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The Mood On The Ground In Greece: "Some Have Raised The Prospect Of Civil War"
Earlier today, John O'Connell, CEO of Davis Rea, spoke to Canada's BNN from what may be Greece's top tourist attraction, the island of Santorini, to give a sense of the "mood on the ground." Not surprisingly, his feedback was that, at least as far as tourists are concerned, nobody is worried. After all, it is not their funds that are capital constrained plus should the Drachma return as the local currency, the purchasing power of foreigners will skyrocket.
What he did point out, however, that was quite notable is the diametrically opposing views between old and young Greeks when it comes to Grexit. According to O'Connell, "the old people want to vote for Europe cause they have a lot to lose, they have their pensions, but the younger population - they are already poor, they are already unemployed - and they don't have much to lose. Their attitude is it's going to be tough, it's already tough, and so why not just move on go back to the Drachma, and they're ok with that. Their attitude is in 5 to 10 years I'll be better off. They believe there's a lot of misinformation. They believe they're being pressured by European countries particularly Germany that are holding them to very difficult terms."
He continues: "whatever the polls may way, the young population is going to vote to leave the Euro and deal with the problems long-term."
Finally, his take on capital controls and tourism: "You are going to see a big, big drop off in tourism because people are not going to want to come here. People are going to worry that if people do come here with a lot of Euro, are they going to be allowed to leave with those Euros. It's going to have a dramatic impact on the Greek economy at some point, a lot of the people that live here are underestimating how bad it could get in the short term."
The punchline:
There have been some people that worry that the military may actually get involved. It wouldn't surprise me - there are some people in Greece that have raised the whole prospect of potential civil war.
Who would benefit the most from a Greek civil war? Why the biggest exporter of weapons in the world, of course: the United States.
So dear Greeks: please avoid Kiev-style, CIA-inspired "Maidan type" provocations. The US military industrial complex is wealthy enough without your help.
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Serfs vs bankers?
Nuland has been baking cookies again.
war does not determine who is right - only who is left http://www.philiacband.com/propaganda.html
Tsipras is Left
Henry is Right
Even when they were all smiley on the couch back in 2012 when Tsipras was still fully 2 elections away from power... Alexis Tsipras & Henry Kissinger!.wmv - YouTube
Believe it or not, gold doesn't seem like the right trade for this.
http://seekingalpha.com/article/3291335-the-next-gold-bull-market
So Bloomberg thinks that stocks bonds and currencies are King as the Euro gets set to strengthen from the impending Greek/Spanish/Portugese/Italian/and eventual German exits as the financial system finally implodes.
Interesting...
dear greek military and populace:
it is with great anguish that we observe what you are about to do to each other.
just dreadful.
so .. if you could go ahead and kindly keep it all within your own borders, that would be great.
hugs,
your friends in brussels
ps. ditto that! -angela
Go back to the drachma, tourism explodes, everyone is employed, pay for the pensions in taxes (in that currency), no need for civil war. Win! But Europe..
Put another way .........
The Greek youth have figured out the the ponzi scheme called "intergenerational solidarity" is not in their best interest
While at the same time Greek retirees are screaming hey, I paid into the Ponzi, now I demand the next generation of debt serfs pay for my retirement as well
It's hard playing musical chairs when the room and the chairs are all on fire!
OPA!
Civil War is stupid. What they gonna fight with? How they gonna pay for the weapons? With what?
Maybe a temper tantrum. I can see that because they are all in serious debt and reality is a bitch and they feel trapped.
But civil war? No leadership. Not gonna happen.
Just typical MSM point the anger AWAY from the guilty….. the banksters and politicians who invented the mess. How many of those Greek suicides took a politician or banker along for the ride? None.
Fuck Yea! Civil War! Hoorah!
NOT.
The Trees:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnC88xBPkkc
Perhaps Geddy, Alex and Neil should have formed a union and demanded equal rights.
Civil war would be a huge mistake. It would give the powers-that-be an excuse to roll in the tanks. Civil disobedience is the best option.
Civil war? Who are they going to fight, the IMF, Germany, Belgium?
Hey we can always use another war, lets make it a civil one and have the military take sides, i'll bet they choose the hard line approach.
This is mainly a generational conflict. Greek pensioners wish to hold on to the European Union, while many younger Greeks feel that they have nothing left to lose under a youth unemployment rate of +50%.
Who is supposed to fight whom? Crusade to Brussels? Pensionners against state officials? The blind against the deaf?
It's Mr. Bondy vs Mr. State pension, 15 rounds and a ko pays extra. Mr. Bondy is leveraged with the law, Mr. State is leverage with himself, this place is fooked!
D'you wear a black armband
When they shot the man
Who said, "Peace could last forever."
And in my first memories
They shot Kennedy
An' I went numb when I learned to see
So I never fell for Vietnam
We got the wall of D.C. to remind us all
That you can't trust freedom
When it's not in your hands
When everybody's fightin'
For their promised land
And
I don't need your civil war
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor
Your power hungry sellin' soldiers
In a human grocery store
Ain't that fresh
I don't need your civil war
" pay for the pensions in taxes "
This was the EU demand that Greece refused.
Pay in drachma after getting a functioning economy going. Greece does not have a functioning economy right now.
They keep shitting on it in the press, but I'd bet most Greeks would be better off with a cheap currency.
Could Greece could return to the drachma? Going back to the drachma would shock the Greek economy:
After the initial shock, the economy will keep on plunging.
After a few years, the situation may start to improve.
Eventually, Greece could face more difficulties than the austerity measures imposed by Germany.
With a gap in its finances after defaulting, the Greek government will have to act fast in order to:
Disgruntled Greeks may become violent or flee abroad. Riots and panic seem inevitable as was the case during the 2001 crisis in Argentina.
Perhaps euro failure is ineveitable. The shock now is less than 10, 20 , 100 years from now.
The only way Euro can be sustained is eventual conversion to a world fiat currency controlled by a central planner. What a wonderfull future. But even then, do you expect the entire planet population to accept a currency that steals wealth from the many and transfers to the few? It will collapse eventually. But in the meantime multiple generations of sociopathic leaders continue to manipulate.
The best slaves are the ones who are too arrogant to realize they are slaves. Haitian and Cuban indigenious population commited suicide rather than be slaves under Columbus. The NWO prefers living slaves that dont challenge authority, or even recognize the theft.
'Public services', huh? As in "Tourism may increase with the cheap drachma, but it won’t happen unless the public services are restored."
What is this thralldom to "public services?"
I live somewhere where 'public services' are probably about as little as anywhere in the nation. I don't see or hear of any problem. About the only difference is that one doesn't have to constantly check one's rearview mirror when driving.
They have VOTED that ALL that pain would be better than taking a pension cut and paying taxes........
Which they'll have to do ANYWAY iof they leave ?????
It's a LOSE/LOSE BIGGER situation.
greeks dont pay taxes, dummy.
nor should they. nor should anyone.
Greece will likely find themselves in the same boat in a few years with their own currency. The plans for a neodracma are that it will be a credit based currency run by a central bank. It would result in a short term boom as the "neodracma" falls in value relative to other currencies. Tourism would flourish.
So too would debt. In order to sell that debt, the central bank would ensure that the buyers get paid for the risk. Interest rates are what makes unpalatable risk a part of many portfolios.
For Greece to default to the ECB and/or IMF and then introduce a national credit based currency would be kicking the can down the road for a few years.
Another bullshit russia sponsored article in ZH. Greece has had as many prime ministers as years it has been independent. If one has any clue of how investing works this is the last place one would ever invest any dime, but the Europeans out of romantic notions of greatness (I have yet to see an Aristotle in today's Greece) of the past created this country and funded it from the start. The last country to miss a payment to the IMF was ZAMBIA to put things into perspective and Greece is the first country that is developed to do so. Absurd. Technically they should have always been developing, but by being developed the EU made them another favor, that is the ability to borrow at lower yields.
If Greeks vote yes and Tsipras is out, it will be the 6th government in less than 5 years, still not far from the average historical mean, but that tells you that the CIA (which has coincidentally also lost a ton of agents to this "pro-western" country) can't do anything in Greece because Greeks are on coups every year themselves.
The civil war if it starts it will be because below the veneer of byzantine orthodoxy that was used to forge the nation, the true ethnicity of Wallachians, Turks, Albanians Serbs and Bulgarians will eventually resurface, and along with it old grievances. Fallmerayer was right, but Goethe won and they created a mess that no one can solve.
You forgot to add "while everyone piles into euro denominated negative yielding debt instruments"...but, yeah...I think you hit the cover off the ball with that one...
Thanks. The article talks about the falling demand for gold Eagle's but fails to look at the global domestic demand situation in India China etc as well as foreign CB purchases.
It smells like they are attempting to stall for a little more time. I fully expect a final attack to blow out any stops that the longs may have in place prior to the inevitable and unstoppable climb in PMs when Europe implodes.
Nuland only has 6 Billion more sheep to go before her work is done
We have always been serfs.
Not many people will be willing to fight and die for bankers.
Yet they will, since they will be indoctrinated to think they are fighting for themselves and their interests.
"We've just killed the Bank President now you're next Papyrus! Signed ...THE DEPOSITORS!"
The serfs have been fighting and dying for bankers (read: the tribe) since time immemorium.
Why not? They certainly have in the past.
yeees?
no, unfortunatly this will be serf vs serf. the serfs are too stupid to know who has actually been fucking them over, so they will most likely go after each other
Expect Puutie to offer tanks and troops to insure the seuriy o Greece as he has done in Crimea.
The tanks will be camoflaged to appear as Trojan horses. The serfs will be the same as the Russian conscripts who die in Ukraine.
Once fully enrolled communist country, Puutie will use any opportunity to return to the full 1950's cold war situaton he desires.
youre an idiot-how did you ever graduate from High School?
EZ. high skewl is just a means to an end.
Augustus, do you believe all of the BS that the mainstream media feeds to you? Or just the bs about Ukraine and Russia? Next you're going to tell us that Nuland is an emissary of peace and hope.
Blowgustus is paid by the word
one potato, two potato, three potato, four
Only a moron would compare Greece and Crimea.
Oh, it's you, Augustus.
FSA vs FSA
BEWARE OF NULAND & GLOBALISTS.
BEWARE OF MAIDAN II
spock would be really pissed because now the needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many by a shit fuckibg ton
Closing the Banks and the Athens Stock Exchnge was part of a fiendish CIA plot?
Well...if I were advising PM Tsyprus right now...indeed..."now might be the time to play the CIA card...
Juncker has sent another final panicked proposal to Tsipras 20 minutes ago in the middle of the night, saying "Europe is Greece and Greece is Europe". At least he's right about that.
Sources in Athens say it's a nonstarter as acceptance would oblige Tsipras to campaign for a yes vote in the referendum.
The r-word is kryptonite to the Eurocrats; no telling what they will try to avoid or undo it.
I hate to say it and I'm certainly not pushing for it, but it would be an ideal time for Turkey to invade.
but they are far more likely to have a Ukranian future.
Hairy vs Not So Hairy.
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Don't the serfs understand that they outnumber the banksters?
Indeed so, californiagirl.
HOWEVER, there is this:
As attributed to Jay Gould: "I can hire one half of the working class to kill the other half." And, I repeat this quote about the overall situation that Greece, and the rest of world, faces due to the currently existing systems of DEBT SLAVERY:
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/silent_weapons_quiet_wars.htm
Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars
"Energy is recognized as the key to all activity on earth. Natural science is the study of the sources and control of natural energy, and social science, theoretically expressed as economics, is the study of the sources and control of social energy. Both are bookkeeping systems: mathematics. Therefore, mathematics is the primary energy science. And the bookkeeper can be king if the public can be kept ignorant of the methodology of the bookkeeping. ... In this structure, credit, presented as a pure element called "currency," has the appearance of capital, but is in effect negative capital. Hence, it has the appearance of service, but is in fact, indebtedness or debt. ... if balanced in no other way, will be balanced by the negation of population (war, genocide)... They must eventually resort to war to balance the account, because war ultimately is merely the act of destroying the creditor ... War is therefore the balancing of the system by killing the true creditors (the public ...)"
... Some of the younger people may intuitively understand that the younger you are, the more you are being lied to, cheated and robbed by the political system of DEBT SLAVERY that you were born into ... I have no objective ways to assess exactly where the dividing lines may be regarding who benefited from the DEBT SLAVERY, versus who got screwed. However, there seems to be no reasonable doubt that amongst some group of younger and poorer people, they have nothing left to lose from some sort of "revolution," because they are being set up to be mass murdered anyway.
Tragically, these days being able to mass murder people fits inside of the factual observations made about that situation, as featured in this little video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkCEOSgLRt4
Zbigniew Brzezinski: It Is Infinitely Easier to Kill a Million People than it is to Control ThemThe currently established systems are DEBT SLAVERY BACKED BY WARS BASED ON DECEITS, which have necessarily driven there to be debt insanities, which are going to provoke death insanities, because the real situation was always that the debt controls depended upon the death controls. Therefore, in one way or another, sooner or later, I would expect the Greek military to get involved, although I no longer believe that they would be able to resolve the deeper problems, because Greece is merely a symbolic leading edge of much deeper and bigger problems, which the human species is encountering ... Overall, we are now inside of a civilization that has become based on runaway, psychotic, criminal insanities, due to our political economy having been based upon ENFORCING FRAUDS, which are paradoxically headed towards final failure from too much success based on ENFORCING FRAUDS.
P.S.
I repeated and repackaged some of my typical bla, bla, blah, on those topics, which are relevant to the overall consideration that the young and poor increasingly outnumber the old and rich, but that may not matter:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-29/greece-democracy-and-magical-thinking
Greece, Democracy, And Magical Thinking
Hay Rad, I was just reading your comments on that UK 2040 thread. ( I see tweedle dee and tweedle dumb chimed in LOL. )
Awesome! I'll be carrying that with me to Toronto July 9-10-11 ; )
RUSH was enjoyed by all five generations, thanks again for the heads up : )
Hey if Greece Exist the EU and NATO, then . . .
NATO can attack Greece! No longer any need for the IMF . . . .
Countries "Friends of Libya" - recently was bombed Libya.
Countries "Friends of Syria" right now bombed Syria.
Countries "friends of Greece" in the near future will bomb Greece.
You can not break the best, and democratic traditions.
So countries 'Friends of Israel' in the near future will bomb Israel?
Well that is either the exception to your rule, or .... not
Generational. Parasite boomers vs X and Y.
You can never have a young vs old civil war - the young will not put down their smartphones and social media long enough to fight!
THere's an app for that
"Their attitude is in 5 to 10 years I'll be better off"
That is the correct response.
If they work for it.
Take away the (false) safety net and watch how few of them fall after that. Most people I've met do their best work with a gun to their head. They'll find a way to not only survive but prosper. I don't care if they end up doing nothing but tourism and yogurt. They'll end up being great at both.
I have great faith in the people of Greece. It's the government that's their problem.
Please add organized crime to your list of problems in Greece.
Organised Crime ?
Well, he DID say that the Government was the central problem facing Greek people.
Amen NoDebt... +1000!
Isn't that the way you'd want young people to be thinking? Don't they get hammered for supposedly thinking only of the present and the next bauble (bought on credit, of course)?
Interesting to see how a "no" vote and the way that would mean going through the hard times to come out better later is being portrayed as "irresponsible," "Free Shit Army," "Socialism (running out of other people's money to spend)," etc.
When I was a kid the people telling me to take my medicine, suck it up, and think for the future were the "Conservatives." My, how things have changed. I listened to them, only bought what I could pay cash for, deferred gratification, and now I'm some kind of raving America-hating Commie Socialist Fascist, I guess.
Good for the Greek Youth. I hope they aren't crushed before they can come out on the good side of this.
"Isn't that the way you'd want young people to be thinking?"
Yes, absolutely. It's about goddammed time.
Looks like the creditors committee has got some boots on the ground. Taking Gen. Wilbur Ross orders today and threatening bloodshed if their is a "no" vote. Insane.
Kill your parents! Kill your children! For Greece!
Oedipus was Greek after all
Boy howdy! That dude was a serious motherfucker!
As opposed to USSA, where the young fight, bleed and die for praise and trinkets (aka medals), so that old guys can have cheap gas, cheap resources, cheap labor (from serfs), cheap produce, cheap stuff and endless National Deficit Financing -- year after year, decade after decade.
Thanks, offshore Serfs. Thanks, CIA, NSA, DOD, Fed, JPM and GS.
Is this a great country, or what?
Old vs. Young
That is ALWAYS the conflict
The older psychoclass ALWAYS reacts negatively to freedom
You fetuses, always absorbing nutrients through the umbilical chord, entitled, expectant, dependant. Always wanting your freedom to do as you please no matter how much it hurts, kicking, causing a fuss. You are all heartburn and nausea I tell you!
I do not see it...the Greek miltiary is heald in very high regard, national service is still required for all males.....I agree with the premise vis a vie "old vs. young" but the military will not intervene in a legit government....especially one that has called for a national referundum....
BTW, the biggest exporter of weapons to Greece is Germany, not the USA....there is plenty of real fear to export...you dont have to make it up
There are still plenty of Greeks who remember the Fascist military junta of 1967-1974. That's really where the ongoing Greek fiscal disaster started, or at least, the Colonels sure as hell didn't improve anything.
That is the nature of any operation run by anyone above captain.
Syriza are not a legitimate government. They are communists, committed to expropriating and enslaving the Grerk people while their leaders live like demigods. Overthrowing them is the army of the Hellenic Republic's patriotic duty.
What I want to know is why they didn't act before the election. They saved their country in 1967 before Andreas Papandreou could lay a finger on it.
IDIOT> its becuase all soldiers are now sick of the bankers running things, you ignorant slob
What bankers? Greece is a welfare state, and they're reaping what their society sowed.
Greece is a welfare state, and they're reaping what their society sowed?
This Greek authorities are ready to throw dollars from a helicopter?
Or is it in the United States to exit from the crisis need to impose a state of severe economy?
The crisis has the same everywhere, but the recipes the treatment of the crisis in the US and the EU are different, is not it? LOL
lol this keeps getting better.
300 point down day on the dow ain't good enough though. I want 700+. Then I will stop and get out the popcorn
It's only Monday. I think you'll have your 700+ by Wednesday or Thursday.
I'll raise you 12,000 down.
Wonder what color they have chosen for Greece's revolution?
80% want blue, but 85% want yellow.
It will be the Violet Revolution
Greece's national flower is the violet.
Victoria "the bulldog bitch" Nuland is getting the violet pins, buttons and sew-on patches ready as we speak...
Instead of cookies Icky Vicky Noodleman will be handing out baklava to the fascist snipers
2% want a rainbow flag.
NOW you guys are finally starting to discuss how things will REALLY get fixed! If no war is actually fought, at least people start paying attention.
Technically, we can solve this without firing a shot. If they place a restriction on guns. The politicians of American are dead men/women/queers walking.
It will happen so quick, the US traitors will never see it coming.
Not sure that I understand what you're saying.
TPP bans or severely restricts access to purchase ammunition
Buying bullets will be a new illegal commodity like meth or heroin
Black leather like the uniform that every one of those fuckers wear in the US.
Grecian civil war? Horse shit! Nice way to catch some eyeballs, Tyler. I expect these kinds of sensational headlines from the likes of MarketWatch. I guess a headline of young greeks vs. old greeks wouldn't have the same sizzle as one that has civil war in the title.
If it bleeds it leads
That dude looks like Dr. Bunsen Honeydew, Ph.D.
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2012/03/scientifically-yours.html
A civil war to be fought with sticks and stones, for sure. If Greece really is as broke as they claim, they'll be out of ammo in days, and bartering their useless guns for food.
They might fire a few shots, soon followed by an outbreak of Ouzo
oh no, the MIC will step right up and lend both sides the money for the weapons.
...also known as the W.T. Grant strategy.
The banksters are watching and being amused. It's entertainment for them.
Rather than going after each other they need to concentrate on the bankers that allowed them to get into the Euro and live beyond their means.
The rumor needs to be spread that the security details for all of the EU elite and bankers have been infiltrated and at the given time, assassinations will be carried out en masse. Might as well make these fuckers start looking over their shoulders.
You keep what you kill...
Sincerely... the Necromongers
So Goldman Sachs lied to get Greece in the Euro so Goldman Sachs could then extend trillions in now worthless euros in credit to a now bankrupt Europe?
I don't know...something about that plan sounds kinda...fishy...
Hoplites Vs. Spartans?
A real revolution would be a complete default on all debts. Or it wouldnt really be a real revolution but simply a coup. No?
Hillary can use her offline email Clinton Foundation magic to arm Greek rebels to force IMF payment.
Civil war? If you mean a coup d'etat, bring it on. Syriza, like all communists, won't be persuaded by anything but lethal force, and those self-styled revolutionaries won't stand a chance against a real army determined to save their country.
My question is why the army didn't act before power fell into Syriza's hands, not after. That's how they saved Greece from the communists in 1967---a pre-emptive strike.
Club of Rome drafted a elaborate manifesto. We have turned on the fan blowing shit in their face.
:)
Many of the same questions being asked there will be asked here.
Will we be saved or suffer the same fate? It looks like we will suffer.
Look for the Russians to come to the aid of the Greeks as waning social mood across Europe keeps Greece's creditors from accepting default graciously...
http://www.globaldeflationnews.com/the-end-of-the-line-for-global-deflat...
What destroyed the Greek economy?
Giving too much control to outsiders of their own destiny. That can happen from borrowing their money or joining their union.
Each of us should strive to have as much control locally where you have a shot at controlling it.
The US is on the same path. Fifty states have lost their own control to a group of 9 that are not elected and cannot be removed.
We are headed to the same end result as Greece, and we are taking a different rout to get there.
Macedonian war of reunification.
Please not again: Victorious Nuland, this time in Athens with Baklava for the paid protesters, McCain on the streets provoking the protestors with "I am with you, the Amerikan people are with you", followed by western paid mercenary sniper killings of enough street people to convince the world that Syriza has lost control, forcing Tsipras and Varoufakis to flee to Russia, and clearing the stage for the establishment of the latest troika-arranged pro-perpetual-debt, pro-austerity puppet regime.
Or go ahead and try it again, and see if you can pull it off this time, only without consequences...
Does Greece have any chocolates tycoons rready to step up to the plate?
You can bet the Langley boyz are chomping at the bit to stir up trouble in Greece. It's what they do these days.
Fascinating insights on why the US & EU are pulling out all stops to ensure that the Greek government falls:
http://thesaker.is/eastring-vs-balkan-stream-the-battle-for-greece/
http://orientalreview.org/2015/05/18/new-strategic-calculus-for-the-balk...
http://orientalreview.org/2015/05/18/new-strategic-calculus-for-the-balk...
This one's for all the marbles, folks.
Won't be the first time there was a war because of bankers. How come they never get shot at?
Civil war would be sad but I don't care as long as the Greeks are allowed to decide their own fate. Even if they are lazy commies and cheat on their taxes.
My friend and I have this conversation nearly ever week. After 2008 and Obama and Tiny Tim GeithneR fellatingthe banksters in response...
Why isn't there a car bomb a week on Wall Street?
The sad part about any war is that the sociopathic banksters finance them, and win no matter what. It's the innocents whose blood gets spilled everywhere. That's why they call it The Great RED Dragon. And the military won't go after the banksters because they want to get paid. Vicious, isn't it.
Civil War? The EU will have to form an EU Army to save the Greeks. Then charge the Greeks back for the costs - bankers to float FLEECE GREECE bonds!
When US smoking ban took place, I quit dining out. There are still places that are grandfathered. I don't give a fuck about going to a restaurant. My wife and I can make a better meal to eat. You fucked up your clientele patron. Are your going to attract marijannia smoking sections to drive new traffic?
FUCK OFF, and die...
I agree with your sentiments. The cultural toilet millennials would serve us all better as cord wood. Now, I must show how much I love Big Brother:
And you probably believe that 5,000 years of heterosexual unions/marriage is anything but bigotry and hatred and deny anthropological induced global warming. Careful, we're getting close to apprehensions for crime-thought.
We've been laughting about thought crime for years. Its arrived.
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I really have strayed from the Body. I totally blocked out my duty to self report. I'll even put the cage over my head myself if I can only regain the love of Big Brother.
I tolerate mounds and mounds of bullcrap on this site to finally arrive at a day when this shit-tard place pays off a bit.
Now I wait for the fucking signal to BTFD
The only way you can pretend to BTFD is at NIRP. Your still going to be a broke fuck who has no idea about money. Go for it, tell your friends, family, and office worker's.
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/purchasingpower.asp
I won't give you the formula, want to watch you burn within your social circle of advice. Carry on.
I won't wait for your signal ATOM. I will wait for forty-seven more Tyler blog entiries on the same fucking topic. Then I push it all back in.
Bah, Greece goes through a mini civil war about every 40 years and the military takes over. My mother was there in the early 70s at the time they were having their last mini civil war and she told me all about it. If things go really out of control the military WILL take over, problem solved. It's history, anyone can look it up.
It may come to that. The Army has the ability to restore order, organize water and food and set up shelter. They also have a lot of gunz.
Hopefully they can stay in the barracks.
"Some are saying ...." civil war .... and the military MIGHT get involved .... that's usually the way it works !
Greece borrowed $1Billion USD from IMF to buy 100 M1A tanks from the US some months ago. Civil War? IMF's got Greek Military by tne balls.
Some have raised the prospect of instigating civil war in Greece: That's right, ones like Go'Bomb'em, Valerie Jarette, Victorious Nuland, InSane McCain, and Lindsey Graham.
Email these jerks and tell 'em what the mood is on the ground in the U.S.of A.
You know how in the movies, the elderly sacrifice themselves to allow the children to live another day?
I guess that's why it's the movies and not reality.
Truly sad.
Dear angry Greeks,
Remember who the true enemy is.
Regards,
Everyone else
Themselves
It is so good.. to see you all ... nice one month a zerohedge. was on parole... now back to my cell... you don't know how it feels there .... freedom......
Good Bye.
Anyone who knows anything about Greece, knows that "civil war" is next to the jedi coming back, and perpetual motion.
"Civil war? Why would you have a Civil War if the banksters are fucking you over? Seems to me you'd go after those who are fucking you over.
Exactly. It would be the criminal banksters paid henchmen against the people. Nothing to do with any civil war.
The problem is that the older people are #1 - accustomed to living in the world the way it was, and their hope that world will someday come back is mostly what keeps them going, #2 they are probably still getting most of their information from 'approved' channels. They're not as likely to scour the Internet evaluating different points of view, like those you find here.
Young people have a future they'd like to look forward to. They're not tied to mistakes of past generations of politicians, because they weren't responsible for voting them in, or for approving the unwise decisions they made. But most importantly, not all of them, but enough of them, have had the Internet as a constanct presence in their virtual lives and economic pain as a constant presence in their day to day lives. The ones who inform themselves about current issues from sources way outside the major networks and newspapers are better informed than any previous generation about what's really going on.
So the two groups are not likely to see things the same way.
The plight of the older Greeks and the politicians running this shit show remind me of that quote from "Tinanic:" "26 years of experience working against him. He figures anything big enough to sink the ship they're gonna see in time to turn. The ship's too big with too small a rudder. It doesn't corner worth a damn. Everything he knows is wrong."
Depends on the definition of who "you" is. That you mention
I joined this site because I looked for insider inpute, and I found it all the time, but now all I read is just fucking worthless shit posted by people with too much time on their hands! It's a shame.
SH
some love to hate on jews, blacks, bankers ... blah, blah, blah
A lot of these losers need to shut the fuck up so the real info isn't lost in 857 hate-tard posts in one thread