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With Knife Murders Spiking After Gun Ban, UK Urges "Save A Life - Surrender Your Knife"

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Just a week ago, we noted the hard-working US government was drawing up plans for "knife regulations." Well, in The UK it appears to have already begun...

As SHTFPlan.com's Mac Slavo warns, don't try to think this one through - the logica fail and sheer volume of absurdity might just make you sick if you do...

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For the UK – whose laws and policies all-too-often influence those of the U.S. – gun control isn’t enough. Probably nothing will ever be enough.

Now a call to surrender knives, ongoing for years, is in full swing. Via Citizen Action:

The right to bear arms might be under attack here in America–but in the United Kingdom, police are trying to do something even more ridiculous: they’re attempting to ban knives.

 

The British police have recently joined forces with liberal grassroots activists in the UK, launching the “Save a Life–Surrender Your Knife” program. Knife crime has been climbing recently in major UK cities like London.

 

The program involved several weeks of “amnesty” for “pointed knives.” Civilians can turn in these apparently dangerous weapons at their local police station in exchange for “amnesty,” apparently, even though knives (rounded or pointed) aren’t illegal in the United Kingdom.

There is, however, a ban on people under 18 buying knives – going so far on the absurdity scale as to ban underage purchases of plastic knives! No joke. One woman in her 20s was even barred from buying spoons without proper ID:

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Since knives are used for food preparation and many other basic and essential activities, and virtually any crude material can be transformed into a knife, even police admit the “amnesty” for turning in knives will do nothing to stop knife crimes (but it will do a great deal for instilling a mentality of helplessness while heaping on more and more rules).

Because the problem with knife crime, however, is that it’s pretty much impossible to stop just by banning knives itself. Virtually every person in the United Kingdom owns a knife–and, as long as food needs cutting, that’s not going to change.

[…] the problem is that “many assaults are committed impulsively, prompted by alcohol and drugs, and a kitchen knife often makes an all too available weapon.”

Despite the attempt to paint knife crimes as an impulsive issue of short tempers and petty disputes, carjackings, robberies and premeditated murders are frequently committed with knives in the UK… and the system is trying to make sure victims remain defenseless.

Here is what the murder rate looks like since the UK’s gun ban – with knife murders spiking drastically:

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Police departments in the UK, urging people to give up their blades, including those from the kitchen, are literally advising people to NOT to become a victim by NOT defending themselves:

Don’t be a victim

If you feel you are in immediate danger from knife crime there are a number of steps you can take to protect yourself:
• Move away from the situation towards a public place (shop, house, restaurant etc.) as quickly as possible.
• Make as much noise as you can.
• Instead of carrying a knife, carry a personal alarm.
• Don’t fight back.

The same “logic” has of course been used in American debates on guns, with Homeland Security training even advising would-be victims at schools and offices to hide or throw cans of soup at active shooters.

It is a good enough assertion at this point to suppose that all the sharpest knives in the drawer have already been turned in or confiscated… as clearly no one in a position of authority has common sense or wits about them at all.

 

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Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:13 | 6244299 Pool Shark
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You can have my Spork when you pry it from my cold, dead, hand...

 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:22 | 6244334 AlaricBalth
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Buying and carrying knives: the law in the UK.

The laws about buying and carrying a knife depend on the type of knife, your age and your circumstances.

Basic laws on knives
It is illegal to:
sell a knife of any kind to anyone under 18 years old (16 to 18 year olds in Scotland can buy cutlery and kitchen knives)

carry a knife in public without good reason - unless it’s a knife with a folding blade 3 inches long (7.62 cm) or less, eg a Swiss Army knife

carry, buy or sell any type of banned knife

use any knife in a threatening way (even a legal knife, such as a Swiss Army knife)

Lock knives (knives with blades that can be locked when unfolded) are not folding knives, and are illegal to carry in public without good reason.

The maximum penalty for an adult carrying a knife is 4 years in prison and a fine of £5,000.

https://www.gov.uk/buying-carrying-knives

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:23 | 6244353 remain calm
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..."But, How will i cut my meat"  Lorena Bobbitt

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:24 | 6244357 Publicus
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Without free will, there can be no crime. Surrender your free will now.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:26 | 6244367 AlaricBalth
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Good reasons for carrying a knife according to gov.uk:

Examples of good reasons to carry a knife in public can include:

taking knives you use at work to and from work
taking knives to a gallery or museum to be exhibited
the knife is going to be used for theatre, film, television, historical reenactment or religious purposes, eg the kirpan some Sikhs carry

A court will decide if you’ve got a good reason to carry a knife if you’re charged with carrying it illegally.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:27 | 6244370 suteibu
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Give everyone a gun and the knife problem will disappear overnight.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:30 | 6244384 swmnguy
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And vice versa.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:34 | 6244401 suteibu
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People are going to commit violence against others regardless.  In Japan, a man is in a coma today after an acquaintance stabbed him in the eye with an umbrella during a fight.  Ban umbrellas?

 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:39 | 6244431 AlaricBalth
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Next on the list, a ban on nail guns.
If so, the PTB will need to find a new method of suiciding a perceived threat to their way of life.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:40 | 6244440 suteibu
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If you ban nail guns, only criminals (the PTB) will have them.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:48 | 6244478 El Vaquero
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Don’t fight back.

Lets see here, I think that there are a couple of words that are are appropriate.  What are they?  "Fuck" and You!"

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:25 | 6244683 Son of Loki
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Knives, guns, Confederate flags, inanimate objects, etc are not the problem.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:17 | 6245031 DutchR
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Carry an axe instead...

 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:54 | 6245250 TeamDepends
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Next: Don't resist, surrender your fists.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 16:00 | 6245881 sushi
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Follow Homeland Security's advice and in two years there will be legislation demanding you turn in your cans of soup. Canned soup is a four pound, extremely lethal projectile especially given a lack of knives with which to remove the contents prior to throwing in self defense.

"Do you feel lucky punk?" 

Said while holding a full can of Campbells Cream of Mush pointed in the direction of said punk.

 

Mon, 06/29/2015 - 02:16 | 6248027 monad
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My 70# torque wrench weighs 3.8#. I'm good.

But my car battery weighs 12#...

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 16:01 | 6245882 Real Estate Geek
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And culminating in: "Just lay back and enjoy it."

Mon, 06/29/2015 - 02:21 | 6248036 turnoffthewater
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Simple take your meat to the govt and they will cut it for you....oh wait, they all ready are

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:22 | 6245046 espirit
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Don't bring a knife to a gun fight in either Florida or Texas.

(or harsh words either)

Edit: Must be the heat that makes everyone intolerant of stupidity.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 16:01 | 6245883 NihilistZero
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I know it's linked in the article, but everyone must read this UK Police page on Knife Crime:

http://lancashire.police.uk/help-advice/safer-communities/knife-crime.aspx

It is unintentionally hilarious, far beyond the ready made meme of "Don't Fight Back".  The UK Pols/Authorities REALLY make Brits look bad.  As a resident of CA I can surely relate...

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:52 | 6244502 Winston Churchill
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The biggest in school massacre was committed in Germany with a home made flammenwurfer.

Tank spayers must be banned.

Those laws look no different from when i grew up there, not sure what the big deal is.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:36 | 6244752 El Vaquero
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I'm not sure what the biggest school massacre in world history was, but in US history, it was in Bath, MI.  Only one gunshot was fired.  Want to stop things like that with law?  Ban chemistry.  LOL. 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 14:12 | 6245339 janus
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didn't know about the bath massacare...interesting.

yeah, i'm with you, chemistry and chemicals and all molecules of any arrangement...hell, atoms as well -- ban it all.  did you know that if one were able to split the smallest and simplest of atoms like, for example, hydrogen, it could release enough energy to...i don't want to tell you what would happen, might put bad ideas in the kids' heads -- and if word gets out about atomic energy, every kid in america will start collecting illicit substances like hydrogen.  

p.s. my buddy and i once successfully mixed a highly potent fulminate of mercury in our high school lab....that sure was a bad-ass molecular arrangement.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOhONc5-oSs

{dear kids in great britian, do bin the knives, turn in your guns and then get your butts in the lab.  go make you some fulminated mercury and have the time of your lives.  you shan't regret it, i promise.}

janus

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 16:19 | 6245943 logicalman
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Nitrogen tri-iodide was a favourite when I was at school!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KlAf936E90

did fulminate of mercury once and gun cotton a few times.

rockets from potassium chlorate and sugar was another good one.

 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 18:15 | 6246521 janus
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explosives were easy for me...rocketry?...another matter altogether.

the precision required to get proper lift, trajectory and a predictable arc require the kinds of infinite discipline rarely found anywhere but north by north-west of the rhine.  janus hasn't enough nordic in him to pull it off.  

no, really, high-composite materials, fine-grade files, calipers...you name it....we did it all with only limited success.  rocketry is a high-art, and is far more than a sum-of-its-parts science.  mr. musk would do well in soliciting elegant minds (no matter how obstreperous or 'anti-semetic' they may be) if he wants to pull-off something grand.  the best of men know how awesome they are; those who fancy themselves 'masters' will soon understand their relationship to talent.

yeah, hebrews, best-o-luck with your cad and whatnot...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzlMeTxVdH8&list=PL9600AE5345E7C6EB

in the end, there is only love & rockets -- the world seems to prefer the latter.  gotta give the people what they want.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ff5wxR081YQ

i feel i'm on the cross again lately/

but that has nothing to do with you,

janus

 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 21:54 | 6247349 logicalman
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With the rockets, there was little precision.

Doing it and having fun were the why.

Up was the only aiming involved, and being far enough away when they lit up were about the only considerations.

Mon, 06/29/2015 - 04:02 | 6247999 janus
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Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:33 | 6244732 ebworthen
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Ban people! 

Mon, 06/29/2015 - 02:25 | 6248040 turnoffthewater
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No worries, the tptb have been working on that for a long time

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:38 | 6244430 chumbawamba
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"Don't fight back."  Just stand there and be stabbed to death until a constable can arrive at the scene and politely ask everyone to behave.

I am Chumbawamba.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:45 | 6244465 A Lunatic
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Maybe Brandon Smith can develop a clothing line made of QuickClot........

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:46 | 6244469 new game
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i feel no pain said the brave weaponless progressive...

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:12 | 6244603 DanDaley
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Yet for the muzzies, it's a blessing and a curse: decapitation with a plastic knife will take a whole lot longer (which is bad), but then again it will take a whole lot longer (which is good). It's all a matter of perspective.

 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:38 | 6245181 Tom Servo
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muzzies aren't impacted, they can carry their ceremonial head removing knife with no restrictions...

 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:17 | 6245029 e_goldstein
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  Just stand there and be stabbed to death until a constable can arrive at the scene and politely ask everyone to  behave.

 Better hope said constable speaks Arabic.

 


Sun, 06/28/2015 - 16:37 | 6246026 WOAR
Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:16 | 6245017 funthea
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I logged in just so I could down vote you, you fucking mook!

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:43 | 6245201 Herd Redirectio...
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"Call 911.  When you need help in seconds, our officers, whose primary duty is protecting their own safety, are mere minutes away."

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:11 | 6244983 logicalman
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Letting a court decide is truly scary.

If a guy in fancy suit carries a knife he'll likely get off.

If a guy in torn jeans with tatoos carries a knife he'll likely be convicted.

The 'legal' system is no longer a system of law.

 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:25 | 6245091 espirit
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Cover your six.

Long range sniper rifles & experienced hands work well together.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:45 | 6245208 Herd Redirectio...
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Two tier legal system.  Depending on how many lawyers you can afford.

0-1 lawyer:  Guilty.

2+ lawyers:  Not Guilty, your Honor

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:24 | 6244354 Publicus
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Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:25 | 6244361 NoDecaf
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Don't go caveman. Surrender your tree banches now.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:48 | 6244483 new game
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i draw the line at rocks. permit to carry a rock(s) outside your cave coming to a village near you.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:19 | 6245038 moneybots
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"Buying and carrying knives: the law in the UK."

 

The chart shows the law isn't working very well. 

Knives replaced guns and something else will replace knives as the weapon of choice.  Eventually, they would have to ban everything.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:29 | 6245118 css1971
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The muggers don't carry knives. They carry screwdrivers.

 

HTH.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 16:23 | 6245957 junction
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Without knives, we would never have such reality TV programs as "Wives With Knives."  Fingers can also be deadly weapons, should we require everyone to be handcuffed when they are in public?  Let me ask Michelle, when she has a moment after her ten course state dinner.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 16:42 | 6246057 WOAR
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When you no longer have the right to bear arms, they will take your arms.

As in, from the elbow down.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:16 | 6244303 Brazen Heist
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If you feel you are in immediate danger from knife crime there are a number of steps you can take to protect yourself:
• Move away from the situation towards a public place (shop, house, restaurant etc.) as quickly as possible.
• Make as much noise as you can.
• Instead of carrying a knife, carry a personal alarm.
Don’t fight back.

 

 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:25 | 6244360 suteibu
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Shelter in place....forever.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:36 | 6244416 WeR138
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1: Don't fight back

2: Move towards a public place

3: Where everyone else will not be fighting back.

4: ?

5: SAFETY!

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 15:51 | 6245843 Icelandicsaga.....
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I am assuming you are being sarcastic .. or you like the UK have gone full retard... .move away from the situation . hope you can run like a deer and or have body armor when some thug has a knife in your ribs in the parking lot at 12AM on a Saturday night. Make as much noise as you can . yes a loud scream when he hits the aorta a minute before you expire... a personal alarm.. at the bottom of some woman's purse .. don't fight back . heaven's no . just go down with a thud . .ensuring one more thug living on the taxpayer dime. if he is caught in some Wackenhut prisons complex... .. the point is Brazen .. those suggestions by and large are not going to save anyone .. or very few .. I do know never get into a vehicle even if you face being shot or stabbed.. more likely to get help if you do not get into a car .. attacks on teh public stop or are fewer . .when the crooks know they can be shot or maimed by an armed citizen or someone who can go Jason Statham on them.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:15 | 6244305 Headbanger
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Better hurry up and ban hammers, saws, screw drivers, rocks, broken bottles, tire irons, golf clubs, wrenches, frying pans...

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:18 | 6244329 Brazen Heist
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Lets ban freedom of speech because a few people are sayin things that offend some other people. Oh wait....they call it PC and its censorship.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:18 | 6244639 DollarMenu
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Cut to the chase - ban humans.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:26 | 6245097 css1971
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Seriously. One of the best hand weapons ever created was the pointy stick. AKA the spear. It survived from pre-history through several thousand years to the firearms which made all hand weapons obsolete.

So.. Them sticks... Can't have them lying around.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 20:32 | 6246806 SofaPapa
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...table legs, chair legs, laptops, lamps, baseball bats, weed wackers, slingshots, surgical tubing (makes GREAT slingshots!), decorative corner molding, hockey sticks...

This is a fun game!  There is nothing in the world we can't ban if we put our minds to the problem.  And then we'll be safe. :))

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:17 | 6244311 Racer
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They will ban forks next, and we will be forced to eat with our fingers next... oh you can stab someone in the eye with a finger... better chop off fingers... oh then you will have stumps and you could hit someone hard in the face with a stump... oh better chop off your arms....

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:28 | 6244701 Son of Loki
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How about a fist amputation for the knockout punchers?

 

Sounds reasonable. Very low recidivism rate.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:18 | 6244313 Shad_ow
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"Fools rush in"

 

 

Before you know it some idiot here will suggest a gun ban.  Oh....

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:17 | 6244314 One And Only
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Next ban...

Malicious staring and the game "rocks, paper, scissors"

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:32 | 6244396 Arnold
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You are more than microagressive aren't you?

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:56 | 6244533 One And Only
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I will fucking molest you

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:28 | 6245107 espirit
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I'll hold him down for you.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:17 | 6244316 Mae Kadoodie
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Sharp sticks for sale.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:27 | 6244373 Pool Shark
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Next Ban? Dangerous Fruit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piWCBOsJr-w

 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:18 | 6244320 Commodore64
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Save a brother , sell your mother...

 

Unbelievable what we see around us these days....

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:18 | 6244323 new game
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22's in stock at fleetfarm. buckets of rem golden hp. nice 1400 for 66.99.

going fast - saw two other people w/buckets. grabbed a couple. few left when i circled back for quick assesment, ha alive and well stock the fuck up. 9's 22's 308's for fun, of course.....

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:18 | 6244324 Obama LaForge
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Knife murders aren't the problem, knife murders are the solution to the problem.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:18 | 6244328 cheech_wizard
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And people think my idea of crowd sourcing a nuclear weapon to be used against a tyrannical government is a "crazy" idea...

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:19 | 6244332 new game
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the atoms are coliding, ha...

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:19 | 6244335 Counterpunch
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Its not going to be guns, or knives, that will be needed to stop APCs rolling down main street with a crew of Xe jackals in Alphabet Agency gear.

You may have to give up gardening, or cleaning your kitchen, or restoring that old GTO before very long.

No trouble from me mind ye. I will be in northern vermont minding my own. Though I strongly advise any and all to call ahead before visiting.

I mean... it's just polite.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:08 | 6244969 logicalman
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Odd.

I had a thought today about plastic bottles while shopping....

No good for Molotovs!

 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:20 | 6244337 Bighorn_100b
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The box is to small for my blades.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:27 | 6244372 Commodore64
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Katana's?

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:31 | 6244390 Pool Shark
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How on earth are you gonna get a Klingon Bat'leth in there?

 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:49 | 6244492 Commodore64
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fold it 5 times?

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:20 | 6244338 nmewn
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Glass bottles are next, then sharp sticks & rocks.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:47 | 6244470 two hoots
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The Tweet is mightier than the pen which is mightier than a Sharpie but sharper than a highlighter.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:54 | 6244518 DetectiveStern
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Already happened. Most bars have switched to plastic pint pots and bottles..

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:05 | 6244573 nmewn
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I guess next they'll bolt the damned tables & chairs to the floor lest someone use them to bludgeon another to death.

Now, about those darts, ya know, you could put an eye out with one of those things or prick someone and the wound get infected! ;-)

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:37 | 6245175 css1971
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Tables are typically already bolted down. Chairs are usually cheap plastic things you couldn't bludgeon anyone with.

Mon, 06/29/2015 - 15:32 | 6250845 DetectiveStern
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Mainly bolted down to stop people stealing them though.

Mon, 06/29/2015 - 02:15 | 6248023 monad
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You sir, looked at me the wrong way. I claim damages under the current UN law against genocide. DIE! DIE! DIE!

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:20 | 6244340 Ms No
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If it's large scale government violence be sure to make A LOT of noise... that should work.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:21 | 6244346 Yttrium Gold Ni...
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Don’t be a victim
If you feel you are in immediate danger from knife crime there are a number of steps you can take to protect yourself:

1. Pull out your gun.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:22 | 6244347 HardlyZero
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Fiat finance will collapse.

Then fools will run rampant.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:22 | 6244348 A Lunatic
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How about 'save a life, stop fucking murdering each other'.   What's next, save a life, cut off your fucking hands.......?

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:29 | 6244383 nmewn
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Can't we just be allowed to bask in the warm afterglow of yet another government subsidized corporate fascist (Elon Musk) getting his karma fix before moving on to "folks" in black robes appointing themselves as "gods" and ruling by diktat from some fucking Star Chamber?

Oh yeah, they've already commenced to doing that.

Never mind.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:39 | 6244414 A Lunatic
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It's those Cutlers Guild SOB's with their stranglehold on Parliament that allows this kind of thing to happen.......

 

/s

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:24 | 6244356 Itch
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Nah, this is directed at kids, teenage gang members and the like. It's a gimmick, but not that far fetched when you think about it; if a kid has a knife on him and he's confronted, he'll do something stupid, without it, he'll just take a beating. Not likely he'll throw it in the bin, but the police need to seen to be doing something. 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:52 | 6244504 runningman18
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So then clearly it is the job of the government to collectively restrict everyone because of the potential actions of some kids?  This has NOTHING to do with teen gangs and EVERYTHING to do with perpetuating a cultural atmosphere of victimhood.  Notice they aren't telling people to pick up a fucking cricket bat and beat their teen gang knife assailant with it.  They are telling people NOT to fight back at all.  This is about the neutering of the British population and they have been extremely successful so far.   

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:47 | 6245217 Itch
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Well teeny-bopper violence on the streets is never a good thing, especially when there is so little at stake, like street respect or whatever. It's just a blue bin man, and nobody want's to lose their kid, hence it's the public usually pressuring the police to act (and of course the police act like they are completely clueless, because they largely are). I think you should calm down and get a fresh perspective, perhaps even stop thinking as a rule of thumb, or stick to things you can actually clarify rather than letting your own imagination fill in the blanks. 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 16:08 | 6245908 Icelandicsaga.....
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Feminization of the West .. the kindergarten teachers.. lets play nice are in charge. and have been for decades.. look HOW WELL THAT has turned out . not . Feminist Camille Paglia who actually has a brain wrote not long ago .. """"""What you’re seeing is how a civilization commits suicide,” says Camille Paglia. This self-described “notorious Amazon feminist” isn’t telling anyone to Lean In or asking Why Women Still Can’t Have It All. No, her indictment may be as surprising as it is wide-ranging: The military is out of fashion, Americans undervalue manual labor, schools neuter male students, opinion makers deny the biological differences between men and women, and sexiness is dead. And that’s just 20 minutes of our three-hour conversation…..

Ms. Paglia argues that the softening of modern American society begins as early as kindergarten. “Primary-school education is a crock, basically. It’s oppressive to anyone with physical energy, especially guys,” she says, pointing to the most obvious example: the way many schools have cut recess. “They’re making a toxic environment for boys. Primary education does everything in its power to turn boys into neuters.”'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:25 | 6244365 samsara
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What's the status on Slingshots and wrist rockets with ball bearings/marbles?

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:49 | 6244485 Pool Shark
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"You'll shoot your eye out."

 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:19 | 6245042 css1971
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Depends on the energy. Anything more than 10 Joules is illegal.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:28 | 6244375 new game
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cue southside chicago where it is illegal to own a gun. black on black(for the most part),  200 murders so far this year. a shooting(not alway fatal) every 3 1/2 hours. ok, those are the facts. is the media reporting that gun control NOT FUCKING WORKING? no, never is that discussed. the melting pot has boiled over in o's homie state. a fucking war zone where crossing the street to enimies block is an act of war. shoot/bango another homie down. just reporting the facts, plez don't shoot the messinger, ha...

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:52 | 6244509 Joebloinvestor
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The motherfuckers don't want it to work so they can push for a ban.

Tunisia blew the shit out of Barry's fucking LIES.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:13 | 6244997 ThrowAwayYourTV
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Same thing in Taxachusetts, very hard to own a gun. So they all walk around with Pitt Bulls that weigh just about as much as they do.

I run into them all the time in NH out on the hiking trails. 80lb girl with an 80lb Pitt Bull. Have had a couple charge at me because they didn't like the way I walked by. Luckily we are allowed to own and carry in NH. and I don't have to worry about walking around with a non insurable dog.

Anyway, where was I? Oh yeah, Taxachusetts. Someone told me there are more people shot there too, even though they don't allow guns.

I don't watch TV so I don't get that news but some how I believe them.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:34 | 6244377 Bighorn_100b
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Good thing chain saws and axes are not knives. What about swords, tomahawks? LOL!

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:38 | 6244417 Arnold
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My other blade is a machete, padrone.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:29 | 6244379 swmnguy
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What an obvious bullshit clickbait story.  Mac Slavo is good for a laugh from time to time, but that's about it.  The UK murder rate, guns, knives or what-have-you, is about 1/5 the murder rate in the US.

I'm sure the Limeys are absolutely at wits' end with all the drive-by knifings, mass-knifings in churches, knives going through walls and buildings killing kids, knives going off accidentally, body-armor-penetrating "Cop-Killer" knives, 30-bladed knives, etc.

Hey, we Americans love guns.  We feel a deep need to have them, even though all these guns empirically make things more dangerous for us.  I'm fine with that.  But let's not pretend otherwise.  America is awash in guns, and has a lot of gun violence, because we had chosen this.  We like it.  It's part of our culture.  We can make up all the bullshit excuses we want, indulge in paranoid revenge fantasies like we think we're in a B-movie or something; we can provide fodder for Mac Slavo's silly website.  

Yeah, I know.  Freedom, freedom, freedom.  Me and my little pistol are going to stop the 81st Airborne when they're sent to Minneapolis to get my stack of pre-1964 silver quarters.  If the Rooskies nuke us, or the Pakis, they'll think twice knowing I have a couple of pistols and can usually get them loaded right.  And all the ISIS guys in Mexico sneaking over the Rio Grande to...well, fuck, I don't know what  they're planning to do.  Probably roofing and landscaping, like everybody else coming here from Mexico; but you know, Moo-zzz-lim roofing.  Terrorist landscaping.  So I'd better have as many guns as I can, so they know I love Freedom.

Well, let's not start sucking each other's dicks quite yet.  Let's not believe our own bullshit.  We like violence and we like guns.  We've decided it's all worth it, until somebody we  know and love gets killed, but it's a big country with a lot of people so we don't give a fuck just yet.  Like all the people driving around using their smart phones, causing havoc left and right; we're pretty sure we're awesome-sauce drivers no matter who honks at us and flips us the bird, so we're not going to do anything sensible about that, either.

Again; Fine.  Let's just not make up a bunch of bullshit justifications.  We like it and we're not going to give up anything we like for any reason.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:31 | 6244395 Polymarkos
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Take out 4 US cities, and the murder rate drops to less than that of the UK. Hmmm....

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 15:33 | 6245761 Rastech
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Apart from Chicago and Detroit, the murder rate in the heavily armed States borering Canada, is lower than in Canada. 

 

Guns in the hands of the law abiding, save a huge number of lives every year, prevent a huge number of rapes, and prevent a huge number of crimes (one study suggests the number of crimes prevented is over 2 million a year, with guns very rarely having to be used - once the criminal sees the gun produced, they tend to hightail it away from the area).

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 17:42 | 6246382 Real Estate Geek
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That sounds significant.  Can you share a link?

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:46 | 6244467 nmewn
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This may not have dawned on you but ya know, if we banned cars the death rate from auto accidents would plummet to zero!

And swimming pools and electricity and...

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:54 | 6244515 A Lunatic
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Oddly enough no one ever calls for a ban on cars even though an average of 33,000 people are killed in car accidents every year in America alone.......

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:09 | 6244596 nmewn
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Yeah, I can't wait till they force driverless cars on us, it'll be sooo much safer having no control whatsoever!...lol.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 15:29 | 6245735 Rastech
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With the ease with which Government "secure" computers are being hacked, is there anybody REALLY stupid enough to get into a driverless car?

Mon, 06/29/2015 - 02:12 | 6248020 monad
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Have you ever stopped a robot car? Its about as hard as graffitti.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 15:27 | 6245730 Rastech
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@ nmewn 

 

That would mean a return to horse transport then.

 

Guess what, the annual death rate from horse transport, was far higher than with cars . . . . . . . 

Mon, 06/29/2015 - 02:11 | 6248019 monad
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Death by Camel and Horse will be up. Then there's Al Gore, bitching about dung. Maybe technology is better...

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:51 | 6244501 WeR138
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Bravo!  You've conviced me.

Now all we have to do is round up all of the illegal firearms in this country. You know, going door to door. That sort of thing.

And when I say "We", I mean "You".

And you should probably start in Detroit.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:16 | 6244633 absente reo
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@swmnguy Well said. You get an upvote from me but sadly your independent thinking is not appreciated by most who read it, probably most of whom cannot understand it anyway.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:17 | 6245026 css1971
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Switzerland has direct democracy, and assault rifles.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 14:43 | 6245514 Kprime
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Anti-weapon folks like to quote stats to make American seem violent.  All civilizations have some violence and always will have.  However, those against guns like to quote stats showing how much gun violence there is in America.  America is "awash in guns" they say.  I say thank god for that.

One stat I have never heard and I think would be quite interesting.  Deaths by gun per 100 guns.  Yes, we have millions of guns in America.  Owned by the citizens.  Yet in spite of Millions Of Guns we have relatively few deaths by gun.  Other countries ban guns and yet they still have gun deaths.  This only proves the oft repeated statement that only outlaws will have guns if you outlaw guns.  So if you consider the death rate, by gun, in a country with a gun ban the death by gun per 100 guns is very high.  An incredibly high percentage of America's guns are innocent of any crime.  That's millions and millions of innocent guns living in America.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 14:58 | 6245601 dizzyfingers
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In other words, fewer guns make criminals safer.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:30 | 6244385 Drain Bamage
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Why don't they put straitjackets on all the plebs and be done with it. 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:30 | 6244387 Polymarkos
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Englishmen's balls have completely dropped off.

 

Where are the ghosts of the Victorian armies who bayoneted their away across India, Asia, and Africa?

 

I'm going out back to forge myself a bigass bowie knife right now.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:35 | 6244398 newsoutlet
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Murder rate

Iceland: 0

Germany: 0.86

Italy: 1.1

Finland: 2.5

Latvia: 4.8

US: 5

 

And than starts all those countries.. you know... "those countries" and their murder rate is

 

Suriname: 14

Russia: 15

Mexico: 15

Chad: 19

 

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Murder-rate#descrip...

 

 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:38 | 6244428 falak pema
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chad is a tad bad and its sad as there is a lake in chad, i've tasted it.

If it changed its name to chador maybe that would help. 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:42 | 6244438 newsoutlet
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The murder rate in Chad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chad

is slightly higher than in Russia under criminal putin regime control.

 

:D

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:52 | 6244506 DIgnified
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You're like a ThinkProgress article with a pulse.  Do you have any thoughts you weren't told to have?

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:54 | 6244516 all-priced-in
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Some people need killing -

 

Some people are only alive because killing them is illegal.

 

 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:56 | 6244531 Consuelo
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Don't you have some chocolates to make, Porky...?

 

 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 17:48 | 6246404 Icelandicsaga.....
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Most of the countries with murder rates are also BY and large HOMOGENOUS societies.. that is the majority share same culture.. often the same race .. certainly the same cultural traditions and standards... but that goes against the cult like devotion progressives and the brain dead have towards. multiculturalism and worship at the alter of DIVERSITY .. a lot of the violence is ingrained in cultures .. without BIG cities . inner cities and sorry to say .. cultural norms among minority groups .. those same groups have the highest murder rates.. blacks having the highest per 1000 . hispanics not far behind .. homogenous cultures can get away with few guns .. not to mention no matter the argument of the BIG US military being used against civilians . they would hesitate at some point to use that military against American citizens .. during WWII those who had guns often managed to hold out against the nazis . was true in former Yugoslavia .. Greece . Warsaw Ghetto and France.. if push comes to shove and they use the military on US citizens.. one has to remember a LOT of VETS out there will fight back . count on it. Among the most notable resistance movements were the Polish Resistance, including the Polish Home Army, Le?ni, and the whole Polish Underground State; the Soviet partisans, the Italian Resistenza led mainly by the Italian CLN; the French Resistance, Yugoslav Partisans, the Belgian Resistance, the Norwegian Resistance, the Greek Resistance and the Dutch Resistance. AND THEY were all armed . thank GOD .. The 'Forest Brothers of Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania .. the movie Defiance is the true story of two brothers and their armed friends who managed to hold out in the forests for the entire war .. saving 1200 people from teh camps . without arms those 1200 would not have survived. .......the occupation of Belarus by Nazi Germany  the Bielski brothers and a few others led the group who fled to the Naliboki forest .. others joined them . and survived.. so if you think people are going to roll over because some steroid mutton head in a uniform is heavily armed in numbers to be used against 300 million ..  . think again .. the USSA could not beat a bunch of sandal wearing low tech nits in Iraq or Afghanistan . wonder what it would be like if thousands of VETS decided they had enough with the govt. of the USSA when it decides to get nasty ..

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:37 | 6244402 new game
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swnguy-compare the cultures percentage by percent and get back to me on apple/apples or aples/oranges situation. if i'm wrong i'll proptly admit that as part of the equasion the culture of the peoples is a very big factor. in japan almost zero fatal shooting amoungst docile culture of extreme majority japanese and guns are baneed-plez explain that to me? TIA

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:42 | 6244447 new game
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europeans are fucking violent - remember the american indian? best to have a gun when ya know a gun may be present, same as 1000 years ago, only it was a sword...

ha, lol at the stupidity on this board. turn in your guns, double dare you, ha, better yet i'll take it off your hands so you don't have to be ridden with guilt and temptation, ha(again)...

knives accepted too....

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:38 | 6244413 Kirk2NCC1701
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Ok, I'll surrender my wife, and get a life.  ;-)

And should I short the stocks for Sheffield Knives? 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:36 | 6244415 falak pema
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the day the pedophiles are asked to voluntarily hand over their sick dicks and they obey  there will be hope for humanity.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:42 | 6244444 dogismycopilot
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I was reading about Tunisa today. Apparently quite a few Brits were playing dead. They even heard the asshole stop to reload. No one decided that would be a good time to bum rush him and beat him to death with his weapon. And yes, assholes, I have done that before (though it was an armed robbery and once I tackled him several other customers then joined in and the police showed up before we could beat his ass).

Where have all of the men in Britain gone? Next thing you know they will be forced to turn in their Jack Russells. Oops too late. 2006 Hunting Act took care of that one. No dawg hunting allowed.

Fuck the United Nations and fuck the EU.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:45 | 6244459 newsoutlet
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Was it in your murderer country russia parasha :D

Or your wet dreams?

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:03 | 6244562 dogismycopilot
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Are you drunk or just a non-English speaker?

The funny thing is it was totally just a natural reaction. I didn't even think. It just happened. In fact, as I was running to the guy part of my brain was screaming "What the fuck are you doing?" and before I could answer myself I had knocked the guy over.

 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:43 | 6244450 Superdave532
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Stories like this make me so fucking glad I live in Texas.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:50 | 6244499 A Lunatic
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Because Texans don't bleed. In fact I've seen texan children walk off Bowie knife wounds that would fucking kill a grown man from Oklahoma in seconds.......

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:40 | 6245186 espirit
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I'd like to move from Florida to Texas...

but I'm not sure I'd survive the initiation.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 15:11 | 6245662 Superdave532
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Even with the oil market the way it is, there are very few other states I'd rather live in for the near future. 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:45 | 6244463 topspinslicer
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I would feel much safer if the Government had a sharp pencil division

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:47 | 6244471 DipshitMiddleCl...
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yeah..the britCuck liberals will turn in their guns while the somali niggers and muslims start stabbing everyone

 

fuck the uK!

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:49 | 6244490 GRDguy
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Full circle:  Japanese made Okinawans destroy all metallic weapons after taking over the islands. Guess where Okinawan martial arts developed. Organized religion, coupled with organized government, intends to make everyone's mind, body and soul completely defenseless. Mastering the old self-defense arts will become a necessity should you wish to continue living.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:56 | 6244818 css1971
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"Guess where Okinawan martial arts developed"

Myth.

Karate was largely imported from China by the Okinawan aristocracy. They used it for personal defence, and the common ancestor of the most common karate styles was a bodyguard to the Okinawan king. It is based on various forms of Kung Fu, though the most common would probably be White Crane.

I've practiced it for most of a decade, and I highly recommend you don't take up any martial art which is derived from Chinese kung-fu. The problem is not the martial art per-se, it's the teachers. Only a tiny percentage of Karate, Kung-fu and TaeKwonDo teachers are competent. The rest of them (the overwhelming majority) fundamentally don't understand what their martial art is and how it works.

Your best bet would be Krav Maga, traditional japanese Ju-Jutsu or some specific self defense classes from someone who has experience dealing with situations; bouncer, police officers, army etc. Also. While sport based martial arts can be effective and the practitioners are typically fairly formidable, they also fundamentally teach you bad practices and habits which can be fatal in a non sporting environment. (e.g. BJJ, Judo and Wrestling habits of deliberately taking a fight to the ground)

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 11:53 | 6244511 Consuelo
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"This happy breed of men, this little world,
This precious stone set in the silver sea,
Which serves it in the office of a wall,
Or as a moat defensive to a house,
Against the envy of less happier lands,
This blessed plot, this earth, this realm, this England."
Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:06 | 6244578 A Lunatic
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When Governments around the world rule their people through intimidation, threats of violence and even murder; when they marginalize and emasculate the male species, when they hold up the doctrine of Nihilism as the gospel in a new world order, what is the worst that can happen........

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:32 | 6244715 JessieSharpton
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Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:31 | 6244717 JessieSharpton
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Faustian bargins for power, always end in ascension toward lower dimensional after life planes of the universe.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:16 | 6244632 VelvetHog
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There is already legislation in the pipeline in the UK to ban feather pilows as they can be used to suffocate people who really deserve it.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:23 | 6244671 absente reo
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It's called an amnesty, and if it gets just one knife off teh streets, it's a success, in my book.

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