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Very Recent Huge Increase In Quakes A "Game-Changer" For Oklahoma Oil & Gas
Submitted by Nick Cunningham via OilPrice.com,
The recent spike in earthquakes in Oklahoma could present a “game changer” for regulators.
That is how regulators themselves described the spate of earthquakes that struck the state between June 17 and June 24, according to Reuters. Oklahoma has become the most seismically active state in the country in recent years, with a lot of scientific data pointing to the practice of disposal wells as the culprit. Earthquakes with a magnitude of 3.0 or greater have jumped from 20 in 2009, to 585 in 2014. But 2015 could be even worse – if current trends continue, the state could log more than 800 for the year.
The rapid increase in seismic activity prompted new regulations, after a long period of hesitation on behalf of the state, which took effect two months ago. The rules barred drillers from injecting wastewater past a certain depth underground, a threshold that seismologists believe contributes to earthquakes.
But even with those rules in place, earthquakes have not stopped. Over the past week, an estimated 35 earthquakes of a magnitude of 3.0 or greater struck the state.
That has the Oklahoma Corporation Commission, which regulates oil and gas drilling, looking again at regulations. “We have to approach it anew,” an OCC spokesman, Matt Skinner, said after the latest round of quakes, according to Reuters. “There's been a huge increase. That's a game-changer.”
The surge in earthquakes over the past week comes as a June 23 report from E&E that showed that the University of Oklahoma sought a $25 million donation from famed oil executive Harold Hamm, head of Continental Resources. The university pursued his donation as it was also establishing its position on the connection between earthquakes and disposal wells. When completed, their position reflected Hamm’s pretty closely, although he ultimately declined to donate (he is still one of the university’s largest donors). E&E notes that there is nothing specifically linking the donation to the university’s position, but they took place at the same time.
The skeptical approach the university took to earthquakes may have delayed action. The news comes after months of speculation that the Oklahoma Geological Survey, which is part of the university, sat on seismology data that linked disposal wells to the rise in earthquakes over concerns that it would affect the state’s top industry. Oil and gas account for 7 percent of Oklahoma’s state revenues. There has even been speculation that seismologists were pressured into downplaying the connection.
The rate of earthquakes has become too hard to ignore. In April 2015, the Oklahoma Geological Survey took a much stronger position on earthquakes, saying that it “considers it very likely” that much of the uptick in seismic activity is caused by disposal wells. The state government even launched a website with data and information on how disposal wells are contributing to quakes.
But the latest round of earthquakes suggest that the state is still not moving forcefully enough despite new regulations this year. For now, the state has not opted for a moratorium on disposal wells in sensitive areas, as other states have done. Regulators at the OCC had hoped that its light touch would help reduce the frequency of earthquakes over time, and meanwhile, it could gather more data. That approach may not be sufficient. But there is not a lot of appetite within the legislature to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.
On the other hand, if there is a larger catastrophe, the state would have no choice but to finally crack down.
“If there is damage and loss of life, you will see the political climate absolutely change overnight,” cautioned Jason Murphey, a Republican representative in the state legislature, according to Reuters. “When and if that happens, you will have a cloud that hangs over the energy sector for the rest of our lives.”
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Gee, that looks like a hockey stick.
And how deep are the quakes originating? Do they even have that data? If the quakes are known to be originating deeper than any oil operations, then you're just fretting over bullshit, and you should instead be worried about a "big one" for Oklahoma (which has happened in the past).
I always understood earthquakes to be shifts in the Earth's crust because of built up pressure. Wouldn't fracking just be releasing this "natural" pressure in smaller increments, thus avoiding "the big one"?
Lubrication applied to bearing surfaces over their lifetime usually means smooth flow of surfaces.
If, instead, you've got two rusted bearing surfaces that have never been lubricated for many millenia, then you're probably just hastening a massive slip.
Well, hopefully, a hole will open up somewhere and swallow that redneck, money-grubbing gasbag known as Jim Inhofe.
So we're worried about earthquakes that feel like something between a stiff breeze and a truck driving by ???
4.0 — Buildings shake a little. It feels like a truck is passing by your house.
3.0 — You may notice this quake if you are sitting still, or upstairs in a house. A hanging object, like a model airplane, may swing.
2.0 — Trees sway. Small ponds ripple. Doors swing slowly. But you can't tell that an earthquake is to blame.
Are they measuring these around the Walmarts?
Might be a clue rigt there.
BTW stackers, those are some beautiful yabos you got hanging there.
Bitch Tits FTW!
pods
Don't get close to beautiful yabos during a 4.0!
I've know Jim Inhofe for 40 years. He used to be a pleasant, very polite man married to his wife Kay who is an angel. But over the years after Jim became a second term U.S. Senator he turned into an insufferable, arrogant prick. Kay is still an angel.
Where is Max Zorin when you need him?
Lubrication applied to bearing surfaces over their lifetime usually means smooth flow of surfaces.
If, instead, you've got two rusted bearing surfaces that have never been lubricated for many millenia, then you're probably just hastening a massive slip.
^^this^^
I think so, it's like a plate that is in bending or shear the plate structure can take the load via deformation for a while but eventually the external forces overcome the plate's strength and snap.
But there is another possibility with fracking and that is just general consolidation of the soil and rock overburden above the fracking area. Before the fracking rigs came the gas or oil in the rock filled natural voids and the gas or oil acted to transfer loads between adjacent material. However, take out the gas or oil that was under pressure in the voids and you leave a void with nothing. Then, the weight of the soil and rock above that point will cause all the soil and rock to settle, consolidate.
This type of consolidation hasn't occurred naturally or at least observed in nature as the removal of that gas or oil under pressure cannot occur without the artificial process of fracking under pressure. It will be interesting to see entire square miles of land surface subside, perhaps differentially as a result of this consolidation.
But never fear I am sure there are teams of geotechnical engineers, geologists and attorneys building their cases now as we speak/read.
I would believe and fear this more than I would earthquakes from Fracking.
Prediction: either Oklahoma's definition of "earthquake" will change to something like "Less than 5.0 is an anomalous shifting of upper crust extremities" OR the state's regulators will suddenly find themselves really, really busy on more pressing matters. Or both.
Maybe Gaia doesn't take to kindly to being injected with poison while others make profit.
Unbelievable the shit government and corporations get away with while the serfs get jailed for overdue parking tickets and labeled at domestic terrorists when sighting the constitution.
Amerika bitchez!
Maybe. But, depending on how long the pressure has been building, maybe not.
The quakes generally occur in the areas with a lot of natural faults.
http://www.worldcomplex.blogspot.ca/2015/05/earthquakes-and-oil-wells-in...
Damnit man,
You are pissing on these peoples parade.
You cant interject science into the equation.
This topic will be settled by emotion and hyperbole.
Nubee, I think the correlation/causation thing is obvious in certain cases, no?
My left field brain is telling me that perhaps this is being continued on purpose because a highly seismically zone can always be excited into resonant mega-quakes with a few well placed HE devices (especially becaue oil-field plate tectonics are quite well (hah) understood).
Would put nothing beyond the boardroom types...
How far is all this from the great New Madrid anyways?
Hmmmmmmm........
need more solar
Now, waiting for the Big One in Oklahoma.
Bullshit......
Hillary's kankles also are a major cause of seismic activity, are they sure she just wasn't doing extra campaigning in Oklahoma...yaaaalllll.
About 8 months ago in dallas they had some schmexpert on TV saying the quakes were NOT related to fracking etc. Now the USGS has come and said they are. The lies and disinformation never end and they never will. It is HOW they operate. It is their system. http://www.thetruthaboutthelaw.com/they-promote-every-side-to-constantly...
The "game" won't change until the entire biosphere is ruined.
So no worries, investors!!
Hurricanes are good because they return the Earth to equilibrium.
Earthquakes do the same thing. The only people who think differently are those who don't think.
Someone gets it.
http://thecostaricanews.com/eco/are-earthquakes-and-volcano-activity-on-...
"A 1998 report by a scientist from the Beijing Astronomical Observatory… “Earthquakes occur frequently around the minimum years of solar activity.”
As reported on NewScientist.com and numerous other science sites, including Space.com, the sun has recently entered into its lowest (minimum) activity levels in four centuries, coinciding with an increase in global seismic activity. “Solar activity is declining very fast at the moment,” Mike Lockwood, professor of space environmental physics at Reading University, UK, told New Scientist. “We estimate faster than at any time in the last 9300 years.”
Current Solar science looks at Sunspots, Solar Flares (charged particles), Solar Wind speed and density, Magnetic Field Shift, Shifting Ocean and Jet Stream Currents, Extreme Weather (including earthquakes, volcanoes, hurricanes or other extreme natural events), and have concluded that the Earth and the Sun are far more connected than previously thought.
Solar Science shows that these seismic events here on earth (as well as other planets and moons in our solar system) are connected directly to our sun’s activity, and may have more of an impact on climate change than previously thought. This extremely low solar active phase our star is in is projected to be with us for next 30 years along with the heightened climate and seismic activities associated with the phase.
The most recent study by the USGS finds there were more than twice as many big earthquakes in the first quarter of 2014 as compared with the average since 1979.
“We have recently experienced a period that has had one of the highest rates of great earthquakes ever recorded,” said lead study author Tom Parsons, a geophysicist with the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) in California.
It seems that earthquakes and volcanic activity is on the rise and according to many scientific experts we can expect more in the near future."
I have a hard time believing that injecting water into the ground can cause an uptick in earthquakes. That's just the arrogance of man believing he holds that kind of power over the earth. There is a higher probability that there is something bigger afoot.
Check out the "Burning water from Home taps" videos by the dozens by Okies on YT Doc.
Crusts of all sorts actually "Float" on oil or Water (depending).
This is one area where we DO have an observable impact. Fracking fluids are in the water tables. So, rupturing natural barriers, at angles that destroy longitudnal integrity of crustal planes.
By the hundreds in close proximity at that?
Notice I didn't say anything about the water tables that's another topic entirely I'm talking about earthquakes.
Lot's of crusty material with huge internal reservoirs of oil or water or perhaps other fluids deeper down is the matrix of the earth Doc.
Pressures that built the matrix are being relieved one place, increased another....
It's pretty much a shoe-in that it's related.
Ah, I see. Consensus says...... Now where have I heard that before?
I never mentioned consensus Doc. You are projecting, never a good sign ;-)
"It's pretty much a shoe-in that it's related."
Is that not a definiton of consensus?
ORI,
As much as I enjoy your posts, you ought to take a Geology 101 class before you spout some more Gaia bullshit.
The crust does not "float" on oil or water. Oil and water exist in pore space of sedimentary rocks. Have you ever thrown a rock in a bucket of water? Guess what happens? It sinks. Do the laws of gravity not apply beneath the crustal surface?
The crust resides over the mantle which is molten rock. Movement of the crust is derived from convection of the molten rock.
The transition between the crust and the mantle is called the mohorovicic discontinuity, since that is where seismic waves will either be reflected or refracted.
Beneath the continental crust, the moho is between 10-50 miles deep. Beneath the ocean crust, is 3-5 miles deep.
Let me know when you and the rest of your "scientific" upvoters are ready for some Tectonics 101 so we can discuss what the fuck you meant by longitudnal integrity of crustal planes.
Well let's hear it guy, not being sarcastic, i'm interested. You obviously have some background on the topic, you a PG, or just an enthusiast? Either way I'm truly interested in a scientific explaination that would undercut the obvious cause-reaction chart above.
Edit: Saw your post below identifying as a "Licensed Geologist." As a professional, please identify a cause for a 10x increase in earthquake activity in a 5 year period. Again not being sarcastic. I have a natural science background myself, though not in geology, and find the correlation hard to ignore. Thanks.
PG in Indiana, Kentucky and Tennessee.
KY and IN requires passing the ASBOG test. TN was granted based on work experience and college courses.
Ohio (where I live and work) does not license geologists.
Predicting earthquake frequencies and magnitudes are some of the biggest challenges in geologic sciences.
As a trained scientists, you ought to know better that jumping on the correlation = causation bandwagon
That can't possibly be your best answer. This isn't about predicting frequency, this submission is based on documented activity that has already happened and comparing this activity to recorded history. As a trained scientist I would expect you to comprehend my question and the submission of the results above.
As a trained scientist in the energy field (not natural gas/oil exploration), if 1 of our client's sites or surrounding areas shows a causation like that demonstrated above relating our activity or previous activities to something, whether it be earthquakes or groundwater contamination, there would be no bandwagoning about it, you better have cold hard facts as to why you didn't cause it.
Your posts jumping on the "this is junk science" bandwagon and your posts below about groundwater chemistry make me think you may be employed by a natgas/oil exploration firm, just a hunch.
Nope.
Did 9 years for an environmental contractor/dirt work super.
10 years for a landfill gas consultant.
The last 4 years as a consultant for a brownsfield developer.
Nice try.
As I said, "just a hunch." Thank you for clarifying. But that wasn't the purpose of either of my responses.
Answer?
While I find your delfections and lack of intelligent answers annoying and immature, I always enjoy your responses solely bc of your avatar, but that is immature of me... For what it's worth.
North Dakota has very few earthquakes but lots of fracking.
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/states/north_dakota/history.php
Things that make you go hmmmmmmm.
I dont know the reason for the rise in earthquakes in OK. That's not my speciality area. I doubt anyone here on the Hedge is a seimologist actively employed in the field.
All I'm saying is jumping to conclusions that fracking is tied to earthquakes without definative science to back it up is similar to the mania the global warming scammers put upon us in the 90's.
Does anyone remember the Scientific Method or did you all major in bong hits?
"That's not my specialty area" = you're no more qualified than anyone else on this board. Got it, thanks for the contribution.
Scientific method? I think that's what they're workin on there bud. They have THEIR question, hypothesis, study, and results. I was askin for YOURS against it.
Have a good weekend.
When idiots make obviously false statements about the Earth's crust floating on a sea of oil and water, or arsenic concentrations being high near fracking wells, I feel compelled to clear the air.
I dont see anyone else with a degree in geology, geochemisrty or structural geology tearing down my arguments.
Remind me again what scientific experince you have in the field.
....crickets......
I have yet to see you present an argument to be torn down...
You provided a great argument to ORI's post and I up voted you on that. Your response led me to believe that you might be able to provide some useful insight. But you haven't taught me anything in any of your responses to my question.
I never said I have experience in the field, you did, that's why I asked you.
I've noticed you rarely finish a post without an insult. If you checked your ego, people may be more open to what you're saying. I'm not one single one of your down votes... Your attitude comes off more like a kid in his moms basement, not a professional of 23 years.
I'm sorry for challenging you, I won't make that mistake again.
Any response to this will hear actual crickets, cause I'm signing off for the weekend. Have a good one...
Hey sport, you a geophysicist?
I know a passle of them all over the country & their consensus is injection wells are lube & the cause of the quakes.
Geology 101...sheesh
Tectonics 101...put that in your pipe & smoke it.
Dont put words in my mouth, sport.
I never said deep injection didnt cause movement.
I actually agreed with a few who said that injection lessens the severity of the movements. It may increase the frequency, but it also lessens the magnitue as it prevents build up of pressure.
See this http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-26/very-recent-huge-increase-quake...
Another internet trained expert on the Hedge.
Shocker!
Another internet trained expert on the Hedge.
You ASSume sport. As I stated...I know plenty of "Licensed" folks in this field, whether geology, geophysicst or engineer.
You, being unlicensed leads me to believe YOU are the internet trained expert.
I can assure you injection wells DO NOT LESSEN the magnitude.
Now if you want to talk water, I have 2 neighbors who's wells are contaminated with no recourse due to regulatory capture at every level & no hope of city infrastructure. Another 320 acre addition where the wells were contaminated years ago & the city brought in the infrastructure. Flouridated of course.
So don't put words in my mouth & STFU.
Dont worry pal, I have three PG certs.
IN, KY and TN.
You wouldnt make it past the first 2 quetions on the ASBOG test before crying to your mommy.
You wouldnt make it past the first 2 quetions on the ASBOG test before crying to your mommy.
You're right vagenius cuz eye dunt no wat a quetions is. Do you axe it?
That's some funny shit right there pal.
Oh & BTW I never mentioned my field now dead eye?
So typos arent allowed? I'll be sure to discipline my keyboard for that.
You know what they say about arguing on the internet?
Wow, your comments are usually sensible.......but not this one. With the press of a button, man has the power to destroy most of the species on this planet. You can observe this process happening at a much slower pace and, and with much less overt violence, in the Pacific Ocean right now. Thanks Japan!!
With a bit of research, you would discover that we do not need to influence the entire planet. We live on the crust. The complete crust is about 1% of the earth's total mass. If the earth was the size of a basketball, the crust would be about the thickness of a sheet of paper. So, yeah, man does have the capability to totally screw it up. It's what we do.
Big difference between being able to destroyed life on the planet and destroy the planet. The planet will be fine, it's the people who will be fucked. The planet has survived 12 billion years and there's been much worse thrown at it then what we humans can do. The damn thing was hit by another planet which gave us the moon for cripe's sake. The planet will recover from whatever damage we do too long after we are gone.
so I understand by your spiel you are NOT a homosapien?
I, being one, am more concerned about human life than about the planet without life.
But that's just a personal slant!
Sorry, but you miss the point. We can do nothing to harm this rock on a permanant basis.... nothing. The earth will heal no with or without us.
"That's just the arrogance of man believing he holds that kind of power over the earth."
Have you recently changed your medication? I was responding to the above quote. Also, you comment on the origin of the Moon like it is a decided fact. It is not. There is considerable uncertainty as to the Moon's true origin. Theories are not facts. By the way, the best thing that could happen to this lovely planet is the extinction of the human species. Just sayin'..........
I fail to see how you can not put the two together. You responded to my comment (which was about our ability to permanently damage the planet) with a comment about a local environment. The planet has been bombarded by asteroids, solar storms, electro-magnetic storms and still life survives. There is nothing we can do that will harm the planet on a permanent basis. Once again, it's the arrogance of man who believes that we can.
Ah, now I understand. You are a man of many assumptions. Personally, I prefer facts.
So you're saying none of that stuff happened? Seriously? And you call yourself a man of facts? I suppose the planet just magically appeared and there have been no mass extinction events in the past. Wow, I've heard it all now.
Which stuff Dr. Assumption? Your comments have been all over the map thus far.
My comments? You're the one who suggests that the planet hasen't been bombarded by asteroids, electro-magnetic storms, and much more over the past 12 billion (yes that's billion with a B not 6,000) and still life survives. I would like to say it's been nice chatting with you, but once a person turns to name calling like a twelve year old, I'm pretty much done with them. Have a nice weekend.
" You're the one who suggests that the planet hasen't been bombarded by asteroids, electro-magnetic storms, and much more over the past 12 billion (yes that's billion with a B not 6,000) and still life survives."
I never made any such claims or comments. You are clearly confused, and or mistaken. By the way, Mr. ASSumption, the scientific "consensus" is the age of the earth is around 4 billion years. Please substantiate your 12 billion years statement. Also, I am unsurprised that you won't be more specific about your comments, as I requested. You are exhibiting typical internet troll-like behavior, which tends to confirm my suspicion that Dr. Engali's account has been hacked.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth
Dr. Engali, you made this comment:
"I have a hard time believing that injecting water into the ground can cause an uptick in earthquakes. That's just the arrogance of man believing he holds that kind of power over the earth. There is a higher probability that there is something bigger afoot."
Here is my original comment regarding your above comment:
"Wow, your comments are usually sensible.......but not this one. With the press of a button, man has the power to destroy most of the species on this planet. You can observe this process happening at a much slower pace and, and with much less overt violence, in the Pacific Ocean right now. Thanks Japan!!
With a bit of research, you would discover that we do not need to influence the entire planet. We live on the crust. The complete crust is about 1% of the earth's total mass. If the earth was the size of a basketball, the crust would be about the thickness of a sheet of paper. So, yeah, man does have the capability to totally screw it up. It's what we do."
And then you replied with loads on non-factual, assumption based, drivel.
"There is nothing we can do that will harm the planet on a permanent basis."
Your understanding of science is clearly insufficient, based on your rambling generalizations. You are starting to sound more like a troll in your attempts to defend your, largely inaccurate, comments.
So you're saying that the planet didn't go on after these five known events?:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/extinction_events
Or this:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/earth/earth_timeline/late_heavy_bombardment
I did not, in any way, shape, or form, say any such thing troll boy. Try actually reading my comments.
I'm guessing that 12Billion are dog years, or did I miss a new scientific update in my twatter feed this morning.
You did not. Dr. Troll seems to have hacked Dr. Engali's account and is extremely factually impaired......to put it mildly.
Correct Doc.
As a licensed geologist, I concur.
Why arent we seeing an increase in earthquakes in OH, PA ND and other startes where fracking is being conducted?
This is junk science at its best and the non-scientifically trained here at the Hedge eat this crap up.
Tell that to my cracked slab on my home guru
Duh,
I have a cracked slab beneath my house too.
Mine is caused by a tree root. Others are caused by shrink/swell clays and others are caused by shitty compaction around the foundation.
Assuming your is caused by fracking shows what an ignorant fuck you are.
I built this home myself ten years ago with slump tested3000 pound mix, thicker than code with extra steel on compacted gravel. and Im not even in the epicenter of the problem. You should hear all the propterty damage from North Texas, tens of thousands of homes with cracked walls ect.. Yea its real funny until its your water well getting polluted. Long as its not in my neighborhood right? Go fuck yourself you fucking oilfield trash.
We never even heard of earthquakes here my whole life until this.
You stup0id fuck. You don't know shit about building, where to plant your trees, Hydrology/hydraulics or Geology.
Cracked slabs caused by soil conditions are very common in some areas. Look at Jackson MS. Cracked slabs are a common homeowner issue, no fracking within 500 miles.
Ever been to Dallas?
Half the freaking foundations in that town are cracked due to shrink swell clays.
Did you have any geotech work done before you built that slab like a responsible developer would?
Of course not. You'd rather play the blame game instead of accepting the fact that you fucked up by ignoring the load bearing and movement capabilities of your subsurface. You sound like a FSA fuck blaming someone else for your failures.
BTW, I didnt build the house or plant the tree.
You Idiot, Can"t you read. I poured on compacted gravel with a substrate of almost solid rock under that. We are not in a clay type soil and did not have craking problems here. Job skeerd corporate yes man suck ass little worm
Did you do a proctor on your gravel or compaction testing to prove to hit at least 90% of your proctor?
Again, you failed at completeing the basic steps of foundation construction.
Geotechnical analysis of load bearing capability and compaction testing.
Cry me a river.
I poured concrete for a living for four years and I don't need some punk college kid telling me what to do.
I've done enough 80-100 yard pours to know that's shitty work. That was back in the early 90's just after graduation.
Congrats on advancing to being the broom man.
Did you retire with a golden trowel?
but, but, but, @ cowdiddly, he's got 3 PG certs!
with retsyn.
he may be able to read but his comprehension is lacking.
Bunghole,
There have been a series of small eathquakes in the Bakken though. Since you are a geologist I will let you decide if the uptick is significant or not. I haven't found a USGS map of earthquakes in the region that has been updated since 2012 so this will have to do, I also have numerous local news articles about the quakes. One was admittedly directly centered on a disposal well site along the river.
http://earthquaketrack.com/us-nd-williston/recent
8 total quakes in the last 40 years all around 3-3.5 magnitude.
I dont see an increase in quake activity or magnitude in your link.
You really can spin that shit bunghole. Which energy company are you contracted with?
Sorry, assclown.
I work in the environmental field for a developer.
Never worked in Big Oil except as a college intern for Cabot in Pittsburgh.
I agree fully.....you are an ass clown.
This coming from a guy who spent 4 years on his knees raking mud.
Yeah, I'm the fool.
Should't you be out cleaning your wheelbarrow?
Based on your comment above, that sounds more like a job for you dirt boy.
Dr. Bruce bolt thinks that deep water injection causes earthquakes.
You can read about it in his book 'Earthquakes'. Its in its sixth edition.
Squid
Depends upon the pre-existing stresses as well as composition and porosity of the strata being injected into.
http://stateimpact.npr.org/pennsylvania/2012/01/23/could-fracking-earthq...
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/state/headlines/20150618-supercharged-inj...
You may be right Doc,,, but what if your not?
Both possibilities need serious attention.
I agree, but I tend to be skeptical when a consensus is formed without a thorough examination of all possibilities.
This is the same as globull warming except with fracking, the science is settled.
If you are a denier, the Justice Department will sue you.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/06/video-dem-senator-calls-on-doj-t...
Except when it comes to the origin of the Moon I guess.
You're right to be skeptical. None of us were there, but the planet was..... and stil is.
You demonstrate all the clear thinking and logic of a plastic potted fern, Dr. Troll.
Industry destroying litigation incoming. And not a minute too soon. Who still accepts anything from scientists working in a field where money controls everything? Like energy and medicine for example.
Just what the world needs,not, more rich lawyers.
Those liars sure drive a hard BAR-GAIN (wink wink), eh?
Guess they're finally quaking in their boots. What do you expect when you're splitting rock!
The grand solar minimum that is bringing the mini ice age causes the New Madrid Fault Zone to fracture every 200 years. The fracking may aggrevate the situation, cause the fault to register one or more 8+ magnitude quakes and cause the meltdown of 30 nuclear reactors in which case I won't be spending any more summers in Pittsburgh.
This would affect CLR more than anyone.
Ongoing negotiations between State Regulators and the 'Stangelove Corporation' headed by non other than Fusion Glowfinger' re their application to build a new 'facility outside the city, are as we speak being 'Heavy'ly watered' down !. Mr Glowfinger when asked "is it the Right place to site a new 'fision based power station in Oklahoma replied, I see no reason not to build a new reactor when 'Tsunamis' are rare in this great state of ours!.
That has the Oklahoma Corporation Commission, which regulates oil and gas drilling, looking again at regulations.
Yes, and one of them is an O&G attorney.
Follow the contributions.
Oil money built the Sarkeys Energy Center and it is unlikely that you'll get straight answers regarding quakes from anyone on the OU campus.
http://www.oeta.tv/blogs/onr/lawmaker-sugggests-splitting-off-ogs-from-ou/
Tell me what is more disgusting:
-) Ignorant dumb 99.99% sheeple constantly looking the other way while greed takes over this planet
-) Ignorant dumb greedy 0.01% taking over this planet
Both
This guy is a good source for monitoring frackquakes:
Dutchsinse | "Because every dark cloud has a silver IODIDE lining."
Maybe Big Oil should start fracking in Yellowstone??
Maybe they could find oil there??
The Yellowstone area has been drilled. I know an old guy who was part of it. He said they took gas hits that scared the living hell out of them. I am not sure if it was fracked or what type of well. The map of oilfield injury sites in Wyoming give a better picture than any USGS maps that are easily found for some reason.
http://www.drillingmaps.com/wyoming.html#.VY2WY5VFBjo
Probably not a good idea to start drilling deep holes in a super volcano.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/09/120920-yellowstone-super...
but it sure could quickly convince a lot of sceptics
that fracking is perhaps not te best way to go
Funny how the anti fracking Putin troll retards are silent on Ukraine isn't it?
and when I say silent they support ObamaEUistan regime and oppose Putin.
Wow they can't be that stupid can they?
The wastewater is sometimes contaminated with radiation or worse toxic chemicals from the geology below like arsenic, deep geologic sequestration is the ideal place for it.
Limiting the depth of waste water injection increases the likelyhood of potable water contamination.
Drinking water is drawn from relatively shallow wells, 300' or less.
Arsenic is naturally occuring. So is radiation. Ever hear of Radon?
Go drill 100 groundwater wells and sample the water for arsenic.
Go drill 100 boreholes and sample the soil for arsenic.
90% of them will test positive for arsenic. 25% will test positive over the federal MCL for water or direct contact standards for soil.
America is fucked because we have a bunch of internet trained "scientists" running their mouths on social media and internet forums, esposing bullshit science.
with the same concentrations? I would bet not.
Google background arsenic concentrations in your state
Then google USEPA Region VI (or whatever region you are in) direct contact standard.
You tell me smart guy.
http://www.tulsaworld.com/archives/drinking-water-standard-for-arsenic/a...
Although I'm still waiting on an answer from Bungholio above, I agree with him on this part. You shoulda left Arsenic outta your argument.
There are relatively new ideas regarding the resoning for elevated arsenic numbers in groundwater near gas wells, bc cornholio is correct in the fact that arsenic is natural and native at sometimes high background levels. The explaination for concentrated levels near gas wells, I've been told, is that at a microbial level the breakdown of petroleum hydrocarbons "liberates" arsenic that would otherwise be bound in the soil and allows it to pass to the groundwater. This is a pretty simplified explaination but somebody correct me if I've been told wrong.
Arsenic is a redox sensitive element, therefore fluctuations in pH caused by fluid injection can cause arsenic to become mobile.
It will also, like most metals, bind to suspended clay minerals in groundwater.
Improper groundwater sampling methods can lead to elevated concentrations due to turbid water samples.
US EPA knows this and allows for groundwater samples to be field filtered using a 5 micron in-line filter to remove suspended sediment.
Arsenic, while dangerous in elevated concentrations, gets a bad rap since it's so prevalant.
Good job on this one bung, you responded w knowledge and reason. I thank you for contributing this. Hope to have a good back and forth w you again soon.
I hate to remind people, but a 3.5 magnitude earthquake is equivalent to the vibration felt when a loaded dump truck passes on the road outside. Most people never even feel them. Damage? Next to none.
Is there proof that these earthquakes come from Fracking? Oklahoma has earthquake fault zones, you know.
The theory is that water injected into the rocks lubricates existing faults and causes them to slip.
The proof is simply to look at a graph of the number of earthquakes and plot over top when fracking started. That will show what you need.
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