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Supreme Court Legalizes Gay Marriage Nationwide In 5:4 Decision
Following yesterday's historic 6:3 Supreme Court decision enshrining the tax known as Obamacare, there was little surprise moments ago when in one of its last remaining decisions in re: Obergefell v. Hodges, the most liberal Supreme Court since 1960 just declared gay marriage legal nationwide. The decision, supported by all the women on the SCOTUS, came down in a 5:4 vote with Ginsburg, Sotomayor, Kagan, Breyer and Kenedy voting for, while Roberts, Scalia, Thomas and Alito dissented.
As always, the most interesting contents are in the dissent, which today was, ironically, written by Roberts who in the past 48 hours has made many friends and maybe even more enemies. Some of the key remarks:
... this Court is not a legislature. Whether same-sex marriage is a good idea should be of no concern to us. Under the Constitution, judges have power to say what the law is, not what it should be. The people who ratified the Constitution authorized courts to exercise “neither force nor will but merely judgment.”
Although the policy arguments for extending marriage to same-sex couples may be compelling, the legal arguments for requiring such an extension are not. The fundamental right to marry does not include a right to make a State change its definition of marriage. And a State’s decision to maintain the meaning of marriage that has persisted in every culture throughout human history can hardly be called irrational. In short, our Constitution does not enact any one theory of marriage. The people of a State are free to expand marriage to include same-sex couples, or to retain the historic definition.
Today, however, the Court takes the extraordinary step of ordering every State to license and recognize same-sex marriage. Many people will rejoice at this decision, and I begrudge none their celebration. But for those who believe in a government of laws, not of men, the majority’s approach is deeply disheartening. Supporters of same-sex marriage have achieved considerable success persuading their fellow citizens—through the democratic process—to adopt their view. That ends today. Five lawyers have closed the debate and enacted their own vision of marriage as a matter of constitutional law. Stealing this issue from the people will for many cast a cloud over same-sex marriage, making a dramatic social change that much more difficult to accept.
The majority’s decision is an act of will, not legal judgment. The right it announces has no basis in the Constitution or this Court’s precedent. The majority expressly disclaims judicial “caution” and omits even a pretense of humility, openly relying on its desire to remake society according to its own “new insight” into the “nature of injustice.” As a result, the Court invalidates the marriage laws of more than half the States and orders the transformation of a social institution that has formed the basis of human society for millennia, for the Kalahari Bushmen and the Han Chinese, the Carthaginians and the Aztecs. Just who do we think we are?
Understand well what this dissent is about: It is not about whether, in my judgment, the institution of marriage should be changed to include same-sex couples. It is instead about whether, in our democratic republic, that decision should rest with the people acting through their elected representatives, or with five lawyers who happen to hold commissions authorizing them to resolve legaldisputes according to law. The Constitution leaves no doubt about the answer.
As for the president's immediate response...
Today is a big step in our march toward equality. Gay and lesbian couples now have the right to marry, just like anyone else. #LoveWins
— President Obama (@POTUS) June 26, 2015
... it is not to be confused with his pre flip-flop take from several years ago:
... as a candidate for president, Obama told Rick Warren’s Saddleback Church that marriage could only extend to heterosexual couples. “I believe that marriage is the union between a man and a woman,” Obama said at the time. “Now, for me as a Christian — for me — for me as a Christian, it is also a sacred union. God’s in the mix.”
And here's Mike Huckabee's different 'perspective'...
Former Arkansas governor and 2016 Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee made the following statement in response to the Supreme Court's ruling on Obergefell v. Hodges.
"The Supreme Court has spoken with a very divided voice on something only the Supreme Being can do-redefine marriage. I will not acquiesce to an imperial court any more than our Founders acquiesced to an imperial British monarch. We must resist and reject judicial tyranny, not retreat.
"This ruling is not about marriage equality, it's about marriage redefinition. This irrational, unconstitutional rejection of the expressed will of the people in over 30 states will prove to be one of the court's most disastrous decisions, and they have had many. The only outcome worse than this flawed, failed decision would be for the President and Congress, two co-equal branches of government, to surrender in the face of this out-of-control act of unconstitutional, judicial tyranny."
"The Supreme Court can no more repeal the laws of nature and nature's God on marriage than it can the law of gravity.
Under our Constitution, the court cannot write a law, even though some cowardly politicians will wave the white flag and accept it without realizing that they are failing their sworn duty to reject abuses from the court. If accepted by Congress and this President, this decision will be a serious blow to religious liberty, which is the heart of the First Amendment."
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If that were true, and you believe completely in evolution, what of the 95% of species that have disappeared from the earth? Hydrocarbons? There is no "purpose" to anything unless you do believe in God. Otherwise we are here to serve whatever it is that WE believe important, if nothing more than satisfying a hard dick.
Sexual deviancy is what it is, deviant. It may somehow provide a purpose beyond our knowledge, but most evolutionary mutations are just that, and fail. What is a birth defect????Should we celebrate and promote them as well? The problem is that the rational mind seeks reason and purpose and reject that which cannot be affirmed. That is considered hate by progressives. When some heart felt program is proposed and anyone asks how much it costs, they are beat about the ears until they submit to the cries of anguish.
When society was more fragile and reproduction was revered and essential for human survival, sexual deviancies were seen as a real threat. Accurately today not nearly so much, unless you consider our recent data informing us that whites are not replacing themselves and are instead being replaced by other more prolific races, ones coincidentally that are not very tolerant of homosexuality. Go figure.
Accept the fact that for much of what we see, it provides no directed purpose, but everything has an effect. The human brain is about the only thing that actually creates purpose in its actions.
Not necessarily. As long as the species continues, evolution can tolerate a certain amount of defectives/faults. For example, juvenile diabetes or any juvenile disease.
No, there is no benefit from homosexuality.
There is simply reduced problems. I'd argue that the problems aren't actually reduced at all, simply compounded.
It's all a consequence of overpopulation, which is the same concept as resource depletion.
Events of this week show the sand has almost run out of the USA's hourglass. This nation and its federal government will be gone and replaced in a few more years.
So, what else did God have to say? Here is just a partial list of bad thingsyou better not do.....or face severe consequences. Any adulterers in the house?
The Old Testament prescribed the death penalty for the crimes of murder, attacking or cursing a parent, kidnapping, failure to confine a dangerous animal resulting in death, witchcraft and sorcery, sex with an animal, doing work on the Sabbath, incest, adultery, homosexual acts, prostitution by a priest's daughter, blasphemy, false prophecy, perjury in capital cases and false claim of a woman's virginity at the time of marriage.
Not mention the little things like cutting your beard or eating shell fish.
I am for gay marriage, but Im against all these whiny hipster douchebags who have not shut the fuck up about it for the past decade. Even the WSJ was literred with articles on this topic every week. Some fruits couldnt marry, yea I get it, life is shit, deal with it. I hope you all can see where this is going. In a civilized nation, after being repressed and denied rights for decades, a minority might take a victory like this cheerily, and go on living content lives for the rest of their days. Thats not whats going to happen here. Gay rights will still be making the news every week. They will still find something to bitch about, some supposed grand social injustice that in actuality is quite minor compared to all the other injustices of the world.
We are already seeing it. Hearing about bakers and caterers who were admonished after objecting to taking orders for a gay wedding. I have no problem with two dudes marrying. But I do have a problem with two dudes forcing someone who is uncomfortable with gay marriage being an active participant in their endevours.
So yep, Im happy for gays today. But I am worried because clearly gays and their supporters do not just want gays to be 'tolerated'. They want them to be embraced and loved and told how brave they are for being gay, which isnt going to happen, no matter how many laws they try to pass. And frankly, it sounds kind of gay anyway
+ 1000
I am a straight atheist, so I don't have a dog on either side of the fight. I couldn't give a fuck less what two consenting adults do in bed. But I am tired of the gays persecuting the Christians for not bowing down before the gay rights movement. You're a man who wants to marry a man? Fine, go for it. Leave the Christians alone, though. Freedom of religion is enshrined in the VERY FIRST AMENDMENT to the United States Constitution. In fact, freedom of religion is the reason why the European invaders arrived on these shores in the first place. So whenever a court somewhere grants two homosexuals a monetary award for discrimination, I'm left scratching my head. According to the Christian religion, homosexuality is a sin. These courts are demanding that Christians sanction and participate in the propagation of this sin. That removes their religious freedom. The logic seems really simple to me.
Congratulations to the gays and lesbians and the other members of the alphabet soup called the gay rights movement. Do you think you could accept your victory and stop bulldozing the rights of your fellow citizens? Nope, didn't think so. They will not stop until society EMBRACES their movement.
Notice how they never try this shit in Muslim bakeries? In Islam, homosexuality is a crime punishable by death. Maybe Christians should start beheading random people.
Ah yes ,the first amendment.The most important part of which is the right of legal redress
against your Govt. Whatever happened to that part ?
I don't remember reading that you need your Govt.s permission to sue them.
Can you point out that text ?
The Constitution was written by Oligarchs, for Oligachs,to enslave the serfs.
The sooner you realize that, the sooner you will have finally left the Matrix.
@CaptainObvious
You make a good point about the homosexuals not trying this with Muslim bakeries. The homosexuals smell the blood in the air of White Christians, and then all Whites. They know who it is safe to attack and who it is not.
Several years ago in London there was a play being put on depicting Jesus and His disciples as a homosexual bunch of pederasts. In a so-called "Christian" nation do you know what the Christians did? NOTHING, that's what NOTHING!
But do you know who took to the streets and had that abomination shut down? The Muslims, why? Because they revere Jesus as a prophet. Those who are called by His name did nothing to defend His honor, it took Muslims to do that.
Actually, Islam is growing in numbers here.
Hypothetically speaking, if Islam continues its growth rate, this country "might" have an Islamic Majority; and the SCOTUS(if they still have one then) may reverse its "Decision".
For a site that can be savvy about finance, you all are troglodytes when it comes to politics and manipulation, and gay marriage.
This is NOT amnesty for illegals, there is no La Raza nor an AIPAC. You say there is an agenda, but what would that agenda be beyond equal status.
The way so many of you extrapolate this ruling, is laughable, deal with reality, not with myth. Of course these are not YOUR rights we are dealing with so it’s ok to try and limit them because of your ilk’s hysteria.
And what exactly is a “fruit”, anonymity does bring out the best in some people.
It’s not about “fruits” marrying, it is about getting inheritance rights, social security benefits (the same ones you get if a “breeder” gets hitched…
You make a very good point. It's my personal belief that once a group achieves "special" status in the U.S., it never stops embracing it every chance it can and, in fact, works even harder to show outrage at every perceived slight until the populace becomes a neurotic mess--both trying to placate the special group and also trying to hide its contempt for the eternally aggrieved.
So funny to hear about groups who have to fight like dogs to gain equal rights, then be described as having "special" rights.
This was never about marriage as it's been understood for millenia: sexual exclusivity primarily for the purpose of raising a family. It was about trying to ram homosexuality down the throats of the rest of us. The funny thing is that most women luv the idea of homosexuals, even though it puts them out of business (so to speak).
Almost all homosexual marriage are shams, little more than gay theater--especially those unions between men. They mostly continue to have unlimited, random sex. Not that hetero couples don't have affairs, but there is no comparison in terms of scope and scale of the infidelity where the gays are concerned.
And, if you think hetero and gay sex habits ARE the same, watch the below clip (talking about "city jerks"), especially between minutes 2-4. I don't think 99%+ of heteros could stomach anything remotely similar to that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-55wC5dEnc
PIZDEZ.
How much longer does a country have when its primary priorities are endorsing buttsex and giving people free birth control pills?
sounds like a waste of money
It says a whole lot about a nation, when granting equal marriage rights equate to me as promoting "butt sex"...
Last I checked, "buttsex" was not illegal, so how gay marriage would promote that is questionable.
What it promotes IS equal rights under the Constitution, an article many of you idiots simply cannot comprehend beyond your own selfish interest.
This country is in trouble precisely because of people like you, who think only about themselves.
America is owned by corporate interests, our foreign policy is run by zionists, we have slaughtered hundreds of thousands of innocent people, caused/cause unimaginable suffering, and you are concerned about gay marriage…OMG, you people are so fucking ignorant.
Last I checked, "buttsex" was not illegal...
Maybe not where you live
http://www.salon.com/2013/12/15/sodomy_laws_still_exist/
You're overlooking the large let segment, which is into strap-on dido sex.
Note that they're not against sex with dick - just what it's attached to.
"Gods in the mix"
Now you're just being kinky...
Truly shocked about how much Obama has degraded the great USA in his time. He should be tried for treason as a minimum.
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Roberts bipolar? Yesterday's majority opinion he decided to legislate from the bench. Opening line from his dissent contradicts his obamacare ruling.
+1 [for calling him on his bullshit]
no shit! first para says it all!
Roberts is compromised. They either have picturtes of him with a schlong in his talkbox or him balls deep in a cheerleader.
That was always my concern about the NSA spying. Who could be comprised and what could happen if they were? this could be a classic case!
Suck it up Amurica!
This sight is becoming unusable, ads playing every where, cant even type in comments with out being edited because typing will not keep up. Isn't there other ads you could run tyler? My computer starts smoking when i come here. checking in less often because of it.
https://adblockplus.org
My adblock registered 35 ads on this page alone. We must really be getting popular. Too bad we are attracting so much ignorance
Ever hear of AdBlock? Ghostery?
Badly kept secrets about Roberts:
1) He's gay. Google the internet for pictures of him and his gay friends.
2) His "wife" is a beard.
3) He illegally adopted 2 Irish babies. The Irish take a dim view of this and will take children away from their adoptive parents and repatriate them upon discovery. If you know anyone who has adopted children, this is the nightmare scenario.
Given that (1) and (2) don't get much traction in today's society, Obama is obviously using (3) to bend Roberts to his will. Until those children become legal adults, Roberts will be 100% compromised.
Yes, imperial courts are well known for their hypocritical & contradictory "rulings" which is what this court has become, imperial.
In the past we have "ruled" that ObamaCare is a tax (even though Obama's lawyers argued it was not, that it is a "penalty") and "the tax" is paid to private corporations and not any government entity. Yesterday we informed the world that we are also mind readers, finding the words of the law completely irrelevent to what we presume the intent of the law is.
And everyone wonders why I've discarded any notion of law or justice through this legal system.
No justice, no peace ;-)
Nmewn,
I understand the sentiment behind what you say. I also feel the sense of bewilderment waking up every day in a country I recognize less and less with each day's passing. I don't have an answer, and won't even hazard any guesses any longer. I am emotionally tapped out with it all.
I have reached the cynical point where every day I do something productive that further strengthens my own personal position for when SHTF. A close circle of like-minded friends, a tightly knit, self-supporting community, intersecting lanes of fire for everyone else.
I hope it happens this very instance, let the chips fall where they may. Afterwards, we shall see what there is left to work with.
I think many feel the same way at times, bemused and astonished. You're doing the right thing, be productive, develop allies and prepare, when it happens it will happen quick I think, full-on-retard despotism, troops in the street type shit.
You see the propensity for this in the courts own rulings.
The court is not an elected body, its not the congress or the executive, it is not voted in or out or held accountable in any way, yet its "rulings" overstep these boundaries with increasing frequency like any other bloated, sloven apparatchik device, revealing more & more of the of the Deep State persona that it is. But in the end they can only win when we stop opposing it and them.
Never let the bastards beat you down ;-)
Of course, Roberts is compromised. He only came out on the Conservative side of this to maintain the illusion that he is not compromised. If Kennedy had gone the other way, Roberts would have changed his opinion at the behest of Obama and the Liberals.
Widespread moral decline on issues such as this is just another indicator the collapse isn't far off.
Rome, Weimar Germany, China at the begining of the 20th century, same patterns emerge.
This version of America is coming to an end soon, those of us who survive what's coming, can hopefully rebuild something better.
BEST...TROLL...EVER!!
E X A C T L Y!!!!!!
Russia seems to be going the other way. Fair trade and friendship with other countries, tolerance of all people while not pushing the ZWO gay agenda, concern for your own people versus f**king your own people three days in a row with some phony court run by Deep State/ZWO.
The NWO is Satanic not Zionist.
Luciferarian, not Satanic. i thought that you knew this. i know you get a lock of flack for saying the NWO is not Zionist (i agree, Zionism is a tool of the NWO, just as radical islam is and so is progressive statism).
Aparently as you become a higher ranking Oligarch you find out the truth that Satan and Lucifer are one in the same. That's just another one of the Elite's lies that they are seperate entities.
It just semantics anyway, is there any doubt that the people at the top are pure evil?
They rape children as ritual. The practice both human and animal blood sacrifes. The brainwash their own family members.
They're planning to murder billions of us through WWIII, and make slaves of whoever is left after the war.
Pure evil what ever name it goes by.
STFU, the very idea that THIS is what you think is a sign of “moral decline” is just laughable. This is a bright spot in a sea of blood in America.
America slaughtered the Indians, we dropped two nukes on innocent civilians when the war of OVER, we have started overt wars, assassinated innumerable world leaders, not to mention a couple of our own. We have destroyed the Middle East, destroying civilization after civilization.
Our leaders are cowards and zionists sycophants.
But giving some Americans the same rights YOU ENJOY, “that’s the thing that exemplifies the end of America”…Jesus weeps for your ignorance.
George W and his ilk were to most anti-gay rights people you could find, and a group more in line with the works of Satan you could not find, seems you are in great company…
In the main, the Indians were bloodthirsty savages. They couldn't adapt to the white man, so they died. End of story.
As far as nuking Japan, it ended the war immediately, so your premise is retarded; it was obviously the right thing to do. You want to get outraged about something, try the firebombings of Tokyo or Dresden, which killed way, way more people with no discernible result towards ending the war.
The middle east has been destroying itself since the advent of Islam; we've only been involved for the last 30 years, which is a popcorn fart compared to 1400 years of self-imposed turmoil; fuck them. You want to get mad about something, get mad that we let ourselves get sucked into the longest-running shitshow in history.
And then you top it off by invoking "Bush's fault"! What a stupid tool you are.
30 years is the extent of our involvment in the ME? I know you are not that ignorant. We have been involved in the ME since the discovery of oil....and what about the establishment of Isreal. You wouldn't call that "involvement". Or our part in the overthrow of the Iranian Prime Minister in 1953. Was that involvement?
A member for ONE week. Signed up in anticipation of this forgone conclusion by the black robed tyrants. Probably, on the gov. payroll, too.
I wish I could say that the decline of a civilization isn't always marked by the growth of narcissism, libertinism and moral degeneracy; but the simple fact is that it is.
Moral degeneracy could be charted inversely to the rise of fiat currency. End the FED!!!
Every day...social issues designed to "Divide and Conquer/Distract/Obfuscate" enabling them to continue stealing our freedoms (what's left of them) and our treasure...
And it's working gloriously. Even on ZH it seems to work on some people.
What a bunch of fags.
Why anyone would want the permission of .gov to get married is beyond me.
Maybe it is because in America, it's the only way you can be legally married and enjoy the benefits bestowed on married couples by the government.
Does that clear it up for you?
Let me preface this by saying I am a Christian and do not think government has any role in marriage. None, nada, zilch. For those Christians or advocates of traditional (one man, one woman) marriage who are going bananas right now I have some questions:
How these questions are answered goes a long ways into determining how a person feels about the state and government.
It’s about self-determination and the states desire to limit it. In a perfect world, gay people would have always had this right, just like there should have been no slavery. The reality is, the idea of marriage is bigger than a religion, if a society deems marriage with certain rights and privileges. I certainly don’t believe a church should be forced to give its approval, but I don’t like the Mormons who spend their money trying to block states from giving anyone any right.
We would be a far greater nation if we spent our energy fighting against injustice, instead of fighting against individual rights.
It is indeed sad that gay rights is associated with this time of great injustice in America. Obama is a disaster, as is the Patriot Act, Obamacare, and his push for TPP and Amnesty for illegals. America is a lost cause, not because of this shred of light in an otherwise dark sky, but because we have become so indoctrinated into identify politics, and we only support those ideas that we benefit from directly. We all line up on our side of an issue, always ready to criticize, yet missing the big picture, how a certain idea will fit into the larger scheme…We are like children, and they treat us as such.
This may come as a shock to you, Rubicon, but what "Christians" think, believe, or recognize in the matter of marriage is meaningless in the view of the state.
https://youreadygrandma.wordpress.com/2015/04/28/supreme-court-justice-d...
"With the first day of hearings taking place before the United States Supreme Court, an awkward happening occurred when Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts found out that both religion and religious establishments have nothing to do with the legality of same-sex marriage.
The uncomfortable exchange began when Chief Justice Roberts asked famed gay rights lawyer Mary Bonauto why she believed that we should “force churches and religious leaders to preside over a homosexual wedding that, when taken as a whole, would offend their moral conscience.”
Although she seemed taken aback, Bonauto replied with little to no hesitation.
“Well, I’d cite the U.S. Constitution, previous Supreme Court decisions, and the Treaty of Tripoli.”
Chief Justice Roberts then asked Bonauto to elaborate on her answer.
Bonauto replied, “Thomas Jefferson clearly stated that the intent and function of the 1st Amendment was that the country could never establish any laws based on, or supporting, a specific religious view. He stated that ‘the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion.'”
She then continued by stating that, “This court has ruled in this manner time after time, and even the Treaty of Tripoli, which was unanimously approved by the U.S. Senate way back in 1797, clearly stated that our government was not established on any specific religious tradition. Not to mention, priests and churches will not be forced to marry anyone.”
Bonauto concluded by accurately saying, “Indeed, it is a fact that all you need to get married would be another person, a trip to a courthouse, a witness, and a signed document. When people get married in a church, it isn’t recognized by the government without the legal documentation.”
It was at this point that those in the court witnessed Chief Justice Roberts begin to whisper to fellow conservative Justices Scalia and Alito. Justice Roberts then became visibly red in the face at this point and some reports even state that you could audibly hear Roberts say, “Really!?”
3.8% of the country is Gay, and , Current estimates suggest that 40-50% of recent marriages will end in separation, prior the death of either spouse. So what was the reasio for this?
3.8% is very very low, and I believe under grossly under reported. I think the real number has to be closer to 20, counting those that play for both teams.
Are you retarded? That would mean that 20% of the men you know suck cock. Unless you live in SF or NYC, that isn'e even remotely possible.
My guess is, 3.8% is about 50% high. I'd be surprised if it was 2%.
Two reasons. The 10 Commandments are no longer considered important and no fault divorce.
The American Bar Association?
Most liberal SC since 1960? Are you f*ckin kidding me? There isn't a single liberal on the bench! It's just conservatives and moderates.
Exactly, the idea that any of these are necessarily “liberal” decisions is laughable, and really shows how limited our reasoning has become.
This court basically said Corporations are people, but I guess to some, that is liberal.
Many people here are very small thinkers, they can’t think beyond this moment, this decision, and that is why Americans are so manipulatable, because many Americans think just like these people do.
Guns, flags, gays…all easy ways to push a population into one direction or another, while wars, assignations, Federal Reserve machinations, all go beneath the radar.
Americans elected an idiot TWICE, who lead this country into war that killed thousands and thousands of people and destroyed a civilization, based on lies.. and how has this JUST society dealt with this great injustice? Is “W” in jail, no, but a few whistle blowers are. But these fools think gay marriage heralds the end of American civilization. No, it’s their stupidity and selfishness that does.
Excuse me, but if you truly believe that Ruth Bader Ginsburg is moderate or conservative, your personal politics must be to the left of Karl Marx.
SCOTUS 5 are ignorant cocksuckers.
SCOTUS, 9 are ignorant cocksuckers. FIFY...
I am going to marry my mother, she is getting ready to pass away and I want the spousal exemption on inheritance! FTW!
"Give to Oedipus."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0quUM-Nr2c
The right to marry whomever you want was always there, we just decided to let the government have a say in it. We decided to let the government define the meanings of words. Instead of looking for a definition for marriage, how about we talk about what freedom really means? This vote should never have happened. The issue should've never gone to the government. We elect our friends and neighbors, supposedly, to go to Washington DC and represent us, and then we let them tell us who we can or cannot marry? We even let them choose the word to define our relationships? We have lost our way.
I said this just the other day when the ACA was upheld.
The Supreme Court destroyed what was left of STATUTORY LAW when they inserted words into a law that were not there. The original architect of the law even stated that the subsidies were not valid in the state exchanges. But NOOOooooo.....the Supreme court doesn't give a shit about STATUTORY LAW. We'll just invent and write in what is NOT THERE.
Now....with legitimizing gay sodomy. Now the Supreme Court has destroyed COMMON LAW. That is law based on tradition, facts on the ground, common sense, states rights, and even touches upon Natural Law.
So...in just one week, the Supreme Court has destory STATUTORY LAW AND COMMON LAW.
Couple this with the passage of TPP by our duly elected officials giving the Executive Branch carte blanch for the New World Corporate/Fascist Order to make laws and have them upheld in a court other than in America and buttressed by the Constitution.....which by the way......is completely null and void and thus dead forevermore.
You people, this week, just watched the official execution and death of the Constitution and the Republic of the United States of America.
R.I.P. America : (Born: March 1, 1781 <Articles of Confederation> - Died: The Last Week of June 2015)
Party On, Sodomites. Party On!
This ruling will cause a whole lot of sore assholes by Monday.
What is the treatment code for that under Obamacare insurance?
Code SHDTGT
(Shit, how did that get there?)
game over for usa
I believe that this is a defining moment in American history. We have rejected God! God help us.
We rejected God a long time ago (50+ million babies aborted). Look at the horrific statistics on family, drug abuse, crimes, etc. We're swirling the toilet bowl at this point and the farther down we go the closer you get to exiting the bowl and closer to the shit along with it.
the STATE is in control..they say jump and most jump. homosexuals want to marry, which ass hole do they want? you cannot make a family by inseminating turds, but they will try. Homosexuals have mental disease, miss wired brains, The STATE, is now also insane as they think a family comes from dick in ass ..if you dislike this post, it is because reality of how sexual organs are used by homosexuals are in direct conflict with the basic design of man and women..you are dealing with un reality which is a good enough definition of mental disease..ps I could care less what the state calls marriage, I know it when I see it.
More white genocide, by design. Indoctrinate the children in schools, check. Convince them to remain(never mature) in the homosexual phase of development, check. Then, pay them to have non productive (degenerate) sex, check. The overwhelming majority are whites who've attended college. Wait a few decades and watch white Christians(the ones who sent their kids off to college) become a small minority to be eradicated.
So, let me get this straight. US State sponsored murder of 30 million people wasn't the defining moment in history. The day the US overtook the Nazis in murder of more civilians wasn't the defining moment in history. Neither was US murder of thousands of their own citizens and children a defining moment... but when some group of government apparatchiks make something "legal" that is no business of the government in the first place, that's the "defining moment"...
Fucking hell, that's the stupidest thing I've heard all day!
There you go again bringing up facts. What have I told you about that?
Who seriously fucking cares how 2 consenting adults want to live?
Who seriously thinks that the government should have any say in who gets married to who?
Marriage shouldn't be in the realm of the government in the first place. Another distraction for the idiot masses.
What a fucking joke.
agreed "we will tell you who can and cannot form officially sanctioned partnerings, and we will tell you how and when you can end them. if we want to change the rules later, you'll have to accept it, because we set the original rule sin the first place. "
p.s. - "we still don't like those Mormons and that multiple marriage filth, so we'll put that one off until another discrimination meme arises."
Exactly, but don't speak too loudly. You'll catch the derpy ones in a cognitive dissonance feedback loop while they scream for freedom and liberty while they forget what it really means to have true liberty.
Thats just jealousy they can't get more than one woman to fuck them at a time without paying for it so no one else can either.
As a Libertarian, I don't.
There's more than plenty more of legitimately important shit to worry about in our day and age than this.
Supremes are celebrating in chambers by doing a circle jerk while listening to "Sotp, In the Name of Love," by Diana Ross and the...
Communist Goals (1963) Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963:
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."
that worked so well for the communists in the soviet union
Nudelman's klan and they wan to control Russia again. Putin threw most of these looters out and they want to get back in to murder and loot.
These NY'ers back by the Red Shield and Wall Street murdered 25 million Christian Russians from 1917 to 1939. Then 40 million more during WW2 where they back both sides.
Nice reminder, NRGTDR, whoever you are.
It's all in the 'Protocols of Zion', and much, much more.
We didn't fall, we were pushed.
When SHTF shortly, we can look back on this act of supreme idiocy. (National suicide)
muslims aren't going to like this
your forgetting jews and christians also.
no, Obama is perfectly fine with it
Islam will kill every gay faggot in America. SCOTUS just gave the passage way for a new war on terrorism. It's all scripted playbook theater.
The agreed similarities of Islam and Christianity. No sex with the same partner. Guess who supports? The Talmad. The Zionist sick fucker's.
Remind me again why anybody has to ask the government's permission to get married.
tax filing status
legal standing on benefits
estate planning laws
other man-made bullshit
The State has to make sure they get their cut. Its only civilized.
Which can all be achived by applying for "civil union."
remind me again why anyone has to get married in the first fucking place......
bread and cirucuses man...bread and circuses.....
I am not really against gay marriage, but the courts have chosen to abandon interpretation of the law for feel-good doling out of decisions. I'd really like to see a decision as to why the government is in the marriage game at all, same sex or no.
Money and power / social control. It's always the root cause answer.
Well according to the constutition, Being straight I actually DON"T have the right to get married, it's not written there, which means that it's a state - by - state granted right.
Now, this case grants the Gays a Legal "constitutional" right to be married in every state, which means that gays now havespecial constitutional rights that I don't have?
Am I missing something here?
What we have here is a failure to communicate.
SCOTUS has given tacit permission for men to take in the behind. States rights? Constitution? Relics (like gold).
Ben Dover, Ben Dover, let your attitude adjustment come over.
really soooo sooory about the double entendre there.really
Then there's the CRA of 1964 which did the same thing(Affirmative Action, institutionalized racism).
Hey gang, let's repeat every mistake all the great civilizations did...
Betting against the laws of nature alone is always a bad idea, much less the laws of God.
Is any group happier than the Divorce Attorneys? I think not...
We have a winner!
http://www.totaldivorce.com/news/articles/society/first-gay-couple-marri...
Thank God for Russia.
Boehner has got this too. He’ll need another term.
Ah yes - The Harbinger and the coming Shemitah come to mind.
Sept 13 - It is a Shemitah year
The 4 blood moons. Read up on it. 2015 and 2016 are to see major upheavals in the world. Going exactly according to plan.
I googled events taking place on sept 13 - Week 1 NFL stood out but some how I a Greek default would be a debt wipe out catalyst - BTW, these books are both fiction but scare me
America aka the New Babylon is turning its back from God. This will not sit well with the creator.
Did you flee?
People still believe in those stupid fairy tales in 2015?
George Carlin -- Religion is Bullshit
Not a Federal issue. States rights issue only.
Weren't 'States rights' settled sometime during 1865?
This ruling would seem to legalize polygamy too.
I don't know, are Mormons and Muslims protected classes?
I was just wondering when that one would come up, too.
There should be a limit how long you can be on the SC.
As a side note, This isn't going to affect everyday American lives at all. Gays have been getting married for decades, now it's legally binding. Big Deal.
"There should be a limit how long you can be on the SC. "
There is. The life of the justice. Duh.
Well, at least now the Wall Street and DC cocksuckers can do it legally, while the rest of us all take it up the ass, legally, of course.
Next up: Marrying your dog. Arf!
Lucille has messed my mind up.
When you get to the highest court in the land and you can't decide (a 5 to 4 decision is not a decision), then the matter should be undecided. At this level all decisions should be 9 - 0 or no decision rendered at all. What is law when it's a toss up!
Further, what privilege does a marriage partnership ... or any partnership ... bring. It should bring none. If there is one it should be removed. We should not be adding to it. Next people will be declaring a privilege from a partnership with their dogs, horses, dead brothers and sisters and who knows what else.
If my side loses...but the score was close...... call it tie. Too funny.
If my side loses...but the score was close...... call it tie. Too funny.
So your metaphor for law is the same as for a basketball game? Too pitiful!
Homosexuality is the dealth knell for a society because it puts not procreating on the same level as procreating. It's not surprising that the two yentas voted for it. Anything to destroy western society benefits them. They are joined by that Irish prick Kennedy and the "wise" Latina who is probably a dyke. Kagan is also probably a dyke. Breyer is just another creep from the Bay Area.
If anyone had any doubts about how corrupt the legal system is, this should seal that discussion.
USGAY! USGAY! USGAY!
Bullshit
I knew Archie Bunker was alive and well.
Only a damn fool couldn't see that THEY think tribally. All in the Family was written by a 'guess who'. Rhymes w/ who.
We've got enough fucking people on the planet anyway.
And this decision barely reflects a minute fraction of domestic governmental corruption.
Don't worry, all of society's hard workers and education oriented Latino and African-AmeriKans striving for the creation of a better and just society for us all will still be procreating like mad while everyone of a lighter shade is guilted into "not adding to the overpopulation problem".
Yea, just wait until consevative white families are confronted, at Thanksgiving, with a child who went to college and got married to another of the same sex. If that kinda thing doesn't wake them up, they're brain dead. I expect Hollyweird has already made the movie. Of course, the movie will show the family conceding defeat, as usual, while paying to have their kids ruined.
FYI, they put this flick out 6 months after the Sup. Ct. decision regarding interracial marriage(Loving vs. Virginia), back in 1967.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061735/
Guess Stanley's tribe. Hint, he made Judgement at Nuremberg.
Using your procreating logic, women past menopause1 should not be allowed to marry any man because it would not result in progeny. Infertile men or women likewise would be prevented from marrying. No society benefit, no marriage for you. Let's extend that a bit shall we? Someone is exceptionally good at engineering, should not be allowed to live off his inheritance, but forced to engineer stuff, benefitting society.
1 Exceptional modern medical interventions aside.
... this Court is not a legislature. Whether same-sex marriage is a good idea should be of no concern to us. Under the Constitution, judges have power to say what the law is, not what it should be. The people who ratified the Constitution authorized courts to exercise “neither force nor will but merely judgment...
It appears to me in this "decision", as with Obamacare, the SCOTUS has done exactly what Roberts says above isn't the role of the Court.
Let's everybody just keep saying one thing, doing another, and continue lying to ourselves!
.GOV switch and bait! Keep up if you can!
now enshrined spousal social security bennies just put the fund behind countless more billions. your gay lover just got health care coverage too, so look for premium increases in your O-care.
And the SJC goes full retard .....
The momentum accelerates into the abyss. Won't be long now....
why would anyone in their right mind, gay or straight, want to get married? 30 plus years of hell
Yea,,, but 'Gay's' really worked their asses off to achieve this elusive Amerikan dream.
The Surpreme Court has become just another interpretive body taking what they want and fitting what is written into it. The last of the defenses of this once great country are being unraveled at blinding speed and what will be left is a society of self-absorbed, unrestrained moral relativisits where what is good and right is completely in the eye of the beholder. Nothing new here this was predicted a few thousands years ago in several books of the Bible.
Gee, that's great,,, next up --- Bestiality.
call yellow, blue and make it a law, I will not accept what is obviously a falsehood. marriage is what it has been, no judge can make it something else..but they will try in their hubris. and fools will accept it but then that is what brain washing was all about, NO?
i used to think that was a loony rationale, but now not so sure. so if bestiality becomes legal, we'll have a hue and cry for homosexual bestiality rights. LGBT becomes LGBBT
Actually polygamy and pedophillia are next on the agenda. Then maybe beastiality.
Then hypersonic nukes raining down on us as punishment.
fuss and thunder over 2 men calling themselves married..circus for the masses. while outright rape of middleclass - TPP - overt military intervention across the globe, violation of property and privacy, police state killings out right criminal .gov (corzine)...contempt for what many hold as sacred just shows how confident the elite are of control.
It's a government of women, not men.
Let's see, in the past week we've begun to remove signposts of our past (confederate flag), rile up the darkies, promote more ass-humping and same-sex sex, turn constitutional law on its head by further enhancing the deadly Obamacare crap, and did I miss anything?
This should all turn out just fine.
I would like some gay married couples to move out here to farm country. We've already got our quota of porch-sitting welfare assholes, so why not some fags?
The boys might just need some target practice.
Shee-it, two months in the country and my inner bigot is all uppity.