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What's Really Going On At Fukushima?

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Submitted by Robert Hunziker via CounterPunch.org,

Fukushima’s still radiating, self-perpetuating, immeasurable, and limitless, like a horrible incorrigible Doctor Who monster encounter in deep space.

Fukushima will likely go down in history as the biggest cover-up of the 21st Century. Governments and corporations are not leveling with citizens about the risks and dangers; similarly, truth itself, as an ethical standard, is at risk of going to shambles as the glue that holds together the trust and belief in society’s institutions. Ultimately, this is an example of how societies fail.

Tens of thousands of Fukushima residents remain in temporary housing more than four years after the horrific disaster of March 2011. Some areas on the outskirts of Fukushima have officially reopened to former residents, but many of those former residents are reluctant to return home because of widespread distrust of government claims that it is okay and safe.

Part of this reluctance has to do with radiation’s symptoms. It is insidious because it cannot be detected by human senses. People are not biologically equipped to feel its power, or see, or hear, touch or smell it (Caldicott). Not only that, it slowly accumulates over time in a dastardly fashion that serves to hide its effects until it is too late.

Chernobyl’s Destruction Mirrors Fukushima’s Future

As an example of how media fails to deal with disaster blowback, here are some Chernobyl facts that have not received enough widespread news coverage: Over one million (1,000,000) people have already died from Chernobyl’s fallout.

Additionally, the Rechitsa Orphanage in Belarus has been caring for a very large population of deathly sick and deformed children. Children are 10 to 20 times more sensitive to radiation than adults.

Zhuravichi Children’s Home is another institution, among many, for the Chernobyl-stricken: “The home is hidden deep in the countryside and, even today, the majority of people in Belarus are not aware of the existence of such institutions” (Source: Chernobyl Children’s Project-UK).

One million (1,000,000) is a lot of dead people. But, how many more will die? Approximately seven million (7,000,000) people in the Chernobyl vicinity were hit with one of the most potent exposures to radiation in the history of the Atomic Age.

The exclusion zone around Chernobyl is known as “Death Valley.” It has been increased from 30 to 70 square kilometres. No humans will ever be able to live in the zone again. It is a permanent “dead zone.”

Additionally, over 25,000 died and 70,000 disabled because of exposure to extremely dangerous levels of radiation in order to help contain Chernobyl. Twenty percent of those deaths were suicides, as the slow agonizing “death march of radiation exposure” was too much to endure.

Fukushima- The Real Story

In late 2014, Helen Caldicott, M.D. gave a speech about Fukushima at Seattle Town Hall (9/28/14). Pirate Television recorded her speech; here’s the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qX-YU4nq-g

Dr. Helen Caldicott is co-founder of Physicians for Social Responsibility, and she is author/editor of Crisis Without End: The Medical and Ecological Consequences of the Fukushima Nuclear Catastrophe, The New Press, September 2014. For over four decades Dr. Caldicott has been the embodiment of the anti-nuclear banner, and as such, many people around the world classify her as a “national treasure”. She’s truthful and honest and knowledgeable.

Fukushima is literally a time bomb in quiescence. Another powerful quake and all hell could break loose. Also, it is not even close to being under control. Rather, it is totally out of control. According to Dr. Caldicott, “It’s still possible that Tokyo may have to be evacuated, depending upon how things go.” Imagine that!

According to Japan Times as of March 11, 2015: “There have been quite a few accidents and problems at the Fukushima plant in the past year, and we need to face the reality that they are causing anxiety and anger among people in Fukushima, as explained by Shunichi Tanaka at the Nuclear Regulation Authority. Furthermore, Mr. Tanaka said, there are numerous risks that could cause various accidents and problems.”

Even more ominously, Seiichi Mizuno, a former member of Japan’s House of Councillors (Upper House of Parliament, 1995-2001) in March 2015 said: “The biggest problem is the melt-through of reactor cores… We have groundwater contamination… The idea that the contaminated water is somehow blocked in the harbor is especially absurd. It is leaking directly into the ocean. There’s evidence of more than 40 known hotspot areas where extremely contaminated water is flowing directly into the ocean… We face huge problems with no prospect of solution.” (Source: Nuclear Hotseat #194: Fukushima 4th Anniversary – Voices from Japan, March 10, 2015, http://www.nuclearhotseat.com/2468/)

At Fukushima, each reactor required one million gallons of water per minute for cooling, but when the tsunami hit, the backup diesel generators were drowned. Units 1, 2, and 3 had meltdowns within days. There were four hydrogen explosions. Thereafter, the melting cores burrowed into the container vessels, maybe into the earth.

According to Dr. Caldicott, “One hundred tons of terribly hot radioactive lava has already gone into the earth or somewhere within the container vessels, which are all cracked and broken.” Nobody really knows for sure where the hot radioactive lava resides. The scary unanswered question: Is it the China Syndrome?

Following the meltdown, the Japanese government did not inform people of the ambient levels of radiation that blew back onto the island. Unfortunately and mistakenly, people fled away from the reactors to the highest radiation levels on the island at the time.

As the disaster happened, enormous levels of radiation hit Tokyo. The highest radiation detected in the Tokyo Metro area was in Saitama with cesium radiation levels detected at 919,000 becquerel (Bq) per square meter, a level almost twice as high as Chernobyl’s “permanent dead zone evacuation limit of 500,000 Bq” (source: Radiation Defense Project). For that reason, Dr. Caldicott strongly advises against travel to Japan and recommends avoiding Japanese food.

Even so, post the Fukushima disaster, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton signed an agreement with Japan that the U.S. would continue importing Japanese foodstuff. Therefore, Dr. Caldicott suggests people not vote for Hillary Clinton. One reckless dangerous precedent is enough for her.

According to Arnie Gundersen, an energy advisor with 39 years of nuclear power engineering experience, as reported in The Canadian on August 15, 2011: “The US government has come up with a decision at the highest levels of the State Department, as well as other departments who made a decision to downplay Fukushima. In April, the month after the powerful tsunami and earthquake crippled Japan including its nuclear power plant, Hillary Clinton signed a pact with Japan that she agreed there is no problem with Japanese food supply and we will continue to buy them. So, we are not sampling food coming in from Japan.”

However, in stark contrast to the United States, in Europe Angela Merkel, PhD physics, University of Leipzig and current chancellor of Germany is shutting down all nuclear reactors because of Fukushima.

Maybe an advanced degree in physics makes the difference in how a leader approaches the nuclear power issue. It certainly looks that way when comparing/contrasting the two pantsuit-wearing leaders, Chancellor Merkel and former secretary of state Clinton.

After the Fukushima blow up, ambient levels of radiation in Washington State went up 40,000 times above normal, but according to Dr. Caldicott, the U.S. media does not cover the “ongoing Fukushima mess.” So, who would really know?

Dr. Caldicott ended her speech on Sept. 2014 by saying: “In Fukushima, it is not over. Everyday, four hundred tons of highly radioactive water pours into the Pacific and heads towards the U.S. Because the radiation accumulates in fish, we get that too. The U.S. government is not testing the water, not testing the fish, and not testing the ambient air. Also, people in Japan are eating radiation every day.”

Furthermore, according to Dr. Caldicott: “Rainwater washes over the nuclear cores into the Pacific. There is no way they can get to those cores, men die, robots get fried. Fukushima will never be solved. Meanwhile, people are still living in highly radioactive areas.”

Fukushima will never be solved because “men die” and “robots get fried.” By the sounds of it, Fukushima is a perpetual radiation meltdown scenario that literally sets on the edge of a bottomless doomsday pit, in waiting to be nudged over.

UN All-Clear Report

A UN (UNSCEAR) report on April 2, 2014 on health impacts of the Fukushima accident concluded that any radiation-induced effects would be too small to identify. People were well protected and received “low or very low” radiation doses. UNSCEAR gave an all-clear report.

Rebuttal of the UNSCEAR report by the German affiliate of the International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War d/d July 18, 2014 takes a defiant stance in opposition to the UN report, to wit: “The Fukushima nuclear disaster is far from over. Despite the declaration of ‘cold shutdown’ by the Japanese government in December 2011, the crippled reactors have not yet achieved a stable status and even UNSCEAR admits that emissions of radioisotopes are continuing unabated. 188 TEPCO is struggling with an enormous amount of contaminated water, which continues to leak into the surrounding soil and sea. Large quantities of contaminated cooling water are accumulating at the site. Failures in the makeshift cooling systems are occurring repeatedly. The discharge of radioactive waste will most likely continue for a long time.”

Both the damaged nuclear reactors and the spent fuel ponds contain vast amounts of radioactivity and are highly vulnerable to further earthquakes, tsunamis, typhoons and human error. Catastrophic releases of radioactivity could occur at any time and eliminating this risk will take many decades… It is impossible at this point in time to come up with an exact prognosis of the effects that the Fukushima nuclear disaster will have on the population in Japan… the UNSCEAR report represents a systematic underestimation and conjures up an illusion of scientific certainty that obscures the true impact of the nuclear catastrophe on health and the environment.”

To read the full text of the rejoinder to the UN report, go to: https://japansafety.wordpress.com/tag/saitama/

Fukushima’s Radiation and the Future

Mari Yamaguchi, Associated Press (AP), June 12, 2015: “Four years after an earthquake and tsunami destroyed Japan’s Fukushima nuclear power plant, the road ahead remains riddled with unknowns… Experts have yet to pinpoint the exact location of the melted fuel inside the three reactors and study it, and still need to develop robots capable of working safely in such highly radioactive conditions. And then there’s the question of what to do with the waste… serious doubts about whether the cleanup can be completed within 40 years.”

Although the Chernobyl accident was a terrible accident, it only involved one reactor. With Fukushima, we have the minimum [of] 3 reactors that are emitting dangerous radiation. The work involved to deal with this accident will take tens of years, hundreds of years,” Prof. Hiroaki Koide (retired), Kyoto University Research Reactor Institute, April 25, 2015. “It could be that some of the fuel could actually have gone through the floor of the containment vessel as well… What I’ve just described is very, very logical for anyone who understands nuclear engineering or nuclear energy,” which dreadfully spells-out: THE CHINA SYNDROME.

According to the Smithsonian, April 30, 2015: “Birds Are in a Tailspin Four Years After Fukushima: Bird species are in sharp decline, and it is getting worse over time… Where it’s much, much hotter, it’s dead silent. You’ll see one or two birds if you’re lucky.” Developmental abnormalities of birds include cataracts, tumors, and asymmetries. Birds are spotted with strange white patches on their feathers.

Maya Moore, a former NHK news anchor, authored a book about the disaster: The Rose Garden of Fukushima (Tankobon, 2014), about the roses of Mr. Katsuhide Okada. Today, the garden has perished: “It’s just poisoned wasteland. The last time Mr. Okada actually went back there, he found baby crows that could not fly, that were blind. Mutations have begun with animals, with birds.”

The Rose Garden of Fukushima features a collection of photos of an actual garden that existed in Fukushima, Japan. Boasting over 7500 bushes of roses and 50-thousand visitors a year, the Garden was rendered null and void in an instant due to the triple disaster — earthquake, tsunami, and meltdown.

The forward to Maya’s book was written by John Roos, former US Ambassador to Japan 2009-13: “The incredible tale of Katz Okada and his Fukushima rose garden was told here by Maya Moore… gives you a small window into what the people of Tohoku faced.”

Roos’ “small window” could very well serve as a metaphor for a huge black hole smack dab in the heart of civilization. Similarly, Fukushima is a veritable destruction machine that consumes everything in its path, and beyond, and its path is likely to grow. For certain, it is not going away.

Thus, TEPCO (Tokyo Electric Power Company) is deeply involved in an asymmetric battle against enormously powerful unleashed out-of-control forces of E=mc2.

Clearly, TEPCO has its back to the wall. Furthermore, it’s doubtful TEPCO will “break the back of the beast.” In fact, it may be an impossible task.

Maybe, just maybe, Greater Tokyo’s 38 million residents will eventually be evacuated. Who knows for sure?

Only Godzilla knows!

 

 

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Wed, 06/24/2015 - 22:08 | 6231871 Bollixed
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Bigger than 9/11?

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 22:14 | 6231884 Seek_Truth
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Differences:

9/11 = quick death for thousands.

Fukushima = slow death for millions.

Plus, Fukushima has limited potential in terms of marketing "hero" merchandise, and wars on "terrrism."

 

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 22:29 | 6231916 BLOTTO
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Fukushima is Jim Stone's magnum opus...

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He even has a permanent link on the top right hand corner of his page.

http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/fukureport1b.pdf

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http://82.221.129.208/index1.html

 

 

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 22:32 | 6231938 Bollixed
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The cover up for 9/11 has already killed millions due to the wars created by that lie. It's high time to send those perps to Fukushima to live in cages next to the reactors.

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 22:41 | 6231969 TheGreatRecovery
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Both are big.

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 22:43 | 6231975 Anusocracy
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So your geiger counter has registered a big jump in radiation levels?

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 23:06 | 6232045 Sages wife
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The 2 events are opposites. One designed for maximum MSM consumption; the other an incredibly successful cover-up.

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 23:12 | 6232068 Four chan
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the deadliest catch is extra deadly after all those crab eat the dead stuff falling to the bottom of the big dead sea called the pacific ocean. 

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 23:14 | 6232074 Bollixed
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Dang, I microwaved some crab. I'm gonna die even faster...

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 23:37 | 6232151 Hans-Zandvliet
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By the looks of yourself, it won't really matter to you, will it. ;-)

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 23:47 | 6232174 Bollixed
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You shoulda seen me before the operation...

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 00:13 | 6232245 jeff montanye
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Fukushima will likely go down in history as the (second) biggest cover-up of the 21st Century.

possibly the gold in fort knox and elsewhere in the west is third?

well maybe in the first fifteen years of this century.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 04:07 | 6232567 strannick
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35 million Tokoyo residents will.be evacuated out of the land of the living by.radioactivity, before the government would ever evacuate them.

Who is the government at that.point?

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 05:17 | 6232596 turnoffthewater
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What about the banks and policies of war

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 05:27 | 6232605 jbvtme
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3/11/2011.  33 bitches

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 06:24 | 6232642 philipat
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Differences: Fukushima was an act of God, whereas 9/11 was..........................

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 06:35 | 6232647 Bearwagon
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Fukushima was an act of human hybris, it should never have been built at all, especially not at that location. It would be debatable, but I'll give you that, that the tsunami maybe was an act of god - but it wasn't the lord who put that power plant in it's way - that was simply an act of utmost stupidity.

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 23:31 | 6232131 DeadFred
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Who knows what out Geiger counters would register? My cousin was employed in routine testing of samples for radiation. Right after Fukashima she and all the others were laid off since there was no longer any reason to test for radiation. All the rules that made people send samples to her company were done away with.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 02:14 | 6232465 Karaio
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The Russians offered technology to block radiation from Fukushima.

The same who used to Chernobyl.

It consists of a yellow and concrete sponge.

The central Fukushima were built by North American companies, the guys did not accept the help.

The Russians know that the radiation will affect little on their territory.

So the thought is, you fuck!

Have you seen any Russian or Chinese ship around? ^

You know how much it cost to clear an aircraft carrier radiation North American?

The drought in California is normal.

What is not normal is as much fish dying.

For my part, when my wife buys a can of sardines in the supermarket, I seek the source.

If caught in the Pacific game in the trash or give it to the cat eat.

Like watching a cat glowing in the dark of night kkkkkkkkkk.

It is an excellent target.

Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

The Russians sent back home over 1000 vehicles because had radioactivity, an engine plant was 48 km away from Fukushima.

It's all on the Web, just search.

Large corporations, big shit.

Until they close that radioactive hole, all Pacific Ocean is fucked.

Where are the ships of Greenpeace? Some in the Pacific protesting Fukushima?

None!

They know the shit is that!

hehe!

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:19 | 6233175 Woodyg
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just wait for 20 years when the pacific ocean is DEAD.

Can humans survive IF we kill off the Ocean?

I don't think so.......

and do we as humans Deserve to survive as a species IF we kill off the oceans and bring about the next big Extinction Event....

we are fukued!

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 21:11 | 6235704 malek
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You can buy one yourself for $300 and start measuring.

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 23:33 | 6232141 r3ct1f13r
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Currently no.

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 23:15 | 6232082 zorba THE GREEK
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Damn, I had to read this just before going to bed. Nightmares for sure tonight.

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 23:28 | 6232121 Hans-Zandvliet
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And now, connecting the dots:

  • Some 700 nuclear power plants in the world, most of them with large pools of spent fuel rods because there still are no safe facilities to dispose of them.
  • Many nuclear power plants on de sea shore, because they need large quantities of cooling water.
  • Sea level rise by the end of this century expected to be between 1 and 2 metres.
  • Collapse of industrial civilisation expected before or around mid 21st century (Limits to Growth, 30 Year Update), which will result in an incapability to operate and maintain nuclear power plants and deal with the (still unresolved problem of) radioactive waste (high-tech solutions cannot be maintained during an industrial civilization's collapse)
  • At present, in general, a complete denial of these facts and future predicaments from grass-roots levels all the way up to national and global political institutions, which guarantees there won't be done anything proactive about it anytime soon, until it's too late (in terms of industrial civilisation collapse and the dissaperance of necesary high-tech solutions)

See the dots? Can you connect them? I'm tired of doing it for you!

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 23:57 | 6232197 Ms No
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Most of that is pretty accurate until you get to the part about sea levels rising.  Nobody here will join the global warming panic.  Some even believe we may be entering a cooling period. 

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 00:15 | 6232247 jeff montanye
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tell that to the polar bears

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 00:39 | 6232287 Ms No
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I am concerned about the polar bears they are probably being radiated to a crisp as Alaska and the north in general took at least one huge hit of Fuku's love.  Funny how the same government that constantly screams about global warming is dead silent on Fukushima, but they have you attention right where they want it don't they?

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 00:30 | 6232277 palmereldritch
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Did you say,

"Sun even believe we may be entering a cooling period?"

http://www.express.co.uk/news/nature/586404/Britain-freezing-winters-slu...

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 02:23 | 6232470 buyingsterling
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Um, carbon taxes will cool the pools of spent rods when the grid goes down? Did I connect it all up right?

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 06:16 | 6232638 THE 4th Quadrant
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We're going to spaceship the rods into the sun.

It's perfectly safe. I promise.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 08:45 | 6232909 TuPhat
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Most of those plants will be decomissioned and all radioactive material removed by another 20 years.  The real problem is what source will replace them for electric power.  Wind and solar are nothing but a joke and require huge gov handouts to keep operating.  There are safe ways to store spent fuel.  We have been doing it in the US for more than half a century now.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 20:54 | 6235657 AE911Truth
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Re: "The real problem is what source will replace them for electric power"

How about 7 billion of these:

http://intalek.com/AuroraTekInfo/PUP3000UC_SpecSheet.pdf

 

American manufacturing jobs.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 09:04 | 6232960 firstdivision
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Dispose of the rods into the same holes that they came from.  Shut down all uranium mines, but the shit back in the hole, and create thorium reactors.  That'll never happen cause the US won't get its enriched uranium for their bombs.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 03:20 | 6232524 invisible touch
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fukushima due to ocean link with coastal issue with west america, is starting to poizon the whole planet and by its time around 100year will have decimated billions of humans thru the food contamination, and there is nothing that can be done.

we are dying, it is a fact.

how much people in west europ have developed typhoïd cancer and such pathologies because of the radioactive cloud making serious exposition, in medias on 86' they said  cloud has been stopped at frontiere and as made a contour over the country... what a bs.

 

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 06:37 | 6232648 ebear
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"....and there is nothing that can be done."

I can think of something, but it's kind of drastic.

Evacuate the area, then drop a 100 megaton bomb on the site.

Granted, it's not a perfect solution, but it's got to be better than letting it drag on for decades.

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 22:28 | 6231924 freewolf7
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What? Radiation in the Pacific? What? Since 2011? What? They didn't tell us? What? The games's on tonight? Yeah!!

Extinction level event.

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 22:38 | 6231960 Azwethinkweiz
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Yeah, they need to revamp the Forest Gump Blu-Ray Disc and add Radioactive Shrimp to Bubba's list.

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 22:31 | 6231927 IRC162
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Consider the force multiplier of TPP trade agreement, with the Fuku magic dust....  Do you really think they missed that one?  I think it's a bit more devious....These guys, I tell ya what...

 

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 22:31 | 6231932 FredFlintstone
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"force multiplier" that sounds real scientific

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 22:36 | 6231946 IRC162
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Thought I had you for a sec, fred. do you share such gems often?

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 22:36 | 6231952 FredFlintstone
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Actually that is a cool term that I just googled. I need to work that into my repertoire. Thanks!

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 23:01 | 6232029 IRC162
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Sorry for the snark.  I tried to make it go away nefore you replied...

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 22:11 | 6231876 yogibear
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All governments know if you BS consistently and long enough everyone believes it's factual.

Japanese society and now the US are like cattle. Have the gov/corporate media pump out the BS to make any responsibility disappear. 

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 22:13 | 6231877 NoDebt
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If you're an elite and there is a disaster, radioactive contamination is the kind of disaster you want.  You can't see it, you can't feel it, you can't smell it, you can't taste it.  All that is required is repeated denials and assurances that everything is fine.  <Poof> it doesn't exist any more.

Cancer?  Fuck you, shit happens.  Growing a third head?  Tough shit, buddy, must have been something you ate.  

There is no way to put this genie back in the bottle.  But it's easy to deny the genie exists.

 

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 08:38 | 6232886 TuPhat
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No debt, your posts are usually good.  You should stick to topics you know something about.  ZH posts articles like this because they know nothing about radiation and it is obvious you don't either.

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 22:12 | 6231880 buzzsaw99
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they have to lie, for the children.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 14:10 | 6232192 JuliaS
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Nothing some good PR won't solve:

http://s24.postimg.org/yuokrx3ut/tepco.jpg

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 22:13 | 6231881 q99x2
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YeeeeeeeHaaaaaaaa these are the corporations of the TPP that will govern the NWO of the western world. Get ready to die bitchez.

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 22:13 | 6231882 chunga
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a little off topic rocket powered lincoln continental jumps acroos st lawrence river

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpUMSarCSQw

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 22:17 | 6231891 NoDebt
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A little??  You realize, of course, that happened in the 1970s, right?

Nonetheless..... "You're drivin' me to drinkin' in your hot rod Lincoln."  Go drop that in a Google search.

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 23:33 | 6232139 Dolar in a vortex
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Maybe a different artist sang it: "Son you're gonna' drive me to drinkin' if you don't stop drivin' that hot. rod. Lincoln.

Times sure have changed.

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 23:49 | 6232178 hamstercheese
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thanks for commercial break! Now back to our regularly scheduled meltdown.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 00:16 | 6232248 Gypsy Ramono
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Chunga, that was really cool!!

Have you read that Warner Bros are going to discontinue making the 1969 General Lee Dodge Charger because of the Rebel Flag? PC gone fuckin crazy. The Dukes of Hazard were cool. http://www.theverge.com/2015/6/23/8836571/dukes-of-hazzard-car-toys-confederate-flag

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 04:04 | 6232565 panicearly
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"any selfdoubt or hesitation can cost him his life"

We're all in baby, no turnin back!

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 22:23 | 6231905 Goldbugger
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The corium has melted through, and is contanimating the ground water and the ocean at un heard of levels.The Pacific ocean is dying and this is infecting all the children . And yet these fuckers deny realitly. They will all stand before the creator one day and give account.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 00:11 | 6232235 Government need...
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I'd like to buy Congress a round . . . of Polonium shots.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 00:49 | 6232315 napper
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Congress is more toxic than Polonium, I suspect.

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 22:27 | 6231921 HenryHall
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And even if, by some magic, the manage to contain it - sea level rise over the next century (or perhaps merely next few decades) will undo all that work.

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 23:11 | 6232039 squid
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"sea level rise over the next century (or perhaps merely next few decades)" or perhaps the next mellenium or perhaps.....

 

Sir James Clark Ross in 1841 etched what he believed mean sea level to be into a rock outcrop outside of Port Arthur in Hobart Tasmania.

It is, basically the same. Not moved.

I know MANY hydrographic surveyors with MPA here in Singapore and they have seen no tide gauge movement in over 80 years of observations. This caused MANY political problems with the government who some years back believed all the IPCC hocum. They couldn't understand why the data from the field did not match with what the politicians at the IPCC said.....but then, when you use the proper word for the members of the IPCC (which is part of the UN), politicians, it all makes sense.

 

If you check with the port of New York, the port of Vancouver, the port of Halifax, etc you will generally find the same thing.

 

So my question to you sir is:

Just where is sea level rising?

 

Please do us all a favor and DON'T quote Al Gore? We're after some facts here.

 

Squid

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 01:52 | 6232436 Botox4U2
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"If you check with the port of New York, the port of Vancouver"........

Right next to Vancouver is a city called Richmond BC which by invitation of its government has become the new Hong Kong/Shanghai. Richmond is sinking yearly due to hundreds of brand new 10 story condo buildings built by Chinese. It used to be that no such construction was allowed but now that the Asian Invasion is in full force, it seems that the bribes and greed of politicians is taking its toll on the area. What the politicians don't tell us is how they have put a muzzle on the media regarding Fukishima and the huge amout of radiation the west coast of Canada is getting. I guess the joke is on the developers and immigrants. Mutations aren't just occuring in the city skyline but even the cars on the road are turning from old Toyota Camry's into new Range Rovers and expensive BMW's.

YES, the Vancouver area is being flooded slowly and there are now radioactive sushi fish restaurants on every block. 

Seriously though, my wife is Japanese and her rellies still over there are telling her that it is worse than we can imagine, so bad that it is socially unnaceptable to even talk about it and so largely the media doesn't. One more earthquake in the area will send the population of Tokyo south as far as Okinawa and finally the Americans there will be pushed into the sea where they belonged decades ago.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 05:47 | 6232619 Tinky
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You can't be so dumb as to think that a rise would be uniform throughout the world.

From the ipcc website (and in basic agreement with many others) [emphasis mine]:

Global sea level rose by about 120 m during the several millennia that followed the end of the last ice age (approximately 21,000 years ago), and stabilised between 3,000 and 2,000 years ago. Sea level indicators suggest that global sea level did not change significantly from then until the late 19th century. The instrumental record of modern sea level change shows evidence for onset of sea level rise during the 19th century. Estimates for the 20th century show that global average sea level rose at a rate of about 1.7 mm yr–1.

Satellite observations available since the early 1990s provide more accurate sea level data with nearly global coverage. This decade-long satellite altimetry data set shows that since 1993, sea level has been rising at a rate of around 3 mm yr–1, significantly higher than the average during the previous half century. Coastal tide gauge measurements confirm this observation, and indicate that similar rates have occurred in some earlier decades.

In agreement with climate models, satellite data and hydrographic observations show that sea level is not rising uniformly around the world. In some regions, rates are up to several times the global mean rise, while in other regions sea level is falling. Substantial spatial variation in rates of sea level change is also inferred from hydrographic observations. Spatial variability of the rates of sea level rise is mostly due to non-uniform changes in temperature and salinity and related to changes in the ocean circulation.

Near-global ocean temperature data sets made available in recent years allow a direct calculation of thermal expansion. It is believed that on average, over the period from 1961 to 2003, thermal expansion contributed about one-quarter of the observed sea level rise, while melting of land ice accounted for less than half. Thus, the full magnitude of the observed sea level rise during that period was not satisfactorily explained by those data sets, as reported in the IPCC Third Assessment Report.

 

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 06:42 | 6232652 Moe Howard
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Since any moron knows that water seeks its own level, and all of the oceans are connected, any discrepency noted as to levels would have to do with the land around the oceans, meaning  the land is rising or sinking.

Please take a bowl of water and show me how you can have one area of water higher in the bowl than another area.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 06:49 | 6232659 overmedicatedun...
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radiation scares us common folk, can't see it taste it at levels that kill..I just know the jurasic extinction was caused by them dino's foooling around with nukes.

when one listens to experts remember they built that nuke plant there and they were the smartest people in the room..now let them explain global warmning to you cause they be experts.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 08:01 | 6232767 Tinky
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*sigh*

While it is true that land masses rising or sinking can be factors, there are others, as well (e.g. winds, currents, etc.). You can learn more through the link below.

The original poster was using a couple of data points in an effort to bolster a sweeping claim, and such an approach is clearly dumb. It would be equally easy to point out places where the sea level is rising measurably.

Finally, as it is a fact that differences and trends in sea levels vary around the world, your simplistic "bowl" view of the issue only serves to underscore that your avatar is apparently appropriate.

http://e360.yale.edu/feature/the_secret_of_sea_level_rise_it_will_vary_g...
Wed, 06/24/2015 - 22:28 | 6231926 serotonindumptruck
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Extinction Level Event

 

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 22:33 | 6231933 ThroxxOfVron
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The ONLY way these disaters will be adverted is to MANDATE & ENFORCE that ALL Major Shareholdrss, Politicians, and Management MUST live within the confines of the Nuclear Power Plants WITH THEIR ENTIRE Families.

UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES WHATSOVER MUST THESE PERSONS OR THEIR IMMECDIATE FAMILIES EVER BE ALLOWED TO VACATE THE QUARTERS DIRECTLY ADJACEMNT TO THE NUCLEAR FACILITES.

IF THE POLITICIANS AND TEPCO MANAGERS AND LARGEST SHAREHOLDERS HAD TO LIVE WITHIN ONE MILE OF THE PLANTS PERPETUALLY: THERE WOULD BE NO DANGER.

THE DAME MUST BE DEMANDED OF ALL NUCLEAR FACILITES WORLD WIDE.

IF IT IS SAFE THEY WILL HAPPILY AQUIECE.

IF THEY TRY TO LEAVE THEY SHOULD ALL BE SHOT TRYING TO LEAVE.

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 23:10 | 6232059 squid
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And just where are you going to find the gaudian angles to do this "mandating" and "enforcing"? Need to quote Joseph stalin here:

"It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything."

 

Such is life. There is no superman and Jesus ain't comin to set things a-right.

 

Squid

 

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 03:26 | 6232539 dreadnaught
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When the Cesium 195 hits our shores, and is spread by aresol via waves braking on our shores, we should see

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 22:32 | 6231937 TheAnswerIs42
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The 1M dead from Chernobyl is absolute BS. There were several thousand cases of thyroid cancer, but that type cf cancer is easily treated and is essentially very low risk. The environment around the Chernobyl reactor has higher than normal levels of radiation, but has not affected the wildlife or local ecology in any measurable way.

Here's a link debunking the Caldicott Chernobyl alarmism.

Remember, she has books to sell and lectures to give...

 

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 22:37 | 6231955 waterwitch
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Ask the folks in Belarus about 'no impacts' from Chernobyl:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ujAG_Ofj4M

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 22:55 | 6232015 squid
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No one is claiming there are no impacts but.....

The news is bad enough, why does it have to be embellished?

Once you lie/exaggerate, you destroy your own argument, you cannot be trusted after that.

Fukushima is a mess but I'd like to get "non-embellished" information which seems impossible.

You either get TEPCO and the Japanese Government both of whom lie and obfuscate or you get these anti-nuclear shills.

 

As for the dead zone around Chernobyl, it looks pretty green to me.

 

Squid

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 23:18 | 6232094 Arnold
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Good point.

I know too much already, I'm trying to cut back. /no sarc

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 00:53 | 6232326 caustixoid
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If you want to minimize the effects of radiation you only talk about thyroid cancer and leukemia, and radioactive bananas.  And you rely on reports from the WHO, who have any health studies on radiation vetted by the IAEA.  'It's safe!'

The "one million dead" from Chernobyl has some pretty good data to back it up (mainly Russian-language), most of the deaths being from HEART DISEASE.    American data says 250,000 people died in the 3 months after Chernobyl that seasonally shouldn't have died then.   Sure, probably mostly a premature culling of the sick and infirm, but still a tribute to profound effects of low-level radiation distributed over large populations.

 

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 07:47 | 6232776 Took Red Pill
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This is a bit old but still relevent;

http://www.globalresearch.ca/chernobyl-the-consequences-of-the-catastrop...

"records now available, some 985,000 people died, mainly of cancer, as a result of the Chernobyl accident. That is between when the accident occurred in 1986 and 2004. More deaths, it projects, will follow"

", there was fallout all over the world as the winds kept changing direction "so the radioactive emissions" covered an enormous territory."

There is a breakdown by country, highlighted by maps, of where the radionuclides fell out. Beyond Ukraine, Belarus and Russia, the countries included Bulgaria, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Italy, Poland, Sweden and the United Kingdom

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 13:06 | 6234126 Bunga Bunga
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not affected the wildlife or local ecology in any measurable way.

You haven't read scientific reports recently, have you?

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 22:33 | 6231943 kowalli
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Reators made by USA, so i still waiting for american hero to fix this...

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 00:06 | 6232220 napper
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The Japanese government wanted to go cheap and skipped crucial safety design features, resulting in the protest and resignation of two key American engineers. The Japanese nevertheless went ahead and built it without the key protection in place. 

 

So I guess the foreign policy mafia in the US had taken good note and in due time made use of the flaw when Japan seemed to be drifting too close toward China and Russia.

 

It should be obvious from the outset that the screw-up was monumental, because the US government almost immediately promised "aid" and sent 2 aircraft carriers (supposedly hardened against radioactivity) over there, BUT when the carriers were within a few hundred miles (maybe more) of Fukushima, Washington suddenly announced a change of plan - and the two carriers would change course and make a port call to somewhere else!

 

One should have smelled a rat right there.

 

Some less lucky US sailors / soldiers stationed nearby got hit with a heavy dose of radiation. Now their lawsuits are still pending.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 01:12 | 6232359 suteibu
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What bullshit.  GE designed and built the reactors.  The US government pressured the Japanese government to accept American-made nuclear power plants in Japan - a very unpopular decision given many people still walked the streets of Japan suffering the lingering effects from the A-bombs. 

Eisenhower, who was all for the plan, noted that the Japanese were ignorant about nuclear power and had to be educated (read: propagandized).

The Mark 1 reactors used in Japan are the same reactors GE installed in plants across the US.  Those engineers did not resign because Japan "wanted to go cheap," they resigned because the Mark 1 was flawed and no one at GE did anything about it.

Which makes Fukushima the third nuclear disaster the US visited on Japan.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 01:17 | 6232380 napper
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You mean the US government pressured the Japanese to adopt a far less expensive design when a  safer design would have been more profitable for GE?

 

Can you smell your own bullshit?

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 01:30 | 6232401 suteibu
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You are trying to construct facts from twisted logic. 

The Mark 1 reactors are the same design and build in Japan as they are in the US.  Fortunately for the US, they have not suffered from a 9.0 earthquake and a 40 meter tsunami

TEPCO and the Japanese government do not have clean hands in this disaster, but it wasn't because they wanted to go cheap all those decades ago.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 11:24 | 6237803 napper
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You can't even seem to focus on the real issue and make a coherent response.

 

Did the Japanese govt choose a cheaper design over a safer but more expensive design? Yes or no?

 

Did key engineers in the project warn the Japanese about the dangers of the chosen design? Did they resign in protest of the design? Yes or no?

 

You made a bullshit claim about US pressuring Japan to adopt a less expensive but unsafe design.

 

 

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 01:24 | 6232393 suteibu
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More bullshit.  The US sent the Ronald Reagan, at the time in the waters near Singapore, to assist at Fukushima.  The George Washington, which is stationed at Yokosuka, went to sea to avoid radiation exposure. 

As for the Ronald Reagan being radiation-hardened, at least 51 sailors suffered sickness and there are lawsuits filed by a number of sailors against TEPCO (I guess they can't sue the US Navy).  The Ronald Reagan was not diverted to another port and was a major asset to "Operation Tomodachi" to aid and assist the victims of the tsunami, including search and rescue on land and sea.

Is someone paying you to make this shit up?

Sat, 06/27/2015 - 00:09 | 6240464 napper
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This delusional ranting of yours is quite entertaining I must say.

 

You are not suffering from Fukushima radiation poisoning in your frontal lobe, are you?

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 00:13 | 6232242 Elliott Eldrich
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"Reators made by USA, so i still waiting for american hero to fix this..."

Those reactors were a badly flawed design, and they knew it, but General Electric decided to go ahead and build them anyways, even after multiple Ph.D engineers quit the project in protest due to the flaws. Since we have "corporate personhood" here in the economic rape camp known as the USA, there is a person named General Electric who knowingly designed and built a facility with an extremely high potential for a massive meltdown, like what eventually happened. However, since Mr. General Electric is very, very wealthy and powerful, he will end up not even being inconvenienced with unpleasant accusations, let alone face any actual charges. 

Compare and contrast this with what happens to the average prole who annoys a police officer. If they're lucky, they may survive the experience. If they're unlucky, they become a new feature page on rotten.com. 

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 22:45 | 6231985 davidalan1
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Single biggest disaster in human history and uh NO NEWS accept on enenews.com.....we must deserve to be radiated

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 23:57 | 6232198 TheMeatTrapper
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You want news attention? Hoist a Confederate flag over Fukushima and you'll have attention alright.....

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 22:46 | 6231989 Yen Cross
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 The irony is that one day Z/H posters will either be regarded as terrorists, or Founding Fathers.

 Welcome to the brave new world Soviets>>> Forward

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 23:21 | 6232103 Arnold
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Never up, never in.

Seemed like the proper response.(shrug)

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 23:36 | 6232150 Dolar in a vortex
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No guts, no glory.

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 23:10 | 6232058 gammab0y
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I have no idea how bad Fukushima really is,  and I have no doubt that every government is lying,  but to exalt a 40 year anti nuclear zealot as a voice of thoughtful reason is ridiculous.   Anyone as invested as she is in the axe she has to grind should be treated with extreme skepticism. 

And can we get a link to support that silly 1 million dead from Chernobyl claim,  because that's just sounds idiotic. 

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 00:26 | 6232273 Elliott Eldrich
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You point out one of the biggest problems with trying to find out what is actually happening at Fukushima, and that is all of the news about it comes from one of two sources: Those who have every interest in minimizing what is happening there, and those who have every interest in sensationalizing what is happening there.

However, I do believe it is a fact that as of this moment there are three reactor cores that are quite literally missing, nobody knows where they are, and nobody and nothing can get close enough to tell where they are. Furthermore, it also seems to be a fact that literally thousands of tons of highly radioactive water are pouring into the Pacific ocean every single day. Last but not least, it seems beyond any shadow of any doubt that the despicable vermin running Tepco are cowardly, incompetent swine of the highest order, and if there were any justice in this world they'd all be rotting in gibbets over the local town square.

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 23:18 | 6232087 Son of Loki
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<< As the disaster happened, enormous levels of radiation hit Tokyo.>>

 

There's a reason why all the foreign embassies quietly evacuated within hours after the tsunami hit the reactors. The Big Wigs knew from the start this was a disaster.

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 23:25 | 6232111 Arnold
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Most peeps left indonesia for the Christmas tsunami too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=2004_Indian_Ocean_earthquake_and_tsunami

Poorly made point.

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 23:38 | 6232155 Zen Master
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Ummmmm..,this story is TOTAL BULLSHIT!

How many of you have ever been to Nagasaki or Chernobyl? No problems there. Plants and animals thrive there So do you think they have demonized nuclear energy and supposed radiation in order so the commoners would reject it? And why would they do that? So you'll pay THROUGH THE NOSE for your energy.

You really want a better world? 

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 00:31 | 6232280 napper
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Please kindly go to Fukushima with a few film and digital cameras for a few weeks and let us know via Youtube and / or Facebook how nice and normal Fukushima is now.

 

Many thanks.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 00:45 | 6232304 Elliott Eldrich
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"Please kindly go to Fukushima with a few film and digital cameras for a few weeks and let us know via Youtube and / or Facebook how nice and normal Fukushima is now."

How about we take up a collection and send him there? Maybe put together a "gofundme" page or something similar? I'll chip in the first ten bucks...

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 01:08 | 6232361 napper
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I'd gladly contribute $10 for the first week, $20 for the second week, $30 for the third week, and $40 for the fourth week, payable at the end of the week and upon credible showing of at least 8 hours of outdoor or on-site video/photography work without anti-radiation gear or clothing.

 

 

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 00:56 | 6232327 joego1
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You need a radioactive enema you fucking shit cake. You must be a cockroach masquerading as a human (read Men in Black). You are a radio active  Zen butt fucker. I'll pay $1000 per kilowatt to see you flare up in your own glowing bull shit.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 08:36 | 6232885 Getting Old Sucks
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Keep eating seafood.  No, they didn't test positive.  Take that cruise holiday to alaska.  The ship's water from the sea won't hurt you. /sarc.  Just remember it only takes one hot particle breathed or ingested to reek havoc on your body.  No, it won't be proven that it happened.  No one will believe it because TPTB says it aint so.   

Wed, 06/24/2015 - 23:57 | 6232199 steelrules
Thu, 06/25/2015 - 00:03 | 6232204 Rusty Shorts
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FUKUSHIMA is far FAR worse than one can imagine. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mCNRmbva48  - rewind to beginning

 

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 00:52 | 6232324 Buster Cherry
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I worked at a place where we made sources for industrial xrays, using iridium pellets. We had to replace the plastic pieces in the hot cell weekly, because the radiation degraded it that fast. Imagine millions of curies of radation beaming any robot and the effect on the insulation of its wiring.

This shit cannot be fixed. The west coast is toast. I think God blessed California with a drought so people would leave it in advance of the real contamination yet to come. The living Japs should abandon Japan.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 00:02 | 6232210 teslaberry
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90% of counterpunch articles are total horseshit. 10% are ok.

 

this is FIRMLY in the 90% of horseshit.

 

it is the weak mind that can be set to believe anything it hears when a contrarian buzz topic is raise.

 

" oh yea, they lied about fukushima at some point so everything in this article is true"

 

seriously FUCK THIS ARTICLE. PLEASE STOP POSTING SHIT AS SHIT LIKE THIS TYLERS.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 00:54 | 6232332 steveo77
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You are 98% incorrect, wake the fuck up, take the red pill dude

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 11:34 | 6233668 Zen Master
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No intelligent life here. All tin foil conspiracy nut cases.

Most people on this post have bought into bullshit propoganda. I feel sorry for them because life could actually be beautiful for them if they would think critically and question everything. Don't repeat the things you've heard...investigate and ask questions.

Anyway...it's just peeing in the ocean. Means nothing.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 00:10 | 6232233 Ms No
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I was listening to an interview on the topic of Fuku not long ago and a Japanese citizen called in and asked if it was safe to live in southern Japan or if they needed to leave the island.  This person then claimed that they don't have a clue what's going on and are virtually not allowed to speak about it... at least not without consequences. 

If this is the case they are even worse off than we are.  Japan was an amazing place.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 00:12 | 6232240 Government need...
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Time to hit 'em with 20 million wetbacks, plus a breeding pair of Negros.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 00:51 | 6232320 joego1
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Not sure they are able to breed.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 01:04 | 6232353 caustixoid
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Japan has a new media law that basically makes it a crime to report something embarrassing to Japan (i.e. the Japanese gov't).  It's unclear if the source of the law was to keep the truth of the economic collapse from the Japanese people, or the truth about Fukushima.  Probably both.

Japanese reporters will just do what they've always done with sensitive stories (previously to avoid otracization, now to avoid jail):  leak them to foreigners. Once foreigners report the story Japanese media can report that "foreigners are saying this about Japan".

Still, scary times when you actually make truth a crime rather than just a "conspiracy theory".

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 01:36 | 6232415 idontcare
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A friend of 30 years went to Tokyo for three weeks 4 months after Fukushima.   Last year, he developed aggressive thyroid and liver cancer.  Outside of an occasional cold, this guy was the epitome of health his whole life.   Now he just is hoping to see another New Year on Planet Earth.  Maybe it is a coincidence, maybe it is not.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 00:22 | 6232258 Radical Marijuana
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I stated my opinions on this topic here:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-09/japanese-over-confidence-complacency-proved-deadly-fukushima-iaea-chief-blasts

Japanese "Over-Confidence & Complacency" Proved Deadly In Fukushima, IAEA Chief Blasts

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 00:48 | 6232312 Ms No
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I had a discussion, if one can call it that, with a woman who works at a local coffee shop. This woman is a dogmatic liberal and as such is always prodding me for my opinions to decide if she likes me or not. As it temps have been as high as 115 in my area lately she commented on the heat and then proceeded to gripe about how Al Gore warned us of this years ago.  I don't want to have to be rude to her so usually I distract her. 

I asked her if she was keeping tabs on Fukushima, she responded "that was years ago".  Once again she left me speechless. 

I shit you not.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 00:53 | 6232328 joker2thethief
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 We  have a finite planet with 7+billion people and growing . We cannot sustain this level of population without increasingly intense use of the earth's resources, be it water, soil, fisheries,minerals , etc ...and of course energy to make exploitation of all the other resources possible. Paul Ehrlich was right to focus on population as a primary concern.

Turning to energy, there is of course a price for all forms of energy we use, be it coal, oil, natural gas,hydro, "renewables, or nuclear. What have each of these energy sources cost in terms of human lives? What will be the cost of global warming ? Where is the comparative analysis ?

I find the author's take on Fukushima too long on emotion and too  short on factual analysis. I am particularly skeptical of any analysis that incorporates Jane Fonda's "China Syndrome,"  and finds a conspiracy behind every bush.

There are many responsible and capable people working in the U.S. nuclear industry I actually worked in the Navy nuclear program and never observed anything except the highest standards of professionalism and honesty. Fukushima was of course a much different reactor design and there were clearly flaws in the design in terms of long term emergency cooling. There are things the U.S. nuclear facilities can and should do to improve long term safety.

Rather than worrying about Fukushima, which will not significantly affect the health of people living in the USA, and certainly will not melt through the earth to China, we should learn from the Japanese and focus on improving the "grid down" emergency cooling for US nuclear plants and get our spent fuel out of temporary storage pools and into  the Yucca Mountain storage facility where it will be much better protected.

On a pragmatic level, I think we should be much more worried about the idiots we have running things in Washington, about the potentially huge social consequences of a financial system meltdown that is dangerously near, about the risk of EMP/solar event/grid hacking that causes loss of our national power system , about destruction of our oceans from hydrocarbon acidity, about global warming, about over population, about the increasing risk of the many regional wars expanding into war between the great powers, and of course, about an enormously complex global economic/production system that would appear to be far  beyond our ability to understand let alone capably manage.

Fukushima while a tragedy for thosr living nearby, is way down on my list of  threats to world civilization.

 

 

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 03:02 | 6232499 pgroup
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You are either part of the solution or part of the problem. If you believe there's too many people, be consistent and kill yourself.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 15:55 | 6234763 Paveway IV
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"...There are many responsible and capable people working in the U.S. nuclear industry I actually worked in the Navy nuclear program and never observed anything except the highest standards of professionalism and honesty..."

I would have little hesitation letting Navy nukes run any reactor or regulatory agency. The best ones in the NRC use to be Navy nukes, and their attitude spread to anyone else that was involved in the inspection and regulatory functions. Unfortunately, the political appointee psychopaths in charge of the DOE and NRC have all but trashed the organizations.

Aside from my cynical attitude towards the current director's policy of cover-ups, secrecy and punishing whistle-blowers, there is direct, damning proof: the naval reactor guys you want IN the program more than anything have been quitting in disgust over the last few years - especially the older, experienced guys. The message to any newer Navy men and women in the program (or anyone for that matter) is that obedience and secrecy are far more important than quality and safety. You don't do the right thing because it's the right thing. You go with the flow and don't cause any trouble, or you get fired/quit. Whistle-blowers will be destroyed or killed, so abandon all sense of morality if you do chose to stay.

The bastards running the NRC mistook the old naval reactor guy's professionalism as obedience to authority. The NRC never figured the naval guys would rather quit than put on a charade for the public and blow the directors to keep their jobs. I'm sorry for them that it came to this, but I admire the old Navy nuke's conviction for walking. 

Fuck the NRC and the electric utility revolving door. Fuck the arrogant, pompous bastards that supposedly run it and drive good people away.

 

For anyone else hoping everything will be OK:

The NRC bastards can be trusted no more than TEPCO or Japan's regulators. In fact, they had a big hand in advising them on secrecy and outlawing criticism in the Japanese press.

If you hear of an accident in the U.S. and the NRC says there's no problem and shelter in place, then get the hell out and move as far away as possible - you have lost everything. They will kill you and your family without hesitation if it means controlling the narrative, protecting the cheap-ass utilities and censoring any bad news about their decrepit atomic boilers.

Remember that if your house and property is contaminated by ANY release, then you'll get NOTHING for your loss. A few (and I mean a very few) people in the most contaminated area of Fukushima got a few yen compensation, but families that moved away so their kids wouldn't get cancer got NOTHING. It will take years for TEPCO to pay out the most meager compensation for property losses IF you qualify, and they disqualify everyone. Human losses? Fuck that - nobody EVER dies from a nuclear accident. EVER. The government makes sure of that. 

There are still old Japanese people living in cardboard boxes in gymnasiums because TEPCO won't pay the retirement home enough to rebuild. Whatever trickle of compensation TEPCO has been forced to pay barely covers living expenses for people that did lose their homes and property. As far as their cars, furniture, clothes or anything else: TEPCO says they can fuck off - it's not their responsibility. Farmers? Fuck off - TEPCO legally owes them nothing, or isn't about to pay for another decade or two. Ask a farmer how many decades of reserve they have if they were suddenly booted off their farm? Mortgage? Oh, hell yeah - you sill have to pay that if your home/farm is contaminated. You never hear about all the foreclosures around Fukushima - whatever wasn't lost to radiation was lost to the banks.

Your homeowner's insurance in the U.S. does not cover ANY property damange or loss from a nuclear accident. The NRC, utilities and government have all claimed they're exempt from almost all liability. If you are lucky enough to go somewhere and live on your own, forget about a job - nobody want's to hire Fukushima refugees in Japan.

Head to your bug-out location? Heh - sure. Better have plenty of gas because there will be none (everyone tried to leave Fukushima at the same time). The DHS Stazi will have roadblocks set up so you won't be able to use any highways they figure are in the exclusion zone. The feds will very likely force you to stay home - a mandatory 24-hour curfew 'for your protection' and to keep the highways clear for government vehicles. Try to escape and they'll confiscate your car, everything you're carrying and send you off to camp FEMA. That gold you hid in the spare tire? It's going to the FEMA scrapyard. 

When you and your family are living in some shit-hole internment camp in the middle of nowhere - broke, without transportation or extra clothes, 100% dependent on FEMA - you can bemoan the fact that you were warned today how screwed you would be if there ever was an accident, but you gambled that the NRC would keep you safe and the government would HAVE to take care of you if there was ever an accident. 

Oh well. Maybe it will never happen. If it does, then they just turn off the public EPA radiation monitors, then there IS no radiation, so there is no danger. Think I'm kidding? They're STILL turning off the EPA monitors today to hide radiation spikes from Fukushima. Don't worry: One banana dose max, maybe two.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 01:06 | 6232356 debunker
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No mention of Tokyo being awarded 2020 Olympics.  No chance of ANY truthful reporting coming out of Japan.

Also, MOX fuel (plutonium) used in melted core. 

Move on, nothing to see here. 

Hey look, a Kardashian...!

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 01:19 | 6232386 onmail
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Japanese are allies of Satan America 

And there is sufferring where Satan has presence.

Karma.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 01:21 | 6232391 Magooo
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Where are all the cancer cases?

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 02:04 | 6232450 GC
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these are the most ridiculous numbers I've ever seen related to Chernobyl.

the most serious study in the sector, the 2006 French cancer institut one (not particularly know to cover numbers about cancer) estimates 40.000 incidents of cancer related to Chernobyl incident (which won't necessarily mean people will due, they will get sick and possibly 60% will be cured)


Greenpeace (the most antinuclear NGO on the planet) routinely use a 100.000 figure, which would mean 40.000 likely deaths (likely less than the yearly death toll of coke plants fumes worldwide)

 

it would be nice if the joke of an author who came out with 1.000.000 dead and 7.000.000 to die would link the source for such numbers. Unless he is using total mortality of Ukraine and Belarus, for any cause including old age, over the last 40 years... with a combined population of 52 million, the number would make some sense.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 02:10 | 6232461 malek
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 Over one million (1,000,000) people have already died from Chernobyl’s fallout.

 After the Fukushima blow up, ambient levels of radiation in Washington State went up 40,000 times above normal

Two absolute bullshit claims.
On the second one, ask some folks running private geiger counters across the USA, such as http://radiationnetwork.com/

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 02:32 | 6232462 Yen Cross
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  IT's UGLY

 $usdx is going to sell off. The month end flows for GBP & EUR look bad for SWAPS agreements.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 02:59 | 6232497 Condor96
Thu, 06/25/2015 - 03:24 | 6232530 dreadnaught
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ive had some unusual skin problems for the past year...coincidence? I live in Seattle

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 04:02 | 6232564 Yen Cross
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 You're going to have a dry'16. Chilly, and dry.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 04:30 | 6232576 wisefool
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remember folks, the nuclear power industry could not exist without a war provisioning tax code. There is no profit for private sector firm to sell the energy, and there is no insurance company in the world that could underwrite the liabilities. Only the unlimited funds of taxes enforced by violence on generations of people could underwrite it.

On the otherhand, the 90% of federal employees who are patronage appointments don't have the brains to properly clean a toliet, much less design, build and maintain a coal plant, much less a nuclear one. Even with unlimited tax dollars.

Enter the MIC, the IRS, 80,000 pages of tax code, largely written by lobbyists and ruber stamped by congress critters who are all part of the super secret dennis hastert, jeff immelt and clinton's boys and girls club.

Time will tell if this is an ELE or just a another 50 square mile exclusion zone on planet earth. But like noam  chomsky says about 9/11. (sloppy paraphrase) It does not matter if the official story is true or not, the important thing to analyze is the systems that are fully in place, and beyond reporach, that could have accomplished whatever version that actually is the truth. So we can maybe stop them from doing it again.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 06:00 | 6232630 mantrid
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I don't know real state of Fukushima but this article looks like biased shit. it points to no verifiable information and is full of opinion. mostly of a decades-long biased Ph.D. on a personal war against nuclear power plants. it also provides some scaremorgering info on Chernobyl: "very large population of deathly sick and deformed children" turns out to be no different than anywhere else in the world. the article is certainly manipulative unfortunately. it's dissapointing because I hoped to read something informative on the topic :/

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 06:31 | 6232644 Bearwagon
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If anyone is interested in "Identification and assessment of containment and release strategies for BWR Mark I containment" : http://www.osti.gov/scitech/biblio/5070180
Nothing new, I know, but maybe someone can still gain insights ....

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 07:05 | 6232686 Infinite QE
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Another global zio disaster. Fukushima was running a covert mox plant for the israeli military. Had israeli security on site. Documented facts. The lack of willingness to call for international aid in solving this epic disaster was caused directly by the fear of having this exposed.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 08:12 | 6232830 Last of the Mid...
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 Ain't karma a bitch. Bombed the shit out of 'em at Nagasaki and now some 70 years later the California coast is constantly bathed in a warm soup of radioactive particles and will be for the nexgt 100 years or so at this rate. And by the way, you need to remove that confederate flat.  Tooo fucking funny.

 

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 09:17 | 6232997 Ghostdog
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"The work involved to deal with this accident will take tens of years, hundreds of years,” ,,,, Paul Krugman Boner alert!

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 09:21 | 6233008 Buster Cherry
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Why haven't the Galveston Jetties disappeard yet?

They've been in the same place for over a hundred years.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 09:28 | 6233027 large_wooden_badger
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Oooooooh no, there goes Tokyo, go go Godzilla

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 11:40 | 6233712 screw face
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......ZEROHEDGE #FUKUSHIMA

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 13:00 | 6234100 UrbanBard
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Hysteria.

None of the figures cited here are in Sieverts or REMs. This means we have no idea how dangerous the locations near Fukushima are to people. Reporting the extremes found in tiny samples collected by rain does not give us what the real dangers are. Our instruments are so sensitive that a false picture can be built. I see no real time maps of radiation. There must be thousands of readings in Sieverts being taken weekly.

None of the real world events have confirmed a crisis. Fukushima is nowhere near as dangerous as Chernobyl was. The restricted zone at Chernobyl has become Europe's largest wildlife preserve. The animals are taking over.

There were no heavy elements discharged  at Fukushima, only fission byproducts which will soon die off. The worst, now, is Cesium 137 which as a half life of 30 years. Most of the Cesium in the waters in the basement of the reactors have been removed, so they can be placed where they can't escape.

The remainder is Tritium which is a beta radiation emitter which can be stopped by a single sheet of paper. The Tritium discharged into the ocean is only a few times greater than what was normally discharged while Fukushima was running. Tritium has a half life of 12 years, so it is quickly decaying into long lived Helium 3.

If the radiation levels near Fukushima were that dangerous, we would be hearing reports that the abandoned cattle in the area have died off. They have not.

There are dangers at Fukushima, but the worst is panic.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 21:03 | 6235685 malek
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That's a load of bullshit too:

Fukushima is nowhere near as dangerous as Chernobyl was.
"Dangerous" includes the latent danger, with that the risk is much higher at Fukushima.

There were no heavy elements discharged at Fukushima
Ridiculous half-truth. There were no (or very little) heavy elements discharged into the atmosphere which is good as that is the most damaging way, but the discharge into ground, groundwater and ultimately ocean is nothing to joke about either.

Tritium which is a beta radiation emitter which can be stopped by a single sheet of paper.
Another half-truth, as you forgot to mention the requirement "if it's not inside your body already."

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