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Greece Will Open 700 Bank Branches On Thursday - For Limited Pension Withdrawals Only
Good news - some Greek bank branches will re-open sooner than expected.
- *GREEK OFFICIAL: 700 BANK BRANCHES TO OPEN THURSDAY FOR PENSIONS
Bad news - only pension withdrawals are allowed in limited size.
- *GREEK PENSION WITHDRAWALS WILL BE LIMITED TO EU240: OFFICIAL
Party's over.
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No not over, just beginning.
To paraphrase Chris Hedges:
We now live in a world where doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the press destroys information, religion destroys morals, and banks destroy entire economies.Chris Hedges is one of the handful of journalists who remain. Really, the number is less than 10, IMHO.
... meanwhile ... hospitals report that the hearts of banksters are in strong demand by transplant patients, because they’ve never been used. ...
Anal sex should be banned..
Cause that's how banksters are born..
Waiting to get your pension payment from the government?
Good news - If you are not a dependent of the government, and have built some real wealth outside of the electronic-banking system, then you are going to be just fine.
Bad news - If you are a dependent of the government, then you are screwed.
One Solution:
The Twelve Steps
the care of gold, as we understand gold to be a physical asset - not a
paper promise.
paper assets of our wealth, thus eliminating our counterparties.
when no Libertarian is on the ballot, and then we voted against the
incumbent.
metal, as we understand silver to be a physical asset - not a paper
promise, paying for as many day-to-day transactions with silver as
possible, using our credit card (not debit) for what was not, and paying
off the entire balance each month.
tried to carry this message to others, and to practice these principles
in all our affairs.
When they go cashless and only allow gold/silver to be exchanged at government banks and rates with limitations.... What then?
Black markets have existed as long as "they" have tried to live off the productivity of others.
HH, I hope you are right, but I fear the opposite. Real wealth (i.e. savings) is what these government are all after since all they have is debt backing up the pensions. They are going to confiscate from everyone, and real wealth confiscation is the easiest way out. Forget government actually living within tax receipts means, because we will have war before that happens.
Electronic wealth in banks is far easier to confiscate than traditional wealth in the bottom of your local swimming hole.
But-but...
Black markets are ...*GASP*
AGAINST THE LAW!!!
You're correct. Kind of hard though to put everything in physical since that becomes it's own "carry and protect" burden when it reaches at a certain level. Even land is accessible by a global wealth tax, which is probably going to come at some point.
Since this will eventually happen in the U.S. (again), I would really like to see the law that says:
That's it. No complex rules or threats. If you are unable to do business with the little people, then you cease to exist. Do whatever bankster clownfuckery you find necessary to make sure that doesn't happen, or your bank is ours.
govts have always destroyed freedom - that's their job
thats a beautiful quote
Thursday? Bring a sleeping bag.
I'm don't think doctors destroyed health care but I know for sure HMOs lowered standards tremendously in the 1990s and Obamacare bashed it again in 2010. I still see too-many-to-count doctors not accepting any form of Obamacare insurance no matter whether it's bronz, silver, etc. So Barry boasts more people have insurance but he does not clarify fewer and fewer doctors accept it.
Oh yeah, try some of those urgent care doc-in-the-boix places on every corner now. Very very few of them accept any Obamacare insurance so your stuck with a > $2,000 bill to have a splinter pulled out of your hand.
It's going to become more acceptible to head over to Thailand for major elective surgery like joint replacements.
I am curious. What is "Obamacare insurance?" When I looked on my state's exchange, all I saw were the same options I could get by going to the insurance companies' websites. Since I'm not eligible for subsidies, I just continue to buy my policy directly from the insurance company, as I have for a dozen years or so.
And since my family is very healthy, we've had a high-deductible policy for a long time. As a matter of fact, I just had to pay about $500 to get a splinter pulled out of my hand. Would have been about $950, except the clinic has a discount for my insurance company.
I'm not disputing what you're saying. I'm not seeing how much it has to do with Obamacare, though. I don't see any substantive change since 2004 when I started using individual insurance, other than premiums go up every year.
Give a jingle to your various doctor's offices and see what they tell you. As the above poster said, there's many docs out there who no longer take many of these insurances. I was forced off my private, self-paying BCBS and pushed onto a O-Plan that I bought directly thru the insurance company [like you] and surprise, surprise, several of my docs do not accept it, even though its one of the better plans and No, I don't get subsidies either.
And these ER clinics --- be very careful since many of them do not accept many policies, This has been on the radio several times I think discussed by some hosp administrator from NYC who said the ER docs may or may not accept your insurance even if the hospital does! So you'll likely get numerous bills some or many of which are NOT covered by your insurer.
Good luck!
The reason fewer and fewer doctors accept O-Care is because there are fewer and fewer doctors with their own practice.
Most like the doctor I see have dropped their practice and become 'corporate doctors'. The Doctor I see has had a born again attitude. Actually gets upset that he cannot push unnecessary pills and tests on me.
Many now are on a payroll just like a convenience store clerk. Beware....
Agree with ya. Stay away from hospital or corporate docs since they can be difficult to deal with re: your bill since they simply pass the blame onto the hospital. Get a good doctor who has his own office and a good reputation to protect and been in practice for >5-8 years. They're usually harder to get an appointment but well worth it.
you are right on exactly right
Thanks.
Remind me; what did I say again?
HIGH ALERT TYLERS: THE BIS REPORT IS OUT, PLEASE READ IT
https://www.bis.org/publ/arpdf/ar2015e5.htm
IT STATES CLEARLY, WE ARE DONE AND THE BIG ONE IS COMING AND THE BIS WILL SACRIFICE SOME CENTRAL BANKS
To summarise, the workings of the International Monetary Financial System post-crisis have spread easy monetary and financial conditions from the reserve currency areas to the rest of the world, just as they did pre-crisis. Global financial conditions have consequently loosened to an extent that may not prove consistent with lasting financial and macroeconomic stability.
Summarized more, we are f*cked.
Hmmm.... I don't think you're taking that far enough, AlaricBalth.
The last sentence of the summary is: "...Moving beyond enlightened self-interest would require international cooperation on rules constraining domestic policies..."
It's not just that the current system(s) are broken and lead to instability. It's THIS: More global 'rules' are needed fo fix the system.
Sounds very NWOish to me.
THE BIS WILL SACRIFICE SOME CENTRAL BANKS
Do we need to say more?
ka mon! Give me moar! I got my pop corn here already!
That hope and change will bite you in the ass everytime.
And not just the Secular version.
Or is the Ecclesiastical version 'Special' and 'Exceptional'? All Latter Day Shamans think so. As do their Sheeple.
"To give up ALL illusions, fables and pretenses, is the beginning to true Wisdom" -Kirk
Except Zeus.
Zeus screws all the chicks and doesn't give a fuck about anything.
Now THAT's a God worthy of the name.
Oh? So the Greek Government already back-door cut pensions? Well they'll be capitulating any minute now....
Coming to America soon? How pissed are all the SS, and Pensioners going to be? Nah, I'm just kidding. Dancing with the Stars is on.... That's all that matters right?
Oh, and cute kitty pics on facebook and twitter. Everything is Ohkedokey.
NFL is about to start camps & pre-season - time to focus on your fantasy team lineups! And don't forget those Kardeshians (yes, intentionally mispelled)
Indeed! Each and every stadium is a FEMA fun camp when the time comes. Women this way, men that way. Congratulations! You are serfs on the World Communist Team now.
Please...
No more FIFA stories.
You mean you haven't been playing Fantasy Baseball? Or, Golf? Or, Bowlings? Or, whatever the fuck you can place after "Fantasy"...
You see an on going theme here? Dumb fucking idiots living is fantasy land.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnTU4dKpoB8
The Internet is the greatest invention in history for the collection and distribution of Human Knowledge; the equivalent of the ancient Library of Alexandria right on your phone.
And the most common use for it, apparently, is playing Fantasy Sex.
Pervert.
Some of us like cute kitties.
Oh yeah, and Russian dashboard cams too.
Simple people will be simple, as they have throught history, chained to the wall pondering on shadows. Why then is the enlightened man afraid to go back to the cave and lead them to the sunlight they will never understand they need?
Each to their own and to their measure. The enlightened amongst us have a duty to position ourselves to step in once the old orders crumble and guide the path to a better world. Or we can bitch about cat pics on a financial blog. Its our season to choose.
"When you walk the rice paper without a trace, Grasshopper..."
Just enough to buy food, gas, booze, and tobacco for a week.
Coming to the U.S.S.A. soon as the global unwind commences.
Thanks assholes! Hang the banksters already! Hang 'em high!
For pensioners...sure.
Who's paying into that thing? Besides the ECB "nobody."
Coming to Banks all across Europe....
Say 'What'!? How is this a problem for veteran ZHers?
It's not as though ZH hasn't been predicting The End, or as though we haven't been cheering, yearning and prepping for it for years (so we can finally be proven right, and finally realize the power of stacked PM, Ammo, food and supplies).
Got Buyer's Remorse, Eb?
Stay the course and STIFF the bankers and you will, in time, be dancing in the streets...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhDgpXWkFHE
In this situation, what happens if you mail a check to the gas company? Or make a PayPal payment? Or swipe a credit card? Most people don't need to take cash out of the bank that often.
Now, obviously, I understand why people want to pull their money out of the banks, etc., etc. I'm just wondering about the basic transactions most people make these days.
Because goods and services are going to continue to be exchanged. The question is how.
barter would be nice
I don't know if I'd call it "nice." A modern society instantly reverted to hunter-gatherer doesn't sound that great to me. A lot of things we take for granted actually depend on our acceptance of a medium of exchange, for better and for worse.
But it would be smart to prepare--right now--for barter situations.
You might trade a silver dime (minted 1964 or earlier) for some food for your family. I've been buying these on ebay for roughly $1.40 - $1.50 each by the roll.
An excellent idea. That's really a reversion to previous modes of exchange.
Good luck trying to redeem them for fair value. Most usa lemmings are clueless (and could care less) of the silver in pre 64 coins.
They'll have you arrested like that Ice Cream vender did a couple trying to pay using a liberty dollar.
I've actually offered a gold eagle in exchange for a DVD once at Best Buy. Wouldn't touch it. Had no idea what it was. Wouldn't even give the $50 face value. Thought it was counterfeit. Called over one of those security people. Wasn't asking for change,,, just a straight across trade.
Took a fiat twenty with a smile though while chewing her bubble gum.
Nothing dumber than a gaggle of educated Amerikan's.
That may be true during normal times. I believe the question had to do with buying goods and services when everything crashes and a dollar bill is virtually worthless.
The Troika has closed Amazon to Greece.
Because they love them.
Juncker said so.
So then this is the same as the troika's pension cut, no ?
Bankster bread lines.
I need new glasses. I read that as 'Bankster dead lines'.
Coming to a country near you.
Dip buyers out in full force this morning
240 euros?!?! Hey, ZHers in Las Vegas: What's the over/under on (1) the first Greek bank arson and (2) first dead Greek banker?
Thanks in advance,
ZH,,, Any other news out there besides Greece?
Well, Donald Trump keeps saying funny shit about Mexicans, and they keep not liking it.
They caught those two escaped murderers, and killed one of them in the process.
The Twins dropped two out of three to the Brewers in Milwaukee.
The question: Who is in control and making the decision to open 700 banks. Is it the Greek government or is it the central banking empire?
This information seems critical to understanding the nature of the Greek situation and who is really in charge. I am (not) surprised that ZH omitted it.
240 Euros? Looks like they got massive capital controls and austerity in place. Funny, how it does not look as if this will improve the debt payment issue as the Nazis insist it will.
Yes, that is a key question.
And I was serious above: Are routine consumer transactions, besides cash withdrawals, proceding as normal? Checks cleared? Credit cards processing? Direct bill-pay systems operating?
That too helps to understand. As (somebody) once said, any civilization is 3 meals away from complete chaos. If regular transactions aren't being processed, that countdown starts soon.
where did they pull that 240 euros number from ?
Is it what the greek pension average (per month) will be in drahmas equivalent to euros two years down the road ?
Wife was watich CBS news this morning as hosts exclaimed with "Suprise at how something like this could happen all of a Sudden." LMAO
" Nobody saw this coming." TM.
80% of all Greek transactions stay outside of the banking system. This is a nothing burger.
67% of those transactions involve a mask and a gun.
Of the remainder, 11% involve the words " I promise not to come in your mouth".
http://www.amazon.com/Statistics-Dummies-Deborah-J-Rumsey/dp/0470911085/...
There go the pensions. Coming to your country soon.