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"Spread Bet" Early Market Opening Indications: Stocks Tumble, Europe Crashes
While there are still at least 4 hours until Sunday's first EUR price indications, which as we reported yesterday will likely switch "close only" mode for most FX brokers who still recall the horror of the SNB bait and switch, and just under 8 hours until the official open of US equity futures, one place to find out what investors are betting, literally, will be market levels at the open are UK spread bettors such as IG.
As the following screenshot shows, China's rate cut to halt its own market collapse may be promptly drowned out by the market's realization that contrary to clueless pundit ramblings, Greece was not "priced in."
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There are markets open in The Middle East and Saudi Arabia and Dubai stocks are down 2-3% for now...
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SHTF in T-minus...
Wanna have fun?
Tell people you see or talk to today the market crashes tomorrow.
But don't say why.
All is well. Remain Calm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDAmPIq29ro
Since bad things happen all together, now might be a great time for the rest of the PIIGS to revolt.
well, those who exit first exit best...then the rest will be clamouring for the high ground as fast as they can. Like a Tsunami coming. The smart people see the tide go way out and they know it's time to get the heck outta Dodge. Those who take their time and not paying attention won't have a chance to get away once that big wave comes barrelling in on them.
Just like stackin' phyzz...better to be stackin' now while we still can get it rather than after the shit hits the fan when nobody will be selling for anything made of paper.
Revolt, as in - millions of displaced PIGS flood Germany, France, Belgium, et al to get their benefits as legitimate members of the EU, not just some 3rd world refugees .. Unintended Consequences
Nothing is going to happen tomorrow. The NY FED will have everything under control, those fuckers. Infact something will happen and the market will reach all time highs again. This market is fucking rigged and we cant have the population know that everything is going to shit. Just watch.
This is not a "Lehman" weekend. This is more like when the Bear Stearns hedge funds blew up almost 8 years ago to the day. The summer may be a little bumpy, but this doesn't become a truly systemic issue until the focus becomes the other Euro countries. Only at that point will the "crisis" start to spin out of control. Just go back and look at the 2007 - 2009 timeline for an idea of what to look for.
Or LTCM? Or Global Crossing?
What if the Fed did lose control, and printing trillions didn't work? It's all they have.
Thousands of years of planning down the shitter. Then add exploding nuclear power plants from age and pushing their parameters to the max...
It ain't going to get better. Ever.
If Kevin Henry does his f'n job, we'll open ES 10 higher. Central planning at it's best. Keep the sheeple like mushrooms.
Can't downvote you: We don't know "The Plan" thus anything's possible.
After initial drop market will "unexpectedely" rally and yellrn will be showing who is the master and only strategy is to BTFD...
<--- Silver goes UP
<--- Silver goes DOWN
The comments are awesome. All jokes aside the Shemitah year +/- 3 months has a 100% track record of predicting all market and macro economic contractions. It completes on September 13, 2015. Oh shit. I just realized something. A country every two weeks is now supposed to default, and in short order Mexico will too. It will cause a bank run inside the United States to the tune of $15 Billion / hr. At the end of the day will be a banking holiday to last 3-6 months INSIDE AMERICA. I strongly suspect that day will be September 12th, 2015.
Silver and gold must crash with the market. Then when the whiteshirt shitheads who are holding gold paper realize they been bamboooooozled, the rush for real metal is on. BTFD
I've been doing that for years now... for some reason they don't listen anymore.
Touche!
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Complained?
Fill out form 39-a with addendum c attachment r, include statement yellow explaining reasons for said complain and expected redress, make six copies and send via post mail within six days to the various agency officials listed above. If no reply is heard or a nagatibe reply is recieved request annulment under Act 12 decreed D...her is the paperwork acknowledging said rights and responsibilities
And then...
No kidding, tried to educate my younger brother on what's going on. Sent him the video with the Swiss guy, calling out his Government on deliberate Immigration of the unwashed masses to destroy what little is left of the white middle class and what does he send me back? Some totally stupid, cornball Martial Arts clip, with guys flying fifty feet through the air and tearing each other's hearts out with a single swipe. I was kind of insulted. He said he'd rather have 'Entertainment' than be 'Educated'. What a moron. Might as well stand in line at the Supermarket and buy the magazines at the checkout counter; People, Us and and on and on. So he could know what Brad and Jen are up to, or if Princess Kate has a new 'Baby Bump'. How nauseating.
So when he comes to your house hungry, just say I told you but you wouldn't listen. Go watch youtube...you'll feel better.
Been there myself. Tried to outline to family about what is coming. One sibling said to me in response, "have you joined a cult or is this opinion one of those religious thingy's?"
Don't waste your time. We all have computers, internet, and the ability to research. If, in this day and age, someone can't spend an hour of their week researching this failed financial structure, then the heck with them.
I've given up and don't really care anymore. Meanwhile I watch my neighbor binge buy any POS that comes out. Consumerism, Hollywood, and brain-dead media are to blame for the lack of thinking and personal initiative that engulfs our society. And it's really quite sad given our research resources available today at our fingertips. With all this, it appears we've become dumber.
You can lead a horse to water...
At least we've done what our consciences have driven us to do. No more warnings. If they don't get it by now, too bad.
There comes a point when you can tell yourself, "I did the best I could". If not, keep trying. But if you can, then there's no need to lose sleep over anyone getting run over.
At some point, it's time to move on.
Its GREAT fun. Have bets lined up that the market is down 200+ tomorrow. Should finally be able to pay off my Jeep!
around noon, US stocks will rebound carrying the moniker 'safe-haven' risk assets.
Here's how it will play out.
Futures deep in the red on Monday
Market opens deep in the red on Monday
Yellen starts fluffing KFed, starting 9:45 AM, Monday
KFed responds by 12:30 PM
Markets start rising
A rumor from an unnamed ECB insider will be a breaking news in CNBS. Liesman will deliver the news that everything is solved.
Market hits green by 4 PM.
Futures rebound by early morning, Tuesday.
Back to normal when market opens on Tuesday.
Hope to be proven wrong, but...
And although the S&P, DOW, and other indicis are up, most individual stocks get hammered. So it is written.
You may be right. On the other hand, everyone knows this has been coming for a very very long time. Those in the know may be massively short and will get a pleasant payday. Then they take their ill gotten gains and buy up oil and banks. Lather rinse repeat.
Those in the know may be massively short.
Which could lead to a massive Short Squeeze. It has been know to happen on more than one occasional over the last few years. If the Algo's sensse blood they will attack.
Bet on all of it.
+1. There has been a growing sense of circling sharks. Algos = "live by the sword, die by the sword".
Tyler, investors or speculators ? Anyone buying EU DIs was pure speculating, over the past say 2-3 years.
it doesnt matter if greece exits the eu to us markets. the us markets always find a reason to recover, because the fed , congress, the prez are all-in. the truly elite ruling class is salivating at an epic crash, so they can physically own more of this globe.
Or it could be once the stampede starts there will be no going back. The US market might just take off as a "safe" haven.
The markets will be halted while they plug the holes, that is for sure.
Sure sounds good for the dollar. Who panic buys into equities though?
Treasuries is where everyone runs to....especially if the Fed really is going to raise rates come hell or highwater.
Gold and silver look set to be a dangerous levered bet as well as "country contagion" puts a premium on liquidity and depth and breadth of markets and not on something that is almost impossible to mine and no one ever sells.
"Relinquishing all False Hopes, Pretenses and Illusions, and accepting Reality, is the first step to true Wisdom" -Kirk
Somebody's gonna make a lot of money tomorrow. Heck even J. P. Morgan shorted his own bank. You can bet Soros, Buffet, et al are perched on the fences waiting for the bodies to stink.
dump everything into precious metals
Not yet. Several months of grace periods and margin calls ahead.
PM prices will fall for a while yet, but getting actual delivery may be the real problem now.
While the shit has been in transit toward the fan blades for over 5 years, the fan keeps being moved. I still expect, before tomorrow morning's openings that the fan gets moved again.
Its one of the old fans with pot aluminum blade holders.
Eventually they just break, and the blades fly off into the shit.Not the shit hitting the fan,
the fan hitting the shit.
I still have and maintain an old Robbins & Myers 3-speed fan. It's the quietest fan in the house and throws more air on low speed than most fans today can manage on their highest setting. The minimal fan shroud offers almost no resistance to the air but is considered a safety hazard today. The blades are brass, bolted to a cast iron hub. I can't remember the brand of fan that was known for throwing blades. There must of been a hundred different brands by the late 1930's.
I saw a newish paddle fan throw a blade when it was running flat out on my cousin's porch. It got out of balance and wobbled enough that it tore itself loose from the plastic mounting box on the rafter before it could be turned off. It ended up hanging by the wires but the blade ended up in the potato salad. He should have taken another 10 minutes and put a proper metal mounting box up when he installed it.
US s&p will be green at some point tomorrow. The ppt has been training for this event.
But how much will it cost?
I know, it doesn't matter, but I'd still like to know.
But the Eurocrats told us Greece is no big deal.
What price does EURUSD open at? USDJPY open below 122.5 running all those stops?
Needs one heck of a big "correction"....needs a frickin' slaughter before I come back....
Everything but gold/silver will be green by eod Monday.
Good news. I'll be buying like monkey in a banana Whorehouse.
Shorted Dax at 11520 on Friday close, could be interesting!
Last second stick save, all will be fine.
Good bye, Deutsche Bank...I'd say it's been nice knowing you, but it really hasn't....
Good bye, Deutsche Bank...I'd say it's been nice knowing you, but it really hasn't....
Will be interesting to see how PMs open this afternoon.
Lower? Always a reason to sell paper gold.
-283? Not enough.
EASY MONEY Euro crashes ! only for those with the ability to trade ....
Get ready to buy!
YES! Please do, Euro is only breaking slightly, safe buy for sure, I mean the debt of Italy, france, portugal, netherlands, and on and on is safe, Germany's Schäuble guarantees to do whatever it takes ...
Since when is debt bad for currency valuations? The USD says otherwise, 18 trillion and still going strong like a mofo - it doesn't even compare!
Is the different this time. Stocks will be green and why worry? We gay marriage to look foward to comrads. All is fine.
Will be interesting to see if they 'switch off the circuit breakers' if it gets too bad too quick tomorrow.
There will be no crash.
Only what they orchestrate happens. Beware a pop up....then Lucy pulls the football.
And by the end of the day it will be green and 'fixed', well they are 'fixed' "markets" and have been for a very long time
im 100% cash so it will be interesting to watch and not worry
Which currency?
Really?
Great opportunity for laundering money, there is a ton on the sidelines and if banks just keep the transactions to themselves instead of reporting to big bro there may be enough incoming to save the day. Greece should look into this. I would. Money is money and who cares where it has been?
After all do you know if the cash in you wallet paid someone for a hit, or to buy a hooker or coke? I don't and I don't care as that side of life is unstoppable and most of .gov is complicit in these things.
Did someone say "hookers and coke?"
PPT at the ready, complete with the PM monkey hammer battalion. Dollar and NYSE go up because "everywhere else sucks" will be the messaging.
Two quotes come to mind for "You"
The higher your are , the farther you have to fall.
and
There is a greater weath differencial of not having enough to having enough,
than of having enough and of having too much.
You thought Lehman was bad wait til you get a load of deutsche
Since Deutsche ® ?
Why worry, they're just "Duetsche Bags" anyway. Funny, how all their top tier execs and CEO's have been bailing out recently...
Since bankers have been orchestrating theft and deception since 1649 and it MAY seem that the bases are loaded in a TIE game with the cleanup-hitter at the plate in the bottom of the 9th with a 3-0 count; the Central Banker pitcher on the mound is not even breaking a sweat...Someday the system will implode but TOMORROW will be easily and adroitly handled...
The Fed's Plunge Protection Team is fired up and waiting in the wings!!
You wouldn't happen to have a flame thrower handy...would ya?
Finding a wrecking ball would be a cinch! They are everywhere around there.
Yes, they have the biggest shit cannon they could find on standby.
https://fasab.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/david-cannon-spraying-manure.jpg
Counterfitters Olympic Games gets underway Monday
They will ban selling stawks and euros, and ban buying gold and silver
Last time they banned shorting the markets and buying inverse ETFs.
I think stron rebound later next week. Buy, dax soars to 13000
Oh, I think Geece was priced in. But what's currently being priced in is what happens after the Grexit. Portugal is right behind them. And if you believe Ms. Le Pen, France is ready to follow. Which automatically means so will Spain and Italy. This was never about Greece (alone). As many people pointed out, they were too small and insignificant to worry about. But now that it appears they will indeed leave, it starts the rest of the domines into motion.
No kidding? It's not about Greece alone?
Huh – who'dathunk?
Sheeples in the USA too busy with vacation planning. Can't be bothered.
They'll be bothered when come July 4th weekend their ATM signals "closed for business come back tomorrow".
Planning on spending vacation Drachmas in Greece maybe????
Ouzo is good and cheap and tastes great after a couple of heaping scoops of tzatziki. Mmmmmmh.
What, Europeans don't plan/use their six weeks of vacation?
America, do you think if 10% of your citizens went to the ATM's to withdraw their maximum quota of deposits the banks could handle it?
After all it is your money, isn't it? Where is it? Who has it?
That is what the Greeks are asking themselves.
Why do you think the Troika is stunned, they thought they could force/bullshit this through but hadn't counted on a couple on non-pol guys who don't bullshit calling their bluff.
America and the EU are so over exposed that they are in danger of a free fall.
Bring back Glass-Seagal, outlaw derivatives, work within non deficit budgets, charge the crooks and bring them to trial, close criminal corps such as Goldman Sachs and leave the military spending to those who are being invaded for self defense. This bullshit has gone on too long without control, and oh yeah kick out Obama and crew for fraud, breaking the oath, lying and drone murders of suspects.
The above will go a long way to fixing things.
Well said. Time to charge Goldman Sucks with fraudulent crimilarity, the most crooked outfit there is.
Racketeering.
Criminal Syndication.
RICO
The last thing the banksters want is to show the world that they can be beat. This is going to be interesting. Will the banksters let the wheels come off, or will the Greeks be able to hold off for the win?
Only 7 more hours til the start of the Brussels bleedout at 3pm PT. Watch it live here, free, with DAX the probable downside leader, off 3-4%:
http://www.investing.com/indices/us-30-futures-advanced-chart
ya, if this does happen, then the next day or even that same day, we will get bs rumors of how they have reached a last second agreement to avoid a grexit, and all these rigged ''markets'' will recover all there losses and finish slighlty in the red or green, and then the very next day shoot up 5-6 percent.
in the u.s, we will here how greece does not matter, but when the bs rumors start to hit how it is fixed, we will have bob pisani and steve liesman telling us how ''traders'' are cheering a greek deal, u know the same greek deal that did not matter to the ''markets'' a few hours prior.
these ''markets'' should all lose 60 plus percent of there value if they wanted to be fairly valued, but a drop due to some political game will just be propped right back up on a bs rumor.
we can only pray that this is the real shtf moment, but unforutnately it will most likely be just another day where the fucking fed and ecb manipulate the '' markets''
Betting on the casinos (instead of in them) tells you all you need to know. It is going to take more than a system reset to fix this problem.
It is exactly this type of mentality that whatever new system put in place will just end up like the previous one.
The BATS system's "apology page" for the market breaking has been reworked to include a more soothing color palate and will be ready early tomorrow.
All shades of red have been changed to taupe.
So how many times the amount of Greek debt was lost in market cap as a result of the failure to reach agreement?
Tel Aviv is down 1.8 per cent, a bad day at the office, but that's all.
Mario will print, everyone else will BTFD and watch Greece burn. In the real world, life will go on.
Never bet against the FED. But, never bet against the ABYSS when it finally walks up to the table.
I liked that comment so much I had to do more than click the little green button. Posted on facebook. :).
Really? You mean the market didn't already "price-in" this "news"? Holy mackerel, Andy!
I personally have a short on the SPX. 'the sp500 since early last week. I'm in the money.
Now I doubt that short position because I'm a contrarian. Ergo if they are calling for 'blood in the streets' trading, come official opening of markets. I'm now more inclined to go 'Long' they the 'elites' will not permit a 'Rothchilds Napoleon' Blood in the Streets' moment.
Just my musing on the markets come Monday opening
June 28th
"That question is particularly acute for the hedge fund investors — including luminaries like David Einhorn and John Paulson — who have collectively poured more than 10 billion euros into Greek government bonds, bank stocks and a slew of other investments...."
""People are freaking out,” said the 32-year-old Mr. Papapolitis, his eyes red and his voice hoarse. “They have made some really big bets on Greece."
"A number of hedge funds have also made big bets on Greek banks, despite their thin levels of capital and nonperforming loans of around 50 percent of assets.
They include Mr. Einhorn at Greenlight Capital and Mr. Paulson, both of whom have invested and lost considerable sums in Piraeus Bank. Fairfax Financial Holdings and the distressed investor Wilbur Ross own a large stake in Eurobank, one Greece’s four main banks.
Big positions have also been taken in some of Greece’s largest companies. Fortress Capital bought $100 million in discounted debt belonging to Attica Holdings, Greece’s largest ferry boat holder. York Capital has taken a 10 percent stake in GEK Terna, a prominent Greek construction and energy firm.
In 2014, Blackstone’s credit arm bought a 10 percent chunk of the Greek real estate developer Lamda Development. And Third Point, one of the earliest, most successful investors in Greek government bonds, has set up a $750 million Greek equity fund."
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/29/business/dealbook/panic-among-hedge-fu...
Sometimes you lose.
Game on!
CAR!!!
Rips
Stats and charts on the decimated sea lion populations in california
http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2015/06/pacific-seals-dying-enmasse...
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j4SRsGn14PI
The FED plunge protection team is just waiting for enough of shorting to come to the table before they begin their work.
Be careful folks.
Then don't short. Just sell what you have to the Fed.
...and buy the fucking gold
the real question is do the banksters even want the PPT to step in at this point?
after all, there are plenty of recently re-built 401k's and whatnot available for the plundering.
but they would need the right crises, a 2008 redux, financial armageddon is nigh complete with blood in the streets and mass panic type of deal.
can Greece provide that?
the feds have certainly spent a lot of time, money and resources prepping for something...
jade helm, the TPP fast track and a grexit.
never let a good crises got to waste... or stop one from happening at an opportune moment.
I think there is a better then average chance that there will be multiple deer sightings tomorrow.
This is all pretty simple, it's the same game-plan as 1929: you use the muppets to inflate your asset prices, you sell your assets at the highest price to the dumbest of dumbfucks and then pull the ripcord. All assets drop to pennies on the dollar, you use all of your dry powder that you accumulated from your asset sale to aforementioned dumbfucks to buy back said assets from said dumbfucks at pennies on the dollar. Now you own the world and the dumbfucks are begging you to supply them with their daily bread...and feel free to take away some of my pesky freedom in order to keep me alive. After all, you can't eat Liberty.
Same as it ever was.
wrong thread, sorry
DHS warns of a gay rainbow flag terrorism plot. NSA is still analyzing Facebook accounts and Vonage/Magicjack VOIP user's.
/sarc
Can you see this coming? 'Due to a fire in a Wall Street power substation, the NYSE opening will be delayed.'
Just like clockwork -2008.
SEC Is Set to Issue Temporary Ban Against Short Selling - WSJ
George Soros and friends already have truckloads of short positions. Guess they don't want any party crashers to disrupt the plan (by covering shorts before it's time).
Get it on, bang a gong – get it on. OH
it be real, when short trades halted, many markets many miles, contagion’s Ragin - while - my guitar gently weeps.
You were inverted - look at you all. OH baby I love you all day long, love you good time. I want to be with you every day.
I want to tell ya why. I wish I could sell one, wouldn’t want to be long… brake those chains that bind you.
Yesterday’s seasons are no disgrace. Battleships travel very far and then they’re there. A smile upon your face. Caesars palace, Silly human race…l
I can feel it coming in the air tonight. It’s all been a pack of lies. I been waiting all my life for this moment, OH lord!
The hurt doesn’t show, the pain will grow – OH lord!
Hey jude don’t make it bad. Hey jude refrain! Let it out & let it in - liquidity that you need is a sad song made better, better, better - na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na…..
LIGHT’S OUT
Meanwhile I’m still thinkin
So the central bankers are going to stop printing money, to put fake prices on the computer screens, and let the confidence inspiring matrix, which keeps them out of prison, fall apart, due to an event that was totally forseeable?--This time?
I'm currently 'Water Boarding' myself in Guiness at my local, waiting for 'Authurs' intoxicating liquor to direct me to press the green 'long' button or the red. I have made more money being pissed than sober !. If that's not contrarian, I don't know what is !!.
I have purchased more stuff on eBay pissed than sober! LoL!
Stock brokers should change the "MARKET ORDER" button to a "BUY IT NOW" button.
If Greece is to have any shot at a decent future, they must now follow through, and bolster their government with ballot box support.
The needle has been seriously moved by their leaders sick of troika mistreatment.
The PEOPLE now need to respond in sufficient electoral force to drive the country out of endless economic repression, without recovery. The loans made to Greece can someday be repaid, but NOT like this.
It is YOUR future, too.
What kind of future do you have now?
What will be different a year from now?
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That number on the FTSE can't be right surely? A 50- 80 point drop is a vertical tumble for the FTSE. -211?
No longer any jokes about 'worst since Lehman'. It could become: So much worse THAN Lehman.
Turn on the printers!
Or the zero's on the computer. Imagine it's a guy a bit like 'the keymaster' in the second matrix in a little room getting an order and adding zero's on a computer. 0000000 <Enter>
The negative powers think they're so great but they really are pathetic.
And precious metals prices go either nowhere or straight down. Just as I am forced to sell some more.