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With 6 Hours Until The Greek Vote, This Is Where We Stand
With just hours to go until Greeks head to the ballot box to decide the country's fate in the eurozone, the latest polls show a nation divided with only a half percentage point separating the "no" votes from the "yes" votes.
Underscoring the 'dead heat' preliminary poll results, the yes's and the no's staged dueling protests in the streets of Athens on Friday night. All told, as many as 50,000 people participated in the competing demonstrations with PM Alexis Tsipras making an appearance at the "No" rally.
As a reminder, this is the schedule for the referendum:
WHEN ARE RESULTS DUE
- Polling stations will be open from 7am to 7pm local time and the result may be known before midnight
- Pollsters haven’t confirmed if there will be exit polls; if there are any, they will come immediately after the polls close
- Software distributor SinglularLogic, which has been hired to run the vote counting and data processing, should be able to provide an estimation of the winner a few hours after polls close
- JPMorgan expects ~90% of votes will have been counted by midnight, based on past general elections in Greece; vote counting could be even faster this time as it’s a yes or no question
And this is where things stand:
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As noted earlier today, Athenians are restless and we can't help but wonder what the scene will be in the streets of Athens on Sunday evening once the results are tallied and one of these two dueling groups is forced to acquiesce to the other's vision of Greece's future.
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So basically
A) FU Europe
or
B) FU Siriza, we want a Western puppet
A NO vote is for freedom.
A YES vote is for slavery.
Germany's third attempt at conquering Europe will fail.
dumbfuck sheeps for free instant money & open banks and no whine coz in 10 years all actual old fucktards willl be dead....
i predict a yes instant unlock banking for a 60-40%
i pay my beer to all ZH if i'm wrong.
I.T
Send my beer to...
Thomas O'Brien
12223B Woodside Avenue
Lakeside, Ca, USA 92040
I generally do not drink, about a year since I had a beer, but I will drink that one.
St.Pauli Girl. That is a good beer.
Tom --
You are TOO HONEST… You’ll hurt yourself !
MOAR Kabuki
A "No" vote or a "Yes" vote will both lead to slavery if Tsipras travelled to the U.S. in 2013 to sell out Greece to the Bush/Clinton GLOBALISTS.
BUSTED - Tsipras' Side By Side With T.Miller & D. Speckhard - What The Greek Media Purposely Ignored ~ HellasFrappe
Because if so then the question is actually does Greece join the "Good" Globalist controlled NWO now (NO vote) or stay with the "Bad" Globalist controlled NWO (YES vote) until the entire EU economy implodes and join the "Good" NWO later...
"If voting changed anything they would make it illegal" ~ Mark Twain
Tyler left out 14% undecided.
So it takes a few hours to count an electronic vote??? My old commodore64 could process faster than that.
Or does it take a few hours to rig the vote to someone's favor?
It's all down to Gres or Gro.
Please to send beer for Boris:
UL. Ya Mavra 86, #7-5309
Minsk, Belarus
request is substitute good potato Vodka!
(Please to wrapping bottle in plain brown paper. Spasibo!)
Rubbish
C/O California Institution for Men
14901 Central Avenue, Chino, CA 91710
PBR please
Greece is staying. The good guys never win. And the rich always get richer. Thems just the rules.
The people decide nothing!
Bloomberg, really? I would rather trust the AP or even Reuters, NOT... In other words, they are all full of shit and are trying to steer sentiment before the vote...
@tall tom
You can have mine....
Yeah, mine too. Fucking teetoallers make me paranoid.
Could you make mine a Manhattan? Jim Bean if at all possible or any straight bourbon will do, Gallo sweet vermouth though.
I have a feeling a 'Yes' vote would only unleash the real battle between the 'have' and 'have nots'
So you say the votes will actually be counted and the results wont be predetermined in favor of the Chosenite banksters?
Who owns the Polling company? How good is their security?
Paper ballots or it doesn't count.
can you say, "hanging chad"...? I knew you could....
without a paper ballot I predict the Troika already knows exactly what the count will be and your 60 - 40 sounds about right.
You got a bet, that will not be outcome
Betfair odds right now with close to $500k matched is YES 1.5, No 2.96. Looking to a vote of enslavement!
Does Biden have any more sons who can step in and run Greece?
...One is already running Ukraine.
Didn't that one just die?
No --> They're fucked.
Yes --> They're fucked.
Yes, but at least a NO vote...
..will mean the EU is fucked also !
"SinglularLogic, which has been hired to run the vote counting and data processing,"
Company is called SinglularLogic since calling it "ObviousCIAFrontCompany" would be a little too blunt,
Option #3 --- If they touch ANY deposits, hang the banksters,
and all of their enablers.
Yeah, really; well, it might be an IMF front; but it's just completely useless to do anything other than hand counting of paper ballots, district by district. How did the Greeks get this Oblivious.?
http://portal.singularlogic.eu/en/page/2361/subsidiaries
"Professional Computer Services S.A. (PCS) is a member of the SingularLogic Group with more than 20 years experience in developing integrated IT solutions for the finance sector in fields such as mutual funds, custodianship, wealth management, private and personal banking, and internet and mobile banking.
PCS has significantly expanded its operations into foreign markets such as Romania, Luxembourg, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Serbia, Turkey and Poland, and has provided specialized solutions to some of Europe’s largest banks and financial organizations such as Volksbank (Romania), Alpha Bank, Bancpost (Romania), Marfin Egnatia Bank, EFG Eurobank, Hellenic Bank (Greece & Cyprus), Postbank (Bulgaria), Raiffeisen Polbank (Poland), Bank of Greece, Bank of Cyprus (Greece & Cyprus), Eurobank Tekfen (Turkey), and Hellenic Postbank, among others."
WHO COUNTS, WINS. Don't you Greekos geddit...
Voting for that matter, is a fraud anyway, albeit a very entertaining popcorn-worthy side show.
Muah ha.
Anybody know if;
You need to show ID to vote.
Do they let their illeag......eh..un- documented residents vote?
This is a classic case of damned if you do and damned if you don't. There's a lot of ZH'ers - including moi - who don't vote because they know that ultimately a single vote doesn't matter, the politicians are going to continue their wicked ways. So should Greeks just stay home? I haven't voted since 1996 for a lot of reasons, not the least of which is that I don't have the moral authority to assert my will against another human being. It's violence. Period. If I we were sitting over there and sipping a glass of retsina it's unlikely I'd go and pull the lever. Because there is no doubt that the bankers are going to find a way to convert whatever outcome to profit at my expense.
Yes vote = Dow up 300+
No vote = Dow down 300+
There will be enough No votes that the problem is not solved by a majority Yes
There will be enough No votes that the problem is not solved by a majority Yes
Election in the hands of SingularLogic.
I'm sure their balls are being squeezed real hard for a yes vote, or they'll never voik in dis business again, so to speak.
Software distributor Singulair Logic can tell you right now who's going to win; how in the fuck did people ever get stupid enough to accept voting machines; has no one seen the Congressional Testimony of the employee explaining to the Senators that their software "can make anyone you wish win". This is beyond pathetic.
Those who vote NO can just move to Somalia!!!
For acclimatization purposes, the YES voters go there next year.
And for those who vote Yes, Somalia will come to them.
Don't have to live like a refugee...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-TBpKGACmw
I prefer the "Forgotten Rebels, Bomb the Boats, Feed the Fish"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj-iqK0y4T4
No need to move, Greece becomes
Somalia either way.
Yeah, pretty much.
Is anyone getting paid over there right now?
With the vote split almost evenly, I would say the hole affair is pretty divisive. Couple that with severe economic hardship regardless of outcome and you have the stage set for civil war.
USA USA USA
Your profile picture is an anarchy symbol and you are talking shit because people don't want to be fucktoys of a kakistocracy. Makes sense to me.
obviously my sarcasm was lost in the post. rough crowd
You should have written Chicago instead of Somalia. Chicago is the default term for shithole around these parts.
Shitcago or Detoilet , either or
Ever been to Akron Ohio? It was 30 years ahead of it's time (and suspect it still is)
How about Port Talbot in south Wales even the locals call it Beirut.
The crowd has been fatigued by pro German Bank, and pro Enslavement paid trolls recently.
Sorry.
You've been a member for 5+ years, that's long enough to know that there's plenty of it and folks usually indicate it with summat like /s
I refuse to. If the crowd cannot get it then that is THIER PROBLEM...not mine.
If I make the mistake and I cannot discern it then I will man up and take responsibility for my lack of comprehension in that instance as it is my problem.
It may be your problem if people don't get it and red-arrow you. Your sarcasm is then wasted.
I'd rather waste good sarcasm on dumb people that make the comment totally NON sarcastic by putting on the /s tag.
P.S. Down arrows are for pussies.
P.P.S. Worrying about down arrows is for giant sloppy pussies.
Good sarcasm is never wasted. It makes you chuckle when you're in the shower scrubbing your genitals.
/s
Kakistocracy? Got to like your manipulation of Greek! I like it!
When you see a phony too close to call poll - you know they are setting up to steal the vote. My guess is Yes will win. I think they did the same thing in Scotland.
Obola stole 2012 and probably 2008 too.
81% of every population are apes in clothes.
Using that google app again I see ......http://tech.slashdot.org/story/15/07/01/1820245/google-apologises-for-ph...
we need a reason to click. No click bait provided - meh
"we need a reason to click. No click bait provided - meh"
Here's your 'click bait':
HEY BABY, IT'S THE FOURTH OF JULY!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_tyWt_9Bfs
OXI OXI OXI and OXI
81% ?????????????????????????must be some sort of "mispricing" ...
you meant 99.81 % .... not?
EU/IMF will use their printing press to buy enough votes [or vote counters] for a yes.
Centralized control of the money = centralized control of the polls.
With a vote that close, you know the TPTB's hands will be all over pushing the vote into the "YES" category. It benefits them to do so.
Just like the Scotland vote.
It bloomturd your " trusted scorce" for news/ Sarc
Keep calm and debt slave on Greeks!
(sarc) Because everyone knows how much I LOOOOVE Bloomturd and the tribe. (/sarc)
As an experiment "nobody votes then everyone can turn on their television to see what happened...
We could call it a "Vote Nobody" campaign...
It wouldn't work. Diebold would still have the dead voting 50 times and the YES tally would win. Dangling chad included.
It does not matter what people vote. It matters on just who counts the votes.
Stalin was right about that.
Civil War is what awaits regardless.
Tsipras will be killed if it is not approved.
... With a vote that close, you know the TPTB's hands will be all over pushing the vote into the "YES" category...
Maybe, but how exactly would a "Yes" vote make them less bankrupt ?
It provides time for an external event to occur upon hich they can blame their failure.
The people who cast the votes don't decide an election, the people who count the votes do.
Joseph Stalin
No surprise here. About 50% yes, and 50% no votes.
So they'll let Diebold figure it out.
Just like always!
Thats what I was thinking. Who is Singular Logic, and what country are they out of?
Las Vegas.
"I'm on the forth hole now and the results are coming in.
Jimmy The Greek gave me the over/under while Tony Soprano is suiting up. Millie Vanillie is jamming while Metropolis rolls on...
Cowdiddly,
Singular Logic is 82.7% owned by the Marfin Investment Group. They are investment bankers. Who would have guessed? Who still thinks the vote will be no?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marfin_Investment_Group
Great DD. Its over before it started. So, it is Bankers counting the votes on computers with hard drives that Kapersky labs have already discovered all are infected with code that can be taken over by our friends in NSA. You cannot use a computer count and have legitimate results morons. What happened to the Greek system of dropping colored stones in a pot or basket. USE THAT.
No wonder Dieselboom and Schnappsle were all too agreeable and all wanted a referendum first. Now they can say well " its what you wanted".
Someone's hard at work these days.
..and Marfin is owned by:
30% Pireaus Bank
15% Dubai Group
It seems Diebold is really good at making the vote really close. Oh the drama!!
If the vote was really being counted honestly they could give each votes a confirmation code they could log onto the internet or call up a 1-800 number to confirm their vote was indeed counted correctly. Heck Amex, VISA, FedEx and many other companies have been this type of tracking for decades. It's not that tough to do in the age of computers and internet.
On any legistlation or bills parliament is voting on, why don't they let the people of the country log in to a secure website to vote too, the technology is there and it is not expensive? (thank my wife for that observation)
If people are allowed to vote online the people might realize that they don't actually need policticians, congress prime ministers, presidents etc. That would piss off the lobbyists and banks.
Thanks wife.
It looks to me like you've got SOOOOO many people sucking on the government tit in one form or another, you've got a majority for perpetual debt servitude. This is how all public servants and their families, contractors, service companies and everybody else dependent on the government for their subsistence feel. Because they don't want their cushy ride to end. Someone has to pay for it and that's how they'll vote.
Its EXACTLY the same way in the US. Once you meet critical mass with the numbers dependent on government largesse, there is no going back, because majority rules and that tradition will never disappear.
40% public sector. That is 17% less than France has, which may point to where one of the real dangers lies.
The "deal" includes further reductions in pension payments, income tax increases and privitzation of public entities. Fairly anti-government employee IF you think about it.
If I'm a Greek govenment employee, my union will have more power IF Brussels is out of the way.
At this point, anything less than a 60/40 no majority, yes wins.
it will be yes. they will vote to stay slaves or it will be done for them . its a yes vote either way.
And, if you believe THIS poll, you're a moron.
Since when have pollsters gotten anything right?
So, let's see how this works: You poll 1,042 people out of millions, and you think you've got some answers
on how the whole nation feels? Polling is just another TOOL that the controllers have in their toolbox.
Next, someone will tell me that most news media tells the truth, too.
The question is, will the "fixers" of the voting mechanisms match the "votes" to the polls...
Exactly.
Every fucking vote is 49-51 it seems.
Always?
Scotland Referendum comes to mind.
Voting is a jewish trick.
49.5% vs 50.5% was the official tally of the last Quebec independence referendum.
Mind boggling to me that Greeks would remain slaves of debt forever by voting yes. Letting others decide their fate.
What has this planet come to. I am amazed, just amazed. A very sad day if they vote Yes.
"This vote is for PURELY enterrainment purposes:
We will return to our regularly scheduled programming shortly...
'Enterrainment'
Is that what Kim Jong Dim Sum believes a good vote fixing to be?
Bullshit.
It's realy 60+% No and ~30% yes.
But the Banksters have to pretend that it's close, so when the steal the vote it doesn't look too bad.
!!!!! BINGO !!!!!
!!!!! JACKPOT !!!!!
Who is behind the Yes vote? It seems the argument on both sides is about the same, The Yes side say a Yes vote will help Greece, avoiding a painful Grexit, the No side says voting No will lead to better terms. We will never know which side (if either) is right, since only one outcome will actually occur.
People that are hoping the No vote wins so they can witness a Grexit, do not dispair if Yes wins, the Grexit will most likely still come, just delayed perhaps a few months, I'd say no more than a year
hit it raw
The first ? after the vote:
"So who gives me money now?"
And just like the Labor Unions here in America, they will count the ballots privately in closed doors.
Diebold will cast the deciding votes. And Diebold has been paid for a YES.
POPULATION : 23,655,349
YES votes : 124,823,125
NO votes : 18,223,615
PS: The propaganda and misrepresentation is so thick on "yes" versus "no" that I can't be sure which is which. But I do know, BOTH are the wrong answer... the usual false alternative scam. The only solution is to default on all existing debt AND never borrow again. EVER.
The Cry was NO Surrender!
EASY!!!
70% AND MORE ARE GOVERNMENT WORKERS!!
THEY THINK THAT A YES VOTE WILL PUNISH OTHER BUT LEAVE THEIR INCOME AS IS!!
So if they vote yes, they’ll lose a lot of government jobs, pensions, social security..... ....
It’s the stick your head in the sand trick and pray they don’t see you.
And greeks should realize that they’ll just suffer 4 more years untill they’ll get another shot. And if they vote no, those 4 years would be their recovery period.
People are just stupid. If they vote yes, I’ll laugh my ass off when they’ll all lose their money in baill ins and the new tax system will squeeze theor balls.
morons...
they deserve everything what’s comming to them if they vote yes.
He who sacrifices freedom for comfort deserves none of them.
And, please correct me if I'm wrong. The terms they are voting on have been withdrawn. If they vote yes, the terms will be provided, after the fact. WTF?
Reminscent of the TPP?
But that same government is telling them to vote no. And the government rewards those that do what they tell them to do.
Yes, SD, spot on. They just don't understand what's going on.
There's a reason why the system got complicated: to defraud.
If the system were simple, everyone could be engaged without ridiculous energy expended. It's a full time job to understand some of this mumbo jumbo. And TPTB know it. The result is no one is advocating for the common folk who need to focus on their family and livelihood.
But simplicity is not what TPTB want.
Complexity = darkness/obfuscation
If I'm a 55 or older retiree I can't tolerate the thought of going back to work unti I'm 75, it was a bitch making the workforce through age 40. Show me that YES electronic button.
But one that is 25 says don't force me to subsidize your bad habits, I'll never see retirement until 75. NO NO NO.
fsa always wins, fsa= more govt debt=more cb intervention= less soverrnty, more controllable debtslaves, the hard part is keeping the vote count close to ease the sting.
The only free shit army that exists is the Banking Elite and their masters. They steal food out of our mouths and call us the deadbeats.
WRONG. We are being squeezed from both ends. Ground betwixt two millstones.
Governments can print money with no consequences whatsoever, apparently. Why do they ever borrow? And from whom, really?
Let Kabuki roll with extra Cowbell to get to the end game circa September 13.
Elul 29 awaits and it may just get it's billing.
The set-up is in the pipe 5 x 5.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dXc2W1uWck
SingularLogic .... more like SingularOutcome.
The vote is rigged.
I said so in another post and I'll repeat myself.
This is data gathered by phone call. We have people that can't pay power & water bills. They haven't been clients of Deutsche Telekom and the other providers for years.
Top analysts in Greece have also admitted that it's the first time they're doing this (referendums are an alien concept in post 70s junta Greece), so they are largely unsure how to approach these estimates.
Either way, Drachmes have been printed at IETA.
(Something that Varoufakis denied is physically possible a few months ago *wink*)
Even if this government falls, Tsipras will return in autumn with 40%+. Hell, he might even prefer the NAI vote.
To paraphrase:
ASK NOT what the Troika can do for you,
ASK what the Troika will do to your country.
apparently when you join the EU or NATO your first requirement is to buy SinglularLogic compatible voting machines.
"...one of these two dueling groups is forced to acquiesce to the other's vision of Greece's future."
YOU HAVE IT WRONG GUYS!
Different is what we fear not what we want for the future of our country!
Take a Testosterone shot and grow a pair of balls before the vote.
I'd like to see the bankers try something like this on Q99X2. They would be lit on fire and catapulted off of the tops of the pyramids like it was the fourth of July. The children would feel safe again.
Rural areas will decide this
smoke and mirrors. the united states of europe is here, not going anywhere. did US kick detroit out? same goes for greece. brussels = nyc/dc. france = california. germany = texas. and so on..
all this talk of euro breakup is ridiculous. they haven't even issued EUROBONDS yet. that will buy them a century. fading the bullsh-t euro collapse talk. it's like hotel california. you can check in, but never leave
The losing side always says it's closer than it really is.
That's to keep their voters from going to the beach.
OXI
Germany has more to lose than Greece. A no vote will make them crap themselves.
They can stay within the Euro, but they have to make money the old fashioned way. They have to earn it.
No vote is inflation.
Yes vote is deflation.
Choose your poison zerohedgers!
In my heart I want the Greeks to vote "no" and reject the bailout. But it may cause some really tough times for them. People are going to suffer even more. That gives me pause. But people have suffered for freedom before. This might break the back of the European oligarchs - especially if it spreads to other EU countries.
You can see the shape of a pawn right in the center of that pie chart.
ahh, someone with clear vision.