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The Pentagon Goes Nuclear On Russia
Authored by Pepe Escobar, originally posted at RT.com,
We all remember how, in early June, President Putin announced that Russia would deploy more than 40 new ICBMs “able to overcome even the most technically advanced anti-missile defense systems.”
Oh dear; the Pentagon and their European minions have been freaking out on overdrive ever since.
First was NATO Secretary-General, Norwegian figurehead Jens Stoltenberg, who condemned it as “nuclear saber rattling.”
Then there’s Lt. Gen. Stephen Wilson, the head of US Global Air Strike Command – as in the man responsible for US ICBMs and nuclear bombers – at a recent briefing in London; “[They’ve] annexed a country, changing international borders, raising rhetoric unlike we’ve heard since the cold war times…”
That set up the stage for the required Nazi parallel; “Some of the actions by Russia recently we haven’t seen since the 1930s, when whole countries were annexed and borders were changed by decree.”
At His Masters Voice’s command, the EU duly extended economic sanctions against Russia.And right on cue, Pentagon supremo Ashton Carter, out of Berlin, declared that NATO must stand up against – what else – “Russian aggression” and “their attempts to re-establish a Soviet-era sphere of influence.”
Bets are off on what this huffin’ and puffin’ is all about. It could be about Russia daring to build a whole country close to so many NATO bases. It could be about a bunch of nutters itching to start a war on European soil to ultimately “liberate” all that precious oil, gas and minerals from Russia and the Central Asian “stans”.
Unfortunately, the whole thing is deadly serious.
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Vast desolate tracts of US ‘Think Tankland’ at least admit that this is partly about the exceptionalist imperative to prevent “the rise of a hegemon in Eurasia.” Well, they’re not only “partly” but totally wrong, because for Russia – and China – the name of the game is Eurasia integration through trade and commerce.
That condemns the “pivoting to Asia”, for the moment, to the rhetorical dustbin. For the self-described “Don’t Do Stupid Stuff” Obama administration – and the Pentagon - the name of the game is to solidify a New Iron Curtain from the Baltics to the Black Sea and cut off Russia from Europe.
So it’s no surprise that in early June, the Pentagon’s Office of Net Assessment, in itself a think tank, hired another think tank, the Center for European Policy Analysis (CEPA) to churn out – what else – a bunch of war games.
CEPA happens to be directed by A. Wess Mitchell, a former adviser to former Republican presidential candidate and master of vapidity Mitt Romney. Mitchell – who sounds like he flunked history in third grade – qualifies Russia as a new Carthage; “a sullen, punitive power determined to wage a vengeful foreign policy to overturn the system that it blames for the loss of its former greatness.”
Russian intelligence is very much aware of all these US maneuvers.So it’s absolutely no wonder Putin keeps coming back to NATO’s obsession in building a missile defense system in Europe right at Russia’s western borderlands; “It is NATO that is moving towards our border and we aren’t moving anywhere.”
NATO, meanwhile, gets ready for its next super production; Trident Juncture 2015, the largest NATO exercise after the end of the Cold War, to happen in Italy, Spain and Portugal from September 28 to November 6, with land, air and naval and special forces units of 33 countries (28 NATO plus five allies).
NATO spins it as a “high visibility and credibility” show testing its “Response Force” of 30,000 troops. And this is not only about Russia, or as a rehearsal in pre-positioning enough heavy weapons for 5,000 soldiers in Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Poland, Romania, Bulgaria and Hungary.
It’s also about Africa, and the symbiosis NATO/AFRICOM (remember the “liberation” of Libya?) NATO Supreme Commander Gen. Breedhate, sorry, Breedlove, bragged, on the record, that, “the members of NATO will play a big role in North Africa, the Sahel and sub-Saharan Africa.”
Feel the love of my S-500
As far as Russia is concerned, all this warmongering hysteria is pathetic.
Facts: under Putin, Russia has actively rebuilt its strategic nuclear missile force. The stars of the show are the Topol M – an ICBM which zooms by at 16,000 miles an hour - and the S-500 defensive missile system, which zooms by at 15,400 miles an hour and effectively seals off Russian airspace.
Russian intelligence identified as early as the dawn of the new millennium that the weapons of the future would be missiles; not clumsy aircraft carriers or a surface fleet which can easily be smashed by top-class missiles (as the new SS-NX-26 anti-ship, Yakhont missile which zooms by at 2.9 Mach).
The Pentagon knows it – but hubris dictates the “we’re invincible” posing. No, you’re not invincible; silent Russian submarines offshore the US could engage in a nuclear turkey shoot knocking out every major American city in a few minutes with total impunity. In only fifteen years Russia has jumped two generations ahead of the US on missiles and may be on the verge of a first strike nuclear capacity, while the US can’t retaliate because the Pentagon can’t get through the S-500s.
Public opinion in the US doesn’t know any of this – so what’s left is posturing. We’re back to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Martin Dempsey spinning the US is “considering” deploying land-based missiles - with nuclear warheads - that could reach Russian cities across Eurasia.
This does not even qualify as a childish – and unbelievably dangerous - provocation. These missiles will be useless. The US has submarine-based missiles available, and they cannot get through Russian defenses either; the S-500s will do the job. So if the Pentagon and NATO really want war, wait until next year or 2017 max – with ‘The Hillarator’ or Jeb “I’m not Bush” at the White House - when the S-500 deployment will be completed.
Putin knows extremely well how dangerous is this posturing. That’s why he emphasized that the US unilateral withdrawal from the 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile (ABM) Treaty – which established that neither the US nor the USSR would try to neutralize each other’s nuclear deterrence by building an anti-missile shield – is pushing the world towards a new Cold War; “This in fact pushes us to a new round of the arms race, because it changes the global security system.”
Washington unilaterally withdrew from the ABM Treaty during the “axis of evil” Dubya era, in 2002. The pretext was that the US needed “protection” from rogue states, at the time identified as Iran and North Korea. The fact is this cleared the Pentagon to build a global anti-missile system directed against – who else – the only true “threats” against the hegemon; BRICS members Russia and China.
Terminator Ash on a roll
Under neocon Ash Carter – compared to whom Donald Rumsfeld barely qualifies as Cinderella – the Pentagon wants to go Terminator all the way.
“Options” being considered against Russia are an offensive missile shield across Europe to shoot Russian missiles (totally useless against the Topol M); a “counterforce” (in ‘Pentagonese’) that implies pre-emptive non-nuclear strikes against Russian military sites; and “countervailing strike capabilities”, which in ‘Pentagonese’ means pre-emptive deployment of nuclear missiles against targets – and cities – inside Russia.
So we’re talking about the unthinkable here; a pre-emptive nuclear strike against Russia. There’s only one scenario if that happens; a full-scale nuclear war. The mere fact that this is considered an “option on the table” reveals everything one needs to know about what passes for “foreign policy” in the heart of the Indispensable Nation.
In Iraq, a pre-emptive strike – although non-nuclear - was “authorized” based on non-existent weapons of mass destruction (WMDs). So the whole planet knows the ‘Empire of Chaos’ is capable of fabricating any pretext. In the case of Russia, the Pentagon may play ‘Ultimate Terminator’ all they want, but it won't be a walk in the park; after all in less than two years Russian airspace will be effectively sealed by the S-500s.
Beware of the ‘Shock and Awe’ you want. Still, no chance the Pentagon will take Putin seriously (Ash Carter, on the record, is a sucker for regime change.) Recently, the Russian President couldn’t be more explicit; “This is no dialogue. It's an ultimatum. Don't speak the language of ultimatums with us.”
MAD – Mutually Assured Destruction – is way over. It kept a somewhat uneasy peace during seven decades of Cold War. Cold War 2.0 is as hardcore as it gets. And with all those Breedhate Strangeloves on the loose, nuclear madness is now at five seconds to midnight.
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Fucking NATO, they can mobilize all those troops but cant fucking STOP immigration that is destroying and invading Europe. Its not the Russians assholes, its the fucking muslims pouring in from Africa and the Middle East. All I see is pictures of pregnant bitches walking across one border to another in Europe. Fucking idiots playing their war games while the real war is happening under their noses.
You know what they do, the fucking illegal chicks marry muslims with papers in Europe while the illegal fuckers marry the bitches with papers from muslim families. Along the way they may rape some white christian chicks. Anyways this way they double their numbers, and then they pop out like five kids which fucking takes it through the roof. Just like the fucking movie ALIENS. Maybe the shits in Brussels need to watch that a few times.
"It would be easier to pay off the national debt overnight than to neutralize the long-range effects of our national stupidity"
-- Frank Zappa
All bread and circuses for the plebes.
Dancing with Putin is part of the of the agenda of the NWO. The posturing has it purpose.
I would have been nice for tarp to go t us people. Was i$780 billion of new debt, hmmm 330 mil people, not a bad kick in the pants.... Ahem.
cosa nostra been recorded saying at phone call " we do not give a fuck , now with migrant buziness we make more cash than with drugs "
so, the muslims may be the materia here used, and abused by fancy promises, but the fact is it is still whites who manipulates africans....
Mr McCain said "We will bury you"
I don't subscribe to that point of view
It would be such an ignorant thing to do
If the Americans love their children too....
Misqoute from Sting
One has to wonder sometimes, however, whether these neocona actually give a shit about humanity and its survival. This is really scary "Strangelove" kind of shit. There is, of course, the theory that TPTB acttually want to reduce the population by 90% whilst they are safely tucked away in their well-stocked bunkers. But that, of course, is just a "Conspitacy Theory". Unless...........
Thank God we are in Indonesia, nicely tucked away from the Pacific currents and in the Southern Hemisphere away from the Jet Stream. It's nice here.....
Incidentally, the latest Russian jet fighters can actually FLY without computers, unlike the F-35. That might be a slight problem when the Russians use their superior electronic blocks, as they did in the South China Sea against a US Destroyer to disable ALL its systems. They KNOW all this so WTF are they doing unless they really do want to get 90% of us killed?
I think the Feds nuclear timer is about run out, as for 5 seconds, it was said as the clock approached midnight each second would take longer than the one before until the last second took forever.
I don't think the good stuff is going to come down for quite a while phil.
I just hope, for the sake of humanity, that you are right....
Humanity will be just fine, the rest of you guys i'm not so sure about.
lol. I'm pleased that these neocon lunatics don't bother "You other Trolls, sorry, Guys"..I see you have been a member for over three years but post intermittently, A "Sleeper" in fact?
And as for "Negative Rates" jolly good show and bring on the cashless society. Since this is US based, I must now record the /sarc off notation.
And just for interest on the issue of "Peaceful" radiation as follows:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qX-YU4nq-g
SG, dismembering the multinational corporations will be the cornerstone of my administration; standing down the nukes will only be a corollary to that policy.
Put $2363.64 into the pocket of everybody in the USSA and all you'll get is a riot at W*mart. It would not have saved or even boosted the economy for longer than a month.
The social pyramid systems converge at the capstone of that pyramid. The pyramidion people at the top tend to be the same, and their overall agenda is what gets implemented through their lower level assistants.
Hence: Overshoot in a nutshell ...
Although this video I link below reviews the American historical facts, I would expect that a detailed study would reveal a similar pattern of social facts throughout Europe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxcEIpbNBjU
Who opened America's borders?
To oversimplify: The AVERAGE demographics are MISLEADING! In America, it is more of an Hispanic overwhelming, while in Europe it is more of a Muslim overwhelming. "Birth control" is actually another euphemism for death control. Women who have less than 2 children are committing suicide. & Women with more than 2 are declaring war on their neighbours. When one goes past the MISLEADING AVERAGE DEMOGRAPHICS, the more detailed analyses reveal that, overall, the rich are committing suicide, while the poor are declaring war on the rich, while the richest of the rich are preparing to start much more genocidal wars, as well as impose democidal martial law.
Militarism is the ideology of the murder system. It is the supreme ideology, and it deserves to be the supreme ideology. However, tragically, the overall situation is there has been prodigious progress in physical science, without any matching progress in political science. The primary reason for that is the history of successful warfare based upon backing up deceits with destruction, resulting in human death controls, as artificial selection systems, being based upon the maximum possible deceits. Furthermore, the core organized crime gangs actually doing that the most, namely, governments as the biggest forms of organized crime, effectively controlled by the best organized gangs of criminals, were also able to control their opposition.
The resulting situation is that the actual existing systems have become psychotic, while it is practically impossible for any more rational evidence or logical arguments to have any effect upon the established systems, since there is almost nothing but a core of organized crime, surrounded by controlled opposition, both of which remain within the same overall frame of reference of the maximum possible deceits regarding the death control systems.
Napolean explained it well in a couple of paragraphs. Hermmy Goering summed it up in a couple of sentances. Always was, always will be.
all this fueled by fiat(windfall stocks, ha) that inturn accelerates the strip mining of resources(literally earl,ha) which in turn accelerates our demise as the naturals system break down and life sustainable (can not) until tyme heals...
maybe if the regime changers of this world would leave the poeple of these countries alone they would stay home.
ever think of that?
clue: look at the source and not the symptoms
you cannot prevent in whole animal reign any animal to change his land by another if the food is better...
west have used media to promote lifestyle, and to have bigger share market, now the little empty stomac black with nike hat and adidas trousers want to go europ you gonna tell him, not boy, you can buy our stuff but you stay where you are ?
in their heads it is not fair, and it's not.
all they want is better lifestyle, à l'américaine.... but hey, who educated blacks in history before give em back freedom... so do not be surprised now they have their own control of their countries they just act like west ones do, corruption, theft, it's the same.
the world works this way, gimme some i give you back, it is a fundamental.
in liberal countries, seeing opportunities and do not take it is a crime or proof of stupidity.
I can shoot the fucking animal if he starts hunting in my neck of the woods.
I dont know about western europe, but in eastern europe their timeline (ie illegals) for survival will drop to zero much faster than the zerohedge timeline predicts for everyone.
In Eastern Europe muslim invaders were impaled very frequently. There is zero tolerance for invaders.
Ah, an effective summary of the state of the 'american' electorate. It serves to put into perspective this summary of 'american' foreign policy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZMyCy6BvmQ&t=10s
Topol is the best damn smoker's tooth polish money can buy.
He was also good in Fiddler on the Roof and Flash Gordon.
Stop these fools any way possible. What the hell is wrong with communist president Jarett and her black monkey boy puppet? What the hell is wrong with amerika to allow this continuing crazy shit un-checked?
"Stop these fools any way possible. What the hell is wrong with communist president Jarett and her black monkey boy puppet? What the hell is wrong with amerika to allow this shit un checked?"
Bad drugs and an enormous mountain of stupidity.
CON-Gresz is gladly going along with all of this.
I cannot stand the Bushes, Clintons and O but anyone remember how Bush 2 was buddies with Putin and Russia. They got on fine. What changed?
Now - the criminal govt wants nuclear war and the media says nothing. Not that I watch shit TV or hollywood but the internet news just spews endless war mongering shit. Putin is Hitler, anti-christ and next he will be a Confederate Rebel and Robert E. Lee reincarnated.
This would be laughable if they were not so insane. Meanwhile, the liberally insane Left Coast of the USSA is probably been bombarded by Fuki mist for 3+ years and not a word is said. The most "environmentally porgreessive" area in the world and Fukishima is never mentioned.
China launches an sub based ICBM off the coast of California a few years ago and it is denied by everyone. Kaitlan Jenner is a bigger story.
http://www.truthorfiction.com/chinese-sub-catalina/
If Putin only really WERE still a Communist, Bathhouse Barry would be begging to suck his cock.
Much worse for the west, a born again Christian.
ask george sorreass and his master baron rotschild
It would not be the first time that the rulers of this world used nuclear weapons against their populations in all-out war (and I am not talking Hiroshima and Nagasaki).
Self-serving assholes never change.
Yep, lately someone has been testing their new toys (fourth generation nukes and reduced radiation weapons) on miners, farmers and goat herders. ….. Basically po folk that can’t return the favor and probably don’t own a Geiger counter to test the crater. I can’t say for sure who is toy testing but I can make a semi-educated guess.
I’d be on the lookout for a nuclear fueled False Flag event and not be too quick to finger an alleged bad guy or culprit nation.
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US quantities of missiles will overwhelm all Russian quality.
(and vice versa)
Too many offensive missiles can be fired by both sides,
only limited areas can be protected.
Only need 10% of the 20000 missiles in stock pile to hit anywhere and it's an extinction event. These aren't the toy bombs they dropped on Japan. Those were rated in megatonnes. The smallest payload in the ICBM arsenal is 1 Kilotonnes. The halflife of background radiation is roughly 8500 years. 90% of the systems that are out there are on dead man switches that override all human interaction once more than a certain threshold of detonations is met. More than three over the course of 12 hours is the number I last read.
The rationale behind the deadman switches and the counts, is just in case of invasion and enemy forces taking control. In order to 'win' it was determined that all fall and none win. Hence MAD, Mutually Assured Destruction.
A large percentage of the missiles in the US stockpile are actually pointed at allies to ensure that any ally position would not be taken. "To fall on one's own sword" was//is the policy. All targets in Europe are to be destroyed along with all major US cities with populations higher than 250000. Along with every Canadian city including the capital Ottawa. The fact is the US NATO command has more artillery pointed at 'home team' targets than they have pointed at any external target.
Because that's how hostages get taken on a world stage. Easier shooting a partner in the back that's not expecting it...not like anyone will be around after to complain. I hope the Czech republic understands what they signed up for now. They aren't your partner, you are their hostage.
These aren't the toy bombs they dropped on Japan. Those were rated in megatonnes. The smallest payload in the ICBM arsenal is 1 Kilotonnes.
not to be a dick but a megaton (mega = million) is bigger than a kiloton (kilo = thousand). you have it backwards. the bombs dropped on Japan were rated in kilotons; the ones in today's arsenal are rated in megatons.
You are not being "a dick" to point out an obvious mistake, that was probably accidentally made. I thought the same thing, and felt that it unfortunately detracted from an otherwise overall correct comment.
It's the domestic nuclear power plants that have basically ascertained an ELE is unavoidable, whether caused through natural disaters or war.
THE VERY FIRST STRATEGIC TARGET a country's enemy will hit is it's domestic nuclear power.
It's obvious isn't it?
Maximum damage with bare minimum effort/input.
We are skating on the thinnest of ice over the deepest lake and the human race is, unfortunately, destined for the bottom.
Nothing can stop it, nothing.
No, the first strategic target will be the electric power grid. An EMP will knock it out.
The NPPs will cook off over the next two or three weeks, as their backup systems fail.
If you're the attacker, the first strategic target is the enemy's ability to retailiate; you want to hit aircraft carriers and bases, missile silos, nuclear submarines, etc. You don't want to ruin his country. You want to enslave it. It would be pointless to destroy the enemy's ability to rebuild damage to your own country.
"only limited areas can be protected."
really? where?
would you want to be in a protected area?
maybe downwind from strike zone?
wake up
eh ? are you out of your mind ? american missiles cant overwhelm russian missiles . firstly they have less nuke missiles than russians seco dly russian nukes are of higher quality .
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/russia-overtakes-us-in-nu...
"Martin Dempsey spinning the US is “considering” deploying land-based missiles"
Obama and his staff is more concerned about turning the military trans-gender and multicultural. In the mean time he's talking tough in the media.
His neocons like Victoria Nuland would like to start a war so she can divert attention from H1Bs and outsourcing of more US jobs.
Toys, money and immaturity
them missles still look like giant wooden penises to me. My penis is BIGGER than your penis!!!!! We are STILL stupid primates and we WILL end up making Earth a radioactive hell.
penis-envy :)
"We are STILL stupid primates and we WILL end up making Earth a radioactive hell."
no doubt, psychological barbarians
prehistorical feelings, middle age constitutions, god-like technologies....
what the fuck you can expect from such combo.
I have a solution. Let's give them all the western banksters, primitive nobility and oligarchs in exchange for world peace and an open source software financial system and an open source software political system for the entire world.
the FRN (dollar) is close to death.......and these fucking Generals will be out of work when the (fake money) (bank note scheme) Rothschilds debt-money plantation script finally dies...........
The problem is, with the end in sight and nothing for them to lose, they become even more dangerous.
what comes after 'FULL RETARD'?
5000° celsius as your high?
At least!
http://thebulletin.org/what-would-happen-if-800-kiloton-nuclear-warhead-...
After "full retard" we go back to a 5 mph world with 45 year life expectancy.
Obamacare will do the latter already. Thank SCOTUS, CON-GresZ and their puppetmasters.
NoDecaf your number projections are rather optimistic.
The full reset so many here are hoping for???
what comes after 'FULL RETARD'?
usually, ashes.
What is so weird is when Obola was "installed" in 2008 or whenever it was - I really had the feeling that the USSA would end up going broke and imploding like the old USSR.
Where the officer corp of the Soviet military were out of a job. They did not want to go back to Russia because East Germany was preferable. There was no money to bring them back from the old DDR or even Siberia.
Soviet pensioners had nothing. People begging and living in subways by the thousands.
The intel types in the old USSR survived. Sadly, I doubt the reboot will be much better. People like Lois Lerner and others need to be facing a guilotine plus the Fed and most of Wal Street. And let us not forget Jon Corzine.
US public majority = sheeple
Its all or nothing for the satanic new world fucked up order....
Sorry, the honor is mine. I have already decared war. Zerohedge, you do not have to participate if you are not ready...
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Please restore my original userid "thinair" or let me know which policy I have violated. You do not have to worry about any policies as even the President knows it now.
Or tell me what are you worried about.
follow the money to the southern hemi
The writer is hubristic and naive about the capabilities of Russian anti-missile defenses. It's a stupidly dangerous position to hold if you're in any position to cause an action that might result in the utter fallicy of the position being revealed. Fortunately, the writer is a RT.com "journalist" who probably wouldn't know which end of an ICBM to point up. I will say one thing, however, the point about missiles vs ships is correct. However, blow up somebody's capital ship or ships, and you may get to test your ABM system. You won't like how it works. Not one bit.
MAD is alive and well. Decoys and shear numbers of inbound weapons can easily overwhelm any defensive system. I dunno maybe Tyler Durden is russian.
of course, that assumes no one is sending 'shear numbers' in your direction.
the trouble with you amis is that you have always had superior numbers when attacking camel herders, rice farmers, sheep herders et al.
this time the 'enemy' is going to fire back.
can you comprehend that.
how simply does it have to be said.
$100MM HMS Sheffield, meet $100K Exocet.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-04-28/cyber-attacks-are-new-cold-war
Cyber-Attacks Are The New Cold War
"The warfare ideology today is ‘Multilateral Unconstrained Disruption’ (MUD). This unrestrictive warfare is meant to disrupt societal functioning; to ‘poison’ information to elevate distrust of all computer information."
Obviously, the established systems of MADNESS have NOT actually gone away. The political economy is still based on the enforced frauds of the MAD monetary system, which are still backed up by the MAD military system, HOWEVER, we are now watching more and more MUD thrown around on top of that MADNESS. Backing up lies with violence with technologies trillions of times more powerful and capable is the manifestation of the oxymoronic "scientific dictatorship," which is actually as profoundly unscientific about itself as it can possibly be. The same problem now applies to another classic oxymoron, "military intelligence."
Thousands of years of the history of warfare whose successes were based on deceits and treacheries have driven those kinds of successes to become runaway criminal insanities, which automatically become more psychotic the more socially successful those systems of being able to back up lies with violence become. Generation after generation, after generation, the social successfulness of operating systems of organized lies and robberies, becoming more sophisticated systems of enforced frauds, have driven too many of the people doing that to be such extreme manifestations of professional liars and immaculate hypocrites, that they tend to believe in their own bullshit. As far as I can tell from their public performances, most of the American Military and militarized police are professional hypocrites. While that used to work well enough in the past for them, that is no longer such a socially successful strategy, but rather has become increasingly morbid psychological and political habit.
That is the overall context in which there have developed monetary systems based on electronic frauds, whose enforcement includes every possible weapon of mass destruction that could be developed due to progress in physical sciences, being applied to become better at backing up lies with violence, which now includes the new doctrine of MUD piled deeper and splashed around over all of the previously existing MADNESS. Indeed, at the present time, political "progress" amounts to spraying MUD on top of MADNESS.
sources for this 'stupidly dangerous postion ??
Russian intelligence identified as early as the dawn of the new millennium that the weapons of the future would be missiles
BINGO! Somebody "gets it". Russia long ago realized that missile technology was their way to gain a defense against America, who spend their technological effort on manned aircraft, drones, Air Craft Carriers, and cruise missiles, and smart bombs.
Russia has spent their money and greatest minds on missile technology for 20 years now, the dividends are now coming in. From all classes of anti aircraft missiles. The brand new MANPADS, the brand new TOR-M2U with a super missile now mounted on the mobile platforms. S-400 and S-500, these two have been the crowning glory of vast money and technological efforts. Russia spends no money on empire and no money on wars, the USA spends trillions on these! Thus Russia can use military spending to engineer and build weapons second to none.
It's not that Russia is better than the USA , it is that Russia has concentrated their efforts on missiles, while the USA invades and occupies Iraq. See the difference?
We have Opra and Caitlyn Jenner.
Jack not to mention the idiots that make up the generation going to secondary schools now. And the fact that all the graduate programs are full of foreign students. There will be a huge brain vacum and not only nobody to learn but nobody to teach when all these foreigners go back to China or India or just give the secrets of what they have been working on when they go home on vacation. USA pays for RandD and the Chinese and Indians get it for freeeee.
The other key is software development for these modern weapons. The Russians are among the best software developers in the world.
Meanwhile, the F-35 has at least 10 million lines of software code and is probably unflyable. The code supposedly is still not finished.
"it is that Russia has concentrated their efforts on missiles, while the USA invades and occupies Iraq. "
that qualifies as better, imo.
better thinking
better grasp of reality
better relations with neighbors
better learning from mistakes
better learning from history
So we’re talking about the unthinkable here; a pre-emptive nuclear strike against Russia
Another secret to modern Russian missile systems, is they are nearly all mobile. They move every day, every hour, or even can shoot on the move, some of them. America can not attack a force that never stays in one place. The people in the pentagon talking about first strike are totally fucking nuts, and will get us all killed.
"... will get us all killed."
And one of the Russian's mobile systems can actually shoot its load while moving at 12 mph through the steppes of Central Asia. (wink wink).
Seriously, Jack, the neocons gave up on a nuclear first strike several years ago. It was replaced by causing the destruction of the Russian economy with sanctions. We've seen how successful that turned out be
We're all curious about what Vlad said to Barry today. My guess is that Vlad told Barry if BO doesn't lose some of those NATO troops along Russia's border something big's gonna happen.
Or maybe Russia is going declare war on Ukraine and Putin is telling BO to get foreign troops and advisors out of harms way.
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The Russians have been forced to use their funds more wisely since they have less of them.The US wastes huge amounts of funds, on stupid things. Unfortunately the US and the West have assumed that their designs and systems are inherently superior because they are so expensive. The Russians probably start out from the assumption that Western systems are superior and thought through how to defeat them anyway...
Historically, they have also been forced to engineer things to work even if their manufacture is substandard - Soviet manufacture was certainly that, but the engineers would take that into account, whereas Western designs would not work at all without the precision - a prime example is the AK-47 which you can cover in mud and it still works, wheren the AR-15 would jam easily.
These days, I suspect both Russian and Chinese military grade manufacturing is *quite* good - the techniques for quality control are easily available, and not all that hard to adapt.
The kicker is that they probably still overdesign their weapons systems, making them pretty robust, whereas Western kit probably engineers right to the edge in order to save money (and make more profit for the MIC).
Someone posted this about Russia, the Crimea and Ukraine coup. What is amazing is how Putin on camera is totally transparent that Russia want to save Yankovich's life and protect the people of the Crimea. Plus also give them the right to decide whether or not they returned to Russia.
No speksperson. No doble talk. No horseface phony like Kerry lying and spinning. No cover up. No freedom of information request. No redacting or emails erased. Putin tells it the way it was without a script or teleprompter or spinner.
It is really astonishing.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cea_1427295035
I have not finished watching all of it.
I hope that video gets a much wider circulation. That should be a whole thread on its own. Nice find.
ASH CARTER WORKED FOR MITRE CORP.
FULL STOP.
MITRE CORP IS UP THERE WITH A FEW OTHER SUPER DANGEROUS CIA PUBLIC PRIVATE CREATIONS USED TO RUN BLACK OPS AND SPY ON ALL GOVERNMENT AND NON-GOVERNEMTN OFFICIALS.
Nukes flying in 1st world countries would be bad for hard assets (looking at this from an elite perspective).
On the other hand, sabre rattling is great for the MIC and banks
What's your view on Geo-politiics?
If you believe what's dished up in the main-stream then Putin is a threat & a monster. China too.
If not, then the thought that this is scaremongering meant to rally round the MIC ... comes to mind.
Let's see, in examining the last 100 years of U.S. history, how many wars were absolutely, positively needed to defend an imminent invasion or attack of U.S. soil? And oh, important caveat ..... not a self induced false flag, e.g. USS Maine, liner Lusitania, Pearl Harbor, Cold War with Russia, Gulf of Tonkin, 9/11, WMD-Iraq, Drug Wars, Terrorism (what's next .... Alien invasion?)
serious as a heart attack. as a distraction from immanent econ collapse the central bankers have prepared their false flag nuke for the peripheral states. they have of course, used an isotope which can be traced back to soviet era weapons which they purchased on the black market with cia help in the early nineties..for quite a reasonable price i might add.
crazy bunker dwelling puppetmasters manipulating greedy lackys to kill the planet. all good here. thanks for the fish.
There isn't going to be a preemptive nuclear strike on russia... what stupid hyperbole. 1 star.
During the history of the previous Cold War, that almost went hot many times. Twice it was only the decision of one Russian officer that stopped that. MADLY dancing along the precipice could lead to somehow falling over the edge, after which there would be no going back!
Even though the Deep State is probably just posturing, even a tiny black swan can accidentally blow up into a real war.
As RM just said, when you are talking about nuclear war, dancing near the edge of the precipice is not wise...
Um, Hi everybody but did you see where this article comes from? This is from RT.com. That is a site published by none other than the government of Russia itself. Why should we believe anything they say?
Because they are More Credible than Western media sources.
Seriously can we get a respectable article from like PBS or Voice of America or something????
Maybe Brian Williams can do a special report at MSNBC on this?
duhh what would you suggest?
I must reiterate my agreement with Paul Craig Roberts' assertion that NATO Must be dismantled to avoid provoking War with Russia.
/www.endofworld.com
[…] The nation state has decayed and individuals live lives of quiet desperation connected merely through the computer ( e.g Facebook ) where people attempt to re-present themselves.
The message is quite clear in all the novels: Europe is dying in decadent and complacent apathy."
— Karl Naylor, Some Thoughts on Michel Houellebecq and The Decay of the West.
Obamma == Homo with a Syphillis eaten brain (if there is any left)
Age <= 16
To further debunk the idea of "MAD" making a nuclear war impossible (due to nuclear winter, ratiation, complete extinction of life planet, etc) all it takes is some basic math - consider the following:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_weapons_tests
Quoting the article -
"As of 1993, worldwide, 520 atmospheric nuclear explosions (including 8 underwater) have been conducted with a total yield of 545 Megaton(Mt): 217 Mt from fission and 328 Mt from fusion"
.. So since ~1945 over 500 nukes have been set off ABOVE ground with significant quantity of megatons. .. last I checked the sun still rises every day and lots of organic life populating the planet.
Say you're one of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, today in 2015, trying to figure things out, I think it's safe to assume you've got a 500 weapon budget, that you know you can get away with, without doing significant ecological damage. Far from a MAD scenario if you ask me. . 500 nukes have already been set off in our lifetime, no harm, no foul. The generals are probably kicking themselves for not having attacked pre-emptively sooner.
I've read some tactical nukes have yields as low as 1 kiloton.. so you fire off 5000 of those and you'd only have spent 5 megatons if I'm doing the math right. That 5 megatons is only 1% of the amount of nukes set off in the cold war 'atmospheric testing' era.
yup you are in general disarray.
maybe you should be a pentagram advisor... or worse yet you may already be one.
you people are soooooo stupid.
yup you are in general disarray.
maybe you should be a pentagram advisor... or worse yet you may already be one.
you people are soooooo stupid.
yeah, and the fukushima meltouts on top, chernobyl dead zone is a happy environment blablabla.
bad to mention the sun, it will rise no matter how nuclear earth is.
heard of some ocean animals doing mass suicide lately in the pacific?
"without doing significant ecological damage."
add some extra chemical accidents over the last decades, bophal for example, ddt poisoning worldwide etc etc etc.
global warming on top of it all
bad idea to test your idea on ze one earth we have
The problem with your reasoning is that the use of tactical nuclear weapons presents not a math problen, but a control problem. Once nukes are launched, the risk of escalation is likely beyond control - don't expect people to make rational decisions when faced with a nuclear attack wiping out their army - they will end up throwing everything they have at you.
Well, I'd like to provide a link:
http://www.atmos-chem-phys.net/7/1973/2007/acp-7-1973-2007.pdf
"Atmospheric effects and societal consequences of regional scale nuclear conflicts and acts of individual nuclear terrorism" , by O. B. Toon, R. P. Turco, A. Robock, C. Bardeen, L. Oman, and G. L. Stenchikov Atmos. Chem. Phys., 7, 1973-2002, 2007
"In only fifteen years Russia has jumped two generations ahead of the US on missiles and may be on the verge of a first strike nuclear capacity, while the US can’t retaliate because the Pentagon can’t get through the S-500s."
Never go full retard. I haven't read anything that crazy since I read an article posted by a North Korean about how North Korea could easily beat the U.S. in a war.
you can think about it while you're turning to toast.
no more place to hide
You obviously haven't kept yourself informed about Russian advances in missile technology where they have a huge advantage over the West in technology. And now they are going into gield testing of weapons to completely disable satellite targetting capability of the enemy's radar and electronic guidance systems. When this stuff goes on-line, they won't even need the S-500s.
Silly Americans just can't seem to see that the woprld around them is changing fast. They are unknowingly losing their powerful middle class, their infrastructure and their freedoms. They still consider themselves the exceptional nation that is so far advanced of other countries that they needn't even bother looking around. This will be their Achilles Heel - ignorant over-confidence and hubris.
and that is why you are called as Muritards thick cunt .
Ash Carter is a very dangerous man. He is one of these ivory tower academics whose only real work has been in government think tanks that focus on how to kill people. If you watch him in action you will see that he is currently ENRAGING the Iraqi government by insulting them and saying that partitioning the country of Iraq is the best solution. Even if Carter is correct or partially correct the fact is that in the Middle East insulting people usually leads to them spitting in your face or pulling a knife/gun on you. In the case of Iraq - with 10% of the world's known oil and gas reserves - he has basically driven them 100% into the arms of the Russians and Iranians in a matter of days.
The current US Federal Government is the Clear and Present Danger to the American people. The Executive Branch and Judiciary and Legislatures must be removed and replaced.
there is no difference between cuba and ucraine strategically, only changed side.
and everyone ignores the fact that russia gave germany back east-germany and there was widespread news then to keep ucraine "american-free"
maybe they were down at that time but they could have done 1000s of other things
i am ashamed of germans now pushing in ucraine.
they should be the first to stop this shit pressing, but they are happy to hide behind nato, europe and the bigger brother.
and i wonder that really noone mentions that
+1 And I wonder that nobody but Russia brings up Kosovo.
Quick, remind the Bushs ......
You can dodge the draft but you can't dodge nuclear fallout.
Pepe works with these guys and gals:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/24/russian-troll-factory-sued-...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-3107197/Ex-Kremlin-Internet-...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3138847/Putin-s-secret-troll-fac...
You work for these guys
http://www.image.kg/images/2014/09/18/su4j.jpg
And yes your sources dailymail and guardian are quite legit isnt it ? Anglosaxons douchebags .
Pepe has been out there long before troll factories were ever dreamed up. Check out his archives on The Asia Times. He is one of the Angry Young Men who now has some silver in his beard but has lost none of the invective. Definitely one to read.
USSA: Planet's #1 Nuclear-Armed Rogue Regime
- courtesy of the NeoCON/Bolsheviks and their Pentagon Rent-A-GOONs.
It was putin regime who started to threat with nuclear war to west. It started with Crimea occupation and annexation.
Putin says he was ready to put Russian troops on nuclear alert over Crimea
Russia threatens Denmark with nuclear weapons if it tries to join Nato defence shieldZH as putin regime propaganda channel has failed again.
Troll you miserable three-kopek.
What you are saying now is just an echo of someone else's fart. Alas, even with your brain enfeebled, you can get more useful work, community service, sweep the driveway (the neighbors will be pleased). Your hosts, nothing you can get paid for what you do badly.
Ahhh my trusty slimy puppy aka putin regime paid troll stoogie is again near my feet leaving his smell at my comment. That is for he is paid for. Nothing harmful. Now go on - shuu shuu.
Rejoice that you're stupid and didn't even realize it.
It is your style, inimitable, bordering on idiocy.
crawl back in your Troll cave You NSA CIA of whatever puppet.
THIS ARTICLE is a real piece of crap. Putin is so stupid, one year ago, he owned Ukraine. Now, it is lost forever, he can't even bury his deceased soldiers in public in Holy Mother Russia.
Russia has no bright minds working on any technology, surely nothing intricate. They leave for real jobs, even
Belarus has better jobs than RF. Putin is a complete coward, attacking Georgia, Ukraine, etc.... HIs 'popularity' is false, no Russians want to fight a war with Ukraine. He can keep up his little cowardly game for a few yrs, but for what benefit? Russia is disintegrating under his reign.
where you born yesterday? The Ukraine is on life support and they have not paid their electric bill for months
You must ride the short bus to school
How do you come up with such idiotic nonsense?
Hahahah whatever helps you sleep ignorant muritard.
Consider retaking Propaganda 101.
Soon putin regime will turn Russia as China colony - piece by piece.
Now putin regime gives away Russia land for less than 5 $ for hectar to Chinese where they will send their population in for 49 years build their infrastructure and that all will happen on teritory where is Russia and China border. Of course there will be even more Chinese than now after those 49 years. They will have "referendum" to join China :D ha ha ha ha
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/06/21/world-view-russia-...
Poor poor ruskies. They have traitor as leader and whole system is corrupt till core. But that is what they deserve.
<-- NSA stooge
<-- GCHQ stooge
18 week member with website stopputinregime!
Part of our $5 Billion, I suspect.
Such nonsense may compose only a dense ignorant ignoramus, and a faithful follower of the State Department.
you read this off the back of WHICH breakfast Cereal box?
Breitbart's Crazy Oaty-O's
Always entertaining! ROFL!
You, Sir or Madam, are an idiot.
Latvian troll, a.k.a. viedoklis_lv, a.k.a. freedom123, a.k.a. newsoutlet
A little chest-thumping propaganda piece from RT (their confidence in the S-500 reminds me of the puff pieces you get in US media about the unsinkable [read: disturbingly easy to sink] carriers).
There's no evidence that the S-500 is effective against ballistic missiles; likewise for the US systems (like AEGIS).
But sooner or later, and most unfortunately for the peace of the world, someone will develop such systems.
...and then have a terrible temptation to launch a first strike, knowing they can survive the response.
This will almost certainly be the US, just based on the amount of money the US spends on research compared to Russia.
Total US military spending is a bit over 8x that of Russia, for instance.
The KSA spends more than Russia.
tl;dr -- MAD still in effect (for a while yet anyway) climb down off the windowsill
does it take much effort to be a moron wilmpt ? Ignorance is bliss douchebag muritard . " effective against ballistic missiles " ? lol idiot aegis bmd is efeective against ballistic missiles that too with predicted flight path means non maneuvwrable meanwhile s-500 is for icbms and hypersonic missiles . le that sink in hard genius .
usa spends 8 times more than russia on its military budget and they still cant produce decent weapons . usa spends more to stretch its hogwashed hollow broken empire of chaos . Consider yourself educated now idiot .
I remember a story, whether it be true I have no idea.
During the space race nasa and their Russian counterparts were developing a writing implement to use in zero gravity
American scientists spent millions in the development of a pen that would work in space, when asked what do Russian cosmonauts use they replied a 'pencil' ! My point is 'it's not about the money but rather the thinking behind it'. In this respect the Russian mind in my opinion is superior.
The west has had its day. The power now falls to the east 'It is, as it should be'
When your resources are scarse you tend to 'think harder'. in certain mind sets its the money that does the thinking. We in the west are onto a loser irespective of the 'Globalist' mentality.
RT... ie Russian Psyops. Not saying it is all wrong or false but you need to take it with a very big grain of salt esp. the Russia is totally superior deal.
oh, FFS-you need to take OUR media with a few 20 lbs bags of salt.
All the media is biased. I read RT to counter CNN. And if you know their biases, you can work with that.
What became of the 'Neutron Bomb' ? or is that to sissy a weapon now.
The Washington freaks are playing chess with a 'Grand Master' . Ironic I see Russia as a haven, should I do a 'Snowden'. Pack my camper van and visit as a tourist.
Have just enrolled to learn Russian and Chinese language whilst unfolding a map of the 'Sprately Island' I hear it has lovely beaches cool chics and free 'Initial flash' dark glasses. I can watch from the safety of the beech wearing 'said' glasses and enjoy the barbecue of 'Man'
Maybe "We the people" can thank their USA political and financial leaders in person for the succesful renewal of the cold war?
Job good done! Results are here (for once)....
I have just revealed myself as a 'Full Card Carrying Humen Being'
The fucks who run this show reveal, that no longer is that card a valid permit to exist ,.
So if Putin can H-bomb Wall Street and DC and get away with it, what is he waiting for?
Get rid of Uncle Sugar before he gets rid of the human race.
Russia's SS-27 Makes Bush's Missile Defense A Fantasy
http://www.rense.com/general69/tiddosdzdd27makes.htm
http://tass.ru/en/russia/757791
Not all missiles fly through the air.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VA-111_Shkval
"Mein Fuhrer! I can walk!"
(cue obligatory "We'll Meet Again" mushroom cloud montage)
This new cold war is another buy-signal, right?
>> That set up the stage for the required Nazi parallel; “Some of the actions by Russia recently we haven’t seen since the 1930s, when whole countries were annexed and borders were changed by decree.”
Yes we have. 1990, when the Germans annexed DDR without any referendum.