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Senator Slams Obamatrade: "They Won The Vote, But Lost The Trust Of The American People"
Senator Jeff Sessions will release this statement in response to Senate's vote to advance the fast-track trade bill:
Americans increasingly believe that their country isn’t serving its own citizens. They need look no further than a bipartisan vote of Congress that will transfer congressional power to the Executive Branch and, in turn, to a transnational Pacific Union and the global interests who will help write its rules.
The same routine plays out over and again. We are told a massive bill must be passed, all the business lobbyists and leaders tell how grand it will be, but that it must be rushed through before the voters spoil the plan. As with Obamacare and the Gang of Eight, the politicians meet with the consultants to craft the talking points—not based on what the bill actually does, but what they hope people will believe it does. And when ordinary Americans who never asked for the plan, who don’t want the plan, who want no part of the plan, resist, they are scorned, mocked, and heaped with condescension.
Washington broke arms and heads to get that 60th vote—not one to spare—to impose on the American people a plan which imperils their jobs, wages, and control over their own affairs. It is remarkable that so much energy has been expended on advancing the things Americans oppose, and preventing the things Americans want.
For instance: thousands of loyal Americans have been laid off and forced to train the foreign workers brought in to fill their jobs—at Disney, at Southern California Edison, across the country. Does Washington rush to their defense? No, the politicians and the lobbyists rush to move legislation that would double or triple the very program responsible for replacing them.
This ‘econometarian’ ideology holds that if a company can increase its bottom line - whether by insourcing foreign workers or outsourcing production - then it’s always a win, never a downside.
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By way of example, here is Keith Tucker's explanation of just one aspect of the idiocy.
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Oooh that will show them!
They are quivering in their loafers I am sure.
Can we just hurry up and split the country in 6 already?
I've read that book - a lot of parallels to the US today, and a devastating quote. Nice find.
Another book worth reading (will take no more than an hour): How Do You Kill 11 Million People, by Andy Andrews. Pretty alarming and also relevant.
Plenty of taxation and no real representation.
When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. (see above)
It's very simple. We are not part of the plan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJ4SSvVbhLw
Four Chan: Thanks for the reminder - great video!
And who should get the blame? The American voters. They're the ones who support these asshats. You get the government you deserve.
John Boehner is Obama's bitch.
if i could vote for those 2 killers who broke out of security max, I would, cause they make no bones about being a criminal..and they do have ability to improvise and overcome.
derp
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
Unblievable that this would get a down vote.
Last two sentences from 239 years ago sums it up well.
"The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world."
Trolls.... This country's decline is real and this troll is responsible.
The fact that "lawmaking", the constant production of laws, is an industry is accepted by all, yet no one questions why we need more of them, or whether the existing ones are any good, or if we don't need "laws" at all (there's god (cosmic) law for that).
Apathy borne out of a false sense of security, derived from the stern belief in the infallibility of the stability of a pretentious facade... lethal stuff - it gets everyone killed.
Bastiat questioned this, and provided us with solid answers.
https://mises.org/library/law
When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in a society, over the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.
-Frederic Bastiat, 1848
Laws exist to protect the lawmakers from the law-abiding.
-Me, after I woke up from the Matrix
U.S. Senate Majority Whip John Cornyn, R-Texas, is the chief vote-counter for Republicans and a key proponent of the legislation. Both he and fellow Texas Sen. Ted Cruz backed the authorization.
Traitors? Maybe. Fascists? Definitely.
ironically they were both heard saying "we the people? fuck we the people!"
The masses have a song for the wealthy.....
https://youtu.be/8f7wj_RcqYk
We be laughing now, but we be CON LOS TERRORISTAS! :D
Yeah I love Texans always going on about how great Texas is. Ditto South Carolina. Both states have among the worst senate fascists.
The morons are easily distracted with football or NASCAR just like vile Libs are easily distracted with EBT/rap and other shit.
Cornyn? Yep, traitor and should be prosecuted.
Cruz? Not really a big fan until he destroys the FED and IRS but I cant stand to see lies put out as fact by progressive assclowns.
Cruz figured the TPP crime out after awhile.
http://www.conservativehq.com/article/20510-ted-cruz-obamatrade-enmeshed...
"TED CRUZ: OBAMATRADE ENMESHED IN CORRUPT, BACKROOM DEALINGS"Grimaldus
Very uncomfortable outside of the matrix. Everyone i know gives me the 'the pendulum swings' crap' 'Too busy to worry about that'
sad!
I dont see it swinging, just tracking one way.
That should be required reading in skool. Instead we get false-history "APUSH" textbooks. A hi skool gradumacate in this country never hears of Bastiat. I didn't either, until the end of kollege. That's a long time to go without reading such wisdom. Now imagine all the others.
Senator Jess Sessions.
Republican, Alabama.
Jeff Sessions. One good Senator and the rest are total shit though maybe Rand Paul and one are two others can be decent at times.
How many are decent in the House? 20? 30 at the max.
Or is he just window dressing for the Republicans? Pay attention to the one Republican senator who pisses on TPP. Don't even notice please the every-other-one who voted for it.
Window Dressing for the entire Senate.
Party Afilliation is meaningless. The vote in the Senate, if nothing else that has happened previously, just serves to CONFIRM THAT FACT.
Sessions, like Paul, is just "controlled opposition".
Sessions is elected by the people of Alabama. We'll elect ours - you elect yours. There's a reason that the only State that had both Senators oppose this measure is is ours - it's because of the character and nature of the people that live here.
Tis unwise to place your faith in Government.
So you reveal that you support the State?
You vote?
Pray tell...What for? More Financial Repression?
Your elected Senators are human, flawed, subject to being bribed, and just as corruptable as the rest.
Geographical location does not make humans any more honorable or prone to corruption.
That is very shallow. I'd expect better than that from you.
Perhaps I expected too much?
Listen the fuck up Tom. I place my faith in God - not government. I do my best to make sure government answers to me and the Constitution.
I vote when the issues are worthwhile and a candidate exists that I support.
As a citizen and a father I have the responsibility to do everything I can to make sure that government remains limited and respects the Constitution. The people of my State are doing a pretty damn good job of sending men to Washington that actually do the right thing, respect the Constitution and traditional American values.
Perhaps people in other States could do the same. If so, we might have a different country.
Perhaps I expected too much?
Yes you have expected too much.
Your vote for limited Government only serves to validate the corrupted system.
What I find humorous reading these pages is that people actually support State Secession.
But they cannot loosen their own shackles enough to understand that a Sovereign can secede by OPTING OUT.
They have a COLLECTIVIST MENTALITY and not an individualist mentality. That is the REASON that they desire State Secession over that of INDIVIDUAL SECESSION.
As for your responsibility to do everything that you can to make sure that Government remains limited...yada...yada...yada...
You place far too much hope in the collective. If you are hoping that others will have the wisdom to choose "DECENT MEN" when it is quite EVIDENTIAL that they have OVERWHELMINGLY FAILED in that regard then you have set yourself up for a bitter disappointment... as...IT IS EVIDENTIAL THAT IT IS NOT THE CASE..
You are living in some sort of FANTASYLAND..some sort of DREAMLAND...dealing with your own cognitive dissonance...BECAUSE IT DOES NOT FIT REALITY AND DOES NOT WORK.
I cannot fault you for faith in God Almighty. My faith resides there as the World is EVIL and CORRUPT.
But to expect Good Fruit from a vine which produces Misery and Thorns is not really a good wager, is it?
Like produces Like so the Good Book tells me.
Love you brother, and the Truth is harsh, and I am trying my damndest to WAKE YOU UP.
If it has to be rude then it has to be a Rude Awakening.
Opt out of the World as there is no hope in it whatsoever.
+1 Texans talk a lot of shit but Cornyn and Cruz are frauds like the rest. Cruz wife works for goldman and they pay his healthcare.
South Carolina also has total shit like Graham and Indian Nikki Haley. All kabuki and lies.
"Don't even notice please the every-other-one who voted for it."
That's the way Party Pussies roll...
Jeff Sessions is just another Fascist creep like all the rest. If he had any balls, and truly wanted to stop this thing, all he had to do was go read the bill, then hold a press conference to tell us what it says.
When they came to arrest him, ask what law says an elected official sworn to uphold the Constitution, can be prosecuted for telling his constituents the truth? That would be a trial I would love to see. Prosecuting a Senator for protecting us from traitors could be the trial of the century.
But not one single member of Congress has the gumption to do this. Not one. Not even Bernie Sanders. They got just enough votes, which means they let as many as possible vote the other way to help protect them from the voters in their districts - cover for the next elecion.
I agree with everything in Jeff Sessions letter. Too bad he doesn't.
Sessions has opposed this bill from the beginning. he has been the single most effective opponent of amnesty and illegal immigration.
And what did YOUR Senator do? You make some mighty big statements for a man that could easily defy the law and demand to be arrested like you suggest that Sessions do.
If you had any balls, you'd step up and show us how it's done.
That is sad that you place your faith and confidence into a system that has already demonstrated FAILURE.
The Constitution did not fail but the humans corrupted the noble goals penned into the document.
Humans, especially elected "leaders" are prone to corruption and abuse of power.
You'd be better served by placing that Faith and Confidence in yourself, STATEIST
Me - A statist? lol. The "system" didn't fail - people have. At least most of them.
Some of us have fought "the system" for over a hundred years and are still opposing it today. Most others have given up and are accepting the fate dished out by others on them with nary a complaint.
My faith is in God. My confidence is in myself, my abilities and those like minded individuals around me.
Well, excuse me, but first, I am not a sitting Senator sworn under oath to uphold the Constitution.
Second, do you consider the actions of the Congress to be an act of treason in this regard? I do. From what I have read, if accurate, there are several provisions that go against our Constitution in this bill.
Third, I hear politicians bloviate all the time about what they believe in, but when push comes to shove, they cave to the leadership and do as they are told. My opinion is that Sessions is playing to the home crowd. He is a former Federal Prosecutor, Federal Judge, and Atty. General of Alabama. In other words, a lifelong Federal employee.
Don't try pissing on my leg and telling me it's raining.
How about addressing the subject of my post - that if ANY Congress Critter truly wanted to see this thing killed, they would expose it to the public and face the consequences of an illegal prosecution. That is what they are sworn to do, and if they did it, I don't believe that any prosecution would stand and no jury would convict. Did they swear their loyalty to Obama? Corporations? Politcal Party? Or, was it to uphold the Constitution?
He swore an oath to uphold the Constitution - JUST LIKE YOU DID.
He voted against the bill because he felt it violated the Constitution.
What part of his oath did he violate?
He kept the contents SECRET. He did not expose the contents to his constituency.
They may threaten to prosecute him for doing that.
If they followed through and prosecuted a sitting Senator the scandal would get too much exposure and would be Political Suicide for his peers.
We have Secret Courts and Tribunals.
Secret Prosecutions
Torture
Suspension of Habeas Corpus
...and that is just a start.
We have a DICTATOR ruling by Executive Order.
It happened incrementally, just like it did in the Third Reich.
Cognitive Dissonance posted an excerpt today.
You need to read it and learn what you are really supporting
"What happened here was the gradual habituation of the people, little by little, to being governed by surprise; to receiving decisions deliberated in secret; to believing that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand, or so dangerous that, even if the people could not understand it, it could not be released because of national security. And their sense of identification with Hitler, their trust in him, made it easier to widen this gap and reassured those who would otherwise have worried about it.
"This separation of government from people, this widening of the gap, took place so gradually and so insensibly, each step disguised (perhaps not even intentionally) as a temporary emergency measure or associated with true patriotic allegiance or with real social purposes. And all the crises and reforms (real reforms, too) so occupied the people that they did not see the slow motion underneath, of the whole process of government growing remoter and remoter.
http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/511928.html.
The United States is a shell of what it was. There is NO HOPE.
Welcome to the Fourth Reich. Sieg heil.
And the people in Germany who, once the war had begun, still thought of complaining, protesting, resisting, were betting on Germany’s losing the war. It was a long bet. Not many made it."
I'm most certainly sure Senator Sessions is aware of "The Privilege Clause"
http://www.heritage.org/constitution/articles/1/essays/26/privilege-from...
and he most certainly could, if he had the stones, step up to a podium in chambers and start reading and not stop until he had performed his legislative obligations to his constituents in full.
All he needed do is read it in the Senate and claim protection under the Constitution, Article One, Article 6, "They shall in all cases , except treason, Felony and Breach of Peace, be privileged from Arrest .. for any speech or debate in either House."
It's all theater, wherein the sheeple are deceived. Not just Sessions, but any of the other opponents could have acted and revealed.
I feel that way too, but would like to note that there WERE more than 1 or 2 NAY votes.
P.S. I noticed that Big Propaganda wasn't airing interviews with our Senators and Congressmen about TPP. Instead, Big Propaganda was diverting everyone's attention toward Kaitlyn Jenner, the Church shooting, Confederate Flag waving, and Donald Trump's hair. Big Propaganda does this EVERY TIME!
Lets break it down in simple terms hedgeless
The majority of people are genetically modified dumbed down Boiling frogs
I know Congress has used "fast track" before, but I don't understand how it's even constitutional. If a 2/3rds majority is required for non fast track agreements, you can't just pass a law waiving that requirement. It can only be done by an ammendment. I must be missing something.
Didn't this Team Red cunt support EVERY shit trade deal that Cheney/Bush rammed through Congress???
Do not know. Do you have his voting record handy?
Red Team/Blue Team bullshit is MEANINGLESS.
Controlled opposition.
Do you know what you call a Black Democrat President?
No. Not that.
You call him a Republican as there is NO DIFFERENCE. (The double entendre IS intended.)
No shit Sherlock... FYI if someone around here refers to a representative as Team Red or Blue, it's meant as a slur against the faux 2 party system. Didn't think I'd have to spell it out for anyone...
"Didn't this Team Red cunt support EVERY shit trade deal that Cheney/Bush rammed through Congress???"
You tell me - then you tell me what YOUR State has sent to Washington.
I could give a fuck who my state sent to Congress because it wasn't the guy I voted for... And that would be because I refuse to vote Team Red/Blue.
Funny. We have a man who went to Washington, read the bill, and opposed it. And it's trendy and cool to spit in his face and call him a cunt while offering nothing better as an alternative.
And we wonder why our nation is fucked?
I'll gladly call all of the so-called "representatives" who sold out their constituients on any of the Bush/Clinton/Obama trade deals a cunt right to their face if it will make you feel better :-)
My feelings have nothing to do with it.
Your offer to call people cunts will effect as much change as pulling down the Confederate flag - and is about at the same level of mentality.
The simple fact remains, we have a Senator who has stood tall and done the right thing, and your response is to call him a cunt with nothing better in the way of an alternative.
Tough talk on the internet is cheap. Being involved in your own fate requires a little more effort. Sad to see that you have surrendered yours to others.
Stood tall my fucking ass! If not for the EPIC irresponsibility of the 200-2006 GOP Congressional Majority, we likely never even have an Obama presidency. Now you think this piece of shit deserves credit for holding up the HELP sign after he druckenly drove our car into a ditch???
Jesus Fucking Christ, we're fucked. Even more so because partisan twits like you don't understand YOU'RE the reason were fucked!
So you don't want to play in the game. but you do want to stand on the sidelines and yell "cunt!" and "piece of shit!" at the players?
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Geographical location and residence does not denote ownership.
The NFL Football Team is not MY team. Most players are from different areas of the Nation State and are indentured servants as a result of "the Draft" to the owners of those Teams.
Likewise the State does not belong to me. It is NOT MY STATE.
I have no ownership whatsoever but the State is doing their damnedest to own me. I resent that, STATEIST.
No, it is not "YOUR" State - but you choose to live there - voluntarily. Either accept it or move. Nobody's forcing you to stay.
Me thinks I won't be moving. Nor will I let a dickless faggot like yourself insinuate that I'm responsible for the votes of some cocksucker I had no part in electing.
"Me thinks I won't be moving. "
Then shut the fuck up and deal with your chosen home.
Dickless faggot, huh? lol. Internet tough guy for sure. Especially like the bold letters. That makes it a lot more intimidating - especially combined with the scary avatar.
Then shut the fuck up and deal with your chosen home.
Then do the same bitch. Because you're trapped in the USSA just like the rest of us... Fucking tool...
And the only thing I'll guarantee I'm mentally tougher than is a Team Red/Blue sycophant like your self.
Deuces...
Do you pay taxes? Yes or no.
A State is not a living being. A rabbit, ant, lion, whale, bacteria, and human are living beings. A State does nothing. The politically-active people within the State do everything. Wherever you live, there are going to be politically-active people, and they are going to be doing something. You can't get away from them. You have to stand up to them and become politically active yourself, to protect your interests. And I think you already understand that, because just posting on this board is political activity, although it may not be ENOUGH political activity to protect your interests against those in your neighborhood, City, County, State, etc., who might, through their own political activity, work to take things away from you.
That would be true if the courts weren't all bought and paid for. SCOTUS is a complete embarrassment at this point.
You are missing that most of the Congress and Senate don't give a shit about the constitution. From what I have been able to learn it seams that the National Emergency that started in 1933 is re-declared every year. That suspends the Constitution giving these clowns unchecked powers everything that they do that appears to be on the up and up is merely done to keep the appearance of the Constitution still being followed... 1933 is when you had a major increase in gov't agencies that are not authorized by the Constitution, the FDA and the making illegal of certain drugs is a good example for people. A Constitutional amendment was needed to ban alcohol (pre 1933). No amendment to ban Pot, Cocaine etc (post 1933). Weird shit I know but shit none the less.
Here is the prediction from GITS - split 3 ways.
Masamune Shirow also made some other predictions in this fiction: (1) America jumpstarts World War III before 2020 by nuclear bombing several countries (2) After 2015, the former U.S. is partitioned into 3 separate countries (3) The American Empire, what's left it, has become an openly "Imperialist government" and attempts to reconquer states in the fractured, former U.S. and makes incursions into South America, "Due to a battered economy and weak political position."
"Can we just hurry up and split the country in 6 already?"
I'd rather split it up into 320,000,000 independent states each with the authority to trade with and engage in voluntary relationships privately with any other.
"Yessss, The transformation is complete....Muhaha..muhahahahahaha......muuuhahahahahahahahaha."
You can down vote if you want and I despised the half breed president from the get go but the way I see it Obama is really not to blame... It would have happened regardless who was president. Everything to this point would be the same (except for the gay sex in the Oral Office with Reggie)
Anyone who thinks that there is a dimes worth of difference between the two parties at this point is brain dead and if you are still clinging to some far fetched hope that some new guy or gal will lead this country to the promised land is beyond help.
The best you can do is to start making plans to defend your home turf against the slow moving fog of fascism and make your stand or move the fuck out of this god forsaken shit stain on the globe for some other shit stain on a map.
Hope you starting making ,and working,your plans several years ago, otherwise
you're fucked ,along with the country.
You know, you are right! I have been a registered Republican for 58 years. Yesterday, I called my Congressman and Senator's offices, and told them exactly that. They can all go f@#k themselves. A little old to find a better shit stain, but I will reinforce the fence around mine.
shoot-they got away with it with Obamacare. Once the rest of the business world saw wht the insurance companies and banks have gotten away with, why what is to stop them from helping themselves? A few measly bought congresscritters?!!
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-30/how-little-it-cost-bribe-senate...
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Lost our trust? Just now? hahahahahaha!!!! America's prime enemy is DOMESTIC and its located inside the beltway. The Fed Govt is the enemy of the Constitution and therefore The People.
Matt Brackens concept in Enemies Foreign and Domestic was right on where rogue government uses false flags, racial division and unconstitutional law to manipulate and subjugate the People.
Only difference I can see are the americans in his books were willing to fight.
This is simple; everybody who voted for this TPP bill is a traitor.
I was trying to figure out how to argue your statement but I cannot. Just another smack in the face of people.
They plan the votes ahead of time so that no one has to vote for unpopular bills every time. Even bad senators get to be the good guy once in a while. It's all a show, I don't trust any of them.
oh I trust all of them, 100%, TO BETRAY THE CONSTITUTION AND FUCK US !
Yeah, when obummer speaks I always apply the Willie Wonka adage of "Strike that and reverse it".
Only very foolish people believe that there is any way to hold government in check.
A constitution is essentially a promise from the people who wrote it. That's it - a promise from psychopaths.
I agree but I think Sessions is always pretty good. The House may have about 20 that are the same way.
A totally corrupt govt.
Exactly.
Red Team / Blue Team. They are the Globetrotters and the Generals. They practice together secretly to perfect their plays. They share the ticket sales. They eat the same catered food. And they put on exciting and entertaining shows as real as pro-wrestling, where winners are winners, and losers are winners too.
Globetrotters and Generals.
Hang em High!!!
I agree. Both of our Senators from Alabama voted against it. Only five Republicans voted against it, and our State's Senators were two of the five. The people of Alabama have stood virtually alone for a long time now. It get's old.
Anyone who just now lost their confidence in the government is a traitor.
Emphatically agree.
Now what?
And the sheep keep talking about an outdated and nearly forgotten flag. Ignorant and careless voters yield ignorant and careless political leaders. Until people unplug themselves from the matrix, the show will go on and Americans will keep bending over.
Americans - yet more proof that humans are the dumbest species on the planet
Einstein said the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. The stupid fukn sheeple have been electin and reelecting career politician turds over and over..... duh.... the country is in massive debt and has never been more blatantly divided along racial, political, social, economic and religious lines thanks to the fudgepacker regime. The country needs another Bush or Cunt-on as much as it needs another term with the fudgepacker. How about electing a non career politician turd to the presidency for a change..... some one who is a U.S. citizen and someone who cares about the country and has actually accomplished something in the private sector as a hard working tax paying U.S. born citizen and would actually look out for hard working tax paying U.S. citizens........ .
Yep, The Patriot Act, TARP, TPP all for own ignorant good. I am going to be sick now.
Don't forget about the NDAA, the one that lets them lock us up and throw away the key. Land of the Free indeed.
Lock us up on the slightest suspicion (or none at all) in a foreign country with no family or attorney contact. Yukyukyuk. The jokes on us.
Please, allow me to connect the dots for you regarding that "outdated and nearly forgotten flag" and Senator Sessions' remarks.
1) Yes the Confederate flag is being brought up to further instigate racial strife as a means of deflecting attention from the real issues in America, namely our totalitarian government pushing through legislation such as TPP. Why were people ambivalent about the Confederate flag a month ago, but now every media venue features the evils of the Confederate flag and those disgusting racist white people? Very suspicious...
2) The Confederate flag is very relevant to a segment of the population who wishes to resist our totalitarian government. When you consider the Southern states from the perspective of being oppressed by a federal government, when you are educated regarding the horrors and deprivation which people of the South were subjected to at the hands of our totalitarian federal government during the Civil War, you might see this flag in the context of representing a people who are trying to resist subjugation, similar to the Gadsden flag.
Do you know about the siege of Vicksburg, Mississippi during the Civil War? The city was sieged and ruthlessly starved by the North until they finally submitted to federal rule. Some accounts say it was 40 years before Vicksburg would celebrate the 4th of July because they remembered what their federal overlords had done to them; other accounts say it was 80 years. The point is, in the South we remember and we hold a grudge, and we know that subjugation could happen again. That is why we hold on to the Confederate flag, not because we are pathological racists. I mean, sure some people here are pathological racists just as they are in any other region of the US. But I've known big cities up North that were far more racially segregated than my home in the South. The Tennessee I live in is not my grandparents' Tennessee; it has changed for the better.
The bottom line is, yes the Confederate flag debate is a sideshow, but there is a lot more to it than racism -- that is what the talking heads want you to look at. Don't pay attention to your encroaching enslavement.
Robt E Lee was the closest to defeating the powers that now today swarm upon us all -such that even today his name brings forth fear and loathing in DC and NY
The flag nonsense is all about the residual fear of the Yankee business and banking interests and their DC lackeys for this greatest of cheiftains and captains.
I grew up in south georgia and live in atlanta. I heard all these stories and then some growing up
In the end it's still just a flag. People that put too much care in old relics and symbols are painfully limited IMHO. I feel the same way about people that get choked up looking at an American flag or a crucifixion cross
Perhaps. I personally see the taking away of old relics and symbols as a first step of subjugation. And on that note, I totally see taking away crucifixion crosses as a next step somewhere down the road; doing so will not stop me from holding Christian beliefs, however it will be an overt sign that stronger persecution is coming soon.
All of this is just a "canary in the coal mine" indicator of the climate in America, if you are so inclined to examine things and hedge accordingly.
I agree with you. I do think there are people vested in controlling the information of the past to control the future. I would stand along side Christians against the "thought police" should that day arise in my lifetime. And, like you, I have begun to see media, corporations, and government attempting to silence or shame independent thinkers and dissenters (especially in alternative media.)
The purpose of this bill is to let US companies move plants to other cheap labor countris, then import the same products they used to make in the US back to the US market without fear of tariffs or bans or any other issues. Of course business leaders (and political donors) support this.
The interesting thing from the Democrats side is that it also lets foreign regulators overturn labor and environmental laws inside the United States!
And the klepto-corporate union will expect gov to enforce the rules to keep the sheep docile in their pens. It wouldn't surprise me if in return the corps that ram-rod this thing refuse to accept cash to buy their monopolised junk. TTPP approved electronic credits only.
BFD. The corporations use government the same way the government uses the constitution - to get whatever it wants.
"The purpose of this bill is to let US companies move plants to other cheap labor countris"
While one of the objectives, imho its not even in the top 3. To wit - reason #1:
"The real danger lies in the way that this agreement subverts the sovereignty of nations. The TPP would create a system of shadowy trade tribunals which would allow companies to to override and nullify laws in any member country.http://www.citizen.org/tppinvestment
These tribunals are extrajudicial. Their authority is outside above national justice systems. The arbitrators are unelected, and completely unaccountable to the people.
The laws which will be subject to this new agreement include (but are not limited to) intellectual property rights, food and product safety, environmental standards, and just about any regulation that may affect the way companies do business.
Under the TPP, if a country passes a law to protect its citizens or reduce pollution in a particular sector, a multinational corporation which is affected by that law can take that country to a tribunal. The ruling will be legally binding. It doesn't matter what people voted for."
The TPP - What You're Not Being ToldI'm no lawyer, but having read a book or two - the fast track authority seems unconstitutional on its face - right?
Any lawyers here who might comment?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rep-alan-grayson/the-fast-track-trade-bill...
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/05/fast-track-violates-the-u-s-const...
I mean Alan Grayson is to the left of anyone here - but the guy is brilliant. Worked as a janitor while going to harvard law. Can kill people with his mind!
But - seems to be *clearly* unconstitutional.
An agreement with two or more nations is a Treaty, plain and simple. This is a treaty and needs a 2/3rds vote. Fast Track is illegal and yet not a whisper from the justice department or congress. A carrington event can't happen fast enough.
Herre comes that poor dead horse, the constitution.
Let's kick it again!
The Just-Us department.... LOL.
IMO, it would be a treaty in the general sense, but specific to US law, it would not be a treaty, i.e. Congress should, theoretically be able to modify it at will and unilaterally. But until their campaign donors go away, that's not going to happen without some benefit to US oligarchs.
Thank you Sir, may I have another?
You most certainly may and absolutley will.....
The People? Those are not People, they're fucking Sheep, ripe for shearing!
Traitor, serving self interest over the welfare of your country, yeah that sounds like the right word and description, it takes awareness, unfortunately you need major disruptive event that can't be brushed under the rug.
Let's listen to what the Obama apologists have to say now. All I hear is a chorus of crickets.
Listen up: "the people" are the vote.
NAFTA had already set in place what that cartoon is alluding to. I fought against NAFTA, but no longer waste my time when the oligarchs are goiing to run us into the ground no matter if there are laws (which are meant to contain the peons) or not.
The perpetual motion machine was set in play a LONG time ago. To borrow from Jethro Tull, the train never did have a handle. BIG fires have to burn themselves out...
8% approval rating.
Enough said.
Oh yea! That really seems to bother them.LOL. Thy could care less.
They're raping us and our progeny and were not even getting mildly upset.
Don't forget the 92% re-election rate for incumbents, otherwise you're just blaming the politicians and letting the voter off the hook. Wake up, America.
But, but, but! It's not MY congresscritter! It's everybody elses.
/sarc
Aww, fuck that. Udall claims that Ukraine is some massive national security issue (it is, but only becuase we're making damned sure that it is one) and Heinrich was for bombing Syria. If either of them thinks that they have my support, they have another thing coming. My representative kind of does nothing in DC, but she will go to bat for people here who are getting screwed by the system.
California should be divided into three separate States. Northern, mid, southern.
Let's get back to a popular vote instead of a electoral vote. Absolutely no lobbyists in DC. Term limits for all politicians, say no more than eight years.
You're delousonal.I probably know more about the US constitution than 99% of Americans.
Its working EXACTLY as designed.It was written by oligarchs ,for oligarchs, whatever your fantasies
about it are.
It cannot be reformed from within.Your proposed tweaks are meaningless.
Someone who fucking gets it!
Now then, everyone, back to thinking that you can fix what is, in essence, a NOT-broken system (it's just that it's slowly turning off the pre-wired spigots- sorry your weren't born with a silver-spoon in your mouth, pitty that, signed, "GOD.").
Political doublespeak at its finest.
Sold as constraining the Govt. when all it constrained was the serfs.
i had to waste a couple of months in DC, and spent my time in the Congressional library,
and Law library.There was much more than just the Federalist papers still there.
Meet the new boss, same as.....
ANY hierarchy creates a power structure. And, well, power corrupts... Yet, we fall for it time and time again (with so-called "intelligent" folks thinking that we can somehow overcome this "shortcoming" LOL!) I suppose if we're dumb enough to believe that we can have perpetual growth on a finite planet then we're pretty much dumb enough to hold out for phantom "saviors" (be they "tech" or some "religious" icon).
I will add that separating the legislative & executive branch of a Parliamentary system is one of the most powerful things that has divorced the federal government from ‘the people’.
Just in the last 20 years if we had a Parlimentary system:
Clinton out in 1994
Bush out in 2006
Obama out in 2010
Notice in the comic the boy is wearing the symbol of The Flash.
Fan of Flashboys was he?
Meanwhile (and it is long overdue) ISIS is on the path to minting it's gold coinage...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/islamic-state/11694838/Islamic...
Do you think I can exchange my worthless fiat for some?
Good,
Now us hoarders of gold can officially be labeled terrorists.
It's a reasonable speculation...
I made this call a LONG time ago. Banks that hold any phys will swap it for protection, and when the System cranks up a new game these criminals will still be afforded their high places; the rest of us will be labeled terrorists (we're not conforming; and, as others around us failed to hold any phys they'll get some crumbs -new fiat- for ratting us out). The "plan" is pretty easy to figure out... bumpy road ahead, fasten your seatbelts and keep in mind that it's always about survival!
The secrecy surrounding this trade vote and not being told what is actually being voted on is a new low for Amerika.
This is not the same country I grew up in. There used to be something called integrity by at least some of our elected "leaders".
Now I see nothing but corruption and votes for sale to the highest bidder.
I have nothing but contempt for any one and everyone in power in this country.
Corrupt, sell out traitors. Every last one of them.
And the worst part is, they don't ever care that we know.
It's worse than treason.
I have noticed a trend over the years that indicates they do the exact opposite of what they say they will do. Just before Bill Clinton's hair turned white, he said the US need to stop all forms of foreign aid until the budget was under control. He went on to sign the largest aid package to Russia ever made. Bush said we are not in the business of nation-building, and we all know how that went. BO promised the most transparent administration ever. Secret deals, secret this, secret that. We even went from "we have to pass it to see whats in it" to "fuck off, you can't know whats in it". The only thing they don't have is secret sauce, and I am willing to bet we just haven't heard about it yet.
Be ye wary of the candidate basing their platform on mending ties with Russia.
Because if they play along they are given a guaranteed shot at re-election and a lot of money by TPTB.
Is the situation really disintegrating to the point where honest, law abiding citizens are truly considering an armed response?
Terminal, the whole damn world, terminal.
The world's path was set as terminal when we set forth to multiply. Perpetual growth on a finite planet isn't just a bad idea, it's a violation of physics!
Done the same with the Patriot Act. No big complaints from 'citizens' there so they just picked up the ball and ran with it.
Soon most bills and treaties will be secret.
Every time they get away with something they go to something even worse. Just like the 2 year old toddler.
And when you finally try to do something.... watch out for the biggest tantrum you ever saw.
Will be the same with government.
Americans increasingly believe that their country isn’t serving its own citizens.
Yes Jeff, and politicians like you only tell partial truths for their own personal gain, that is the truth.
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This author assumes that the American public is paying attention...they aren't. If you were to ask 100 people what they thought about TPP, 95 of them would say: TP what now?
The majority of American people are now economic slaves to government policies, and thus as slaves, have no time to stop and look at the news. In addition, the gold-plated failing educational system actually is encouraging that they NOT LOOK AT ANY NEWS. Orwell was right. 1984 is here.
But, really, WTF does it matter? Holler out, which does nothing but tag you for a future drone operation? Us and all these other folks aren't in The CLUB.
I hope my State has secession plans.
If you're in Texas...We love a good fight with terrible odds. Maybe we get cleaned out, maybe not.
"Hope?"
There it is again, a perfect example of WAITING for OTHERS to do something. Change your own life, that's where it starts: many around me thought I was nuts for my shift, even an (now ex) wife, but no longer).
The American People have enjoyed a very good standard of living, a good part of it at the expense of the ROW. Now the shit's hitting the fan and a ( persian ) rug is being pulled from under their feet.
The fall from grace is going to be particularly painful but even the most tender soul who is non American couldn't give a flying fuck.
hello senator--they don't give a damn about the american people.
that's been pretty obvious for a long time now.
where the hell have you been?
Senator!, Senator! if I may say something Senator!
Fuck you!
"Lost the Trust of the American People. . ." for many that happened a long time ago. Fortunately for you and most of your colleagues it doesn't matter.
I am damned tired of holding my nose every time I vote. I say, stop them right at the Primary.
I spend my time being productive... Voting only legitimizes the System (which is predicated on an impossible premise).
Today, We the People are made up of a multitude of factions all fighting to see how much they can rob from one another. A unified defense from a tyrannical government is the farthest thing from their small minds.
Like all the other unjust legislation,,, once the corporate scum in DC pass/ratify it and it is supposedly LAW, Amerikans move on to the next unjust law or treaty on the agenda to complain about until it too is passed, never once looking back.
Even though they know their representatives in DC are employees of the corporate banks they somehow, still accept this as a legitimate government.
Astounding!
Freedumb, freedumb, freedumb.
Since when the people's demand counts in Murika?
The power slays us as we are told we are slaying one another.
"The ruling can't be challenged in U.S courts!".
Can it be challenged by, say, 20 million armed citizens? Count me in.