It's really simple Ms. When you want to screw the middle class with obamacare, the details like State/Nation/clear language don't matter.
But when you want to screw the middle class by letting illegals vote, every line must be perfect, consistent, and beyond reproach. See the trend line;)
GOP leaders told Bush that his hardcore push to renew the more onerous provisions of the Patriot Act could further alienate conservatives still mad at the President from his botched attempt to nominate White House Counsel Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court.
"I don't give a goddamn," Bush retorted. "I'm the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way."
"Mr. President," one aide in the meeting said. "There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution."
"Stop throwing the Constitution in my face," Bush screamed back. "It's just a goddamned piece of paper!"
The war on terror was staged. The reason he threatened everyone is because he is a conspiritor to mass murder. These individuals will rarely give a shit what you say and do let alone what rights you think you have.
You mean the never ending global war on terror? Your comment does not say "what war" you are talking about.
In terms of it didnt really happen.....its an on going NEVER ENDING global war against a tactic and strategy known as terror. Identical to the Christian never ending global war against a tactic and strategy known as evil. Because it is never ending it will always "happen" for ever. Just ask the devil.
It wasnt really a war? Was the cold war really a war? War on drugs? War on poverty? War on war?
Relying on those hurt and PAID for being involved like the US military for example is like asking the wives of the mafia if their husbands were faking something.
Just simply verify any of the supposed debris from anywhere on 9-11. Each 727 and 767 has over 3 million titanium time stamped parts. Shouldnt be too hard for the disabled Vets to get that permission?
v. staged, stag·ing, stag·es
v.tr.
1.
a. To exhibit or present to an audience: stage a boxing match.
b. To prepare (a house) for sale by altering its appearance.
2. To produce or direct (a theatrical performance).
3. To arrange and carry out: stage an invasion.
1. no doubt that this conversation took place, the fact that there was a record of it and it is public knowledge tells me more about the current administration than Bush's since you would be in jail under Obama.
2. The fact that Bush had aides that would speak out and not be banished is another interesting note, everyone in the white house currently has the mentality of Bush, (does that comfort or dismay you?)
They should have written in the Constitutional that before the US goes to war based on commercial plane crashes, that we physically verify the debris by ID numbers BEFORE killing millions of people in a never ending global war based on religious hatred.
You do know that the Bill of Rights was only added after the Second Constitution was ratified (what the ignorant call "THE" Constitution. The first being the Articles of Confederation).
And the reason WHY there was a Bill of Rights added to the Second Constitution was that the Federalists ( Washington, Adams, Madison, etc.) had the votes in the States to pass the Second Constitution thus stripping states of their rights afforded to them in the Articles of Confederation (the FIRST constitution). In other words....a power CENTRAL government would rule the day because of the Second Constitution. ANTI-Federalists (Jefferson, Patrick Henry, Madison, etc.) would not accept this and thus to throw a bone to "States Rights" zealots, they allowed the Bill of Rights to be added.
But make no mistake, the die was forever cast for a strong Centralized, Federal Government at the Ratification of the Second Constitution. So....don't make the mistake of diefying the Bill of Rights. It was just there to placate the Anti-Federalists so they would not conspire to seperate from the union 75 years ahead of when they finally did.
George W. Bush pruportedly said, "The Constitution is nothing but a Goddamn piece of paper". Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. But the Federal Government, including both sides of Congress and the Supreme Court ALL agree that the Bill of Rights is "nothing but a Goddamn piece of paper."
Because it was only added to appease the Anti-Federalists. And they stupidly took the bait. And the Federals sealed the deal at Appomattox Courthouse April 9, 1865. After the Supreme Court allowed corporations to be considered "persons" in 1886, allowed the Federal government to steal people's income in 1913 and to enact the Federal Reserve Act thus removing unconstitutionally the defined purpose of Congress to mint money and set the value of, in the same year, how can ANY of you be surprised or even dissapointed in what the court did this last week with Obamacare and Legalized Homo Butt-Sex ?
Not to mention, not a peep about Congress giving the Executive Branch carte blanche with TPP, or what I like to call the last leg of the New World Order?
The Bill of Rights. LOL !!! But hey....don't despair. I've heard we're having one of those swell Presidential elections again next year. I'm sure that will fix everything. LOL !!
There has never been a better time to be a flag burning, trans-sexual, hermaphroditic, muslim hating, bitcoin owner in history. Thank you jesus for blessing me with the abilty to be gay for god.
lol, so its “gay marriage that signaled the rule of law is dead”, obviously you have been asleep or drugged out for the past 200 years. Mass immigration, support for fascist Israel, assassination of Iran's leader, the destruction of South American governments, the Korean war, the Iraq war, 9/11, ISIS, thieves on Wall Street...but for you its gay American men and women having the rights as your bigoted self, THAT is what signals the end for you? What YOU illustrate is the reason why America IS losing its way, selfish bigots who place ignorance and hate above the rights of anyone else. You exemplify the GW Bush School of empathy, good work, you deserve the America you are creating.
No dipshit, just another plank in the NZWO that devalues everything in our past and the rewriting of history. Nobody gives a shite if 2 guys want to get married, it's the MSM total over the top celebration. I'm sure you r for someone's right to fly the Confederate flag, right?
Every time ZH publishes bullshit like this I think ZH is a member of the KKK. The clan is planning to protest that they can't force the government to fly their racist flag on government property. Will ZH lead the protest?
Does the constitution include a 14th amendment? Should the constitutional right to equality under law be ignored or repealed? To paraphrase Scalia, Alito, Thomas and Roberts, if we treated you unequally in the past, then it must be ok now - fuck the constitutional guarantee of equal rights under law.
Typical on-line bullies...If you go to "liberal sites", you see the same thing, and both think they are right, but in reality they are opposite sides of the same coin, both part of the problem. Group think and identity politics, they look at the person not the validity of the message. They have becomes the tool of the powers that be, divined and conquered.
lol, look up the word "fascist", you might find you are dangerously close to its definition. And to be clear, the "truth" is not a popularity contest, in fact, going against group think is most often to route to salvation, and the truth. George Bush was elected twice, so you are in great company.
And by the way, please don't vote this comment "UP", on a site full of fascists, that last thing on want is validation.
The 14th Amendment did not "Change" anything about the Constitution, nor did it add any "new rights", it was instituted to make sure that the states abided by the Bill of rights w/ respect to newly freed slaves--- FACT
You law rule makers immediately following 9-11 imposed a "NO law suit" moritorium against Saudi Arabia for over 1 full year. No question could be asked legally, No lawsuits of anykind could be filed, and nothing could be examined. You need to rethink your "rule of law" as some kind of savior for the good and kind. Once you own the legal system you can make any rule you want.
The Cartoon refers to SCOTUS simply ignoring the wording of the Constitution and inserting their own liberal political spin. I'm not sure where you came up with the Klan comparison by I do note this.
Every troll on this site seems to have been here less than one year. If you don't like this "bullshit" by all means- gtfo of here.
I heard this exact same logic applied when someone wanted to physically verify the WMDs in Iraq. "OHHHH there there all right and if you dont like the US killing millions based on those WMDs then get out of the US".
“Liberal spin”, oh yes, considering corporations people is SOOOO Liberal, as was limiting the President’s ability to control emissions from power plants.
The Supreme Court is NOT “liberal”, it is corporate, but the fact that you see granting equal rights to your fellow Americans as “liberal” means you are not a conservative, but a fascist.
Hey nevertheless. You are not off to a great start here at ZH from what I have seen. Did you read the site at all before you decided to join or are you just an asshole? Here is a heads up for you, you don't go trashing the elder members unless you want a fight because that is what you will get and you will not win. If you disagree with an older member then present your case with some respect and you will earn respect in turn.
You made another post on this thread which I found questionable as well so let me clarify a little for you. We are cynical. There is no irrational exuberance on ZeroHedge. One thing we do well is satire and sarcasm and many folks here have their own style in how they do it. Dave Chappelle had some good stuff and I want you to watch "The Black White Supremecist". That was an awesome skit but you can't do that skit today. There are a lot of things you can't do today for fear of offending someone but some of us do want to offend some of the people who made things this way. It is not race, it is not religion and it is not political, it is just that some people are fucking assholes and you meet them everyday.
Double speak bullshit. I will always trash an elder. These same elders staged the plane crashes on 9-11, staged pearl harbor, slaughtered a siting president. Elders are the first people we need to exterminate. In terms of being an asshole you threaten this person and declare they will not win....though chose your words wisely. Double speak.
In terms of respect...go fuck yourself. Its having 'respect' for mass murderers that have kept them in power for thousands of years. Stop respecting and start verifying. Remember...Bill Cosby was one of the MOST respected people on earth. Hitler was Time's "Man of the Year". Lance Armstrong won 7 Tours honestly.
It seems like you need to speak for the other and get very offended when someone comments to him/her.
Not one issue directed to nevertheless was addressed in your reply, but you seem to be projecting quite a bit. I saw no doublespeak, just some real advice.
You will always trash an elder huh? Bring it, but you will need to up your game a bit as your posts are a little light in logic and sequence. You say the ZH elders (from context) staged 9-11; you are bat shit crazy.
You post the need to exterminate (like murder) elders. You want respect, or at least a voice but anyone who does not agree with YOU can fuck off, die, or is racist or homo-phobic. That's a great touch...
I have more I'd like to say here but I seriously don't have the time.
Just asking that can have someone labeled as bat shit crazy. In terms of logic and sequence have you verified one single piece of debris from the planes of 9-11 yet? Nope. Though ad hominems are all you got because you have so very little time.
In terms of respect.....Bill Cosby was once the most respected man in the US. Respect is bullshit.
Ohhh I thought you had no time. Yet here you are. That is double speak. "I have no time, though I have lots of time".
Just to clarify since you are setting me up for a murder investigation, the "elders" is anyone of old power and authority simply because "they have been around the longest". These types of political, military, and religious leaders have staged the deaths of millions of people based on lies. Clearly you would never allow mass murderers to be harmed?
I have a job, it demands my time; it's not double speak, it's called responsibility.
I have time now, but will wait for you to address other previous questions before chasing another rabbit.
You set yourself up (the elimination/murder thing), advocating it, and still doing the same. Don't do or say things and not own up to it. Good luck with that.
I'll come back if I damn well feel like it. Chances are though that you really have nothing else to say but trying to stir up crap. Shame, thought I might have a good fight here. I'm not going to have the battle of the wits with un unarmed fool.
Once again a battle reference. In terms of advocating violence, just pretend im talking about muslim Saudi Arabian terrorists aboard planes. In that since Im sure you would advocate killing millions just like the US government and miltary do. Correct?
Your job, let me guess, is as a college professor who teaches logic and philosophy? Correct again? Sad that at your job you focus on website forums looking for people to fight with. Let guess again....you are still a professor? Correct? Hey, maybe a professor trained by the military? Correct again?
Your double speak and lack of time have now transfered my attention to others who are not looking to fight or go to war.
You have now agreed that people or elders who stage war and kill millions should not be harmed. Nuff said.
ahhhh Mr control freak wants his questions answered before anything can ever move forward. So....all you ever need to do is ask an unanswerable question that no human on earth can answer and then therfore you "win the fight" that you were looking for. You trolls are a trip.
People generally converse in a sequence and staying on a general point . You seem completely incapable of this. Asking you to address an unknown point (like you're pretty new here), is a way to get to know where someone stands. Asking you to clarify on comments does not make me a controll freak. Your comment makes you appear to be a sniveling little pussy. If I'm wrong, I'm sorry, but I can only go by what I'm reading.
Here are the last two points, copied from the thread above so you can find it:
"Not one issue directed to nevertheless was addressed in your reply, but you seem to be projecting quite a bit. I saw no doublespeak, just some real advice.
You want respect, or at least a voice but anyone who does not agree with YOU can fuck off, die, or is racist or homo-phobic."
Only YOU can say that's unanswerable, if it even looks loopy to you. Your statements contradict themselves, and have a real stench of hypocrisy to them..
To call me a troll is funny, but since you don't know anything about those who contribute here, I'm not surprised really that you would use that. Fuck you I'm not. I could say the same about you, or combined with instability/harmful tendencies; trolling for patsies.
Who cares double speaking troll. No one cares about your feelings. Starting with calling someone an asshole says volumes about you. What a loser. Now get back to work and pay those delicious taxes.
You are another one who does not get it oknowwhat. When I say "elders" in that context, I mean ZeroHedge elders. You are not from here are you? I will clue you in, assholes come and go all of the time. You seem to be looking for a fight. OK fine.
What do you have? Do you have any debt? Be honest. Present anything you want as to why any of us should believe you.
"You are not from here"? This is a geographical exclusionary tactic. People use this technique to downgrade someones opinion. Another example is "You are not from NYC therefor you cant comment on 9-11".
"looking for a fight" is a military tactic. Militarys always need a fight. That is how they "win".
The last line about debt is what is known as a redirector. Rather than understanding the 9-11 was staged and the entire war on terror is a murderous fraud....they want to talk about "debt" or anything to change the subject.
Are you and blackchicken in a relationship? its ok if you are the Supreme Court said it was fine.
No one was treated unequally under the law. Like everyone else, homosexuals had the right to marry someone of the opposite gender -- hey and many did and no one tried to stop them. So there was no discrimination.
Funny how no one complained when the SCOTUS ruled that corporations were people, and developers could use eminent domain to force you to sell your property so they could build a shopping center, but allow a minority equal rights or have them rule on the side of a unpopular "tax"...
If you are referring to Kelo, it was immensely unpopular. And it was the progressive wing of the SCOTUS that made that majority ruling, so you know, hypocritical progressives didnt want to complain too much.
Exactly, I have been utterly disgusted by the homophobic responses to the granting of same sex marriage, on this site.
It’s simply shocking that people are so ignorant about such things as civil rights, especially when it’s not their own.
The judgement and condemnation about who someone wishes to share their life with, and subsequently receive equal treatment under the law, was annoying to say the least.
I read all the usual canards, “the next thing will be legalizing marriage between people and animals” and “polygamy”. I suggested to the bigots that they deal with those issues when they arise.
People don’t seem to be able to compartmentalize their anger, they feel helpless, so they take their frustrations out on those who they see as weak, they are indeed bullies. Pathetic and most counterproductive.
'Homo/bigotry/'phobias' aside for a moment: The issue underneath was never about marriage or equality to begin with. It was - and still is, about Forcing acceptance And compliance, via the court system, to a societal issue that many people find objectionable. And this does not even take into account the fact that the government - on any level, has No Business in the 'marriage' business, but that's a story for another time. When a grade-school age child is FORCED by State law to sit and be exposed to homosexual lifestyle instruction in a public school classrooom, don't even tell me about 'homophobia' and bigotry...
Exactly Consuelo, the best thing is to ignore the troll and let him go back to watching his Obozo Acceptance Speech he has on a loop. This guy makes me miss the "I made $9,000 last month" AH.
You've posted before about dealing with polygamy, bestiality, etc.
By what standard have you come to the conclusion that YOUR type of alternate marriage should be immediately accepted by everyone as sheer common sense, but any ALTERNATE marriage /lifestyle, (sound familiar?) will be a problem?
Waiting to see the homosexuals telling the Muslims that they can't have legal polygamy.
Of course given the promiscuity of many homosexuals, they'll probably want polygamy also. Though whereas Muslims will set the limit at 4, for homosexuals the sky's the limit.
The Confederate Flag is the first to go; but the time will come when the US Flag will also be banned since it is offensive to Native Americans and all the other 3rd world people whom we have offended in more ways than can possibly be described. All symbols of European culture will have to go.
Didnt you hear that if you ban the confederate flag it will end all racisim as we know it?! And all peoples everywhere will live in perfect peace and harmony because of a flag removal!!! Dogs and cats will become friends because of a flag pole change.
They opened up the memory hole, a dark abyss from which no truth can escape. Let's see what the odds makers bet on next to be sucked in over the political event horizon:
Since the meaning of the US flag is unrecognizable to me anymore, I think its demise would be the most honest and respectful action that could be taken.
Out in SoCal Riverside University, over 60 professors signed a petition banning the US Flag as racist. This is what our children are learning and at the end of the day that what this is all about, Gay Marriage is Normal, maybe even better than traditional marriage.
I gotta get me one of those flags. So I can teach my kids true history, because next they'll remove the Civil War from the textbooks. You know, because it offends some people, like there are any still alive today.
When dumb white southerners stop watching SEC NCAA sports and stop idolizing trayvons playing football, basketball and other shit then I will think whites are serious.
The stupid idolatry at places like U of AL, Clmson, U of GA, any TX u, and other university by white males is laughable. Dumb sheep. They cheer on their serfdom and enslavement. Dumb fux.
Let's not forget the NFL and NBA, in fact just about any organized sport. And stop buying massive amounts of crap for massive amounts of money and debt for xmas, valentines day, and birthdays. It's all part of the same herding scheme. We have stopped.
Don't let that stop you. Use your Noggin and 1st Amendment. E.g.
1. Fly the US flag UPSIDE DOWN, to show its Distressed State. Perfectly legal, and creates Buzz!
2. Fly the Israeli or Fascist flag, with US flag below it. Ziocons won't dare give this air time, but it sends a message, and gets people talking. You could even fly the US flag upside down, for added emphasis. And fly it on your p/u truck, driving down a busy Freeway (for max public exposure in short time), to get people thinking "Hmmm..."
3. Fly an earlier version of the US flag. E.g. the one from 1776.
p.s. Fuck you, Neo-Feudal Globalist Neocons/Ziocons! There's still 95% of us (not including the GayBLTs), and 5% of you (including the GayBLTs).
"The Constitution is a remarkably clearly worded document and the fact is, if it's not in the Constitution they're just making it up." -- Justice Clarence Thomas
So in the past few years we have learned that the NSA is spying on all of us, the IRS goes after groups for political reasons and willfully destroys evidence even after they were prohibited from doing so, the Supreme Court debates what the meaning of the word "is" is like a former president, cops shoot black people for no good reason, people are fined for not purchasing healthcare insurance and have their bank accounts emptied by the government without due process if they appear suspicious, NYC can tell landlords that they can't raise the rents on apartments even as utilities maintenance and taxes skyrocket, the Fed refuses to be audited or comply with information requests, and we are told that it is important to have our purchasing power destroyed by minimally 2% inflation, all calculated by a measure that keeps changing to understate inflation, etc, etc, etc.
So much for the framer's desire for limited government and maximum liberty. Kind of crapped all over that.
Yet so many people still believe in the myth of government.
Conversation I had recently:
Group: "What do you think the proper role of government is?"
Me: "They should just keep the roads and the courts open, nothing more." (in the domestic sense, was not addressing foreign policy)
Group: <collective gasp> "What do you mean... they can't even keep the roads in good repair!"
Me: <SMH>
The freudian slip is in the subtext here: the group all agreed that government couldn't even keep the roads in good repair, so how could they possibly be expected to do next to nothing right? The group basically made my case for me, and still does not realize it, lesson lost.
What you described is NOTHING to what the US government and military are doing on a daily basis. All you mentioned were standard control tactics. These people have murdered MILLIONS based on staged lies. Taxing, killing, and spying is nothing to these creatures.
The entire war on terror came about because of plane crashes without ONE single piece being physically verified. The things you described are almost irrelevant to what these elites are doing daily.
How do you need verfication of the WMD's in Iraq? Didnt you see the photos of the trucks that drove them? Didnt you see all the evidence from Colin Powell?
Oh shut up, reading the hate spewed by the bigots here who have a problem with gay Americans getting equal rights, obviously it is YOUR ilk that has a problem with the Constitution.
The medication ad hominem doesnt work anymore. Almost 80 million americans are on some form of "med". Try something else that makes since as an insult. It like trying to insult someone because they drive a car. Its silly and doesnt do anything.
You do understand, you comment EXEMPLIFIES George Orwell’s thesis, up is down, black is white, and “granting US citizens rights, is tyranny”. You want to see what a real fascist looks like, look in the mirror.
And you sheeple obey them.
Hey I thought it was whiter and multi-plied
Nah, used too many times already.
It's really simple Ms. When you want to screw the middle class with obamacare, the details like State/Nation/clear language don't matter.
But when you want to screw the middle class by letting illegals vote, every line must be perfect, consistent, and beyond reproach. See the trend line;)
Whaddaya mean? it has 2000 pages of clear language!
The war on terror was staged. The reason he threatened everyone is because he is a conspiritor to mass murder. These individuals will rarely give a shit what you say and do let alone what rights you think you have.
"The war was staged"
It didn't really happen?
It wasn't really a war?
What next?
Are you going to claim that all the disabled vets are just faking it?
You mean the never ending global war on terror? Your comment does not say "what war" you are talking about.
In terms of it didnt really happen.....its an on going NEVER ENDING global war against a tactic and strategy known as terror. Identical to the Christian never ending global war against a tactic and strategy known as evil. Because it is never ending it will always "happen" for ever. Just ask the devil.
It wasnt really a war? Was the cold war really a war? War on drugs? War on poverty? War on war?
Relying on those hurt and PAID for being involved like the US military for example is like asking the wives of the mafia if their husbands were faking something.
Just simply verify any of the supposed debris from anywhere on 9-11. Each 727 and 767 has over 3 million titanium time stamped parts. Shouldnt be too hard for the disabled Vets to get that permission?
The FAA has warehouses full of those parts.
They can show you where they came from, where they were made, and they can tell you every person who ever touched any one of those parts.
It was an appropriate use of staged.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/stage
v. staged, stag·ing, stag·es
v.tr.
1.
a. To exhibit or present to an audience: stage a boxing match.
b. To prepare (a house) for sale by altering its appearance.
2. To produce or direct (a theatrical performance).
3. To arrange and carry out: stage an invasion.
Monofthenorth
Just a couple observations:
1. no doubt that this conversation took place, the fact that there was a record of it and it is public knowledge tells me more about the current administration than Bush's since you would be in jail under Obama.
2. The fact that Bush had aides that would speak out and not be banished is another interesting note, everyone in the white house currently has the mentality of Bush, (does that comfort or dismay you?)
3. Bush is not President
It appears that this exchange with Bush is false:
http://www.factcheck.org/2007/12/bush-the-constitution-a-goddamned-piece...
Wishful thinking by the progressive turd left, with never ever a cite, you'll notice.
The truth is, Bush only wiped his ass with the Constitution during Skull and Bones ceremonies.
I never remember surrendering consent to be governed in the first place... I was born a slave to the system, never had a choice really.
I learned a few things though, I read a lot and I am not afraid.
I see the game for what it is.
Fleecing the sheeple can be very profitable.
#MoneyWins #GayWashing
They should have written in the Constitutional that before the US goes to war based on commercial plane crashes, that we physically verify the debris by ID numbers BEFORE killing millions of people in a never ending global war based on religious hatred.
Don't forget the Bill of Rights
Anything at all left on it? The right to remain silent?
**AHEM**
You do know that the Bill of Rights was only added after the Second Constitution was ratified (what the ignorant call "THE" Constitution. The first being the Articles of Confederation).
And the reason WHY there was a Bill of Rights added to the Second Constitution was that the Federalists ( Washington, Adams, Madison, etc.) had the votes in the States to pass the Second Constitution thus stripping states of their rights afforded to them in the Articles of Confederation (the FIRST constitution). In other words....a power CENTRAL government would rule the day because of the Second Constitution. ANTI-Federalists (Jefferson, Patrick Henry, Madison, etc.) would not accept this and thus to throw a bone to "States Rights" zealots, they allowed the Bill of Rights to be added.
But make no mistake, the die was forever cast for a strong Centralized, Federal Government at the Ratification of the Second Constitution. So....don't make the mistake of diefying the Bill of Rights. It was just there to placate the Anti-Federalists so they would not conspire to seperate from the union 75 years ahead of when they finally did.
George W. Bush pruportedly said, "The Constitution is nothing but a Goddamn piece of paper". Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. But the Federal Government, including both sides of Congress and the Supreme Court ALL agree that the Bill of Rights is "nothing but a Goddamn piece of paper."
Because it was only added to appease the Anti-Federalists. And they stupidly took the bait. And the Federals sealed the deal at Appomattox Courthouse April 9, 1865. After the Supreme Court allowed corporations to be considered "persons" in 1886, allowed the Federal government to steal people's income in 1913 and to enact the Federal Reserve Act thus removing unconstitutionally the defined purpose of Congress to mint money and set the value of, in the same year, how can ANY of you be surprised or even dissapointed in what the court did this last week with Obamacare and Legalized Homo Butt-Sex ?
Not to mention, not a peep about Congress giving the Executive Branch carte blanche with TPP, or what I like to call the last leg of the New World Order?
The Bill of Rights. LOL !!! But hey....don't despair. I've heard we're having one of those swell Presidential elections again next year. I'm sure that will fix everything. LOL !!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxsQ7jJJcEA
yeaaa... about that
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/15787-supreme-cou...
No more right to remain silent.
"In one day the Supreme Court of the United States now dispenses with a right defended by Cicero over 2,000 years ago."
Wow.....the Supremes and Obama really wrapping up the end of the Constitutional Republic of America.
Mark it on your calendar folks. June 2015. The Iron Curtain falls on America. R.I.P.
There has never been a better time to be a flag burning, trans-sexual, hermaphroditic, muslim hating, bitcoin owner in history. Thank you jesus for blessing me with the abilty to be gay for god.
We the sheeple.
Supreme Court? i thoughts the bankers make the laws.
...and the Supremes are their tea boys.
Should read, We the kleptocrats and Jew Banksters...
They can still whittle it down to just "We the law"
So does TOTUS...he has a pen!
and he has a prick,
but I doubt he gets much joy out of that either.
Bottoms just do as they are told.
It's a technicality, the Bankers are the Supreme Court.
The ZWO bankster cabal and their neocon New Bolshevik PNAC revolutionaries hate the US constitution.
That's why they aren't going by it any more.
Sooner or later, they'll quietly dismiss it when the idiocracy is preoccupied with a new new crisis of their making to manufacture the consent.
Fuck National Sodomy and your SCOTUS care . The rule of law is dead.
"Land of the Fees and home of the Gays...."
I am not gay anymore-----David Bowie
"I'm not gay, my boyfriend is." David Bowie
You mean " The land of fag's and fairys"
Gen. McBrayer discusses how valuable homosexuals are, and why we must never put their lives at risk by allowing them in the military.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aotlEpmAFVQ
You must embrace the sodomy! Your voice and your farts will be silenced!
lol, so its “gay marriage that signaled the rule of law is dead”, obviously you have been asleep or drugged out for the past 200 years. Mass immigration, support for fascist Israel, assassination of Iran's leader, the destruction of South American governments, the Korean war, the Iraq war, 9/11, ISIS, thieves on Wall Street...but for you its gay American men and women having the rights as your bigoted self, THAT is what signals the end for you? What YOU illustrate is the reason why America IS losing its way, selfish bigots who place ignorance and hate above the rights of anyone else. You exemplify the GW Bush School of empathy, good work, you deserve the America you are creating.
One positive about the new Amerika, there will be no closet in which you can return. Shirts and Skins pickup game like you could never imagine. :)
No dipshit, just another plank in the NZWO that devalues everything in our past and the rewriting of history. Nobody gives a shite if 2 guys want to get married, it's the MSM total over the top celebration. I'm sure you r for someone's right to fly the Confederate flag, right?
Every time ZH publishes bullshit like this I think ZH is a member of the KKK. The clan is planning to protest that they can't force the government to fly their racist flag on government property. Will ZH lead the protest?
Does the constitution include a 14th amendment? Should the constitutional right to equality under law be ignored or repealed? To paraphrase Scalia, Alito, Thomas and Roberts, if we treated you unequally in the past, then it must be ok now - fuck the constitutional guarantee of equal rights under law.
You should talk to your doctor about possibly adjusting your medication.
That might be the most milk toast drivel I've ever seen on this site in 5 years.
Conservative estimates are 75 million americans are on "some form" of medication. You are hardly using the ad hominem as intended. Try again.
BlackChicken? That sounds racist!!!! You should be deleted!
If you don't like the truth on ZH, get off! Troll.
Got it, we do not tolerate other points of view on this site.
Typical on-line bullies...If you go to "liberal sites", you see the same thing, and both think they are right, but in reality they are opposite sides of the same coin, both part of the problem. Group think and identity politics, they look at the person not the validity of the message. They have becomes the tool of the powers that be, divined and conquered.
"bullies?" What a disgusting worm.
lol, look up the word "fascist", you might find you are dangerously close to its definition. And to be clear, the "truth" is not a popularity contest, in fact, going against group think is most often to route to salvation, and the truth. George Bush was elected twice, so you are in great company.
And by the way, please don't vote this comment "UP", on a site full of fascists, that last thing on want is validation.
A troll is someone who is always at a website telling others who disagree to leave.
Those that adhere to the rule of law must be KKK? Nice work. What's your posion? Crack? Meth? Huffers? Speed balls? Crank? Oxy?
The rule of law is the rule of the 14th amendment.
Funny you should mention that. The 14th is always listed as "adopted", not ratified like all the others...,
because state legislatures in the North were sickened by the black mail involved, and they never got the required number to ratify it.
The 14th Amendment did not "Change" anything about the Constitution, nor did it add any "new rights", it was instituted to make sure that the states abided by the Bill of rights w/ respect to newly freed slaves--- FACT
You law rule makers immediately following 9-11 imposed a "NO law suit" moritorium against Saudi Arabia for over 1 full year. No question could be asked legally, No lawsuits of anykind could be filed, and nothing could be examined. You need to rethink your "rule of law" as some kind of savior for the good and kind. Once you own the legal system you can make any rule you want.
The Cartoon refers to SCOTUS simply ignoring the wording of the Constitution and inserting their own liberal political spin. I'm not sure where you came up with the Klan comparison by I do note this.
Every troll on this site seems to have been here less than one year. If you don't like this "bullshit" by all means- gtfo of here.
I heard this exact same logic applied when someone wanted to physically verify the WMDs in Iraq. "OHHHH there there all right and if you dont like the US killing millions based on those WMDs then get out of the US".
“Liberal spin”, oh yes, considering corporations people is SOOOO Liberal, as was limiting the President’s ability to control emissions from power plants.
The Supreme Court is NOT “liberal”, it is corporate, but the fact that you see granting equal rights to your fellow Americans as “liberal” means you are not a conservative, but a fascist.
Hey nevertheless. You are not off to a great start here at ZH from what I have seen. Did you read the site at all before you decided to join or are you just an asshole? Here is a heads up for you, you don't go trashing the elder members unless you want a fight because that is what you will get and you will not win. If you disagree with an older member then present your case with some respect and you will earn respect in turn.
You made another post on this thread which I found questionable as well so let me clarify a little for you. We are cynical. There is no irrational exuberance on ZeroHedge. One thing we do well is satire and sarcasm and many folks here have their own style in how they do it. Dave Chappelle had some good stuff and I want you to watch "The Black White Supremecist". That was an awesome skit but you can't do that skit today. There are a lot of things you can't do today for fear of offending someone but some of us do want to offend some of the people who made things this way. It is not race, it is not religion and it is not political, it is just that some people are fucking assholes and you meet them everyday.
Choose your words wisely nevertheless.
Double speak bullshit. I will always trash an elder. These same elders staged the plane crashes on 9-11, staged pearl harbor, slaughtered a siting president. Elders are the first people we need to exterminate. In terms of being an asshole you threaten this person and declare they will not win....though chose your words wisely. Double speak.
In terms of respect...go fuck yourself. Its having 'respect' for mass murderers that have kept them in power for thousands of years. Stop respecting and start verifying. Remember...Bill Cosby was one of the MOST respected people on earth. Hitler was Time's "Man of the Year". Lance Armstrong won 7 Tours honestly.
Are you and nevertheless in a "relationship"?
It seems like you need to speak for the other and get very offended when someone comments to him/her.
Not one issue directed to nevertheless was addressed in your reply, but you seem to be projecting quite a bit. I saw no doublespeak, just some real advice.
You will always trash an elder huh? Bring it, but you will need to up your game a bit as your posts are a little light in logic and sequence. You say the ZH elders (from context) staged 9-11; you are bat shit crazy.
You post the need to exterminate (like murder) elders. You want respect, or at least a voice but anyone who does not agree with YOU can fuck off, die, or is racist or homo-phobic. That's a great touch...
I have more I'd like to say here but I seriously don't have the time.
Who cares. More double speak.
Let me ask....was 9-11 staged?
Just asking that can have someone labeled as bat shit crazy. In terms of logic and sequence have you verified one single piece of debris from the planes of 9-11 yet? Nope. Though ad hominems are all you got because you have so very little time.
In terms of respect.....Bill Cosby was once the most respected man in the US. Respect is bullshit.
Who cares ? That's how I feel trying to communicate with you. Try addressing the points and your own double speak
I bring up points and you dance around, change the subject, and evade with more accusations thrown in. Waste of time...
Still think we should be murdering our elders (from your words)?
Good luck to you...
Ohhh I thought you had no time. Yet here you are. That is double speak. "I have no time, though I have lots of time".
Just to clarify since you are setting me up for a murder investigation, the "elders" is anyone of old power and authority simply because "they have been around the longest". These types of political, military, and religious leaders have staged the deaths of millions of people based on lies. Clearly you would never allow mass murderers to be harmed?
Come back again mr/mrs no time.
Lol.
I have a job, it demands my time; it's not double speak, it's called responsibility.
I have time now, but will wait for you to address other previous questions before chasing another rabbit.
You set yourself up (the elimination/murder thing), advocating it, and still doing the same. Don't do or say things and not own up to it. Good luck with that.
I'll come back if I damn well feel like it. Chances are though that you really have nothing else to say but trying to stir up crap. Shame, thought I might have a good fight here. I'm not going to have the battle of the wits with un unarmed fool.
Once again a battle reference. In terms of advocating violence, just pretend im talking about muslim Saudi Arabian terrorists aboard planes. In that since Im sure you would advocate killing millions just like the US government and miltary do. Correct?
Your job, let me guess, is as a college professor who teaches logic and philosophy? Correct again? Sad that at your job you focus on website forums looking for people to fight with. Let guess again....you are still a professor? Correct? Hey, maybe a professor trained by the military? Correct again?
Your double speak and lack of time have now transfered my attention to others who are not looking to fight or go to war.
You have now agreed that people or elders who stage war and kill millions should not be harmed. Nuff said.
Don't put words in my mouth bitch.
Still can't address the original questions because you don't want to look like a bigger fool right?
ahhhh Mr control freak wants his questions answered before anything can ever move forward. So....all you ever need to do is ask an unanswerable question that no human on earth can answer and then therfore you "win the fight" that you were looking for. You trolls are a trip.
Wow... You are a genuine asshole.
People generally converse in a sequence and staying on a general point . You seem completely incapable of this. Asking you to address an unknown point (like you're pretty new here), is a way to get to know where someone stands. Asking you to clarify on comments does not make me a controll freak. Your comment makes you appear to be a sniveling little pussy. If I'm wrong, I'm sorry, but I can only go by what I'm reading.
Here are the last two points, copied from the thread above so you can find it:
"Not one issue directed to nevertheless was addressed in your reply, but you seem to be projecting quite a bit. I saw no doublespeak, just some real advice.
You want respect, or at least a voice but anyone who does not agree with YOU can fuck off, die, or is racist or homo-phobic."
Only YOU can say that's unanswerable, if it even looks loopy to you. Your statements contradict themselves, and have a real stench of hypocrisy to them..
To call me a troll is funny, but since you don't know anything about those who contribute here, I'm not surprised really that you would use that. Fuck you I'm not. I could say the same about you, or combined with instability/harmful tendencies; trolling for patsies.
Who cares double speaking troll. No one cares about your feelings. Starting with calling someone an asshole says volumes about you. What a loser. Now get back to work and pay those delicious taxes.
The loser/troll you see will be in your mirror whiny bitch.
Didn't ask anyone to care about my feelings idiot.
Makes it appear you can't hold a thought for a minute can you, or address your own contradictions. Truly sad...
Go ask your mom to heat up a hot pocket.
You are another one who does not get it oknowwhat. When I say "elders" in that context, I mean ZeroHedge elders. You are not from here are you? I will clue you in, assholes come and go all of the time. You seem to be looking for a fight. OK fine.
What do you have? Do you have any debt? Be honest. Present anything you want as to why any of us should believe you.
"You are not from here"? This is a geographical exclusionary tactic. People use this technique to downgrade someones opinion. Another example is "You are not from NYC therefor you cant comment on 9-11".
"looking for a fight" is a military tactic. Militarys always need a fight. That is how they "win".
The last line about debt is what is known as a redirector. Rather than understanding the 9-11 was staged and the entire war on terror is a murderous fraud....they want to talk about "debt" or anything to change the subject.
Are you and blackchicken in a relationship? its ok if you are the Supreme Court said it was fine.
Another new troll. You don't have to be here. Huffpo is always looking for pussies like you.
-an elder
A troll is someone who is always on a website telling others to leave.
jm
I've been trolling on ZH for years.
Most just choose to not talk to me.
GED on EBT?
No one was treated unequally under the law. Like everyone else, homosexuals had the right to marry someone of the opposite gender -- hey and many did and no one tried to stop them. So there was no discrimination.
It been We The Sheeplez for at least 100 years...
Funny how no one complained when the SCOTUS ruled that corporations were people, and developers could use eminent domain to force you to sell your property so they could build a shopping center, but allow a minority equal rights or have them rule on the side of a unpopular "tax"...
good one.
Nobody complained when the SCOTUS appointed George W. Bush.
Even third worlders have run-off elections.
Yeah I remember everyone on Zero Hedge being silent when that happened too.... Oh wait.....
We're doomed.
Where can we buy the new ISIS gold coin proof sets?
I got a buddy might go over and get some. If he brings them back, I'll set some aside for you.
Not sure if sarc
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If you are referring to Kelo, it was immensely unpopular. And it was the progressive wing of the SCOTUS that made that majority ruling, so you know, hypocritical progressives didnt want to complain too much.
Exactly, I have been utterly disgusted by the homophobic responses to the granting of same sex marriage, on this site.
It’s simply shocking that people are so ignorant about such things as civil rights, especially when it’s not their own.
The judgement and condemnation about who someone wishes to share their life with, and subsequently receive equal treatment under the law, was annoying to say the least.
I read all the usual canards, “the next thing will be legalizing marriage between people and animals” and “polygamy”. I suggested to the bigots that they deal with those issues when they arise.
People don’t seem to be able to compartmentalize their anger, they feel helpless, so they take their frustrations out on those who they see as weak, they are indeed bullies. Pathetic and most counterproductive.
'Homo/bigotry/'phobias' aside for a moment: The issue underneath was never about marriage or equality to begin with. It was - and still is, about Forcing acceptance And compliance, via the court system, to a societal issue that many people find objectionable. And this does not even take into account the fact that the government - on any level, has No Business in the 'marriage' business, but that's a story for another time. When a grade-school age child is FORCED by State law to sit and be exposed to homosexual lifestyle instruction in a public school classrooom, don't even tell me about 'homophobia' and bigotry...
Exactly Consuelo, the best thing is to ignore the troll and let him go back to watching his Obozo Acceptance Speech he has on a loop. This guy makes me miss the "I made $9,000 last month" AH.
It's not homophobia if they really are out to bugger you.
Marriage is a religious institution.
Governments shall make no law with respect to religion.
Butt fuck much ?
Nah, he's a I-95 , praying at the Altar of the rest stop glory hole type of pervert.
Fuck off troll.
"Deal with those issues when they arise"
So, you're admitting they will arise now sinse we have let the homosexual cat out of the bag?
Or, maybe it's just a cross dresing cat, maybe it only likes pussy?
Hey asshole, my goat and I are in love. You are the bigot.
@ Nevertheless
You've posted before about dealing with polygamy, bestiality, etc.
By what standard have you come to the conclusion that YOUR type of alternate marriage should be immediately accepted by everyone as sheer common sense, but any ALTERNATE marriage /lifestyle, (sound familiar?) will be a problem?
Waiting to see the homosexuals telling the Muslims that they can't have legal polygamy.
Of course given the promiscuity of many homosexuals, they'll probably want polygamy also. Though whereas Muslims will set the limit at 4, for homosexuals the sky's the limit.
Welcome to fightclub, noobie.
Your starting statement was false. There were plenty of complaints to both those rulings. So the rest of your assertion is nonsense.
The Confederate Flag is the first to go; but the time will come when the US Flag will also be banned since it is offensive to Native Americans and all the other 3rd world people whom we have offended in more ways than can possibly be described. All symbols of European culture will have to go.
sounds about right
Didnt you hear that if you ban the confederate flag it will end all racisim as we know it?! And all peoples everywhere will live in perfect peace and harmony because of a flag removal!!! Dogs and cats will become friends because of a flag pole change.
It's removal is only encouraging the black head hunters...the truly racist tribe.
Some folks thought that voting for the mulatto would have done all that
True, and we should start a movement to see to it that Mexico goes back to the Aztecs as well.
to be replaced by the rainbow flag
Or the black flag of jihad.
They opened up the memory hole, a dark abyss from which no truth can escape. Let's see what the odds makers bet on next to be sucked in over the political event horizon:
1. Thomas Jefferson - 3 to 1
2. Andrew Jackson - 5 to 1
3. General Robert E. Lee - 7 to 1
Our next flag should have a drone on it !
Since the meaning of the US flag is unrecognizable to me anymore, I think its demise would be the most honest and respectful action that could be taken.
Out in SoCal Riverside University, over 60 professors signed a petition banning the US Flag as racist. This is what our children are learning and at the end of the day that what this is all about, Gay Marriage is Normal, maybe even better than traditional marriage.
It appears that there's a lot more left of it than I thought.
SCOTUS only enforces what the banksters and TPTB want made into law.
The removal of the Confederate Flag affirms the waning power. Curtains.
I gotta get me one of those flags. So I can teach my kids true history, because next they'll remove the Civil War from the textbooks. You know, because it offends some people, like there are any still alive today.
When dumb white southerners stop watching SEC NCAA sports and stop idolizing trayvons playing football, basketball and other shit then I will think whites are serious.
The stupid idolatry at places like U of AL, Clmson, U of GA, any TX u, and other university by white males is laughable. Dumb sheep. They cheer on their serfdom and enslavement. Dumb fux.
Let's not forget the NFL and NBA, in fact just about any organized sport. And stop buying massive amounts of crap for massive amounts of money and debt for xmas, valentines day, and birthdays. It's all part of the same herding scheme. We have stopped.
Ahhhh, you've finally nailed it.
professional sports OF ANYKIND are a distraction and were designed as such.
If you're watching psorts, you're NOT watching your elected representatives.
its all by design.
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Squid
Don't let that stop you. Use your Noggin and 1st Amendment. E.g.
1. Fly the US flag UPSIDE DOWN, to show its Distressed State. Perfectly legal, and creates Buzz!
2. Fly the Israeli or Fascist flag, with US flag below it. Ziocons won't dare give this air time, but it sends a message, and gets people talking. You could even fly the US flag upside down, for added emphasis. And fly it on your p/u truck, driving down a busy Freeway (for max public exposure in short time), to get people thinking "Hmmm..."
3. Fly an earlier version of the US flag. E.g. the one from 1776.
p.s. Fuck you, Neo-Feudal Globalist Neocons/Ziocons! There's still 95% of us (not including the GayBLTs), and 5% of you (including the GayBLTs).
It's coytins for you, Mugsy, coytins!
"The Constitution is a remarkably clearly worded document and the fact is, if it's not in the Constitution they're just making it up." -- Justice Clarence Thomas
Thomas actually has an opinion about something???
You must be a YahooOoze drone. Have you ever read a court decision, any court decision? Considering your piss ant burp, I must assume no.
So in the past few years we have learned that the NSA is spying on all of us, the IRS goes after groups for political reasons and willfully destroys evidence even after they were prohibited from doing so, the Supreme Court debates what the meaning of the word "is" is like a former president, cops shoot black people for no good reason, people are fined for not purchasing healthcare insurance and have their bank accounts emptied by the government without due process if they appear suspicious, NYC can tell landlords that they can't raise the rents on apartments even as utilities maintenance and taxes skyrocket, the Fed refuses to be audited or comply with information requests, and we are told that it is important to have our purchasing power destroyed by minimally 2% inflation, all calculated by a measure that keeps changing to understate inflation, etc, etc, etc.
So much for the framer's desire for limited government and maximum liberty. Kind of crapped all over that.
Yet so many people still believe in the myth of government.
Conversation I had recently:
Group: "What do you think the proper role of government is?"
Me: "They should just keep the roads and the courts open, nothing more." (in the domestic sense, was not addressing foreign policy)
Group: <collective gasp> "What do you mean... they can't even keep the roads in good repair!"
Me: <SMH>
The freudian slip is in the subtext here: the group all agreed that government couldn't even keep the roads in good repair, so how could they possibly be expected to do next to nothing right? The group basically made my case for me, and still does not realize it, lesson lost.
The job of government is to close the roads so they can be repaired, constructed, and maintained safely and efficiently.
I personally would rather that they tear up all the roads, because I don't like traffic, visitors, or any strangers.
I run studded snow tires year round, just to do my little part.
What you described is NOTHING to what the US government and military are doing on a daily basis. All you mentioned were standard control tactics. These people have murdered MILLIONS based on staged lies. Taxing, killing, and spying is nothing to these creatures.
The entire war on terror came about because of plane crashes without ONE single piece being physically verified. The things you described are almost irrelevant to what these elites are doing daily.
How do you need verification?
Didn't you see the towers collapse?
How do you need verfication of the WMD's in Iraq? Didnt you see the photos of the trucks that drove them? Didnt you see all the evidence from Colin Powell?
I didn't need any additional verification.
We had the receipts.
duplicate
Discussed this with many liberals.
The liberals think the constitution is dated and should be abolished.
Welcome to the newer age of tyranny!!
Oh shut up, reading the hate spewed by the bigots here who have a problem with gay Americans getting equal rights, obviously it is YOUR ilk that has a problem with the Constitution.
Someday you'll reach your maximum benefit to society, as cordwood. You need a boot heel on your neck. Let's not forget your family either. ;0
what ever meds they have you on sister, I suggest they up the dose.
Go fuck your sister, or whatever a foggot like you does.
The medication ad hominem doesnt work anymore. Almost 80 million americans are on some form of "med". Try something else that makes since as an insult. It like trying to insult someone because they drive a car. Its silly and doesnt do anything.
One week and 6 days a member. Which rest stop do you frequent? Gay marriage vows...
Ah, more bullying form a bigot, that is the best argument you can come up with, your a joke.
Suck black cack much? How tolerant of you.
Why the hell would gays want to get married?
As a group, they spent decades trying to be countercultural.
Now they want to settle down and get married?
Please explain the thought process.
You do understand, you comment EXEMPLIFIES George Orwell’s thesis, up is down, black is white, and “granting US citizens rights, is tyranny”. You want to see what a real fascist looks like, look in the mirror.
ZH trolls have really gone downhill. We deserve better here.
All the really good trolls have been re-assigned to the "Ban the Confederate Flag" project.
The thread is definitely a troll-rich environment. It's like they're coming out of the walls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJQ_7jKIm24
And trannies.