid for by the same fuckers that own us.
Encourage Putin to first establish the Russian equivalent of the National Endowment for Democracy. Then, flush with cash, dump it all into Bahraini NGOs.
Then we can watch Washington annex Bahrain to protect it's naval base.
This might be profitable...
if they can grow bananas in their spare time.
Sampson Option right around the corner by these Pure Evil Meglomanics.
I took my dad to breakfast on Sunday and this topic came up. Basically, the both of us are completely fed-up with obozo doing everything he can to bring us to war with the Russians. If theres a problem in Ukraine, let the EU or UN be the first to bring it up for debate & go from there. Why do we have to piss in putin’s backyard? I said to my dad “how would we like it if putin were loading the Canadian border with tanks, mexican border with stealth bombers, panama canal with warships?” he agreed saying “I would expect our president to do whatever by whichever means necessary to protect us.” its like we didn’t learn from the Cuban missile crisis. That wasn’t enough to almost go right up to the brink of annihilating each other. We are both superpowers and need to start acting like it. surrounding his land boarders with tanks, stealths & water bodies with aircraft carriers, subs, etc. – is it any mystery why he is strengthening his alliances with china? and when Obama talks about an “Asian piviot” why are we surprised when china builds these military islands in the south china sea.
I gotta much better idea. Since we are energy independent now, why don’t bring our boys back here, start actually enforcing our own border instead of wondering what other people are doing with their own, and start focusing ALL our resources on our single biggest national threat; this $19 trillion & growing debt. Wanna get that # continuing in the wrong direction? keep bombing the shit out of countless countries, keep overthrowing leader after leader, and focus on “nation building” other peoples lands instead of our own.
'cause its much easier to bomb your creditors than pay them.
I agree with a lot of your post. If the Fed is the lender of last resort, Uncle Sam is the borrower of last resort. Gotta make the money that pays the interest on making money that pays the interest on making mon. . . . .
If the USG stops borrowing it all implodes.
Interesting that you should write this. The Fed and US Treasury keep swapping the same money back and forth. If we individuals did so, we would be arrested for check kiting.
I think the rabbit hole is deeper than that. I think the USSA abd Japana swap debt back and forth as does USSA and Europe.
It is a global kiting ponzi.
As far as Amerika? The citizens or really serfs got sold out again today by CON-Gress.
Your solution is for reasonable people. However, we are watching events orchestrated by power-mad, greedy psychopaths, Dr. Nos by the thousands backed by the most expensive, most powerful military force in the history of the world...they believe.
Morality is not a part of their essence. Humanity is not a resource to them, merely a commodity, as disposable as a plastic spoon.
They are evil incarnate.
Problem is - we are not energy independent. All else I generally agree with.
Please mark my words. You'll look back on obama's term as the good old days. Look at the crowd that's running now, each trying to outdo one another as how best to punish Putin and dismember Russia.
In place of Putin to power in the Kremlin can come very odious figure. After that, Putin will be remembered as a holy angel.
In Russia now there are forces that require Putin immediately destroy two, three or four US aircraft carrier.
People in Russia are well aware that the US and NATO have no real powers and capabilities to defeat Russia in war on land in the vast territory of Russia.
These people asked Putin in Russia is only one simple question:
"What can actually make Washington, in response to the destruction of the 6th US fleet, excluding the three day mourning?"
Nuclear attack, on which Russia will respond attack retaliation even before the first US missiles hit their targets on the territory of Russia?
Bad news [for us all]. If we don't find a good fight soon, this thing continues to spiral down toward eventual collapse. There is no way to reduce the debt as the system is now setup to continue to accumulate debt at very low interest rates in order to extend this mess for as long as possible. Why not let it reset--Maybe just too messy and too much risk. Sooner or later, though, someone is going to get hungry.
America is not competitive in the global marketplace and is "forced" to continue moving any remaining production from here to China/India/Mexico/Vietnam/somewhere else further diminishing middle class and below jobs. This also means we need more [illegal] immigrant labor willing to work at wages much lower than is palatable or economically viable to Americans to even attempt to compete with imported foods, goods, services and etc. This will continue to erode the jobs of middle class and lower class citizens and will only get worse as time goes by. The current "trade agreement" will insure that this gets much worse.
Our significant trade imbalance will ultimately result in more and more American companies, resources, properties and debt being handed over [sold] to foreign interests resulting in even greater foreign influence over our political and financial systems.
There is a vast difference between our grandparent’s America and the one we inhabit today. You want to do something about it? Stop playing the game. Get out of debt and set aside some provisions and items or knowledge and skill with which to barter. Invest in real relationships with other people you know you can trust. Develop some practical skills for you and your family. Camping can teach you a lot about connecting with and beginning to understand nature again. Appleseed can teach you and your family, in a fun and safe environment, how to shoot properly. Owning and reading the right books can help you prepare and be a store of potential knowledge. Turn down the TV and push back from the screens to dial down the incessant conditioning. Make good decisions about eating and exercise for you and your family. All of this can be family fun and educational at the same time but we have to stop soaking up the morsels we are being shown as "truth."
Good luck!
The Archdruid had an article published here a few weeks ago but he's one of the people I've been reading for a long time. You'd resonate, I think.
http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.com/
Thanks, btw, to the guy who linked him here in comments at ZH a few years ago. A real blessing.
Thank you for the link. I don't believe I was aware of that blog but enjoyed the one I read. Adding a bookmark.
Unplug TV and Zollywood for good.
CON-Gress sells out the Amerika serfs again today to TPP,TPA,TISA, et al.
The GOP-e is in lockstep with Obola and the Dems.
Make sure that when you see grandma and grandpa that you thank them for starting us down this road. Where would we be without the ponzi we were born into?
I am not directing this comment at your comment and even if I were I'd be pointing directly at myself. We have got to stop blaming this madness on everyone except ourselves. We are not plants or simple animals. We can change our environment but we haven't. We sit around and lament where we perceive we are but do nothing about it.
If you're like me you are waiting on a leader to come along and say all the things that you are feeling and lay out a sensible non-violent plan that you can throw all your passion, energy and maybe even some money into to advance that guy's and your ideas.
That is probably not going to happen and if it does, we should be especially vigilant as in the past that ended disastrously.
Non-participation is about the best I can muster right now as I have a lot of children and maybe, just maybe, this thing slowly lumbers along for the next 50 years wich is beyond my lifespan and ability to physically help/participate.
Let's stop blaming and start laying out exactly what we want.
Do not be offended--I am just thinking out loud and talking to myslf.
I'm eating lots of fiber.
You just don't want to be irregular during the final apocalypse.
The only real important part of this story is the "250 tanks"-which had to be placed somewhere
Russia is merely the excuse.
American taxpayers got stuck with the bill...er I mean debt...and some contractors walked way with the cash,
New target for Iskander missiles.
Ya don't bring a tank to a missile fight.
In modern warfare the tanks, the planes, the infantry units are nothing more than mobile recon drones and radio relay pylons.
There is a little bit of rock paper scissors going on where aerial units take out ground defenses and ground units clear anti-air targets, but only if valuable infrastructure is involved that is worth preserving (like oil refineries). Everywhere else missiles and drones do the talking. Boots on the ground are only utilized when something needs building, like another permanent US base on foreign soil, or a hashish plantation in Afghanistan.
Stalin told FDR, "I understand you need to make sure your manufacturers can make more money, but your tanks and other heavy weapons suck big time. Just send me more Jeeps, bacon, wheat and sugar instead."
Kabuki, tanks are obsolete against conventional 1st world 21st century state military weapons, Russia has RPGs and manpands that can kill any tank they can see, tanks are good for suppressing disarmed civilian populations.
For the cost of 1 EU tank Russia can kill 1000 tanks for the same price with RPGs.
There wont be another great tank battle like Kursk, more like a WW1 style turkey shoot by drones where afrerwards the tank team is bankrupt and took zero territory on account of tanks arent missile proof.
Like to see Putin wipe the fake smile off his face!
You know that fuckin weenie Carter would shit his pants if Putin walked into a room he was in
Fuck Vichy DC and the clowns in Eastern Europe and Polska!
Remember Russia, in combat fighting 'no head shots'. The Homer Simpson Doctrine.
Global World Debt $200 Trillion. Excluding the Fruadulent Derivatives.
Global World GDP $60 Trillion.
Next phase by these Pure Evil Meglomanic Suicide Banksters unequivocally will be War to distract the steeple from the Engineered Collapse. All done by design, all done by Agenda.
Global World Debt $200 Trillion
You are selling the land of the free short:
“I told them the real (2014) deficit was $5 trillion, not the $500 billion or $300 billion or whatever it was announced to be this year. Almost all the liabilities of the government are being kept off the books by bogus accounting. . . . The government is 58% underfinanced . . . . Social Security is 33% underfinanced . . . . So, the entire government enterprise is in worse fiscal shape than Social Security is, but they are both in terrible shape.” So, how much is America on the hook for in the future? Kotlikoff contends, “If you take all the expenditures that the government is expected to make, as projected by the Congressional Budget Office (CBO), all the spending on defense, repairing the roads, paying for the Supreme Court Justices’ salaries, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, welfare, everything and take all those expenditures into the future . . . and compare that to all the taxes that are projected to come in, and the difference is $210 trillion. That’s the fiscal gap. That’s our true debt.”
http://usawatchdog.com/financial-system-will-collapse-just-a-matter-of-w...
Can you spot me $10 Trillion?
Sorry, I left it my other jacket.
Which one? I'll get it for you I was just getting up anyway.
Probably. I'm just not sure when the people will become restless enough that TPTB will stop normal Business to have the War.
And the Reasons for War would be Currency Collapse, Total Debt, Collapse of Bond Market, Inequality, Loss of Middle Classes except for Government Employees, Consistent Evidence of Slavery & Piracy & Fraud leading to Mass Mistrust of the System & Government.
Its all like the same thing in the end.
We don't have the Requirements for Democracy.
- National Govt is a Republic, but with money in politics, gift giving, soft money, money as free speech ... there is no representation for the Taxes, Subsidies, and Stewardship of the USD
- State & Local Governments lose democracy in each instance that they depend on Federal Govt Funding... such as immigration, Amnesty, Free Trade, Tax Loopholes for the Wealthy, Education Policy, Integrity of Pension & Retirement Funds & Exchange Markets & Financial Ratings & Banks Inflating the Supply of Money & FED attempts to create inflation & Housing Inflation & Corporate Bailouts & Financial Exchanges & Banks being Self Regulatory Organization & Lawyers Destroying the US Constitution and making all laws, Taxes, Banking, Contracts, Regulations, Loopholes... too complicated for the K-12 Education Provided
- Suggest Term Limits for Bankers, Lawyers, Judges, Politicians to no more than 6 years
- Law of the Land should be Simplify, Streamline, and Standardize, this means break up the Corporate MSM, TBTF, Free Trade Deals, and Monopolies
- Courts should serve the people especially the poor and middle class, should be limits on liabilities, limits on Money Spent on Legal Teams, Courts need guidelines and benchmarks to get things moving and so that Wealthy Banks for instance can be prosecuted for fraud, money laundering or whatever violations
- Wealthy Corporations have Extreme power and little fear of prosecution, this is why we have Anti-trust Laws, and Laws against Racketeering, Price Setting, plus Banks Funded WWI & WWII directly extending the wars length... all the more reason to simplify them, break them up, make them Transparent
- Some way should be found to reduce the secrecy & Spread of Responsibility of the Central Government & Federal Reserve System... neither take any responsibility except for basic welfare and Superpower Status... Just how is the Central Republic Government Responsive to the People??
- State & Local Government must come to understand that they must be part of the Effort to Control Central Government with Papers, Petitions, Protests, Office Visits, Press Conferences, Townhall Meetings... to bring voice of the people to the fore front
"...the positioning of 250 Bradleys and self-propelled howitzers, and associated armored brigade combat team equipment" in Eastern Europe makes clear, the time for dialogue of any kind has long since passed."
Well it doesn't have to mean war this year or even in 3 years.
It could just be the basis of Fiscal Policy Stimulus and the already projected Higher Funding for DoD in 2016. Maybe call it a quiet stimulus for the US Economy which will partly leak money into Eastern Europe Economies.
Or it is also further proof that the Zio-Neocons are still in power.
The Russians don't realize that this isn't threatening, John McCain takes 4 destroyers with him just to take a bath.....and 1 pink rubber ducky.
They might be in on the joke. They may feel they have too many young people in a slow economy, but know that war equipment stresses the local populations in Europe especially when they tare up the roads.
And this is not a big threat, not much equipment.
Nationalism increases with some international tension. This makes people like Putin even more.
Putin wins as he gets more money to invest in his Military.
"Or it is also further proof that the Zio-Neocons are still in power."
What part of Obama's Zio-Neocon Policy would lead you to believe that Obama is NOT a Zio tool and a Neo-Con?
Both the Economy is slowing, needs investment, needs reforms, capital needs to be stopped from leaking out of the economy,... and Obama is a Zio-Neocon war monger.
"And if they want to lecture us on democracy building ways, let them lecture students at some American university,"
Sorry Dolgov, no time for that the Universities are busy teaching socialism in between women's studies and advance analysis of spongebob.
Too late...SpongeBob in Russian Armed Forces
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhuzb3WMntc
+100 Hilarious
I know they are thinking of their stupid, American, cannon-fodder, bankster-loving opponents every time they yell "Sponge Bob Sauare Pants".
Russia may yet save humanity.
+1. I would add: American students are not interested in studying democracy because it is too abstract, does not apply to the real world, and they cannot get a programming job with it. They might as well study English Lit. for all the good it will do them.
Now that the ME is completely and utterly fucked up for at least the next two generations, the neocon must plant the seeds of generational conflict in the heart of Europe. Warring on Russia has always been their favorite thing. They'll get rich no matter who's "in charge" of the plantation. Zionist fucks.
Nuke DC. Thank You
....and please do it soon............
WTF are Bradley's going to do? Like their name sake, nothing... Fing trip wire at best.
Did he say it shirtless.
I have some millenials that work for me and they too are fed up with the DC war mongering. Seems the neocons are only pleasing their tribal masters
Haha, you said you have millenials that work. LOL
Just kidding. They sound like they are awake.
Notice the little expense and participation of NATO countries in all of these UN Actions or US Wars?
Now why do we the people have to spend our Tax Dollars and send our kids and people to war in Europe for a NATO Agreement? And the Cost of War is more than Dollars, injuries, rape, disease, refugees, destruction of homes, businesses and economies. There are huge human costs.
Why? Because the USA is a Superpower with a Strong Central Government, an aggressive Foreign Policy, and they don't want to lose world power or standing.
So... is that what we want? To go fight in Europe Again. And be lied to about why we have to fight, about how the war is fought honorably not like a Dirty War, and how honest our US Leaders are.
There are plenty of ignorant bull queer rednecks in the south who raise their boys to be men! and serve their cuntry, right or wrong, all that. Put 'em together with the prospectless blacks and white lower class from the rest of the country, and you've got yerself more than one army--THIS MAN'S ARMY, SON!--will ever need.
Amurika!
I don't have to stand for the national anthem in Michigan and I don't.
There's your test of freedom, friends.
But if you go down south, you better stand when they play Dixie.
Exactly.
Right you are! My country borders Ukraine and if our Gov`t asks for popular help to fight there, they will have an uprising overnight.
Did we build a radio station in the Ukraine? Did the Russians take it from us wiith their light horseback cavalry? This cannot be tolerated. Welcome to the 4th Reich, it's been waiting for you.
Pleased to meet you, hope you guess my name.
An ICBM into any Euro Trash country that accepts Vichy DC armaments. Fucking WHORES & PIKERS.
That makes Uncle Scam the pimp.
Winny, Netanyahoo lives in Israel.
Relax there will be no war this is a move to show the allies they can count on US.
we as civilization do not deserve to live if we allow some warmongers to rule us
Kill yourself then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMKqKruzZro
Somebody will do something stupid (see Maidan putsch).
Things will turn nasty (see Eastern Ukraine).
West will be forced to do the only thing it knows how to do (see summary of wars, military interventions and arming of most radical elements in last 50 years).
At which point the only thing Putin needs to do is to keep his word (Russia will not be a vassal state).
... And the rest of dominoes will fall...
Story says, "in response to Moscow’s alleged role in fueling the violence that now plagues Eastern Ukraine."
Let's say I'm a citizen of Donbas. I speak Russian and think of myself as a Ukrainian of ethnic Russian heritage.
An illegal violent coup with neo-nazi banderist thugs overthrows the legally elected government and is replaced with people hand picked by the USA . The first thing they want to do is outlaw the Russian language. The language of millions of Ukrainians. Instead of coming to Donbas and greeting the people with an embrace and a helping hand they send tanks and artillary to bomb them. What's their crime you ask? They are Ukrainians that speak Russian and are ethnic Russians. So the people of Donbas rise up to defend themselves. Why is the US media portraying these courageous people "rebels" as terrorists and why do they say or think that Russia is fueling this?
What amazes me, disturbs and sickens me the most is our (US) involvement in the violent undemocratic overthrow of a sovereign independant nation. Then our placing the blame for the consequences of this action upon Russia and Putin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&x-yt-ts=1422503916...
http://rt.com/news/nuland-phone-chat-ukraine-927/
A prescient comment in a novel from 2000 about the life of a WW II era military historian, especially relating battles on the eastern front.
Prince of the Clouds by Gianni Riotta.
"Telling a Russian Die or I'll make you a slave is the best way to convince him to resist"
Too true. Many Americans are now self-indentured serfs.
A video of the 'terrorists' at work in Donetsk celebrating the 74th anniversary of the start of the Nazi invasion of Russia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPtAg9iPzNw
Their govt found it very easy to force the Russian people to die by the millions in battles where the Russian soldiers lives were given very little value. Then after these great sacrifices the russian people sat quivering in their apartments while millions were rounded up and killed in the purges. The russians also starved by the millions due to their govt's actions (some say that was intentional).
They are a sturdy people and in some ways very brave and in other ways natural servants and slaves. Since WW1 corruption has been extensive.
I do not claim the US to be better, other than ecomomically.
Let's point out that the Bolsheviks came from NY City and were not russian christians. The Bolshies were backed by NY, London and German tribe banskters.
They murdered 25 million Russian Christians. Then they murdered another 50 million russians and Europeans including Germns in a huge bankster war where the banksters backed BOTH sides. They backed Hitler til the end with aviation gas using ethyl that only rockefeller standard oil could make.
Then the same scum tried to loot Russia helped by Yeltsin. Yeltsin did one good thing in appointing Putin. Putin kciked many of them out.
The want back into Russia to muder and steal again.
Who are these murderers? Dual shit-i-ZZen typeZ like Nudelman, Schumer, Yatz, Porky Poroshenko aka Shllomo Waltzman. How many names does Waltzman have like Soetero?
Helped by their goy Neocon and NeoLib puppets like McCain, Rubio, Graham and the others.
It was not "Their government" your ignorance shows...
Soviet was never a Russian construct
from 1917 thru Stalin was never Russians in control
Stalin was not a Russia. He was a Georgian, and a criminal from youth
Even Kruschev and Breznev were Ukraine nationals
and Gorby half Ukrainian
Was it not the govt in control of the Russians? Or did the Russians move in from other parts of the world after there was a change of leadership? At the time were Georgians and Ukraine nationals part of the same govt that also included the ethnic "Russians"?
Point is the ethnic "Russians" submitted and kneeled as I described. Or were they ethnic "Soviets" prior to the change and only Russians after?
Your comments about Stalin are correct. And he had little trouble exterminating millions of citizens of the Soviet Union which included present day Russia and the ethnic Russians within.
The Bolshevik leaders were primarily non-Russian foreign Jews -(80% of Lenin's original Politboro and Central Committee were non Russian jews) funded by Western Jewish banksters. Once they purged a lot of Jews from key leadership roles under Stalin, non-Russians along with these same Jews continued in leadership roles. Up to 66 million Russian Chrsitians were murdered by these devils, so don't blame Russia or Russians.
And as I said the Russians sat quivering in their apartments as millions were slowly rounded up and purged (murdered). I am sure they were brave in how they submitted and obeyed their masters as they obediently marched off to be put down or worked to death. What they did not do is revolt and organize. They will march into battle when their owners command but are not prone to organized rebellion. It was the Bolshevik's, who I believe to be majority jewish and those economicly controlled by the jews, who have been able to organize and lead an armed revolt.
If you want to learn about the mass murder of Russian Christians - read what Alexander Solzenitzyn (sp?) wrote. He was a devout Christian,
Stumpy - as others have already pointed out, your summary leaves out the Jewish, bankster aspect of the greatest mass murderers the world has ever seen, ie. Genrikh Yagoda
The other problem with your summary is that you have it ass-backwards. The purges occurred before what Russians call "The Great Patriotic War", Not afterwards. Stalin the communist, had to start making appeals to the people on behalf of Mother Russia, which until that point they had been doing their utmost, best to destroy. Russians follow their leader. When the leadership was usurped in a bankster coup, they were left in confussion. When their homeland is threatened, they know what to do.
B-b-but they hate us for our freedoms!
but that role is reversed now
obvious who are the haters....
Here's one of my brave, courageous fellow Texans doing his best to aid and defend the citizens of Donbass. I want to meet this man when he returns to Austin.
http://rusvesna.su/english/1434399155
Excellent video. Graham Philips and Texas, two excellent human beings.
YOU'RE IN THE CROSSHAIRS VLAD.
Putin will not budge, he has a backbone and balls of steel.
Pat Buchanon story published today--Good Read
http://buchanan.org/blog/nato-russia-collision-ahead-16176
Pat's a good read.
What's interesting is almost 50% of Amerikans are good with a high probability of being incinerated... and for what?
He says
"Lest we forget, while it was Khrushchev who backed down in the Cuban missile crisis,"
Documents from the Kennedy archive tell a different story. The ante was being raised by military and civilian hawks in both USA and USSR. Kennedy and Krushchev could both see where things were heading and came to a deal to resolve it. The Soviets stated they would pull their missiles out of Cuba if the USA pulled their missiles out of Turkey (which is why the Soviets put theirs in Cuba). Kennedy agreed, with a proviso that pull out from Turkey would not be mentioned in public. Kruschev accepted. Thus the myth that the Soviets blinked was born.
They didn't just blink...
They dozed off to sleep.
The Soviets stated they would pull their missiles out of Cuba if the USA pulled their missiles out of Turkey . . .
FYI - Later it was revealed that the USA had plans to pull the Jupiter missles out of Turkey long before the Cuban Missle Crisis because they were obsolete.
Pretty much the same people who murdered 25 million Christian Russians after 1917 are in charge of the USSA, Europe, Canada and other parts. Dual Shit-i-ZZen types.
If they need to murder 50 to 200 million to stay in control, they will do it.
I am not sure about that. Careful analysis shows that Putin has been the appeaser in at least 3 different conflicts.
He allowed NATO to take out Libya's Qaddafi. He is allowing attacks on Syria's Assad.
He also allowed the Ukrainian situation to develop to its current state. He was the one who advised Yanukovych, the overthrown president of Ukraine not to use force on the Maidan protesters. Even when the coup occurred he could have stepped in and restored the previous government. The US has set such a precedent in Haiti with restoring Aristide.
In reality Putin offers very little resistance.
Does anyone remember his "red line" of protecting ethnic Russians in Ukraine. He made that statement shortly after the coup in Kiev. Besides providing some black ops support in East Ukraine, Putin has not lived up to his promise.
Say what you will about how fucked up US but if someone attacked a crucial partner nation the US military would be in action really fast.
You do not see Russia attacking Jordan or Saudi Arabia or any of the piss ant United Emirates. They know it would lead to a war with the US.
The US has no such fear when it comes to Russia.
That is the frighting reality, because one day they will push them too far and then it all hell will break loose.
restoring the Ukrainian government would never have given Russia the permanent control of Crimea that it has now.
Noodleman never sleeps.
Rememeber Medvedyev was the President when Libya happened and he is always viewed as more Western-leaning, at least by the USSA establishment. Not that it's an excuse, look at Libya today. Was a fucking paradise compared to what it is now
Any overt Russian presence in the Ukraine gives truth to the western propaganda clarion of "Russian aggression". What he is doing now is dividing Europe over the folly of sanctions. Hurting your economies for the glory of Uncle Sam is seeming more and more stupid as time passes.
And think of Syria without ANY Russian/Iranian/Hezbollah backing - Assad is as good as gone years ago.
Russia attacking any small nation, oil producing or otherwise, makes them look like the USSA bully. They do not operate by bombing first and asking questions later. That would make Saudi Arabia, etc, look like the victims, and not the family-run oil tyrannies they actually are. Again, giving the western press a "see i told ya so about Russian aggression."
It could all get very ugly, very fast. I for one am glad for the prudence of the Russian leadership.
. . . . I for one am glad for the prudence [and restraint] of the Russian leadership.
Ditto!!