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Forget Grexit, "Madame Frexit" Says France Is Next: French Presidential Frontrunner Wants Out Of "Failed" Euro

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There has been some confusion why Germany and the Eurozone are so strict in negotiating with France and unwilling to concede even to the smallest of what they deem as outlandish Greek demands. The reason is not so much whether Spain or even Italy, both countries with soaring unemployment, a lost generation and a sweeping movement against "austerity", follow with comparable demands should Europe concede to Tsipras, but France, where the frontrunner for the next president, the National Front's Marine Le Pen, has just warned that not only is a Grexit inevitable, but that France would follow shortly.

Here it is worth reminding that one of the biggest European concerns with Greece is not so much its resolute attitude toward Greek demands which Europe can easily squash and force a regime change by cutting off ELA to Greek banks forcing a prompt and violent coup d'etat, but dealing with political parties who promise anything and everything just to be elected, in the process pushing aside Europe's preferred technocrats who will do the bidding of Brussels without the smallest objection.

Le Pen is not a technocrat. In fact, as leader of the popular right-wing National Front party she is about as diametrically opposite as one can get to being a puppet of unelected bureaucrats. And that is concerning to Europe because having seen how easy it is for a populist party to get elected in Greece, promising an end to austerity and, if necessary, an exit from the Euro which in addition has become the "black sheep" political parties bogeyman.

Sure enough, that's precisely Le Pen's game plan: as she told Bloomberg in a recent interview, Le Pen, a frontrunner in France’s 2017 presidential election, says a Greek exit from the euro is inevitable. "And if it’s up to her, France won’t be far behind."

“We’ve won a few months’ respite but the problem will come back,” Le Pen said of Greece in an interview at her National Front party headquarters in Nanterre, near Paris, on Tuesday. “Today we’re talking about Grexit, tomorrow it will be Brexit, and the day after tomorrow it will be Frexit.”

And Brussels is listening. Le Pen, 46, is leading first-round presidential election polls in France, ahead of President Francois Hollande, ex-leader Nicolas Sarkozy and Prime Minister Manuel Valls. This is hardly good news for the Eurozone because she’s the only one of the four calling for France to exit the euro, banking on people’s exasperation with the Greek crisis and Britain’s proposed referendum on the European Union to win over voters.

Needless to say, without France there is no "European Union", and certainly no common currency.

And just to cement her chances of becoming the next president, Le Pen has already learned that in this day and age it is all about snarky, witty aphorisms and slogans. Such as this one: “I’ll be Madame Frexit if the European Union doesn’t give us back our monetary, legislative, territorial and budget sovereignty.

What exactly are her demands:

She’s calling for an orderly breakup of the common currency, with France and Germany sitting around the table to dismantle the 15-year-old monetary union.

 

Since she took over from her father as head of the National Front in 2011, Marine Le Pen has done her best to push the anti-immigration party into the French political mainstream. She came third in the 2012 presidential race and currently has two members in the country’s National Assembly for the first time since 1997.

As a reminder, yesterday we reported that French unemployment just hit a record high.

This is wonderful news for Mme Le Pen. "The combination of tepid economic growth and high unemployment at home, together with hundreds of thousands of African and Middle Eastern immigrants seeking jobs or asylum in Europe, has given Le Pen increased traction."

But the biggest fear is not so much her nationalistic angle, but the threats to crush the world's most expensive artificial currency experiment in history.

Le Pen, meanwhile, is pulling out all the stops to win more votes from the center-right, publicly distancing herself from the anti-Semitism and Holocaust denial of her party’s hard-liners –- which include her father –- and focusing instead on an anti-euro, anti-immigration and anti-radical-Islam platform.

 

Observers say it would be a mistake to rule her out of the running too quickly.

 

“To many people in France and to many people outside of France, a lot of the arguments she makes are very sound, particularly given everything that’s transpired,” Blackstone Group LP’s John Studzinski said in an interview Tuesday. “I think people are migrating toward leadership and I think Marine Le Pen is strong on a lot of things.”

Even German Chancellor Angela Merkel has expressed concern about the level of support Le Pen will receive in 2017 and how that power might weigh on French economic policy.

“She knows perfectly well that if France leaves, there’s no more euro,” Le Pen said. Although Le Pen hasn’t given a full, detailed plan of how she would lead her country out of the euro, she says she doesn’t believe France would be shut out of the borrowing market or rejected by investors as a result.

And so, slowly but surely, Europe's latest doomed attempt to integrate itself monetarily, fiscally, culturally and ethnically is set to crash. 

The only question at this point is whether in the summer of 2017 the same European Commission that is currently the venue of the endless Grexit negotiations will be filled with Portugal, Italy, Spain... or France, seeking to recreate the Greek fiasco demanding similar easing of their "austerity" terms as Greece is doing today. Or perhaps all of them together.

 

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Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:19 | 6233169 XAU XAG
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I would 

Would you

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:20 | 6233177 PartysOver
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Some folks across the pound are starting to get a clue.  To bad Muricans are still dumber than a box of rocks.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:23 | 6233190 AlaricBalth
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She has my vote!!!

If undocumented immigrants can vote here in the US, I should be able to vote in France, oui? 

Liberté, égalité, fraternit!!!

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:35 | 6233268 SMG
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I just don't see the Oligarchs letting the EU fall apart.  It's too important to their NWO plan.   They'll lie, cheat, steal, threaten, nail gun.  whatever it takes.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:39 | 6233295 Obchelli
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So market will get excuse to rally 20000 points every time "France is saved" headline pops never giving up, any gain on denial of this rumor and than same with Italy, Spain, Portugal Do will be at 100,000 by time Europe completely desintegrates

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:46 | 6233334 philipat
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And the same lack of common sense will "Force" the EU to provide any concessions to Cameron in "Negotiating" EU reforms which will also result in a UK withdrawal from the EU. The coverage of Greece, incidentally, never mentions that Greece is talking ONLY about pulling out of the Eurozone but NOT the EU. The two are entirely separate.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:49 | 6233350 philipat
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Waiting for Ghordius in 3...2...1.....

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:53 | 6233376 Haus-Targaryen
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He is in a bunker somewhere.  

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 11:00 | 6233422 old naughty
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Get in line,

Spain and/or Italy first...

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 11:50 | 6233760 NoDecaf
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Vive le Frexit!

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 12:05 | 6233839 fudge
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He took my advice ?  LoL

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 11:08 | 6233477 Antifaschistische
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If Greece exits....they will be slaughtered economically and TPTB will see to it that they are made the poster child of suffering to permanently extinguish all this nonsensical talk about other exiting parties.

yada yada...Greece will NOT be like Iceland with a fairy tale ending in a few years.  rough seas ahead.

note:  this is not an advertisement for staying in the EU.  the EU should fall apart...but TPTB still run the show.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 11:36 | 6233669 philipat
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Not so fast. By reneging on EUR 350 Billion of debt, and the attendent debt servicing costs, Greece would be in a good position to rebuild its economy, especially with new support from Russia and China. BUT a bunch of communists or neo-nazis are, perhaps, not the best of folks to create such a new beginning for a sustainable new future?

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 14:06 | 6234407 Anusocracy
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Real property does trump abstract concepts like debt.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:47 | 6233335 philipat
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Duplicate. Apologies. Fat Finger.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:52 | 6233366 Realname
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Order out of chaos

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 11:39 | 6233706 Lorenzo153
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Marine Le Pen is the sole hope to avoid the new feudalism where our society is bound. Therefore, she represents a threat to the new feudataries and will shortly be accused of the ugliest sins.

 

Take into consideration the following, classic path. The US and UK hear anyone; evidences intercepted/forged arrive to the prosecutor; he has to proceed. The time for the process is long, but the press-titute have had all the time to destry her, though innocent. The law work this way. Even if you denounce that a donkey is flying, the prosecutor must go on!!!

 

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 12:59 | 6234092 Paveway IV
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Me: I would vote for her

France: Idiot! Your vote doesn't count for chosing our president

Me: So what? My vote doesn't count for chosing the U.S. president, either.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 13:04 | 6234117 Freddie
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Next time some dumb f**k says "oh the French surrender..." BS - remind them of LePen.  If she wins then there is some hope.

All the AH over at Free Republic are Jonathan Pollard Zio_cons not real conservatives,  They always like dumping on France while they get on their bibi kneepads. 

Amerika is a joke.  Long live LePen.  And compared to Hillary - she is smoking hot.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:23 | 6233191 semperfi
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Americans - proving every day that humans are the dumbest species on the planet.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 11:04 | 6233443 SmallerGovNow2
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There are some that look or even sound dumb that are really smart...

http://www.infowars.com/this-redneck-nails-it-on-the-contrived-race-war/

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:23 | 6233192 nope-1004
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There's always a "deal" that can be made.  lmao.  This shit show has been deal after deal after deal.  Next up France, Spain, and Italy.  Part of me is beginning to think that the system is broken, but I could be wrong.

 

/stupid

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:36 | 6233282 Oh regional Indian
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"across the pound", classic freudian slip there PO!

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:39 | 6233296 PartysOver
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It was a typo,  my story and I am sticking to it.  </facepalm>

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 11:58 | 6233764 Tall Tom
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Denial...The most rudimentary expression of cognitive dissonance.

 

Do not worry...Along with the French exit the British exit will not be too far behind.

 

The European Union, a FAILED experiment in Monetary policy, the common currency established upon thin air, the evaluation thereof which is similar to BitCON...IS FRACTURING APART BEFORE YOUR VERY EYES.

 

Down deep you recognize that and as you are invested into this idea, if not Financially, which in my assessment that you are invested Financially, you deny that which is inevitable.

 

Yet what was far more revealing is that you bothered to TAKE THE ENERGY to PROTEST that it was a typo? That just revealed more than your initial post as you protested way too much, instead of chuckling at ORI's response, which I did.

 

See? You are way too serious. That demostrates your bias and investment.

 

Cognitve Dissonance, the ZH Contributor, wrote an essay about our responses to posts. It was rather revealing.

 

(I expect the junk from you with no response as you are in a box. Other than that concession.)

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:43 | 6233318 Postal
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That's even insulting to rocks...

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 13:56 | 6234360 BeaverCream
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They better get it done soon before there's no more Europeans left in Europe.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:21 | 6233183 XAU XAG
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Enter and exit Marine Le Pen!

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:38 | 6233290 Pliskin
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>>> Marine Le Pen

>>> Hillary Clinton

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 12:03 | 6233829 HolyfieldsOtherEar
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Like the fist of a wrathful God.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 13:05 | 6234120 Freddie
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Marine LePen = The New Joan of Arc.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 13:54 | 6234354 BeaverCream
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I would too

 

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:19 | 6233176 Flagit
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Still waiting for a politician to tell the truth.

A clip from season 2 episode 10 of The Island with Bear Grylls.
In the span of this clip, an Englishman sums up feelings the populous has with the political elite.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2varfe_why-we-don-t-trust-you_tv?utm_s...

 

When I see this guy, it gives me HOPE. People are not as dumb as TPTB think.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:27 | 6233216 XAU XAG
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GO Madame Frexit

 

Bet the Brussels folks are checking thier exit fees right now

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 11:36 | 6233680 Klaatuwept
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The class system in the UK is like no other in the world at keeping people in their place, that being said the guy was an idiot to judge the guy on the basis of the way he talks, imagine if it was the other way round.

Been wondering which country will be the first to go full fascist and its starting to look like it might be France. Whatever countries do go full fascist it will be a result of the failure of the politicians and the political system to address voters concerns and prevent them going to fringe parties in their frustration, but maybe the situation is so bad now there is no way back. Immigration is a massive concern for all western EU nations and no-one seems to be offering a solution other than the nationalist parties usual 'kick em out' dogwhistle politics

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 12:35 | 6233967 TheReplacement
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Would you mind defining "full fascist" and then mapping out how that applies to France?

FYI - USSA already went there.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 13:24 | 6234226 Klaatuwept
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Where the state and corporate power have become inseperable and are in full control of the country, one party government allowing no dissent or opposition and use of political scapegoats (usually 'foreign' elements within that society) to blame for the nations problems and elicit fear and hatred in the population.

Take a good look at the French National Front to see how that applies to France (read between the lines, they don't fully declare themselves for obvious reasons but the basic message is there)

USA definitely have the first condition, not so much the others as far as I can see.

 

 

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 14:28 | 6234480 Socratic Dog
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Better step back and look again.  USSA easily meets the 2nd and 3rd conditions.  The muzzies done EVERYTHING!  One party government, no dissent.... if you think that doesn't apply you are very naive.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 14:49 | 6234574 Klaatuwept
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No not naive, I also thought that you can make a case for the 2nd where Rep or Dem are basically the same party, not sure the US govt is openly blaming muslims for all their social ills, but then I'm not American so open to suasion from people who know more about their own society than I do. I would say they appear to an outside observer to at least be on the road to fascism, especially in the way the MIC demands ever more enemies to fight wars against.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 13:19 | 6234200 Flagit
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I agree that the message was sound, but delivered to the wrong person.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 13:45 | 6234308 Klaatuwept
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The message is being delivered to the right people via the rise of fringe parties and anti-austerity demos, unfortunately either there aren't enough people waking up yet to make the message loud enough to demand attention or the failure/capture of political systems make the message irrelevant to those who wield power, for example we are looking at a choice of Cliton / Bush next US election and UK just got another Conservative government, this time a majority.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:20 | 6233178 Bill of Rights
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breaking:US Supreme Court rules in favor of Obamacare subsidies

http://chicago.suntimes.com/nationworld/7/71/719865/us-supreme-court-rul...

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:22 | 6233186 Dr. Engali
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Once again Roberts votes to fuck the American people.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_SUPREME_COURT_HEALTH_OVERHAUL_...

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 12:36 | 6233968 TheReplacement
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Well at least our fucking will be subsidized.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 13:12 | 6234166 Freddie
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The ENTIRE US govt, judiciary, and everything is compromised.  Roberts is scum but just another cog in the wheel with N-SA, Deep State, MIC and others holding nail guns over their heads.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:22 | 6233187 semperfi
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People of France - you need to stop such thought now dammit - or the USA-Stasi is going to ram the NSA so far up your ass that they will know what you just ate.  Submit and Obey.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:23 | 6233189 ramgold2206
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Seriously guys, how much more of this shit can we take.... rinse and repeat... poor greeks getting the shit kicked out of them,,, them today .. us tomorrow...... its all fiat currency/central bank wet dream spwan,.

 

Get into the physical Bullion... and the stress levels drop significantly

 

check out www.teamramgold.com and I'll teach you how to make a system work for you to get bullion at the cheapest price... I can show you how to get the bullion home and in your hand for little over spot price ...

 

Im telling ye guys this programme works....

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:23 | 6233193 shanearthur
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I read somewhere that Greece had a 70% mortgage default rate. If that's true, one needs to know nothing more than this to know that NO plan will succeed with Greece. Everyone owes everyone with borrowed money from borrowers who have no money other than what they borrowed from other broke borrowers.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:27 | 6233213 sudzee
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France forced the US default in the early 70's. Looks like France will do it again very soon. Western C/b's and freemoney on very shaky ground. If you ain't out now you gonna loose.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:34 | 6233263 Armed Resistance
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No, the U.S. Forced their own default by straying from the system they created. France just called their bluff.

And the U.S. Government has defaulted on the system they swore to defend. THE PEOPLE of the U.S. will just be calling their hand too.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 11:14 | 6233513 semperfi
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THE PEOPLE of the U.F.S.A  (F = fascist) are too stupid and will just go along with what the media and govt tells them, while watching the latest Kardashian show.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 13:15 | 6234185 Freddie
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TV and Zollywood.  I always love the Texas is so badass garbage.  Texas gave us LBJ and the Bush klan.  Texans are obsessed with football and other TV and Zollywood idiocy. 

They cheer on trayvons as their ball team heroes.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:27 | 6233220 European on my ...
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And so it unravels let us go back to our villages and look to our neighbours as friend or foe 'the natural way' not the fuck up that is 'EU'

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 11:08 | 6233471 Commodore64
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Excactly.. DECENTRALISATION of power

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:28 | 6233223 Armed Resistance
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This is great news in the sense that we have more people waking up everyday to the reality that their existence was guided, massaged and managed on a world built on lies and deceit. But according to my own internal clock, the world will be in flames by 2017 when she runs as the majority of people rise up to face evil. Her support by that point will be overwhelming. Long guillotines.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:29 | 6233229 Savvy
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No potential leader of France will be allowed to tell the IMF to fuck off.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:32 | 6233253 semperfi
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there are no sovereign/state "leaders" - only puppets of the banksters - except in Russia & China

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:30 | 6233238 Jtrillian
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May the central banks chip and shatter. 

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:32 | 6233254 ebworthen
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France will be the last holdout on the E.U. and the Euro.

Germany will go to Deutschmarks before the Franc returns.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 12:03 | 6233827 Tall Tom
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Perhaps you are right and are just declaring the death of the Euro.

 

EURO...RIP

 

Good Riddance

 

Fuck the European Socialst Union.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:35 | 6233270 Zimscooter
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if Draghi can somehow copy Ben "i had the courage to print" Bernanke, then a real bazooka of Euro QE could see the Eur/Usd at 0.90:1.00 and that would be a huge leg up for France and the weak peripheral states - a major devaluation would would be a massive nitro boost for them...

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:36 | 6233278 rayo_xis
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Europe is over!

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:36 | 6233280 Herdee
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France doesn't want a bunch of useless morons financing Ukraine in another useless experiment.Can you imagine a country the size of the Ukraine that's in even worse shape than Detroit being endlessly financed?Let Washington bury their moula in that dump.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:37 | 6233284 Blopper
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There will be NO GREXIT ever.

There will be NO FREXIT ever.

From the very start of the EU and Euro, there will be NO EXIT ever.

These are all just political drama.

When the fucking fuck are you dumb fucks going to understand?

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:45 | 6233326 semperfi
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instead, the only way the shitshow ends - like it always ends - always - is with civil war/revolution

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:45 | 6233327 Dragon HAwk
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Never is always a good Bet...

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:53 | 6233377 More Ammo
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Just like in merica, there will be NO SECESION or we will kill you, history....

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:38 | 6233291 BoPeople
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If there was a legally binding referendum on whether the United States federal government should be returned to its pre-civil war state, I would vote the affirmative. The post-civil war government has apparently sold itself and the people out to nefarious interests.

I am sure that the Euro-peon countries are seeing that once a consolidating government takes over, fascism and dictatorial power take increasing hold.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:39 | 6233297 Dragon HAwk
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Wow that would mean, we made it to 2017... Awsome...

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:41 | 6233310 Out of France
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now

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:43 | 6233314 cornflakesdisease
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Never gonna happen.  Even Greece will NOT be allowed out.  United States of Europe.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:46 | 6233333 semperfi
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United Fascist States of Europe

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:49 | 6233352 cornflakesdisease
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Come back and check me comment in 5 years.  Never gonna happen.  Just like they would undue any of their trade agreements.  Never gonna happen.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 12:08 | 6233853 Tall Tom
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Most likely we will not survive for five more years as a cohesive society.

 

Even the Bank of England gave us until 2040 at most the other day

 

War will have killed off most, if not all, of us. That includes YOU.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:47 | 6233319 Blopper
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The fucking Rothschilds are playing both sides of the European politics.

You can't possibly think the politicians are so bloody stupid and dumb that it takes them countless of talks, negotiations, etc to exit, do you?

You can't possibly think they are so bloody stupid and dumb they can't even think of the best solution post-exit, do you?

Even a bunch of criminals pulling off the century's most sophisticated heist ever involving multimillions on their own can lay out their plans and carry out the execution in significantly far less time than the Greeks deciding how and when to exit.

You can't be that bloody fucking stupid and bloody fucking dumb to believe in those Rothschild's politicians, do you?

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 12:44 | 6234000 TheReplacement
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When you put it like that it seems the obvious answer for most people is, "YES!!!"

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 13:23 | 6234222 basho
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they have always played both sides

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:47 | 6233340 European on my ...
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Franch should not forget the pressure that the USA and Britain placed upon them during the Fauklands war re Exorcet supply to Argentina and the recent Mistral supply to Russia

Get the fuck away from the 'EU'

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:50 | 6233357 Realname
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Im waiting on the 'Fuckit'...when everyone finally comes to the realization that we are all screwed.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:53 | 6233378 WTFUD
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Don't be too hard on yourselves my American partners, Cameron the bankers boy and his sidekick Osborne the Bilderberg, RULE THE UK ROOST on 36% (331 seats) of the popular Vote while UKIP secured approx 13% and have only 2 seats in parliament to show for it.

Now that's what you call a SCAM.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:55 | 6233385 MSorciere
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France doesn't need the Euro - never did. It has been an extreme inflationary force for 14 years, only abating a bit lately.

 

In 2000 France still manufactured most of what it consumed. Thanks to the Euro, that self sufficiency has deteriorated.

 

Tourism and agriculture, its two main sources of income would have thrived so much more without the Euro.

 

France was THE world power at one time. It is not in their nature to relinquish control to Brussels (especially of all places) nor to Frankfurt.

The extent of outsourcing government has led to this current insanity and excessive ideology.

The Euro experiment has clearly had the effect of imposing the Deutchmark on all 19 countries and although I'm sure that the French government has admired the strength of that Dmark currency and the powerhouse economy behind it, it will have to recognize that French sovereignty trumps all else.

 

As long as Sarkozy is not involved, you can be sure that France will regain its identity of self determination, freedom and pride. The present government is also ineffectual and SAD.

 

Never imagined, knowing of her father, that I would have a shred of faith in FN and LePen, but so far she is the only one talking sense.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 13:24 | 6234217 Freddie
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LePen, Putin, Farage and the old former Pres of the Czech Republic and maybe the bloke in Holland (Geert Wilders) are the only ones talking any sense.

They tried to kill Farage.  They killed Olaf Palme in Sweden, the PM in Holland (Pim Fortyun) and they killed Jorg Haider in Austria.

12 years later - they released Pim's murderer aka Assasin for the state.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27261291

Anyone standing up in the Ukraine or to the junta has been killed including Mozgovi.  They tried to kill Givi.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:57 | 6233389 Blopper
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To the stupid fools-cum-sheep-cum-zombie/worthless eaters,

If Greece, France, etc EU members really sincerely and honestly wants to quit/exit, they wouldn't wanna fucking disclose it.

A real exit is a very serious news that can jeopardize the local economy, the banking system, the bond market, the stock market, and everyone's lives, and would be carried out in extreme secrecy.

They would probably exit while everyone else is sleeping in their pen, and before everyone wakes up and realize what happen, it would have happened already.

You think the politicians would be so bloody fucking stupid as to run around in public while yelling "We're gonna exit! We're gonna exit!" and really exit?

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 11:09 | 6233479 hendrik1730
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Yes.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 13:39 | 6234286 Amy G. Dala
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The years of bumbling and hand-wringing over Greece has given LePen a great hand to play.  France is obviously not without its grievances.  What LePen (or any other aspiring pol) says now and what she does later are two very different things.

I'm sure Vlad is a big fan of LePen.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 10:56 | 6233390 Finogen
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Go LePen!

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 11:01 | 6233427 large_wooden_badger
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The EU will break up as soon as the global elites can figure out a way to profit from it.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 11:15 | 6233522 MarketWizard
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I wish the Greeks would just flip everyone the bird!!...They been lied to about this prestige and privlege of staying in the EU....FCK EM

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 11:15 | 6233527 Son of Loki
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Slow demise of the euro, looks like. Now everyone is looking to China's yuan.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 11:18 | 6233552 Dominus Ludificatio
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The EU (Germany) and the IMF believe  they can force a snap Greek election and get a more subservient leader/party . They want to see a lot more damage and blake Tsipras for the impasse.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 11:19 | 6233565 Martian Moon
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TPP has made local, and by that I mean national, politicians, irrelevant

There is no "democratic" way to get out of this cage TPTB have built, piece by piece, around their hostage populations

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 11:21 | 6233574 samsara
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I see a nail gun in her future....

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 11:46 | 6233743 Farmer Joe in B...
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I was thinking the same. Once they fail at discrediting her (Ron Paul style), then they will certainly turn to more nefarious methods. 

The probability of a Le Pen suicide are rising by the day. I hope I pull her name in the next death pool I organize. 

Speaking of death pools...that seems like a fun group exercise for ZH. Tyler, get on it...!!!!

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 12:23 | 6233918 Skargit
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Nah, I was in France visiting my Wife's family not that long ago. They have her discredited and pegged as a totalitarian nazi- the amount of fear being drawn out of Le Pen supporters is just intensifying and the sheep are buying it- French MSM, common cafe convos, etc.. Why turn her into a martyr when you can turn her into a monster?

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 12:56 | 6234072 Dien Bien Poo
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very well put! She has been demonized by all sides in France, despite her attempt at distancing her odious father. She has zero chance of gaining the Presidency in France. The establishement will see to that. Royalty may have been decapitated in 1789 - 1796 in France, but make no mistake, France has a very strong and powerful elite, infused in all aspects of its industry, Finance, Military, civil service and politics. L'etat, c'est eux.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 11:24 | 6233602 roadhazard
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"May I have your attention, the exits are here, here and here." 

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 11:56 | 6233782 silverer
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"Dangerous, aggressive" Russia is sitting there just watching.  That's all they've been doing for quite some time.  Just watching.  That's all they have to do to win.  Just stay back, stay out of the fight.  Putin knows this.  They just move on, while the west torpedoes itself.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 12:03 | 6233826 Joebloinvestor
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France is running on bull shit and fumes.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 12:11 | 6233857 HungryPorkChop
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The problem remains with the Euro is they are not on even footing nor do they play fair with each other.  Manufacturing and exporting powerhouse Germany loves a weak Euro.  They know if Germany was back on the Deutschmark their currency would be much stronger and thereby killing their exports.  So instead they do everthing possible to pressure the weaker countries to stay around as long as possible.  The partey' cannot end. 

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 12:19 | 6233900 fxpmtrader
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!!! Vive la France !!!

I have always said: "at the end of the road there will be another french revolution!"

 

The more extreme imbalaces - the likelier another french revolution.

Humans have learned absolutely nothing.

Neither the dumb and ignorant 99.99% sheeple - nor the "never ever can get enough" 0.01% gorillas.

Since Stonage.

 

Oligarchs, Mega-Corps, bankers and politicans all in one bed - can it get worse?

YES - MUCH MUCH MUCH WORSE.

But it will ANYWAY end the same way.

The 0.01% hanging in trees and guillotines.

 

Humans are a miserably failed race.

With relentless greed and/or relentless ignorance the REAL human pests.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 12:40 | 6233983 SmittyinLA
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non statehood is a bitch, you're not longer a "citizen" but a "resident", misery loves company, United States of America is not longer a "state" or a "union of states" but a non-state run by bureauract agents of authorized printers.  

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 12:58 | 6234084 wow thats crazy
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Sure people talk tough but what will happen really if she get into power. Brussels will send down their NATO Enforcers to tell her whats up if she gets into power! "Look Bitch this is how things work around her!"

I am sure Putin and Xi in China had the same problem. most leaders!

Just look at Cameron or Obama, Harper. Does anybody really believe these guys have any power over the bankers and corporate elites.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 13:00 | 6234098 Mike Masr
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As Vicoria Nuland says, fuck the EU!

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 13:19 | 6234206 basho
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"which Europe can easily squash and force a regime change by cutting off ELA to Greek banks forcing a prompt and violent coup d'etat,"

oh really or would it just feed the fires of GR obstinence and cause GR to 'tip' out of the EU, € and nato and find some other playmates.

...and then there are movements in other EU lands eg IT that might like to see the same happen in their backyard in order to also drop out of the Erratic Union.

who is the "Europe" that can do the squashing ... DE?

Europe can't get its s*it together over anything eg UE, RU, gas pipelines ussa, TR.

what makes you think it can squash anything?

 

 

 

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 13:22 | 6234209 Jack Burton
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Why does it take Socialists to insist that the Brussels dictatorship end? Brussels EU communists are trying to destroy Europe as an entity, and replace it with a Black African and Muslim majority, at the same time, a few select banks and corproations are given unlimited power and access to zirp capital. The EU dances like a puppet to Washington's Zionists and bows to NATO's demands for war. Brussels and the EU is the worst of everything rolled up into one entity. Communism, fascism, reverse racism, war mongering, open borders, central bank dictatorship and centrally planned economies. Everything bad it seems is gathered together in the EU. Brussels is a hell hole over overpaid, overpowerful idiots. But only the ultra radical right and the leftists seem to want to end it! Where is the solid center of businessmen who want capitalism, where are ethnic Europeans who want their culture to survive, where are people supporting real job growth through free enterprise and small business? These are the people who should demand an exit from the EU communists, and corporate fascists, and NATO war mongers.

Any nation like Iceland, who dares to be free, can return to free markets, competition, close the fucking borders and regain control over immigration. The EU demands EU nations resettle hundreds of thousands of Africans, and send ship to pick up more!

How can a reasonable middle class worker, businessman, or small business person allow the fucking EU the right to be Orwellian dictators and destroyers of Europe? Fuck the EU? You bet, fuck 'em hard. Chase the nest of snakes in Brussels out of town and into the sea, where they can drown.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 15:05 | 6234646 fumb-ducker
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Spot on Jack.

As these money-junkie pricks are everywhere, it has to be a global purge. I think of them as a cancer, either it has to be cut out, or eventually irradiated. Neither option will be without great sacrifice. Unfortunately as the problem was not treated earlier, we will have to suffer the consequences. The alternative is to leave a rotten, bloated carcass, for future generations to contend with...

 

 

 

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 10:25 | 6237486 fxpmtrader
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Humans are just fucking dumb and fucking ignorant sheeple.

That's why shit happens.

As otherwise the communist corporate fascists and relentless powerhungry US/NATO war mongerers would have long drowned in their own shit.

Though the ultra dumb and ignorant sheeple let it happen.

So the ultra dumb and ignorant sheeple deserve what they get.

 

Nothing changed since Stonage except maybe some colors and glittering.

Humans =  completely useless failed species.

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 14:22 | 6234464 duckrichard
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If you go on the FN website  http://www.frontnational.com/ and you go to her project page it is stated that :

 

She want  to change the Europeen Union (not leave it)

Except that if you want to change the consitution you have to have all 27 Europeen states approval (how is she going to manage that ? )

Every single party at every presidential election say they want a different EU but of course sincxe it is impposible to change it doesn't.

 

Concerning NATO it is said that the FN will denounce NATO (again not leave it)

 

Honestly with all the main stream media time she get (more than any other french political party) don't be surprised that if ever she is elected nothing will change.

I personnaly believe she is just a tool of the system so that nothing changes .

 

There is a french political party that states clearly that if elected they will get out of EU and NATO guess how much main stream media attention they get ?

Thu, 06/25/2015 - 17:57 | 6235181 nicxios
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Go LePen Go! Tear this fucking monstrosity down. Kill this ugly bitch named euro and all her Brussels and German pimps!

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