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600 Years Of Global War & Peace

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For around 500 years, war (and the deaths from them) were pretty consistently awful. Then as we entered the 20th century the military and civilian death rate soared as the world fought through two world wars. Since then, despite the headlines, deaths and wars have tailed off dramatically... until the last decade that is - which has seen the trend change significantly. With Soros among the many worried about World War 3, we suspect the current dip will be nothing but a positive outlier in history.

 

 

As Vox concludes,

A recent paper, by Nassim Nicholas Taleb and Pasquale Cirillo, argued that our current peaceful era was a statistical myth: that dips in war deaths should be expected, as Roser's chart shows, and that there's no reason to believe this time should be different.

 

Pinker and others argue, by contrast, that things really have changed: that the rise of democracy, capitalism, industrial civilization, and international institutions like the UN have radically transformed the way global politics operates.

 

It's impossible to know who's right for sure. But Roser's chart makes clear that, whatever the reason, we should be counting our blessings today.

Source: MaxRoser at OurWorldInData

 

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Wed, 06/24/2015 - 22:33 | 6231944 SpasticGramps
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We've been in the eye of the storm for a while.

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 22:42 | 6231970 gladius17
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This article was written by morons, for morons.

"It's impossible to know who's right for sure."

If you're a moron, sure.

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 22:44 | 6231977 gladius17
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On that chart I see a dip just before a HUGE GOD DAMNED DILDO SHAPED SPIKE. But maybe that's just me and my lying eyes.

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 22:49 | 6231997 Usurious
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what they forgot to teach you in HSchool.......

 

the british/european empires wrote the book on GENOCIDE......

http://worldsworstmassmurderer.blogspot.com.au/2012/03/britain-worlds-wo...

 

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 23:07 | 6232048 froze25
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Ferengi rules of acquisition 

34. War is good for business.

35.Peace is good for business.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 00:58 | 6232339 MonetaryApostate
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I wonder how many of those involved European Countries.... >.>

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 05:07 | 6232592 turnoffthewater
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One has to wonder where the civilian deaths are located on the chart since only military was charted

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 05:15 | 6232595 Jadr
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You misread the chart.  It counted all deaths in the main line.  Only the blue line showed military only deaths.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 06:51 | 6232665 BlowsAgainstthe...
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The necocons are furious that war/conflict deaths have dropped on their watch, and they're working hard to get those numbers back up.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 07:57 | 6232799 old naughty
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dropped...hence they turned to GMO, chemtrail, bio-warfares, or generally using handheld devices to mass-wiping folks.

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 22:50 | 6232001 NoDebt
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The nuclear bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki gave the global elites a bit of pause about how to conduct warfare from them on.  But as sure as I'm typing this, they WILL eventually try it anyway.  Agreed on the "HUGE GOD DAMNED DILDO SHAPED SPIKE". They think there's too damned many people at this point anyway, so why the hell not?

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 22:59 | 6232020 weburke
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"dropped"? you, are not informed.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 08:08 | 6232822 samcontrol
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WTF

say whaaaaat ?    Not " dropped " ?

Fuck i believe in just about anything , but two  " walk in,  dirty nukes" in 1945 just not possible..

So underground, launched, american kamikazees, godzilla carried it  , aliens ? please inlighten me weburk.

 

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:29 | 6233227 TheReplacement
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If Fukushima is not the answer then you are asking the wrong question.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 06:02 | 6232632 epicurious
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All the explorer clubs from Europe brought the germs as well as the guns and steel wherever they went and had a technological supremacy.  Good thing we just handed China all our tech know how.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:30 | 6233237 TheReplacement
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That is a lovely theory but why did not North American germs have an adverse affect on Europeans?

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:56 | 6233397 manofthenorth
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Syphilis

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 08:05 | 6232812 snodgrass
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More historical bullshit. The spike on the right is called the genocide of the Jews. WW II killed about 50 million non-Jews but those aren't noted. Instead the fake deaths of Jews are. Once again, there was no Nazi holocaust. It's a lie. More non-Jews than Jews died in the concentration camps and they died of typhus. Once the allied bombing campaign started, they died, along with everyone else, from bombs and ultimately starvation.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 08:21 | 6232852 TuPhat
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So many on this site can't read a simple chart.  The deaths of all are included in the red line.  It isn't just the bubbles if you read it right.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:31 | 6233243 snodgrass
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I can read. Can you think? Why are the fake deaths of Jews noted but not the deaths of 50 million real people except in some stupid bubble?

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 22:35 | 6231951 SafelyGraze
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I have found definitive evidence that Darth Vader was not killed the way people think, nor was he buried at sea.

details in my forthcoming book.

hugs,
seymourhirsch 

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 22:52 | 6232003 NoDebt
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Luke Skywalker worked for the banks, same as his father.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 08:10 | 6232825 samcontrol
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philippe works at a bank?

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 22:36 | 6231953 Cacete de Ouro
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War is good for the Rothschilds

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 22:45 | 6231987 Monetas
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230 Muslim invasions .... 5 Crusades .... aggression begets war .... weakness invites it .... I think it'll be around awhile !

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 22:55 | 6231993 i_call_you_my_base
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This data is bullshit. I'm sure they had great records in the 1400s. And what constitutes death by war?

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:33 | 6233256 TheReplacement
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Do not forget that Africa and Asia are not well represented on that chart. 

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 22:49 | 6231996 Yen Cross
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 Looks like a FED rate increase , "plot chart".

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 22:53 | 6232007 q99x2
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As long as Soros goes in the upcoming war it will be ok.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 09:34 | 6233043 large_wooden_badger
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Surely Soros will be going long for the upcoming war, profits you know

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 23:05 | 6232038 gdiamond22
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As I looked around the 1900 period I thought it said 'American Genocide' (realized it was Armenian Genoicise) but the timing is what intrigues me - 1913 in particular. Federal Reserve Act and Income Tax - can easily make the argument that American Genocide happened then (and now).

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 23:09 | 6232053 TiggrAndrews
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Nothing to gloat about - raw number of deaths from war today are equivalent to mid 1960's - deaths per capita are half today versus the 1960s only because the world population has doubled in the same time period.  Pre-1960 wars were wars of attrition and a poor comparison.  Wars are won today based on who has the most expensive weaponry and debt capacity; and the reduced number of deaths per capita certainly do not benefit the loser or host nation. 

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 23:16 | 6232086 CuriousPasserby
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I'm thankful I have toilet paper, and am going to stock up before the US turns into Veneuela.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 07:12 | 6232699 svayambhu108
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Wory should not my Padawan, you when eat not, shit not!

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 08:12 | 6232829 samcontrol
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Wait in line , Argentina has not finished converting.

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 23:26 | 6232117 BI2
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Unless we want another WORLD WAR we better understand the TRUTH about the CONFLICT with RUSSIA >>>> https://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/2015/03/17/the-truth-about-the-...

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 23:29 | 6232126 TeethVillage88s
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So the Author of this Article is a Neo-CON, Neo-Liberal, PNAC Member??

Thanks for the Evidence that they still exist.

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 23:31 | 6232129 Dr. Bonzo
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Nothing about observable listed wars in this cute graphic tells me its accurate in the slightest. It seems to have a heavy Eurocentric bias. What conflicts do the hundreds of unmarked dots allegedly mark? I don't see even a single listing of a single event in South America for the invasion of conquistadors. Historians and anthropologists placing genocide figures from the low millions to the double digit millions. Same for major Asian campaigns. Not listed. You literally have your trend line dipping at 1900 right smack in the middle of the Boer War. Laughable.

So… add all the unlisted historical slaughters and your roughly horizontally sloping line of the last 600+ years suddenly gets dramatically skewed doesn’t it? What was your theory again?

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 04:06 | 6232566 El Vaquero
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The deaths caused by European diseases brought to the Indians by the conquistadors positively dwarfs the deaths caused by war against the Indians. 

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 23:31 | 6232134 teslaberry
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i find over the years people like steven pinker and other bullshit academics are the ones most predictably spending their time to generate meaningless STUPID MISLEADING graphics to dumb down the reality of the discussion of history to some series of modern powerpoints for a canned audience lesson.

 

it is rare that any of these 'generalist' graphs mean anything because graphs and charts only have meaning when the subject they deal with is as narrow and specific as the medium -----an x-y axis----being used to discuss it.

 

perhaps the greatest graph of all time or one of them is the napolianic russian army invasion. why is it so great? it's specific. and depicts a tangible thing. http://adept-plm.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/napoleon.gif

 

 

what you are seeing above is a graph trying to lump a bunch of 'wars' together as a lame as demonstration of what?

most war is an expansive set of political, trade, and economic decisions, as well as advanced SPYING and networking to bring down empires or smaller groups through bribery and treason.

 

most policy competition through ' war'  is achieved through small targeted killings, and faking political power and popularity. 

 

'war' as a concept cannot be illustrated as a complete wholistic aspect of human competitiong and destructiveness through mere bubbles on a chart.

 

any attempt to do so renders the subject totally inadequately addressed and basically goes beyond dumbing it down to rendering the discussion meaninglessly stupid.

 

and most 'deaths' from war don't result directly from explicitly recorded killing but from the actual toll on civlian and refugee populations and commodity and medicine shortages induced by war.

 

THIS IS STUIPD AND FUCK THIS GRAPH.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 03:34 | 6232553 basho
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THIS IS STUIPD

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 06:57 | 6232671 Bogdog
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If they include the Armenian genocide, then why not Stalin's genocide and Moa's "Great Leap Forward"?  between the 2 of them they would skew the chart by about 40 or 50 million people. This chart is rediculous.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 08:29 | 6232873 TuPhat
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I take it you didn't get anything from the graph.  What were you expecting to learn?  Some great incite into the future?  Remember past performance does not mean future performance will be the same.  Expect moar war is what it means but it is interesting.

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 23:41 | 6232163 Blopper
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George Soros probably favors a WW3.

He did profited tremendously from WW2 when he was chosen as Rothschild's apprentice.

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 23:46 | 6232170 Moccasin
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A meaningless graph, two big blobs of recent world wars and chicken pox for the rest. Follow the money, btfd.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 03:33 | 6232549 basho
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math was never your forte was it? lmao

Sat, 06/27/2015 - 18:23 | 6242548 teslaberry
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i was a math major personally. in fact, that's why it's so easy for me to see how peopel are brainwashed by , lies, damned lies, and statistics.

 

people see numbers and automatically accept what they are told because they have zero confidence in understanding what numbers are supposed to mean.

 

in  a state of confusion, people are self hypnotized into accepting whatever premise they are being told to accept.

 

such as---hi i'm smart steven pinker and i have an x-y graph of bubbles with lots of numbers so what i'm saying about wars must be true.

 

this is not just stupid, it's deliberate brainwashing to get across a message. the same pseudo intellectual propoganda of thomas pickety and paul krugman.

it's war of cultural and information warfare.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 00:04 | 6232202 One And Only
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George Soros is a puppet drone of the CIA.

He invests 100% in line with US foreign policy 100% of the time and is always right there where the US creates chaos 100% of the time. In fact Soros front runs war created by the US; fiscally or militarily.

He is a puppet stooge with wrinkly ball sacks under his eyes. He is no genius. His past as an individual who rounded up Jews for the Nazi's is seconded only to his ability to create chaos and death around the world on the behalf of the US most recently in the Ukraine.

George Soros literally does evil shit and he has done so since he was a child. If he says WW3 believe it because he actually wants it and will try to make it happen.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 03:31 | 6232548 basho
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well said.

a scumbag if there ever was one.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 00:10 | 6232231 GRDguy
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Notice what happened after 1600, when the British East India Company became the first corporation.  Barclays was formed in 1690.  The Great Red Dragon was awakened once again. From small beginnings . . . 

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 01:12 | 6232369 onmail
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"international institutions like the UN have radically transformed the way global politics operates."

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UN has become such a joke nowadays, a puppet, a puppy & a parrot of America.

Pirate captain America &  its pirate allies do not think of going to UN for making military decisions to strike other nations, the very purpose for which UN was created (to prevent wars) . Instead they attack, topple govts, send private armies , plunder & loot them on false pretexts (Iraq, Libya etc)

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 01:32 | 6232372 reader2010
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Unlike warfare in the Middle Ages,  early modern warfare rendered knights obsolete and required a professional armed forces and very expensive firearms, which usually required bank financing for procurement. Throughout the modern era, war has been used ultimately as the only way to consume the technologies that can't be consumed otherwise. Put it another way,  perpetual war is needed for the modern societies to enrich very few selected insiders at expenses of everyone else. 

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 03:30 | 6232547 basho
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""war has been used ultimately as the only way to consume the technologies that can't be consumed otherwise."

this is a specious argument. and an excuse for blatantly insane behavior by various gubments most dramatically the ussa.

what technologies, for example, cannot be consumed otherwise??

2nd question: were these technologies developed specifically to further weapons development?

why is the DOD so deeply involved in support of research for weapons?

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 01:56 | 6232445 gun4A
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and now the real fun begins ...

according to this article, ISIS has already started to mint gold dinars

http://www.anna-news.info/node/37304

 

 

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 02:27 | 6232474 Yen Cross
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 BTFD

 </sarc>

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 03:02 | 6232500 Nexus789
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After the next war it will be a straight line...no more wars, no more civilization 

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 03:14 | 6232507 Yen Cross
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 Something doesn't feel right. The markets are roiling.

 It's too calm/ I'm covering my trades

 usd/jpy is going lower

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 03:25 | 6232536 basho
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"With Soros among the many worried about World War 3"

sorryass and rothschild are worried. see a trend here?

...using sorryass to support your arguments doesn't do much for your credibility. lol

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 03:27 | 6232543 Yen Cross
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 The charts tell me that the $usd should be strengthening. The bond yields (corporate) and Insurance yields say something different.

 If there's a shortage of collateral, who's going to cover the spread?

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 03:44 | 6232545 Yen Cross
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usd/jpy 118 next week as macro (adjusts)

 usd/jpy is going to test higher before it slams down.  Retest of the 124.30/50 area

 I'm staying up tonight.  Bitchez

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 05:42 | 6232617 Batman11
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The cold war stayed cold for four decades due to nuclear weapons.

The wealthy like to fight wars where they benefit and the poor die.

Nuclear weapons have changed the game, everyone dies.

 

 

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 05:47 | 6232621 Batman11
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We see constant wars but North Korea remains untouched.

Nuclear weapons are key.

 

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 05:43 | 6232618 CHX
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Rates are difficult to interpret when the global population has more than quintupled in the last 200 years or so. While there is some interesting info there are lots of problems with that graph IMO.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 07:36 | 6232754 fromthinair
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Tyler, the timing of your posts begs me to tell you about the evil plan. True, so much peace for so long is historically not normal unless people have been vanishing like the tank-man. What ever I have studies in history is sufficient... did not need to see the chart to confirm that

http://just-a-thought-from-thinair.blogspot.com/2015/05/the-evil-plan-ev...

 

http://just-a-thought-from-thinair.blogspot.com

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 08:03 | 6232787 Sparehead
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Without Mao Zadong's Chinese mass murder and Stalin's Russian mass murder that Global Death chart lacks credibility.

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