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NSA Leak: "Washington Is Negotiating With Every Nation That Borders China... So As To 'Confront' Beijing"
Another "Wikileak" of a confidential NSA intercept, and yet another crucial insight into the vision not only behind the Obama administration's desperate push for the Trans Pacific Partnership, but the strategic thinking - if one may call it so - when it comes to the entire US approach to global trade and commerce. Which may well explain why global trade has been imploding in recent years, masked first by just US QE and then by QE from all "developed" central banks.
The synopsis:
Intercepted communication between French Minister-Counselor for Economic and Financial Affiars Jean-Francois Boittin and EU Trade Section head Hiddo Houben, reveals Boittin's discontent with U.S. approach towards a WTO pact. Additionally Houben stated that the TPP (being an American initiative) seems devised as a confrontation with China.
EU Officials Perceive Lack of U.S. Leadership on Trade Issues, Skeptical of Pacific Initiative (TS//SI//OC/NF)
(TS//SI//OC/NF) Washington-based EU trade officials ascertained in late July that the U.S. administration is severely lacking in leadership when it comes to trade matters, as shown by the absence of a clear consensus on the future course of the WTO Doha Development Agenda (DDA). French Minister-Counselor for Economic and Financial Affairs Jean-Francois Boittin expressed astonishment at the level of "narcissism" and wasteful contemplation currently on display in Washington, while describing the idea of scrapping the DDA in favor of another plan--which some U.S. officials are seen to favor--as stupefying. The Frenchman further asserted that once a country makes deep cuts in its trade barriers, as the U.S. has done, it no longer has incentives to offer nor, as a consequence, a strong position from which to negotiate with emerging nations. Boittin's interlocutor, EU Trade Section head Hiddo Houben, after noting the leadership void in the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative, declared that with regard to the disagreement within his host government on DDA, a political decision must be made about what direction is to be followed. On another subject, Houben insisted that the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), which is a U.S. initiative, appears to be designed to force future negotiations with China. Washington, he pointed out, is negotiating with every nation that borders China, asking for commitments that exceed those countries' administrative capacities, so as to "confront" Beijing. If, however, the TPP agreement takes 10 years to negotiate, the world-and China-will have changed so much that that country likely will have become disinterested in the process, according to Houben. When that happens, the U.S. will have no alternative but to return to the WTO. Finally, he assessed that this focus on Asia is added proof that Washington has no real negotiating agenda vis-a-vis emerging nations, including China and Brazil, or an actual, proactive WTO plan of action.
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Z-3/OO/531614-11, 011622Z
Source: Wikileaks
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this will not end well
USA negotiating with Russia to confront China?
I bet you that this isn't news to the Chinese, as good ol' Vlad picked up the phone "Hey, you wouldn't believe the phone call I just got off of ..."
China will support the Confederacy when the time comes. And so will Russia, bank on it.
USSA gov sees no problem meddling in Ukraine, Spratleys, Syria, etc. buy would call that outrageous.
Once again we see the ramifications of electing foolish people because they wear the right underwear,
can slow groove well on late night TV, they "talks all good an shit", etc..
Do they really think that nations such as Nepal, Bhutan, Bangladesh, Myanmar, Laos, Vietnam, Cambodia,
N. Korea, et al will play intimate footsies with America (6000+ miles away) when China is right next door?
Flirt? Yes. Get all buddy buddy? Not a chance. Far too risky.
America has lost it's way.
You have no choice who is elected. You get the choice of two preapproved puppets.
In the comments, I see no one I'd trust to elect a leader, anyway.
ZH is a pack of Tiananmen-denying wierdie boys who strangely think China has more honest global intentions than America, and who gladly fifth-column for the Chinese at the merely price of gold being revalued. Like a Jew's loyalty, theirs is also bought and sold.
Half the people who post at ZH need to be rounded up into Tiananmen and given the final reward of treason. The other half should be paid well, because they are actually Chinese doing their patriotic astroturf.
Are your handlers unhappy with your reception here?
He has learned so much in 5 weeks,two day with us Fight club.
But not to keep his mouth shut so as to not remove all doubt.
ZH comments is hardly the place to crow that you are not a fool, as you polish bricks of $1900 gold that you bought in the Chinese gold mania of 2011-2013.
http://www.whartonasia.net/2013/10/wall-street-tycoons-vs-chinese-housewives/
I bought some recently at $1150 while all the Chinese were selling theirs to fund stock "investments" in their newest mania, so please advise which of us is a fool. When every Chinaman was driving up gold prices in a gold mania in 2011 just like their current stock mania, people back then who actually knew Chinese penchant for madness of crowds stayed away. People like you just assumed anything Chinese did was hella wise and long-term.
Buying reasonably priced gold at sane levels means I don't have to root for the side that drives tanks over its own people while complaining about the other side being too "rigged" for your precious sensibilities.
How much does the satanic State Dept pay you? How many posts does it take to buy an ounce of gold? 2,000? 4,000?
How many times do you have to mash the buttons on your keyboard for the scientists to drop a banana into your cage? 2,000? 4,000?
Hey Snakebite
Your endless repetition of the same futile twaddle leads me to believe you are still bitter about not being hired on here at zh as copy boy.
Nope. ZH editors are cool and nuanced. It's the comment section that is loony as fuck.
I've heard of 'preaching to the choir', but not 'preaching to the looney.'
Is it rewarding? St.Dindu of the Dingbats sounds vaguely familiar.
I have heard that Tel Aviv was recently voted 'most gay-friendly city in the world'. Please confirm this.
Of course, from your perch in Haifa (or maybe Alexandria), you should have no problem with this request.
No, no, no, Goyem aren't 'monkeys'. They're PIGS. EVERYONE knows THAT! I guess pigs eat bananas... and YOU are eating S#IT.
Return to sucking your chinese master's little dick.
DAMN. My comment is a little too close to home, isn't it?
The TRUTH hurts.
How much are you paid for each post? Do laowai get a better rate than 50 cents?
Did your mom let you out of the basement to use her computer again. .... good .. now tell her its time for your meds .. Bar a few sarcastic posts.. I have not seen anyone showing love for CHINA . in fact the exact opposite .. pointing out the follies and stupidity of Team USSA is not the same as having some hard on for China .. the cartoon indicates the reality .. not the way we wish it would be . can you tell the difference Dildo.
I despise all governments but I focus on the most dangerous.
That is the US by far.
"I have not seen anyone showing love for CHINA ."
You don't read the comment sections much? Some of the Americans on here even have said that they'd fight for China when it invaded their country. And got upvotes. This is literally a hotbed for loons.
Gives us a link please, or take your Halperidol little boy.
Maybe you can't take a joke, being one yourself and all.
fighting for china, and against the usa makes sense.
there's a lot of people on here who are pro-capitalist and anti-socialist.
also, i would like to congratulate you on your entry into the not-so-exclusive club of people-who-dont-know-what-the-word-literally-means
Congrats on showing that you would in fact fight for some country that massacres its own people. Literally, you are a fascist stooge.
When Zh commenters show their love for crypto-fascist regimes, it is not ironical at all, as Winston Churchill claims.
As for China being capitalist... lol, that lie ended long ago.
Which state-owned Chinese SOE has used its share of the $28 trillion in state-commanded bank loans to pay your wage to be a fifth columnist?
Dindu and Stacking are one and the same. Else, they are working the board as compatriots.
Easy to see. Check the votes. FUCKING OBVIOUS.
butt out, MS (MS = montgomeryscott, MS = multiple sclerosis)
don't you have some KKK meeting to attend or something?
he swings wildly...and, a miss!
i wouldn't fight for any country, stupid.
china is becoming increasingly capitalist, ussa is becoming increasingly socialist/fascist
as far as your words about "its own people", this shows that YOU are the facist, propogating the lie that a country (a made-up entity that doesn't really exist) can own people.
people do not belong to any country.
So, given your disdain for everyone here, can you remind us why you are here?
half of ZH this, and half of ZH that is hyberbole.
some get it, but many really do agree with stacking12321 when he says china is the better side. Those are the hella wierd guys.
again, pulling utter rubbish out of your ass.
show me where i said china is "the better side".
you can't, because I DIDNT!
So another one who comes along and puts words into the mouths of others, others who never said those words. YOU, put them into people's mouths, then launch your clever attack on them. How hard is that. You are both sides of the debate. You set up a straw man, put words in his mouth, then show your great skill at tearing him apart with your debating skills!
Go back, and present for us those posters who said, what you claim they have said. You will fail, because you said those words, not the ZH posters. You even put thoughts into the heads of ZH posters. and cleverly attack those too.
It is a great high school debate tactic, one that is pathetic on a site like ZH.
You gonna have to do a whole lot better in your battle against the China lovers, and Putin's Troll Army that hang out at ZH!
YES.
It's a classic method, akin to the 'Hegelian Dialectic', whereby the crisis is created and the reaction is awaited before the solution is proposed that promotes the goal that has been set. STRAIGHT out of Saul Alinsky's book. Saul Alinsky. Interesting name.
I have a neighbor whose wife is from the Phillipines. She cooks me egg rolls sometimes, and I like them. Of course, egg rolls are a staple of Chinese restaurants. I like Chinese egg rolls. In fact, one of my best friends growing up was from FREE CHINA (his grandparents fled the Communists in 1948). His mom used to cook me lunch sometimes in the summer when I was over at their house. She was Chinese, and I liked her (and her husband). My Mom and Dad liked them, as well.
I guess I'm a 'China supporter'. NOT...
China is where it is today almost completely because of the US. If it becomes a monster that increasingly threatens us, it is because we did everything we could in the last 30 years to build them up as a competitor to us. And for what exactly? To run massive trade deficits with them? Along the way, it never occurred to any of these Foreign Policy "genuises" that it might cause problems in the future. No--they were too busy cashing in.
Actually, one could make the case that our foreign policy since is 180 degree counter to our interests--and has been for some time. We are so fuking stupid its just breathtaking.
Only the last 30?
Vichy don't care about the Confederate slavery history, that fits their zio masters agenda, its the resistance spirit to the zio slavery agenda they're concerned about.
USA negotiating with North Korea to confront China?
I wouldn't doubt that. I've learned to never underestimate the ternacity of the Washington gang in their endless lunatic, psychopathic, and sociopathic endeavors.
That idiot in DC will have the US fighting the entire planet all at the same time. Watch.
sure they will, they don't have a choice now, if they lose - they are dead men
"That idiot"?? Singular?
What would you call those in Congress, CFR, RAND and other neo-con cesspools?
Idiocracy.
>>>That idiot in DC will have the US fighting the entire planet all at the same time.
"Team O" is all about a globalized future for the children; armed conflict is largely due to incompetence.
It's "Team R" that adds the "or else", and armed conflict is policy.
Frankly, Congress should impeach Valerie Jarrett, Barry Hussein Soetoro's chief handler.
Not gonna happen, though.
Hope this gets us to the point quicker when at the very least China shoves gold and the USD up Obama's sullied ass.
What a great ZH story. I forwarded it to Bang Dee Ho and Long Er Wong at China's state department so they can take appropriate action.
So far only heard an acknowledgement from He Hehe and He Bao Wow.
They said it's a very serious matter and to expect a formal response from Yu Stin Ki Pu or Chin Tu Fat in next few days.
Only the U.S. would ever confront another nation. The Chinese would never do that.
and thats what separate usa from being a responsible nation
and thats what separate usa from being a respectful nation
I would say "I told you so"...but I'd be preaching to the choir here..
Got Rope?
No but I gots a woodchipper.
I'm not prejudiced, I love woodchippers too!
Do you find it coincidental that most firearms are BLACK in color?
This fact never bothered me. I like firearms.
Should I repaint my woodchipper 'gun-metal' grey, or flat black? I'm gonna need a 55-gallon drum of gun bluing.
Well, in D.C., all firearms (and woodchippers) are to be repainted with the colors of the RAINBOW, I suppose. 'Stars And Bars' seems to be replaced with the 'Fag Flag', in that 10-square-mile reclaimed swamp.
NO, D.C. doesn't want the PLA to start using worthless trillions of FEDSCRIP to buy and sell goods throughout the region. WHY? Because it has NO BACKING (except the B.S. that has been printed on the bills that the FEDRES Rothschild cartel conned the people into believing, and that OTHER thing about 'the full faith and CREDIT of the United States', which has been frozen at just over $18 TRILLION DEFECIT for going on six weeks). In reality, D.C. doesn't own or control anything besides the swamp they inhabit.
In other words, the US mule [ZWO controlled] is throwing printing press output and favors at China's neighbors in order to get the WWIII ball rolling and blame the inevitable financial collapse on that.
The ZWO operated exceptional USA mule now operates like a spoiled brat that cheats, lies, steals and reneges on promises when it isn't bombing and plundering sovereign states.
Go figure.
There's this parasite that infects caterpillars in South America; the catapillar lives normally until one day the parasite takes control of the cats wee brain, and it climbs up to the treetop, stands up on its hind legs, and sways back and forth for attention until a bird notices it, and eats it.
The parasite survives the bird's digestive system and gets shit out on a leaf, where another hapless cat eats it, and the cycle repeats.
I cannot imagine why that came to mind.
A good parasite doesn't kill it's host.
The gangbangkster ZWO cartel is not a good parasite.
Americans are being used until they're used up, then a new host will be infected. Probably China.
lunatics are running this asylum...
That would probably be a step up from where we are.
This all has to play out before the silk roads/pipelines are completed.
After that, its over for Pax Americana. I don't believe there is enough time for convential
warfare, which only leaves a very unpleasant alternative,
Are they that MAD ?
WW3 cannot be convenional...America has shipped all it's industrial infrastructure that was easily converted into building arms in WW2 to China.
Hopefully, WW3 will mercifully be over in a blink and 90% of us won't feel a thing.
The "very unpleasant alternative"...If we have a cyber war, EMP attack, satellites killed, and ensuing grid melt down...our economy will be based on cannibalism and slavery within 10 days.
I'm astonished that he's astonished at Obama's narcissism.
yah, there's that ' n ' word again.
I just looked at the cartoon *again*. They who have the gold make the rules... Good luck confronting China, USSA.
Just stop buying China's cheap poisonous crap
cheap poisonous crap you say?
Most PC hardware - Made in China
Most cellphones and/or cell components - Made in China
the biggest exporter of steel to the US - China
Huh, that idea than the chinese only make cheap crap is a little backward.
This.
He said "poisonous crap", I guess he would prefer we only by GMOs, Roundup, Pacific fish, Salmon from below Hanford, etc, etc. Let China keep their own poisons.
Where did he say that all China makes is cheap crap?
If someone told you to stop fucking ugly fat women, do you assume that you have to stop fucking all women?
I've seen a lot of 'stuff' in my travels of taking things apart over the past 25 years, and to this day, I am still amazed at just how many things that we use on a daily basis, are manufactured in China. It is ~staggering~.
ironiclly, old american made stuff has acquired a premium in the collector market for the simple reason it was made in the usa and probably will never be made in the usa again.
Just stop buying China's cheap poisonous crap in flea market. Fix it for you.
Just stop using American Dollars. Fix for the whole world.
So Vichy DC is negotiating with all the countries that border Russia and China. Good luck with that Obama! s/c
I'm sure glad I don't vote. I’ll never consent to what these assholes do.
Yeah, we should start the "never dumb enough to vote" club and only admit members who never voted in any election whatsoever. I wonder how many exist?
I mean people who refused to vote on principle, not the "too lazy".
I do not consent to be governed.
I refuse to be governed.
I refuse to vote.
Not many children escape political indoctrination. It took me waaaaay too long to escape its clutches. I can proudly say that I've been clean for over ten years now.
I am now a VERY principled non-consenter.
The TPP will quickly fall apart once the multinationals start suing the signatories.
"cheap poisonous crap you say?
Most PC hardware - Made in China
Most cellphones and/or cell components - Made in China
the biggest exporter of steel to the US - China
Huh, that idea than the chinese only make cheap crap is a little backward."
You mean the crap that is made to US or S Korean standards with tight quality controls?
I've got news for you, it's still crap
Subprime based financial instruments made in america and 100% crap.
Built any high speed rail lines?
yea, the acela. lol
It seems that letting a fool hang by his own rope may not quite get the job done if this keeps up...
I love that cartoon!!!
It's actually a very succinct graphic summary of the stupidity of the US camp - throwing gold at China while picking up countless bundles of soon-to-be-worthless US Federal Reserve notes.
good. sooner the better.
The NWO shall be defeated, their banksters and oligarchs shall be arrested and their financial system destroyed.
>>>The NWO shall be defeated, their banksters and oligarchs shall be arrested and their financial system destroyed.
The big-league medicine required to kill this parasite, will likely also kill the host.
Say good-bye to "North Atlantic Civilization".
Also wikileaks on TPP...
http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Wikileaks-Reveals-Secret-Texts-fro...
Part of it, of course, was inserted by Congress' Zionist masters to try to compel the free peoples of Middle-earth to not boycott Israel for its routine disregard for international law/agreements, UN resolutions, and war crimes.
http://www.jspacenews.com/trans-pacific-bill-includes-anti-boycott-israe...
http://fpif.org/lawmakers-are-using-trade-rules-to-blacklist-critics-of-...
http://www.algemeiner.com/2015/06/25/congress-passes-landmark-law-agains...
With the Israel Lobby getting its tentacles into trade agreements that don't even involve Israel, involving hundreds of millions of people, all to prevent boycotts based on clearly illegal, immoral action - how can anyone claim that the Israel Lobby isn't too influential?
it will definitely end in either proxy wars or direct war with Beijing. but i do see moar wealthy chinese coming to settle with money in the US.
So do you think they will come to be interned ?
The USA has always had a thing about slant eyes, and not in a positive way.
perhaps they will get their assets in the US frozen or taken away to say tbe least. many of them hold 10-year multi entry tourists visa but they buy property here.
there is a yellow peril coming your way.....and their women are hot even though the chinese female is where the dragon lady comes from. no need for feminism in china. they will kick your ass. ask any guy married to one. lol
i know a person enrolled in an english language immersion program in the states. just a few years ago the program had a great mix of foreign students. today it is 85% chinese. how many westerners are studying the language of the largest economy in the world? about 3.
When will they call the Chinese privileged racists for opposing the affirmatively chosen messiah?
this would be a nonissue if the yellow people would just let the western bankster rape their economy by allowing them access to the chinese banking system as partners. only then will there be a chance for peace on earth.
in conclusion, the old whore's uterus is dropping out and the kegels are so stretched from all the fucking they cannot stop it.
So the SHIT heads are negotiating with North Korea... lolololol
Seriously, lets all do our part and try to get this forwarded to chin'a gov't to let them know. I fucking hate this disgusting zio hijacked country and what it has become. Can't go anywhere at all now without seeing something or hearing something that is ANTI WHITE MALE here in this country. The school system, the movies, the shows, the news, ANYTHING ON TV, anything ANYWHERE you go now, ANTI FUCKING WHITE HETEROSEXUAL MALE. All work of the dirty fucking jew. I am sick of this country. The fucking filthy jew has made the white heterosexual male the terrorist of the USA. Just look what they did to Trump for sticking up for America. FUCKING FILTHY FUCKING JEWS.
I go watch Ted 2 at the movie theater last night to try and avoid the fucked up political world we live in that's anti white male and guess what? The whole fucking movie, everytime anyone does a computer search, "BLACK COCKS" shows up in the search like everyone is infatuated and worships the black cock. They have been at this shit for several years. The way things have turned out are not from natural reaction, it's 100% FROM THE JEW.
just dye it black and be done thith it.. (the P.C. thing to do)...
Anyone still think that the Bath House maggot Barry Obongo is the one thinking up all this stuff? Think a low-grade moron community organizer always dreamed of overthrowing a government in Ukraine? Fucking with China? Attacking Russia? Better take a closer look at the despicable swine Brennan, who is owned by Soros and rothschild.
Otto von Obama was not elected to "think things up" That is beyond the capacity of his equatorial brain.
What he did do (besides fool the Nobel Peace Prize Committee) was usher in, not just "bread and circus", but 'bread and three ring circus', to spin our heads, where he performs as both ringmaster and clown in floppy shoes and whiteface.
The TPP will put pressure on smaller Asian countries to adopt a of USSA corporate crap . pharmaceuticals to banking . .countries like Vietnam . have already poked us in the eye.. they refused our request to stop fueling Russian aircraft .. good on them. Whatever new respect countries like Vietnam had for us . I am sure will blow to kingdom come .. and once more become the UGLIER American .. the last thing small countries like Nam need is our cultural or ecnomic or geopolitical dicking around....
interesting. They just figured that out? We have been doing that for at least 2 years...maybe longer. We built their machine with the greed of the American corporations. Now we will have to pay the price. Or lets say that the poor and disenfranchised will have to pay the price because those that have made the money have left the country.
America has no leaders. The country is now ruled.
Somehow I am starting to believe that it is the Cabal Banksters who have placed a puppet homosexual chimp as US prez in order to...
Take all the blame (as an usually retarded & criminal stereotype) as scapegoat for the inevitable crash of US economy, crash of dollar & decimation of American status as a world leader, sacrifice the scapegoat and go home (to TelAviv, Israel)
WHAT!!! We are shipping whiskey to N. Korea?