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And This Is How NATO Member Turkey Celebrates Gay Rights

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As America celebrates Gay Pride weekend with more exuberance than normal just 2 days after SCOTUS momentous decision, NATO ally Turkey appears not so keen for the lesbians, gays, bisexuals, and transgenders to walk the streets of Istanbul with rainbow flags...

 

Caught on tape...

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It was all going well..

 

And then this...

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#LoveLosesInTurkey

 

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Sun, 06/28/2015 - 16:20 | 6245946 nevertheless
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Well said, why people believe they can use THEIR religion in an argument, is astounding. Especially when that religion (christian) has presided over some of the WORST HUMAN GENOCIDES in history.

 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:12 | 6244992 Billy the Poet
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"I see no where in nature where homosexuality is created by "natural law""

Your opinion in regard to the sex lives of others is irrelevant. You have no right to tell others how to live their lives as long as they do not cause physical harm to you or your property. People have a right to make what you may consider to be mistakes.

 

 

""Christian baker has a right to sell them breakfast pastries"

Don't leave out the gentile blood jew boi!"

 

Yeah, you're not crazy.

 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:34 | 6245158 Loose Caboose
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JessieSharpton, If sex was just for procreation then people, including hetero's are doing it way too much.  By your reasoning, women should stop having sex after menopause since they can't produce a child.  If natural law worked the way you surmise, we would only get horny when we want a child and pregnancy is possible.  I guess birth control is evil as well since we are having deviant sex that does not produce offspring.  Every guy with a vasectomy or who is sterile is breaking natural law when they engage in sex.  I suppose old hetero couples, say after 50, should not get married since children are not possible.  I guess we are all going against natural law.  Oh, and by the way, unless you live under a rock, you know that the latest craze is anal sex between men and women.  So sticking it up a woman's tail pipe is different from a man's?  How?  I am strictly hetero but what two people do with mutual consent is nobody's business and who someone decides is a good life partner is their choice alone.  The plumbing and the ability to procreate is not a rational argument anymore. 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:54 | 6244866 LibertarianMenace
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Yeah, that and I'd like to see the healthcare stats that compare the queer costs vs those who are not so confused. Big mouth pop pseudo Science, you there? Queers got your tongue? I thought so.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 19:16 | 6246773 ebear
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"I'd like to see the healthcare stats that compare the queer costs vs those who are not so confused"

Put 'em alongside the stats for morbid obesity and you've got yourself a bet.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 20:00 | 6246941 LibertarianMenace
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Yeah, and? Add caloric intake and BMI numbers, and include alcohol, nicotine, and drug consumption etc. etc., as part of the premium questionnaire if you want insurance. But these cost predictors can't be disclosed, because to do so, would be, um, discrimination, and not just pricing in the expected costs of coverage.

Don't need no welfare state, everybody pulls their weight. But as usual, that's what all this is about: money, and what saps can be made to pull the weight of others.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:59 | 6244895 nevertheless
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I agree, and would say not all gay people feel the way the MSM says they do. Understand, this is just another device the media uses to divide Americans.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 15:31 | 6245752 logicalman
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Looking at MSM about 2/3 of the top of web pages has been about gay marriage in US

An awesome distraction.

I wonder what the magician's other hand was doing while evryone was looking at the distraction.

 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 15:39 | 6245778 LibertarianMenace
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We should know logic, as we're watching that other hand: look next door to the Aegean. Test, this is only a test. Had this been a real emergency, you would have been directed to....they're not quite there yet, so in the interim they're feeding us rainbows.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 19:18 | 6246781 ebear
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I expect anyone who'd be drawn into this sort of shallow polemic isn't looking at the big picture anyway, so what's the difference?

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 21:48 | 6247322 LibertarianMenace
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I heard another phrase something like it just recently. I expect that "the difference" referred to then mattered big time to someone. I'm not so sure about the flip side of your argument. Even if you have your eye on the big picture, and further, prefer to engage in the intrinsically "deep" polemic that the same apparently requires, really, what difference does THAT make? <s>Perhaps the entire bottle of sleeping pills should be consumed this evening, after all, what's the difference, one more or less, on this rock?</s>

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 15:47 | 6245823 nevertheless
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You speak in such generalities, your points are meaningless. I am gay, and I don't wish the government to force any business to do what they don't wish to. I will however support a public boycott of such a business, which is my right.

Why is it, you and hater likes you, need to group ALL gay people together? You would think, maybe, that people, regardless of who they self identify with, might nevertheless, still have unique opinions. The fact that you can't perceive that, is what makes you a bigot and useless.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 14:30 | 6245443 dogismycopilot
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Hey fuck stick, what do you think was happening before? Everyone was minding their own business til the gay nazi army came out and just bum rushed the States. I was minding my own business and now they are infringing on my rights to tell them to fuck off if I want to because it is in theConstitution they can suck cock in a church and sue the minister for telling them to get out. As for marriage, I guess soon they will start implanting utereses in men soon and they can start shitting out babies so yeah I guess soon you will be saying biology doesn't matter either.

Lastly, here is the thing about politics and you better wise up soon: you may not take an interest in politics (or faggts) but they will take an Interest in you.

This is about power. Stop being so naive.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:33 | 6245133 Dathedr
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Then you shouldn't have anything against the promotions of pedophiles, which I am sure you don't. After all you liberal Western scum are well-known immoral trash of the world. Pedophiles should also have the right to promote or celebrate their... culture according to this peace-loving, freedom-seeking, degenerate, retarded Western hippie scum. Pedophiles, necrophiles, zoophiles and other deviant, perverted liberal freaks are also people... and humans, right liberal trash?! ehehehehe

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 15:34 | 6245769 logicalman
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Fucking bullshit.

What 2 consenting adults do with their bodies is one thing.

An adult taking advantage of the innocence of a child is a totally different thing.

Idiots like you are also people - the rest of humanity has to put up with the likes of you.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 17:38 | 6246363 Dathedr
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Not all children participating in those pedophilic perversions are not doing it against their will, you stupid trash, and those having sexual intercourse with animals or dead people... I don't think they are taking anyone against their will as well! Many children who end up in pedophilic perversions do it by their own will, either by being paid generouslly, or by being tricked. And I seem to not even mention one very popular degeneration amongst you liberal Westerners. Sodomism. Are you a sodomite, dumb liberal scum? Do you like taking objects into your asshole, liberal trash? Scum!

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 21:25 | 6247206 logicalman
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I guess you missed the bit about consenting adults.

I don't think bribery or trickery are the same as consent.

An animal can't say yes.

Other than that, I think you may be onto something....

I think it's called closed minded bigotry.

How does it feel to have a room temperature IQ?

 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:55 | 6244529 suteibu
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Yes, the "gay pride" movement is not about oppression and equality, it is an agenda to destroy the family.  Confucius identified the family as the core of society over two millennia ago.  In order for the elite to have full control, they have to destroy the family.  The family is being assaulted in every way, this is just one of them.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:10 | 6244600 thatthingcanfly
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Concur.

And we are helping them do it every time we use their slang. The word "gay" means happy, joyful, full of glee. The word "straight" means without bend or curve, horizontal or vertical, etc.

Using the former to refer to homosexuals suggests that the act of a man placing his penis inside another man's rectum makes him happy or joyful. Using the latter to refer to non-homosexuals suggests stiffness, insensitivity, and social awkwardness.

But in reality, there are no "gays" or "straights." There are homosexuals, and then there are normal people. 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:22 | 6244663 Billy the Poet
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Cisnormal.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:25 | 6244669 Kirk2NCC1701
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And not just "the Family".  It's much bigger than that.  As I keep saying...

"When ALL bonds of family, tradition, culture, personal and national independence are weakened, corrupted or eliminated, then so are all forms of organized and sustainable forms of resistance to the Globalist Neocons and TPTB." -Kirk 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:29 | 6244707 Billy the Poet
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In THX-1138's world everyone gets a room mate. Male or female, doesn't matter as everyone's so doped up they have no urges.  And now we have this word "partner" which is supplanting the word spouse not only in homosexual relationships but heterosexual ones as well. Seems like they want to disconnect the individual from a support network but basic human nature demands at minimum a single companion who can also double as an informant to the state if necessary (for the benefit of the aberrant partner of course).

JTOL.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:21 | 6245060 LibertarianMenace
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Ah, in future everyone will be oiled and chipped. Easier to drive over that way.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:07 | 6244963 nevertheless
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What a bunch of ignoramuses. Thanks for telling gay people what "gay pride" is about, and you would know that how? Your a typical pawn, playing right into the powers that be. They pit north and against south, white against black, women against men, and your ilk against gay people. there is NOT "gay agenda", you troglodyte. There is a desire for all Americans to get equal justice under the law, that means they can marry who they please.

 

You ilk is part of the problem with America, identity politics, you buy into the "they are trying to destroy the family" BS. They/I could give a crap about who is breeding and over populating the earth, I just want AND GOT, the same social security rights and inheritance rights that you got b.tch.

Move to Turkey, please, your NO American.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:11 | 6244981 TheMeatTrapper
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"There is a desire for all Americans to get equal justice under the law, that means they can marry who they please."

No. It means we honor the Constitution and allow the individual States to decide the matter as they see fit, and people are free to move to a State where they wish to live. 

Instead, you and your type insist on forcing your vision of right and wrong on everyone else; in direct violation of the Constitution. 

The next time you want to talk about justice, you may want to actually read the Constitution so you'll know exactly what you are ignoring.

Move to Turkey please, you are no American.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:21 | 6245059 suteibu
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So anyone who doesn't agree with your point of view is an ignoramus?  You discredit any argument you make with this statement. 

Perhaps you fail, in your exuberance to foist your lifestyle on the rest of us, to understand you are being used to drive an agenda.  Gays are not going to take over the world but they will be used in an attempt to do that. 

You must realize that nature will deselect the gay community over time, don't you.  You are on a road to ultimate extinction.  The backlash for forcing your lifestyle on the rest of the world will be extreme.  Turkey is just an example.  You probably believe that the government there is the problem but, just like in the rest of the world, the people ultimately won't stand for it.  For humanity to survive, men and women must form families.

Enjoy your victory, it will not last over time.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:57 | 6245268 nevertheless
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Yup, when it comes to limiting others rights, the word ignoramus, that is a better word than what you actually deserve.

"Exuberance to foist your lifestyle on to the rest of us" there you exemplified my point, what in the world have I done, to you (and don't say "us", most Americans DON'T harbor the same bigotry as you)? Because I DEMAND EQUAL RIGHTS? Fuck you, I pay my taxes (OVER 45K just in taxes last year mind you), I served honorably in the military, and my acquiring the same rights YOU ENJOY is foisting my lifestyle on you, STFU. One thing I am sure, you, like many haters on here, relish in your anonymity, the bastion of a coward. 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 14:04 | 6245303 suteibu
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Is your real name "nevertheless?" 

I suppose now you can reveal your homosexuality to everyone.  The law is on your side, so show us you are not a coward. 

I do not hate you.  But surely you hate me.  Ultimately, your hate will cause you more damage than my beliefs ever could.  Keep hating everyone who does not agree with you and destroy yourself.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 15:51 | 6245846 Realname
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Anyone who doesnt agree with the homosexual lifestyle is always branded a bigot or homophobe. Most dont care whats done behind closed doors between consenting adults but we dont want it paraded in our faces 24/7. So, according to your ilk, we are all bigots... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP9Ag5aoE6I

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 14:02 | 6245288 nevertheless
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Your a joke, "enjoy your victory", this idiot is not a war, and as usual your ilk looks for fights among the masses. Yes, work hard limiting others rights, while yours slip away. You are a perfect drone, little fascist who cares not for others rights, and THUS will loose your own.

 

As for lasting over time, again, you display you limitless stupidity, America will not last over time, much in thanks to self-righteous bigots like you, well done.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 15:30 | 6245745 Miffed Microbio...
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For someone who has been here little over a week you certainly are confident, cocksure and dogmatic. You are an indoctrinated arrogant purveyor of the same old garbage ideology that has been touted in this country for the last 40 years.

The militant gay lobby is one of many things that is destroying this country. Frankly I could give a rats ass who people. But they want the freedom of fucking what and whomever they want and yet none of the responsibilities of their actions. Why should I be forced to help those who do such a thing.

A right means no one must be forced to provide it for you. Therefore, air is a right. Healthcare is not.

Miffed

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 15:39 | 6245790 logicalman
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I always thought you were smarter than that.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 19:15 | 6246771 suteibu
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Huh...I thought you were. 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 21:25 | 6247208 logicalman
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I am.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 23:30 | 6247742 suteibu
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You really aren't as smart as you think.  You should reconsider your hubris.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:50 | 6244495 DanDaley
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In the US they are a "protected class" in that they have protections that the average caucasian, hetero, working schmo does not have. So no, it's never about equality where the divide-and-conquer statists are concerned.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:00 | 6244552 Son of Loki
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True. Straight white males are becoming more unequal every day.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:04 | 6244564 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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Claims of humiliation are classic fascist rhetoric, used to drum up hatred. 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:10 | 6244601 Praeda2
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I'm sure that's what you've been told your whole life in the cuck nation of Sweden.

Couldn't possibly be any ones BEHAVIOUR now, could it? No haha because you probably also espouse the idea that, there's no right and wrong. Right you degenerate? haha.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:13 | 6244998 TheMeatTrapper
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"Claims of humiliation are classic fascist rhetoric, used to drum up hatred."

He makes no claims of humiliation. He simply states fact. 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:24 | 6245082 nevertheless
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What is the "fact" that you are talking about...this should be good

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:22 | 6245071 nevertheless
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Isn't it nice to read the hate from these idiots. I read on right wing web sites how "evil Russia" is for how it treats gays, and yet, knowing that they would be supporting the same laws in America.

To hear about the "GAY AGENDA", lol, what does that even mean? So gay people can now marry and get the right to the same benefits that every other US citizens enjoys, and that's an "bad thing".

These people are truly a disappointment, they show how lost America is, so easily manipulated by their hate and prejudices.

I mean, the one guy talking about the desire to destroy the family, I mean really? This is all from the corporate MSM playbook, divide and conquer.

A truly ignorant bunch, and truly sad. America does not deserve what it has, thus it will be taken way.

And when they bring God into it, you know they have lost it, Christ never mentions homosexuality, he focuses more on poverty and love, too bad these troglodytes don't follow his example.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 16:33 | 6246000 general ambivalent
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Cave men seemed to have it right. Gay and transgendered people were not attacked or ridiculed, nor were they allowed to take leadership of the group. They were respected, given all the rights of the tribe. Generally they would live with the women. They were considered their own people, but also not given any chance to 'procreate'.

This makes the most sense, do not ridicule or isolate them, but also do not let them multiply for it is not natural. The fact that homosexuality is now multiplying so quickly suggests how sex has become primarily political and not at all about procreation (let alone procreation for the best of the species). And this is a repetition of the politicised sexuality of Greece and Rome where boys were often in 'relationships' with elders of the aristocracy and politicians. This was considered a rite of passage, in a sense, so that the boys would then become part of the political power in their time.

If we consider the politics of our time, especially its cultural aspect, we can say that there is a push to emasculate/demasculinise men (all the hatred for men in the media, the slightest traditional comment could cause you to lose your job for 'toxic masculinity'), destroy the traditional family, equate to/financialise the economy for the better half (feminism supposedly), and present a passive and sheepish image. This latter aspect is clear in that the media does not portray gay men as the bears looking to have as much sex as possible in an aggressive way, but the funny, innocent girly-men who take care of our girlfriends and just really like fashion and want to raise babies themselves.

The disconnect between this absurdity and the absurdity of the gay reproductive rights scene in The Life of Brian suggests where we are politically. It is political, there is no denying it. It is just like the traditions in Greece and Rome, more about political relationships than sexual relationships, and hardly at all about family or community relationships. One need only look to the imagery of sex toy flags, there is a cyborg/technological aspect to gay sexuality where people have lost respect for other people and now must rely on technology for sexual relief. Gay pride is completely wrapped up in alternative business, liberal university movements, political protest movements, technocracy, media, etc. There is a political push behind these movements.

It is also important to consider the absurdity of runaway progressive equality. Again, the classic Life of Brian scene is the best example. Equality, when taken to its absurd conclusion, means that no matter how different I am I should have all the rights that you have. So I should have the right to reproduce, I should have the right to be a man as well as a woman. In other words, groups who represent only 1-10% of the population will demand equivalence with the rest of the population not only in the sense of having their rights but actually appearing as an equally powerful group. For true democratic negative liberty/equality, the powerful group must be cut down to appear at the same level as the minority groups. This is why there are loud celebrations of Gay Pride with demands for heterosexual participation while at the same time a push to make men appear as less masculine and have all relationships use homosexual cultural referents as their base. At the extreme end of this problem we see the homofeminist socialist states demanding that infants have a right to choose their gender. We are truly living in the People's Front of Judea sketch.

In short, it is inevitable that this would happen in a society based around tall poppy syndrome. The tall poppies are cut down to make the less visible poppies stand out. And as Plato so long ago suggested, the love of boys is essentially a deep confusion which can lead to total madness. It was quite a stand in his day to oppose these political relations, and it is similarly brave for people today to oppose the homosexual and feminist political imperative.

What you may not get is that people use a lot of the derogatory jokes because they are trying to reveal some truth, and because homosexuality has become the new Victorian prudishness.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:22 | 6245072 Dathedr
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You have no idea what you are talking about, you degenerate retard!

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 14:05 | 6245311 nevertheless
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LOL, why write anything when you have absolutley nothing to say? Is that an insult, from the mind of a bigot, what care I? You know as little of me as you do anything, of that I am sure.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 14:19 | 6245370 Dathedr
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Fuck off, you degenerate liberal trash! There is nothing to talk about with you degenerate trash, but to kill, scum!

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:24 | 6244677 El Vaquero
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As long as gay people understand that taxes fucking suck, I could care less.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:34 | 6244740 Billy the Poet
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I'm a big fan of your posts so please take this in the intended spirit. The correct phrase is "I couldn't care less." Those who say "I could care less," imply that they care to some degree while those who use the phrase correctly intend to convey that they do not care at all.

And don't get me started on "literally."

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:15 | 6245010 Dathedr
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That is why you are a Westerner, and Turks are not, liberal trash!

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:22 | 6245068 MsCreant
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I voted your remark down not because of your support for gays, but because of your support for taxes. Now that is perverted! 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 14:13 | 6245347 Billy the Poet
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Involuntary deviant economic intercourse.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:45 | 6244461 JessieSharpton
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Smart people need to squash this pink communist horde.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:45 | 6244809 Incubus
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i think cucumbers and bananas might be more effective than squashes.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:23 | 6245077 MsCreant
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Zucchini?

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 14:37 | 6245477 Pure Evil
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Gerbils and fists make better lovers.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:31 | 6245131 nevertheless
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why is it smart to make everyone your enemy? why is it wrong for gay people to want the same rights you enjoy? Now some may take it too far, but as far as I know that is really not an issue, for now, gays can now enjoy the same rights as you, no more.

straight white men are not under attack, AMERICA IS, all of us, and you ilk plays right into it.

The powers that be will keep dividing us into ever smaller groups, incapable of standing together against the power of the globalists.

And I certainly hope you don't consider yourself a "smart person", not from the looks of your ignorant post.

 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 14:25 | 6245414 Billy the Poet
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why is it wrong for gay people to want the same rights you enjoy?

 

Funny thing is that while gays want the government to validate their relationships I'd be tickled pink (!) if government would stay the hell out of mine. 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 15:45 | 6245811 logicalman
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I always think what a bullshit, government/church control measure marriage is.

Why the hell would anyone fight to get such a right in the first place?

Equal rights means equal rights, whatever your inclination, that's another thing altogether.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:46 | 6244468 chunga
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Turkey leaving NATO would be a pretty significant blow to the west.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:49 | 6244489 Dollarmedes
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Yeah, all the ISIS sympathizers would be devastated.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:01 | 6244555 chunga
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Some people believe ISIS is a boogeyman supported or even created by the west as an excuse for military forays wherever it sees it.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:08 | 6244589 StrikerMax
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Some people Believe ????

You're kidding right?

What other so called Terrorist Group had Full blonw Assault vehicles, Anti aircraft Missiles, Fighter Jets  ... you name.

ISIS is a rebranding of the former Al-Qaeda a Group Trained, payed and directed by the Western banking cartel.

Funny the deadly enemy of the so called Musslins Israel is never hit ???

Amazing isn't it ?

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:21 | 6244661 chunga
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I'm one of those people. Turkey has a large and modern army that isn't likely to "run away" from ISIS like Iraq, nor are they known to kow-tow to the Nudelman crowd. Them leaving NATO should not come as a huge surprise. That's why I think Turkey is a big wildcard. The Greeks are up against the wall so they could turn to the Russians and the pipeline that also includes Turkey.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:43 | 6245198 nevertheless
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Absolutely correct, but I will also tell you, that the same people in America who support ISIS, and most likely did 9/11, are the same people who use race, gender and sexual preference to divide this nation. We are constantly being manipulated, they play both sides of the issue, they reenforce the stereotypes in Hollywood, then criticize the society for buying into those stereotypes.

Whenever a person or a group, like the MSM, speaks of a group as having ONE VOICE, you are being manipulated. Americans NEED to learn about manipulation and control, because our ignorance is what gives them power. It is wonderful to see people understanding the ideas that America, and our zionists masters, are behind ISIS, and certainly the coup in Ukraine, and Egypt, and hopefully they understand 9/11 as well...but this is an attack from all sides, political, social, financial...We have to be smarter, and not self divide, the idea that gay people have an "agenda" beyond equal rights, is ludicrous, while those with real agenda never get discussed, is oh so telling.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 15:30 | 6245744 LibertarianMenace
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"Funny the deadly enemy of the so called Musslins Israel is never hit ???"

 

What's not really amazing is that no one dares to ask this very same question in ALL of the right/left prog media. It seems it's only the "bigots" doing the heavy lifting - seeking the truth.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:23 | 6244659 Cruel Aid
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some people? It's not obvious to everyone?

You win iraq then completely remove all pressure and presence? If you could have bet on this, you would have leveraged up big time.

Go down the list, the whole region is in a vacuum.

99.999% chance it is by design. It being isis and ongoing deal.

Just waiting for another FF and ratchet up move.

Its financial hamstringing

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:26 | 6244693 El Vaquero
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Some people (me) have actually read the Defense Intelligence Agency document from 2012 that says that we knew that arming the Syrian rebels would probably create a group like ISIS, and that that would be beneficial to our geopolitical goals.  Oddly enough, we armed the rebels.  And no, we're not going to control ISIS like we thought we were. 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:32 | 6244720 Cruel Aid
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we'll fight back and try to control them when we feel like the fight is big enough.

Its a big idea.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:33 | 6244733 El Vaquero
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We'll fail. 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:51 | 6244842 Cruel Aid
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Read my lips, that's the plan

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 17:12 | 6246215 The Delicate Genius
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The "Oded Yinon" plan, apparently.

Although I'm not myself quite sure how reliable globalresearch.ca is

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:07 | 6244958 chunga
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On a lighter note EV, my wife* and I just tried our first ripe tomatoes of the year. They're awesome.

* 100 percent female

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:15 | 6245011 TheMeatTrapper
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My Cherokee Purple's are coming in faster than I can eat them - but I'm trying. Feels great doesn't it? I'm also growing Red Ripper cowpeas for the first time. They are thriving on the heat and humidity down here. 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:48 | 6245224 El Vaquero
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The squashbugs are hitting my summer squash.  I tried planting them in with the greenbeans to see if it would confuse them.  Nope.  So it's another summer battle with the stinky little fuckers.  And this is the worst year for weeds that I've ever had.  Early rains in a desert are like that, I guess.  Have I told you how much I fucking hate elm trees and pigweed? 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 14:21 | 6245399 WillyGroper
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Lemme know if you find a solution for sb's other than placing them between 2 rocks.  Oh, and johnson grass too.

I've found a solution to the chemtrails that's unfricken believable!

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 14:57 | 6245589 El Vaquero
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Squashbugs have the basic strategy of searching out the eggs and killing them.  Then you have two viable strategies for the nymphs and adults:  1) Insecticidal soap works.  You can try dishsoap, but it will burn the leaves if you get it strong, so an actual insectacidal soap is best.  2) A wet-dry vacuum.  Yes, I have vacuumed my squash.  It's funny watching the little fuckers scurry away only to get sucked up. 

 

Also, if you get them wet, they'll move to a dry area, often the tops of the leaves.  They don't like being wet. 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 15:12 | 6245664 WillyGroper
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I thought of slathering some HFCS on a piece of cardboard & using a leaf blower but that fucking johnson grass has turned into Godzirra so it's moot.

IIRC you're in NM so I know you get a good dose. 

I just built one of these & I'm tickled shitless.

I have a target over my house today & it works!

1st link Austria...interesting visitor amidst the spew. Next 2, how to build it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjHI__KNm3I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqw7z2JJ-w4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M92WLMq8ll0

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:18 | 6245034 El Vaquero
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LOL.

 

I like to direct sow my tomato seeds, so I'm a bit behind you on that front.  I wait until the weeds are poppoing up where I'm going to plant them then sow the seeds.  I have to wait longer, but, assuming no disease hits the plants, they get monstrous if you let them.  I also have one that had its leaves totally eaten by something, and now it is coming back.  I thought for sure it was a goner. 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:45 | 6244806 bluskyes
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meh, Turks have revealed themselves to be traiterous throughout history. Kind of like Italians. Ask any old German WWII vet

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:48 | 6244480 Dollarmedes
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I love the people at the cafe: just sitting there, watching riot police turn the water cannons on the gheys while having their espresso.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:36 | 6244748 Kirk2NCC1701
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Italians have an Espresso.  Turks have Turkish Kava.

Consumed by more people than Espressos. 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:48 | 6244484 Ginsengbull
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Swirlie!!!

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:49 | 6244487 nmewn
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President Redline where are you!?

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 14:39 | 6245490 Pure Evil
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Currently he's slammin that Red Line to Reggie out on the back nine.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:50 | 6244494 samjam7
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Well in many ways not surprising to see something like this coming out of Turkey. After the Gezi Park protest you could easily see what the Turkish government thinks of voicing your opinion and freedom of expression...

But let's continue to support ISIS in the meantime,...

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:07 | 6244582 Praeda2
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"voicing your opinion"

About what? Dummies like you can never say. You just speak in blanket statements. One generalization after another. You know it's because you're an automaton right? hahah.

"and freedom of expression"

OH, so that's what wearing assless chaps in the middle of the day in public is.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:30 | 6244712 samjam7
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What place did you live in during the last decades or so? Coming out of cave and enjoying the sunlight?

First you make incomprehensible remarks and then you realize that our society has become individualistic, everbody trying to make a statement in the way they dress or color their hair.

I don't like seeing assless chaps either but I suspect both of us would be fine seeing topless girls in the middle of the day in public so what's the difference really? It's naked skin just that you like to see one more than the other and you want for society to think the same, which is understandable but you can't force your opinion on everybody.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 14:41 | 6245502 Pure Evil
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Uhmm......have you met the Homosexulal Lobby and their agenda?

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:52 | 6244503 Ms No
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Go be gay somewhere else! JK  It not really funny when one considers where this is all headed.  Turkey must be using the same play book as the US which is not surprising considering they are one of the vassals. 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:52 | 6244505 Watts_D_Matter
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I am moving to Turkey!

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:06 | 6244581 cossack55
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Russia would be a better choice, except of course for the NATO First Strike.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 17:15 | 6246171 Dathedr
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Western liberals are not welcomed in Russia. They are Western plague, and Westerners should deal with them. And I doubt you know what you are talking about. First strike capability is only good if you can take all nuclear capability of an adversary, which Murica cannot. Only one 5-7 megaton nuclkear warhead is enough to end all Murica on the other hand, so maybe you should think long and hard about who actually has a first strike upper hand.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:35 | 6244747 djsmps
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Please do

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:53 | 6244513 Dollarmedes
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The enemy of my enemy is my enemy's enemy.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:54 | 6244517 thunderchief
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Never understood why people are so uncomfortable or care about the gay community.

The only time I felt this way was when I accidently stumbled into a gay bar, coffee shop,  or one tried to pick me up.

A fag friend of mine once told me any gay could tell within minutes if you were straight or had a chance of picking you up.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:59 | 6244543 JessieSharpton
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"The only time I felt this way was when I accidently stumbled into a gay bar,"

http://youtu.be/tdbt-sx5MDc

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:04 | 6244567 Praeda2
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Because of YOUR experience... you can't understand why someone would feel differently from you... Fucking really man? You don't feel at all embarrassed to write such dribble? Oh then the obligatory (these days) anecdotal story haha. muh feelins and shaaaaaaring. What a good little sheep. You've swallowed the Kool-Aid brewed in DC and Hollywood beautifully. THINK, before you speak.

Well at least you have an insane 'friend' who imagines he can speak for everyone else who engages in one of the same activities he does.

You don't understand why guys sucking dicks, fucking guys each other in the ass makes someone who doesn't do such things uncomfortable? Ok, well let's say your buddy there reached into his pants and scratched his ass. He then took his hand out and licked his fingers. You would find that disgusting? Disgusting behaviour(s) don't make you uncomfortable? Because if you're so lacking in emotion, you're mentally ill in some way, probably a sociopath.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:18 | 6244640 djsmps
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Ok, well let's say your buddy there reached into his pants and scratched his ass. He then took his hand out and licked his fingers.

I wouldn't find that disgusting. Do you?

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:26 | 6244692 umdesch4
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It's a far reach from the behaviour you're talking about, and waving a rainbow flag around in public. I don't care one way or the other what people do, privately. If you sit around thinking a lot about what gays do, and feeling disgusted every time you encounter one, you have issues. Personally, when I think about what lesbians do, I'm far from disgusted. LOL!

All these people are evolutionary dead ends anyway, and letting them be just might be a good thing for the gene pool. Previously, there were a lot of closet gays who forced themselves to appear straight, and even had kids for the sake of appearances.

In the meantime, on the list of things that disgust me, bankers are orders of magnitude higher than gays. Why are we even discussing this on ZH anyway?

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:34 | 6244741 aka_ces
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Thank God heterosexual couples don't do anything like that !

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:52 | 6245237 MsCreant
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Sex is sex.

If I put a paper bag over your head and had a woman suck your dick, then a man, I doubt you would be able to tell the difference. Both would feel wonderful. Sensation is sensation.

The man might even perform better because he has a dick and knows what feels good. Also he may have a stronger mouth that can suck harder and deeper, might gobble your stuff up in ways you never dreamed possible.

Women like having their clean asses licked every now and again. Makes her feel like he wants her badly and he will eat her alive, no holds barred. Ecstasy. Why wouldn't a man enjoy that?

And then there is the issue of the prostate gland. All men have them, they feel wonderful to men when they are stimulated. That is all men are doing for each other when they do that. But our culture stigmatizes the behavior, even though the pleasure is a biological reality.

Go ahead, put a condom on your finger and stick it up your ass and feel for a small almond shaped area if you press upwards. Stoke it gently. You can have a powerful organsm if you work it. Some can reach an orgasm this way without having an erection. I'd tell you more, but I bet this is too much as it is. 

Sex is sex. Feel good is feel good. What gender is stroking, sucking, and fucking what, should not be in our politics at all.

 

 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 14:09 | 6245330 WTFUD
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@ MsCreant

Unless your balls were slapping against a bristly chin.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 14:43 | 6245520 Pure Evil
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I guess the real question at this time is how many Lesbian lovers MsCreant has.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 15:22 | 6245712 MsCreant
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If I did have any I'd be okay with it, I'll do what I want. Don't happen to. I think you like the idea of playing sandwhich, which I do not think is bad at all! A demon can dream...and his eyes had all the seeming of a demon that is dreaming...

I stand by it, the government needs to stay out of our bedrooms. Who you and I suck or fuck is no one else's concern. You don't have to approve of who I suck or fuck but it is not your place to legislate FOR OR AGAINST it.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 19:14 | 6246766 God
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Yea, someone called her out as 'newmn' about a year ago.

I guess newmn likes anal? Who would have thunk or sumptin....

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 19:18 | 6246777 MsCreant
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Hey God,

Wanna give it a go?

Voulez-vous coucher avec moi ce soir?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQa7SvVCdZk&list=RDRQa7SvVCdZk#t=0

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 14:49 | 6245551 DutchBoy2015
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Wow, someone who has been around the block and understands life.   Difficult to find here.

Gays are not all flaming homos.  Many look quite conservative and are CEO's or companies.  NFL players,. NBA players.

People here like to steretype gays.   

I personally think the gay pride crap is stupid.   And I know gays that feel the same way,

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 15:14 | 6245669 MsCreant
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Gay pride is developmental. Many gays get "stuck" there. If you were ashamed, afraid, had to hide, and then finally found a way to accept yourself, can you imagine the relief? Once they are past acceptance, the next stage in gay identity development is pride. They get into gay everything, softball, church, clubs, politics, all things gay. Can you imagine the relief to be out, with others, and not afraid and ashamed? 

The final stage they talk about is Integration, where they are gay, but that is just one thing about them. They are also their occupation, a sister or brother, a son or daughter, and much, much, more. Once the gay identity has been integrated into the whole, it is time to move on. Gay is no longer so salient for them.

I see it as a stage that most go through to get to integration, but some get stuck there. 

Mon, 06/29/2015 - 02:28 | 6248021 aka_ces
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the unfortunate thing is that the historic and accelerating break-down of these unjust barrriers is in part occuring because it keeps the populace ever-focused on anything but the oligarchys's endeavors to make for everyone a future in chains.  

Barney Frank is known for his sexual orientation, not for his role in servicing financial oligarchies.  The liberation of gays needs to fully complete as soon as possible, so that the focus on leaders can move from sexual and other personal orientations to financial orientation.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 14:05 | 6245298 El Vaquero
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So long as they don't fuck each other in the ass in front of me, I don't care.  So long as they respect my not being gay, I don't care.  What they do in their own privacy can be disgusting like fuck, and I don't care.  If they're in their own bedroom and they want to eat the peanuts out of each other's shit, I don't care. 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:54 | 6244519 surf0766
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Will Dear Leader praise his closest friend?

 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 14:45 | 6245524 Pure Evil
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Will Dear Leader come out of the closet and out his Wookie?

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:54 | 6244522 dogismycopilot
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ZH Public Service Announcement -- if you are ever in a crowd where they use water cannons, cover your eyes. Water canons can blast your eye out if they hit you in the face. Google it. 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:55 | 6244523 Praeda2
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Water cannon? Should be live ammunition.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:45 | 6244781 Kirk2NCC1701
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What caliber?  'Chocolate' dipped or tipped?

FMJ (Full-Mouth Jacket)?  ;-)

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:57 | 6244535 umdesch4
Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:59 | 6244540 The Delicate Genius
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lotta gay bashers here, eh? Doesn't seem to comport with the whole libertarian thing, but I guess ZH has attracted some Fox News and Drudge types as its gained popularity.

What were they doing that required a water cannon - and what sort of dipshit would celebrate that kind of force used again people whose worst crime is bad fashion sense?

In short: fuck Nazi police, wherever they be found.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:01 | 6244557 JessieSharpton
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"lotta gay bashers here, eh? "

Is your internet caused PTSD triggered by this onslaught of hatred against hipster commie pink hate?

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:19 | 6244645 gladius17
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As funny as this incident is, and as fun as it is to see the fags getting some payback after recent events especially, in truth you are right. We really shouldn't be cheering on such things. I'm no fan of faggotry, but this is just as bad as spraying fire hydrants at black folks on the streets of Birmingham IMO.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:22 | 6244662 JessieSharpton
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Did you have a point?

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:23 | 6244673 gladius17
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Is that a question?

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:08 | 6244968 jwoop66
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tou-fucking-che!! 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:48 | 6244822 rejected
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Okay with white folk, Ukraine for example, Greece, France....... 

Stand by for stand by Whitey.....

 

http://rt.com/usa/270142-white-americans-terror-threat/

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:24 | 6244681 Ms No
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I don't believe in victimless crime.  I think the real wedge between women and men is happening in other ways.  Ever wonder why the court systems completely flip flopped (I hate that term but it works), one day women were property and then the system pivots extreme in the other direction? 

It may have started sooner but I began to notice it commonly in the late 90s.  Men who were great parents losing their kids to drug addicted psychopathic women.  Men going to divorce court with proof beyond a shadow of a doubt that they were systematically targeted by a female predator/cheat that married them exclusively to take their money.  The man lives in shack, woman moves in with new boyfriend and does this two more times.   

Any imbalance such as this creates a great deal of useful anger and of course begins to create an enormous wedge.  There are no accidents with these bastards. 

 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:33 | 6244734 nmewn
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I think its more of a rant against the militant gheys than anything else. I don't have to condone it (nor should I be "forced" to condone it) and why would gheys even seek my permission or judgement of their lifestyle? That would be antithetical to them proclaiming their freedom, which they already have and have had for centuries.

(Over-the-top-exaggeration-time)...they just shouldn't walk around with a dildo hanging out of their ass (the militants) and expect me to appreciate the fine nuance & shock quality production of the exhibitionist presenter...because there really isn't any.

Its just some clown with a dildo hanging out of his ass, not garnering much respect from me.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:43 | 6244795 rejected
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I use your spelling of ghey now. Hopefully the word gay can returned to the language and used in a good way again.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 14:49 | 6245541 Pure Evil
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Just use the original term, "Queer".

Don't use "fag" which would only confuse our Limey friends.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:00 | 6244551 itstippy
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"Caught on tape!"

Well duh, that was the objective.  When you want press coverage for your cause you organize a rally, make some signs, and march around obstructing traffic.  The cops and press show up.  The cops clear the streets, the press "catches it on tape," and presto!  National exposure!

Both the news outlets and law enforcement were informed of the time and place of the event well in advance, I'm sure.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:04 | 6244565 two hoots
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As another NATO member, Greece, continues to rot as NATO, who's  essential purpose is to safeguard the freedom and security of its members through political and military means, watches from a distance as Russia courts a potential security harbinger within its midst.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:23 | 6244672 The Delicate Genius
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"...essential purpose is to safeguard the freedom and security of its members through political and military means..."

It's clear you've lost the plot, the question is is this ignorance by choice, or ignorance by dumb?

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:06 | 6244579 kowalli
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good news

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:06 | 6244580 boeing747
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Next we have LGBT president.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:13 | 6244618 B2u
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Don't we have Obama already?

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:50 | 6244830 Kirk2NCC1701
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You must mean a GayBLT.

Seems to sound better.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 14:52 | 6245568 Pure Evil
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I can just see it now. A jew, a priest, and a muslim all walk into a Jersey Diner. The jew orders a gayBLT, while the priest and the muslim say make mine a paedophile.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:08 | 6244586 ThrowAwayYourTV
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How can anyone have any pride in taking up the butt?

 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:11 | 6244607 JessieSharpton
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Ask anyone who voted for bush and obama.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:34 | 6244736 rejected
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Nailed it!           LOL. 

If I may,,, maybe it should be "Ask anyone who voted"

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:07 | 6244960 DutchBoy2015
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If you are an Americunt who plays the 'libs vs cons'' game you are getting cornholed all the time and seem to love it.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:27 | 6245101 TheMeatTrapper
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If you are a Dutchie Boy cunt who isn't allowed to play with anything sharp, then you are getting cornholed all the time and seem to love it. 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:13 | 6244612 A Lunatic
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FMF Turkey sandwich anyone......?

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:14 | 6244621 thunderchief
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A bit ironic all the gay bashers on this site.

Everyone knows how annoying a flamer can be,

But never met one that was competing for another man's women.

Must be a a lot of closet homos here.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:19 | 6244644 thatthingcanfly
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Some fatally flawed logic there chief.

Do you seriously believe that the 99% of the world's population who are disgusted by the mere suggestion of homosexual acts are faking it when they express that disgust? That we are ALL repressing our own secret desires?

What a bunch of Freudian bullshit.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:19 | 6245039 thunderchief
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I suppose you only in engage in straight missionary sex.. 

Anyone that says hetero anything is some how normal is a monk, a pervert, freak, pedifile, of some type of closet deviant.  

Once again, why would I even care what you or anyone does in the bathroom or bed or vise versa.

What anyone does with their partner behind closed doors is their own business.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:29 | 6245119 TheMeatTrapper
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It has nothing to do with what goes on in the bedroom, it has everything to do with the usurpation of the Constitution; and the central government forcing it's dictates on all the States.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:59 | 6245277 thunderchief
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Gays getting married will create the same can of worms it creates for the modern day hetero nuclear family.

Let's see....

Imfadelities,  50-70% divorce rates, depending how far out you stretch the string, I also doubt the other 30% can be called a success, 

I could go on and on, but either everyone is just protecting gays from a disastrous institution, starting with overpriced weddings and ending in divorce, or they really aren't the freedom loving, stay out of my way government patriots they claim.

Let those Homos get married, let the games begin!

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:27 | 6244697 IndianaJohn
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They might be in your closet. But not in mine.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:15 | 6244624 Niall Of The Ni...
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Another advantage of West Turkey returning to the Middle East. Freed from EU interference, the colonels can be trusted to let the fags know what decent people think of them.

You know, like every civilized country did not long ago.

Nice try, though, MSM, smearing Erdogan's Turkey for being too friendly with Putin.

 

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