I don't know if it should be a black hand.... I think white is appropriate, it is all the Kneejerk over politically correct angry progressives that are doing this.
Walmart, Amazon, et al.
I have a novel concept.... How about we let the free market decide if people want confederate flags?! No, I think the government and the flash mob should make all product decisions from this point on .... No?
I have a novel concept.... How about we let the free market decide if people want confederate flags?! No, I think the government and the flash mob should make all product decisions from this point on .... No?
Lol, seriously give your head a shake, this is very obviously the 'free market' deciding. There's no ban that says private vendors can't sell the flag, the corps have come to their own conclusion on how this looks to their customers.
confederate flag being removed from .gov property is up to .gov and the people.
And intimidation by something far less than a majority has absolutely nothing to do with it. There is no public outcrie for this other than progressive talking (shouting) heads. The majority has been dragged to this, forced to comply with these idiots or be paraded on the evening news as a hater.
The "brown shirts" are the only market force now. They run economic as well as social markets.
Gotta say, this whole week has been great comic relief watching 'not racist but..' tools go batshit crazy over the confederate flag.
For amazon / wal mart etc., the question was pretty simple - did they want to associate their brands at this moment with a stupid kid who posted a bunch of photos of himself swinging around THE symbol of slavery/segregated southern US&A? Oh yeah, after the kid murdered a bunch of black people. Shockingly these corps decided that the $5 in annual sales are outweighed by the poor (global) public image!
It's a manufactured distraction from the connection of Roof to Saint Trayvon. He said that's what got him started (that along w/opiates and unemployment, imo).
"The "brown shirts" are the only market force now. They run economic as well as social markets."
+1 oldwood. But they don't run consumption, which is the funding that keeps them in overpaid jobs. You can't do much about what they want to ban, but you can boycott everything made my every company they advertise. Unless someone here wants to be kind and post a list, you will have to watch some of their drivel to find out which companies those are. In fact, we should probably keep a running list. Not like this blog doesn't get read by CEOs.
What about companies like Apple, who have removed a number of games from the App Store that had Confederate flags?
On that note, I went over to the App Store and typed n Gettysburg and just in the few seconds I scrolled through the apps, there were six of them that had the Confederate flag included in their icon. Apple's free to do whatever the hell they want; after all, it's their site. But if they're going to do something stupid, at least they could be consistently stupid and delete all the apps that refer to flag or to the Confeeracy.
But why stop there? They should deleted Ken Burns' documentary, the Civil War. It has Confederate flags in it. And what about all the games and movies about World War II that have swastikas or rising suns in them? Surely, those are just as offensive to the descendants of the 6 million Jews killed or the countless thousands (million?) killed by the Japanese in China and Southeast Asia.
And while we're at it, perhaps books displaying the Confederate flag or discussing the Civil War should all be burned. Hell, because some of the Founders and their ancestors owned slaves, I think we should just declare that all historical references to anything prior to the Voting Rights Act should be declared illegal to possess or view. Let's just go full out retard here folks.
I'm working on a new type of computer that will render ALL their shit obsolete overnight.
Don't expect that faggot Tim Cook to have what it takes to correctly respond to this threat. Looking forward to seeing him burn through that pile of cash trying, though.
the corp's BofD's are stacked with tribe members. It's an orchestrated effort to deflect from this;
"The event that truly awakened me was the Trayvon Martin case. I kept hearing and seeing his name, and eventually I decided to look him up. I read the Wikipedia article and right away I was unable to understand what the big deal was. It was obvious that Zimmerman was in the right." The tribe's race baiting has backfired so now they blame YT by whipping up some hysteria.
I have about 60-70 "enroll in Obamacare now!" signs collected from around town. Every time I see one go up, I take it down. Several of these have been repurposed as Confederate flags, and will be redeployed tonight.
If anyone really knew anything about civil war history they would know that particular design as shown was not the national flag of the CSA
MYTH - The Confederate Battle Flag represented the Southern Nation.
FACT - Not true. While the Southern Battle flag was carried into battle, the Southern Nation had 3 different National flags during the course of the war.
The Confederate Battle Flag was never a National Flag of the Confederacy. It was carried into battle by several armies such as the Army Of Northen Virginia and the Army of Tennessee. Was also used as a Naval Jack by the Confederate Navy.
The "government" has not been legitimate since Lincoln's War. When the southern States' contingent walked out of congress and congress adjourned "sine die" (without a day), congress officially dissolved. They never had a lawful quorum so never lawfully reconvened.
It was Lincoln ruling by decree back then which is the basis for all actions since. He ordered congress to do certain things under martial law (military rule). He even had the governor of New York arrested for opposing certain decrees.
We have had a corporation ACTING as government since 21 Feb 1871.
See:
28 U.S.C. 3002 (15)
(15)“United States” means—
(A) a Federal corporation;
(B) an agency, department, commission, board, or other entity of the United States; or
(C) an instrumentality of the United States.
So... B and C are subdivisions of the "Federal corporation." For further verification go to Dunn & Bradstreet (dnb.com) or manta.com. You will find that ALL government entities are listed as private corporations right down to your local police department and school district.
The "law" isn't what you think it is. It's all corporate regulations. Congress and legislatures are acting as the board of directors for the corporations and most don't have any idea. You are simply seen as a corporate asset (human resource) with an asset tag # (SS#) that is not allowed to tell your owner what to do.
The questions you should be asking are, "Who owns it?" "Who are they really working for whether they know it or not?" "What are the requirements to be a CEO of a corporation?"
Hint: You don't have to be a Citizen of any specific country to head up a corporation.
anyone who really studied the union before the civil war will NOT disagree.
HOWEVER, one will point out that unlike the EU-----the south and north actually had very much common culture including common language, common war against the british, and a common lack of thousands of years of divisive tribal european history .
southerners and northerners were almost ALL OF EUROPEAN DESCENT AND THE PRE-EXISTING UNION OF NEARLY 90 YEARS was a framework by which it was INEVITABLE THAT ANY ECONOMIC IMBALANCES WOULD EVENTUALLY PAN OUT IN CIVIL UNREST BETWEEN STATES .
the 'union' wasn't really about the 'federal' government. IT WAS ABOUT NORTHERN INDUSTRIAL CARTELS REFUSING TO ALLOW THE SOUTHERN AGRICULTURAL CARTELS TO DICTATE POLICY. i
IT WAS NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT VERSUS THE INVIDUAL STATES WHOSE RIGHTS WERE TRAMPLED UPON.
REALISTICALLY IT WAS THE NORTHERN STATES USED BY THE CARTELS TO MUSTER THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT INTO A POSITION TO DECLARE WAR AND FORCE NORTHERN STATES MANY OF WHICH DIDN'T EVEN WANT WAR.
JUST BECAUSE THE CIVIL WAS 100% NOT ABOUT SLAVERY DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE CIVIL WAR WAS NOT INEVITABLE.
TOO MANY REVISIONISTS CLAIM THE SOUTH COULD HAVE JUST PEACEFULLY LEFT IF THE NORTH WOULD HAVE LET IT BECAUSE THAT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO AND TEH LEGAL THING.
LAW IS BULLSHIT. AND IF THE SOUTH HAD SECEDED AS THE BRITISH HAD WANTED IT TO, THAN THE BRITISH WOULD HAVE USED THAT POWER TO INSTIGATE WAR ANYWAYS----------THEY DID SO BY FUNDING A SOUTHERN ARMY, AND THEY WOULD HAVE FUNDED SUCH AN ARMY EVENTUALLY ANYWAYS EVEN IF THE NORTH WOULD HAVE LET THE SOUTH LEAVE 'PEACEFULLY'.
THERE NEVER COULD HAVE BEEN PEACE BETWEEN 2 LARGE GOVERNMENTS IN TEH SAME LAND AREA WITH PEOPLE OF COMMON LANGUAGE AND CUSTOM. THE MERE EXISTENCE OF LARGE AMOUNTS OF BLACK SLAVES JUST WOULDN'T HAVE CHANGED THE REALISTIC TENDENCIES OF COUNTREIS TO GO TO WAR.
WHILE THE SOUTH WAS HONORABLE, ONE CANNOT REALSITICALLY SAY THAT WAR WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED ANYWAYS IF THE NORTH HAD JUST LET THE SOUTH SECEDE.
LOOK AT THE HIOSTRY OF EUROPE. WAS IS CONTINUOUS AND PART OF THE NATURAL COURSE OF POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC COMPEITITON. EVEN WITH NATIONS HAVING SEPARATE LANGUAGES, WHICH PROVIDE A NATURAL BUFFER AND BARRIER, WAR CONTINUES.
in tHE U.S. two massive pieces of land between teh north and south would have eventually gone to war. instead of a civili war youd' have called the north south war and one side would have won eventually and it was going to be the north anyways because the north had more money and more connections and more industrial factories and MORE of everything except the least useful thing during war---unskilled slave labor.
Thomas Jefferson owned slaves, are we tearing down the Jefferson Memorial?
The Confederate Flag wasn't about slavery, it was about the independence of states.
That was what this country was founded on, until Stinkin Lincoln decided it was the
Mafia and once you were in there was no way out. That MF was responcible for the death of over 1,000,000 Americans and caused 10s of millions of Americans to suffer for generations to come.
But the people that suffered the most were the slaves that he freed. They lived in horrible conditions for decades after because stupid Lincoln thought the Congress would vote him the funds to send them back to Africa and set up settlements there for them.
Let's have every ethinic group have their own flag. Plus the LGBT get their own flag. Not an LBGT flag, but Lesbians get one, Gays another, etc., etc. We'll have 150 different flags flying on any given day.
Change the USA into the United Flags of America. Let the SCOTUS write a new constitution. Oh, I forgot, they can't read. Maybe JPM and GE can write it.
That reminds me of budgets back in the days of the initial AIDS hysteria. Each subgroup had to have its own "educational" budget. So, for example, if you were a Pacific Islander, there was the AIDS budget for Pacific Islanders. Then there was a budget for gay Pacific Islanders, separate from the budget for all Pacific Islanders. Which led me to think that there should be a budget for Gay Pacific Islander albino pygmies.
Seriously, though, people comment that we're becming the Dis-United States of America. I'd argue that happened long ago. When it became fashionable for people to add their ancestry to their American status (e.g., African American, Italian American, Etc.), the handwriting was on the wall. I think that Russian guy a few years ago who predicted that the US would dissolve by 2014 was off by a few years, but I think that's eventually going to happen. We've reached a point in this country where different groups simply can't coexist with each other with reacting violently.
I personally am looking forward to killing me a few of those DailyKos types.
I just LOVE reading that web site from time to time, and seeing a bunch of smug, self-important asshats talk shit about me, my culture, and everything I know and believe in, and discuss ways they are planning to subjugate me further. LOVE it.
Actually, many of them will become the turncoat types, ready and willing to sell out to whomever they have to sell out to in order to keep their sorry asses alive. Every clan probably has at least one or two fuckwits in it, mine certainly not being any exception.
perfect. replace it with a picture of obama. Then, lets put bruce jenner, a kardashian, maybe nancy pelosi, and ben bernanake on all our money. It would be a much better reflection of present day america.
Several years ago, I received a CD, a sermon "The Truth About the Confederate Battle Flag". I truly enjoyed it. I saw an audio link, or a link to the text, if you don't want to listen to a Southern Preacher.
To be most accurate, history is written by the victories.
The victor wins where it matters, and doesn't care about losing where it does not matter.
All of these supposed "wins" in the media lately are superficial. Completely fabricated. Anyone can set up a contrived situation in the controlled environment of a movie studio or smoke filled room, and successfully execute that plan. But what effect does it have in the long term, big picture? When an actual battle is fought against the enemy face to face, what happens then? What will the effect be of certain words today, on actual battles fought tomorrow?
Nobody knows...or could possibly predict such a thing.
Doesn't stop Satan's minions from making their elaborate plans, however, as they join their predecessors in the same historical mistakes made throughout the eons, as they once again attempt to wield absolute power over a populace that is never actually as stupid as they're thought to be.
Our MSM tribals aren't acting, they are reacting. This means they are on the defensive this time. They are trying to distract from the fact that Roof killed in retaliation to the Saint Trayvon media deification. This reminds me of McVeigh's revenge for Waco, except we now know that the FBI aided and abetted him. Then, they made all white men the fall guy.
today you can still proudly wearing your CSA flag shirts. Torrow you can be called terrorists and sent to FEMA forced labor camps. Do it now when you still hace a chance. Nostalgia is a mutherfuckin agony.
I'd LOVE to see them try that in Alabama. So would about a million other armed to the teeth rednecks. They might be able to ban the flag in California and other such shitholes, but it's not happening here.
You mean darling Nikki Haley, the dumb ass SC soon to be ex governor that just ended her political career ? She should have called now former Georgia Governor and unemployed Roy Barnes how well it worked out for him when he fucked with the state flag of Georgia. Even Roy himself admits that changing the flag cost him the governorship.
Nice move darling Nikki, I hope sucking that leftist cock was worth it.
"I knew a girl named Nikki I guess u could say she was a sex fiend I met her in a hotel lobby Masturbating with a magazine She said how'd u like 2 waste some time And I could not resist when I saw little Nikki grind
She took me 2 her castle And I just couldn't believe my eyes She had so many devices Everything that money could buy She said sign your name on the dotted line The lights went out And Nikki started 2 grind
Nikki
The castle started spinning Or maybe it was my brain I can't tell u what she did 2 me But my body will never be the same Her lovin' will kick your behind Oh, she'll show u no mercy But she'll sho'nuff sho'nuff show u how 2 grind
Darlin' Nikki
Woke up the next morning Nikki wasn't there I looked all over and all I found Was a phone unmber on the stairs It said thank u 4 a funky time Call me up whenever u want 2 grind"
Cause Im as free as a bird now, And this bird youll never change. And this bird you can not change. Lord knows, I cant change. Lord help me, I cant change
Well said. I'm not American, but even I am dumbstruck by the level of herd-like stupidity being spewed from idiot politicians and walmarts/amazons/apples about this.
It's like in 1984 where Smith had to cut out the names, pictures, references to people that had been "vapourised". Its quite shocking. What's going to be next?
Well, if you were American, perhaps you would be aware of the history of truly ugly violence, not to mention slavery, that has been associated with the Confederate battle flag.
No one is saying youcan't fly it outside of your house if you want to be identified as a racist dumbass. Your choice. It is just a matter of individual states deciding they no longer want to thought of as backward and racist as a result of giving their imprimatur to a hated symbol of their past.
Well, dougie..... why don't you go and pee on all the graves of the confederate soldiers who DIED defending what they believed was their land.... that should make you "feel" better shouldn't it?
They were brave and stalwart... no different from any soldier wearing any color of uniform... the Confederate Crossed banner represents them and their sincerity. So.... go ahead and just go show them how BRAVE YOU ARE~!! Pee on their graves and don't leave out the officers either.
Bet you're glad you got that off your chest. Fact is, a relative of mine was a Confederate hero. Look up Gen Turner Ashby some time. Interesting character.
1. There is no doubt there were many fine and noble soldiers fighting for the south, just as there were many fine and noble soldiers fighting for Nazi Germany. The virtue of the soldiers does not negate what causes they were supporting, in this case treason and slavery.
2. There is also no doubt the battle flag was little known to most Americans until the 1960s when fine groups like the KKK and John Birch society resurrected it in response to the civil rights movement. Since that time it has been a blatant symbol of racism with a thin veneer of respecting the Confederacy as a historical touchstone. If that were the true reason they would have used the actual Confederate flag.
You are too stupid to live beyond the next 5 years.
I hope I personally get to be the one to end your pathetic life.
I will kill you, your family, your friends and acquaintances, bomb your entire fucking city into ash--whatever it takes to ensure there no longer remains any threat to me or my people. We will live out our days in dignity and peace. You will die slowly by the sword you drew against us.
Racism is such a handy little word used exactly as the word nigger always was. A way to belittle and demean another person with the utterance of a single word, to put them on the defensive and forcibly shut their fucking mouth. Just as you well point out, as of now, ANYONE who puts a confederate battle flag in their yard is a dumb ass RACIST. Judging by the color of their skin or flag. Admittedly we do have a choice about what flag we wave about, but for many, they really do not. Just as Homosexuals and transexuals claim, they are helpless to expressing their true inner self. For those who have respect for this flag, not based on slavery , but on its relevance to sovereignty, they have never felt more under attack than now. Not because of the flag but because of today's SCOTUS decision today, and virtually something every day preceding.
Exactly what flag, what symbol would you prefer is used to show rejection of this federal takeover of ALL sovereignty? Most cannot even criticize this president without being labeled a racist. Given the accusations are coming from Democrats with a very long history of racism, we can only assume that it is an attack specifically to shut the opposition's fucking mouth.
In a land of TOLERANCE trumpeted daily by these fucking assholes, it seems a bit obvious that they possess NONE AT ALL for any expressions that counter their interests if not specific beliefs, as there are no political affiliation with a greater history of RACISM than the Democratic party.
Southern states are being inundated by broke, stupid, unemployed Yankees who were taught from birth that Southerners were 'evil' folks who threw n*gg*rs on raging fires like so much cord wood just for kicks. The Yankees hate us, they hate being here and still won't go back!!! Some go on down to FLA, just so they can be close to Mickey and Goofy, their only childhood friends. NC voted for BHO in 2008. Jesse Helms home state!
Doesn't bother me too much, same as the immigration. Even the saltiest old immigrants have not been here long enough to lay claim to any of the most strategic and quality lands. All that is still owned by the old white people, except down in the black belts where it's majority black; who are just as equal to the white folks, in my experience, especially in terms of survival during hard times. When it comes to the newcomers, the wheat will sort out from the chaff in time. The valued ones will be kept, the assholes and traitors driven out or killed off, and the good ones will go on to be successful people in our society. I don't mind if we learn a few things from them and change (improve) ourselves too. Our society will be even stronger for it in the future.
"It's like in 1984 where Smith had to cut out the names, pictures, references to people that had been "vapourised". Its quite shocking. What's going to be next?"
" In that spirit, we must always remember, we must never forget, we must put in the dock and hang higher than Haman, those who, in modern times, opened the Pandora's Box of genocide and the extermination of civilians: Sherman, Grant, and Lincoln. Perhaps, some day, their statues, like Lenin's in Russia, will be toppled and melted down; their insignias and battle flags will be desecrated, their war songs tossed into the fire. And then Davis and Lee and Jackson and Forrest, and all the heroes of the South, "Dixie" and the Stars and Bars, will once again be truly honored and remembered." -- Rothbard
So we have become Japan and are now censoring our text books. Great way to learn from the past just erase the bits you don't like. And one more thing as Columbo would say... Really a flag is causing this insanity really. How full of $hit do you have to be to believe this garbage.
They want all of those confederate flags and civil war memorials removed because they want to fight that war again. And IMHO that is exactly where we're headed.
Unfortunately, "We the People" can do nothing about anything anymore. "We the People" were asleep at the wheel while they took our very own tax money and instead of using it to build bridges, fix dams, maintain seaways, rivers and highways, took it to build new spy agencies and an anti "American People" Police and Military.
All this while we were watching foozball, nascar and ozzy.
Sojourner Truth
Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:00 pm http://wbai.org/server-archive.html
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there is no capitalism without slavery,
period. ....
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"i leave symbols to the symbol minded." g.c.
he was a smarter dude than i will ever be.
. yet,
it is curious to see, in the wake of contemporary
mental illness and its many offspring, so many
obsessing over the confederate flag. as has been
said "you would not expect a/the jew/s to tolerate
the flying of the nazi flag, you would not." or like
that.
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likewise, you would not expect an african-american, hyphen
added, to tolerate the confederate flag flying over a house
that collects their taxes or administers justice over
the population of which they are a member, you would not.
.
question, why would you expect either group to tolerate
the stars and stripes flying over the houses that collect,
demand, payment of taxes, administer justice and write
legislation that codifies the essential yoke that modifies
and proscribes legal and illegal behavior, potentially resulting
in penalties up to and including legal homicide for the
recalcitrants? (the people), why?
.
the only argument i have heard is that the "union" aspect
of the civil war amended their slaving ways so the stars
and stripes no longer offend the conscience of the non
protestant, non white "minorities". what needs looking into
is all of this and the presumptions and assumptions that
don't stand up to observation, historic or contemporary records
nor economic/trade/financial consideration. as slavery, via
"debt money", replaced outright and crude chattel slavery starting
in the mid 19th century and that is the hidden truth of the matter
that must be addressed, understood and resolved before stupidity
destroys everything. maybe a discussion for a future date?
imho.
The Band - The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jREUrbGGrgM
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the confederate flag as resistance to the "union", as
resistance to the european money power, the central bank.
what was the cause of the "civil war"? there an odd
stream of verbal piss, "civil war"; good luck with
the most eloquent english language as a means of communication,
there is always semaphore or machine language? that is in
the form of a question for us all. why do we label obvious
mental illness as some political or patriotic inclination,
flag dependent and denominated?
perhaps it has to with the state of "mind" of the contemporary
man as depicted here. ....
"The great biologist E.O. Wilson once observed:
“The real problem of humanity is the following: we have paleolithic emotions; medieval institutions; and god-like technology. And it is terrifically dangerous, and it is now approaching a point of crisis overall.”" http://www.sovereignman.com/investing/an-american-biologist-sums-up-fina...
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An American Biologist Sums Up Financial Markets Perfectly http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-22/american-biologist-sums-financi...
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mental illness takes many forms,
some are upheld as heroic if resulting
in some outcome that promotes or supports
the aims and goal of the ruling elite
or status quo, then again, some
are condemned as diseased or evil.
think mcain and his nazi bros.. the saudi
kingdom and the isis freak show, the golden
gimmick, or the "paper clip" shit show and many more ...
.
"good luck", i say.
steve Earle - Sometimes She Forgets https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hn4rx644sc
let us see how that dissolves.
The Confederate Flag is racist and always was racist. Removing racist symbols from the government buildings and lawns; corporations choosing not to be associated with racist symbols; these have nothing to do with erasing history. Does the state have to have monuments to every horrible thing the state did, because if it doesn't, it will be accused of erasing history? Grow up. Why is ZH spending so much time on the falling out of favor of this racist flag? Can't you find something more useful to report on or will defending racism be your contribution to improving the world this week?
I've been wondering what they were going to use to take the TPP off the sheeps minds.
Obama: We have to get this TPP passing off the news, I want something to take ALL the oxygen out of the news channels. ALL media 24/7.
What do we have?
Lacky: well we can take the nutjob shootin and amplify it / morph it into a Confederate Flag debate. It will divide the people perfectly.
They will be so busy arguing between themselves they will forget What TPP even was(If they even knew).
Obama: I love it. Run with it. I will clear any road blocks. I'll get someone to call Walmart, EBay, and the rest and have them throw their weight behind it. I want this on CNNCNBCFAUX and the rest starting tonight. Now get out of here and make it happen. I have T-time in a half hour with some other Corp. heads, I'll brief them on the back 9.
I am personally going to do a tattoo portrait of Ru Paul on your white ass. Then I'm going to make you my bitch while Ru applauds my consumation of your bitchhood. So, relax. You'll love it.
"We have now 200,000 of our men well drilled in arms and used to War fare and I tell you it is with you and them that slavery shall not come back again, if you are determined it will not return again." --- black soldier Martin Delany's speech to ex-slaves --- July 1865
I don't think you get it. I don't own a confederate flag. I don't support any form of oppression. This includes the oppression we're seeing about this flag. I'm not a fan of the NAZIs either, but I don't support their oppression.
Tolerance isn't limited to people who think like you, that's the opposite of tolerance.
Has W. Virginia expunged all of its Robert K. Byrd named sites yet? He was a Grand Kleagle, aka head of recruitment for the KKK.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_places_named_after_Robert_Byrd
There has not been so much stupid in one week in all my life that I can remember! Now dyed fabric causes murders!
What will be the next thing that they turn their hatred toward? Because they can never be satisfied
I love this guy !
http://fredoneverything.org/are-white-men-gods-ii-getting-the-facts-stra...
BTW, the hand holding the eraser should be black.
He's right. Black hands matter!
I am old enough to loath that damn southern rag.
I am old enough to make war against you.
I didn't junk you BTW, let me clear that up.
I don't know if it should be a black hand.... I think white is appropriate, it is all the Kneejerk over politically correct angry progressives that are doing this.
Walmart, Amazon, et al.
I have a novel concept.... How about we let the free market decide if people want confederate flags?! No, I think the government and the flash mob should make all product decisions from this point on .... No?
I have a novel concept.... How about we let the free market decide if people want confederate flags?! No, I think the government and the flash mob should make all product decisions from this point on .... No?
Lol, seriously give your head a shake, this is very obviously the 'free market' deciding. There's no ban that says private vendors can't sell the flag, the corps have come to their own conclusion on how this looks to their customers.
confederate flag being removed from .gov property is up to .gov and the people.
the south lost, get over it bitchez
And intimidation by something far less than a majority has absolutely nothing to do with it. There is no public outcrie for this other than progressive talking (shouting) heads. The majority has been dragged to this, forced to comply with these idiots or be paraded on the evening news as a hater.
The "brown shirts" are the only market force now. They run economic as well as social markets.
Gotta say, this whole week has been great comic relief watching 'not racist but..' tools go batshit crazy over the confederate flag.
For amazon / wal mart etc., the question was pretty simple - did they want to associate their brands at this moment with a stupid kid who posted a bunch of photos of himself swinging around THE symbol of slavery/segregated southern US&A? Oh yeah, after the kid murdered a bunch of black people. Shockingly these corps decided that the $5 in annual sales are outweighed by the poor (global) public image!
And Confederate Flag sales go through the roof. Once again, the sheeple are played like a violin.
Note the absence of uproar over the fact that yet another incident seems to be triggered by psychotropic medication.
Every crisis,be it real or contrived, is to be used to serve a purpose. The tragedy of this is not to be mourned and lamented but USED.
It's a manufactured distraction from the connection of Roof to Saint Trayvon. He said that's what got him started (that along w/opiates and unemployment, imo).
"The "brown shirts" are the only market force now. They run economic as well as social markets."
+1 oldwood. But they don't run consumption, which is the funding that keeps them in overpaid jobs. You can't do much about what they want to ban, but you can boycott everything made my every company they advertise. Unless someone here wants to be kind and post a list, you will have to watch some of their drivel to find out which companies those are. In fact, we should probably keep a running list. Not like this blog doesn't get read by CEOs.
Still waiting on the names, addresses, and telephone numbers of the "psychiatrists" who were "treating" these various drugged up mass murderers.
James Cole:
What about companies like Apple, who have removed a number of games from the App Store that had Confederate flags?
On that note, I went over to the App Store and typed n Gettysburg and just in the few seconds I scrolled through the apps, there were six of them that had the Confederate flag included in their icon. Apple's free to do whatever the hell they want; after all, it's their site. But if they're going to do something stupid, at least they could be consistently stupid and delete all the apps that refer to flag or to the Confeeracy.
But why stop there? They should deleted Ken Burns' documentary, the Civil War. It has Confederate flags in it. And what about all the games and movies about World War II that have swastikas or rising suns in them? Surely, those are just as offensive to the descendants of the 6 million Jews killed or the countless thousands (million?) killed by the Japanese in China and Southeast Asia.
And while we're at it, perhaps books displaying the Confederate flag or discussing the Civil War should all be burned. Hell, because some of the Founders and their ancestors owned slaves, I think we should just declare that all historical references to anything prior to the Voting Rights Act should be declared illegal to possess or view. Let's just go full out retard here folks.
Don't worry about Apple.
I'm working on a new type of computer that will render ALL their shit obsolete overnight.
Don't expect that faggot Tim Cook to have what it takes to correctly respond to this threat. Looking forward to seeing him burn through that pile of cash trying, though.
What about companies like Apple, who have removed a number of games from the App Store that had Confederate flags?
Apples response was idiotic, yes.
With the US that has emerged, I really think the world lost.
the corp's BofD's are stacked with tribe members. It's an orchestrated effort to deflect from this;
"The event that truly awakened me was the Trayvon Martin case. I kept hearing and seeing his name, and eventually I decided to look him up. I read the Wikipedia article and right away I was unable to understand what the big deal was. It was obvious that Zimmerman was in the right." The tribe's race baiting has backfired so now they blame YT by whipping up some hysteria.Erase
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0b1, Put it on a T-Shirt (w/pocket) and I'll buy 10.
Fucking t-shirts from China aren't even made out of cotton anymore.
I have about 60-70 "enroll in Obamacare now!" signs collected from around town. Every time I see one go up, I take it down. Several of these have been repurposed as Confederate flags, and will be redeployed tonight.
Yet I'm expected to PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE to a flag (with GOLD FRINGES on it, which denote 'Admirality Law') & which has its basis in accordance with the Act of 1871
Fuck that nonsense!
The pledge will remain but the flag will be replaced with something more appropriate like a new more inclusive symbol.
If anyone really knew anything about civil war history they would know that particular design as shown was not the national flag of the CSA
MYTH - The Confederate Battle Flag represented the Southern Nation.
FACT - Not true. While the Southern Battle flag was carried into battle, the Southern Nation had 3 different National flags during the course of the war.
The First National flag was changed due to a resemblance of the US flag.
The Second National flag was subsequently modified due to the similarity to a flag of truce.
The Third National flag was the adopted flag of the Confederacy.
The Confederate Battle Flag was never a National Flag of the Confederacy. It was carried into battle by several armies such as the Army Of Northen Virginia and the Army of Tennessee. Was also used as a Naval Jack by the Confederate Navy.
The "government" has not been legitimate since Lincoln's War. When the southern States' contingent walked out of congress and congress adjourned "sine die" (without a day), congress officially dissolved. They never had a lawful quorum so never lawfully reconvened.
It was Lincoln ruling by decree back then which is the basis for all actions since. He ordered congress to do certain things under martial law (military rule). He even had the governor of New York arrested for opposing certain decrees.
We have had a corporation ACTING as government since 21 Feb 1871.
See:
28 U.S.C. 3002 (15)
(15)“United States” means—
(A) a Federal corporation;
(B) an agency, department, commission, board, or other entity of the United States; or
(C) an instrumentality of the United States.
So... B and C are subdivisions of the "Federal corporation." For further verification go to Dunn & Bradstreet (dnb.com) or manta.com. You will find that ALL government entities are listed as private corporations right down to your local police department and school district.
The "law" isn't what you think it is. It's all corporate regulations. Congress and legislatures are acting as the board of directors for the corporations and most don't have any idea. You are simply seen as a corporate asset (human resource) with an asset tag # (SS#) that is not allowed to tell your owner what to do.
The questions you should be asking are, "Who owns it?" "Who are they really working for whether they know it or not?" "What are the requirements to be a CEO of a corporation?"
Hint: You don't have to be a Citizen of any specific country to head up a corporation.
It's kinda what I tried to say above. Thanks for making it clear Chupa :-)
Yes CHupa
We are ALL 14th amendment slaves now
anyone who really studied the union before the civil war will NOT disagree.
HOWEVER, one will point out that unlike the EU-----the south and north actually had very much common culture including common language, common war against the british, and a common lack of thousands of years of divisive tribal european history .
southerners and northerners were almost ALL OF EUROPEAN DESCENT AND THE PRE-EXISTING UNION OF NEARLY 90 YEARS was a framework by which it was INEVITABLE THAT ANY ECONOMIC IMBALANCES WOULD EVENTUALLY PAN OUT IN CIVIL UNREST BETWEEN STATES .
the 'union' wasn't really about the 'federal' government. IT WAS ABOUT NORTHERN INDUSTRIAL CARTELS REFUSING TO ALLOW THE SOUTHERN AGRICULTURAL CARTELS TO DICTATE POLICY. i
IT WAS NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT VERSUS THE INVIDUAL STATES WHOSE RIGHTS WERE TRAMPLED UPON.
REALISTICALLY IT WAS THE NORTHERN STATES USED BY THE CARTELS TO MUSTER THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT INTO A POSITION TO DECLARE WAR AND FORCE NORTHERN STATES MANY OF WHICH DIDN'T EVEN WANT WAR.
JUST BECAUSE THE CIVIL WAS 100% NOT ABOUT SLAVERY DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE CIVIL WAR WAS NOT INEVITABLE.
TOO MANY REVISIONISTS CLAIM THE SOUTH COULD HAVE JUST PEACEFULLY LEFT IF THE NORTH WOULD HAVE LET IT BECAUSE THAT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO AND TEH LEGAL THING.
LAW IS BULLSHIT. AND IF THE SOUTH HAD SECEDED AS THE BRITISH HAD WANTED IT TO, THAN THE BRITISH WOULD HAVE USED THAT POWER TO INSTIGATE WAR ANYWAYS----------THEY DID SO BY FUNDING A SOUTHERN ARMY, AND THEY WOULD HAVE FUNDED SUCH AN ARMY EVENTUALLY ANYWAYS EVEN IF THE NORTH WOULD HAVE LET THE SOUTH LEAVE 'PEACEFULLY'.
THERE NEVER COULD HAVE BEEN PEACE BETWEEN 2 LARGE GOVERNMENTS IN TEH SAME LAND AREA WITH PEOPLE OF COMMON LANGUAGE AND CUSTOM. THE MERE EXISTENCE OF LARGE AMOUNTS OF BLACK SLAVES JUST WOULDN'T HAVE CHANGED THE REALISTIC TENDENCIES OF COUNTREIS TO GO TO WAR.
WHILE THE SOUTH WAS HONORABLE, ONE CANNOT REALSITICALLY SAY THAT WAR WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED ANYWAYS IF THE NORTH HAD JUST LET THE SOUTH SECEDE.
LOOK AT THE HIOSTRY OF EUROPE. WAS IS CONTINUOUS AND PART OF THE NATURAL COURSE OF POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC COMPEITITON. EVEN WITH NATIONS HAVING SEPARATE LANGUAGES, WHICH PROVIDE A NATURAL BUFFER AND BARRIER, WAR CONTINUES.
in tHE U.S. two massive pieces of land between teh north and south would have eventually gone to war. instead of a civili war youd' have called the north south war and one side would have won eventually and it was going to be the north anyways because the north had more money and more connections and more industrial factories and MORE of everything except the least useful thing during war---unskilled slave labor.
Yea, the UN flag.
this
Thomas Jefferson owned slaves, are we tearing down the Jefferson Memorial?
The Confederate Flag wasn't about slavery, it was about the independence of states.
That was what this country was founded on, until Stinkin Lincoln decided it was the
Mafia and once you were in there was no way out. That MF was responcible for the death of over 1,000,000 Americans and caused 10s of millions of Americans to suffer for generations to come.
But the people that suffered the most were the slaves that he freed. They lived in horrible conditions for decades after because stupid Lincoln thought the Congress would vote him the funds to send them back to Africa and set up settlements there for them.
The jew carpetbaggers sure made out well though. Imagine that?
This underscores the old adage(s) that.
1. all wars are bankers wars
2. wars are never fully understood until one does the final accounting of whom profited from it.
You got that right Steaksmith...and the JCBs will make out well when this house of cards falls.
You got that right Steaksmith...and the JCBs will make out well when this house of cards falls.
It was as much a Christian (religious) battle.
so who, exactly, were the 'Christians' fighting?
The "Christians" said no to slavery.
Let's have every ethinic group have their own flag. Plus the LGBT get their own flag. Not an LBGT flag, but Lesbians get one, Gays another, etc., etc. We'll have 150 different flags flying on any given day.
Change the USA into the United Flags of America. Let the SCOTUS write a new constitution. Oh, I forgot, they can't read. Maybe JPM and GE can write it.
That reminds me of budgets back in the days of the initial AIDS hysteria. Each subgroup had to have its own "educational" budget. So, for example, if you were a Pacific Islander, there was the AIDS budget for Pacific Islanders. Then there was a budget for gay Pacific Islanders, separate from the budget for all Pacific Islanders. Which led me to think that there should be a budget for Gay Pacific Islander albino pygmies.
Seriously, though, people comment that we're becming the Dis-United States of America. I'd argue that happened long ago. When it became fashionable for people to add their ancestry to their American status (e.g., African American, Italian American, Etc.), the handwriting was on the wall. I think that Russian guy a few years ago who predicted that the US would dissolve by 2014 was off by a few years, but I think that's eventually going to happen. We've reached a point in this country where different groups simply can't coexist with each other with reacting violently.
I personally am looking forward to killing me a few of those DailyKos types.
I just LOVE reading that web site from time to time, and seeing a bunch of smug, self-important asshats talk shit about me, my culture, and everything I know and believe in, and discuss ways they are planning to subjugate me further. LOVE it.
You don't have to kill them. When the dollar tanks, they will starve to death.
Actually, many of them will become the turncoat types, ready and willing to sell out to whomever they have to sell out to in order to keep their sorry asses alive. Every clan probably has at least one or two fuckwits in it, mine certainly not being any exception.
@ Dixie Flatline:
Let's not forget about Albert Pike.
perfect. replace it with a picture of obama. Then, lets put bruce jenner, a kardashian, maybe nancy pelosi, and ben bernanake on all our money. It would be a much better reflection of present day america.
They're working on it... They just need an OBAMA approved image to add...
http://travelsofadam.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/rainbow-israel-flag.jpg
History is written by the victors......or is that the "victorias" ?
… history is written by the Victrolas.
HIS story
Several years ago, I received a CD, a sermon "The Truth About the Confederate Battle Flag".
I truly enjoyed it. I saw an audio link, or a link to the text, if you don't want to listen to a Southern Preacher.
PoliticalPoet.com - Inspiring Freedom - Truth About The Confederate Battle Flag
Text above.
Audio below.
The Truth About the Confederate Battle Flag | SermonAudio.com
American history - from Confederacy to Confederasty.
To be most accurate, history is written by the victories.
The victor wins where it matters, and doesn't care about losing where it does not matter.
All of these supposed "wins" in the media lately are superficial. Completely fabricated. Anyone can set up a contrived situation in the controlled environment of a movie studio or smoke filled room, and successfully execute that plan. But what effect does it have in the long term, big picture? When an actual battle is fought against the enemy face to face, what happens then? What will the effect be of certain words today, on actual battles fought tomorrow?
Nobody knows...or could possibly predict such a thing.
Doesn't stop Satan's minions from making their elaborate plans, however, as they join their predecessors in the same historical mistakes made throughout the eons, as they once again attempt to wield absolute power over a populace that is never actually as stupid as they're thought to be.
I am ashamed for this country. The lies and distortions go way back. I need to go back and review all I think I know about America.
You need to go bLack... There, fixed it.
I'm sick and tired of this nonsense.
I will buy a Confederate flag just to make sure. I will not be pushed by morons.
If you had done a poll a year ago and asked the acerage person what that flag represented what would most people have said?
Likewise US flag used to mean one thing 50 years ago but a global poll today might show a different response.
Wasn't a historical cultural expiulsion in China called The Great Leap Forward...or something?
Close;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Revolution
A purge by another name.
Our MSM tribals aren't acting, they are reacting. This means they are on the defensive this time. They are trying to distract from the fact that Roof killed in retaliation to the Saint Trayvon media deification. This reminds me of McVeigh's revenge for Waco, except we now know that the FBI aided and abetted him. Then, they made all white men the fall guy.
today you can still proudly wearing your CSA flag shirts. Torrow you can be called terrorists and sent to FEMA forced labor camps. Do it now when you still hace a chance. Nostalgia is a mutherfuckin agony.
US govt - terrorizing its citizens via IRS, TSA, etc - the real terrorists
I'd LOVE to see them try that in Alabama. So would about a million other armed to the teeth rednecks. They might be able to ban the flag in California and other such shitholes, but it's not happening here.
can I still listen to my Skynyrd bootleg from 1975, or is that racist now...?
Watergate does not bother me... Does your conscience bother you... Tell me true...
I hope Nikki Haley will remember, a southern man don't need her around anyhow.
(She's the SC Governor)
You mean darling Nikki Haley, the dumb ass SC soon to be ex governor that just ended her political career ? She should have called now former Georgia Governor and unemployed Roy Barnes how well it worked out for him when he fucked with the state flag of Georgia. Even Roy himself admits that changing the flag cost him the governorship.
Nice move darling Nikki, I hope sucking that leftist cock was worth it.
"I knew a girl named Nikki
I guess u could say she was a sex fiend
I met her in a hotel lobby
Masturbating with a magazine
She said how'd u like 2 waste some time
And I could not resist when I saw little Nikki grind
She took me 2 her castle
And I just couldn't believe my eyes
She had so many devices
Everything that money could buy
She said sign your name on the dotted line
The lights went out
And Nikki started 2 grind
Nikki
The castle started spinning
Or maybe it was my brain
I can't tell u what she did 2 me
But my body will never be the same
Her lovin' will kick your behind
Oh, she'll show u no mercy
But she'll sho'nuff sho'nuff show u how 2 grind
Darlin' Nikki
Woke up the next morning
Nikki wasn't there
I looked all over and all I found
Was a phone unmber on the stairs
It said thank u 4 a funky time
Call me up whenever u want 2 grind"
~PRN (Darling Nikki)
Nice catch Steak, that was exactly what I was referring to !
I wish I coulda linked the video... But Prince is an @sshole with distribution rights...
Nice move darling Nikki, I hope sucking that leftist cock was worth it.
She would've never been gov. w/o being born w/o one. Being part Indian and brown (the new white), like Jindal, 'hepped' too.That is seditious music and will be banned by the PC police soon.
"can I still listen to my Skynyrd bootleg from 1975, or is that racist now...?"
Fuck your "Skynyrd", listen to this instead - and yes "black hands" do matter:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkUBU8f8T8s
And your girlfriend will thank you for it as well - even if the 'cabin' of your old Ford truck is a little too small for your big ideas...
Nice
Cause Im as free as a bird now,
And this bird youll never change.
And this bird you can not change.
Lord knows, I cant change.
Lord help me, I cant change
(Famous guitar solo)
The death of common sense has been the single largest disaster ever to hit this country.
Well said. I'm not American, but even I am dumbstruck by the level of herd-like stupidity being spewed from idiot politicians and walmarts/amazons/apples about this.
It's like in 1984 where Smith had to cut out the names, pictures, references to people that had been "vapourised". Its quite shocking. What's going to be next?
Well, if you were American, perhaps you would be aware of the history of truly ugly violence, not to mention slavery, that has been associated with the Confederate battle flag.
No one is saying youcan't fly it outside of your house if you want to be identified as a racist dumbass. Your choice. It is just a matter of individual states deciding they no longer want to thought of as backward and racist as a result of giving their imprimatur to a hated symbol of their past.
Well, dougie..... why don't you go and pee on all the graves of the confederate soldiers who DIED defending what they believed was their land.... that should make you "feel" better shouldn't it?
They were brave and stalwart... no different from any soldier wearing any color of uniform... the Confederate Crossed banner represents them and their sincerity. So.... go ahead and just go show them how BRAVE YOU ARE~!! Pee on their graves and don't leave out the officers either.
Bet you're glad you got that off your chest. Fact is, a relative of mine was a Confederate hero. Look up Gen Turner Ashby some time. Interesting character.
1. There is no doubt there were many fine and noble soldiers fighting for the south, just as there were many fine and noble soldiers fighting for Nazi Germany. The virtue of the soldiers does not negate what causes they were supporting, in this case treason and slavery.
2. There is also no doubt the battle flag was little known to most Americans until the 1960s when fine groups like the KKK and John Birch society resurrected it in response to the civil rights movement. Since that time it has been a blatant symbol of racism with a thin veneer of respecting the Confederacy as a historical touchstone. If that were the true reason they would have used the actual Confederate flag.
You are too stupid to live beyond the next 5 years.
I hope I personally get to be the one to end your pathetic life.
I will kill you, your family, your friends and acquaintances, bomb your entire fucking city into ash--whatever it takes to ensure there no longer remains any threat to me or my people. We will live out our days in dignity and peace. You will die slowly by the sword you drew against us.
How does that change your calculus, faggot?
Oh, I see. A downvote. That's all you got, pussy?
Racism is such a handy little word used exactly as the word nigger always was. A way to belittle and demean another person with the utterance of a single word, to put them on the defensive and forcibly shut their fucking mouth. Just as you well point out, as of now, ANYONE who puts a confederate battle flag in their yard is a dumb ass RACIST. Judging by the color of their skin or flag. Admittedly we do have a choice about what flag we wave about, but for many, they really do not. Just as Homosexuals and transexuals claim, they are helpless to expressing their true inner self. For those who have respect for this flag, not based on slavery , but on its relevance to sovereignty, they have never felt more under attack than now. Not because of the flag but because of today's SCOTUS decision today, and virtually something every day preceding.
Exactly what flag, what symbol would you prefer is used to show rejection of this federal takeover of ALL sovereignty? Most cannot even criticize this president without being labeled a racist. Given the accusations are coming from Democrats with a very long history of racism, we can only assume that it is an attack specifically to shut the opposition's fucking mouth.
In a land of TOLERANCE trumpeted daily by these fucking assholes, it seems a bit obvious that they possess NONE AT ALL for any expressions that counter their interests if not specific beliefs, as there are no political affiliation with a greater history of RACISM than the Democratic party.
"No one is saying youcan't fly it outside of your house if you want to be identified as a racist dumbass."
In Alabama, nobody who flies the Confederate flag outside their house is considered a racist.
You God damned imbecile.
Southern states are being inundated by broke, stupid, unemployed Yankees who were taught from birth that Southerners were 'evil' folks who threw n*gg*rs on raging fires like so much cord wood just for kicks. The Yankees hate us, they hate being here and still won't go back!!! Some go on down to FLA, just so they can be close to Mickey and Goofy, their only childhood friends. NC voted for BHO in 2008. Jesse Helms home state!
Doesn't bother me too much, same as the immigration. Even the saltiest old immigrants have not been here long enough to lay claim to any of the most strategic and quality lands. All that is still owned by the old white people, except down in the black belts where it's majority black; who are just as equal to the white folks, in my experience, especially in terms of survival during hard times. When it comes to the newcomers, the wheat will sort out from the chaff in time. The valued ones will be kept, the assholes and traitors driven out or killed off, and the good ones will go on to be successful people in our society. I don't mind if we learn a few things from them and change (improve) ourselves too. Our society will be even stronger for it in the future.
"It's like in 1984 where Smith had to cut out the names, pictures, references to people that had been "vapourised". Its quite shocking. What's going to be next?"
Vapourization
Common sense is not so common.
Voltaire
It's so much easier to just be nice...but evryone chooses to be angry. What a shame.
Contrariologist,
Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think you've seen anger yet...
Look up - those are Buzzards circling
"Who controls the past controls the future.
Who controls the present controls the past"
-George Orwell
i thought that was the angry dude from Rage against the machine, guess he borrowed
Obama, the affirmatively educated, should rewrite history, which he is unable to comprehend?
Jeezus! If I wanted to get rid of a flag that has flown over enormous evil, I would start with the stars and stripes.
" In that spirit, we must always remember, we must never forget, we must put in the dock and hang higher than Haman, those who, in modern times, opened the Pandora's Box of genocide and the extermination of civilians: Sherman, Grant, and Lincoln. Perhaps, some day, their statues, like Lenin's in Russia, will be toppled and melted down; their insignias and battle flags will be desecrated, their war songs tossed into the fire. And then Davis and Lee and Jackson and Forrest, and all the heroes of the South, "Dixie" and the Stars and Bars, will once again be truly honored and remembered." -- Rothbard
"What is history but a fable agreed upon..."
-NB
We are living in the results of decisions made long ago.
“Well, Doctor, what have we got—a Republic or a Monarchy?”
“A Republic, if you can keep it.”
We all know the outcome of that ditty.
A Country that stands by as there history is erased, no longer has a past or a future.
So we have become Japan and are now censoring our text books. Great way to learn from the past just erase the bits you don't like. And one more thing as Columbo would say... Really a flag is causing this insanity really. How full of $hit do you have to be to believe this garbage.
Just sayin.
gotta run and grab dinner, there's some good Nazi stuff on the Hitlery Channel tonight (again) - starting at 8pm sharp
This is about erasing history.
If you don't learn from history........
Bad idea, IMHO.
Given slavery was so important to the formation of the British Empire, maybe the Unoin Flag should be banned to....
If you look at quotes from good old Abe, you will soon see that the whole slavery thing was not exclusively a thing of the South.
There were black slave owners and white slaves.
Political theatre - another distraction for the masses.
We are catching up with the old Soviet Union.
Soviets erasing people...
Remember when only the "Bad Guys" were doing it?
Well the "Bad Guys" are still doing it.
They are now doing it in broad daylight with everybody watching.
They want all of those confederate flags and civil war memorials removed because they want to fight that war again. And IMHO that is exactly where we're headed.
If they were intelligent, they'd be careful what they wish for. But they're not.
You can only break so many crosses off war memorials and tear down so many Confederate flags before the bullets fly.
Unfortunately, "We the People" can do nothing about anything anymore. "We the People" were asleep at the wheel while they took our very own tax money and instead of using it to build bridges, fix dams, maintain seaways, rivers and highways, took it to build new spy agencies and an anti "American People" Police and Military.
All this while we were watching foozball, nascar and ozzy.
Kind of ironic.
We never lost. We are just regrouping. Next time it will be necessary to burn the WH to get rid of the stank of the wookie!
sarc/ on
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Sojourner Truth
Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:00 pm
http://wbai.org/server-archive.html
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there is no capitalism without slavery,
period. ....
.
"i leave symbols to the symbol minded." g.c.
he was a smarter dude than i will ever be.
. yet,
it is curious to see, in the wake of contemporary
mental illness and its many offspring, so many
obsessing over the confederate flag. as has been
said "you would not expect a/the jew/s to tolerate
the flying of the nazi flag, you would not." or like
that.
.
likewise, you would not expect an african-american, hyphen
added, to tolerate the confederate flag flying over a house
that collects their taxes or administers justice over
the population of which they are a member, you would not.
.
question, why would you expect either group to tolerate
the stars and stripes flying over the houses that collect,
demand, payment of taxes, administer justice and write
legislation that codifies the essential yoke that modifies
and proscribes legal and illegal behavior, potentially resulting
in penalties up to and including legal homicide for the
recalcitrants? (the people), why?
.
the only argument i have heard is that the "union" aspect
of the civil war amended their slaving ways so the stars
and stripes no longer offend the conscience of the non
protestant, non white "minorities". what needs looking into
is all of this and the presumptions and assumptions that
don't stand up to observation, historic or contemporary records
nor economic/trade/financial consideration. as slavery, via
"debt money", replaced outright and crude chattel slavery starting
in the mid 19th century and that is the hidden truth of the matter
that must be addressed, understood and resolved before stupidity
destroys everything. maybe a discussion for a future date?
imho.
The Band - The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jREUrbGGrgM
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the confederate flag as resistance to the "union", as
resistance to the european money power, the central bank.
what was the cause of the "civil war"? there an odd
stream of verbal piss, "civil war"; good luck with
the most eloquent english language as a means of communication,
there is always semaphore or machine language? that is in
the form of a question for us all. why do we label obvious
mental illness as some political or patriotic inclination,
flag dependent and denominated?
perhaps it has to with the state of "mind" of the contemporary
man as depicted here. ....
"The great biologist E.O. Wilson once observed:
“The real problem of humanity is the following: we have paleolithic emotions; medieval institutions; and god-like technology. And it is terrifically dangerous, and it is now approaching a point of crisis overall.”" http://www.sovereignman.com/investing/an-american-biologist-sums-up-fina...
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An American Biologist Sums Up Financial Markets Perfectly
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-22/american-biologist-sums-financi...
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mental illness takes many forms,
some are upheld as heroic if resulting
in some outcome that promotes or supports
the aims and goal of the ruling elite
or status quo, then again, some
are condemned as diseased or evil.
think mcain and his nazi bros.. the saudi
kingdom and the isis freak show, the golden
gimmick, or the "paper clip" shit show and many more ...
.
"good luck", i say.
steve Earle - Sometimes She Forgets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hn4rx644sc
let us see how that dissolves.
Useless talkings
Gertrud, bring me the Nudelholz. We're going to war....
Many more coloured people were killed under the British flag than the Confederate flag.
The Confederate Flag is racist and always was racist. Removing racist symbols from the government buildings and lawns; corporations choosing not to be associated with racist symbols; these have nothing to do with erasing history. Does the state have to have monuments to every horrible thing the state did, because if it doesn't, it will be accused of erasing history? Grow up. Why is ZH spending so much time on the falling out of favor of this racist flag? Can't you find something more useful to report on or will defending racism be your contribution to improving the world this week?
This has nothing to do with a flag. Today a flag, tomorrow ZH.
I've been wondering what they were going to use to take the TPP off the sheeps minds.
Obama: We have to get this TPP passing off the news, I want something to take ALL the oxygen out of the news channels. ALL media 24/7.
What do we have?
Lacky: well we can take the nutjob shootin and amplify it / morph it into a Confederate Flag debate. It will divide the people perfectly.
They will be so busy arguing between themselves they will forget What TPP even was(If they even knew).
Obama: I love it. Run with it. I will clear any road blocks. I'll get someone to call Walmart, EBay, and the rest and have them throw their weight behind it. I want this on CNNCNBCFAUX and the rest starting tonight. Now get out of here and make it happen. I have T-time in a half hour with some other Corp. heads, I'll brief them on the back 9.
I'm done. Finished. With all this flag business and SCOTUScare toady - I've given up all hope that this country can be salvaged.
Focus locally folks. Take care of your family, tribe, community.
I wanted to get a stars and bars flag to fly in defiance, but I think I'll stick to the one in avatar.
I was about to post a "patriot standing by" with a few details of what one might want to focus on, but decided against it, for security reasons.
All I can say is I'm glad I understood what you feel right now, years ago. Otherwise I'd probably be waaay behind on getting ready.
The liberals will remove Hamilton, Andrew Jackson and finally Washington.
Next they'll replace them with multi-gender and multi-cultural people.
A transgender a, a black female and a Muslim to fulfill their agenda.
I am personally going to do a tattoo portrait of Ru Paul on your white ass. Then I'm going to make you my bitch while Ru applauds my consumation of your bitchhood. So, relax. You'll love it.
faggot
Nitpicking the human experience into mediocrity....
When the mint starts printing, the people will be free.
If the mint prints, YT must relent!
don't even think about erasing the zh flag!
"We have now 200,000 of our men well drilled in arms and used to War fare and I tell you it is with you and them that slavery shall not come back again, if you are determined it will not return again." --- black soldier Martin Delany's speech to ex-slaves --- July 1865
Go fly your looser flag. Celebrate failure. Does Gemany fly the Nazi flag anywhere??
I don't think you get it. I don't own a confederate flag. I don't support any form of oppression. This includes the oppression we're seeing about this flag. I'm not a fan of the NAZIs either, but I don't support their oppression.
Tolerance isn't limited to people who think like you, that's the opposite of tolerance.
Those who erase history, shall repeat it.
Continuous race propaganda is an easy lever for "Just Us" to keep citizens wary of each other instead of uniting against the real enemy.
Personally, I feel no guilt, shame, etc... for anything that my or anyone else's ancestors did - that was their world - this one is ours.
When real leaders emerge from those who endure this festering cesspool and unite everyone against their common enemy - "Just Us" is finished.
Satan always thinks he's got it all figured out.
Everything always goes to plan...until it doesn't.