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Massive "No" Demonstration Floods Athens' Syntagma Square As Tsipras Speaks - Live Webcast
Shortly before Greek PM Tsipras spoke at today's huge "No" rally on Syntagma square, scuffles in the crowds of protesters broke out and police have resorted to stun grenades and tear gas.
As Reuters reported, "Greek police threw stun grenades and scuffled with protesters in central Athens on Friday, as a rally got under way in support of a 'No' vote in a Sunday referendum on whether to endorse an aid deal with creditors. The scuffles involved a few dozen people, many dressed in black and wearing helmets but quickly appeared to calm."
Luckily, the violence was scattered and promptly dissipated.
Instead it has been replaced with one of the biggest people gatherings on Syntagma square in history:
I've stood on this roof a few times over the years - and this is as big a crowd as I can remember. #oxi #greece pic.twitter.com/1vzUlEd2FH
— Mark Lowen (@marklowen) July 3, 2015
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Snipers yet...?
... maybe on both sides?! :-D
... maybe the U.S. says Russia is giving them weapons?
Hope Kanellos is still around, biting the goons in the ass.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ugIa4KQiCj8&itct=CAMQpDAYCyITCJTUtcnGv8YCF...
The answers to the problems the Greeks are facing are not collectivist answers so there is absolutely no reason to attend any such rallies. Why make yourself a target for incidental violence or worse when the most you can accomplish is to shout your opinion at the top of your lungs to people who aren't listening?
I miss Riot Dog.
Release the Riot Dogs!!!!!
They love a good riot/party
Even have their own Wiki page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riot_dog
Riot dog is a term used by English-speaking media denoting any of the stray dogs that, in recent years, accompany street protesters in Athens, Greece.[1] It has been observed that a number of these dogs remain among the protesters even when violent rioting breaks out.[2][3] Some of the dogs have been prominently featured in media reportage on the protests.[4] Greece's Riot Dogs have acquired, through the years, a large following of fans around the world.[5][6][7]
I just hope the Greeks haven't eaten them all by now...
Paul Krugman, Joseph Stiglitz, Alexis Tsipras, Zero Hedge, Noam Chomsky & the IMF all explicitly or implicitly back a no vote.
Signs of the apocalypse #…
Google AIIB bank map, Greece is not a member, Germany is. The dollar only has to run faster then the other fiat currencies, including the EURO. This is very well played by the americans, first the IMF asked for the pension cuts, making the deal impossible, now they ask for the haircut which renders the ECB insolvent and collapses the euro.
A logical course of events, but what happens when the same thing happens to the rest of EU countries and of course, the USSA itself? Long term there is no safe haven, except the precious...
The last fiat currency standing will set the rules for the new improved fiat regime.
Stand your ground greece. HOLD...HOLD
Yawwwwn. This little side show has been playing out for 7 years already. When the banksters stop playing with Greece like a cat toy, the main event can begin.
Spain, Italy and finally France. All as bankrupt as Greece, but large enough to shake the EU to it's core. It will probably drag out for another decade. These assholes can never face reality head on like men.
The EBC MUST PRINT it's way out of this, just like the fed has. Watch for the euro to head much lower.
You know what I find interesting...but not really because I understand how the mind controlling elites behave. Not one major media outlet is showing this live on TV. Why you ask? Because they want to frame the talking points and not allow you to decide for yourself. The world is sick, it is run by a bunch of derilicks, perverts and degenerates who think they know what is best. A revolution can not come to quickly!
If they were muslims the MSM would be nonstop coverage
And all you hear on msm is "conspiracy theorist conspiracy theorist " and my response is. STFU! TREASONOUS SCUM!
The scientific method teaches us the following process towards which a concept or idea becomes fact.
Hypothesis - Theory - Law
We need to coin a new phrase. If the PTB/MSM insist on using the expression "conspiracy theorist" in an effort to discredit factual and logical deductions, then I want to be referred to as a "conspiracy lawyer".
Yes, KANELLOS the Riot Dog. Lucky for you, all you have to do is click the video above and he lives on.
were is million dollar baby when you don't need him?
His name was Loukanikos. Repeat - 'His name was Loukanikos'!
https://youtu.be/lSjlFhRRW0g
There are three. Kanellos was the original, then came Loukanikos and Thodoris.
Too bad all the dogs here in North America are either put down, coddled into TV-watching eaters, or on the canine version of SSRIs. Those dogs in Greece can navigate subway stations.
Actually, since the election of the Syriza, there have been no problems with cops beating the shit out of protesters in Syndagma square, so that's that.
Can't they just spray some windex on this and make it all better.
No, but all words are derived from Greek...
May be Nuland will bring cookies?
Hopefully, she'll bring some baklava (with sesame, pistachio and brown sugar paste). Yummy.
Notice how the rioters always discredit the anti status-quo side, never the pro status-quo side.
I don't see Soros or Nuland running around. Im sure their pawns are preparing their dirty work. And who is watching the actual count. I remember the Scottish count was rigged so bad that you could see in the videos the miscounting going on. Then they closed the count and made it final. No recount. We will never know what really happened in Scottland. Will we get a real count in Greece? I dont know but I hope so.
I never understood the "sanctitiy of vote". To me all it does is enable fraud, but if I'm to propose a practical solution, how about giving every ballot a serial number. Then if they post the results online, I can look up my number to confirm whether I actually voted the way they say I did.
That being said, I'm not a big fan of voting to begin with. Compliance with the will of the majority? I'm an individual, period. What is the point voting, when I'm not going to cooperate with my opposition or alter my views? I'll be with like-minded people, regardless, or by myself if necessary.
In a Constitutional Republic my rights should be protected... or at least so I've read in some ancient fairy tale.
We need Techno Viking!
When do they start smashing plates?
1. Most Greeks say "No!".
2. Through the Western media will be announced that the vote count was rigged.
3. The opposition take to the streets to protest against electoral fraud and announced that he does not recognize the results of the referendum.
4. Mass riots and clashes with the police will begin.
5. Unidentified snipers will be shoting the opposition demonstration.
6. To suppress the well-organized and well-armed rebels, the Greek government will be forced to use the army.
7. The Government of Greece will be announced "not legitimate." Because the Greek Government is "using snipers and army" against the "peaceful and democratic", but very well-armed opposition.
8. After that, they will create the club of "Friends of Greece," led by the United States.
9. In Greece, will be introduced "no-fly zone."
10. "The dictatorial regime of Greece and his army" will be destroyed bombings of the Air Force of NATO.
11. The minority opposition will be represented as the Western media as "the people of Greece." Most of the people of Greece will be represented as the Western media as a "separatist".
Dat u Nostradamus?
Today, everyone can be Nostradamus, when he remembers how the events took place in Iraq, Kosovo, Kyrgyzstan, Libya and Ukraine.
no, i think is Nullandamus ...
Ding,Ding,Ding,,,Lets get ready to Rumble!
Rumble - Link Wrayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXLo1YAUQBE
Israeli snipers too busy shooting Pali kids in the back. Awaiting more US taxpayer $$$.
Tax Payer Dollars, NOW THAT IS FUNNY! Try printing Press Dollars !
There is no way the tax dollars would make a dent in what the US Guberment spends.
End this Ponzi and FREE the Slaves ! Yes, you are a SLAVE too !
Yes, but the US taxpayer is on the hook for all the expenses of the israelis. All of them.
Brave comments. Gotta log in to show support. The walls slowly crumble.
But they didn't have to build islands. Like China.
What an utter load... that if your life depended upon substantiating, you'd be suffering rigamortis by dinner time. To see all the up arrows confirms the Putin-Mohammedan agitprop nature of the posters. Total US aid since 1948 to the Israelis, which btw was nearly zero until post Six Day War, is the cost of US operations in Iraq for one year (roughly 100 bil, and to Egypt roughly 40 bil).
Personally, I would rejoice if the Iranians and the Russians got together and swept Israel into the Mediterranian.
No - we need somewher to ship the dual citizen Choesnites. Build a big wall around Israel and let them do whatever to themselves, leaving the rest of the world alone.
A parasite without a host is doomed to extinction.
Nice try but epic fail.
Can falcons fly with their head up their ass?
Right down to the last jelly donut.
Soros nazis are too busy in Ukraine thankfully. They will have to get some Blackwater guys or maybe ISIS volunteers can get flown in on Soros private jet to stir things up. If they get hurt its just a hop skip and a jump to the Israeli hospitals.
No, just Arabs promoting their form of PR. Fucking liar
If this happened in the USA the FBI and local police would beat every single one of the protesters man woman and child to a bloody pulp and then pepperspray them.
And their dogs.
Yes, they would, and with all of the psychopathic glee that they can muster. Unfortunately for them, they are grossly outnumbered. The social tipping point hasn't been reached yet in the USSA. The inevitable collapse of the USD will be the catalyst. Once the mercenaries (LEO's) lose the monetary incentive to continue tyrannizing over the hearts and minds of their own citizens, then the tables will have turned, and the uniforms and badges will be quickly discarded in an effort to save themselves from annihilation.
They should have some ritual sacrifices of banksters. Hang a few of them to get the ball rolling.
Fun is just beginning in The Netherlands too....3 nights of unrest...tonight may become the 4th straight night..in a 'peaceful' G-7 nation...:)......hague arrests
And then there are protests against Deutsche Bank in Padua, Italy.....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JETvLJCp-8o
Netherlands riot in The Hague is just a bunch of low life EBT scum rioting over the death of some drunk Aruban guy in a "Little Detroit" area.
So, no different that the "troubles" anywhere else and two wrongs make a right.
Cool.
Dig it
There will be no arrests...................and if there is they will be let out to vote accordingly
Clear generational divide:
Yes / No by age group
Correct. Pensioners are more likely to vote "yes". Young people, who are facing unemployment figures of +50%(!) in Greece, feel they have nothing left to lose and are more likely to vote "no".
It's ironic that the public-sector pensioners that Syriza spent so much effort courting at home and negotiating for in Europe will turn against them. Ironic but not really suprising.
Same happened in Scotland. Media announced the separatists were leading, and included dire warnings of what would happen, scaring apathetic unionists out en masse.
i disagree. southern european youth lives on their parents dime regardless of the unemplyoment rate, so what makes you think they would want to work? they leave the parents house when they get married, which doesn't happen before 30-35 as they are not independent or mature enough before that age. if they earn anything, it's for having fun, not for the living expenses because they are covered. it's a cultural thing.
Old people voting status quo???
WHEEEEE............
No more free ride.
So Um ya about those Greeks are a civil people speeches the other day... If you're starving, broke and gave zero to lose you'll burn thing too ... Civil or not.
Does the same apply to exceptional "folks"?
Tsipras better be very careful with words now...situation seems explosive.
TWO CHOICES
1) Vote YES and let the BEAST digest you slowly with ZERO HOPE of Recovery this century.
OR
2) Vote NO ; Detach yourselves from the Beast, endure short term Pain and Begin the Recovery knowing that your Future Allies ( China & Russia and others ) will ease your burden and help you build bottom-up.
D'UH
Just like Krugman says! Damn, if Krugman and ZH agree it must be tr...
Where is the NAI demonstration?
Here is hoping sanity prevails and Greeks go all Sparta on the Empire of Debt
Have the cookies distribution started?
Greece will soon turn into another Ukraine ...
And of course it's all Putins fault ...
Waiting for the next country which desperately needs an overthrow of its government ...
The more unrest and blood and chaos in the streets the more opportunities for the money changers and hyaenas ...
Either pay those 25% interest - or you are fed to the sharks
Until I see a dog running around it's not an official "riot"
www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxeIivNDtFU
A group of students were peppered sprayed in the USSofA when on a sit-down peaceful protest.
Said it a few years ago back on Z/H that witnessing the action of the police ( under orders from the Gestapo no doubt ) made me ILL and still riles me, however, witnessing the non-action of the Parents and Public showed me that you'd accepted your sorry LOT.
The Gestapo would latch onto this and the Trend would continue. Now it's much worse as everyone should know if you give the bully an inch he'll make the rest of your schooldays a misery.
I don't understand the lyrics or the language but I'm fairly certain the overall message is "Fuck you Germany!"
NEIN and we'll be fine!
Lets hold an outdoor concert...lol
Greece with a population of 10.2 million ( half a million of their best and brightest skipping town and being utilised by their European Competitors to enhance their own Economies ). The best doctors, engineers, scientists, teachers, nurses etc etc ensuring Quality of Life erodes.
Greater Athens has 3.5 million
Thessaloniki has 1.1 million
Almost half the total population of the country in these 2 Cities.
The cost of a referendum is negligible if the NO VOTE comes OUT INTO THE STREET on SUNDAY while the SHAME FACED YES VOTE remain Indoors.
SIMPLES
i bet the helmeted ones causing the friction were furnished by the troika.
Tsipras don't want to continue kicking the can down the road, we are all doomed! Oh noes!
How would Amerika vote?
Amerika would vote YES.
It is well known psychology that dimwits have a tendency to vote YES to any question. Especially as a cover for ignorance of what the question actually means.
Irrespecitve of what the question is - the answer is YES more often than not.
How would Jesus vote?
He voted with his wings with some nudging from the Temple Masters.
Whether yes or no, what a beautiful thing to see people getting out and voicing their opinions and standing up for what they believe in. God Bless the Greeks. DEMOCRACY BITCHEZ!
Meanwhile in the USA people are too busy sitting on their fat asses, stuffing their faces with cheetos, and watching the fucking Kardashians to actually give two shits about the future of their country.
I suppose that's what occupy wall street does these days.
Some say the hippies did something in the 60s,
But Nixon took it to the bitter end, bombing Cambodia and leading to the rise of the Khmer Rouge and genocide.
More of the same if you ask me.
The hippie movement was a controlled opposition farce.
http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2014/06/RIR-140625.php
Perhaps. But let us give thanks to their photoshop skills and that internet-breaking Kardashiass.
All of us are NOT sitting on our asses...We in Texas are organizing> www.OpTexas.org <Operation Texas
on the bright side, maybe some cheap real estate coming on the market soon, at drachma prices.
Freedommmmmmmmmmmm!
[Standard Mel-Gibson-in-Braveheart photo.]
If only what happened to Wallace would happen to Gibson.
I'd pay money to see that!
No prizes for guessing why:
"There's no such thing as [banned by Tyler] power and if you say there is they'll destroy you."
Joe Sobran
It's refreshing to see that hatred out in the open for a change.
To me - it is as if all the people who bought US real-estate at the very peak - held a rally to declare they had no intention of honoring their commitments.
At the very least - their credit should be destroyed.
You sound a lot like Hank the Shank
Remarks by Secretary Henry M. Paulson, Jr. U.S. Housing and Mortgage Market Updatehttp://www.treasury.gov/press-center/press-releases/Pages/hp856.aspx
Just like the real-estate agent who purchased the house next to ours in the States for 1.4MM - at the very worst moment - and then sank another $250K in remodeling. Somehow she still owns the property but hasn't made a mortgage payment in years. That by the way is not the only property she owns - purely speculation. It all comes down to ethics.
If the financier can produce a deed she will be tossed but, too bad, the deed is somewhere in a pile of derivatives that has been resold numerous times. Just who are the unethical ones?
Where's the deed?!?!?!!!
Help me out here - if she found a buyer tomorrow for 3MM - should she/could she accept the offer ? (a sincere question as I have no clue).
btw - we moved.
a title is neccessary for any sale or purchase or repossession.
The lender (or successor) would most likely prevent that from happening because they make moar money these days from loans that don't get paid back.
you are mistaking ethics for business. the only issue is affordability and that was the banks' fidicuary responsibility to determine if the buyer could afford to repay the loan.
No. This is more like Iceland where you have a few politicians that are swade/payed off by their banking buddies to secure loan that were backed up by the government. Everyone new that Greece could not pay back the loans and all the bankers involved never thought about the crisis they are facing now. They all thought payment was in the bag. Not so fast. Before this plays out you will see a few bankers and politicians in jail or better yet hanged!! As more citizens figure out what the bankers and politicians have sold them into we will see more dead bankers and politicians. Right now the ratio doesn't matter but soon it will be more politicians. Also, wait until the pension mess rears it's ugly head. Soon!!!
Whatever they purchased wasn't delivered, they want a refund.
Don't fead the trolls
No trolls - just a happy couple now retired in Mexico.
This short video might give you a new perspective on how far ethics will get you when dealing with bankerz.
Mortgage Bankers Association Strategic Defaulthttp://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/qatlaz/mortgage-bankers-association-st...
Does anyone remember the Silent Majority?
We will see Sunday.
This is more like those toxic loans that used to be illegal before Greenspan, Summers, Rubin pushed deregulation through treasonous congress and traitor Clinton. Then people bought houses with blow up loan features secretly attached to them.
+1
Leave the EU!
Maybe the Greeks can harvest their children's organs in exchange for palestinian support.
whut?
as a matter of fact, only israelis and american jews have been convicted of organ trafficking from dead palis they killed.
Electronic InFanToilet much?
maybe you can post inane crap
get lost
The Greeks will vote YES, and even if they don't, their PM and Syriza will submit to the Troykia. Their exit from the Euro will utterly crush what's remaining of their largest GDP contributor; tourism. A extremely devalued Drackma (sp) isn't the answer.
Ok first you are uttering some bullshit. Leaving the euro ---> going back to the drachma would support tourism. Haven't you ever travelled to a place where the currency is weaker than your own? You can buy more things, do more things, rent more things. A tourist State, that which Greece is, wants a lower value in their currency to increase the amount of goods sold.
I disagree strongly, the volume of tourism necessary to overcome the near zero drachma worth isn't possible. I suppose they could/would accept the Euro. Hey I'm all for the demise of the EU, but Greek leadership hasn't made a single effort to prepare...educate the public about just how bad it's going to get in the short to mid term. Syzira is just as deceptive as is the EU.
iceland provides the model. they have recovered, the only western nation able to make that claim. fuck the eu is the best path.
Iceland is a tiny state with a population a fraction of Athens. I'm not supporting the EU, but Syzira is lying to the people.
May be, at least it looks like they have no plan B, unfortunately its not even clear if they have a plan A.
Schnitzelfaces no longer welcome in Greece. And thats a good thing.
Unbelieveable. I'd bet, without even looking up the stats that Germans are the largest percentage of tourists to Greece.
Tourism accounts for approx. 20% of Greek GDP. Just read that bookings are being crushed since early in the week.
Since most of Greece's GDP consists of internal transactions, like most countries, the currency denomination is irrelevant for that. It matters for imports and exports and there they would be better off with a weaker currency attracting more exports (incl tourism), reducing imports and providing exchange rate protection for import-substitution production.
Bwwwwaaaa, do you Goebbels-Mohammedans prefer to bleat, mooo or more likely suuuueeeee!?
So many KremlinHasbras, gettng OT for 4th of July?
How's the weather in Tel Aviv?
21C, how bout Leningrad?
The useful idiots. What a sight.
The big question is WHO'S administering the referendum?
Remember Scottland.
What kind of so called party (Syzira) claiming to represent the best interests of the People, begs the EU to forgive debt that it incurred only four years ago in exchange for requesting more credit in order to remain in power? Is that what passes as ZH intellect?
Did Syriza incur debt 4 years ago?
No they did not. But it's a decades long trend, and Syriza is on one hand bascially asking for debt forgiveness and at the same time asking for more credit. If they, the Greek gov't was NOT asking for more credit, I'd say Syriza was a legitimate representative, but they are not, they lie with the bravado of Obama and Company.
Apparently socialism means something different in Europe...
there hasn't been a politician since mlk who could draw a crowd like this and we all know what happened to him.
History will ask the same question about them both.
Why didn't someone put them down before they did any real damage, not after?
Go Greece GO!!! Fuck the banksters. Piss on their money. How much worse can it get?
Burn down the banks.
Darn, sure wish America had a leader like that instead of an illegal alien usurper lying arse puppet for the most corrupted evil bankster empire ever in the history of the world. The out right evil in corruption and criminality as demonstrated by the likes of hellery cliton the wicked lying homosexual bitch from hell very well.
It is only a small matter of time until the evil nation falls under it's own weight. The stupid leadership of the usa that is bought and paid for garbage from the bottom of the evil trash heap of hell will go down in history as the very worst that mankind has ever seen. Nowhere in the world has a country declared war on the world for material things, greed, and now prepares to go to war against it's own people. The world picture is the most horrific in history and no one cares to stop the evil destruction planned for the world of human beings.
There is no more real law enforcement any moar anywhere in the world now. They are all turned chicken, and ware drapers and lace panties for their globalist zionist satanic masters from hell. The darn shame is, they have the worlds most dangerous toys to continue murdering innocent peoples with. That material god called money has taken control of 99% of most peoples minds, and hearts. Just wait till it is no moar. Coming soon to a theatre near you soon!
Yeppers, this whole shit show is so farked up beyond belief, it has to die. The asshats at the top MUST be the first to go for that walk on that short plank to be shark food ASAP!
Go ahead baylon, let your minion flunky retard isrealli evil mosad do another false flag event like all the rest they have done. (too many to list) THE WORLD WILL KNOW YOU DID IT.
Go ahead babylon, fire that first shot at a real innocent American and then see what happens. THE ENTIRE US COUNTRY KNOWS WHO THE REAL ENEMIES OF AMERICA ARE AND THEY ARE NOT FOREIGN. THEY ARE ONLY DOMESTIC ENEMIES THAT HIRE MERCENARY ARMIES THAT ARE PAID FOR BY AMERICAN TAX PAYER MONIES AGAINST THEIR WILL. AL-CIA-DUH IS THE PROBLEM. YOU WANT TO STOP ISIS/AL-CIA-DUH? NUKE LANGLEY FOR A START, THEN NUKE THE THE KNESSIT ASSWIPE ISREALLY LEADERSHIP OFF THE MAP. ONLY THEN WILL TERRORISM FOR PROFITS WORLD-WIDE STOP. ONLY THEN WILL THE WORLD BE SAFE FROM THE SATANIC/ZIONIST MONSTERS OF HELL THAT USE THE MONEY GOD TO CONTROL THE WORLD.
Have a nice fourth of July. It may not mean a thing next year because at the rate these asshats are going there may be no world left, be it struck by some incoming object, or blown up from man's stupidity and idiot usage of weapons of mass destruction. There is only one thing worse than the stupid arseholeS that cause all this madness and mayhem, and that is the stupid people that let them and keep electing these cretinous traitorous farknots back into office.
Yes, change is coming babylon. YOU start it, and the world will finish it and the rothschoilds and ALL THEIR MINIONS are at the top of every hunters list. The price for head trophies will be phenomenal and the competition to get them fierce! Same with the american leaders too. Top dollar for the heads on plates!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIaPIy4Mddg
Simple really.
Invite Wolfgang to results announcement. Announce "no" regardless.
Then kick ol Wolfgang in the ass til his nose bleeds.
Basically Iceland the bitch.
Greek gov’t debt as a percent of GDP is far higher than any other EU nation, why?
http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/government-finance-statistics/statistic...
Why does Greece rate special treatment when other EU members have as high poverty rates?
http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/File:At-risk...(%25)_YB14_II.png
What’s wrong with Greek society that its poverty stats show a huge divergence from the rest of the EU based on single parent households w/ dependent children?
http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/File:At-risk...(%25_of_specified_population)_YB14_II.png
This is nothing.
Wait till the mob actually vote OXI (or Syriza pretend they have---trust me, they're printing fake OXI ballots with what remains of Greece's paper supply as we speak).
Then Athens' finest will really make the FSA's eyes water, with the army bringing up the rear.
Stop sucking Tsipras' cock. He's the biggest mangina in Europe, completely under the control of his partner Betty Batziana. She devoted her life to becoming the Big Sister of communist Greece, and now she is, in control of her man and her country beyond Hillary's wildest dreams.
Batshit Betty is using her Alexis to challenge anybody who wants to take Greece from her to yank it out of her cold dead hands. Pray the army calls her bluff sooner rather than later.
Don't vote. Run.
Look at how the Greek society has self aggrandized to its lowest common denominator through the decades. A constant spiraling trend of stealing from future generations and other nations to pander for votes. Syzira is just another, but even worse socialist promise. Greece is just about the worst in the world for increasing public debt.
"The position of Greece, as compared with the rest of the world, has worsened in 2014 in terms of GDP percentage. Currently it is country number 178 in the list of debt to GDP and 167 in debt per capita, out of the 179 we publish."
http://countryeconomy.com/national-debt/greece
@FF You speak of the mutually beneficial relationship between politicians and bankers who work to the detriment of their host. History demonstrates people left to their own would simply be farmers and shepherds, living within their means and accepting nature's occasional pitilessness. But introduce Mephistopheles to the story with his clever sales pitch...