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Paul Craig Roberts Rages: Truth Is Now A Crime Against The State
Authored by Paul Craig Roberts,
The entire Western edifice rests on lies. There is no other foundation. Just lies.
This makes truth an enemy. Enemies have to be suppressed, and thus truth has to be suppressed.
Truth comes from foreign news sources, such as RT, and from Internet sites, such as this one.
Thus, Washington and its vassals are busy at work closing down independent media.
Washington and its vassals have redefined propaganda. Truth is propaganda if it is told by countries, such as Russia and China, that have independent foreign policies.
Propaganda is truth if told by Washington and its puppets, such as the EU Observer.
The EU Observer, little doubt following Washington’s orders, has denounced RT and Sputnik News for “broadcasting fabrications and hate speech from their bureaus in European Union cities.”
Often I appear on both RT and Sputnik. In my opinion both are too restrained in their reporting, fearful, of course, of being shut down, than full truth requires. I have never heard a word of hate speech or propaganda on either. Washington’s propaganda, perhaps, but not the Russian government’s.
In other words, the way Washington has the news world rigged, not even independent news sites can speak completely clearly.
The Western presstitutes have succeeded in creating a false reality for insouciant Americans and also for much of the European Union population.
A sizable percentage of these insouciant peoples believe that Russia invaded Ukranine and that Russia is threatening to invade the Baltic States and Poland. This belief exists despite all intelligence of all Western governments reporting that there is no sign of any Russian forces that would be required for invasion.
The “Russian invasion,” like “Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction and al Qaeda connections,” like “Assad of Syria’s use of chemical weapons against his own people,” like “Iranian nukes,” never existed but nevertheless became the reality in the Western media. The insouciant Western peoples believe in non-existent occurrencies.
In other words, just to state the obvious noncontroversial fact, the Western “news” media is a propaganda ministry from which no truth emerges.
Thus, the Western World is ruled by propaganda. Truth is excluded. Fox “news,” CNN, the NY Times, Washington Post, and all the rest of the most accomplished liars in world history, repeat constantly the same lies. For Washington, of course, and the military/security complex.
War is the only possible outcome of propaganda in behalf of war. When the irresponsible Western media brings Armageddon to you, you can thank the New York Times and the rest of the presstitutes for the destruction of yourself and all your hopes for yourself and your children.
EU Bashes “Russian Propaganda”
Western major media march to the same drummer – dutifully regurgitating managed news misinformation garbage, willfully burying hard truths on issues mattering most.
Alternative sources beholden to truth and full disclosure operate by different standards – engendering ire among Western nations wanting their high crimes suppressed – bashing sources revealing them.
The EU Observer (EUO) claims independent credentials while supporting policies responsible news sources denounce.
Independently reporting hard truths isn’t its long suit. Its editor, Lisbeth Kirk, is the wife of former Danish European Parliament member Jens-Peter Bonde. Human Rights Watch’s European and Central Asian advocacy director Veronika Szente Goldston calls its journalists “the most in-your-face in Brussels.”
EUO irresponsibly bashed Russia’s Sputnik News and RT International – two reputable sources for news, information and analysis – polar opposite Western media propaganda.
It shamelessly called their reporting valued by growing millions “broadcasting fabrications and hate speech from their bureaus in EU cities.”
It touted plans by EU officials to counter what they called “use and misuse of communications tools…play(ing) an important role in the dramatic political, economic and security-related developments (in) Eastern (European countries) over the past 18 months.”
It drafted a nine-page “action plan” intended to convey “positive” messages. It’ll increase funding to blast out Europe’s view of things more effectively.
It wants EU policies promoted in former Russian republics the old-fashioned way – by repeating Big Lies often enough until most people believe them.
A new EU foreign service cell called East StratComTeam operating by September will run things – functioning as a European ministry of propaganda.
It’ll “develop dedicated communication material on priority issues…put at the disposal of the EU’s political leadership, press services, EU delegations and EU member states.”
Material circulated in Russia and other EU countries aims to let news consumers “easily understand that political and economic reforms promoted by the EU can, over time, have a positive impact on their daily lives” – even though precisely the opposite is true.
It wants so-called benefits Europeans enjoy explained to people continent-wide. Will millions of unemployed, underemployed and impoverished people buy what’s plainly untrue from their own experience?
Sputnik News, RT, US independent sources like the Progressive Radio Network and numerous others steadily gain audience strength at the expense of scoundrel media people abandon for good reason.
Growing numbers want truth and full disclosure on things affecting their lives and welfare. Politicians in Western countries want ordinary people treated like mushrooms – well-watered and in the dark.
RT’s editor-in-chief Margarita Simonyan said “the European Union is diligently trying to stifle the alternative voice of RT, at a time when in Europe there are hundreds of newspapers, television channels and radio stations, which set out only one point of view on what is happening in the world.”
The BBC is Fox News with an English accent. US so-called public radio and broadcasting are no different – telling listeners and viewers everything except what they most need to know.
Simonyan explained “Britain (has) an entire army brigade of 1,500 men…whose tasks include the fight against Russia on social networks. NATO has a task force aimed at countering Russian influence throughout the world.”
“Only recently, Deutsche Welle launched a 24-hour television channel in English to counter RT. At the same time, nearly all the major Western media, including the BBC, DW and Euronews have long disseminated their information in the Russian language, while Radio Liberty, funded directly by the US government, broadcasts in Russian.”
“(I)f after all this, the EU still complains that they are losing the ‘information war’ against Russia, perhaps it’s time to realize that” growing numbers of people are fed up with being lied to.
People want reliable sources of news, information and analysis unavailable through mainstream Western sources using propagandists masquerading as journalists.
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rt is eastern propaganda everything else is western propaganda... what's nice about the internet is that you can sometimes get just the facts and decide for youself what side of the story you want to be on. this will soon become a thing of the past
in wartime, truth is so precious that she should always be attended by a bodyguard of lies http://www.philiacband.com/propaganda.html
The first casualty of war is truth
The Truth is Subjective as it's always been. Only the winner get's to write history.
That attitude will be responsible for the total collapse of civilization and nobody wins.
Perception is not truth.
"Truth is treason in an empire of lies" -- George Orwell
Truth is a whore you can buy w a few fake gold coins,
Your truth is my lie, and my lie is your truth. The only thing that matters is who wins and becomes the master.
Was Hitler a Hero or a Monster? Depends on who you ask. Its called a Paradox. Like: Each one of us is a special snowflake like no other in the World. Yet .. each one of us is so insignificant, none of us will be remembered in 100 years, much less 100,000,000 years. Both are True, yet Opposite. That said, Paul Craig Roberts nails it.
If you asked ten people, "What's the square root of 64?" and you got ten different responses you'd have to be an idiot to think they were ten true answers.
The right of the individual to not be invaded, enslaved, gassed or otherwise killed or mutilated is natural and absolute. Therefore Hitler was a monster. End of story.
Paul Craig Roberts once had sex with my mother. I'll never forgive him. Bastard.
"The End is Nigh"
The problem now is TPTB are not hiding their lies...
More and more the LIEs are "In your face". My gut tells me, TPTB believe they are getting close?
September for some reason has a strange pull on me.
Cheers, Brothers
Truth is a whore you can buy w a few fake gold coins,
Truth is a whore you can buy with paper gold promises. There, fixed for you.
The west claims to support "freedom of the press". That means all perspectives are put out there (true and untrue), and people make up their minds which make more sense and act accordingly.
The problem they are having is that increasing numbers of people are deciding that what the Russian sources are saying is closer to the truth than what the western sources are saying. RT is one source. The western press has dozens. But no matter how many ways, and in how many voices they repeat their stories, people don't believe them.
When a power structure is forced to attempt to discredit explicitly those telling a compelling story, they are in trouble. If their story were compelling, they wouldn't need to attack the opposing messengers. The USSR had the same problem. Their news sources were clearly lying, and their own people learned to mock them. Now the same thing is happening in western media.
Truth is compelling. Trying to fight it only makes TPTB appear shrill. That will make even more open their eyes to their lies. The Europeans are more awake than we in the US, but even in the US, TPTB are losing control of "the story".
There will be a time maybe not now where there will be masses flocking to ZH to learn the truth. Good luck to ya
Hitler was a Hero to many who suffered horribly under the Russian Bolshviks and Joe Stalin, but that would require more than a knee jerk reaction to the propaganda that was shoved down your throat all your life - which is precisely PCR's point. In case you're still confused, Ill give you another hint : this isn't a math quesiton.
So if some people like a criminal he's not a criminal?
Correct Billy. The answer is 8. Any other answer is incorrect. 2+2 will never equal 5 regardless of the fact that Winston eventually came to that conslusion.
The fact that on the day of September 11, 2001 the then mayor of New York City stated live on air on the radio that they decided "to pull [it}" refering to WTC 7 is also something that one might get different answers from but in fact any other answer than he actually stated those words is false because I heard the man say it that afternoon, live on my personal radio.
Interpretations of said event can be discussed but denial of it is ignoring the truth at best.
Hitler violated the individuals as stated and regardless of what anyone thinks of his economic policies or any other actions, that trumps them all. Definitive monster.
FDR lied and scammed iway into WWII, inprisoned innocent Japanese Americans, and began the process that led to the atom bomb, which Truman then used to incinerate hundreds of thousands of otherwise innocent Japanese, women, and children.
There are those that hold these two men as heroes. The facts-those transgressions-hold otherwise.
The "pull it" remark came from Larry Silverstein not the mayor. Watch those facts.
It came from Giuliani as I remember hearing it on the radio that day also. Silverstein may have ordered it but it was Giuliani who announced it.
You can choose to be uninformed or misinformed.
Media outlets also have agendas.
Eastern Block collapse story revived in the form of Western Block collapse story.
Tom is correct. A=A. It is what it is.
TO THOSE WHO JUNKED MY POST....
THIS BEARS REPEATING.
TO THOSE OF YOU WHO CELEBRATE DISHONESTY YOU SHALL REAP WHAT YOU SOW.
The problem with the current paradigm is that it values image over that of substance.
In this current paradigm appearance is everything whereas the value of TRUTH is dismissed.
PERCEPTION over reality is what is valued by far too many...including you.
Well that is DENIAL OF REALITY at best and downright DELUSIONAL INSANITY at worst.
But unfortunatly for you the CONSEQUENCES of the reality will not be able to be denied.
And your faith in that which you propose, the delusion to which you choose to perceive, will encounter the reality. But reality will always win that battle.
Thus you will suffer most when faced with reality of the lack headed your way.
You can delay the consequences of reality for awhile...at great expense.
An Aircraft may fly but it naturally is attracted toward the center of the Earth. Of course at the great expense of fuel it can remain airborne, for days, for weeks, and even, quite possibly, for years if Tanker Aircraft continue to refuel that aircraft.
But that aircraft will come back down to the Earth, controlled, or uncontrolled, it will return to the surface of the Earth.
And WHEN it runs out of fuel, it will crash.
The IMAGE of the flying aircraft does not matter when the plane runs out of PHYSICAL FUEL.
The PERCEPTION of the flying aircraft does not matter when the plane runs out of the PHYSICAL FUEL.
The APPEARANCE that the plane is flying does not matter when it runs out of PHYSICAL FUEL.
The DENIAL that the plane is going to crash does not matter when the plane runs out of PHYSICAL FUEL.
In fact banking on THE IMAGE, THE PERCEPTION, THE APPEARANCE, and THE DENIAL all have GUARANTEED THAT THE PLANE WILL CRASH instead of landing safely. They are CONTRIBUTING FACTORS.
If there was not reliance upon the IMAGE...
If there was not reliance upon the PERCEPTION...
If there was not reliance upon the APPEARANCE...
If there was NO DENIAL...
THEN maybe the pilots who were screaming, "THIS JET IS LOW ON FUEL!!!", may have been able to bring it in for a safe landing.
But BECAUSE of the reliance upon IMAGE, PERCEPTION and APPEARANCE, BECAUSE OF THE UNABASHED DENIAL...THAT JET IS DOOMED. So are YOU.
It is LIKEWISE with WORLD FINANCES...
The Game is over. It cannot be continued.
World Resources are DEPLETED.
World PRODUCTION is ANEMIC and WANING at best.
Creating Currency where there is no production behind it DOES NOT CREATE WEALTH.
It CREATES INDEBTEDNESS.
You have screwed it all up. And in your CONFUSION you seek to justify the insanity of it?
It is not a problem anymore. It is a PREDICAMENT.
And the PREDICAMENT which we are facing has only an OUTCOME, COLLAPSE, A CRASH, with the consequences being DISMAL AT BEST and FATAL AT WORST.
And since you are in abject DENIAL OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES your PROGNOSIS IS TERMINAL unless YOU WAKE UP.
And I do not believe that you get that...at all
Too chickenshit to respond, junker?
What? You cannot adequately formulate a challenge to my premises?
Too low voltage?
Or just too much of a corrupted FRAUD?
TT, I'm not your junker. I mostly agree with what you are saying. Truth is important. Strangely enough, its even healthy. I just want to say don't get so hung up on objective reality. People do perveive the illusion differently. The best thing to do is have good intentions and consider every waking moment a learning opportunity. Having a high regard for truth is an aspect of having good intentions.
You're saying good stuff.
Those who have perceptions that are aligned with reality stand with a better chance of survival than those whom are unaligned and delusional.
Actually in the long run the truth will become necessary for survival.
TT. Check this out http://in5d.com/5-thought-provoking-quantum-experiments-showing-that-rea...
Drop this excellent post on the overly-annoying "optimists" in your life and watch their eyes glaze.
Sorry Genius, The truth is immutable! Only Perception and interpretation of the truth is relative or as you say subjective. If you doubt it get into your car and drive at 100 mph into a brick wall and keep saying to yourself it is not there. Let me know how it turns out.
The Anunnaki created humans as a slave race and you are a fine example.
So you believe that the physical world which we can all see and hear and touch is just an illusion but your insane fantasy about aliens is a rock solid fact? That's just weird, dude.
and, Moors are niggers....
Its a fact...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcZCGMCDzbU
no way this movie gets made anymore
JoseJimenez, your wave function collapse is not necessarily, in fact probably not exactly my wave function collapse. But yes, from my perspective, the media is full of Quisling criminals.
Best article yet from PCR. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
PubCuss be totally confused.
Truth is not subjective. It is, by definition, objective.
The would be interpreters of truth, however, are subjective.
Subjectivism persists for because it is not questioned by its practitioners.
The first casualty of ZWO occupation is the truth.
Mr. Roberts, as long as you maintain and never question the physical verification of the commercial plane crashes on 9-11, you can write about any type of unnamed "lie" that you wish. Just never ever ever ever ever question the plane debris verification from any of the 4 commercial planes on 9-11.
Talk about any horrific questionable crime and propoganda from anytime and anywhere......just NEVER NEVER NEVER EVER NEVER EVER question the physical verification of any of the supposed plane debris from any of the supposed sights from any of the locations on 9-11.
9-11 "truth" is the key to everything. It helped me find my skate key and it cured my dermatitis.
i've been fed so much official bullshit in my lifetime i no longer believe a word of govermental news. kennedy assasination, vietnam war, 9-11, iraq. etc,etc,etc.
just leave me the fuck alone
You'd have to be even crazier than a "truther" to believe government. Nevertheless....
So they have succeeded?
(At times they will slip some truth into their lies upon lies so that you reject that truth also.)
PCR has written and spoken extensively about the lies of the official 9/11 narrative.
What the fuck do you think you're talking about? Secondly, do you think?
Roberts speaking with James Corbett on the 10th anniverasary of 9/11:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBOMSj0uNmw&annotation_id=annotation_878...
Edit: Now I check and see you've been at ZH all of 24 weeks. Troll, or just ignorant?
Good points, Ignatius!
OK, he got that wrong. But his general point is valid. Anyone who accepts unquestioningly the government line on 9/11 has no credibility whatsoever when it comes to "truth". And anyone who continues to accept it after exposure to the evidence of what a pack of bullshit it is, has no credibility on ANY matter, as far as I'm concerned. They have no brain.
It's a long way from unquestioningly accepting the government line to dumbing it down to ridiculous black-or-white questions without ever using Occam's Razor.
Just sayin.
Turd Furgeson denies 9/11 was an insider.
RIPS
That might be Turd's real purpose in life. You never know.
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Former Chief Economist under President Bush, Morgan Reynolds
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http://www.wanttoknow.info/050908insidejob911
Paul Craig Roberts, Assistant Sect. of Treasury under Pres. Reagan
http://www.lasvegastribune.com/20050729/headline3.html - Las Vegas Tribune's July 29, 2005 article on Roberts
Roberts said he hasn't changed his political ideology or jumped from the Republican-conservative ship but "just can't respect a party leadership who doesn't respect the truth." "I guess the real story about 9/11 is about what the people are actually saying. I've gotten hundreds of emails in response to my columns and many of them talk about not getting the truth from the government or the media about what really happened at the World Trade Center. I know many qualified engineers and scientists have said the WTC collapsed from explosives. In fact, if you look at the manner in which it fell, you have to give their conclusions credibility."
NOT ONE of these individuals or groups listed above have EVER questioned the physical verification of the suppposed plane debris from anywhere on 9-11. NOT ONE.
"Inside Job" is a phrase created by the US military and government to get you to never understand or accpet anything. All actions of gov and Military are "inside". You expose nothing. And thats the point. They will do everything they can to redirect and mislead however they can. As long as you NEVER question the planes of 9-11.
(Most supposed truth groups will have you kicked out for even suggesting there were no commercial plane crashes on 9-11. They are apart of the deception and control.)
Roberts has NEVER questioned the physical plane debris verification. There is only one lie. Simply verify the supposed plane debris, you know, the ones with the terrorists on them? Once you find there is NOT ONE single piece you will begin to process the size and depth of the lies. Once exposed it will expose all the worlds governments lies.
Like your "time period" exclusionary tactic. Trolls will always find a way to exclude or discount someones opinion.
The "truth movement" people like Roberts were chosen before 9-11 occured. The US has done this for decades. They learned it from Germany.
Look deeper into James Corbett. I did.
http://blog.banditobooks.com/corbett-flat-out-busted/
Gotta be VERY vigilant with whom you trust to deliver information.
Obviously the gov.trolls got assigned in massive numbers to fight the truth others reveal on 0H & co. ... good signs - signs of the comming end, u'll not enjoy your salary for long suckers ... read my words.
9/11 After 13 years | Paul Craig Roberts
September 10, 2014 |
The tragedy of September 11, 2001, goes far beyond the deaths of those who died in the towers and the deaths of firefighters and first responders who succumbed to illnesses caused by inhalation of toxic dust. For thirteen years a new generation of Americans has been born into the 9/11 myth that has been used to create the American warfare/police state.
The corrupt Bush and Obama regimes used 9/11 to kill, maim, dispossess and displace millions of Muslims in seven countries, none of whom had anything whatsoever to do with 9/11.
A generation of Americans has been born into distain and distrust of Muslims.
A generation of Americans has been born into a police state in which privacy and constitutional protections no longer exist.
A generation of Americans has been born into continuous warfare while needs of citizens go unmet.
A generation of Americans has been born into a society in which truth is replaced with the endless repetition of falsehoods. . . .
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/09/10/911-13-years-paul-craig-roberts/
The immutable laws of physics prove that WTC7 was a controlled demolition beyond any shadow of a doubt. Everyone who hasn't should look into it. Start with Architects and Engineers for 911 truth.
911 was the PNAC New Pearl Harbor[see the Project for the New American Century page 51]. The purpose was to galvanize the USA cattle and manufacture the consent for the invasion and destruction of seven middle eastern countries. These PNAC revulutionary neocon wars were planned in advance, and lacked only the necessary catalyst to manufacture political consent.
General Wesley Clark: Wars Were Planned - Seven Countries in five years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw
NOT ONCE has this person questioned the plane debris verifiaction of 9-11. PCR is a conspirator to mass murder.
By exposing the lie that there were no commercial plane crashes on 9-11 he could with one sentence end the war on terror. He wil not. He will simply describe all the horrific after effects and do nothing.
Wait. No debris? But... there were 3 hijacker's passports found! Doesn't that qualify as debris?
Seems to me the critical thing is not the absence of debris, it's the fact that the 9/11 Commission report is a total lie, and obviously so. That means the government is involved in a cover-up, which makes them at the least an accessory to the crime and co-conspirators.
I can't even convince people that there were three towers came down. They know the planes brought the towers down, and there were two planes, ergo there were two towers brought down. When I beg them to type "WTC7" into google they act like I'm talking martian. How the fuck am I going to convince them there were no planes? I show them the photo's of the pristine pentagon front lawn, and they chuckle at my naivete. Everyone KNOWS it was a plane hit the pentagon. I'm just a deluded conspiracy theorist.
I thought I was getting smart by using WTC7 and the pentagon lawn as a way to break down peoples' defenses and get them maybe wondering just a little. But it takes more than that to break down religious belief.
They won't believe it till they see it on CNN.
RT is as much bullshit as msnbcbs. Whats the difference? The internet has its share of bullshit too, I've noticed.
so, the grass isn't always greener on the other side, then?
Hillary Clinton: US Losing Information War to Alternative Media
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyjnEm8DZkI (3:43)
Welcome to the Digital Domain indeed.
"We have too much truth" not too little...and if you're trying to build your empire on an Empire of Lies...good luck.
This is not a problem OF the media but FOR the media as folks go "looking for the truth" (some factotem or just basic level of knowledge) "and find it instantly in the palm of their hand.)
Typing is about the only skill set needed would appear...and a "vivid imagination."
I'm surprised at the amount of downarrows that post got.
I guess what I'm saying is all media and news sources have an agenda. If you think RT doesn't, you're blind.
Maybe they tell a different side of the story, but I wouldn't let myself believe they told the truth, as opposed to american media.
Wake up, folks.
jwoop66, after spending a lot of time to shift through the different sources of information, there is no doubt in my mind that the Western mainstream mass media are WAY WORSE than RT! However, you are still relatively correct, as discussed in another relatively recent article republished on Zero Hedge, which stated:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-04-28/cyber-attacks-are-new-cold-war
Cyber-Attacks Are The New Cold War
"The warfare ideology today is ‘Multilateral Unconstrained Disruption’ (MUD). This unrestrictive warfare is meant to disrupt societal functioning; to ‘poison’ information to elevate distrust of all computer information."
Obviously, the established systems of MADNESS (Money As Debt, backed by Mutual Assured Destruction) have NOT actually gone away. The political economy is still based on the enforced frauds of the MAD monetary system, which are still backed up by the MAD military system, HOWEVER, we are now watching more and more MUD thrown around on top of that MADNESS. Backing up lies with violence with technologies trillions of times more powerful and capable is the manifestation of the oxymoronic "scientific dictatorship," which is actually as profoundly unscientific about itself as it can possibly be. The same problem now applies to another classic oxymoron, "military intelligence." Thousands of years of the history of warfare whose successes were based on deceits and treacheries have driven those kinds of successes to become runaway criminal insanities, which automatically become more psychotic the more socially successful those systems of being able to back up lies with violence become. Generation after generation, after generation, the social successfulness of operating systems of organized lies and robberies, becoming more sophisticated systems of enforced frauds, have driven too many of the people doing that to be such extreme manifestations of professional liars and immaculate hypocrites, that they tend to believe in their own bullshit.
That is the overall context in which there have developed monetary systems based on electronic frauds, whose enforcement includes every possible weapon of mass destruction that could be developed due to progress in physical sciences, being applied to become better at backing up lies with violence, which now includes the new doctrine of MUD piled deeper and splashed around over all of the previously existing MADNESS. Indeed, at the present time, political "progress" amounts to spraying MUD on top of MADNESS.
In that context, I agreed with several previous articles by Roberts stating that the NATO countries, controlled by the international banksters, are attempting to consolidate their global systems of control, despite the degree to which that risks starting a war in which the uses of weapons of mass destruction could spin out of control. The international banksters dominated Western Civilization more and more for a few Centuries, through the Anglo-American (Zionist) Empire. Their systems became based upon them being able to control governments to enforce the frauds of privately controlled banks, being able to create the public "money" supply out of nothing as debts for everyone else, while that debt slavery system was backed up with wars based on deceits.
That in the context in which almost all of the significant global news events have been playing through. In that context, RT provides slightly better insight into what the NATO countries, as controlled by their banksters, have really been doing, as well as how extremely dangerous doing that has become! However, I would agree that RT is still primarily another manifestation of professional hypocrites doing their thing, because every country in the world today is some sort of social pyramid system based upon backing up lies with violence, because no countries survived against others who were doing that, without adapting to do that too.
Indeed, the most significant global events are due to the Western Civilization, as dominated by its international banksters, being able to kick the shit out of Russia and China throughout the 20th Century (as well as almost everywhere else) ... while now, both Russia and China have learned a lot through that process, and therefore, are able to start providing some effective resistance, which is why we have to more and more worry about what Roberts has been articulating, that the USA and other NATO countries, as controlled by the international banksters, are attempting to consolidate globalized systems of enforced frauds, that they will still be able to dominate, which would necessarily include them being able to dominate Russia and China ... which are things that Russia and China are more aware of, and more able to attempt to resist happening, and similarly so all over the world, indeed, in actually the majority of the world today ...
As a cherry on the top, regarding RT's mission:
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-31020283
How Russia outfoxes its enemies
"All human history can be portrayed as the history of deception."
That was a great read RM. You shined a light. I hope China and Russia know what they are dealing with.
What make you say that? Examples?
computer's glitchen'
Haven't been a regular viewer since Lauren Lister left. (sigh)
I did see their presentation of victory day(?) in May.
The parade was magnificent. The talking heads were all, "ooooh, aaaahh!" " what splendid uniforms!" " what an AMAZING tank!" " That helicopter is SO loud!" " I now know how chris tingles felt when he saw obama speak!!"
The epitome of objective journalism.
in our games the rules always change. change is truth ,truth is change ..you cannot know the rules, is rule #1.
"They Live" is a lie so it must be true. avoid "They Live" at all costs ..money is real is true so it must be a lie.
Shhhhhhh don't tell people that!! They think only the west uses propaganda! I have news for you folks. No matter where you lie on the spectrum of believes...ALL GOVERNMENTS EAST WEST NORTH AND SOUTH USE PROPAGANDA...OR SHOULD I SAY LIES.
Junk away but the truth is all governments suck and all governments lie...the grass is not greener on the other side. If you think any Government is the solution to the oppression we all face then you need a slap in the face.
Maybe there are some less evil then others but I thouroughly convinced that USA is not in the category of "less Evil"
All governments (and power structures behind them - i.e. TPTB) manipulate information to achieve their desired ends. If they need to lie, they lie. Absolutely.
But we need to remember that sometimes, the truth will tell the story that a power structure needs people to hear. If it helps them, they will tell the truth.
How, then, to tell the difference? One of the most useful tools for digesting "news" is to follow stories over time. If "the story" matches the true events (or close at least), then the story will be consistent over the following weeks and months. When the initial story is a lie, we will consistently see either changes to the story or the story will be dropped and simply not mentioned anymore.
This has happened time and again in the western media lately (the Syria "gassing" and MH-17 are two beautiful examples). They are throwing items out there and then retreating quickly because there is simply not enough material for them to use to maintain their stories.
Telling lies is easy. Maintaining and sustaining lies is extremely taxing. This is why I trust the Russian version of events in Ukraine WAY more than I trust that of the west. Their story is more consistent. Truth works like that.
PC feeding frenzy spreads, no longer just Confederate targets, now going after Columbus:
http://tinyurl.com/naevefm
Too bad that this article is quite correct.
I repeat my overview of what happened:
The most treasonous are those who currently control the government of the USA, and did so more and more, over a prolonged period of time, by applying the methods of organized crime to the political processes. As Roberts states, the entire edifice of Western Civilization is now based upon a long history of being able to back up lies with violence. However, there are NO "solutions" that I can see other than due to the decline and fall of civilization, resulting from that the monetary system has become like a totally metastasized cancer, inside of a society which has become terminally sick and insane. There are NO "practical" ways to overcome the established systems which are funding the political processes, due to the duration and increasing magnitude of the degree to which the funding of politics is extremely unbalanced and becoming even more so ...
Since money is like the mother's milk of politics, or that money is the oxygen for any political fires, the vicious spirals of an almost completely corrupted and crazy monetary system feeding back through its loops through the funding of the the political processes, have driven such extremely unbalanced relationships between the different participants in the political processes that there are no realistic and practical ways to fix those problems which have become It is easy to come up with idealized lists of things which could be possible "solutions," but no politically possibly ways to implement any of those, given the Catch 22 dilemmas.
Most of the bullshit "solutions" promoted within that article above, as well as by the most of the comments posted under it, would only add to the psychotic collapses into chaos, driven by the basic ways that the political economy has become based on enforced frauds, to degree that have become so extreme that there is nothing else that could actually stop that, except for its own mad self-destruction, after which, one would most reasonably expect the next cycle to get even worse than the previous cycle, due to the overall spiral of history having been backing up deceit with destruction, morphing into enforcing frauds.
THEORETICAL SOLUTIONS should be based upon perceiving that there is nothing else which exists than the dynamic equilibria between different systems of organized lies, operating robberies. The established system of legalized lies, backed by legalized violence, which are crucially the ways that governments enforce frauds by privately controlled banks, have become extremely unbalanced, because of there being almost nothing but a core of organized crime, surrounded by controlled opposition.
All of the publicly significant opposition is controlled by the same monetary system which is the root of the problem. I do not believe that there are any realistic or politically possible resolutions of the real problems, outside of the mad self-destruction of the established systems, due to their own inherent contradictions that being able to enforce frauds never stops those frauds from still being false. Those who already have the privilege of legally being able to create the public "money" supply out of nothing as debts for other people are so extremely advantaged thereby that they can relatively easily use that advantage to dominate the funding of all aspects of the political processes, including buy up effective control over any apparent "opposition" groups, especially since the vast majority of people are not now willing and able to perceive the degree to which that is already the case!
There is no doubt that civilization was built through the history of warfare, and that political economy was built inside of that overall context. therefore, governments are necessarily the biggest forms of organized crime, which become dominated by the best organized gangs of criminals. Since they are the biggest and best organized gangs of criminals, they get to call themselves the "government," and to legalize their own crimes. HOWEVER' at the same time, they have also been able to dominate the school systems and the mass media so much, for so long, that the vast majority of people are not able and willing to perceive more deeply the degree to which governments are necessarily the biggest form of organized crime, controlled by the best organized gangs of criminals, which failures to understand things more deeply continues to enable the controlled opposition groups to spout the same old bogus "solutions," which are based on the impossible ideals that will miraculously stop organized crime from being the underlying systems, instead of more realistically attempting to better balance the ways that is actually getting done now.
The established systems do not care about anything but continuing to enforce their frauds, or to continue to be able to back up their legalized lies with legalized violence. That is the context in which the laws against "TREASON AND SEDITION" manifest, and that then is also the context in which one can predict that circumstances will continue to become more psychotically out of touch with relatively objective facts, due to the contradictions that being able to be socially successful through enforcing frauds still never stops those frauds from being false.
In my view, we should be attempting to make the ideals of democracy operating through the rule of law become better realized. However, the overwhelming vast majority of citizens always behave like incompetent political idiots, because those were their personal adaptations, for generation after generation, to living inside of social pyramid systems based upon backing up lies with violence, which became the currently entrenched systems of enforced frauds, which are driving their own mad self-destruction, in paradoxical ways, since the more successfully those social systems are able to continue to enforce frauds, the more psychotic and criminally insane that civilization as a whole becomes overall. Inside of that context, I find the relatively superficial analysis, followed by superficial solutions, common in articles republished on Zero Hedge, to be disheartening. I also tend to even be more discouraged by the majority of the comments published under those articles, because those tend to penetrate into some deeper understanding, but nevertheless, continue to promote bogus "solutions."
It appears that the vast majority of We the People have become Zombie Sheeple, who do not understand the ways that the political economy is based on enforced frauds, because they have been conditioned to not want to understand, while the few people who do understand the established systems of enforced frauds, continue to still only superficially understand the reasons how and why the public "money" supply is being created out of nothing as debts by privately controlled banks, and therefore, around those banks, have grown up a wide variety of large corporations, which are all based on the triumphs of what are euphemistically admitted to be "legal fictions," which are actually systems of legalized lies, backed by legalized violence, that have been developing at an exponential rate, due to their own reinforcrment feedback loops.
The exponential growth of systems based on enforced frauds is driving towards its own mad self-destruction at that exponential rate! However, there are no realistic or politically practical ways to prevent that from continuing to happen. As well, in my opinion, there are also no ways to become prepared enough for the magnitude of that kind of mad self-destruction. (Although I am not asserting that one should not attempt to become prepared, but only that the magnitudes of the madness are going to be amplified to such astronomical sizes that one can not actually become effectively prepared for that.)
Those who are relatively old and rich now may well not live to see the consequences of what they were really doing manifest in ways which become personally significant to them. However, the younger and poorer that you are, the more probable it becomes that you may suffer the consequences of being born into political systems based upon backing up lies with violence, or enforcing frauds, that will go through mad psychotic breakdowns, and crazy collapses into chaos, due to the inherent contradictions that backing up lies with violence, or enforcing frauds, always ends up making the underlying situation get worse, faster ...
The main thing that the established systems of organized crime, that dominate governments at the present time, are doing are the same old BACKING UP DEBT SLAVERY WITH WARS BASED ON DECEITS. The ruling classes are doing the same things that they have always been doing throughout human history, while those they ruled over have continued to adapt to that in the same ways that they also used to do throughout human history. Therefore, the entrenched debt slavery systems have generated numbers which are debt insanities, and those are set up to provoke death insanities. The only genuinely realistic solutions to those problems would have to be some survival through to the emergence of better death control systems, in the context of the opportunities arising from the runaway death insanities in the future.
The vast majority of articles and comments published on Zero Hedge are far, far superior to the content to be found in the most mass media. However, Zero Hedge content continues to primarily be ironically described by one of those whose material has been republished here:
"The absolute best controlled opposition is
one that doesn't know they are controlled."
-- Cognitive Dissonance
Virtually all of the content on Zero Hedge, and similarly elsewhere, is STILL controlled opposition, in the sense that Cognitive Dissonance stated, (including even him too.) The theoretical ways out of that depend upon enough people perceiving politics in radically different ways. However, there are no good reasons to believe that is politically possible. It is barely possible to get some people to agree upon some superficial analysis of the problems presented by central banks, however, it is NOT now possible to get enough people to agree upon any deeper analysis, and therefore, politically impossible to develop enough understanding and agreements regarding how to realistically resolve those real problems.
From any practical political point of view, it appears to be pointless to attempt to develop any genuine opposition, that could overcome the degree to which it was being controlled by the language that it uses, and the philosophical presumptions that it continues to take for granted. The overall dilemmas are that there is almost nothing but a core of organized crime, surrounded by controlled opposition, both of which are as deliberately ignorant about themselves as they can possibly be, because both are dominated by their best available professional liars and immaculate hypocrites.
MEANWHILE, the ruling classes continue to start more genocidal wars based on deceits, as well as prepare to impose democidal martial law. As the established systems become more blatantly based upon enforced frauds, which more obviously are backfiring badly, more people are perceiving the actual social facts to be as those always were, (as summarized in the article above.) However, since there is nothing which is publicly significant surrounding that core of organized crime, but various controlled opposition groups, I would predict that nothing can stop some martial law from continuing to manifest at an exponential rate, as the established systems based on enforcing frauds endeavour to continue to double down their ability to back up their legalized lies with legalized violence, with some limit cases being that they will attack those citizens who protest the entrenched runaway systems based upon enforcing frauds, by accusing them of being "TERRORISTS ENGAGED IN TREASON AND SEDITION," as the rational and justification for increasing the degree to which there manifests democidal martial law, which will NOT work to make things better, but rather continue to drive circumstances to continue to get worse, faster ...
The essential problem continues to be progress in physical science, without progress in political science. That is demonstrated by the ways that violent revolutions are now as absurd and insane as are violent wars, after the development of weapons of mass destruction. Theoretically speaking, any groups that were seriously interested in violent revolution and/or civil war within the USA would make it one of their priorities to seize control over some weapons of mass destruction. However, thinking about that drives one back to the central issue that backing up lies with violence, after the development of weapons of mass destruction, has become ways to commit collective suicide, rather than resolve problems through those means.
Basically, thousands of years of human history has become "bankrupt." It is not merely the combined money/murder systems that have become madly self-destructive, but also the controlled opposition groups that surround that madness which are also similarly madly self-destructive. Progress in physical science has enabled making and maintaining globalized systems of electronic monkey money frauds, backed by the threat of force from apes with atomic bombs, with the heart of that system being the USA, since it has had the world's global reserve currency, and has had the biggest budget for its globalized military to back that up. However, none of the current dominance of the American systems copes with its own increasing contradictions. Therefore, the USA is leading the ways towards psychotic breakdowns, and criminally insane self-destructions.
The ways that the established systems within the USA would protect themselves from TREASON AND SEDITION are themselves the most TREASONOUS AND SEDITIOUS phenomena. At the same time, there are matching bookends of paradoxes that the publicly significant controlled opposition groups continue to spout the same old-fashioned bullshit, which was originally promoted by the biggest bullies (which are now the best organized gangsters, the banksters).
Given that overall context, I see no practical ways to either prevent nor prepare for the ways that civilization is driving its own mad self-destruction, due to being based upon backing up lies with violence, or enforcing frauds, automatically becoming more psychotic and criminally insane, the more socially successful those doing that are able to become. Furthermore, I have always found that the more that I learned about that situation, the worse it got. Therefore, these days I no longer am able to maintain any reasonable hopes regarding the finite facts expected to transpire in the foreseeable future.
THEORETICALLY SPEAKING, the existence of electronic frauds backed by atomic bombs should motivate us to develop really radical, revolutionary political science. However, that barely exists at the present time, being at most a Fringe Cubed position. At present, it is at the fringe of the fringe of the fringe to think seriously about quantum mechanics and the special theory of relativity, etc., regarding what those ideas should do to transform political science.
Instead, we continue to watch as progress in physical science is headed towards developing abilities to back up lies with violence which become quadrillions of times greater than the trillions of times which now already exist. We wait to see how much longer civilization can survive its contradictions, which are inherent in the ways that social success based on enforcing frauds never stops those frauds from being false, and therefore, that civilization necessarily becomes more psychotic and criminally insane every day ...
As far as I can tell, the ruling classes that dominate the USA have prepared for nothing else that to attempt to impose democidal martial law, while the controlled opposition that recognizes that continues to mostly stay with the same basic frame of reference, because of the degree to which they are controlled opposition, that does not recognize the degree to which they are being controlled by the ways that they think, and the language that they use, and the philosophical presumptions that they continue to take for granted.
There are growing Grand Canyon Chasms between progress in physical science, without progress in political science. Both the established systems of organized crime, as well as their controlled opposition groups, are driving those Chasms to get wider, to the degree that there appears to have already been generated situations of irreconcilable social polarization, which may well be trumped by irreparable destruction of the natural world, due to the ways that social success based upon enforcing frauds becomes more and more madly self-destructive, since it depends upon more and more evil deliberate ignorance and willful blindness, in order to keep itself going through each of its increments of doubling down on its ability to back up lies with violence, which automatically becomes crazier and crazier, since then the Chasms between those lies and the relatively objective facts become a wider and wider Grand Canyon.
At the present time, I am not able to believe in any other future being more probable than democidal martial, despite that that will end up making circumstances continue to get worse, faster ... If and only if the government was actually a democratic republic operating through the rule of law, would the laws against TREASON AND SEDITION make genuine sense and be able to legitimize. However, the degree to which the public "money" supply has become frauds by private banks, enforced by governments, is the degree to which there is NOT an actual democratic republic, operating through the rule of law. The actual social facts are that the degree to which the government is crazy and corrupted is demonstrated by the degree to which the public "money" supply has become legalized counterfeiting by privately controlled banks, which frauds are enforced by governments, which is roughly about 99%.
The government of the USA still leads the way towards the decline and fall of civilization, while that has reached the point where it is about 99% like the article above has described it to be. That government is now practically nothing but a core of organized crime, surrounded by controlled opposition groups. The degree to which the opposition is controlled is similarly something like more than 99%. The government of the USA, since it still has the global reserve currency, as well as the biggest military budget to back that up, is already about 99% psychotic and criminally insane, which is matched by the ways that all of the various controlled opposition groups which are publicly significant with the USA are similarly insane.
Tragically, given that the established and entrenched systems are now more than 99% based on madness, there are no practical and realistic ways to prevent that nor prepare for that automatically continuing to get worse, faster ... which includes that any kind of increase in the degree to which there is democidal martial law, along with a matching increase in the resistance to that, will only result in the overall situation becoming even madder.
Disagree.
Hah! Such a well-reasoned reply!
By the way, this link works to go to the article quoted by Roberts:
http://sjlendman.blogspot.ca/2015/06/eu-bashes-russian-propaganda-by-ste...
Regarding Stephen Lendman's statement that:
I think that the deeper problem is the degree to which people are lying to themselves, by taking for granted the prejudices and presumptions built into the natural languages that they use, as well as into the dominant philosophy of science.
I have previously read many other articles by Stephen Lendman, and I have found him to be another example of a reactionary revolutionary, according to the degree that he wants to continue to rely upon false fundamental dichotomies, and the related impossible ideals, when he turns from relatively good analysis of the problems, to promote various bogus "solutions" based upon old-fashioned dualities. One of the ways that manifests is that people want there to still be a fundamental dichotomy between lies versus the truth. However, a more nuanced and sophisticated view is that there can be nothing but different systems of organized lies, all of which have their own inherent blind spots.
In my comment above I railed against the ways that more scientific methods are not applied to politics, so that political science could be made to become more consistent with physical science. However, doing that would take series of intellectual scientific revolutions, which would radically change the presumptions regarding that there is any possibility that any groups of human beings could possess any absolute truth, which could be expressed in any finite ways. (In general, progress in the philosophy of science has not been respected by political science, but rather, the realities of political situations being based on backing up lies with violence have tended to corrupt the philosophy of science, more than that progress in science has been able to become better political science.)
One could and should go through much more radical criticisms of the basic philosophy of science, upon which all notions of power and information are now based. One of the ways I illustrate that is to point out that an arbitrary minus sign was inserted into the entropy equations of thermodynamics and information theory, in order that the measurements of power and information could end up being expressed as relative positive values, rather than as relatively negative values.
The mathematical physics itself was telling us that everything we "know" is based on some relative SUBTRACTION. That is the fundamental process through which all human knowledge is generated, and therefore, all such "knowledge" is always relative illusions, or relative lies. After we relatively subtract any living entity from its environment, then it must take energy flows from that environment in order to continue living. In basic English, that taking is ROBBERY. (Of course, that subtraction is never absolute, and so the processes of robbery are never finished.)
As soon as human beings tell stories about their world, including stories about themselves, those stories are necessarily manifestations of more or less organized lies operating robberies. However, the paradoxical ways that human history developed, due to successful warfare based upon backing up deceits with destruction, and then successful finance based upon enforcing frauds, have resulted in those who were the biggest bullies being able to have their bullshit social stories become dominate, despite those stories usually being totally the opposite to what was really happening.
It is not an accident that Western Civilization became based on systems of legalized lies, backed by legalized violence. However, so far, the degree to which that was previously the most socially successful strategy has resulted in us living in a Bizarro Mirror World, or a Wonderland Matrix, where everything appears proportionately backwards and absurd. Meanwhile, in that context, there is almost nothing but a core of organized crime, surrounded by controlled opposition groups. I REPEAT: the deeper dilemmas we face are the degrees to which the controlled opposition groups continue to stay within the same frame of reference which was originally promoted as the biggest bullies' bullshit world view.
I think the dude's point was that brevity is the soul of wit.
RM, political science is no more science than economics or psychiatry. All three are simply the art of lying writ large by the over-credentialed in the service of those thought to be running the show.
Economics and psychiatry are both subsets of warfare.
The profound paradoxes with respect to political science revolve around recognizing that the oldest and best developed form of social science or social engineering was warfare. However, the oldest book on The Art of War starts by saying "success depends upon deceit," and ends by saying "spies are the most important soldiers." Thousands of years of human history have driven those basic facts about the nature of successful warfare to become the foundation of our current political economy. Ironically, there is a science of lying, similar to the science of evil.
Of course, I agree with you, zhandax, that political science, economics and psychiatry have all manifested INSIDE the context of militarism, which is the ideology of the murder system, and thus, the self-justifying supreme ideology. However, I do not agree that means that there is no science whatsoever to be found. Rather, one has to embrace the paradoxes that the human murder systems have become the primary ways that human intelligence has actually been applied to the problems presented to the human species by natural selection pressures, which were always inherent in the nature of life.
The necessary essence of better political science would be better study of the death control systems. However, that kind of science is in a head-on collision with the history of warfare being most successful by being most deceitful, while the development of weapons of mass destruction have made those problems trillions of times worse than ever before in human history.
Meanwhile, almost every important decision in my life has been driven by worrying about the existence of weapons of mass destruction, driving the political systems I was born in to become runaway criminal insanities. All of my bla, bla, blah about "political science" are attempts to cope with that problem, at least in my own psychological ways, in not more effective political ways.
RM, I will agree with you that they have all become subsets of warfare. as have patriotism, the media in general, and it's ilk. However, I contend that science has been applied to those arts to more finely focus their scope and efficacy. As such, yes, you can find elements of science in each. But they remain art forms. As we all recognize, correlation does not imply causation.
I would further contend that the only intellectual effort at 'death control', in the sense of reducing said outcome is harbored in the comments section here, as well as in a few other scattered outposts on the interwebs. Certainly the status quo is only interested in 'death control' in the sense of insuring it is effective and rapid. As far as your bigger picture it seems that financial weapons of mass destruction are more a risk to all our well being, and those are creations of banksters who simply had to buy enough politicians.
I agree with that, zhandax.
You have some good insight to the human condition. You have left me with more questions than answers. I never thought I would feel the need to ask my local physicist questions about politics after reading something written on ZH. I just shake my head mostly in agreement with some of your observations. I don't and won't give you advice, just one suggestion, start a blog. Thanks.
Thanks, Moccasin.
I run a fringe registered poltical party in Canada, in order to conduct on-going political experiments.
RM, you speak of "people lying to themselves". That is correct. As I've said many times...
"People claim to want the Truth. But that is not so. 99.9% of people only want the truth that is consistent with their Worldviews". 95% of the time.
And that is also why I've said many times that "To give up all Illusions, Pretenses, Fables and Myths, is the beginning to true Wisdom." It is a journey that few are willing to make.
Nigga, please!!!
TeamDepends:
Radical Marijuana was deliberately a phrase developed to express the same connotations as Crazy Nigga.
TD. LMAO. He sounds like some of the college professors I had. Maybe he is one. A lot of words but no wisdom or knowledge to garner.
I agree that PCR is controlled opposition. Here is a link to a good article that reveals who PCR works for:
http://redefininggod.com/2015/05/globalist-agenda-watch-2015-update-24-g...
However, do not throw out the baby with the bathwater. What PCR says is inevitably 90% true, and is of value just because of that. Just be aware that sometimes the biggest lies are those of omission, and what PCR *doesn't* say is pretty damning: that all of this shitshow going down is done in the name of globalization.
And why has he remained silent on the scourge of ring around the collar?
Yes, Implied Violins, that the standard observation I made regarding "controlled opposition." About 90% of their presentations tend to be good analysis, BUT, which then tends to collapse back to bogus "solutions" in the last 10% of their presentations.
I totally agree with you that the best way to lie is through lying by omission, which is what our public school systems and mass media specialize in doing!
Still, I admire the degree to which Roberts tends to not pull his punches, and does not usually end his articles with some appeal to irrational hopium. In my view, Roberts fits the description that I quoted above, about being controlled opposition that does not know it is being controlled, due to taking for granted too much.
Indeed, I must presume that I am also that, since I am still communicating using the English language, which is the natural language which has most developed to become an expression of the biggest bullies' bullshit ...
When opposition becomes "uncontrolled", we see late 18th century France. We're not there yet, but that's the direction we're headed for sure.
RM, thanks for your reply, but I have to respectfully disagree: PCR absolutely is aware of what he is NOT saying. The man is brilliant, he worked in the system, he knows history and he is very, very adept with the written word. If you will actually read through the above link, you will see some very, very interesting things regarding Mr. Roberts, and perhaps come to a different conclusion: his job is to point out the obvious insanity of the west, and make the east (BRICS) look good in comparison. When the time comes, he will absolutely plug the BRICS as the solution to all our problems...but of course, it is just another face of the NWO. Alas.
Well, Implied Violins, since I have no way to see inside of Roberts' own consciousness, I can NOT say ... I read the article which you linked. I have found that EVERY publicly significant figure that I am aware of, and have bothered to investigate, ends up presenting similar patterns with respect to their personal history facts.
In the case of Canadian history, one will not be surprised to discover how the Canadian responsible for starting the Canadian version of the War on Drugs, and the longest serving Prime Minister of Canada, got his career started by working for the Rockefellers, as a young man. All over the world, the same pattern pops up again and again. As the article you linked stated: "the globalist central bankster families did (the Rockefellers, Rothschilds, et al. built the NWO using America as their expendable tool)."
Some people have accused me of being some kind of CIA agent, because I have such an extremely cynical view regarding "Ending the War on Drugs." My own most probable interpretation is that I can not help still being "controlled opposition" because I can not stop thinking using the English language, as well as relying upon "common sense," despite that I abstractly "know" that is mostly wrong, from a relatively objective, more scientific perspective.
Some people who know me assert that I am too quick to give people excuses, which is a flip side of my efforts to try to understand them. My own interpretation of Roberts would be that he is not so much consciously fulfilling the role that the article you linked accuses him of doing, but rather, is subconsciously slip-sliding away into that role.
Personally, I have found that the lies are different at every level, and that must apply to whatever I may have believed, as much as to others. My abstract conclusions are that EVERYONE lives through systems of more or less organized lies, operating robberies. There are no people I am aware of that do not eat and excrete. There are no people that are not some kind of entropic pump of energy flows. Therefore, my view is that EVERYONE is necessarily operating through their own systems of organized lies and robberies. Hence, I do not denounce anyone else too much for also being that, since I give excuses to myself for being like that, and therefore, tend to extend similar excuses to everyone else.
Nobody gets to become publicly significant without participating in the bigger systems of organized lies operating robberies. Those who were historically the best at doing that tend to be able to dominate the funding of anyone, or any groups, that they can pick to enable those groups to promote their opinions, which may well have an ulterior agenda that those people in those groups are not aware of.
For instance, the banksters' buddies funded the Women's Temperance Movement in the USA, in order to promote alcohol prohibition. Did that mean that those in the Women's Temperance Movement did not believe what they believed? No, that meant that their views were amplified to become publicly significant because the banksters' buddies funded them, due to the banksters' ulterior motives and agenda.
Most of the controlled opposition does not consciously know that they are being controlled. I would expect that to whatever degree Roberts is serving an ulterior agenda, he does not have fully conscious awareness of that, but rather feels like he is expressing his own sense of intellectual integrity. That is the way that I feel too ... although I am probably wrong about that, to some degree that I could never been able to objectively judge!
Read between the lines. AIPAC is a front for Israel who has murdered any opposing US politicians and the US government is now under state capture by Israel, a rogue military state holding the world hostage via banking structure operated by spawn of this cult of religious freaks and thieves. Physically assaulting politicians, destroying reputations, murdering family members and sliding back under their scum-covered rocks.
PCR is a scholar and a gentlemen who may have a family he wants to stay alive for.
ISRAEL SHOULD BE WIPED OFF THE MAP AND ITS CULT MEMBERS AND SYMPATHZIERS THROWN INTO GITMO.
Is that what you want to hear him say?
In the years you've been posting, I've tried to read, but have never once been able to finish a post you've wrote.
I bet I'd do the same if we were talking face to face.
I don't think it would bother you. You probably wouldn't notice.
You'd hear yourself. That would be enough.
read this. you are short attention span theater, part of the problem, not the solution. you are a tool of the empire. everyone knows where ad hominen attacks come from here. the absence of substance gives you away every time.
After this commercial is over, and my hotpocket is fully nuked, I'll write a 2000 word post about the benefits of sophistry. You'll be amazed.
hold on. what were we talking about?
That would be over a thousand words less than the parent post. (Yeah, I checked, because I copied the text to another window for when I have time later tonight to read it)
I *will* read it, but I fear that posts like this are part of the problem. All this time reading and writing text, saying things we already know, and nobody has a solution that is workable without violence, so...what ya gonna do?
Edit: Oh wait, I thought this was in reply to the posts above from R.M. That one further up in the thread that I'm referring to is 3094 words.
Yes, umdesch4:
"nobody has a solution that is workable without violence ..."
While, after the development of weapons of mass destruction that are trillions of times more powerful than ever before in human history, nobody has a solution that is workable with violence!
ELECTRONIC FRAUDS
AND ATOMIC BOMBS!
I know, and this is what keeps me awake at night. My own personal feelings on this is that there is a tragic flaw, mostly genetic, but partially a result of "nurture" (vs. "nature") in the human race. It is extreme sociopathology. Unfortunately, sociopaths lacking in what we'd call empathy, morality, and a conscience, are best able to claw their way into positions of power, not caring what damage to the rest of humanity they cause in the process. The greater the degree of sociopathology, the higher up they are able to get. Look at the occasional moments of honesty you get from central bankers. Are they not all dangerous sociopaths? That's the club that you and I ain't in, according to George Carlin.
The interesting side effect of this, is that, lacking empathy, these people will only work with each other to the extent that they see opportunity for personal gain. They will throw each other to the wolves without blinking. This is where I feel that intelligent people of conscience should focus their efforts. At least that would disrupt and delay the implementation of these systems of corruption, violence, fraud, and lies. There are always, as far as I'm concerned, more sociopaths reaching for power, and there always will be. I just want to pit them against each other, and have them leave the rest of us alone.
Yes, umdesch4, those are my views too. However, as you already know, the psychopaths will not leave others alone, but rather go after the easier targets first.
MEANWHILE, I usually attempt to use some transcendental poetry, to generate some transcendental hope, that is not based on any finite outcomes, in order to cope with the ways that the more I learn about actual political problems, the worse those get!
My basic song and dance is that natural selection was internalized as human intelligence, which then was applied to the most important selection pressure, which was other people. Hence, the history of warfare. That history selected for some people to be successful by becoming more psychopathic, who were perhaps both genetically predisposed to that, as well as more able to be culturally conditioned to act like that. Ponerology is the term that has been coined for an attempt to scientifically study evil, and that science is naturally focused a lot upon the sociopathic and the psychopaths.
My preferred kind of "transcendental poetry:"
Energy Is Spirit,
while entropy is the scientific way to approach understanding evil.
Of course, I point out that progress in physical science has dramatically transformed the ways that we think about time and space, and since entropy is the ways that energy is distributed in space, that should have also radically changed the ways that we think about entropy. However, since entropy is the scientific approach to understand evil, while society is dominated by the most evil, psychopathic people, the currently established mainstream views regarding entropy are as backwards as possible. Thus, what I try to explain and promote is that our problems could only be better resolved through better death control systems. In other words, I think that revolutionary political science should be applied through militarism, as the supreme ideology, in order to accomplish the necessary purposes that natural selection pressures drove human artificial selection systems to actually do.
Genuine opposition, that was not fake controlled opposition, would develop better death control systems, to back up better debt control systems. The essence of the problems that Roberts described are NOT accidents, but rather were driven to develop for good reasons, which make sense. As soon as life exists, then its shadow of death comes along with it, the same as after the miracle of energy exists, then its shadow of entropy accompanies it.
A lot of my kind of bla, bla, blah is based on attempting to develop a creative synthesis of post-modernizing science with ancient mysticism, which is focused upon what are the most important issues, which are the human murder systems. However, so far, we have have had progress in physical science, to enable the creation of weapons of mass destruction, while nothing like that has happened in political science, in order to better understand how and why those kinds of murder systems developed ... Generally speaking, the understanding of natural selection as the manifestation of energy systems has NOT been applied to understand human beings and civilizations as energy systems, which have developed artificial selection systems, inside of that context of natural selection systems.
I suppose, as someone who grew up on the barbaric fringes of the British Empire, I have belatedly developed some retrofitted compassion, due to thinking about the problems presented by the existence of weapons of mass destruction. I do not believe that the current crop of sociopathic psychopaths are going to leave other people alone! Rather, what I like to believe is that enough other people will face the reasons for how and why civilization is controlled by systems of enforced frauds, in order that we could mitigate the degree to which there are runaway systems of legalized lies, backed by legalized violence, becoming more extremely unbalanced, because there is practically no genuine opposition to resist that!
With respect to authors like Roberts, I would ask: "What are the kinds of alternative death control systems, that he would propose to replace the current systems, which are now running on the basis of the maximum possible deceits?" However, generally speaking, the controlled opposition, reactionary revolutionaries, are never willing and able to answer that question. If one is less dishonest, then one should admit that there must be some death control systems. From a biological point of view, sex and death come as a package deal, while, from a sociological point of view, money and murder come as package deal. Ironically, in my opinion, our current kind of civilization has even greater social taboos regarding money than it does about sex, as is demonstrated by the degree to which people are not aware of that. Similarly, we have generally the most childish attitudes possible towards death and murder, while those tend to be promoted by the controlled opposition groups, because that is what the core of organized crime wants to be promoted.
Abstractly, one could think that human beings should "grow up" to cope with the development of weapons of mass destruction. However, the first generation that grew up with those weapons is still alive today, and mostly maintains the most childish attitudes possible towards that ...
Perhaps R.M. has created an excellent strategy for getting his short posts up voted as our reward for his brevity. Me, I just skim every other bold-faced sentence having been burned one too many times on that graphomania.
Sure, whatever works for you, FixItAgainTony.
On my own Web site forum, I like to use COLOURED BOLD FONTS, to emphasize the most important points. Indeed, one could skim backwards through that, stopping at the points in coloured bold fonts, to see the major points that I have gradually developed to repeat.
After this commercial is over, and my hotpocket is fully nuked, I'll write a 2000 word post about the benefits of sophistry. You'll be amazed.
hold on. what were we talking about?
jwoop66
Well the topic at hand is about TRUTH and yet you want to write about the benefits of sophistry?
That is a tactic that I would expect from someone who is intent on sidetracking a discussion.
But the sad TRUTH is that we are FACING A PREDICAMENT and NOT A PROBLEM.
There IS NO WORLD PROBLEM.
Thus THERE ARE NO SOLUTIONS as THERE IS NOT A PROBLEM.
PREDICAMENTS ONLY HAVE OUTCOMES. The OUTCOME is usually dismal at best and FATAL at worst.
And YOUR PROGNOSIS IS TERMINAL because YOU ARE IN ABJECT DENIAL.
There are no Political Solutions,
To our troubled evolution
Have no faith in Constitution
Or in Bloody Revolution
Our so-called leaders speak
With words they try to jail you
They subjugate the meek
It's the rhetoric of failure
Where does the answer LIE (meaning DISHONESTY IN THIS CONTEXT)
We live from day to day
Is there nothing we can buy (again being subjected to LIES you really can't buy it.)
There must be a better way.
We are spirits in the Material World...
That is the annotated version...for the shallow with a 30 second attention span.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZAGvdmyr_g
Solutions?
limited govt.
free markets and free people.
Problem is most refuse, and cannot accept this. They want someone to solve the problem. Whoever that someone is, however, will only try to solve their own problems.
Tall Tom:
The lyrics of that kind of song are merely more old-fashioned bullshit morality, which is completely wrong, in the sense of contradicting the basics of the progress in science, which has been based on one unitary mechanism after another overcoming the previous dualities. I find it to be ironically old-fashioned rhetoric to state that:
"We are Spirits in the Material World..."
That view does NOT allow for the ways that matter is a form of energy, which is demonstrated by the fact that atomic bombs go boom. Energy is spirit. Super-concentrated energy is matter. The material world is super-concentrated spiritual world. The fact that atomic bombs go boom proves that. That fact also proves that the old-fashioned ideas about time and space are wrong. Hence, since entropy is the scientific approach to understanding evil, the old-fashioned ideas about evil are wrong. Indeed, all of the controlled opposition, in the form of old-fashioned religions and ideologies, have moralities which are totally backwards (which makes sense because they are forms of controlled opposition.) Of course, those kinds of old-fashioned moralities continue to be popular, with people who ONLY use scientific technologies to repeat their favourite old-fashioned stories, by being able to display more fantastic special effects, but otherwise do nothing more to change their old-fashioned stories from being stupidly backwards.
In my view, Tall Tom, you present more of the relevant facts than most, as in your previous comment above that used the analogy of a jet plane running out of fuel, which should adapt to that fact, while our civilization is controlled by "money" made out of nothing as debts, to "pay" for its jet fuel, and that perception controls us to behave in ways which deliberately ignore the consequences of basing everything upon being able to strip-mine the planet's natural resources, at an exponential rate, which has been done through everyone running on a debt treadmill engine, always going deeper into debt, in order to pay to strip-mine the planet.
Those problems show up first and foremost in the financial systems based upon enforced frauds, due tot the global limits of diminishing returns from strip-mining the planet. Greece is merely one of the symbolic places where that is happening, while everywhere else, more or less, is suffering from the same basic PREDICAMENT. That "problem" is not being solved because it is not being perceived. The lying symbols continue to be able to dominate the truth about the relatively objective facts, because most people can still use the "money" made out of nothing to "pay" for their little piece of the pie based upon strip-mining the planet.
Meanwhile, guys like jwoop66 are deliberately ignorant, and so, prefer to promote the same old impossible ideals, which are NOT happening, and could NEVER actually happen. I.e., "limited govt., free markets and free people," when ACTUALLY, there continues to be BIGGER GOVERNMENT, which is less "limited," and so, LESS and LESS "free markets" or "free people." Guys like jwoop66 are content to continue to promote impossible ideals, despite that those have nothing to do with the real world, but rather, actually make the opposite happen in the real world, because such impossible ideals are actually being promoted by various controlled opposition groups, which are all the publicly significant, old-fashioned religions and ideologies, and all of their bogus moralities, which have their mechanisms BACKWARDS.
The main reasons that there are "no political solutions" are that the actual political solutions are done through the applications of the methods of organized crime, surrounded by controlled opposition groups, both of which spout the same bullshit about that. Despite that there now EXIST globalized electronic frauds, backed by the force of atomic bombs, the overwhelming vast majority of people continue to believe in old-fashioned bullshit regarding time and space, and everything else that they experience.
Politics continues to be almost totally dominated by old-fashioned religions and ideologies, and their backwards moralities, because those were always forms of controlled opposition. Some people penetrate more deeply through the perceptions of that bullshit than others, while most do not bother to attempt to do so.
Judging from previous comments, Tall Tall, you make a sincere effort to look through the illusions of the perceptions that were presented to us through the public schools and mass media, (although I believe we should go deeper still). However, guys like jwoop66 are examples of those who are deliberately ignorant, and want to stay that way, and thus, have no problems promoting the same old impossible to ever actually implement ideals, especially because they continue to have all the mechanisms backwards.
The core to real political solutions are the death control systems. The paradoxical aspects of those real political solutions have been that those were most socially successful when done through the maximum possible deceits and treacheries, while the resulting social success achieved in that way also was able to control the fake opposition, as expressed through the morality of every publicly significant old-fashioned religion and ideology, all of which are promoting the same false fundamental dichotomies, and related impossible ideals, which always backfire badly, and cause the opposite to actually happen, because they are controlled opposition, which do not promote better death controls, but rather that there should be no death controls.
That is the path we are on now, towards political "solutions" taking the form of death insanities, which will go out of control, because there are no better political solutions possible, given the degree to which most people want to continue to believe in the same old-fashioned bullshit, and do not want to penetrate any deeper in order to understand how and why there is almost nothing but organized crime, surrounded by controlled opposition, which systems are being amplified trillions of times by progress in physical science, while it continues to be that nothing like that is allowed to happen in political science, due to politics STILL being dominated by old-fashioned bullshit that most people want to continue to believe in!
What do you think the attacks on PCR are above? That's right, ad hominem. They don't address what he says at all, but attack who he is and "who he works for".
It's a stupid reductio ad absurdum argument, and if you beieve it, maybe your views are also controlled opposition and a means of delivering some higher cause. Some different angle. If you believe that bullshit, you might as well not even bother.
"It's a stupid reductio ad absurdum argument"
No, it is an ad hominem argument, unable to counter what he says you attack the spearker personally.
Can't we mutate a Latin phrase to mean both?
Watch cartoons. Validating what we few people (comparatively speaking) have seen over the last decade (since 911 really) is an oasis. Talking to anyone about this even today is impossible, they do not see it, think the country is going to rebound as it always has. As long as their small world is intact, they prefer watching Dancing with the unemployed Stars. They get angry when trying to drop the seed of "it is not what it seems" into their necrotic brain tissue.
I enjoy reading your thoughts, as long winded as they are.
You speak a lot about lies backed with violence, but then again we are surrouned by the very thing.
I would like to chat with you sometime.
Radical...you seem to have some wits about you. Let me ask.....were there commercial plane crashes on 9-11? If yes, on what verifiable basis did you get that? And if no.....then you agree the entire global war on terror was a staged fraud?
Let me guess...with that big brain of yours you will have no opinion or are unsure?
Oknowwhat, my thoughts about that topic were recorded in this forum thread: 9/11
My current opinions are that the alleged commercial airliners in the official story did NOT actually crash into the Trade Towers and the Pentagon. Of course, it is extremely difficult to shift through the available evidence about that, to decide which of that was faked! I not exactly sure of all the details, and I think I have to live with that uncertainty never being able to be satisfactorily resolved. However, I am completely convinced that the events on 9/11/2001 must have been some kind of inside job, false flag attack. (Furthermore, I believe that is very probable that the events on 9/11 were actually done by Zionists in order to blame on Muslims.) Overall, I believe that the War on Terror was deliberately designed to become a self-fulfilling prophesy, like the War on Drugs also was, as one of the many phases of varoius wars based on deceits, which backed up the basic debt slavery systems, through the combined money/murder systems.
If you watch a lot of the vids out there on the 9/11 attack with the mindset of believing what the .gov is saying is true, you would have to be a fool after all the hrs of vids to still beleive the .gov.
If you watch the vids with the mindset that if was a lie, you will come out of it completly beleiving it was an inside job, as I do!
There are far too many issues that cannot be explained, without major doubt.
But most people beleive the lie and therefore find it redundant to watch any vides!
Good points Fiat. Keep in mind that never before in world history had a plane crash EVER been physically verified by a video, photo, witness, or film. 9-11 became the FIRST and ONLY plane crash site physically verified with only video, photos, witnesses and film!!!! And 4 times on the same day.
Verifiable time stamped parts is the only way to physically verify a plane or plane crash. To this day, not one single piece has been verified in any way. Althought they found and transcripted the Black boxes, flight data recorders and voice data recorders......NOT ONE had a serial ID number?!!!!!!! oooppps. And they still used it as "evidence" anyhow?!!!!!!
There is no possible way that a plane was able to manuvre into the pentagon, and even if it was possible where is the plane wreckage?
The pentagon has hundreds of cameras, and all the other camera recordings from other businesses were confiscated, and only two or three frames were released from the pentagon of the explosion just after impact.
I have watched probably 100 hrs of videos and read many articles on the events of that day and I could list many, many issues that just dont make sense.
For some of the events to happen on that day is possible but for all of the anomalies is just plain BS.
Just think of all that was gained that day by TPTB.
"No possible way plane manuvered and where is the wreckage"? You are correct it was impossible because there were no commercial plane crashes on 9-11. They lied. The war on terror like hundreds of other staged military events was a lie. Theyve done it before and they will do it again.
In terms of wreckage....there was TONS of it. In Shanksville they just threw it all in a dumpster!!! There's just one problem with EVERY single supposed piece. NOT ONE SINGLE PIECE can be physically identified. Not one. Nothing has a single serial or ID part number. A first in world history and it happened 4 times at 4 supposed locations. They lied.
"The cameras were confiscated at the Pentagon". Of course they were. They lied. There were no commercial plane crashes on 9-11. If they showed you something it would have been something other than Saudi Arabians flying it?!!! They lied.
"I watched 100 hrs of video". Stop doing that. Never in world history has a video ever physcially verified a plane or plane crash. Never....except 9-11. 911 became the first aviation disaster physically confirmed by videos and 4 times on the same day?!!! They lied. There were no commercial plane crashes on 9-11. They lied.
"Just think of all that was gained that day". The implications of a staged 9-11 go even beyond the terrible deaths that occured because of it. With staging 9-11 you have produced a never ending global war. Does anyone have an idea of how profitable that is? Yes they stage vietnam though it wasnt profitable. Yes they staged pearl harbor and created the cold war...but that ended. Most wars created are not NEVER ENDING even though militaries would LOVE never ending wars.
Bottom line...the reason none of these offical 9-11 crap makes any sense is because they lied. There were no commercial plane crashes on 9-11. The entire global war on terror is a staged murderous fraud.
As I thought Radical, even with that big juicy brain of yours....you are unsure. Even though these were commercial plane crashes, it is essential to use the word "believe" as many times as you can. These arent ghosts or tooth fairies. Never believe anything. Simply physically verify.
Start with your opening sentence. "My opinion is that the alleged airliners did not crash into the towers and the Pentagon". Great! STOP RIGHT THERE!!! No need to say anything else. If no commercial airliners crashed on 9-11 the war on terror was a staged murderous fraud. No need for who you think may have been involved. No need to analyse fake evidence and details. Nothing.
THERE WERE NO COMMERCIAL PLANE CRASHES ON 9-11. Your big juicy brain can now relax.
I saw a program on regular tv a year before 9-11. it was about a building in new york that was built with a new stacking method, and open floor. columns around the perimeter, and elevator shafts. built on a huge pan, because the bedrock was down too far to anchor to. the building had some serious cracking issues where the lateral supports connected to the gusset plates, welded to the columns. cracks as wide as my thumb, that they were rewelding. but the problem wasn't the welds, it was the gusset plates breaking away from the column, taking a piece of the column with it. the show ended with engineers not able to find a fix, that did not add so much additional weight, that the lower floors would not be able to support it. it left me with the thought, that if they couldn't fix it, the building would have to be demolished. that was the first information about the wtc that I recall. they also mentioned the mandated asbestos removal, that was going to cost a billion, and had been delayed more than once.
The supposed terrorist were not in the buildings they were on the planes. If the planes were staged then the entire war on terror is a staged fraud. The US mil and gov had done this thousands of times. 9-11 was no different.
Sheeit, you europeans don't know what it's like to have quota cops out runnin' round, desperate to bring the booty back to The Man.
Chris Christy is on a media blitz after announcement for POTUS today. He says he is going to tell people the truth. And the other republicans won't.
I hope he does just that. 2016 Jeb vs. Hillary is freefall of democracy into its own monarchist footprint.
Chris Christy's truth?! Yeah, if bruce springsteen will spend an hour with him, he'll do and say whatever you want.
Running mate should be Mitch Miller.
Nah,
It will be the Burger King King.
Christie will soon drop out of race on doctor's advice that running could be fatal.
His doctor might have more to say about his overeating:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aczPDGC3f8U
Mitch Ryder.
It was so weird today at his campaign announcement. As far as I can remember, there was no old people music (bruce springstien) They played music that the kids like called "Bon Jovi"
/sarc and not sarc.
LOL! He is a little Springsteen mega fan boy.
I can think of one good thing for America and New Jersey would be if Bruce, Christy and Bon Jovi would jump off some pier down on the Jersey Shore. Preferably when the sharks are feeding.
Southside Johnny is the real deal.
Caught him on SCTV back around '81.
G. Edward Griffin interviewed a former KGB Agent in the Mid 80's Video's on YouTube. In the interview the KGB Agent explained that for a Propaganda Campaign to be truly effective it must cross Generations or be "Generational."
Step 1. Demoralize
Step 2. Destabilize
Step 3. Crises
Step 4. Normalcy
G. Edward Griffin Interview " How To Brainwash a Nation."
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zeMZGGQ0ERk
With the Centrailized Vertical Integration of the six biggest Presstitute Fascist MSM. These Pure Criminal Sociopaths have perfected the Art of PsyOp, False Narratives & Propagand Campaigns.
“We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”
-Pure Evil Psychopath / Sociopath / Treasonist - Carl Rove
The Presstitute Facist MSM also use Goebbels propaganda principles.
http://www.psywarrior.com/Goebbels.html
I would quote these principles in the comment section of The Globe and Mail
Until Thomas Darcy McGee banned me from commenting.
The one added element is now AI. …. They can stay one step ahead of public perception and play everyone mentally like a banjo. … Hell I know what they’re doing and still fall for the false narrative at some level all the time.
Damn hard to beat a supercomputer playing three dimensional mind chess.
~ DC
Times must be tough for Mr. Roberts if he's willing to work for $585/month
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3138847/Putin-s-secret-troll-fac...
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/24/russian-troll-factory-sued-...
Yes but just remember that Hillary and President Cocksucker have hundreds of thousand of followers on twitter and Facebook so it all evens out.
Does the State Department pay you in Hot Pockets?
The "Western World" of today is no different than the now defunct Soviet Union: same blanket of lies on all mainstream media channels, same rotten corruption at all levels of federal and local government, same lack of authentic values among its population, same police state ready to spy on even your most common activities. Everybody is now forced to live a double life: an "official" one, as seen on TV, where the wrong word or symbol could render you jobless or worse, and the real one which happens in the streets, the one that nobody talks about... As the French would say " Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose"...
the same people who run the usa show ran the soviet show. that is why it looks the same.
Bingo!!! +1000
Absolutely. The banksters finance them all; playing one against each other for obscene profits. It'd be a great job to work for these sociopaths, except you'd have abandon being a human being with a conscience or empathy. They're "dead" to the world with their lyin' and stealin' from family, friends, neighbors, and their fellow countrymen. There's always been people like that. What gets me is that sooo many people do business with these sociopaths. I don't get it. Maybe because I simply don't like being lied-to or stolen-from on a daily basis.
Sorry, the damn ad took over my computer for awhile.
I remember around 2008 or even earlier thinking that we were headed down the same path of the imploding USSR.
Each day reinforces that vision.
The "Western World" of today is no different than the now defunct Soviet Union:
To some degree your statement is accurate. The main difference is the old USSR was really in your face about their totalitarianism while the "new" western form of fascism is totally based on obfuscation and lies - i.e. they want to make you believe you are "free" and live in a "democracy" all the while they have a boot firmly fixed to the back of your neck. Look at the treatment of demonstrators at any large gathering in the USA for an example of the false paradigm of the "right to assemble to express your grievances against the government". What BS!! If TPTB don't want people to express views contrary to what they want it ain't gonna happen . . . .
the common thread are the neoconutz and who runs the neonutz? get rid of them and the world becomes a peaceful place again. all the pain will be worth a russia/china/brics takedown of the usa. as an old man with nothing left to lose i would love to go duck hunting for the quacks that run the show when the season begins.
Neococonutz - Breakfast of Psychopaths...
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You provide the blind. .. I’ll bring the decoys and retriever.
To hell with bag limits.
~ DC
truth is what people want to hear. america is the new global empire, you dont want to hear that.
Looking for truth in all the wrong places......
heaven & earth will prevail
Try Heaven and Hell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoyaTGHweAo
They say that life's a carousel
Spinning fast, you've got to ride it well
The world is full of Kings and Queens
Who blind your eyes and steal your dreams
It's Heaven and Hell, oh well
And they'll tell you black is really white
The moon is just the sun at night
And when you walk in golden halls
You get to keep the gold that falls
It's Heaven and Hell, oh no!
Fool, fool!
You've got to bleed for the dancer!
Fool, fool!
Look for the answer!
Fool, fool, fool!
1984 version, philadelphia spectrum (vinnie appice, drums; jimmy bain, bass; vivian campbell, guitar): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpxK1DBP3xA
2005 version, london (simon wright, drums; rudy sarzo, bass; doug aldrich, guitar): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_G6NtIVZhRE
"Now"
Life Call Commercial "I've fallen and I can't get up!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQlpDiXPZHQ (1:00)
Eric the communist fuck rasit Holder just went to work for JPM to the tune of about 77 million USD. That is all the truth you need to know.