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Supreme Court Legalizes Gay Marriage Nationwide In 5:4 Decision
Following yesterday's historic 6:3 Supreme Court decision enshrining the tax known as Obamacare, there was little surprise moments ago when in one of its last remaining decisions in re: Obergefell v. Hodges, the most liberal Supreme Court since 1960 just declared gay marriage legal nationwide. The decision, supported by all the women on the SCOTUS, came down in a 5:4 vote with Ginsburg, Sotomayor, Kagan, Breyer and Kenedy voting for, while Roberts, Scalia, Thomas and Alito dissented.
As always, the most interesting contents are in the dissent, which today was, ironically, written by Roberts who in the past 48 hours has made many friends and maybe even more enemies. Some of the key remarks:
... this Court is not a legislature. Whether same-sex marriage is a good idea should be of no concern to us. Under the Constitution, judges have power to say what the law is, not what it should be. The people who ratified the Constitution authorized courts to exercise “neither force nor will but merely judgment.”
Although the policy arguments for extending marriage to same-sex couples may be compelling, the legal arguments for requiring such an extension are not. The fundamental right to marry does not include a right to make a State change its definition of marriage. And a State’s decision to maintain the meaning of marriage that has persisted in every culture throughout human history can hardly be called irrational. In short, our Constitution does not enact any one theory of marriage. The people of a State are free to expand marriage to include same-sex couples, or to retain the historic definition.
Today, however, the Court takes the extraordinary step of ordering every State to license and recognize same-sex marriage. Many people will rejoice at this decision, and I begrudge none their celebration. But for those who believe in a government of laws, not of men, the majority’s approach is deeply disheartening. Supporters of same-sex marriage have achieved considerable success persuading their fellow citizens—through the democratic process—to adopt their view. That ends today. Five lawyers have closed the debate and enacted their own vision of marriage as a matter of constitutional law. Stealing this issue from the people will for many cast a cloud over same-sex marriage, making a dramatic social change that much more difficult to accept.
The majority’s decision is an act of will, not legal judgment. The right it announces has no basis in the Constitution or this Court’s precedent. The majority expressly disclaims judicial “caution” and omits even a pretense of humility, openly relying on its desire to remake society according to its own “new insight” into the “nature of injustice.” As a result, the Court invalidates the marriage laws of more than half the States and orders the transformation of a social institution that has formed the basis of human society for millennia, for the Kalahari Bushmen and the Han Chinese, the Carthaginians and the Aztecs. Just who do we think we are?
Understand well what this dissent is about: It is not about whether, in my judgment, the institution of marriage should be changed to include same-sex couples. It is instead about whether, in our democratic republic, that decision should rest with the people acting through their elected representatives, or with five lawyers who happen to hold commissions authorizing them to resolve legaldisputes according to law. The Constitution leaves no doubt about the answer.
As for the president's immediate response...
Today is a big step in our march toward equality. Gay and lesbian couples now have the right to marry, just like anyone else. #LoveWins
— President Obama (@POTUS) June 26, 2015
... it is not to be confused with his pre flip-flop take from several years ago:
... as a candidate for president, Obama told Rick Warren’s Saddleback Church that marriage could only extend to heterosexual couples. “I believe that marriage is the union between a man and a woman,” Obama said at the time. “Now, for me as a Christian — for me — for me as a Christian, it is also a sacred union. God’s in the mix.”
And here's Mike Huckabee's different 'perspective'...
Former Arkansas governor and 2016 Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee made the following statement in response to the Supreme Court's ruling on Obergefell v. Hodges.
"The Supreme Court has spoken with a very divided voice on something only the Supreme Being can do-redefine marriage. I will not acquiesce to an imperial court any more than our Founders acquiesced to an imperial British monarch. We must resist and reject judicial tyranny, not retreat.
"This ruling is not about marriage equality, it's about marriage redefinition. This irrational, unconstitutional rejection of the expressed will of the people in over 30 states will prove to be one of the court's most disastrous decisions, and they have had many. The only outcome worse than this flawed, failed decision would be for the President and Congress, two co-equal branches of government, to surrender in the face of this out-of-control act of unconstitutional, judicial tyranny."
"The Supreme Court can no more repeal the laws of nature and nature's God on marriage than it can the law of gravity.
Under our Constitution, the court cannot write a law, even though some cowardly politicians will wave the white flag and accept it without realizing that they are failing their sworn duty to reject abuses from the court. If accepted by Congress and this President, this decision will be a serious blow to religious liberty, which is the heart of the First Amendment."
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BING! Didn't I just tell you to work rectally on a paint brush? GET TO IT.
Next thing you know, theyll give the OK to marry your orangutan.
Just because you got away with it when you married your wife.
you might be confusing me with Obongo ;)
It's the federal subsidy you get for doing so that really matters.
Or "emotional support animal".
This is not about love!
It is not the politics of autonomy, but the politics of identity …
The rise of gay marriage over the past 10 years speaks, profoundly, to the diminution of the culture of autonomy, and its replacement by a far more nervous, insecure cultural outlook that continually requires lifestyle validation from external bodies.
What is being sought through gay marriage is not the securing of rights but the boosting of esteem. And this is a problem for those of us who believe in liberty …
It is a continuation of the attack on Straight White Christian Men as prescribed by the Frankfurt School Curriculum.
It is as they say textbook application.
I have a sense that lots of the commenters here are like that Marine Colonel in the film ''American Beauty''
Fuck You and take a paint brush and stick it up your Netherland's nether regions....
Reminds me of why I quit law school over 30 years ago. Trying to reason with progressive retards is like teaching a beast; they are incapable of it. Equal protection of the laws simply means that the laws apply to everyone equally. A law stating that people are only allowed to marry the opposite sex is therefore no violation of the 14th amendment because it applies to "gays" and "straights" equally. Get it? You may need to think about it for a bit. Telling a man who prefers sodomy that he can only marry the opposite sex does not dicriminate against him because it applies to all other men as well. He may not like it, but is no violation of the 14th amendment. Stick a fork in America, she's finished.
By your own comment you proved that you washed out of law school for being a retard.
The big laff riot here is Roberts getting all indignant over this marriage decision, when he has been the biggest turncoat and pussy on a dozen other issues including Obamacare just yesterday. Must be a homophobe.
If he is, then the rest of the justices are naturephobes.
Roberts was never a turncoat on Obamacare. He voted to protect the huge source of corporate profit that Obamacare was designed to produce. He started as a corporate lawyer and will always protect corporate interests. He is nothing if not consistent.
When I first heard about the ruling, I was a little upset. Then I go online and see all the "Christians" commenting here and other places and it made me more upset. Why should any Christian care about this ruling? We are supposed to be 'in the world, but not of the world' (John 17:14, James 4:4). Stop worrying about politics or your "country". Maybe the world is on a free fall to hell, but you know what? That's not our concern. What's happening is supposed to happen. Christians aren't supposed to impose their will on others through legislation or a bullet - we are supposed to bring others to Christ through love, humility, and living our life as near to Christ's as we can.
We are to follow God and not man (Acts 4:19, 5:29). Gay marriage won't affect me one way or the other. If it comes to the point that I as a Christian will face persecution for my beliefs, so be it. "If anyone is to be taken captive, to captivity he goes; if anyone is to be slain with the sword, with the sword must he be slain." Rev.13:10
Thats right, you got your Rapturemobile for quick escape.
One question
Do you Buybull thumpers ever use your OWN brain? Instead of spewing babblical passages, try THINKING sometime.
Oh, thats right, thinking and questioning is BAD,
One question
Do you Buybull thumpers ever use your OWN brain? Instead of spewing babblical passages, try THINKING sometime.
Oh, thats right, thinking and questioning is BAD,
One question
Do you Buybull thumpers ever use your OWN brain? Instead of spewing babblical passages, try THINKING sometime.
Oh, thats right, thinking and questioning is BAD,
Hmm, do you ever THINK about simple biology, evolution? How does your vaunted ghey "marriage" work then?
I think about lots of things., vaunted gay marriage? I think its stupid. marry who you want,. because I am FREE .
You are "free"??? Not really. You are a prisoner of your own ignorance.
http://www.sgi-usa.org/
As someone who burned their Buybull 39 years ago at age 30, I feel sorry for you.
My life got much better and happier after I embraced the True Law
http://www.sgi-usa.org/
Don't feel sorry for me, brother. I'm good. I'm as sure in my faith as you seem to be in yours.
To answer your earlier question: yes, I do think for myself - all the time, actually. The Bible is my guide to life. I study it everyday and have yet to find where it is wrong . I put my faith in God rather than myself or man.
Per the rapture you mentioned: I do believe it will happen, although I'm not sure if it will save me from persecution or tribulation. Either way, I'm at peace with what may or may not happen to me. It's God's will.
As I said, whatever works for you. This is what I do and it works 100 percent of the time. Have overcome terminal cancer and numerous obstacles in my lifetime.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL3fRLx4pHw
As I said, whatever works for you. This is what I do and it works 100 percent of the time. Have overcome terminal cancer and numerous obstacles in my lifetime.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL3fRLx4pHw
One doesn't "overcome terminal cancer". If you overcame cancer at all, then it wasn't terminal. By definition.
Was terminal cancer in the brain or ass?
Oh, never mind.
Reading some of your posts narrows that one down for sure.
"Now, for me as a Christian — for me — for me as a Christian, it is also a sacred union. God’s in the mix."
That was one of the biggest lies every.
Dont go bringing me into this shit mate.
Ask that cunt floating around here called dutchboy2015 or whatever his mother doesnt know about.
Nowt at all to do with 96
;-)
Where are the bi-sexuals', polygamists', and pederasts' "rights" to marry??
Does anyone ask your sexual orientation in the USA when you get married?
not in my country.
Lots of pedos and homos marry women to cover for themselves. even have children with them. Look at how many come out of the closet years later in their 50's. I say its better to be up front than deceive a woman,
When was the last time anything in Holland was relevant?
When the Dutch invented the stock market? Or when the Dutch invented the CD and DVD technology and wifi? Or invented LED lighting?
When the Dutch invented the stock market? Or when the Dutch invented the CD and DVD technology and wifi? Or invented LED lighting?
When the Dutch invented the stock market? Or when the Dutch invented the CD and DVD technology and wifi? Or invented LED lighting?
Priests don't marry.
The 1% radical gays, stupid college kids, and the discrimination pimps are thrilled.
The 99% that know better and just want to be left alone (or left in the closet) are not thrilled.
I think Obie had a cum stain on his pants again at the presser
The SCOTUS wants to tickle your SCROTUM
I am an Orthodox Christian. I could care less what laws are passed about gay marriage. The Orthodox Church will NEVER marry homosexual couples. That's all that matters to me.
A church down the street from me (built in 1411) has a gay minister who is married, The congregation which is mostly elderly loves them. They preach love and true Christianity.,
Your church down the street obviously needs to skip over parts of the Bible to keep that loving congregation on course. Just check Google for one of those passages, in Romans, and Google will supply the Number One answer to your inquiry: “Was Saint Paul homophobic?”
Obviously, you can understand that the forces of atheism are at work on the levers of power in this country such as the Internet search engines. Ignoring this power will take away your way of life and your country. And that church down the street that skips the words of Paul eventually will be required to skip the words of Jesus. And, then, when they show up one Sunday morning for more love and friendship the doors of their church will be locked.
For your reference here are the words of the Bible:
God says, "Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable" (Leviticus 18:22) and "If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads" (Leviticus 20:13).
"Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion" (Romans 1:26-27)
Paul writes, "I have written to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people - not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. But now I am writing you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat. What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? God will judge those outside. 'Expel the wicked man from among you'" (1 Corinthians 5:9- 13)
Also see Paul's reason: "Even if I caused you sorrow by my letter [referring to the chastening of the Corinthians in 1 Corinthians], I do not regret it. Though I did regret it - I see that my letter hurt you, but only for a little while - yet now I am happy, not because you were made sorry, but because your sorrow led you to repentance. For you became sorrowful as God intended and so were not harmed in any way by us. Godly sorrow brings repentance that leads to salvation and leaves no regret, but worldly sorrow brings death. See what this godly sorrow has produced in you: what earnestness, what eagerness to clear yourselves, what indignation, what alarm, what longing, what concern, what readiness to see justice done..." (2 Corinthians 7:8-11).
http://bustedhalo.com/questionbox/what-does-st-paul-say-about-homosexualit
http://www.thebiblepage.org/biblesays/homosexuality.shtml
Here is the True Law
Try it sometime for anything and remember there is no such thing as coincidence,
EVERYTHING is CAUSE and EFFECT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL3fRLx4pHw
This is way beyond your comprehension as the Bible stories are for children,
Here is the True Law
Try it sometime for anything and remember there is no such thing as coincidence,
EVERYTHING is CAUSE and EFFECT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL3fRLx4pHw
This is way beyond your comprehension as the Bible stories are for children,
I would think that Jesus wouldn't take kindly to the wars of aggression the so called Christians are partaking in.
Or the money changers (stock market)
What gives you the right to speak for Jesus?
Jesus can't speak for himself...Pat Robertson has that covered.
I have the right to speak for Santa, Jesus or the Easter Bunny. all the same thing
What gives you the right to call him ''son of ''god''?
Too bad you have never experienced true freedom./ You are a slave to Jesus and yet you sons of bitches wage war on innocent people.
If there is a HELL you are going there.
You can tell he's been into the hash oil when he hits the "Save" button multiple times because he can't remember he already clicked it....
Get some help dude before your brain and liver turn to mush.....or is it too late?
I have the right to speak for Santa, Jesus or the Easter Bunny. all the same thing
What gives you the right to call him ''son of ''god''?
Too bad you have never experienced true freedom./ You are a slave to Jesus and yet you sons of bitches wage war on innocent people.
If there is a HELL you are going there.
I have the right to speak for Santa, Jesus or the Easter Bunny. all the same thing
What gives you the right to call him ''son of ''god''?
Too bad you have never experienced true freedom./ You are a slave to Jesus and yet you sons of bitches wage war on innocent people.
If there is a HELL you are going there.
You can speak for anyone you want but you still have nothing to say.
...and in another twenty years the elderly congregation will be dead and the church will be empty, and the gay minister will have it all to himself. And in forty years the building will have to be sold and it will be converted into a mosque.
It's not enough. What limited interest you have in the subject will eventually lock the doors of your church. And then will you say, I don't care? It doesn't matter to me.
And if you don't think the people who ruled today against Christian marriage are coming for your church and you Bible, then you have not been paying attention to Hillary's campaign speeches.
True Christianity as defined by whom? Orthodoxy began in 33AD, it's holy councils wrote the creed, created the new testament and has taught the same thing since then.
Whatever works for you. If your belief system makes you a better, more happy person I say keep doing what you are doing.
http://www.sgi-usa.org/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL3fRLx4pHw
I like Mike Rivero of WRH saying ''If you don't like gay marriage, don't marry a gay''
And if you don't like the "judge" giving little girls and boys and little lost orphans to gays and pedophiles for adoption, don't marry a gay?
US of A is now officially on the fucker nation list !
Perfect time for Texas to goes from the union.
God is watching.
Mystery Babylon is about to be punished; big-time.
Prepare yourselves.
Your name is very apropo. BIG TIME
So's yours Bro.
America will be punished for its IMMORAL bullying and wars of aggression against innocent people.
''Those who go out side of their borders to wage war will get severe collective karmic retribution'' - Nichiren Daishonin in the Gosho -1253.
"America will be punished...." by who? God? The Dutch?
I don't know why you think Holland is so great, as far as I could see when I was there, the entire country smells of pig manure and is populated mostly by whores, unwed mothers, and drug addicts. Amsterdam is just a big public sewer.
I know a couple of Dutch people who never get tired of telling me how great Holland is. Yet they live here, for some reason.
I lived 35 years in the USA and am Vietnam Vet. I went back to Holland and I know lots of Americans that want to live here but can't because they don't qualify.
Were you NVA or VC?
You are a total fucking idiot. You like most Americunt retards went to the coffee shop and got high legally and though it was so cool. then went to the 3 square block red light district to get your dick sucked and then went home and said you saw the Netherlands.
I live 45 minutes from A'dam and haven't been there in 3 years. It sucks because of fucking slimy Americunt tourists acting like punk juveniles LIKE YOU.
Unwed mothers? hahaah thats pure bullshit. We have very few unwed mothers here., in fact, the USA has the most unwed mothers. as far as drug addicts , very few people used drugs. mostly Americunt tourists in Amsterdam. Cunts like YOU,
Stay the fuck out of my country you goddam son of a fucking crackwhore
That's the way Dutchie, don't hold anything back, let it all out. Let out all of that vile hatred that fills and consumes you to the depths of your very soul. Feel better now?
Now tell me again about inner peace, medatation, and Buddhism.
Young, naive, insecure Dutch girls come by the thousands to America, get drunk, get laid, and get pregnant then go running back home to have their babies and be supported by your nanny government. Ha ha ha. You are paying for some of my kids right now.
yeah... God is a "three strikes you are out" kind of guy... because apparently slavery, indian genocide and abortion didn't cut it. Now we are def going to be punished for this one.
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Kinda funny to see people come so unglued when their slavemasters "grant them more freedums".
Here's a better idea. This fits the "I need more government" types...
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/story/news/local/2015/06/26/backing-into-y...
FUCK the "Supremes"; a bunch of clowns in robes.
LEGALLY....IT'S A STATES RIGHTS ISSUE, AND THE FUCKING US GOVERNMENT HAS NO FUCKING RIGHT TO DO THIS.
Puhlease, can we stop hearing about these fruitcakes now?
Not sure which is more boring... fruits or Greeks...
I knew a guy like you who referred to homos as faggots and fruitcakes. He got a great job at a big company and found out about 6 months after being hired the CEO of the company was gay.
You see, sonny, you can't tell if someone is gay by looking at them. Many are very masculine and not effiminate.
On the flip side, I have seen guys who were very effeminate looking being raging heterosexuals.
I knew a guy like you who referred to homos as faggots and fruitcakes. He got a great job at a big company and found out about 6 months after being hired the CEO of the company was gay.
You see, sonny, you can't tell if someone is gay by looking at them. Many are very masculine and not effiminate.
On the flip side, I have seen guys who were very effeminate looking being raging heterosexuals.
It is unnatural to believe that 2 + 2 = 5. Equating homosexual unions as totally equal to heterosexual unions is unnatural. Homosexuality exists and is in a certain sense “normal,” but it isn’t the same as the ideal heterosexual union, and it’s evil to equate the two as “equally ideal.” Racial equality and race-mixing is unnatural (because if given the chance White men would not allow their females to be systematically and widespread poached by other races) But getting people to believe unnatural things, has preternatural powers. Getting people to go along with things they choke on—that’s power. Getting people to eat shit, and be afraid to complain about it—that’s POWER. That’s REAL POWER!
There's a man going around taking names and he decides
Who to free and who to blame
everybody won't be treated all the same
there will be a golden ladder reaching down
When the man comes around
Whoever is unjust let him be unjust still
Whoever is righteous let him be righteous still
Whoever is filthy let him be filthy still
Listen to the words long written down
When the man comes around
Our enemies see this as a pathetic last gasp of a moribund civilization and it is quite true for our civilization is dying. Identity Christians describe this phase as Jacob’s Troubles and what the secular Guillaume Faye would, I think, describe as the catastrophe required to get people motivated. The future has yet to be written, however I cannot help but think that God's people, the White people, are stirring from their slumber.
No matter what your beliefs regarding homosexual conduct might be, it is a dark day for those who believe in liberty. When five unelected Justices can re-write the Constitution to suit their prejudices, we all suffer. Allow me to illustrate.
Imagine yourself sitting on the bench hearing oral arguments in 1868, shortly after the Fourteenth Amendment was ratified. A litigant comes before you and presents this argument: “The Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution requires a state to license a marriage between two people of the same sex.” Look around you. What is the panel and audience’s reaction? Is it nodding approval, as gay activists insinuate?
If not, what has changed between then and now? There has been no further constitutional amendment, as Article V requires. All that has changed is the attitude of a portion of the population toward homosexual conduct. Gay activists and other so-called progressives believe that is all that is required for the Supreme Court to change the Constitution’s meaning. I do not.
As Montesquieu observed: “There is no greater tyranny than that which is perpetuated under the shield of law and in the name of justice.”
Funny but last time I read the Constitution, I didn't see anything about gays. But I do vaguely remember a clause saying that any powers not explicitly granted to the Federal government were reserved for the states.
I don't really care whether gays "marry" or not. But I do care that the Constitution has been kidnapped by 9 old poofters who force it to say whatever they want it to say.
Greece may have invented democracy, the the US has the distinction of being the country that proved it doesn't work.
Poofters? LOL I haven't heard that for a while. How about shirt lifters?
Actually you are referring to the Tenth Amendment of The Bill Of Rights and not the U.S. Constitution.
Bill of Rights is part of the Constitution.
Putin is laughing his ass off.
Squid
All of Europe is laughing its ass off. WE have had that for YEARS. No big fucking deal. But America always acts like its the FIRST one. Even with their Civil Rights bill . Thats been standard here for decades ..long before the USA had it.,
And our Constitution not only guarantees freedom OF religion but also more importantly, freedom FROM religion. meaning you can't get into someone's face on the street and try pushing Buybull stories on them. Thats called harassment.
Europe has always been a bunch of losers.
City, state and municipal defined pension benefit and health plans were designed based on actuarials. How long will people live, how many are married, how many dependents will be eligible for benefits. Social security, too.
Of course, either these actuarials were ignored or were simply wrong, because pension and health benny funds are in deep trouble . . . before we plop a whole new class of beneficiaries onto the dole.
Homosexuals gravitated to govt work in the 70's and 80's . . .one of the few places they could be assured of no implicit or explicit discrimination, who could blame them.
I understand the moral reservations against the decision, though I don't subscribe to them. My real problem is financial. Extending benefits (survivor bennies, too!) to a whole new class of benficiaries, which SCOTUS created out of thin air, these people will demand to be paid.
Guess who they will demand to do the paying.
Looking back in history, even the Romans, those stalwarts of moral rectitude, who not only accepted but celebrated, homosexuality, bisexuality, beastiality, pedophilia, necrophilia, incent and everything else thought it was a bad idea to enshrine "gay marriage" because it would destroy the fabric of society....
So "yay"....hope and change and all that bullshit, i guess given how far down into fascism the system has gotten and idiocy the sheep have gotten, does it even matter at this stage? Let it ride, the system is completely broken no sense putting a bandaid on the dam anymore.
Personally i don't care either way, and yes it is deviant behaviour, justify anyway you want but it's totally fucked up.....but the govt just shouldn't be in the marriage business..... next is when they force the 3 major US religions to comply.....muslims and jews will probably get a waiver, since that's how fascism works....
Hendrix - Star Spangled Banner at Woodstock 1969
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRECFGlM92s
Hendryx is dead.
Roberts was right on the money when he said that "5 lawyers" have no business enacting a law that should be left to the States, or the people, to decide. When we have five people deciding what is lawful and unlawful, often with total disregard for the Constitution of the USA and just as often based primarily on the prejudices of those five people, simply put . . . we're fucked.
The indisputable conclusion that can be drawn from this disgusting "ruling" is that when some people have a problem, any problem, they only need to go to Big Brother government to do their biddding. This includes the violent use of force to get their way through court edicts. This creates an extremely dangerous precedent by allowing the fickle emotions and whims of the times to trump Constitutionality / Legitimate rule of law. Why even bother with an already absurdly corrupt Congress when you can merely go straight to the SCROTUS to get your way.
This is how the Republic Dies.
Those who use the force of government to get their way in lieu of peaceful cooperation and respect of individual's Liberty only make a case favoring Anarchism as the rational alternative.
Led Zeppelin - Moby Dick live at Royal Albert Hall 1970.
Great drum solo by Bonham
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_nU_VFvIZs
Bonham is dead.
Wow. I wasn't expecting enlightened commentary from you all, but damn, these comments have reached a new low.
I'm investing in a nationwide alternative family law practice.
Just imagine the ramifications of gay divorce.
Lots of money for the law firms, but the most violently contested property will be the wardrobe.
Lots of money for the law firms, but the most violently contested property will be the wardrobe.
Favorite buttplugs and dildos are going to have to be high on that list also . . . . .
One might think so, but it would all depend on the circumstances of said divorce...
If any gadgets or gizmos were involved in any acts of infidelity.
They are replaceable, but a broken heart can only be mended by a lawsuit.
Oh thank God. At least someone here still has a sense of humor.
. . . . but damn, these comments have reached a new low.
Honestly, what were you expecting with this subject matter??
Fair point.
You guys bitch about this USSC ruling which is nothing compared to the total devestation of the Supreme Court ruling about PACS being allowed to bribe your elected officials.
You really have your priorities all fucked up.
America lost its democracy the day of THAT ruling.
IN this and most other modern democracy its a FELONY and TOTALLY illegal for elected representative to take bribes from special interests.
IN the USA its NORMAL and in fact supported by the Supreme Court decision.
4 a guy who hates America
you sure spend a lot of time spouting off on a mainly American site
I think you really are jealous, aren't you.
jealous hatred, the worst kind.
Jealous of what? I lived in the USA for 35 years and am Vietnam Vet. WTF are you talking about?
So you went to the land of the perverts.
Now you can come back here and feel at home.
What perverts? Oh, do you mean the happy families here with women pushing baby carriages and not having to work 3 jobs to keep food on the table?
Take a hike you brainwashed moron.
Thats why I left the USA , to be away from fucktard knownothing morons like yourself.
brilliant
so if you are such a happy person
why are you spouting your hatred here?
Let me guess?
You are stewing in your own mess
Be a man and stop bitching
look at your own crap
I don't spout hatred, I spout the TRUTH about retards like you.
"For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned." - Matthew 12;37
The resident Buybull thumping MORON speaks. For being condemned I have been doing very well for the last 40 years
Now you can spew your total bullshit threat ''Wait until you die and meet 'god'' LOL
Try your scare tactics one someone else.
Viet cong or NVA?
FYI, Bozo this is the WWW invented by a European, Tim Berners-Lee
Tell you what clownboy, I wouldn't move back to the USA for a million bucks. EVER
You really are clueless and not very bright.
If you are so bright why are you arguing here?
Hateful sort of fellow.
I hate fucking retards like you who spew lies and bullshit and deluded notions.
I fight you motherfuckers all the way. Especially when you morons start spewing Babblical passages.
there is a special place for you
it really does exist, I've been there
gaurantee you will shut your stupid mouth there
you got no business calling anyone retarded
misrerable fellow
sad
Beat if fucktard., LOL you are an idiot.,
Beat if fucktard., LOL you are an idiot.,
fox smells it's own hole
that's your hole your smell'n
no wait
that's Denmark
He is an angry inebriated lush, but on that last point I do agree with him....
How do you explain the same tyranny world-wide in the entire world? It is not about rulings; it is an issue of morality and man is a sinner or immoral being by his very nature. As it is written "man is born to trouble as sparks fly upward". Have you noticed in your own life, the lives of others and the nation and the world?
Allowing bribery of politicians is totally wrong, too. I condemn them for that, too.
I thought ZHers were supposed to be libertarians. Some of you all are showing your true colors though. You are only interested in freedom when it comes to your own middle- and upper-class white hetero christian property rights. You LOVE the fact that the government wouldn't allow people to marry for years. And now you're furious that your moral code won't be enforced on the lives of others anymore. Boohoo and fuck off.
Hey, the SCOTUS is ok with perverted individuals marrying, why not go ahead and make child rape ok too?
/sarc of course
This is about attacking Christianity and states rights and is another example of a fallen nation whose destiny is ruin.
So people should be forced to accept your moral code, as you called it? You see your reasoning is circular and apart from the true knowledge of the true God, who is Jesus Christ, you cannot do anything except be circular, for you have no fixed moral compass to guide you...it is referred to as "moral relativism" and the end result is a condemned soul and broken nations and cultures as human history shows over and over.
Want real TRUTH - see if you can handle 4 minutes of it; you will NOT like this at all; you are in the majority.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gub5uaiT3fo
"Jesus Christ"
I rest my case.
Despite all te sound and fury in the above posts- tell me, where's the harm? The mentailty that perceives a conspiracy in all this to undermine America's morals is incomprehensible to me. It's the same mentaiity which led us to believe that the Communists were behing every political uprising during the Cold War, and failed to distinguish one Communist Party from another, to our disadvantage. It led us to Vietnam and 50,000 dead. Where will it take us next, o brave young moralists?
Real immorality is waging war. and Americans are PROS at that. Being homosexual is NOT immoral ,.except in the minds of the total retards here. and the fucking idiot Buybull thumpers.
These same Fucking so called Christians cheer at drone strikes on women and children and invasions of countries that were never a threat to the USA.
Christians aren't making any new converts because most people know it has NO power whatsoever and its chock full of hypocrites and charlatans. Most notably all the preachers
my, you are such a hateful pervert
hows your pucker power
loose sphincter?
follow the butt drool
I guesss anal sex is your thing. NOT MINE. but nice projection there, dumbo. You are a closet case and not even aware of it but your subconcious ramblings show it clearly.
funny
you previously said you had nothing against that
you side with the Muslims too
for a man without a moral foundation
you sure seem to want to straighten everyone out
Based on what?
Your PTSD?
Perhaps you should try this to clear up your clogged brain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL3fRLx4pHw
Quick. in what country was the very first web site? its not the USA so you should find out for yourself.
Quick. in what country was the very first web site? its not the USA so you should find out for yourself.
Quick. in what country was the very first web site? its not the USA so you should find out for yourself.
DUTCH BOY
THE NEW TONI WILSON
got to keep the site entertaining
evil twins!
gosh your smart
very impressive
I hate you but I love myself crap
blah blah blah
Christianity is the only power that is useable. every other power is divided against itself and self destructs.
God doesn't judge anyone. "judge not that thou be not judged"
Good luck.
Jesus Saves
Christianity has NO power. Zilch. Its a big scam for retards like you
The only power it has is to separate your money from you into someone elses' pocket.
Christianity has NO power. Zilch. Its a big scam for retards like you
The only power it has is to separate your money from you into someone elses' pocket.
If you have to ask, then you cannot take this to its logical conclusion. Start by asking if it is moral or natural? If you can begin there, then you have a starting point. BTW - Rome, near its end looks very similar to America and the direction it is going.
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Great to be known and loved by God and glad that my citizenship is not of this earth. If you just read the first 8 chapters of the book of Romans; you will see in chapter 1 verses 18-32, exactly what has transpired in the US since the 1950's. Note the phrase, "God gave them over" as it is repeated 3 times, we have passed the 3rd one as a nation and self-destruction or self-implosion is the future. God cannot be mocked successfully nor can the US change its course...it has reached the point of no-return as God has given the nation over to debased minds as demonstrated our "leaders" & by the people who vote them into office.
The harm is in declaring Free Speech and the exercise of Religious Freedom a crime. Let them get away with this and you won't be able to protest against anything because you will have no right to say anything except what the STALINISTS allow you to say.
Rethink your "where's the harm?" premise.
You can see the down arrow flamer army is out in force today, that's for sure . . . . guess they had to take a break from pecker puffin' and clam shuckin'.
With a name like that you are probably an expert at cumgobbling.
So people who disagree with your hateful comments are members of a flame army? You seem to have a weird obsession with dicks.
he is a closet case like the Marine Colonel in the movie American Dream. I bet he secretly wants to put a liplock on every guy on this thread LOL
he is a closet case like the Marine Colonel in the movie American Dream. I bet he secretly wants to put a liplock on every guy on this thread LOL
THe law of the Land
Well, lets see what the land has to say about that.
Big wave to take out the trash
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