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Putin Unexpectedly Calls Obama: What Did They Talk About?
Nearly a year since the last phone call between Obama and Putin, most of which happened at the request of the US president to provide sound-ops for the US media as part of the US "pacifist" intervention in the Ukraine civil war instigated by the US State Department, earlier today in an unexpected development, it was Putin who made an impromptu phone call to Obama.
This is what the Kremlin stated was the official purpose of Putin's phone call:
Vladimir Putin had a telephone conversation with President of the United States of America Barack Obama.
In particular, the two leaders discussed the Ukrainian crisis and the fulfilment of the Minsk Agreements. The Presidents agreed that US Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Grigory Karasin will be in contact to discuss implementation of these agreements.
Significant attention was given during the discussion to a set of issues pertaining to fighting terrorism, particularly the spread of influence by the “Islamic State” group in the Middle East. Vladimir Putin and Barack Obama agreed to instruct Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and US Secretary of State John Kerry to hold a meeting to discuss this issue.
In addition, the presidents of Russia and the US had an extensive discussion of current issues in bilateral relations. They also engaged in a detailed exchange of opinions concerning the situation in Syria and touched on settling the issue of the Iranian nuclear programme.
So why really did Putin call Obama?
The underlying reason may well have to do with what we discussed three weeks ago in "The Noose Around Syria's Assad Tightens" a post which we left off with two rhetorical questions: i) what is the maximum pain level for Russia, which has the greatest vested in interest in preserving the Assad regime in place, and when does Putin finally get involved, and ii) how.
Perhaps Putin gave an answer on i) or ii), or both, to Obama in the phone call. Curiously, speaking of US support for ISIS as a front to topple Assad, just a few hours before Putin's phone call, the WSJ reported an even more outlandish conspiracy theory:
In a tent city under a highway overpass in Baghdad, refugees from Iraq’s Sunni province of Anbar were unanimous about whom to blame for their misery.
“I hold Americans responsible for destroying Anbar,” said former policeman Wassem Khaled, whose home was taken over by Islamic State, or ISIS, after the Iraqi army fled from Anbar’s provincial capital of Ramadi last month.
“We all know that America is providing ISIS with weapons and food, and that it is because of American backing that they have become so strong,” added Abbas Hashem, a 50-year-old who also escaped from Ramadi and now lives in the makeshift Baghdad camp that is only occasionally supplied with water.
Such conspiracy theories about America’s support for Islamic State are outlandish, no doubt. But they are so widespread that they now represent a political reality with real-world consequences—making it harder for the U.S. and allies to cobble together Iraqi forces that could regain the country’s Sunni heartland from Islamic State’s murderous rule one day.
Outlandish, sure. But when is the last time the US supported a local murderous insurgency just to achieve some ulterior regime-change model. We ask, of course, rhetorically.
So with that in mind, could the real conversation between Putin and Obama have been a simple quid-pro-quo of the sort: you let us keep Assad, and we won't bail out Greece jointly with China and plant a Russian naval base in Piraeus, right next to the brand new Chinese military base, smack in the middle of a NATO country, leading to the biggest diplomatic headache for a US administration since deciding how to pass of a vial full of innocuous white powder as a weapon of mass destruction and a pretext to invade Iraq in the middle of the UN assembly.
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Talked about Obamas shitty golf, chess, tic tac toe, and checkers games.
No, the question is... Did Putin REALLY call OBAMA, or is this just another bullshit story?...
I'll bet Putin offered to take off his shirt again if Obama promised to keep his hands out his pants.
Here's the link (as above)... You decide
Telephone conversation with President of the US Barack ObamaVladimir Putin had a telephone conversation with President of the United States of America Barack Obama.
June 26, 201501:20
In particular, the two leaders discussed the Ukrainian crisis and the fulfilment of the Minsk Agreements. The Presidents agreed that US Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Grigory Karasin will be in contact to discuss implementation of these agreements.
Significant attention was given during the discussion to a set of issues pertaining to fighting terrorism, particularly the spread of influence by the “Islamic State” group in the Middle East. Vladimir Putin and Barack Obama agreed to instruct Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and US Secretary of State John Kerry to hold a meeting to discuss this issue.
In addition, the presidents of Russia and the US had an extensive discussion of current issues in bilateral relations. They also engaged in a detailed exchange of opinions concerning the situation in Syria and touched on settling the issue of the Iranian nuclear programme.
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I mean, FFS... Do you REALLY think that Obama has any thoughts on ANYTHING? (notwithstanding these issues)... that isn't scripted?
Obama: "Hello, this is the president."
Putin: "Hello Barack. Is there an adult I can speak with?"
They talked about the prophet Muhammad, and the coming of the Madi.
What are you talking about?
"We are the change that we are looking for."
The Mahdi is already in the (White) house.
No BFD..
Putin told the other guy..
You ain’t going to F our Med port..
End of story
Scooby Dooby Doo loves el Presidente
Loves him like his daddy
And if you-be-doo are like Scooby Doo
You'll love him like your mother.
gee.. you'd think he woulda dropped a dime to Jay Rockefeller, Zbigniew Brzezi?ski, Heinz Kissinger, thebritish or Dutch royals, Soros, even Daddy Bush's / Clintons? shit any of the puppet masters that control the agenda. Why talk to a muppet? He even knew 'W' was a muppet for the NWO
Pretty close. Just day ago Saudis made a surprise visit to the Tzar. Probably they brought word of mouth so terrible that electronic systems weren't trusted to carry it.
Exactly - there is something in the wind...
Apparently Khazarian mafia running the so-called West has stolen all Saudi gold from London and Switzerland where Saudis had it placed for "safekeeping." And not a small amount too, over 10.000 tons of gold!
Putin: Hi, is your refrigerator running?
Obama: Um, excuse me?
Putin: Is. Your. Refrigerator. Running?
Obama: Uh, yes, I think it is.
Putin: Well you better go catch it! Ha ha <click>
(I can do this same routine for Prince Albert in a can, by the way)
Well, POTUS did owe him a call after the election...he said it would be easier to get things done then...
putin was just uninviting obummer from all future parties in russia, saudi arabia, and china.
You forgot Armenia, where "somebody" started a color revolution.
How juvenile.
I prefer to call bars and ask if Mike Hunt is there.
Juvenile, hell; I called our receptionist when I was 26 and had him paged over intercom.
The real conversation between Putin and Obama went like this:
Putin: Hello, Barack.
Obama: Hello, Mr Putin.
Putin: I want to talk to Valerie.
Obama: Yes sir, I'll connect you.
They might have talked about this.
http://rt.com/news/269881-ex-pm-primakov-dies/
I was pretty sure Obama had no idea about any of these topics. You beat me to it. Well done.
They lie about everything. Why would they lie about this?
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission.
And I'm gone.
Please do not mention that cocksuckers name (O) it makes me sick , that ignorant Marxist trash makes me sick.
I find myself doubting you look like that!
...and the unpaid hotel bill from his last visit.
Putin - "Good Afternoon Is that the Walls?"
Obama - "No, sorry I think you got the wrong folks"
Putin - "So there are no Walls in your house?"
Obama - "No Sir'ee. Ain't got no Walls in this house"
Putin - "Then what the fuck holds your roof up?"
Obama -"...................."
Dial Tone-------------------------------
I wonder if Putin made a joke about the prospect of Obama being replaced by Hillary. Replaced by the old bitch.
Anniversary of Korean war. POTUS and Putin lots of yucks.. MIC CFR UN Jobs program.... Just a conspiracy nut..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KF4JxvE-ckc
I like option 3. Since it was Putin that initated the phone call, i''m saying that Obama told him one of two things;
Kiss the ring or
Stick to the script.
"The ring! You gotta toss the ring into the fire!"
"But ... but ... I ain't got no ring, here."
"Then toss the fat lady into the fire!"
(Who finds sarcasm may keep it)
Given the depths of the relationship, I am wondering if Putin and Obama are really relevant as a two who can accomplish anything together. Obama has no control over the NATO command, the pentagon, the CIA, the Neoconservative congress, the Israeli Lobby and Tel Aviv. Obama can say what he likes to Putin, but the facts are made by what NATO does, what US CIA supplies to Kiev, what arms NATO brings up to Russia's border. Obama is a minor player, a puppet for the Deep State. Putin does indeed wield real power, but not nearly as much as the simple minded Americans think. Russia actually does have a deomocracy and a Parliament and many various parties. In fact, Putin is locked in a political stuggle with several different elements.
A phone call is nice I guess. But I give their abilit to do anything a very low probability. People need to understand the Deep State in America and how little real power a president has. Congress is a mirror for the Deep State, they act as agents of the Deep State, passing the laws the Deep State wants. Russia used to have a deep state during Soviet Times, but as of today, they Deep State is fairly weak and at odds with each other. Putin is the element that holds them together. But he is in a deeply split political Parliament and has a Central Bank he can hardly control.
True - Deep state works for the globalists. Deep state runs the show. In the US version of the alternative NWo manipulated world we could be talking about President McCain and the shit he just dictated, identical to obummer. Would be the same.
NWO delende est
"How's the submarine?"
"Dunno how's yours?"
i awoke early today convinced that with all of the media trash talk about Vlad that a Nuke will be the next and perhaps last false flag op by obozo and horse face kerry's puppet masters.
what color was the phone?
not good...Putin called to stipulate something big
Yes it was something big. That doesn't necessarily mean 'not good'.
maybe who should have won American Idol?
or maybe this: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-25/pentagon-goes-nuclear-russia
"Such conspiracy theories about America’s support for Islamic State are outlandish, no doubt."
Really?
You might need to get your sarcasm detector serviced Jorgen.
Knowing what we do about Obama, can anyone think of a reason why anyone would call him?
I heard that since Rahm was back with the old boyz from Roscoe's in Chicago, he doesn't even call Barry anymore. Sad.
Negotiating with him not to cause damage to someone?
Desperate girls on Sadie Hawkins Day?
"Hey Jackass, I mean Gospadin Obama. I am calling to tell you that Tsipras and I found that we were both very fond of Ouzo (we also found that mixing it with Horilka was even much better) and after much drinking, the Russian Federation has decided to buy Greece as a resort for our oligarchs' winter holidays. Of course, to guard our most wealthy citizens, the Russian Federation is sending along several thousand military guards to make sure that our citizens can enjoy their new playground without interference from those who might wish them harm. Let me make this clear, these armed individuals are for the security of our citizens throughout Greece and are in no way to be interpreted as a force threatening in any way to Western interests in the area. Just thought I'd call you as a courtesy before the morning's news cycle and give you the news personally since I deeply respect your continued friendship. Do Svidaniya Mr. President. Spokoyna nochi vy durak svinya!"
Why does Tyler post this shyte? Competition for the onion website?
Clues.
Why does Tyler post this shyte? Competition for the onion website?
Putin wanted Barry's ideas about betting on next years March Madness. What else could it be?
Who gives a flying FUCK??
Saving everybody some time here: Wikipedia page for the official list of Bart Simpson prank phone calls:
https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/List_of_Simpsons_Prank_Calls
Hello my dear
Have a Bear
er.. Beer
Now Obama must call David Rockerfeller that eventually will call Evelyn De Rothschild to finally reach an agreement.
"So with that in mind, could the real conversation between Putin and Obama have been a simple quid-pro-quo of the sort: you let us keep Assad, and we won't bail out Greece jointly with China and plant a Russian naval base in Piraeus, right next to the brand new Chinese military base, smack in the middle of a NATO country, blah blah blah"
naively wishful american thinking.
and this:
"WSJ on ISIS "an even more outlandish conspiracy theory: "
you forgot the /s tag on this one.
He could have called Obama to say the OSCE monitors are reporting a big build-up of troops in the Donetsk area in violation of Minsk and if Poroshenko doesn't pull them back we will be forced, under a declaration of war (or not), to remove their threat to the people of Donbass.
The beginning of this round of problems isn't February 2014. Or December 2013. No, June 2013, when Edward Snowden landed in Russia was the starting point. The only players who know what Snowden got away with are Snowden and members of the FSB. Not even the NSA knew.
After Snowden, Russia was beset with the Arctic Sunrise, the ill treatment of their Ambassador to The Hague, and the West's lectures on the importance of same-sex marriages.
Then the illegitimate coup. there were elections and referendums. Crimea belonged to Russia and Ukraine belonged to the West. All the West's Horses and all the West's men tried to put Crimea back together again. Russia created the Donbass buffer zone to prevent a direct bombardment and invasion of Crimea.
When Russia, or any country, achieves a masterstroke like the arrival of Edward Snowden with laptop full of secrets, and conventional or nuclear war is not an option to punish the theft, the injured state is reduced to little mean acts like manhandling Russia's deputy Ambassador and ordering Greenpeace to attempt to take over a Russian drilling platform and go to jail in Murmansk for it.
The aggressor really should be prepared to take these small return swats for quite a while, until enough time passes and the injured nation forgets how serious the injury was.
Today's phone call to Obama is probably an ultimatum about the size of NATO's troops on Russia's borders or Poroshenko's aggressive behavior after Minsk.
It could have to do with the ISS. Or perhaps that Russia and China will deposit $28bil into the Greek banking system next week.
Maybe we'll find out. Maybe we won't
We got ticked off when Putin pulled Yukos out of Western bankers' hands. If he pulls the rug out from under us with Greece, there is going to be a colossal hissy fit.
Got my popcorn. This could be good.
Who'd of thunk that a dozen puffy, fluffy kernels of corn could tip the balance between good and bad, happy and sad?
:o)..... )o:
I am dumbstruck.
A while back some important commenter at zh announced he was bored with Putin's confrontation with the West being compared to playing chess (I suppose because most Americans can't tell a bishop from a queen).
Anyway, that's exactly what's going on: a monster game of chess where people die and nations are reduced to rubble.
And the Slut of State shamelessly appears in the main square of capital cities just before hundreds of people die doing her bidding.
She should be declared non grata in the Balkans and along the Caspian Sea. And be forced to suck a carcinogenic cock.
No, she would enjoy that too much.
Plutonium french fries from McDonalds will sufice.
Putin: Mr. Obama, we are very concerned by the buildup of your troops on our borders.
Barry: Why don't we meet in the Banya to discuss this? I do my best work in bath houses!
Putin: Why don't you kiss my ass?
Barry: OK, it's a deal!
If you are Benjamin Netanyahu, press 1.
If you are Jon Stewart, press 2
If you are Tiger Woods, press 3.
If you are the Vladimir Putin, press # to speak to an operator.
"Sup Bama!, hey, was just talkin' to my buddy king Salman...."
"[Putin]...you let us keep Assad, and we won't bail out Greece jointly with China and plant a Russian naval base in Piraeus, right next to the brand new Chinese military base, smack in the middle of a NATO country"
Will there come a time quite soon when Putin switches from wanting to keep Assad in place to bailing Greece out and wanting a naval base in Piraeus? I should have thought the latter is very tempting.
Why choose? Why shouldn't Russia take all options? Also, Greece has a long coastline - plenty of room for everybody. Greece can stay neutral in the new world order and charge high rents to all takers.
The idea was to do a deal with the US to avoid confrontation.
To avoid confrontation, yes, but not to kiss the ring.
If Assad departs it hurts Iran, one of Russia's most powerful allies.
No doubt Washington controls ISIS. But remember the rank and file ISIS terrorist doesn't know he is working for Obama.
Washington's control of ISIS is by a dozen of ISIS's leaders.
Maybe the fact that ISIS (Daesh) declared a governate in the North Caucasus region of Russia three days ago?
http://understandingwar.org/backgrounder/isis-declares-governorate-russi...
That, and I'll raise you a decapitated head in France and USA negotiating to build a nuke power plant in Iran.
What interesting times we live in.
Don't you think it pertained to the 40,000 troops Jan Stoltenberg said NATO would put at Russia's border?
Tell your boss to go and f**k himself.
Putin: Barack, do you have a can of Prince Albert?
Obama: Yea I do.
Putin: Why don't you let him out.
Ciick.
I'm not quite so sure there is a trade-off here between Russia offering to stay out of Greece and the USA/ ISIS staying out of Syriza sorry Syria.
Max
Saudi Crown Prince just met with Putin in Russia. King will follow. Putin going go KSA. Russia to build 19 nuke reactors in KSA.
You knew KSA was getting thrown under the bus when that maid beheading and the number of people beheaded each year went viral. Looks like the Saudis fugured it out too.
maybe they had just spoken about how to distribute the wasted european area after the next war.
like geany and russia had spoken about poland before ww2
europeans are so stupid ourdays.......
Putin told Obama that Saudis are in and he (Obama) is out.
Putin could not possibly back off of Greece. I do not think Obama or the west controls ISIS any longer .Its a snowball effect caused by a catastrophic world collapse . My best guess is that he told Obama that he is going to support Greece and that if Obama and the west escalates the Ukrainian situation and violates the Minsk agreement he will attack and take over Kiev. He warned Washington that NATO is going to collapse with the Grexit and he warn Obama to not try to push the Ukraine situation alon
To the auther of this story; a small point I know but,
Why did you you refer to Vladimir Putin soley by name, but Barack Obama by his job title as well, is that meant as a slight to Mr. Putin, or do you think your readers have to have the full job description of Mr. Obama because they do not know him, or what he does, or is there another reason?
To me its a signal shit is coming to some kind of out of control climax.
Putin - Hey Bo, remember when you said you needed more time after you got re-elected?
Obama - Yes and now that I have unlimited global power from this TPP treaty, how can I hook you up?
The US may be supporting them indirectly through Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia is one of the largest financial supporters of Sunni terrrorists in the region. So, yes, we do support them by tacitly looking the other way when our "allies" do it. It's part of a larger war against Shiite's in the area.
It was just a one word conversation that being checkmate.
He spoke with the Pope recently as well. Perhaps he is offering a last olive branch to "Just Us".
If so, perhaps he and his staff already see checkmate of the west. Western checkmate may have a high probability of western oligarchs ordering their political minons to false flag / first strike while resting comfortably in their bunkers.
Since this is a game where all parties would be better off not playing to the end, offering a last olive branch makes sense.
Vladimir called to refuse Obongo's homo-advances! He is not a homo or Western libtard, so he called libtard ape to curse his degenerate, wicked, vile Western nature!
strategy
feeling each other out
deception
Putin has no fear of Obama, and knows he can probably navigate through a conversation without losing any advantage. Without a telepropter or a speech writer, Obama just becomes a regular inexperienced junior senator again.
"Putin unexpectedly calls Obama: What did they talk about?"
P: "Hey Barry, I heard Angie's making fun of you with Matteo and Alexis at another thread at ZH."
O: "Really?"
P: "Yeah, here ... http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-26/how-europe-tackles-its-debt-crisis-caption-contest#comment-6236955 "
O: "Oh yeah? Let me get my dawgs to blackmail that stormtrooper again."
Putin's recent words from a chat, he does not seem very happy: "All is a big game to control the world. And at the end of the day. All friends
They have taken us as slaves unhappy. They deceive, control our mind to not protest. They force us to seek ways that are out of law, lead us to misery, taking everything because we fought. Create chaos and destruction. Only interested in slaves. The big lie" But he also posted photos of himself with AK47 with the words: "Are you with me?" And then pictures of Kissinger, Rothschilds, Soros, Rockefeller and Dimon and said that he will send them some roses and something else with the roses: pretty Russian missiles.
oh and also a picture of David Rockefeller in that muslim towel on his head: Here you have the real islamist, terrorist.