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Egypt Is On The Edge Of Full Blown Civil War

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Via GEFIRA,

In the last few days there were dozens of separate attacks in Egypt from the Sinai up to Cairo. Probably more than 60 people died while the Egyptian army used F16 attack plains to protect itself against it disgruntled population. It is clear that the Egyptian rulers will not be able to contain the current situation, today could be marked as the start of Egypt’s civil war.

Democratic elected governments were violently overthrown, in Algeria, Egypt and  Palestinian territories. In Algeria the FIS  had won the first held elections with a convincing majority in 1990 and 1992. It has been removed from power in 1992 by a coup d’etat that was highly approved by the West. Probably 150.000 people died in the civil war that followed these events up.

HAMAS winning the 2006 elections in the Palestinian territories resulted in a war among Palestinians and ended up with a split of Gaza and the West Bank

In 2011 Morsi, leader of the Muslim Brotherhood won the first free elections in Egypt.

In 2013 the first elected president of Egypt was removed by the army. There are clear signs that anti-democratic forces were deliberately destabilizing Egypt before the coup d’etat in 2013. In the running up of the July 3th coup by General Sisi an artificial oil shortages was created that contributed to the mass protest against the elected president of Egypt.

The new army coup was financially supported by the Saudi rulers while the West was mute, the only vocalized opposition came from Turkey’s ruler MrErdo?an.

Washington was silent about Egypt’s coup and even resumed the delivery of military hardware to the Egyptian rulers, at the same moment Morsi received the dead penalty during a mock process.  The situation in Egypt will be much worse than the situation that we saw in Algeria in 1992.

Libya has been split in 3 parts, the by the West installed and recognized government in Tobruk could be seen as a supporter of the rulers in Cairo. The government in Tripoli is allied with the Muslim Brotherhood party and sees the government in Cairo as a threat to its existence. Both Governments do not rule Libya completely, big parts of Libya are under control of ISIS and other unregulated Islamist groups.

The war that is coming to Egypt will not be limited to Egypt and will be an extend to Libya’s war, for the sole reason that a lot of fighters and weapons will come over from Lybia.

The substantial amount of impoverished Egyptians are lacking any perspective and have nothing to lose. It is their party that has been removed from power in 2013.

The Egyptian army is heavenly weaponized by the USA, there will not be any doubt that those weapons will end up in the hands of Islamist groups. The Egyptian conscript army will be a huge risk for the country’s leaders as army units might switch loyalty.

Experienced fighters from Syria and Iraq will actively support their brothers in Egypt.

The new generation of Islamist’s will utilize the internet in their advantage. They will use it to mobilize their supporters and build their case against the Egyptian army and their backers in Riyadh and Washington.

The Internet will also be used for advanced communications and “crowd reconnaissance”. In Ukraine we have already seen how YouTube and mobile phones were used to pass on enemy’s positions. Modern professional armies are not prepared for new agile tactics that will be utilized by a new Islamic internet generation.

As the Muslim Brotherhood is enjoying massive amounts of support we are expecting that the situation in Egypt will deteriorate at the same pace as we have seen in Syria.

The Egyptian rulers will not be able to contain the current situation, today could easily be recorded as the start of Egypt’s big civil war.

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Sources:

Algerian Civil War Source Wikipedia
Bouteflika said in 1999 that 100,000 people had died by that time and in a speech on 25 February 2005, spoke of a round figure of 150,000 people killed in the war.[5] Fouad Ajami argues the toll could be as high as 200,000, and that it is in the government’s interest to minimize casualties

Egypt’s Gas Shortage Fuels June 30 Protests Al Monitor June 2013
The latest gas crisis falls prior to the highly anticipated June 30 protests called by the Tamarrud movement demanding that Morsi step down for his failure to achieve any of the revolution’s goals

Libya supreme court rules anti-Islamist parliament unlawful Source The Guardian 6 November 2014
In a blow to anti-Islamist factions, Libya’s highest court has ruled that general elections held in June were unconstitutional and that the parliament and government which resulted from that vote should be dissolved.

Mohammed Morsi death sentence upheld by Egypt court Source BBC 16 June 2015
The sentence was initially passed in May, but was confirmed after consultation with Egypt’s highest religious figure, the Grand Mufti. The death sentences of five other leading members of the Muslim Brotherhood, including its supreme guide Mohammed Badie, were also upheld.

Egypt Officially Announces ‘State Of War’ Source Egyptian Streets 1 July 2013
In an official statement released by the Egyptian Armed Forces, 17 Egyptian soldiers were reported killed, in addition to 13 more who were injured. The statement added that 100 militants have been killed, in addition to destroying 20 of the militants’ vehicles.

Sheikh Zuweid Death Toll: Egyptian Police Kill 9 In Cairo Suburb Raid As Assault On Sinai Town Comes To An End Source International Business Times 1 July 2015
Egyptian police raided a home in a western suburb of Cairo on Wednesday, killing nine men who they said were armed and plotting a terrorist attack. The killings happened the same day an ISIS-affiliated group launched a major assault on Sheikh Zuweid, an Egyptian city in the Sinai Peninsula, resulting in at least 100 casualties. The assault ended Wednesday evening.

Two Bomb Explosions Resonate Through Cairo Source Egyptian Streets 30 June 2015
In an official statement, the Director of Civil Protection in Cairo, Magdy al-Shalaqany has confirmed that two bombs have detonated in Cairo’s 6th of October city, with a five minutes gap between the two explosions, reported AMAY.

Islamist Blitz in Sinai Kills 64 as Egypt Sends Fighter Jets. Source Bloomberg 1 July 2015
Egypt’s army struck at militants with fighter jets and attack helicopters after 64 security personnel were killed in Sinai on the bloodiest day of the country’s escalating war with Islamist insurgents.

 

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Fri, 07/03/2015 - 17:05 | 6267025 Lumberjack
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Qui Bono? I thought so.

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 17:12 | 6267040 knukles
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Look!  Another Unicorn!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1Hs2AQwDgA
(for those who like Deutscheland 83)

 

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 17:16 | 6267058 y3maxx
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...did you know camel's milk makes the best halva.

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 17:19 | 6267064 Bollixed
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'F16 attack plains'

Those things are unbelievable....

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 17:29 | 6267093 Not Too Important
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The ones in Spain?

At least they fly. Cough, F22/35, cough.

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 17:35 | 6267105 THX 1178
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the whole damn complex system known as human civilization is unraveling. These hits are coming hard and fast. Has anyone else noticed that ZH now gets 20,000-30,000 views per article. I remember back in 2011 when get 10,000 was a big story...

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 17:59 | 6267172 Lost My Shorts
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There will be no doubt plenty of explanations by neocons, Obamabots, Israel shills, and other talking empty-heads employed by the corporate media, but you can put all of that in the compost bin.  You will get a much better explanation from this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_sink

An increasing number of the world's cages have too many rats in them, and the odd civil war changes little.  The gloss they put on their conflict -- Islamic, secular, etc. -- means little.  It's a state of permanent chaos.

Neither PC pinheads nor biblical cornucopians can bring themselves to understand.

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 18:15 | 6267209 0b1knob
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F-16 attack plains (sic)?

The first casualty of civil war is the English language. 

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 18:48 | 6267302 tarabel
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Go on, give it a shot.

Write a lengthy article and translate it yourself into Egyptian.

Or use an online translator.

Let's see how erudite you sound in a second language.

I always give obvious ESL people the benefit of the doubt.

It's the cringe-inducing and allegedly native speakers that drive me crazy.

 

 

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 19:47 | 6267492 Publicus
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The only way for the military dictatorship of Egypt to stay in power is genocide.

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 19:53 | 6267520 TahoeBilly2012
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Protocols of Zion, Greater Israel...."back to the stone age" yada yada

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 21:33 | 6267794 Motasaurus
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It is interesting to note who a completely destabilised, self-destroying Arab world benefits.

Hint. It's not the Arabs. 

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 04:10 | 6268361 Four chan
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egypt the "new" baltimore.

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 22:22 | 6267926 deimos178
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reports from an American married to an Egyptian on the ground in the country dispute this story.

https://www.facebook.com/cherinocita.sperryberens?fref=pb&hc_location=fr...

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 05:25 | 6268420 SubjectivObject
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Post the text.

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 20:35 | 6267641 Jack Burton
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I agree completely. The collapse in so many nations is due to over population. Syria has too many people. Egypt is way over populated.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 01:45 | 6268254 Ace006
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Something liked doubled since 1960?

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 01:04 | 6268206 NeoRandian
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Behavioral sink describes the collapse in behavior which resulted from overcrowding.

 

I'm assuming this occurred everywhere once we hit peak internet? Not physically, but mentally overcrowded gets the insanity all the same.

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 18:07 | 6267193 bonin006
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I think the "heavenly weaponized" Egyptian army is is even more impressive.

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 19:19 | 6267384 pazmaker
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Yes one of them being an F-16 Plain

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 18:08 | 6267194 bonin006
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double post due to "connection was reset"

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 02:16 | 6268288 nevertheless
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Its going to be great when they (US Gov) starts using them on us, won't it?

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 18:43 | 6267288 Caleb Abell
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 ... but mother's milk is more fun to harvest.

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 17:17 | 6267060 Aknownymouse
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I love reading ZH but this is a garbage article obviously written by muslim brotherhood sympathisers. The current regime saved Egypt from becoming another Syria. And the muslim brotherhood people were kicked out from Egypt to Qatar, Turkey, Germany and England. Their thugs are centered in Sinai area, were the Egyptian army presence used to be restricted due to the peace agreement with Israel, which in retrospect was a bad decision for both Egypt and Israel. Now Israel and Egypt came to the agreement of allowing the Egyptian army to go in and clean up that area from the islamists. The durrent regime is respectec and very much supported internally. If you don't know that, you need to do a lot more research. And don't go asking ISIS or islamists if they like the only leader in the area that is actually fighting them. Get it right please.

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 17:26 | 6267084 DeliciousSteak
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Bullshit. The army has support in major urban areas where the wealthier, more educated portion of the population lives - though the only reason it has support is that it protects them from the rest of the population. If someone finds a way to direct the more religious portion of the population it's going to be a bloodbath. Democracy can't work in a country like Egypt because the people will vote islamist candidates - which is why the latest presidential election was an absolute sham and a slap across the face of the population that believed the age of religious repression was over with Mubarak.

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 17:32 | 6267099 Aknownymouse
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You are a moron. Are you egyptian? Do you have family there? No ? Then STFU

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 17:57 | 6267170 g speed
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if you have family there you have intell on the ground---thank you for your input--be safe 

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 18:23 | 6267240 Aknownymouse
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Thank you. The US was actually pushing Morsi and helped him get elected. The current administration was voted in by the people DESPITE Obama and Hillary best efforts. This article and the idea it is trying to push hard is the exact opposite of the truth. not all written words are true. Yiu know Islamists also can type.

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 20:37 | 6267647 OpenThePodBayDoorHAL
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Fucking incompetent Berkeley-ites in Chanel suits pretending they are Kissinger, first they push Mubarak out, then they back Morsi, then when the bleeding obvious happens they back the bloodthirsty generals again. Result? Both sides hate the US equally now. 

I happened to run into Susan Rice in the Chiang Mai airport, travelling with her carpet-munching girlfriend, no security and hoping she wouldn't be recognized. I rocked right up and gave her a real verbal pasting, she definitely got the point. It was immensely satisfying.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 02:07 | 6268274 falconflight
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I'm jealous, and probably wouldn't have had the balls.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 05:32 | 6268427 SubjectivObject
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If video is'nt avialable, please post the dialog.

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 20:57 | 6267705 Jack Burton
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That is pretty strict limitation on comments. Live there, be a certain nationality, or have family there. If not STFU.

 

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 20:23 | 6267599 falconflight
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The more educated, to-wit; more secular (very loosely used term) Egyptians know that the Islamists, regardless of which sect or acronym will invariably claim the more well off, secular (very loosely used term again) educated are 'infidels'  or apostates, and will serve as a foil and subject them to the most arbitrary and capricious actions possible from the cleansing and purifying strain of Islam sweeping across the world today.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 01:11 | 6268217 NeoRandian
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Ah yes, our very own rl faith militant. Thanks for the purification, guys!

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 01:24 | 6268236 TheReplacement
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Well thank Allah that the securlars are in charge so they can repress the Islamists instead.  Whew.  Morality = perception?

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 01:09 | 6268213 NeoRandian
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Sounds like the Egyptian people just need some more education and alienation, then we might give them another chance to vote for the right people.

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 18:37 | 6267277 Piranhanoia
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Have read this a couple times.  It seems to be propaganda, it doesn't seem to be originally english, the translator does'nt seem to speak english well, it describes events that happened others that its sure will happen because of things that haven't happened, or have happened.  If that isn't enough, then it goes Nostradumbass.

This ain't a Tyler.

 

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 20:00 | 6267449 GoldSilverBitcoinBug
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You seem to forget that Morsi has at least 50 % of the population supporting him, the only outcome is a civil war and eventually a scission, meanwhile ISIS will advance profiting from the general chaos.

My prediction is that the Sissi regime will not last years...

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 17:05 | 6267026 viator
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Wonderful, another failed state, but I wouldn't count out the Egyptian establishment that knows how to look out for itself.

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 17:06 | 6267029 davidalan1
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Who fucking cares...So sick of the middle east and its bullshit cretins. Since I was 10yrs old and was able to be cognizant of the middle east its been the same fucking thing for 45 plus years...ridiculous...and pathetic for them to get so much fucking attention in the press. fuckem.....NBC,CBS, ABC  could run the ssme footage of guys throwing rocks and shit from back in the sixties..

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 17:45 | 6267133 paint it red ca...
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The very fact that events are getting covered in the MSM belies the underlying involvement of hidden hands who also control the media...

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 20:58 | 6267710 Jack Burton
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Bingo! If it gets heavy attention, then America's Deep State wants us to understand this in a way to benefit their aims there.

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 18:02 | 6267181 g speed
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millions fucking care--what nobody fucking cares about is you --  if you get impressions that form your opinions from NBC etal then you are the cretin----just saying

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 18:47 | 6267292 Questan1913
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"Who fucking cares...So sick of the middle east and its bullshit cretins. Since I was 10yrs old and was able to be cognizant of the middle east its been the same fucking thing for 45 plus years...ridiculous...and pathetic for them to get so much fucking attention in the press. fuckem.....NBC,CBS, ABC  could run the ssme footage of guys throwing rocks and shit from back in the sixties.."

 

 

You ignorant sub-moronic philistine........

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 19:16 | 6267379 davidalan1
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phil·is·tine ?fil??st?n/ noun noun: philistine; plural noun: philistines
  1. 1. a person who is hostile or indifferent to culture and the arts, or who has no understanding of them.


    "I am a complete philistine when it comes to paintings"

adjective adjective: philistine
  1. 1. hostile or indifferent to culture and the arts.


    "a philistine government"

Yeah, that sounds like me... culture and art perfectly describes the middle east...lmao

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 02:15 | 6268285 nevertheless
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You are indeed an idiot. The very idea that you could say somehting so devoid of reasson, America and our western imperialism is at the root of much of what is wrong in the Middle East.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 12:03 | 6268970 viahj
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the imperial USA merely backs one side against the other to achieve a benefit to themselves and Israel.  w/o the USA, there would still be strife.  fucking religion, has everyone fighting over a fucking desert.  God has a sick sense of humour.

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 19:32 | 6267434 falconflight
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Leave AraFart Abbas's (King Abdullah's) peeps outta this.

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 19:33 | 6267438 falconflight
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1400 years and counting.  

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 02:00 | 6268264 Ace006
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Good point. Same stuff, different day.  Rocks, rockets, bullets, bombs, mines, assassinations, kidnappings, hijackings, FGM, honor killings, and endless b******t. Day in. Day out. Every last damn effort to move forward an inch stillborn 

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 19:09 | 6270110 asavet1952
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David, I'm tired of it too. Too much press. Things will never change there. Just like Africa. Been all kinds of folks with good intentions trying to help these people. Such a waste of time and money.

 

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 17:07 | 6267034 whoknoz
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who knew?

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 17:10 | 6267042 Soul Glow
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While the first world begins its financial implosion, the 3rd World continues theirs.

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 17:19 | 6267068 suteibu
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That forced democracy building sure is a tragic and messy thing.  THIS is why America is hated.

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 18:12 | 6267203 Max Steel
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Operation : CLEAN SLATE . All roads lead to _______ .

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 20:25 | 6267605 falconflight
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Damascus?

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 02:02 | 6268267 Ace006
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Nashville.

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 17:22 | 6267072 general ambivalent
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We mission accomplished some folks.

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 17:28 | 6267091 disabledvet
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Maybe in Bismark, North Dakota...

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 17:25 | 6267081 NubianSundance
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All those countries like Egypt and Ethiopia the population has increased 500% in the last few decades, watch out for fights over Nile water. Birth control should be the number one priority, there's poverty enough already.

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 17:33 | 6267102 Not Too Important
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Like the birth control for 6th graders in Seattle?

'Schools Implant IUDs in Girls as Young as 6th Grade Without Their Parents Knowing'

http://www.lifenews.com/2015/07/02/schools-implant-iuds-in-girls-as-youn...

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 18:09 | 6267196 css1971
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"Schools Implant IUDs in Girls as Young as 6th Grade"

6th Grade is not an age.

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 19:22 | 6267396 azusgm
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Please tell me who is stupid or evil enough to put an IUD into a school girl. IUDs are not for the promiscuous. They tend to increase the likelihood of contracting an STD if the female is exposed. Great way to add to the incidence of pelvic inflammatory disorder or sterility or tubal pregnancy.

This is so irresponsible.

But then again if you follow the money back you will find Bill and Melinda Gates.

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 17:37 | 6267110 BobRocket
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The Developed nations need to sow discord in the unDeveloped nations to create the migrant exodus that will pay for the promised pensions.

 

Why does US sponsor chaos in Mexico (Mexico TFR = 2.22 US TFR = 1.88)

ditto EU and MENA (MENA TFR = > 3 EU = 1.55)

 

Fuck me, look at Yemen. TFR = 6 - we'll have some of that, quick bomb the fuckers.

 

There are none so blind that will not see

 

 

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 19:32 | 6267422 Pure Evil
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And please provide explanation how illiterate non-english speaking persons working sub-standard depressed wages are going to pay off the pensions of spoiled rotten micro-agressing white privileged assholes.

I guess all those undocumented migrants picking strawberries in Cali are making so much money they can easily pay for their Obamacare and SS.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 01:25 | 6268237 NeoRandian
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If those migrants didn't pick strawberries for cheap, then Granny couldn't afford to eat her berries. The illegals that do get documented end up paying Granny's SS since she didn't have enough children to support herself. When the current batch of naturalized illegals gets old, we'll just euthenize them citing preference utilitarianism or something.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 02:11 | 6268277 nevertheless
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You are out of your mind, so while "granny gets cheap strawberries", who pays for Paco's hospital bills, or for the roads he drives on, or for his kid's schooling, or for his food stamps? Granny pays higher taxes and higher medical costs to subsidize Paco's life style. Cheap strawberries are not such a good deal anymore are they?

 

And when Paco is not in the field picking strawberries, he is working at a restaurant, or on a construction site, or working on someone's lawn, YOU KNOW the jobs American kids USED to do. Now American high-school kids have to compete with 35 year old Paco's for jobs, so they NEVER get a chance to develop a work ethic.

 

And then because there are millions and million of Paco's, employers don't need to pay what they should, they can fire at will, there are more ready to replace him, driving down wages even more.

 

You can KEEP YOU CHEAP STRAWBERRIES, they are not worth the destruction they are doing to our nation, not by a long shot.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 02:21 | 6268290 bunnyswanson
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How?  By not paying taxes.  Private contractors working as lawn services are living in fine homes, have multiple cars/trucks in their yard and this is all they do.  The wife cleans house now and then but again, NO TAXES.  15% off the top for SSI.  If I could use my gross income to live, I'd have no complaints.  They buy and sell at flea markets, again, under the table and have a huge stack of bills.

No one works in the field over 40 unless they are outsiders.  By then, they figure out how to work at other jobs not as back breaking, constructino, house painting.  They live well.  I have yet to meet  starving Mexican.  It's the US veterans who are dragging the depths of misery in your country.  Perhaps you over look the real suffering because it is not made into a BIG DEAL.  Lobby groups for Mehico are hard at work protecting their people. 

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 01:52 | 6268258 moneylover3
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muslims don't believe in family planning. They have one pointed goal to produce more and more...!

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 02:01 | 6268265 nevertheless
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stfu you racist animal. Your mother should have family planned your ass out of existence. I am so tired of people saying such racist BS. Muslims have been victims of western imperialism for a century.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 02:10 | 6268275 Ace006
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You explain it so well.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 13:38 | 6269265 BruntFCA
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Muslim is not a race it's a belief system. You calling him a racist is retarded, you calling him an animal is biggoted and retarded. I doubt you even know what race or racism really is, it's just a little label you use on people to make you feel better.

I've met a few real Muslims, and race has nothing to do with it - go read Malcom Xs biography. I've also met biggoted Muslims who are obsessed with race...like you. A lot of so called "Muslims" these days have not even read the Koran and just use Islam as a cloak for their own biggotry. They form mini race-based fake ummah cliques, they are not fooling anyone.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 03:47 | 6268321 Jorgen
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"All those countries like Egypt and Ethiopia the population has increased 500% in the last few decades, watch out for fights over Nile water. Birth control should be the number one priority, there's poverty enough already."

Birth control should have been the number one priority since early 60's instead of mountains of food sent from both the West and the Soviet Bloc over these decades making poverty, hunger and illegal immigration into Europe even worse.

Africa to Record Largest Population Growth Over Next 40 Years

Morality Dilemma Like Never Before

50 million Africans invited to Europe

Tel Aviv residents protest against migrants

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 17:28 | 6267090 surf0766
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Dear Leader will back the Hood if this goes down.

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 17:31 | 6267096 sudzee
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Hmmm. ISIS everywhere but Jordan and Isreal. One has to wonder why..

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 17:48 | 6267142 Anunnaki
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Barack Obama's arabic name is Abu Daesh

Father of ISIS

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 19:30 | 6267419 falconflight
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Why would ISIS even try to attack Israel at this point in their struggle for power?  Why?  And as for Jordan, that western installed monarch is barely hanging on with US/British troops on the ground in the artificially created and maintained Hasemite Kingdom.

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 19:52 | 6267513 messystateofaffairs
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Patience grasshopper, Frankenstein gathers strength before turning on his creator.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 01:59 | 6268263 nevertheless
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Then we will send in our children and our tax payer weapons, to clean up Israel's weapon, again.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 02:11 | 6268279 Ace006
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Lead poisoning?

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 17:51 | 6267153 Anunnaki
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Does Zero Hedge have a copy editor on staff?

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 20:30 | 6267624 Crisismode
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No

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 17:54 | 6267164 Guentzburgh
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Egypt was robbed of Democracy , its own translation of democracy , the path to modernity was closed .

I wrote back then in Jerusalem post that it was an easy but seriously bad choice for both Jews and Saudi Arabia to steal democracy from Egypt.

Civil war was only a matter of time, I was told they knew better ... ok

Long bloody Civil War and alignment with Tehran is a virtual certainty now.

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 18:03 | 6267186 gatorengineer
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You do realize that Egypt and Iran are opposite branches of Islam right?

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 01:27 | 6268239 NeoRandian
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Hey, even the popes east and west are making up these days.

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 19:36 | 6267452 falconflight
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I doubt the Sunnis of Egypt, even those of the Muslim Brotherhood persuasion, are interested in the Hidden Imam of Shia Iran.  

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 00:09 | 6268117 Nick Jihad
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Doesn't Egypt import half its food?  A bloody civil war perhaps, but not a long one.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 01:56 | 6268261 nevertheless
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Totally correct, though I would put the US CIA in there as responsible too. What is really telling is how people "vote" your comment down, as if what you said is anything but the true. I guess when you don't like the truth, the only thing you can do is try to ignore its existence.

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 18:22 | 6267233 Omega_Man
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I heard the leader there was a real sissy

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 20:30 | 6267623 WTFUD
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Nah O_M you don't become leader in those lands without being feared.

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 23:08 | 6268017 Anunnaki
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Try to keep up

The Junta dude in charge is named Al Sisi

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 01:53 | 6268259 nevertheless
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You don't STAY a leader in those lands without having being a puppet of America/Israel.

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 18:27 | 6267250 C.A Ahmadine
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It is called The Arab Spring and it is wonderful.  Any questions?  Just like Obamacare.

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 18:28 | 6267252 C.A Ahmadine
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It is called The Arab Spring and it is wonderful.  Any questions?  Just like Obamacare.

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 18:34 | 6267268 bankonzhongguo
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The funniest element to this is the grim fact that the Egyptian military government requires Israeli intelligence to maintain order.

This is not lost of the bulk of the disenfranchised Egyptian population.

The core metric is the price of staples like rice, beans and bread in the Cairo MSA - 20+ million people.

Cairo is the spiritual heart of Arab peoples everywhere and it does not help matters when that population feels some sympathy to a ISIS front fighting regimes they feel have leaned too far to the US, UK and Israel for political domination.

Train these guys all you want, but its no different than the mujahedin circa 1992. At some point these young hungry lads will stop playing with their urethras and look for a mission.

Hard to believe the Greater Israel crew wants to have ISIS assassinate the King of Jordan to widen the Syrian front.

Damascus is not Leningrad.

Time to move to Canada.

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 19:27 | 6267410 falconflight
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Wow, just posted how ISISreal wants ISIS to take down Assad of Syria and Egypt, but now you claim it's King Abdullah of Jordan as well.  That means ISISreal will likely have real, true, Agape peace from the three major Arab nations surrounding ISISrael.  Looks like Hamas and Al Quids/Fatah are in big big trouble.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 04:58 | 6268401 Otrader
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 Biggest welfare/terrorist state in the world - Israel.  But, what the hell, they print the money here, loan it to the sheeples with interest, and send it back to the welfare state. What a racket.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 05:39 | 6268428 dreadnaught
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Israels secong largest export is sex slaves

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 16:44 | 6269761 azusgm
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Link?

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 20:34 | 6267638 Crisismode
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Canada does not want you or your kind.

Canadians are not stupid.

Go away and leave us ALONE!

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 02:56 | 6268314 bunnyswanson
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Canadians are not stupid, they are worse, naive. http://www.nationaldebtclocks.org/debtclock/canada

http://qualicuminstitute.ca/federal-debt/

"According to Paul Hellyer, from 1974–1975 to 2010, Canadian taxpayers have paid one trillion, 100 billion dollars ($1,100,000,000,000) in interest on the federal debt to private lenders.4 In 2011, alone, Canadian taxpayers paid the private banks an estimated $37.7 billion to service the federal debt—over $103 million each and every day of the year!5 "

 

http://www.immigration.ca/en/canada-visa/work-visa.html

If you are a Canadian employer wishing to hire a foreign worker, or have been offered a position by a Canadian employer, we invite you to complete our Free Online Evaluation to obtain an assessment of your qualifications for Canadian work authorization"

 

Canada's Gold Reserve Problem ... It Has None

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Kai5Goto2w

https://mises.ca/posts/articles/the-bank-of-canadas-gold-hoards/

https://www.imf.org/external/np/sta/ir/IRProcessWeb/data/can/eng/curcan.htm

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 18:41 | 6267286 Questan1913
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Terminate that foreign controlled tyrannical military government with extreme prejudice...black flag, all the way.

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 18:50 | 6267309 painlord-2k
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If Egypt end in a real civil war, expect a lot of dead for famine, as their imports cover at least half of their caloric needs.
If they fight, they can not work. If they do not work and produce something requested, they will not be able to pay for imports. If they do not pay, they will starve.

Chinese will feed their pigs with the corn in the market and if the Egyptians or any other arab, muslim, african can not keep up with the price... life its a bitch and then you die.

The economy is so bad in the Middle East the fertility is falling like a rock. From high levels. But it is falling for maybe 30 years,
And the place with higher fertility are the places with higher warfare.

You send your children in war when you have many of them. When you have only one, you are not very eager to send in in battle, 

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 01:32 | 6268245 NeoRandian
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When you are constantly surrounded by war you have many children because you are left with only one, if lucky.

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 19:23 | 6267399 falconflight
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Let's see (ZH Goebbles-MOhammanden magic thinking) ISIS is Israeli cause the Israelis want ISIS to overthrow Assad, and now Israeli wants ISIS of Sinai and presumably the rest of this 100 million Egyptian populated nation cause.....?

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 21:24 | 6267774 falconflight
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Just as I thought...No just as I knew, with a metaphysical certitude, that no one could explain how ISIS is in any way in Israel's national security interests.  I might as well be posting at Yahoo/DNC Ooze considering the mile wide and inch deep intellect of the most rabid JewKillas at ZH.  

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 19:38 | 6267458 Frodus
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Give all sides plenty of ammo and let nature take it course. last time i looked there was a vast ocean between us and them.

And yes its time that Europe got their hands dirty for a change. Janes Defence weekly.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 02:20 | 6268291 Ace006
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It frosts me no end, that European freeloading. Back during the war to kick Saddam out if Kuwait, the Germans sent minesweepers. Awesome contribution.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 07:49 | 6268506 Wahooo
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Wait. The krauts avoided sending their men and women into iraq. What's the problem with being smart?

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 20:43 | 6267628 Jack Burton
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Egypt is not my field of expertise. But I do know it's important place as the anchor for the whole Arab world. If they sink into civil war, it will be a blood bath. Egypt has a huge and well trained and armed Army. If they are cut loose on the opposition, the street will flow with oceans of blood.

I do not have a clue what the USA and Israel have planned here. But they are the puppet masters. Egypt is suffering massive over population. Tens of millions of excess people, with no jobs, no use, no future, no place. They exist, that is all they do. They produce babies in abundance, and that is all they do.

Egypt was once a great and viable nation. In fact, over-population has destroyed their chances. Minus 20 million people, Egypt could grow into a real powerful Arab state and economy. Egypt is a poster child for what over-population means. Every baby born there just adds to their collapse into chaos.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 00:35 | 6267984 Element
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I do not have a clue what the USA and Israel have planned here.

 

Let me give you a hint. The following is what Israel and US did six weeks ago. This is a contingency on top of their normal vast war time stocks:

 

US approves $1.9bn munitions sale to Israel
 
By: James Drew in Los Angeles - 19th May 2015
 
Source: Flightglobal.com
 
The US State Department has approved a massive arms sale to Israel for a variety of munitions including the joint direct attack munition, laser-guided paveway, small diameter bomb, hellfire missile and advanced medium-range air-to-air missile in potential deal worth an estimated $1.9 billion to domestic arms suppliers.
 
The sale is foreshadowed in a notice to Congress published today by the Defense Security Cooperation Agency.
 
“The government of Israel has requested a possible sale of 14,500 joint direct attack munition tail kits consisting of 10,000 for the Mk-84, 500 for Mk-83, and 4,000 for Mk-82,” the notice says. “[Also] 3,500 Mk-82 bombs, 4,500 Mk-83 bombs, 50 BLU-113 bombs, 4,100 small diameter bombs, 1,500 Mk-83 paveway kits, 700 BLU-109 paveway kits, 3,000 hellfire missiles, 250 AIM-120C AMRAAMs, and 500 detector laser illuminated target kits for JDAMs.
 
“The United States is committed to the security of Israel, and it is vital to US national interests to assist Israel to develop and maintain a strong and ready self-defense capability,” the notice adds.
 
The sale, if finalized, would be a windfall for US arms supplier, principally Boeing, Lockheed Martin, General Dynamics, Ellwood Group and Raytheon.

 

Broken down, here's what that amounts to:

BOMBS
MK-83  4,500 (1,000 lb bomb)
MK-82  3,500 (500 lb bomb)
SDB  4,100 (very small long standoff glide bomb, can penetrate 4 feet hardened concrete)
BLU-113  50 (large heavy bunker complex killer, deep penetration, huge explosion shock, massive crater)
TOTAL  12,150

JDAM TAIL KITS
MK-84  10,000 (for 2,000 lb bombs)
MK-83  500 (for 1,000 lb bombs)
MK-82  4,000 (for 500 lb bombs)
JDAM Laser Sensors  500 (unjammable, kills large moving targets, ships, tanks, trains, trucks, taxiing jets).
TOTAL  15,000

PAVEWAY KITS
MK-83  1,500 (for 1,000 lb bombs)
BLU-109  700 (General-purpose heavy bunker buster, moderate penetration, large explosion, deep crater)
TOTAL  2,200

MISSILES
Hellfire  3,000 (very effective anti-armor missile)
AMRAAM  250 (high probability of kill air to air missile, C version >75 km, new D version >180 km)
TOTAL  3,250

 

They're planning to take aggressive military action fairly soon.

The 250 AMRAAMs is interesting as they're apparently expecting to enter into BVR combat with at least one state, in the process of releasing this ordinance.

The 3,000 Hellfire's indicate helicopters and drones will be used extensively to back up a protracted armored ground force attack.

The 50 BLU-113s are dedicated 5,000 lb bunker buster bombs (630 lb of that is explosive) that forms the chassis of the GBU-28 'super-penetrator': https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GBU-28

It proved capable of penetrating over 30 meters (100 ft) of earth or 6 meters (20 ft) of solid concrete; this was demonstrated when a test bomb, bolted to a rocket sled, smashed through 22 ft (6.7 m) of reinforced concrete and still retained enough kinetic energy to travel a mile downrange.  

Israel acquired 55 of them in 2009: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/09/23/president-obama-secretl...

The IDF have probably used 5 or so in tests and perhaps another 5 on attacks on Syrian weapon bunkers west of Damascus, so the order for more of them should bring their total stock in hand to around 95 bombs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh6tCaH1bOY

The 700 BLU-109s are also hardened bunker busters and make a particularly large deep crater.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbPRFnzdYXo

 

So they're planning to destroy a very large number of someone's bunkers.

 

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 02:02 | 6268270 falconflight
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I'd be shocked if the Israelis attacked Iran while BHO is in office.  

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 02:29 | 6268298 Element
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They don't have either the resources, the range, or the geographical circumstances needed to mount a sustained heavy air warfare campaign across Jordan and Saudi Arabia, and then across the Persain Gulf to hit deep into the core of heavily defended Iran. So that is not going to happen, now or any decade soon. The Israeli talk about attacking Iran is all BS, they know perfectly well only a US coallition force can mount such an attack.

And the US won't do that for them, and I seriously doubt it ever will.

No, the target, or targets, will be much closer to Israel.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 05:22 | 6268418 Otrader
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Israleis rarely fight the serious wars themselves.  They attack women/kids/refugree camps, but the big ones are fought by American military.  As long as there are a chance of serious resistance, pass the torch to the goy to head to the slaughter.

 

  • During the Iraq War, 4,475 U.S. service members were killed and 32,220 were wounded; in Afghanistan, 2,165 have been killed and 18,230 wounded through Feb. 5, 2013.
  • Among service members deployed in these conflicts, 103,792 were diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) over the period 2002 to December 2012. Over that same period, 253,330 service members were diagnosed with a Traumatic Brain Injury (TBI) of some kind.
  • As a result of battle injuries in the Iraq War, 991 service members received wounds that required amputations; 797 lost major limbs, such as a leg. In Afghanistan, 724 have had to undergo amputations, with 696 losing a major limb.

total costs for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars as high as $6 trillion. 

Print, loan, receive interest, profit and repeat! 

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 07:05 | 6268476 Element
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Well yes, the 2006 indiscriminate heavy shelling and bombing of South Lebanese towns and villages as well as central south Beirut, could be added to your list there. But Israel does fight real war, and that was one of them, though very small in commitment terms. The air war with Syria in the early 1980s, to remove Syrian/Russian SAMs, was quite a bit more intense, but the IDF won that convincingly hence few wars occurred after that one. Except that Hezbollah rebelled and rolling up an insurgency against them, kicking them out of Lebanon completely.

But prior to that, the IDF fought four large and intense wars since 1948.

In all likelihood they figure Syria and then Hezbollah are now as ripe for the picking as they'll ever become, so nuttyoohoo has settled his election and leadership issues for a bit, so buy the weapons now and knock out Assad off, to clear Iran away from the borders (otherwise Iran may become even stronger in the area).

Washington will help because it weakens the Russian position (and that's definitely what I would do, if I were in Washington, at this point), and then install something else in Damascus (it doesn't really matter what ... for now ... as it will be too weak, divided and dependent to matter).

But at that point ISIS will now be the obvious neighbor and problem for Israel, and Hezbollah's base will be cutoff from Iran. So ISIS is Israel's perfect strategic excuse to go into Syria after ISIS too. And the world's leaders and military's cheer them on (except Iran), because ISIS are a pack of cunts after all, and Israel just wants to kill them.

So that's all good.

Thus everyone piles onto ISIS, from every side, rolls over ISIL territory, and just utterly wipes them out, completely. Serious relentless heavy firepower kills the lot of them, and anyone with them, or near them. And the Israelis, and Kurds, and Turks and Jordanians and Saudis and GCC will do just that, they will wipe out everyone (and in the general area of ... Megiddo lol ... so the US fundie 'religous' zionist right-wing rapture nuts will love that! ... lol  :D )... so they all pile in and blow the shit out of the Sunni pockyclyptic terrorist jerks ... which puts Iran back into its geopolitical box once more.

And with Assad gone, and Russia unable to help Iran much, Iran can not link over to Hezbollah any more.

So Israel then blows the shit out of Hezbollah's support base, at that point, and all of south Lebanon for a few months, and kills anyone else who wants to fight it out.

Wha-la! ... Iran and proxies defeated, and Iran is effectively shut out of the Levant, back to the pre-Iranian revolution strategic situation, and Syria is ruins, economy snuffed, its military pulverized.

Everyone's basically happy with that too, or can live with it ... well, all the states that matter are happy with it, anyway. Iran is very unhappy with it, but what can they really do?

Most Iraqis will now want all armies out of Iraq, and they will leave, or suffer another insurgency, but much worse this time. So everyone will pull out of Iraq.

The Saudis and GCC will go along with Israel doing this, as will Turkey, because it gets rid of Assad, and thus it gets rid of Iran's encircling and weapon and influence flow.

So once ISIL is crushed in Syria and Iraq, everyone will then turn their attention to smashing ISIL everywhere else, that it exists, as this is far from over.

But it leaves Iran with no rationale or excuse to be in Iraq, or to be in Syria, and they can;t sustain their links to South Lebanon any more.

Once again, everyone's happy with that outcome. So off they all trot from Syria and Iraq, to kill all the terrorist baddies, all over Saudi peninsula and Sinai.

Again, Israel and nuttyaahooey will be thrilled about that, as it cuts Gaza off too. So Israel helps out in that coalition battle, too. And guess what? Israel's security just dramatically improved. Plus Israel is fighting in a huge international coalition, alongside Arab and Western powers now. They are almost respectable!

So nuttyoohoo wins the next election, also.

AWESOME7777! ... etc.

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Perhaps it's that, or something like that, that they have cooked up. I really don't know. But that sort of plan would explain a lot of things that have occurred recently and currently. But perhaps that's all much too obvious, it could be something completely different which they have in mind.

But for sure, nuttyoohooey is buying these weapons to get rid of Iran, and its proxies, as an immediate threat. And the Sunni Arabs want the same thing. So it's a reasonable supposition that it is something big, like this, or something along those lines.

Or maybe they just needed $2 billion more US precision guided bombs for the fun of it.

All speculations.

 

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 14:18 | 6269392 BruntFCA
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The scenario you outlined on the surface seems to be the obvious game plan. However, as Mike Tyson said, "everyone has a plan until they're punched in the face". So many things could go pear shaped, could Egypt and its huge population be expected to play along? Hezbollah is armed to the teeth and they've shown that they can go toe to toe with IDF.

Another thing to concider is that some of these actors may go "balls in". I mean it's all but obvious you can't "out-wait" NATO like Gaddafi and Saddam found out; NATO will just use military calculus to slowly but inexorably garrote you. The more balls in the actors go the harder it is to plan - which plays against NATOs strengths in favour of the smaller actors. Mass casualties can't be politically sustained by NATO nations - any stupid moves by Bibbi could blow up in his ugly face.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 00:51 | 6270895 Element
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I agree with all of your comments.

I found this interesting last month, US JCS are expecting serious protracted warfare in multiple locations and are informing their commanders and diplomats why, and the nature of it, and are basically telling them to expect orders to have the forces thoroughly ready for a long period of intensive warfare. 

Published June 2015
http://fas.org/man/eprint/nms-2015.pdf

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 23:01 | 6267999 Anunnaki
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Jack

As in most coups and takeovers follow the cash

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/news/europe/9680-die-welt-egypts-army-...

Since the Military takoever in 52 and the emigration of most of the Jewish, Greek and Italian petit bourgeois the military stepped in and now control about half the economy parterning with some well placed oligarchs.

Factories, hospitals, agriculture. The Military racket has a piece of nearly everything

Morsi threatened to Democratize that if he could consolidate domestic institutions to take that away from their control and start turning it over to his MoBro clients amd supporters

No way. No how. But make the coup about stopping The Fundys and Neoliberalism lives on unimpeded causing more of a lopsided economy where the only option is emigration and sending remittances back to their extended family

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 21:03 | 6267722 teslaberry
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this article is fucking retarded.

 

egypt is going to disappear ANYONE that stages a revolt. military rule can be very very stable because of murder.

 

MURDER WORKS BITCHES.

u.s. cops murder 1000= AMERICANS A year and ameircans are pussy faggot moron idiots who do as they are told no different than stupid ass egyptians.

 

 

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 22:32 | 6267946 Element
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The somewhat positive thing to come out of what Islam is now doing to itself, is that at least the rest of humanity will watch for a couple of decades what happens when humans are dumb enough to step backwards 500 years into extremist religious fundamentalism as some sort of proposed self-hating suicidal 'solution' to their disgruntlement with modern shelter, food, clothing, civility, education, good health, development and trade ...

Which has been so unacceptable and upsetting, hasn't it?

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 01:38 | 6268251 NeoRandian
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How many hugs have you had today?

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 02:49 | 6268310 Element
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I could go a good steak sandwich instead.  :D

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 23:48 | 6268081 cigarEngineer
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"You are a moron. Are you egyptian? Do you have family there? No ? Then STFU"

Hahaha. The people there are morons too. Just try asking someone in the USSA what's going on. They will parrot the media. Just because they are there doesn't mean they don't get spoonfed the same bullshit on TV.

Fri, 07/03/2015 - 23:56 | 6268092 DaveA
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Any old fool can see what's happening; Thomas Malthus understood it two centuries ago. Egypt has twice as many people as its land can feed. Singapore (average IQ 108) buys almost all its food on the global market, but Egypt (average IQ 81) has nothing to trade.

Egypt's complex, ever-shifting factions of blood, faith, and ideology (including "democracy") are just a game of musical chairs to decide who eats and who dies.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 17:38 | 6269885 Faeriedust
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You distort the meaning of "average intelligence". The intelligence of normal people is not so much increased in areas of higher "average" intelligence, as is the incidence of the truly mentally defective.  This, in turn, results most often from 1) poor developmental nutrition, in and out of the womb, 2)literal brain damage, often during birth when medical assistance is less than excellent, and 3) prenatal, perinatal, and neonatal exposure to toxins.  All of the above are simply symptoms of an impoverished nation.  

By comparing Egypt's lack of international exports to Singapore and attributing it to lack of intelligence, what you are really saying is, Egypt is poor because it is poor.  But it IS a vicious cycle.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 00:47 | 6268176 talisman
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al Sisi is determined to exterminate all terrorist extremists-
-down to the last man-that have been destroying Egypt
from the inside for many decades...
These terrorists are finally at last getting the picture
that they will not survive alive under al Sisi. 
Facing this guaranteed certain annihilation,
they have become desperate for their very lives.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 01:51 | 6268257 nevertheless
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If there is a democracy who thinks for itself, get ready for our beloved CIA to incite a coup...

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 04:29 | 6268373 lolmao500
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Fucking ISIS scum needs to die, wherever they are... but first we should cut off their funding and who arms them. The culprits are in Washington DC, Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar...

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 05:16 | 6268415 Firewood
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I$I$, as Mercan as the rest of the rotten apple pie hubri$ poisoning the planet.

USSA is the disease!

 

 

http://syncreticstudies.com/2015/06/28/electric-yerevan-and-lessons-on-t...

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 07:33 | 6268494 overmedicatedun...
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Somolia is the ideal state as far as USA policy is concerned.

"Due to a lack of funding and human resources, an arms embargo that made it difficult to re-establish a national security force, and general indifference on the part of the international community, President Yusuf found himself obliged to deploy thousands of troops from Puntland to Mogadishu to sustain the battle against insurgent elements in the southern part of the country. Financial support for this effort was provided by the autonomous region's government. This left little revenue for Puntland's own security forces and civil service employees, leaving the territory vulnerable to piracy and terrorist attacks.[148][149]

On 29 December 2008, Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed announced before a united parliament in Baidoa his resignation as President of Somalia. In his speech, which was broadcast on national radio, Yusuf expressed regret at failing to end the country's seventeen-year conflict as his government had been mandated to do.[150] He also blamed the international community for its failure to support the government, and said that the speaker of parliament would succeed him in office per the Charter of the Transitional Federal Government.[151]"

 

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 17:29 | 6269859 Faeriedust
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Modern, centralized States cannot be maintained on medieval economies.  And the wealthy industrialized nations can no longer afford to maintain such States as charity.  Therefore, many poor nations will have to collapse their governments back to the size and mandates appropriate to their incomes.  OEDC states should set up agreements that provide for all parties to respect the boundaries of the undeveloped and not intervene in local politics.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 08:35 | 6268570 N0TME
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In the running up of the<b><i>July 3th</b></i>coup ...

 

Who wrote this?

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 09:41 | 6268661 22winmag
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They hate us for our Secretaries of State.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 09:52 | 6268682 Salzburg1756
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Islam teaches violence and terrorism against non-believers. So, I'm supposed to give a rat's ass about the devotees of this religion? Please. Muslims should be expelled from all countries with significant non-muzzy populations.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 11:11 | 6268837 fowlerja
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I knew the Egyptian nation was going to have problems as a country throughout their history...any country that builds a pyramid to bury one person is asking for trouble..this is just not sustainable...

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 12:29 | 6269051 dogismycopilot
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The Middle East is a social experiment fucked up beyond all repair.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 17:21 | 6269838 Faeriedust
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The Middle East is experiencing a massive population boom without the income, resources, or social stability to accommodate it.  This is what the Limits To Growth looks like on the ground. Welcome to Peak Oil.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 16:19 | 6269707 Xiuhcoatl
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The current situation in Egypt is no more a civil war than the recent shootings by a white supremacist in a black church in South Carolina was part of a civil war.

In regards to Mohamed Morsi, Egypt's fifth president - he was attempting to force Sharia on Egypt, a country deeply divided as to the proper role of religion in politics.

After the resignation of Hosni Mubarak in February 2011, elections for a new president were held in May-June 2012. Many Egyptians had doubts about Morsi's capacity to govern democratically, but he was given the benefit of the doubt. The doubts turned out to be well-founded, and Morsi's popularity sank from 57 percent at the time of the elections to 28 percent in May of the following year.

Opposition to Morsi was to be found in many sectors of society, including the military, and among the secular liberals, who were being excluded from the political process. The dire straits of the Egyptian economy was not helping Morsi either.

Perhaps his main problem was that he was trying to use his narrow parliamentary majority to force through highly partisan legislation, instead of trying to build consensus.

In January 2014 he managed to ratify a new constitution for Egypt with a turnout of only 32 percent of eligible voters.

Many Egyptians felt that the revolution that had led to Hosni Mubarak's downfall had been betrayed by Morsi. His unpopularity led to widespread unrest. The Army, viewed with favor by the majority of Egyptians for its willingness to step aside and let Mubarak fall, were seen as a sort of protector of democracy. They had enough legitimacy to successfully depose Morsi in a bloodless coup on 3 July 2013.

New elections were held in May 2014, bringing former general and defence minister Abdel Fattah el-Sisi to office.

The Egyptian government is now fighting Islamic extremists in the Sinai Peninsula, and in Egypt proper. The extremists view themselves as a branch of D'ash (a/k/a ISIS or the "Islamic State"). Their main goal at present is to overthrow Egypt's government and subsume Egypt into their future Islamic superstate, after the requisite number of beheadings.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 17:18 | 6269830 Faeriedust
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"The current situation in Egypt is no more a civil war than the recent shootings by a white supremacist in a black church in South Carolina was part of a civil war."

Thank-you.  As the recent shootings most definitely WERE yet another episode in America's Civil War, continuing now for over 150 years, I can take the rest of your post in proper context.


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