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With Knife Murders Spiking After Gun Ban, UK Urges "Save A Life - Surrender Your Knife"

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Just a week ago, we noted the hard-working US government was drawing up plans for "knife regulations." Well, in The UK it appears to have already begun...

As SHTFPlan.com's Mac Slavo warns, don't try to think this one through - the logica fail and sheer volume of absurdity might just make you sick if you do...

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For the UK – whose laws and policies all-too-often influence those of the U.S. – gun control isn’t enough. Probably nothing will ever be enough.

Now a call to surrender knives, ongoing for years, is in full swing. Via Citizen Action:

The right to bear arms might be under attack here in America–but in the United Kingdom, police are trying to do something even more ridiculous: they’re attempting to ban knives.

 

The British police have recently joined forces with liberal grassroots activists in the UK, launching the “Save a Life–Surrender Your Knife” program. Knife crime has been climbing recently in major UK cities like London.

 

The program involved several weeks of “amnesty” for “pointed knives.” Civilians can turn in these apparently dangerous weapons at their local police station in exchange for “amnesty,” apparently, even though knives (rounded or pointed) aren’t illegal in the United Kingdom.

There is, however, a ban on people under 18 buying knives – going so far on the absurdity scale as to ban underage purchases of plastic knives! No joke. One woman in her 20s was even barred from buying spoons without proper ID:

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Since knives are used for food preparation and many other basic and essential activities, and virtually any crude material can be transformed into a knife, even police admit the “amnesty” for turning in knives will do nothing to stop knife crimes (but it will do a great deal for instilling a mentality of helplessness while heaping on more and more rules).

Because the problem with knife crime, however, is that it’s pretty much impossible to stop just by banning knives itself. Virtually every person in the United Kingdom owns a knife–and, as long as food needs cutting, that’s not going to change.

[…] the problem is that “many assaults are committed impulsively, prompted by alcohol and drugs, and a kitchen knife often makes an all too available weapon.”

Despite the attempt to paint knife crimes as an impulsive issue of short tempers and petty disputes, carjackings, robberies and premeditated murders are frequently committed with knives in the UK… and the system is trying to make sure victims remain defenseless.

Here is what the murder rate looks like since the UK’s gun ban – with knife murders spiking drastically:

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Police departments in the UK, urging people to give up their blades, including those from the kitchen, are literally advising people to NOT to become a victim by NOT defending themselves:

Don’t be a victim

If you feel you are in immediate danger from knife crime there are a number of steps you can take to protect yourself:
• Move away from the situation towards a public place (shop, house, restaurant etc.) as quickly as possible.
• Make as much noise as you can.
• Instead of carrying a knife, carry a personal alarm.
• Don’t fight back.

The same “logic” has of course been used in American debates on guns, with Homeland Security training even advising would-be victims at schools and offices to hide or throw cans of soup at active shooters.

It is a good enough assertion at this point to suppose that all the sharpest knives in the drawer have already been turned in or confiscated… as clearly no one in a position of authority has common sense or wits about them at all.

 

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Sun, 06/28/2015 - 18:05 | 6246470 Icelandicsaga.....
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When SHTF day comes.. you and yourss will be among the first to die.. its a given .. you will be looking for someone . .like a cop to save your ass . .and they will be too busy saving their own and that of their families to take care of your 911 call .. your attitude indicates someone totally unprepared to live in a world turned upside down .. if you live in a large city . your lifespan after IT starts will be one week if you are lucky .. you might consider reading the experience of someone who survived in a city situation after all hell breaks loose . this guy and his extended family survived and helped others survive becuae they were armend and prepared to work together in every way .. I would wish you luck but in my heart of hearts. . the gene pool needs culling. But just cause I am a nice guy . here is the article you would do yourself and anyone you care about . a favor by reading it .. http://www.naturalnews.com/040249_Bosnia_preppers_survival_strategies.html

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:23 | 6244676 teslaberry
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Since knives are used for food preparation and many other basic and essential activities, and virtually any crude material can be transformed into a knife, even police admit the “amnesty” for turning in knives will do nothing to stop knife crimes (but it will do a great deal for instilling a mentality of helplessness while heaping on more and more rules).

 

it's not about that. the boxes are advertisements to socially brainwash a small % of people to think knives are bad , and the state is their protector ,and that they should obey authority.

 

it's cultivating obedience from a few % of people who are pscyhologically like children needing a master. and IT WORKS VERY VERY WELL.

 

THIS ISN'T ABOUT KNIVES ITS ABOUT THE PSYCHOLOGY OF POWER.

 

eric fromm escape from freedom.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:43 | 6245200 espirit
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Kin I kept my Stihl Chainsaw?

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:26 | 6244691 Oquities
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dateline 2025 - after banning guns, then knives, then banning anything with a handle longer than 2 inches, the British government has finally decided, after much hand-wringing by leaders, to ban hands.  the wise leaders took their cue from African tribes who cut off their enemies' hands as a defensive measure against any furture violence.  all surgically removed hands will be replaced by bionic instruments provided with government programming to refrain from any act of self-defense.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:29 | 6244702 In.Sip.ient
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ROFLMAO...

 

Let's not stop here.

Let's ban wooden sticks.

Especially the pointy kind.

 

Me thinks the UK is in serious need of an application of

Voltaire's dictum..."the best form of gov't is a democracy

with the occassional assassination".

 

Or should we just wait for ISIS to do it???

 

 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:38 | 6244722 css1971
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The last time I was threatened in Glasgow in the UK, the assailant used a flat head screwdriver which had been filed slightly to a sharpened edge. It isn't a deadly weapon, it's just a tool someone might carry. Therefore no "intent".

If you're worried about knives you need to know a little bit about how they work. Stabbing, they just punch through even multiple layers of heavy clothing though you have to commit to the stab to get through, casual or "sewing machine" stabs won't make it through heavy clothing.

Cutting or slashing, even light clothing will seriously limit damage to you from a slash and multiple layers of clothing can prevent a slashing type attack from causing damange, completely. This is why historically they wore fabric armours, they're highly effective against slashing or cutting and it's why European medieval swords evolved from choppers to thrusters. It's also why martial arts which use slashing type attacks are prevalent in hot countries and completely useless in cold ones and the "sharpie" tests are similarly useless.

The screwdriver would just punch through clothing, it's as dangerous as any knife. This is going to create a problem for the economy, Without screwdrivers, lots of jobs will become impossible.

So on guns. A 38 special with a 2" barrel has a muzzle energy of about 200 Joules. A 1/2 lb (250 gram) rock thrown at 65mph (30m/s) has about 112 Joules of energy. If you take that rock and use a sling to throw it at 90mph instead of 65, it now has about the same energy as the gun bullet; 200 Joules and it's just as devastating when it hits. Banning rocks is also a bit of a problem. There are lots of them lying around.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:37 | 6244751 localizer
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WTF, platic knives getting banned?! Madness right there... perhaps ban pens and pencils next, huh? Knife bans as such are idiotic since every household has a kitchen full of knives... even OTF and AO knife regulations make no sense. A speed safe Kershaw opens as fast as Microtech OTF... hell, even manual Benchmade open as fast... so what's the point in these "laws"? Have such regulations actually reduced crime rates?

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 12:46 | 6244813 ISEEIT
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Knife crime is caused by climate change.

 

If you pay for it..

100% guarantee some leftist shit fer brains will provide a 'peer reviewed' study to prove it.

 

Not kidding.

 

It really is that far gone.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:01 | 6244909 _SILENCER
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If the Brits go along with this, they deserve every ounce of misery cioming to them. They live in techno tyranny habitrail already, so I suppose it's just the next step of their domestication.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:48 | 6245221 espirit
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I dunno, just another way to avoid Mad Cow Disease...

and the difficulty chewing with loss of teeth due to radiation poisoning.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:06 | 6244953 sTls7
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Gee, remember Jack the Ripper... ?

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:11 | 6244979 Pumpkin
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until they confiscate the rope, nobody is safe.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:11 | 6244982 YHC-FTSE
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This is not "News". This stupidity has been going on for quite some time where I live in the outskirts of London. "Knife Amnesty Bins" have been a regular feature infront of police stations and recyling bins for well over a decade at least. It's a fucking pain because knives and swords are a particular hobby of mine, being a member of the BFA.

When I was a boy, I remember when I could carry my 22LR rifle down the high street without a second glance for my school gun club, the only stipulation was a rifle bag. If some kid did that now, it'd be front page news with armed police turning up in APCs. Amazing how things can change in a lifetime.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:27 | 6245106 logicalman
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Was in a gun club in UK way back in 60's.

Never seemed to worry anyone.

People have been educated to live in fear.

Unfortunately, for the vast majority, that education has worked (far better than the so-called 'education' happening in schools)

I have a fine collection of sharp triangular pieces of metal on long sticks with feathers on the other end along with sticks with a string running from one end to the other.

Don't live in UK these days.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 16:20 | 6245920 steelrules
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"When I was a boy, I remember when I could carry my 22LR rifle down the high street without a second glance"

Same here in Canada, but we all know this is not about public safety.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:27 | 6245100 yellowsub
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So next there's goign to be an increase in bludgeon deaths...

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:56 | 6245214 Laddie
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I recall a few decades ago UK banned POINTED knives for citizens. They had these TV spots on the Beeb with chefs showing how to carve a roast with a rounded knife end.

I may suggest that the uptick in murderous assaults and what not is linked to the darkening of UK.

In Rio de Janeiro:

"In May, a 56-year-old doctor was stabbed to death as he cycled home from work in the early evening around the Lagoa, a lagoon in the affluent south zone that will host Olympic rowing.

In February, a German tourist died after being stabbed during the day in the downtown business district."

In China there have been large scale mass murders with knives, may of them actually.

You know Asians are the "model" immigrant so they tell us.

Without a means of self-defense Whites are in EXTREME peril:

This video is, apparently, hidden, couldn't find it through google and that is UNUSUAL for liveleak. A black male is taking the video: a white mother with her baby and a white female friend are sitting on a park bench.

Usually I can give a direct link to a page at liveleak, not with this one:
http://www.liveleak.com/ll_embed?f=15bf5622c5e8

This is from March 2015
Young Girl and Little Brother attacked
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b10_1426395873

The attackers "APPEARED" to be black!!

Indianapolis Playground Beating: Girl and Her Little Brother Brutally Attacked in Park March 15, 2015
The Indianapolis playground beating may have been racially motivated. The victim and her brother were white and the attackers appeared to be black. As the victim was asking why she was being attacked, one of the boys in the group appeared to answer, “You white, bitch.”

Young Girl and Little Brother attacked
Video posted on (and removed from) facebook of brutal attack on a female and her little brother
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b10_1426395873

Cops Post Video of Brutal Beating in Attempt to ID Suspects; YouTube Removes

After Cops Post Video of Brutal Beating in Attempt to ID Suspects, YouTube Reportedly Takes Action You Might Find Hard to Swallow
Dave Urbanski, The Blaze, September 20, 2014

Remember the surveillance video showing six male suspects brutally beating a couple outside a club in downtown Springfield, Missouri?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=282_1409879278
Unprovoked Brutal Bashing of Couple
Police have released chilling CCTV footage of what they are describing as a 'hate crime', where a group of men have viciously assaulted a couple from behind.

Mike Brown question sparks MetroLink beating caught on video

WARNING: THIS VIDEO CONTAINS IMAGES AND LANGUAGE THAT MAY OFFEND SOME VIEWERS.

ST. LOUIS, MO (KTVI) – A MetroLink beating captured on video is now lighting up social media in St. Louis. Viewers sent the video to FOX 2 on Twitter and Facebook pages looking for answers. Police say the beating happened on Monday evening at 9:54pm. The victim, a 43-year-old white male, tells investigators that a question about Mike Brown sparked the incident.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L32MwMAjV2M
Raw Video: Metrolink Attack
KMOX1120 Published on Mar 27, 2015
A video recorded on a St. Louis Metrolink train shows a group of men attacking a passenger.

You know the MSM hides the crimes committed against White people: See: http://newnation.org/

The Race War of Black Against White
by Paul Sheehan. Saturday, 20 May 1995
The Sydney Morning Herald (Australia)

http://thezebraproject.blogspot.com/ This blog is about the Zebra Killers in San Francisco. Clark Howard's book about it ZEBRA is a must read, probably out of print. He reported that the CA Attorney General's office said 270 White men, women, and children had been murdered by the Black Muslims in the early 1970s.

Mon, 06/29/2015 - 02:08 | 6248003 monad
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You get Argentine steak. We don't.

I could eat that with a butter knife.

The solution to the rest of it is just breed more. Fuck your ass off, like your competition is doing. And poison their water with synthetic female hormones. Like your competition has done.

One thing: do not reveal your inventions and discoveries. Use them, but don't expose them to traitors and those who will copy if they can land one. British Steel -> Krupp = total war.

Hillary Clinton can be sued for attempting to incite violence in Charleston. But find a lawyer...

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 13:53 | 6245247 XitSam
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Treating the symptom.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 14:02 | 6245292 mendolover
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I guess they are assuming that Soylent Green will be issued in squeeze bottles.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 14:02 | 6245293 Last of the Mid...
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Knife surrender bin. LMFAO, right next to the testicle surrender bin. Sheeitttt

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 14:11 | 6245338 rosiescenario
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Yet, once again, we witness the absolute conceit of lawmakers....they actually think that if a law is passed it is going to be followed. They have not been able to realize that, by definition, lawbreakers do not follow the law.

 

Personally, I have guns, knives, and have recently begun a collection of nicely forged custom tomahawks...made in America from Dylan's forge....very nice workmanship....recommend them to anyone not wishing to carry a knife.....

 

 

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 14:39 | 6245489 dizzyfingers
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Ye Gods, they were so dumb they didn't figure out before the ban that this would happen? We were in England on business within 2 months of the commencement of the law and everyone we met was telling us about neighbors, friends, family, or themselves being attacked IN THEIR HOMES by creeps with knives.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 14:47 | 6245539 Coletrane
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the third reich is going to look like a bunch of teletubbies as compared to what this idiocy WILL bring about in time.........

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 14:49 | 6245554 Dixie Flatline
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Turth is stranger than fiction.  JUST LOL @ how far England has fallen...

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 14:51 | 6245559 Dixie Flatline
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Wnat an eye opener?  Just search "Glassing" in England.  Take away the knives and these heathen savages will just smash glasses into each other's faces.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 14:51 | 6245561 Ajax_USB_Port_R...
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Steak knives are the devil's work!

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 15:09 | 6245642 user2011
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Next round... rocks and stones.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 15:39 | 6245692 beaglebog
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Two fatal stabbings in pubs this weekend, in my English city .... of just 300,000 people.

 

More probable that you'll be kicked to death, though ... by the police, most likely.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 15:38 | 6245772 Rastech
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Gun control is never about guns. It is only about control.

 

The gun banners really love guns. In the hands of their personal bodyguards.

 

Bunch of terrified wimps that know they are up to all manner of no good, and know that they deserve to be shot for what they are doing, imho. 

 

Perhaps that's the question all the gun grabbers need to be asked - "What have you done, or are you doing, that makes you so sure that you deserve to be shot?"

Mon, 06/29/2015 - 01:57 | 6248001 monad
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Hitler banned guns in 1939. Then Germans died.

F**ck government.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 16:02 | 6245886 jonjon831983
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And so Soylent green became the only food of the land.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 16:22 | 6245955 logicalman
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Soylent Green - the ultimate form of recycling!

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 16:34 | 6246008 rsnoble
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Let's see, ban purchases under 18, yet most of the crimes are by those over 18.

Hope they don'ty read this because the next gov't action will be selling them to those that are only UNDER 18.

Fuck the world govts

 

LOL, go ahead ban guns in the US.  Try taking them you'll forget about those 9 that died in a church real fkn fast.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 17:03 | 6246159 Grouchy Marx
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I've been carrying a can of Campbell's chicken noodle soup in my pocket as a deterrent. I figure, if I miss, maybe the sodium will kill the perp. 

But I am concerned, as I am not licensed to carry soup.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 17:09 | 6246197 GreatUncle
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Fucking hilarious and I am old enough to remember in the UK the 70's and before when NEXT TO NOBODY CARRIED A KNIFE OR A GUN. Then the influx of mass immigration began, at first it was yardies and now it is eastern block gangsters who all carry knives. The UK politicians through multicultural racial mass immigration smashed the social structure to bits.

e.g.

Never knew anybody to get stabbed with a knife before I was 15 and never carried one neither. As kids we used to look on in amazement how cheap human life is in the USA and how violent it is only to thrn be betrayed by our politicians allowing the culture to be imposed here. Not blaming the migrants, the society they came from a knife is a necessity in a world where human life is worthless and where the UK has gone.

Sun, 06/28/2015 - 22:00 | 6247365 bobdog54
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Net net, British parenting may be the worst in the civilized world and hence their gun ban and now the knife ban. 

Mon, 06/29/2015 - 01:54 | 6247987 monad
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If you were going to kill 9 people and end your life, who would you choose? Obviously church going people aren't the rapists the Soros' media, the Soros' Hillary and the Soros' Biden would want you to believe this supposed hate crime was motived on. The serial felons are... Soros! Hillary! Biden! Obama!

After they murdered Beau Biden look for Joe to get dropped from the team. He's ready to pop.

Leave evidence, Joe.

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