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Leaking Las Vegas: Lake Mead At Record Lows, "We Have To Change"

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This is it, warns one water advocate, "it really does (make critical) the fact that we have to start changing." Lake Mead water levels have sunk to their lowest levels on record (below the levels when the dam was built) at 1075 feet. This is a major problem, as USA Today reports, since Las Vegas water authority's current "straws" glean water from 1,050 feet and 1,000 feet - leaving the first straw just 25 feet away from pulling in air. With the drought only set to get worse as the summer begins, the water wars are just beginning as Lower-basin states are still taking more than the river system can sustain.

 

 

Bad and getting worse...

 

As USA Today reports,

Lake Mead sunk to a record low Tuesday night, falling below the point that would trigger a water-supply shortage if the reservoir doesn't recover soon.

 

...in the long run, as a U.S. Bureau of Reclamation spokeswoman said, "We still need a lot more water."

 

The reservoir stores water for parts of Arizona, Southern California, southern Nevada and northern Mexico — all of which have endured a 15-year drought that continues.

 

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But Tuesday's record low signals that Colorado River water users consume more than the river provides, said water-policy manager Drew Beckwith of the Western Resource Advocates, a nonprofit environmental law and policy organization.

 

"This is the check-engine light," Beckwith said. "It really does (make critical) the fact that we have to start changing."

 

For Las Vegas, the record reinforces the need for a nearly $1.5 billion project to tap deeper into Lake Mead. The Southern Nevada Water Authority soon will complete a 3-mile tunnel that will suck water from an 860-foot elevation level. The plan also includes a pumping station.

 

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The water authority's current "straws" glean water from 1,050 feet and 1,000 feet. Lake Mead hovers around 1,075 feet Wednesday — leaving the first straw just 25 feet away from pulling in air.

 

Leaders launched the third intake project about 10 years ago, seeking to reach better-quality water at deeper depths. Water closer to the surface is warmer and requires more treatment to bring it to drinking quality, said Bronson Mack, a spokesman for the water authority.

 

 

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Drought or no drought, the Colorado River is over allocated, Beckwith said.

 

 

Lower-basin states take more than the river system can sustain.

 

 

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Fri, 06/26/2015 - 15:53 | 6238978 0b1knob
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We???????????

 

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 15:57 | 6238991 NotApplicable
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WHEEEE!!!!!

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:01 | 6239010 TheCanadianAustrian
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So, at this rate, Las Vegas has another 20 or so years before they run out of water?

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:06 | 6239019 Publicus
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Lake Powell, which feeds into Lake Mead is rising into record highs. So it's all just politics.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:17 | 6239060 Automatic Choke
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correct.  rockies have had pretty good snow pack last couple years.  and as long as the Powell/Mead system is still low, it is much smarter to be refilling Powell first, as it is narrower and deeper (as well as at higher elevation and thus cooler)....less evaporation.  those guys aren't dumb.

 

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:25 | 6239090 0b1knob
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Lake Powell info:

http://lakepowell.water-data.com

If you are curious.

 

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:58 | 6239206 Lore
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Now you understand why Bettmann wants to push a National Hockey League team in Las Vegas.  There's a long history of hockey culture there. Can you name all the hockey stars who hail from Las Vegas?  Anyone?  PLEASE?

Bettman says ticket sales drive in Las Vegas going 'extraordinarily well' (sportingnews.com, 21-Apr)

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 17:00 | 6239218 Manthong
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well, the upside is that the lake bed will make a great tanning bed for the desert  hookers.

And.. Harry Reid’s bridge looks over the new Death Valley.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 17:12 | 6239258 NoDebt
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I'm just waiting for the giant worms to come along that produce The Spice.  Then I can finally fold space and get off of Arrakis to start over somewhere else.

 

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 17:31 | 6239301 Manthong
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What a great meme..

But if you are real reel aficionado, you might discern the worm movements between spice and vibration.

:-D

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100814/

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087182/

 

and maybe the worms might be moving toward estrogen in that area..


 

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 17:39 | 6239340 General Decline
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Many crops in the Midwest are being decimated due to flooding. Drove through central & NW Indiana today. Looks very bad.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 18:40 | 6239532 knukles
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And everybody just yacks about how CA should dry off and die and the MW is flooded.
Crop problems anyone?
Just think of it.  Food wars.  Who'd a thunk. 

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 19:17 | 6239587 Creepy A. Cracker
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The water looks fine to me.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 19:17 | 6239664 Squid-puppets a...
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i remember a drought here in melbourne Australia about 5 yrs ago. Residents had their water rationed/restricted with large fines for non compliance. Meanwhile the coca-cola company was still allowed to take reticulated water for $0.0008c / litre and put it into 375ml mount franklin plastic bottles for sale for $2.50 ea. Did the govt ask them to pay extra for the more rare commodity? not a red cent

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 19:39 | 6239725 General Decline
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Last time I was in Australia I remember a lot of buildings collecting rain water for flushing toilets etc. my buddy lives in New Castle and his domestic water source is 100% rain water. (Sometimes has it trucked in if not much rain has fallen). I saw the rain water tanks in Brisbane and Sydney. Can't remember if I saw any in Melbourne.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 19:57 | 6239796 Scooby Dooby Doo
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Here we go again. Typing on the right margin. This readability sucks.

I can't read it on my Scooby-phone.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 22:18 | 6240204 Blythes Master
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Hint from Helouise: At the top of every thread here on Hero's Edge, there is a droopy menu to selct thread format, ergo, you have control over your own destiny, errrr, reading format.

You're welcome.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 20:37 | 6239915 NoDebt
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GD- that's illegal in the United States.  No, I'm not kidding.  The EPA (Environazi Police Agency) will be all over your ass with fines that run into the hundreds of thousands if you try that.  If you disconnect your residence from the electrical grid hey take your children away from you for being an unfit parent.

I wish I was kidding but it has actually happened.

 

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 21:35 | 6240085 General Decline
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Laws against collecting rain water are bullshit. All you are doing is delaying its arrival into the water shed. Whether u use it to water your garden, flush your toilet or wash your car, it all goes back to the Earth. Rain water collection laws are about control, not conservation.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 19:20 | 6239669 Bobbo
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Two birds with one stone:  Stop the Drought and Stop the Flooding.  BONUS: Stop the bitter cold in the East!

Stone: 

STOP THE AERSOL SPRAYING, ...
STOP THE CHEMTRAILS, ...
STOP THE "PERSISTENT CONTRAILS", ...
STOP THE UNMARKED WHITE AIRPLANES, ...
STOP THE 20,000,000 TONS/YEAR OF ALUMINUM, BARIUM, PLASTIC FILLAMENT MIX
STOP THE WEATHER ENGINEERING GOING ABOVE OVER ALL OF US

STOP PRETENDING IT ISN'T HAPPENING !!!

Two birds (and a bonus) with one stone.  Throw it.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 17:01 | 6239221 ajax
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Lake Mead riverbed looks perfect for the construction of more 'ex-urbs':

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/2012/07/05/Housing-Crisis-Could-E...

"It’s a two-hour drive from most jobs, has little public transportation, claims no downtown to speak of, and has few sidewalks"

Go for it America.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 18:06 | 6239414 two hoots
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This is what Greece keeps/kept saying but.......nooooo...........until they must. 

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 20:22 | 6239807 Scooby Dooby Doo
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The water table is basically untapped in Vegas area.

Everyone is focused on Lake Mead.

Drill babies!

http://www.lasvegasgmp.com/assets/pdf/shallowmap.pdf

10,20,30 feet

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 19:01 | 6239599 Whodathunkit
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And my company has a Climate change solution for a big ICE RINK in the desert.  CO2.  Refrigerate wave of the future.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:21 | 6239075 Thorny Xi
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Lake Powell is far from record highs. It's 53.18% full. Inflows over the past water year are 1% above average and the upper Colorado runoff is dropping fast.

http://lakepowell.water-data.com

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 17:04 | 6239238 Stumpy4516
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Correct about these not being close to record highs.  But Powell has risen 25 feet in just two months with more snow pack yet to come downstream. 

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:34 | 6239124 Paveway IV
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The low water levels help the effectiveness of the glyphosate, fluoride and scopolamine added to the Las Vegas water supply. EAT. OBEY. GAMBLE. BREED AUTISTIC CHILDREN.

It's totally necessary for the health of Americans anyways. Without the geo-engineered high pressure off the West Coast, all that fresh Fukushima radiation in the atmosphere is going to be detectable in just about anything grown in the central valley and people will freak out. People are eventually going to connect the alarming amounts of brain and stomach/intestinal cancer with radiation and start to get all pissy over nuclear energy again. Besides, who will grow uncontaminated food for Japan if California isn't able to?

Best to keep the radiation well out over the ocean to wash out of the jet-stream. Bonus algae bloom and domic acid levels kill all the contaminated fish, shrimp and some other oddball creatures so you don't have to specifically tell people not to eat any - they're already dead. 

Modern science - once again, kicking ass over insurmountable man-made catastrophes.

Fukushima? Hah - is that all you pussies GOT??

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:52 | 6239178 Temporalist
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I picked a bad week to stop sniffing glue.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 18:04 | 6239406 Anusocracy
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The Autism Spectrum Disorder Is largely responsible for man's STEM disciplines.

It took the Asperger's (systemizing) brain to achieve them, with just the socializing brain we would still be living in caves.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 20:30 | 6239891 Paveway IV
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How ironic. Environmental toxins produced by industries employing STEM discipline workers are largely responsible for the current Autism Spectrum Disorder epidemic.

15% increase in incidence every year in the U.S. for the last decade or two? Damn... We're gonna need a lot more STEM people to find a cure.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 17:46 | 6239201 Freddie
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Seriously - F em.

Nevada is a shithole that gave us Hairy Reid and his fellow Mormons and ZioCons casino owners.  (one plus for Mormons was Reid's drunken brother who kick the ***ing shit out of Harry - should have done it 20 years ago and not stopped wailing on him). 

Ditto California.  F U libs.  U created this reality.  And Arizona is another shithole that gave us amnesty McCain and amnesty Jeff Flake.

Calif, Oregon, Wash State and Nevada gave us Obola too.  F Em!

Not just F**k You but Fuki You!  Enjoy your Fuki MOX.  

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:53 | 6239180 RaceToTheBottom
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Haven't you heard, the world has been Financialized. 

 

We can just print up some water....

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 19:17 | 6239666 WhackoWarner
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Or steal it and pipe it in from British Columbia....just gotta bribe some more folks.  Oh and TPP us

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 17:01 | 6239222 Model T
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Of course. What happens after a drought ?  It rains.  Wow.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 17:25 | 6239300 Seek_Truth
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Of course. What happens after it rains after a drought?  Floods and mudslides.  Wow.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 17:50 | 6239364 General Decline
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And when the drought eventually returns, dry, dead vegetation does too, and then lots of forest fires! How exciting.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 01:10 | 6243476 Magooo
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You fucking jerk off.  If you are going to post lies then fuck off

 

A Wonder in Decline The Disappearing Lake Powell in Pictures

 

https://projects.propublica.org/killing-the-colorado/story/lake-powell-p...

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:10 | 6239034 Tom Servo
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These people need to not move to my state and fuck it up...

 

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:24 | 6239089 ClimateWarrior
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Of course, WE all. We all contribute to global climate change through carbon emissions.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:59 | 6239210 Model T
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Pathetic moron.  Almost, but not quite, four molecules in every ten thousand air molecules are CO2; which is absolutely vital for green plants and higher life on Earth. It has absolutely no effect on Global Weather. On the other hand professional propaganda has an excellent effect on you; being a scientific illiterate and all.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 17:11 | 6239257 BarkingCat
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Do you mean to tell us that plans breathe in CO2 and produce Oxygen??

No, that cannot be!!!

 

 

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 17:13 | 6239265 ClimateWarrior
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Scientific illiterate?

So what is wrong with hundreds of scientific studies I have read and am reading about climate change?

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 17:27 | 6239309 cossack55
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Comprehension....perhaps?

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 17:34 | 6239327 Shad_ow
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Naw. More like compensation.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 18:18 | 6239448 swmnguy
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That's pretty hilarious.  Of course, we all know that scruffy environmentalist hippies have way more economic firepower than the oil companies, auto companies, and the entire Western corporate system based on carbon fuel usage.

Those fucking hippies!  They're so wealthy and well-organized!  Not to mention smelly and stoned.  The corporate world doesn't stand a chance!

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 19:09 | 6239632 Automatic Choke
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hey climate warrior -

there are lots of scientific studies that are all over the map. 

if your attention has only been brought to those that claim catastrophic anthropogenic warming, perhaps you are only reading those linked by huffpost or some other liberal pre-selector.

here is a nice database that tries to keep up to date on the many contradicting studies.  enjoy!

http://www.populartechnology.net/2009/10/peer-reviewed-papers-supporting...

 

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 19:56 | 6239794 swmnguy
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I'm not arguing that I can interpret scientific data in light of the current state of research.  Climatology is not my bag, baby.

I'm arguing that it is very very silly for people to claim that the envirornmentalist hippies are outspending the energy industry, and that environmentalists have more political power than corporate finance interests.  Absurd, even.  Not to be taken seriously.

The scientists can argue among themselves, though about 99.5% of them seem to think one thing, and 0.5% of them, all paid by marketing arms of certain industries, are the only ones who think differently.  That's fine, dandy, and normal.  But to claim that the hippies are better-organized and better-funded than corporate interests is an insult to the intelligence, whether intentional or not.  I know some hippies, some environmentalists, some scientists, and many many corporate operatives.  I know better.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 19:54 | 6239790 Paveway IV
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Paraquat - the final solution.

Paraquat is actually pretty old-school. They actually have a far more lethal neurotoxic herbicide now: cyperquat. It's at least an order of magnitude superior to earlier Parkinson-inducing paraquat. Turns your lungs white, so avoid breathing. 'Nam guys might recognize paraquat as 'VA in a can'. Modern-day hippies should consider cyperquat as 'Parkinson's in a can'. Cyperquat's neurotoxic metabolite, MPP+, was originally derived from synthetic heroin. It enjoyed a brief (!) period of disco popularity in California in the 80's. The users developed Parkinson's disease, so that was kind of a buzz-kill. "Wanna go clubbin' tonight?", "No. I can't walk or move my arms anymore".

To 'control' illegal grows today in CA, they use what they call a 'double punch': shower the area with glyphosate followed by a clean-up run of cyperquat a week later. This isn't sarcasm - I'm totally serious. They borrowed the technique from midwest farmers trying to control rye grass because so much rye grass is glyphosate-resistant now. Farmers - you know. Those are the guys that grow your FOOD. In fields that rye grasses love. That rye grass double-punch is also a great chromosome double-tap.

Hey - quit your whining already. You got PLENTY of chromosomes. Don't be so God damn greedy. 

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 17:29 | 6239313 Beatscape
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It has gotten slightly cooler since 1998 while CO2 went up about 5%. This is OPPOSITE what the IPCC and Jim Hansen models predicted which was about a +.3C increase. Therefore, all of the global warming models have been wrong.

The alarmist agenda appears to be for two primary purposes: A. To make a few elitists like Al Gore, Ted Turner, Maurice Strong, Mikael Gorbechev, George Soros, etc. rich/richer; B. Bolster the UN's control over world economy.

Global warming is a mind control hoax designed to prevent people from thinking clearly or even thinking for themselves. It's kinda like Hitler's Big Lie that very few dared to challenge. It has reached the tipping point in mainstream thought like a runaway freight train where rational objection and healthy skepticism are treated as some form of religious heresy. 1984 is here and we don't even realize it.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 18:27 | 6239485 StychoKiller
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"Logical!  Emminently and profoundly, logical!"

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 18:58 | 6239585 CPL
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Yet they still can't make it rain.  Looks like it's bed pans and wet naps for the high rollers.  I hear indoor compost toliets are nearly scentless now.

(July 1st is coming up...water bill is late so it's doubled to 400 BTC.  Talk amongst yourselves, dog days of August are coming.)

1JdRM74wtrBDZbu8n2aUPP3bLrCtEFFuM8

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 19:22 | 6239682 WhackoWarner
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try telling all this to people who are watching sea levels rise.  Watching shorelines with 100 year old trees collapse with the rising tides.

 

So in between drinking your kool aid take a trip and take a look.  Go talk to a Polar bear.  Has to be some really faulty science and hippy behind the opening of the Northwest passage?  I blame it all on Suzuki.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 20:39 | 6239921 Mike in GA
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That's funny, just yesterday I read of 2 tidal monitors in different parts of the world that have not changed since monioring began.

If I can remember where I read it and find it again I'll come back and post a link.

 

Sat, 06/27/2015 - 16:59 | 6242300 Flakmeister
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\facepalm...

Sad really...

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 21:38 | 6240098 Moe Howard
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Try not to confuse erosion with rising water levels. Let me know when Manhattan is under water.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 18:01 | 6239395 Cruel Aid
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flat earth had a consensus of scientists

Sat, 06/27/2015 - 16:57 | 6242295 Flakmeister
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In what fairy tale?

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 17:29 | 6239314 Freddie
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Then shut off your fu**ing computer and go off yourself.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 18:03 | 6239397 Overflow-admin
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Overheat! Overheat! Overheat! <- that means your brain is frying

http://www.eldoradocountyweather.com/climate/world-maps/world-snow-ice-c...

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 22:24 | 6240227 Blythes Master
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Nobody here drinks your Kool-aid.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:29 | 6239105 chrsn
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Brawndo has what plants crave

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:48 | 6239166 Incubus
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Beats toilet water.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:55 | 6239190 Model T
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Not a problem; all the people from Las Vegas can go live with Bill Gates at his house, along with the 500,000 little Niggra Chilluns he's gonna save from Malaria. He is gonna invite them to live at his house, isn't he ? If human beings could actually lthink it'd be a pretty nice world.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 17:06 | 6239246 Incubus
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If human beings could actually lthink it'd be a pretty nice world.

 

It's always the simple things that are the biggest obstacles.  Thnkuns is 2 hard

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 18:47 | 6239552 espirit
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Ow, ow, ow - thinkun makes my head hurt.

I can't do it, it's too hard!

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 17:25 | 6239302 PrometeyBezkrilov
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Exactly. I suppose it was we who spayed chemtrails on the last photo.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 17:38 | 6239336 Abbie Normal
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As the island hopper flight attendant said in Hawaii:

Those white things floating on the water are called whitecaps.  And those white things above the water are called clouds.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 15:54 | 6238982 angel_of_joy
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Bullish !???

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 15:56 | 6238984 nuubee
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I agree, we have to start changing.

1) Kick out the environmentalists who care about fish species more than water for people

2) Kick out anyone who thinks that California's ridiculous levels of tax income should not have been spent on water system improvements in the past 30 years.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 15:57 | 6238997 BeaverCream
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But Agenda 21?

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:26 | 6239094 ClimateWarrior
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I guess environmentalists are also responsible for global warming, firefighters for wildfires and doctors for virulent infections, right?

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 17:02 | 6239223 Lore
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Re: "environmentalists are also responsible for global warming" <- In a way, that's true: it is an INVENTION.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 18:16 | 6239442 Model T
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Very true; but it's worth remembering that the only remedy that's ever been proposed for this non-existant problem is a BIG TAX. In other words. .gov and all their little alphabet soup of funded agencies are in it up to their eyeballs.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 17:13 | 6239264 nuubee
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Environmentalists have blocked every single attempt at controlling California rivers for drinkwater use for the past 30+ years. They refuse to compromise with just about any plan that alleviates impact on fauna and just outright block the plan. Hell, they even come up with reasons against desalination from the Pacific.

Listen, and understand! The California environmentalist is out there! It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until every human being is dead.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 17:37 | 6239334 Freddie
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Look at the old Sierra Club.  They were against uncontrolled immigration because it creates sprawl and higher populations where they go and where they leave.

Then the Sierra Club became a Democrat Party appendage.  Capt Paul Watson of the Sea Shepherd Society was on the board and try to stop the co-opting and takeover of the Sierra Club and quit because it was ruined.

So let California have 100 million more illegals. F em.  Let em eat MOX.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 18:53 | 6239570 drendebe10
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Well quoted. Progressive liberal democraps- fukem all.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 18:14 | 6239434 Model T
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Environmentalists are 100% responsible for global warming; they invented it; it's their new neligion, they fund the propaganda releases you read, ( you've never read a Scientific Report, they're written in Phd' talk; which is not readable by science illiterates).

Sat, 06/27/2015 - 17:01 | 6242303 Flakmeister
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What hole in the ground did you crawl out from...

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 17:39 | 6239339 crisrose
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Who downvoted you?

Correspondence between the National Marine Fisheries Service and Congressman Jeff Denham’s office shows the Bureau of Reclamation wants to flush as much as 15,000 acre feet of water down the Stanislaus River in order to “save” six fish.

http://www.mantecabulletin.com/archives/122681/

Whereas agriculture used to consume 80 percent of the state’s water supply, today 46 percent of captured and stored water goes to environmental purposes, such as rebuilding wetlands. Meanwhile 43 percent goes to farming and 11 percent to municipal uses.
— The Economist, October 2009

http://californiawaterblog.com/2011/05/05/water%E2%80%94who-uses-how-much/

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 15:57 | 6238986 BeaverCream
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That LA river always has a little flowing through it, just get some cheesecloth, funnel, and a gallon jug.  Free water for all.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 15:57 | 6238988 css1971
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You're going to have to move.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:55 | 6239192 Climb
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Sorry, but I'm waiting for everyone else to move.  Hopefully they don't move to where you live.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 15:57 | 6238996 Drop out
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The more it evaporates, the stronger it gets. This can only end well.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 15:58 | 6238998 Mike Honcho
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This must be the end times if desert living is getting this strained.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 18:05 | 6239411 Cruel Aid
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lol see Sam Kinnison on living in deserts, lolol

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 15:59 | 6239002 Fun Facts
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Cavitation will set in before 25 feet.

It probably needs something like 15 feet of water above the pipe to prevent it.

That leaves 10 ft to go before the pumps start sucking air.

Hopefully someone has thought about this aspect.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:05 | 6239017 cigarEngineer
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Surely the pipe can be extended by bolting or welding on another pipe

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:21 | 6239071 PeeramidIdeologies
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Sure. Yet another fun fact to consider is the lower the level gets the fast the lake runs dry. Might as well skip ahead to the drain installation.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 17:04 | 6239235 Citxmech
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Don't forget the other bran muffen:  That Hover Dam's generator turbines require head pressure to generate electricity.  As the lake level falls, so does electrical generation capability.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 17:19 | 6239285 greenskeeper carl
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'might as well skip ahead to drain installation'

 

Pretty sure that is what they are doing with vegas's new and deeper straw...

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 17:01 | 6239224 serotonindumptruck
Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:03 | 6239006 Quinvarius
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You can not stop a drought with water conservation.  Move.  Housing prices must plunge.  So says God.

Although I still maintain my theory that it is possible fracking causes water tables to settle lower as it disrupts rock formations.  It only takes one hole in a bowl and the process begins.  Why not with earth?

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:01 | 6239009 stock market loser
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I can't wait till all the rich so cal assholes' homes turn worthless. 

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 18:20 | 6239455 swmnguy
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It's happening right now.  I'm going to a family gathering in the hills inland of San Diiego.  My relative who is graciously hosting hit the jackpot through the Military-Industrial Complex, and bought a hilltop estate.  On paper, it's worth a few million.  But without water, the tent I'll have in the trunk of my car when I get there will be worth more.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:16 | 6239020 Seek_Truth
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MENE, MENE, TEKEL, PARSIN.

The writing is on the wall.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Daniel+5%3A24-28&version=NIV

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 17:43 | 6239353 BarkingCat
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Hotels put bibles in the rooms so the toilet paper runs out their customers have something to wipe their asses with.

F course it's best to avoid such an action. I'd hate hate to contaminate my rectum with bullshit 

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 17:45 | 6239354 BarkingCat
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..ZH double posted

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 17:46 | 6239361 Dixie Flatline
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Gideons place bible in hotels so that lost sinners will have the opportunity to be saved from eternal separation from God.

Hedge accordingly.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 17:56 | 6239382 Seek_Truth
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I have some freinds who are Gideons, and I've been to a number of their events, by invitation.

Every one of them, in my opinion, are really fine people.

"He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned." - Mark 16:15,16

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 18:25 | 6239477 swmnguy
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I'm not a Theist in any way.  I find such belief in the folklore of primitive ancient peoples kind of odd.  I'm horrified by people who put such belief above the evidence of their senses and what they experience all day every day.  I'm not an "Atheist," who defines his belief in terms of what he doesn't believe.  I'm just not a Theist.

And yet, there are some very fine people who do wonderful and kind things, who for some reason give credit for their decency to their belief system.  I appreciate and respect their humility, but really think they should give the credit where it is due; to themselves.  They are wonderful people.  Plenty of people claim the same belief system and do horrible, terrible things for which they should be cast out of human society and left to die alone.

It isn't the belief structure.  It's the people.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 18:50 | 6239563 Dixie Flatline
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I'm horrified by people who put such belief above the evidence of their senses and what they experience all day every day.

Just...lol...bolded part is infallable right?

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 18:55 | 6239574 Seek_Truth
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"So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen, since what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal." - 2 Corinthians 4:18

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 19:58 | 6239802 swmnguy
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OK, that's fine, but if that's how you're going to live your life please do not drive a car.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 19:58 | 6239800 swmnguy
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Well, where do you get the evidence you rely and act upon?  From some self-appointed external authority figure, or from your own lying eyes and experiences?

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 21:14 | 6240034 Dixie Flatline
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I'll pass on your false choice.  Hey stick to living by "sight" if that is what works for you.  Who are you to say that my "sight" isn't right?  Are you able to see the implifications of your own worldview?

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:10 | 6239035 Consuelo
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What...?   Did Michael Snyder just get owned...?

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:12 | 6239040 Keyboard Kommando
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I would love to see the shithole known as Las Vegas go back into the desert! Fuck them!

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:23 | 6239085 PeeramidIdeologies
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You might enjoy the book WOOL. Well written si-fi.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 17:05 | 6239243 lasvegaspersona
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hey....

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:14 | 6239050 Jumbie
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WTF, doesn't anyone research this shit?
http://lakepowell.water-data.com/
Powell is UP 25 feet, and holds 30% more water then Mead
Mohave and Havasu are FULL so there is no need to release to them.

Read the weekly system report
http://www.usbr.gov/lc/region/g4000/weekly.pdf

Also, allocations that allow cotton and almonds to be grown in a coastal desert are doomed to fail. Or, they could reopen San Onofre, do desal, and use it to grow $5 almonds...

Oh, and ~30% more water is held in the surrounding porous rock.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:19 | 6239066 Automatic Choke
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nobody wants facts, they just want fear porn. 

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:45 | 6239159 EscapeKey
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Mohava and Havasu are tiny by comparison.

According to Wikipedia, Mead at 35 km3 is 5 km3 bigger than Powell, which - although improving as of late - is still down significantly since the 90'es.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_pQyvcBbJ0Fs/TIVNY9puKeI/AAAAAAAACjY/_r1_V5zdv2Q/im...

 

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:59 | 6239215 Stumpy4516
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Looks like Powell is up 25 feet in just two months.  And ti would appear the snowpack has been such that this should continue for two more (we shall see).  That would be plenty of water to release to Mead if needed.  Another year like that changes everything.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 17:32 | 6239321 Last One Out
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Lake Moahve and Lake Havasu are simply wide sections of the Colorado River, hardly 'real' lakes. The entire volume of Lake Mohave passes through Hoover dam in roughly 4 days.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:16 | 6239055 Moccasin
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The National Hockey League is cosidering a expansion team in Las Vegas at a cost of $500,000,000. Ice hockey played in Las Vegas, this is surely a sign of the end.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:19 | 6239065 PTR
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There's a 4th tier professional soccer team that got started in Vegas.  Known as the Mobsters. Was actually in talks with MLS for a franchise.  

Like more grass is needed there.

*faceslap

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:55 | 6239191 Seer
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"Like more grass is needed there."

Actually it would help.  Problem is that folks are too stupid to do it, instead, demanding crap like MLS.

http://permaculturenews.org/2013/03/05/allan-savory-how-to-green-the-wor...

Don't know about it combating "climate change," but I do KNOW about how proper application of grazers can make soils come alive.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 17:05 | 6239242 Lore
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Re: "Don't know about it combating "climate change," but I do KNOW about how proper application of grazers can make soils come alive."

+1 for the qualifier. "Climate Change" is environmental Al Qaeda.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 17:18 | 6239281 Seer
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Well, if you say so...

At this point no one can amass The info to crack the code because everything is so distorted, distorted to the point that I'm pretty sure no one would recognize actual facts (it could very well be that Climate Change is real*).

* As a matter of FACT, the climate does change.  Plenty of fosil records demonstrating that the earth cycles through inter-glacial and glacial periods.  This cycling is just the earth's way of shaking the big etch-a-sketch, doing a big re-till so that the gaarden can start again.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 17:52 | 6239368 Oh regional Indian
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Well said...

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 17:01 | 6239228 Incubus
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How popular do you think camel racing would be over there?

I'm looking at eco-conscious sports. 

 

 

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 18:34 | 6239516 StychoKiller
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Throw some Ostriches in for good measure!

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:16 | 6239059 PTR
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Always a good watch: 

Engineered Drought Catastrophe, Target California

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsYG5emdZp8

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:18 | 6239064 goldinpenguin
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Elvis warned us long ago 'Leave-a Las Vegas"

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:19 | 6239067 Professorlocknload
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So, where has all the water gone?

http://lakepowell.water-data.com

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:29 | 6239108 PeeramidIdeologies
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Water rights can be a bitch.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:21 | 6239072 B2u
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They could always learn to drink their own urine, although the latest is that urine is not sterile so they would have to sterilize it before drinking it.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 17:21 | 6239287 Seer
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Um... survival guides will show that a person can drink his/her own urine, but only for about three cycles.  I have no intention of testing this!  I do know, however, that there's no such thing as "perfect water," all water has some sort of imperfections.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 19:00 | 6239590 drendebe10
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Urine in situ is sterile but can be contaminated by the external meatus/genitalia on its exit.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:22 | 6239079 Automatic Choke
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las vegas is a desert city.  it is way ahead of most of the southwest in water conservation.  good facilities for reclaiming wastewater, most homes have dry landscaping.  yes, the huge fountains on the strip are stupid and a waste, but that is a far cry from describing the whole town.  having a head start in water conservation and sitting aside the colorado -- runoff channel for the western slope of the rockies -- las vegas is in fine shape water wise.  for some reason, everybody wants to shout fear porn every other day.  perhaps they have puts on LV real estate...?

 

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 17:23 | 6239292 Seer
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Jevons Paradox.

In the end conservation can never outrun growth.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:23 | 6239083 ah-ooog-ah
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My patent for dehydrated water cubes shipped by Fedex has just been accepted.  I'm going to be soooo rich !

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 17:11 | 6239262 KashNCarry
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Cool!  Just add water, right? ;-)

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:27 | 6239097 dobermangang
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Time to send in the U-Hauls.  

"You live in a desert!  You understand that.  You live in a fucking desert!"  - Sam Kinison

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0q4o58pKwA

 

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:28 | 6239102 Ajax_USB_Port_R...
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Fill in a large portion of Lake Mead with sand and gravel. That will raise the lake level. Build lake front homes on the reclaimed land. Win-Win!

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:29 | 6239103 Dominus Ludificatio
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Maybe the exceptional  Silly Con Valley geeks can solve the problem . Thery are working on an app rirght now .It is really amazing what these minds can do when you take away their video games.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:44 | 6239155 HowdyDoody
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It can easily be solved if we allow the central banksters to introduce negative water level rates. That will involve banning anonymous water but that's a small price to pay.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:30 | 6239113 q99x2
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What are they stupid. Why don't they move the SJV to Pittsburgh. It rains every F'n day here.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:31 | 6239115 Laddie
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They have been polluting potable water in the US via fracking, coal mining etc. Apparently nobody really cares. Add in an immigrant driven population juggernaut and the future for not just water but open spaces, affordable housing and all the stuff the so-called environmentalists care about, is GRIM.

"Overpopulation in the United States will become THE single greatest issue facing Americans in the 21st century. We either solve it proactively or nature will solve it brutally for us via water shortages, energy crisis, air pollution, gridlock, species extinction and worse.

U.S. population will double from 300 million to 600 million on its way to 1 billion in the lifetime of a child born today if we fail to change course."

Frosty Wooldridge 2000

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 17:27 | 6239308 Seer
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Well, mathematically correct.  Obviously it's NOT going to happen: Mother Earth doesn't work based on paper.  The point behind Wooldridge and others' (similar) comments are to emphasize that we're on a finite planet and that perpetual growth isn't possible.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 17:54 | 6239373 Abbie Normal
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Even if the entire immigrant population magically disappeared, how much time does that buy?

If there was 12 months of water remaining, now there's 14 months.  Any other great ideas?

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 21:33 | 6240081 Moe Howard
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The solution is we all move south after we tricked all the Mexicans and Central Americans into moving here.

They get the cold, we get the resorts!

 

Heaven on Earth.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 22:37 | 6240254 Faeriedust
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Overpopulation in the U.S. is not nearly the problem it is elsewhere and will reach critical mass in most parts of the world long before it does here.  In fact, our relatively modest problem with illegal immigration is a direct result of it having become critical in Mexico, while Europe's problem with boatloads of (mostly Muslim) immigrants in the Mediterranean is a direct result of overpopulation in Iraq, Iran, Syria and Egypt, all of which being direct results of Western oil purchases and support of Saudi Arabia for stable access to the oil.

Overpopulation on a world level is already critical; the entire issue of climate change starts with too many people doing what we've done for thousands of years, but now there are seven billion of us and it's just too much for the Earth's stabilization mechanisms.  And because it's too much for the Earth's stabilization mechanisms, there's no real danger of another doubling occurring.  Because lots and lots of people are going to start dying off rather soon, and many more, are going to be unwilling or unable to have kids.

 

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:31 | 6239116 henry chucho
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I have the solution;..Raise the lake bed 100 feet,by bulldozing all the casinos in Vegas,then dumping all the debris into Lake Mead..

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:39 | 6239139 Thisisbullishright
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Let the BLS double seasonally adjust the water levels and hedonically revise the levels and we should be around 1150 feet or so!

 

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:40 | 6239143 JerseyJoe
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I was just on the Colorado River in the Glenwood Canyon.   The good news - it is very high - so high rafters have been going missing.  

But that doesn't change the fact that Vegas needs to change their water use policies.  

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 17:00 | 6239216 the grateful un...
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remember LV cant keep all that water, they have to send it downstream to CA and AZ. and when the hydroelectric fails, the lights go out, no lights no water

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 20:54 | 6239980 mc225
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yeah, but check out the colorado down by mexico. sad. it's quite 'interesting' to load up google sattelite, and trace the flow of the colorado through the sw, and into mexico. ymmv

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:43 | 6239152 farflungstar
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Who would have thought living in the desert would entail water issues? 

Not me.

Fri, 06/26/2015 - 16:45 | 6239158 eddiebe
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Just change those figures, then there will be no shortage. 

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