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Greek FinMin Lays Out 6 Reasons To Vote "No" In The Referendum
Did your country recently become the first developed nation in history to default to the IMF?
Are you worried your deposits will soon play a starring role in the blockbuster sequel to the Cyprus bail-in?
Or, finally, are you confused as to how you should vote in an unprecedented referendum which many say is effectively a decision between democratic rule and debt servitude?
Well, have no fear because Greek FinMin Yanis Varoufakis is here to help with 6 reasons why you should just say "no" to the troika...
- Negotiations have stalled because Greece’s creditors (a) refused to reduce our un-payable public debt and (b) insisted that it should be repaid ‘parametrically’ by the weakest members of our society, their children and their grandchildren.
- The IMF, the United States’ government, many other governments around the globe, and most independent economists believe — along with us — that the debt must be restructured.
- The Eurogroup had previously (November 2012) conceded that the debt ought to be restructured but is refusing to commit to a debt restructure
- Since the announcement of the referendum, official Europe has sent signals that they are ready to discuss debt restructuring. These signals show that official Europe too would vote NO on its own ‘final’ offer.
- Greece will stay in the euro. Deposits in Greece’s banks are safe. Creditors have chosen the strategy of blackmail based on bank closures. The current impasse is due to this choice by the creditors and not by the Greek government discontinuing the negotiations or any Greek thoughts of Grexit and devaluation. Greece’s place in the Eurozone and in the European Union is non-negotiable.
- The future demands a proud Greece within the Eurozone and at the heart of Europe. This future demands that Greeks say a big NO on Sunday, that we stay in the Euro Area, and that, with the power vested upon us by that NO, we renegotiate Greece’s public debt as well as the distribution of burdens between the haves and the have nots.
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Vote accordingly.
The #ultimatum to #Greece: #dimopsifisma #Greferendum #OXI #NO pic.twitter.com/MUcJjK8phr
— albist (@albist) July 1, 2015
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anti-Squid vote?
"Evaluation of public emplyees by external managers - layoffs"
This one is badly needed in the US.
And in corporate board rooms, as well.
Q: What do corporate boardrooms and corporate bedrooms have in common?
A: The only people getting screwed are not even there.
I wonder if at some point they'll realize the money that makes up their public debt never existed until they borrowed it.
Ha Ha. the graphic above looks like a new board game. Roll the dice, move your piece around the board.
to insure fairness....a team of obama and clinton staff will count the vote as a public service to the greek populace
"abolition of audits for tax evasion" that is one of them !
Greece = bag of rice
Ouija board.
Of course these Socialist parasites can remian on the Euro. In fact any country can decide to use the Euro or the USD as their currency. The key point is that they should receive no more subsidies from the rest of Europe. No ELA, no nothing! Then let the Marxists in Syriza figure out on their own how they want to finish destroying their country!
Yeah lets make sure the bankster parasites take everything from everybody instead!
Yeah lets make sure the bankster parasites take everything from everybody instead!
edit.... I guess it was worth repeating without even trying!
The seventh unwritten reason is that Merkel will not like a NO vote?
Nein . . . nein . . . nein!!!!
"Still, according to an ARD television poll, 68 per cent of Germans oppose a debt cut for Greece. And 61 per cent said that if Greece reneged on its international obligations — as the poll-leading Syriza party has threatened — it should leave the eurozone."
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/3a9de4de-a191-11e4-b176-00144feab7de.html
one every three germans is with the greek people
#7. Cuz fuck you, Malaka!!
They leave the people with no money for a week ,how do you think stupid people are going to vote , they will stay in the euro.
If Greece remains in arrears and still has to pay back the debt, then Idk, they seem screwed either way.
Debt is a powerful drug.
I get the feeling this vote will make the Troika very unhappy...good.....
Pretty amazing for a Socialist...we borrowed the money..now we dont want to pay it back....your rich...we want that money...lol...so typical of a Socialist...
are you at least going to acknowledge that 90%+ of what was loaned was fake invented currency digits?
its more like "we know you're inventing this from nothing, now share a bit"
to which the answer is "no man, is'real, you owe it to the world to pay it back for the rest of your lives, your children's lives, and your grandchildren's lives, if all goes proper for us"
The public must pay for odious loans arranged by TBTF banksters in connivance with corrupt politicians and Goldman Sachs ...
that opinion
so typical of the banksters' sychophants and admirers.
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http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/06/29/the-greek-debt-crisis-and-crashin...
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/07/01/wall-street-and-the-greek-financi...
Stated brilliantly..... and scream out "Socialists!" as if it's all the fault of the public that had no part in what these conniving banksters and former politicians were doing to them, their children and future generations in turning them all into debt slaves.
America celebrates its Independence Day on July 4. It may turn out that July 5 will have a similar meaning for the Grecian people in future decades to come. Vote no!
Well, except for that part where there's no option for freedom within the referendum. They're basically being asked which method of death they prefer. Quick and violent? Or eternal impoverishment to the point of eventual starvation?
Perhaps develop a method so the Greeks start paying their Fucking Taxes to support their budget. they need an implosion to rebuild their system.
The little people in Greece paid their taxes (they couldn't escape them); the rich never paid them: Yawn, like everywhere else in Europe. All went along fine until the shit hit the fan in '08. And yes, you're right: an implosion could be just the ticket. A new low currancy that beggars everyone else's and Greek tourism could take off like a rocket.....I'll see ya in Santorini.
Perhaps it is time to rename it "Dependence Day".
the Grecian Formula R
thanks
7. My big briefcase has not arrived yet. Wink wink.
Betting it all on a future court decision that they cant be tossed out.... Cool... Maybe portugal italy and spain will contribute to their legal fees?
So whats this like day ten of tossing shit against the wall to see if it sticks?
Getting to feel like the guy who works the monkey exhibit at the zoo? Me too.
Once you are "in" you just can't get out with out a war. That is the reality of all governmental units. Including our own. NO matter how much blather the politicicans spew about our freedom. We can' leave. We are trapped. http://www.thetruthaboutthelaw.com/they-tell-big-lies-about-our-supposed...
Tsipras just announced if current market volatility remains Greece will be able to make creditor payments due to excellent trading resultats by Varoufakis !
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1. The banks want to reposess the car we can't pay for???
2. US says to avoid the execution of CDSs please.
3. We provide Germany empathy training and that is worth something?
4. They want your pensions and expect you to pay silly taxes?
5. We stay in the EURO because that's where the free money comes from.
6. We have not because we work not and we are proud of it. White suits and work don't mix.
Greece should introduce the "forever bond" that will never be repaid, and that includes interest (after some point).
That way they won't have to fix their broken and corrupt system.
The EU thugs want to take from the poor to give to rich banksters
http://www.cityam.com/211629/austere-greece-not-home-varoufakis
This dude doesn't care, big house, blonde wife with a nice big ass...he's living it up. Who the fuck cares.
No shit. Also, what a fucking moron for using a British dentist.
This ain't a disco baby, this is war; the bankers are invading and they WANT your country. Say NO to paying back ODIOUS debt and then act like adults and make your country work! During WWII when massive German armies were invading Russia, the Russians ACTED and unscrewed their industrial base piece by piece, loaded it on railcars, transported it eastwards, unloaded it and put it back together and began manufacturing war materials - if you make the right moves and start ACTING responsibly and resolutely, you can make something of Greece - BUT you're going to have to get off your asses and THINK and DO...
That was indeed quite remarkeble what the Russians did. They had good motivation though. Stalin threatened to kill a lot of people involved if they would not succeed. I don't see Tsipras doing that.
it comes down to plain old slavery with a yes vote and slavery with honor(self imposed) with a no vote. VOTE NO! fuck the eu and the empire. nuland wants to, so can you.
"Greece’s place in the Eurozone and in the European Union is non-negotiable."
"Greece's seat on the gravy train is non-negotiable."
Third world beggars remain first-world choosers.
Without debt cut, Greece is dead. If the europeans don't agree, Greece should default by itself to all the debt, while staying in the euro.
http://nsnbc.me/2015/07/01/leaked-documents-why-tsipras-said-no-why-germ...
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-01/leaked-troika-documents-show-gr...
The result of the vote depends on who has control of the voting machines .If the Greek government wants a NO vote
they'll get a NO .
Unless the voting machines are Diebolts.
My sources say those Greeks wishing to stay in the EU are Soros/Rothschild funded. just saying...
the reptiles would rather kill people than take a haircut on their golden cow.
Varoufakis is a dead man walking, politically speaking, as is Tsipras.
Those two Idiots would do anything to save their Jobs...
the only money they got coming in is via emergency handouts from other European Taxpayers -
If the Greek People vote NO on Sunday, the last lifeline from the ECB will have to be shut off
a NO means - Greece will be out of the Eurozone with no more handouts.
this will be better for the 18 Eurozone member states, but disasterous for Greece,
since it has no Industrie apart from tourism and the Greek Government does not collect taxes,
and is insolvent as we speak.
Varoufakis is a total failure as Greek finance minister, and Tsipras is a conceited megalomaniac,
playing a losing game - taking Greece down to total financial ruin and out of the Euro,
and all just to save himself and the free handout lifestyle on other peoples money.
the sooner these Idiots are thrown out, the better.
the Greeks will vote YES on Sunday and throw those amateur poker players out
of the Government for good.
otherwise things will get much much worse....
not for Tsipras or Varoufakis, but for the Greek People.
WR;)
it will be as disastrous to greece as it was for iceland. there will be several years of self imposed austerity followed by freedom from the bankster class. as far as the people are concerned the escape from the eurobanksters and the empire would be much more beneficial to greece.......and russia, once the pipeline is finished.
the eurozone, on the other hand will dissolve once portugal and spain realize independence from the euro banksters is better than dependence upon them. greece has the cards. the eu is bluffing with a king hgh.
Falsche, bescheuerte Argumente.
" the only money they got coming in is via emergency handouts from other European Taxpayers -"
You mean the same European taxpayers that bailed out the Germans banks that made bad investments in Greece? Cause that what the so-called bailout of Greece was about.
If you don't tahe the hit now and get out, it's just going to be more painfull later on. Financing debt with more dept is a never ending spiral to eventual financial doom.
goldman sachs is founded and owned by jews
guess what is the relation between this crisis and some jewish individuals?
soon that will be illegal speech.
The print media in Europe in general and in the German speaking countries in particular remained absolutely silent about the Greek demands to restructure and cut debt to a sustainable level. Instead the media produced the picture of the Greek and the EU position being separated by nothing just a minor gap which the naughty Greeks were unwilling to bridge. The disinformation in our media has become ever-present and is on the same level with the best Russian propaganda available.
I said "No!" to drugs but they wouldn't listen.
Haven't seen the claw move for a while.
DEFAULT !!!
Exit euro.
Exit EU.
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But the real point is the following, which applies to individuals as well as fictitious entities like corporations and governments.
##### THREE WAYS TO LIVE #####
#1: save == spend less than you earn.
#2: even == live paycheck to paycheck.
#3: debt == borrow, spend, party-time!
#1: When you save, you have fewer goodies to enjoy now, in the short term, but you accumulate savings so you can live better tomorrow than today, or goof off tomorrow and continue to live similar to today. Plus, you have the option to buy seriously wonderful but expensive items (like maybe an airplane), or better yet, start a business and become financially independent of employers (but not customers).
#2: When you avoid debt but don't save (live paycheck to paycheck), you enjoy as many goodies as you can today and everyday without going into debt. But you're on the edge financially, and any speedbump encountered (like getting laid off) can be difficult to manage. You will never have the option to buy seriously wonderful but expensive items, because you have no savings (bummer) and refuse to borrow (good for you). And you will find it difficult (but not impossible) to start your own business and become financially independent of employers (but not customers).
#3: When you both earn, borrow and spend, you enjoy more goodies every day than you earned. As a consequence, your debt will grow larger and larger as long as you continue this lifestyle. You can hurdle any speedbump with ease... by getting deeper and deeper into debt. Life seems easy, because the answer to every desire and every obstacle is the same... more debt. You can buy all sorts of really wonderful and expensive items. In fact, debt is so easy, you can buy all sorts of expensive stuff that isn't really very wonderful [for very long], because debt is so easy.
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But wait! I left something out, didn't I? Like... what about "the long run"?
#1: In the long run, you have substantial savings. You can start to spend savings to live a better life in the future than you lived in the past. You can buy astonishingly cool things. You can buy vacation/investment property in exotic tropical paradises. You can start your own business. You can retire early. And every single day of your life you can enjoy the psychological calm, peace and quiet that only financially secure folks can know.
#2: In the long run, you have no savings. But you also have no debt. So you can keep working and enjoy the same standard of living you have enjoyed your entire working career. You'll have to accept that you can never own anything that is "extremely cool but very expensive", but that's okay, because you are used to the standard of living you have. Just hope you don't encounter any serious financial speedbumps though, because you have no savings to help you over them, and thus they will hurt (materially damage your standard of living for an extended time).
#3: In the long run, you have a huge debt burden. Plus, you've finally reached your "credit limit", so you can't continue to live beyond your means (income) any longer. BUT WAIT... the situation is far worse than that! Not only is your standard of living dramatically cut back by the end of borrowing, a huge percentage of your income is consumed paying off those debts! Oops! But even worse, you must pay interest on those debts too!
And so, the debt-freak gets clobbered by a "triple whammy".
A: no more borrowing (spending money reduced).
B: must pay off principle (spending money reduced).
C: must pay off interest on principle (spending money reduced).
And so...
STANDARD OF LIVING MUST NECESSARILY COLLAPSE DRASTICALLY
But... but... but... humans are creatures of habit. And so, debtors are thoroughly accustomed to their artificially high standard of living they have enjoyed for decades.
AND THEY DON'T WANT THE PARTY TO END.
AND THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY THE BILL.
And so, they scream bloody murder, pretend THEY are being abused, and claim THEY should not suffer the consequences of THEIR OWN ACTIONS.
And so, here we are today.
Over the past 30~50 years banksters have jiggered the system (disconnected currency from restraint AKA gold-backing) in order to massively indebt everyone they could con into their plan to create worldwide mass debt servitude.
And so, all at once, all at roughly the same time in history...
BILLIONS OF DEBTORS REACHED THE END OF THE LINE.
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#1: Savers have been living frugally, well below their means (income). Worse, the easy availability of fiat, fake, fraud, fiction, fantasy, fractional-reserve debt has created massive price-bubbles in the most necessary and expensive good they need to buy, namely "home". So savers have had to be even more frugal than normal to save after suffering artificially high prices for homes (and certain other goods) caused by hoards of debtors.
#3: Debtors are now desperate to avoid the consequences of their actions. Debtors never were responsible people... as evidenced by their willingness to be irresponsible and take the "easy out" provided by "easy debt".
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And so, what does everyone think will happen now?
If it was only individual debtors who were egregiously irresponsible, perhaps we'd have the economic collapse that is entirely natural and appropriate in these circumstances. Prices would fall --- most dramatically in areas where price-bubbles were previously created. Savers would swoop in and buy up the nice homes they've been waiting half a lifetime to buy, but could not afford previously (previously occupied by debtors living far above their means).
... BUT ...
Individual debtors are quite obviously NOT the only irresponsible parties who got themselves egregiously deep into debt. So did predators-DBA-governments.
This makes a HUGE difference in what happens next.
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What happens next?
Virtually all the debtors, both private and public, have proven themselves wildly irresponsible. They also have no interest or willingness to suffer the consequences of decades of their irresponsible behavior.
And so...
All these private and public debtors shall descend like swarms of locusts to STEAL ALL SAVINGS from those folks who were prudent, frugal savers the past several decades.
Savers can count on this as much as you can count on water being wet at room temperature and pressure.
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What to do?
!!!!! GET OUT NOW !!!!!
Remove ALL your savings from banks, brokerages, financial vehicles... EVERYONE. Then convert your savings into some form of physical wealth that CANNOT BE STOLEN. For practical purposes, this means "physical precious metals that you thoroughly and carefully hide and secure yourself"... trusting NOBODY WHATSOEVER (including relatives). This could mean "unreported debt-free real-estate in well chosen foreign locales".
Most important of all... get your own butt out of dodge! !!! FAST !!!
Clear out everything... everything you own, as well as your own self. Leave ZERO financial connections with any corporation inside the fictitious nation that claims you as "citizen" == "slave".
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The locusts are coming. Little time remains.
All the above was easy to foresee, and was foreseen by millions of savers (who think about these issues, which is what motivates them to live prudent and frugal).
What many savers did not foresee is how insanely out of whack this problem would get before the absurdity collapsed. And many of them also did not imagine how utterly, totally and completely unrestrained by laws, rules, ethics, morals, justice and basic honesty and good behavior the predators-DBA-government would get. But that is NOW COMPLETELY CLEAR. Which is why every prudent saver MUST pick up their marbles and get them far outside of dodge (their home "nation").
The way things are shaping up recently...
2015 == the year the SHTF