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Tsipras Calls For Referendum In Televised Address
Greek PM Alexis Tsipras has announced a referendum in a televised speech to the nation after another day of fractious negotiations with creditors closed without a deal.
The dramatic move comes after Athens rejected a proposal from the troika aimed at delivering some €16 billion in aid to Greece as part of an extension of the country's second bailout program. From Kathimerini:
The government is considering a referendum on the substance of the agreement, according to recent reports, during the enlarged meeting taking place from Friday night at the Maximos Mansion. The referendum is expected to be held next Sunday, while the prime minister has already informed the political leaders. The prime minister after returning from Brussels convened the extraordinary Governing Council at the Maximos Mansion, which after 23:00 turned into cabinet by attendance of ministers and party executives to discuss the latest developments and next steps in view of tomorrow's Eurogroup.
EU finance ministers will convene in Brussels tomorrow and it appears as though Tsipras is set to turn the tables by threatening to effectively put euro membership to a popular vote.
- GREECE'S TSIPRAS SAYS CREDITORS POSED ULTIMATUM TO GOVT
- GREECE'S TSIPRAS SAYS CREDITORS PROPOSALS ARE AGAINST EU RULES
- TSIPRAS SAYS CREDITORS AIM TO HUMILIATE GREEK PEOPLE
- TSIPRAS SAYS WILL CALL REFERENDUM ON GREEK DEAL WITH CREDITORS
- TSIPRAS GREEK REFERENDUM WILL BE HELD ON JULY 5
- TSIPRAS SAYS HE NOTIFIED MERKEL, DRAGHI ON REFERENDUM PLAN
- TSIPRAS SAYS GREECE IS, AND WILL STAY PART OF EUROPE
- TSIPRAS SAYS GREECE NEEDS TO SEND DEMOCRATIC RESPONSE TO EU
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What does it mean? It's all Greek to me.
Referendum? If Papandreou, a few years ago at the beginning of the Greek Debt crisis, did the same thing, everybody in Europe would’ve been better off by now, i.e. there would’ve been NO MORE EURO. Coulda, woulda, shoulda… ;-)
Attaboy, Tsipras! Attaboy!
Looney
Choices on the ballot:
1. Have your cake.
2. Eat your cake.
(Decisions, decisions!)
C-17 seen unloading Diebold machines in 3... 2... 1....
dont think they use voting machines in greece
I bet they'll vote for moar free shit.
Wow, we're waiting to see if Puerto Rico meets a bond payment on July 1st and Greece votes to another round of bailouts July 5th. Who defaults first??
Ukraine
bla blaaa blaaaaa, you goats suckers, announcing results before the question to the people :
EUROPE IS A FUCKING SCAM, PLAN ACCORDINGLY.
imagine a refendum in merica on whether not we qe(monetize the debt) or not.
imagine a ref. for ending the fed. imagine...currency backed by, imagine, ha lol.
Yes Obama would win 58-42 because the Free Shit Army would prefer to string it out for at least another 18 months to get the new tent ready.
The guy's been called a few things by some on Z/H but has done the right thing rather than stay in the job , collect a salary ( and a few brown bags ) and hide in the mansion, towing the Troika/Gestapo Line.
The hubris of the Neocons in thinking they'll get a Stay In and then put in their own Jerk without turning Greece into a burning cauldron is laughable.
Either way PLAN B with Russia and China is a soft-landing.
Is this your homework Larry?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ht9VZ9RB_w
He said Greece will stay part of Europe. He didn't say Greece will stay in the EMU or the EU. He didn't say Greece will stay with the Euro.
Does free shit include "free" Interest and Principal
Gonna be critical how the yea and nays are worded. Can be messed up real bad like a CA proposition.
Waaaaiiiiit a minute. Saturday was the red line in the sand and so it just got red lined another week, right.
I have heard of referendums where one had to vote Yes for No, and No for Yes.
Most people who were against the referendum and instinctively voted no, and unfortunately did not read, or comprehend what was going on, were shocked by the result.
Do live in Houston TOO! Every damn thing we vote on was written by the bizarro world doublespeak zombies...
All this then a referendum? Just what will the referendum state?
MOAR Whoopie
NOMOAR Whoopie
The fifth-biggest hustle of all time.
ECB Mandate.
News announced on a Monday.
Kabuki on.
FUCK YEAH! Things are starting to get interesting
The vast majority of Greeks prefer to remain members of the EU.
we shall see. moar dick up azz, yea baby, bend the fuck over. vote with vasoline on ballot. no forget that it will gum up the diabold...
I just started 6 weeks ago and I've gotten 2 check for a total of $2,200...this is the best decision I made in a long time! "Thank you for giving me this extraordinary opportunity to make extra money from home. This extra cash has changed my life in so many ways, thank you!" www.earnmore9.com
Brilliant move!
Pay close attention to all the Talking Heads (political/media/government/financial)…
They’re ALL behaving like children caught in an impending divorce; acting out, pleading, soft words, wishful thinking, nervous speculation, denial, emotional disengagement --
You could use it for your doctorate in Psych, Finance and PoliSci !
Good point. There is a sea change in attitudes.
Ratings are in a power dive.
Panic does strange things to people.
"My fellow Greeks!
We, the cradle of Democracy have been presented with an odious proposal and it is time to take a stand!
For years, we have borrowed money at favorable rates AND used this money to build infrastucture, fill our Government, YOUR government buildining with many fellow Greeks and paid them well and promised them - and by them I mean YOU generous pensions, benefits and the like. We also used the money to line our own pockets - and by that I mean NOT YOUR pockets, but it should feel like your pockets, since WE are YOUR government.
Today, the disgusting Germans and their Arian Northern Brothers want us to PAY THEM BACK. Can you believe it! How can we? How could we? We spent it all on YOU and on US - but by US I mean YOU too.
Remember, the idiotic Banks -- you know, the BANKSTERS, THEY were stupid enough to buy our debt. They Kept loaning us more. Did they not know that we are Greeks - the cradle of Democracy? Did they not know that we are compulsive spenders and have NEVER paid our debts? Did they not see that we were spending thier money without any sense of responsibility?
And NOW, they want to Humiliate us! They want us to pay back what we borrowed!
Well, F*ck them! We are Greeks, we are Democracy, we are Solidarity!. We want more money, to continue to pay our bloated pensions, to pad our government offices with more usless staff, to pay our young people to get multiple degrees and stay in school till the reach 55 and then retire.
I tell you, it is OUR RIGHT, as Greeks to have all our loans forgiven AND to receive more money from those Arian bastards AND to continue to live our lives - with DIGNITY. For only as Debtors who will never pay what we borrow from others, can we truely be a FREE and PROUD people and part of Europe - that owes us everything - WITHOUT QUESTION
THank you
Alexis Tsipras
yeah, ok...
and who gave them the fucking Euros????
and who is the Troika REALLY trying to protect from losing their fucking asses????
and why was this bullshit European Monetary Union drawn up in the first fucking place - and by whom????
IT ALL LEADS BACK TO THE MONEYCHANGERS....
the politicians r just the fucking pawns...u'd think that would be understood by now for those with half a brain and even one good fucking eye.....
but carry on Sir.....Thank you,
The International Bankers.
Greek Debt Crisis: How Goldman Sachs Helped Greece to Mask its True Debt
http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/greek-debt-crisis-how-goldman...
exactly....behind every economic catastrophe u will find them....
behind every fucking war u will find them...
Ah yes, the old "The Devil Made Me Do It" rational
I'll bet you that you think you are a person of Principle. So, if I were to ask you would you borrow money that you knew you could not pay back IF IT would have terrible consequences for your family, how would you answer?
If I gave you great terms to borrow money to buy weapons to murder _____ (fill in the blank) would you do it? Would you willingly put your family in harms way because the financing was great?
Would you add massive additions on your house, purchase equipment you didn't need for your business because I have a teaser rate?
But government employees are patsies, eh? Those fucking snales in the grass that got to where they are by being more ruthless and unethical than the other guy - they are little lambs led to slaughter because of low interest rates, etc...
My eyes are open -- yours should be too. Both parties are doing a dance - and it has nothing to do with us -- but everything to do with doing it to us
i'll provide u with the long answer to all of ur questions.
no.
;)
Fuckwit
LOL!!!
...and the reason why Greece must and will stay in the EU, is that even with the looming defaults, the EU will be required to bail-out the banks courtesy of Euro devaluation...so the parasites need memeber countries to be part of that process. If Greece leaves, then they won't be responsible for bailing out the banks. That can't be allowed.
love it.
very nice succinct on the irony and hypocrisy.
very nice writing, sans a few minor spelling errors.
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You're not missing much, he keeps on saying malaca this and malaca that.
Its been years since I have spoken Greek, but I seem to remember that being very rude.
someone finally do something!!
As I recall the last time a mjor politician called for a referrendum they were promply removed from office and replaced with somebody more.... compliant with bank demands.
Gosh. I thought it was the Eye-Ties had that done to 'em. (sarc, they did both as well as Draghi at the ECB, if I remember)
It woud definitely be wise to let the Greek population decide via a referendum. That would indeed be democracy in action -- something the U.S. has long since abandoned.
And in that beacon of democracy EU, referendum rules have been changed so that nowadays it's voted until results are in line with what the masters want.
"nowadays it's voted until results are in line with what the masters want. "
Sounds just like the US CONgrASS: voting, even blindly -'must pass it to see what it is'- without a clue as to what is being voted on.
TPP and the like are voted on until passed. No never means no; it only means that the voting will continue until the result taht the Oligarchy/corporations have already demanded and position to implement and profit from..
We don't need no stinking democracy. we have a POTUS and a SCOTUS and what they say goes. The ultimate in effeciency....making the trains run on time and everybody's dingles tingle.
...Athens rejected a proposal from the troika aimed at delivering some €16 billion in aid to Greece...
aid to Greece, lulz. aid to Greece's creditors more like.
If the host dies, then the parasite dies with him. We can't let that happen, can we?
Not in Alien they didn't
I don't think that Finnish bloke who looks like Willem Defoe in Mississippi Burning will be overly pleased.
Go Greece, stick it up 'em!
Another rigged vote lol. Sure they will vote Pro-eu
Bring this mother fucking game to a close !
Unlimited OT here.
Can't wait to see the referendum question:
Do you think these euro jeans make my greek ass look phat?
Continued on until the next EU bailout.
Scene 10 act 1. Eurocrats act tough and fold like cheap suits.
You know, he does look a little like a Gladiator.
Calling Carl Rove. NWO has a job for you.
It's good to see these puppets turning in almost a full day's work.
I used the term "economic genocide' to describe the tactics the Troika is using against Greece in a previous post and I aslo said that Merckel should shut up, before she gets German re-tarred with this brush. The deal that the Troika is offering Greece is simply using finance as warfare. The Greeks have nothig to loose, they have been blackmailed, threatened and insulted. Greece should adopt a scorched earth policy and simply aim to take the EU down the drian.
He's playing for time and covering all bases from a legal viewpoint. That sounds very familar, a bit like the acts of someone from a country to the north and east of Greece.
Perfectly fair. No way to have your cake and eat it too! "The people" decide. Not the "Troika" or Merkel.
Voting?
Cute. Like that matters.
Tspiras,
During your televised address please include an explanation of the usery that has wrapped it's tentacles around the globe and from where it originates. I never gave my permission for my government to loan itself into oblivion and consequently put me in debt to Satan. I hope your a good orator.
Thanks
What a coward. He got elected by talking tough and promising that he would bring good times. Now that they have run out of the other people's money, he is trying to abdicate his responsibility and pass the buck back to the voters. Man up Tsipras, you leftie weasel. (a lefsel)
The USA doesn't recognize referendums.
Crimea voted overwhelmingly to join Russia
Eastern Ukraine voted ovewhelmingly to be independent of Kiev.
Not completely true, the USA does recognize referendums plotted and organized by the CIA, the MI6, and NATO vassals.
Come on Greece. You were once a great civilization. Do something great this time.
Pull out of the EU and default on all Western debts.
Start a landslide to help bury the NATO crime syndicate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zvl9N9GdraQ