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They Want To Use "Hate Speech Laws" To Destroy Freedom Of Speech In America

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Submitted by Michael Snyder via The End of The American Dream blog,

Hate speech laws are going in all around the world, and progressive activists in the United States want to use these kinds of laws to destroy free speech in America.  You see, the truth is that these hate speech laws that are being implemented all over the planet are not just about preventing speech that promotes violence or genocide against a particular group of people.  Instead, these laws are written in such a way that anyone that says something that “offends” or “insults” someone else is guilty of “hate speech”.  Even if you never intended to offend anyone and you had no idea that your words were insulting, in some countries you can be detained without bail and sentenced to years in prison for such speech.  Today, there are highly restrictive hate speech laws in Canada, in Mexico and in virtually every single European nation.  The United States is still an exception, but the truth is that our liberties and freedoms are being eroded every single day, and it is only a matter of time until “hate speech laws” are used to take away our freedom of speech too.

If you don’t think that this could ever happen in America, you should consider what the American Bar Association has to say on the matter.  This is the national organization that represents all of our lawyers, judges, etc.  So when the ABA speaks on legal matters, it carries a significant amount of weight.  The following is how the American Bar Association defines “hate speech”

Hate speech is speech that offends, threatens, or insults groups, based on race, color, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, disability, or other traits.

Did you catch that?

If I say something that offends or insults you, there is a very good chance that I have just committed “hate speech” according to the ABA.

And support for these kinds of laws is growing.  In fact, one survey found that 51 percent of all Democrats now support hate speech laws.  It is only a matter of time before progressives start pushing for them in a big way.

Sadly, many of these progressives don’t even understand that our Constitution protects free speech.  Just consider what CNN anchor Chris Cuomo recently had to say about this

Hate speech is not the same thing as free speech, wrote CNN anchor Chris Cuomo on the ultimate forum for public discourse: Twitter.

 

Amid debate about free speech after a shooting at an anti-Muslim protest in Texas , a user tweeted at Cuomo: “Too many people are trying to say hate speech (doesn’t equal) free speech.”

 

In response, Cuomo, who has a law degree, said, “It doesn’t. Hate speech is excluded from protection. Don’t just say you love the Constitution … read it.”

No, I think that it is Cuomo that needs to read the Constitution.  The fact that he gets to deliver “the news” to millions upon millions of Americans is absolutely frightening.

But without a doubt, we do need to have a conversation about “hate speech” in the United States.  If I offend or insult you, that does not mean that I “hate” you.  And if I disagree with you, that does not mean that I “hate” you either.

Some of the things that are considered to be “offensive speech” these days are absolutely ridiculous.  For example, just consider the following excerpt from a recent article by Paul Joseph Watson

Here’s an actual list of things that according to the University of Wisconsin are racist:

– Asking someone where they are from or where they were born.

– Telling someone they speak good English.

– Telling someone that you have several black friends.

– Saying that you’re not a racist.

– Complimenting an Asian person by telling them they are very articulate.

– Asking an Asian person for help with science or math.

– Uttering the phrase “There is only one race, the human race.”

– Saying that you think America is a melting pot and that when you look at someone you don’t see race.

– Believing that the most qualified person, regardless of race, should get the job.

– Thinking that every person, regardless of race, can succeed in society if they work hard enough.

– Telling a black person who is being too loud to be quiet.

– Telling an Asian or Latino person who is too quiet to speak up.

– Mistaking a person of color for a staff member when you’re in a store.

– Calling something “gay”.

– Doing an impression of someone’s dialect or accent.

Could you imagine going to prison for any of those “offenses”?

But this is where our country is heading if we don’t stand up for our rights.

Right now, the progressives are on a roll.  In the wake of the recent Supreme Court decision on same sex marriage, some progressives are already talking about going after the tax exemptions of churches that oppose it.  In fact, the New York Times recently published an article entitled “Now’s the Time To End Tax Exemptions for Religious Institutions“.

But of course the ultimate goal is far more insidious.  In the end, they want to shut down all speech that offends them in any way

The American Unity Fund is a heavily funded new super-PAC looking to blanket the country with LGBT anti-discrimination laws. In effect, those laws aim to wipe out any alternative voice to the LGBT agenda. The effort is being spearheaded by billionaire hedge fund manager Paul Singer and another wealthy hedge fund manager, Tim Gill.

 

Gill’s operations—the Gill Foundation and Gill Action—have been dedicated to “nonpartisan” gains for the LGBT lobby on the legislative and judicial fronts.

Those that do not believe that this could ever possibly happen in “the land of the free” should consider what has already happened in our neighbor to the north

Anyone who is offended by something you have said or written can make a complaint to the Human Rights Commissions and Tribunals. In Canada, these organizations police speech, penalizing citizens for any expression deemed in opposition to particular sexual behaviors or protected groups identified under ‘sexual orientation.’ It takes only one complaint against a person to be brought before the tribunal, costing the defendant tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees. The commissions have the power to enter private residences and remove all items pertinent to their investigations, checking for hate speech.

Of course the same kind of thing is already happening over in Europe as well.  For instance, one Christian pastor in Northern Ireland is being prosecuted for calling Islam “a doctrine spawned in hell”

An evangelical pastor in Northern Ireland is under fire and will be prosecuted after calling Islam “satanic” and claiming that its doctrine was “spawned in hell” during a controversial 2014 sermon that streamed over the Internet.

 

Pastor James McConnell, 78, of Whitewell Metropolitan Tabernacle in Belfast, Northern Ireland, made his comments — which included calling Islam “heathen” — in a sermon delivered last May, the BBC reported.

 

“The Muslim religion was created many hundreds of years after Christ. Muhammad, the Islam Prophet, was born around the year A.D. 570, but Muslims believe that Islam is the true religion,” he preached. “Now, people say there are good Muslims in Britain. That may be so, but I don’t trust them.”

 

McConnell continued, “Islam’s ideas about God, about humanity, about salvation are vastly different from the teaching of the holy scriptures. Islam is heathen. Islam is satanic. Islam is a doctrine spawned in hell.”

Once such laws are in place in the United States, it won’t be difficult for the government to find you if you are committing “hate speech”.  As I have written about repeatedly, the U.S. government already monitors virtually everything that is said and done on the Internet.  The following is an excerpt from an article that was recently authored by Micah Lee, Glenn Greenwald, and Morgan Marquis-Boire

The sheer quantity of communications that XKEYSCORE processes, filters and queries is stunning. Around the world, when a person gets online to do anything — write an email, post to a social network, browse the web or play a video game — there’s a decent chance that the Internet traffic her device sends and receives is getting collected and processed by one of XKEYSCORE’s hundreds of servers scattered across the globe.

 

In order to make sense of such a massive and steady flow of information, analysts working for the National Security Agency, as well as partner spy agencies, have written thousands of snippets of code to detect different types of traffic and extract useful information from each type, according to documents dating up to 2013. For example, the system automatically detects if a given piece of traffic is an email. If it is, the system tags if it’s from Yahoo or Gmail, if it contains an airline itinerary, if it’s encrypted with PGP, or if the sender’s language is set to Arabic, along with myriad other details.

And as I wrote about yesterday, western governments are already using paid trolls to identify and combat “extremists” on social media websites such as YouTube, Facebook and Twitter.

We are rapidly becoming a “Big Brother” society, and if we don’t stand up for our freedoms and liberties now, it is inevitable that we will eventually lose just about all of them.

Unfortunately, most of the population is absolutely clueless about all of this.  In fact, as Mark Dice demonstrated the other day, many Americans don’t even know what we are celebrating on the 4th of JulyAs a society, we have become extremely “dumbed down”, and we have lost connection to the values and principles that this country was founded upon.

 

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Sat, 07/04/2015 - 22:03 | 6270563 One And Only
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At least I can still say I hate niggers.

Though I'm sure someone will say that's wrong and will try to make my speach illegal. Fuck off.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 22:16 | 6270604 Skateboarder
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Faggot. Dike. Kike. Nigger. Spic. Coolie. Poonjab. Coon. Kook. Chink. Jap. Gook. Wop. Beaner. Wetback.

A list of my friends. :-)

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 22:23 | 6270620 Arnold
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No Krauts?        Humm.............................

 

 

http://www.rsdb.org/race/germans

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 22:37 | 6270674 0b1knob
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Speech?

Let ascii art

express your feelings.

 

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Sat, 07/04/2015 - 23:06 | 6270742 Dead Canary
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What's the racial slur for Belgians. (Actually, Belgians kinda sounds like a racial slur anyway)

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 00:14 | 6270850 Billy the Poet
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In countries with hate speech laws are members of protected groups allowed to use the offensive speech themselves? Because that would be the way to go. Prosecute Jewish comedians, for example, who have traditionally played on their own ethnic stereotype for laughs. And what about rap music? Do countries with hate speech laws allow black individuals to use the word "nigger?" Shouldn't that be prosecuted?

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 00:17 | 6270857 Boris Alatovkrap
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Boris is hate speech of sycophant politician and lying economist is carry water of central bankster.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 00:39 | 6270881 LetThemEatRand
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In Homeland of USA, fireworks illegal unless government sanction.   Happy Jade Helm Day.   

All kidding aside.  I live around Clearwater, FL.  Wife yesterday saw three fully armored cars with police/military on top with full autos driving on Drew Street.  Google Drew Street and US19.  Not a warzone, but it was the other day.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 00:56 | 6270911 jeff montanye
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re the original post's citing of a nyt (actually a time) article arguing for the removal of tax exemptions for churches and all non-profits: this is a good ideal and gets the government out of deciding what is a religion and what isn't, among other ills.

 

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 02:17 | 6271004 pretty bird
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I've spent my life badmouthing the blacks, Jews, and homos.  And no government is going to stop me now.  Get used to, Uncle sam.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 07:53 | 6271219 SoilMyselfRotten
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No Krauts?

 

He went Saur on them

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 08:46 | 6271331 kaiserhoff
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Looking at that list of offensive speech,

I'm just wondering if I omitted any of them last week.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 08:58 | 6271359 Stuck on Zero
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We all know where this is headed ...  because the government stands for goodness and light any criticism of the government will be tagged as "hate speech."

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 09:25 | 6271427 Fun Facts
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Free speech includes the right to make as big an ass out of yourself as you would like.

Hate speech is a term created by the elders to get a foot in the door to kill free speech.

protocol #5 Appeal to successful people’s egos

protocol #6 Appoint puppet leaders who can be controlled by blackmail

protocol #7 Replace royal rule with socialist rule, then communism, then despotism

protocol #8 Abolish all rights and freedoms, except the right of force by us

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 06:22 | 6271152 shovelhead
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Scientologists celebrating Church Day.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 09:26 | 6271192 SofaPapa
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Was in NYC for the first time in many years yesterday.  I grew up there in the 70s / 80s.  We were in Grand Central Station, and now a hallmark of GCT is the uniformed military "guarding" it.  It's amazing to me how TPTB have created this constant background of paranoia in people's minds.  They don't need anything to happen, as long as people are 24 hours a day nervous that something might happen.  And they've done it.  The majority of people are thinking of "see something, say something", looking for something to see.  As long as people believe this, TPTB have nothing to fear.

It remains a battle for hearts and minds, and we are far from turning the tide in this war to regain our culture from the vultures.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 00:45 | 6270894 Slarti Bartfast
Sun, 07/05/2015 - 01:11 | 6270928 cornflakesdisease
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Whip-titties

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 22:46 | 6270700 Buster Cherry
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Hey, what about the pickaninnies?

 

Or southpaws?

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 06:01 | 6271139 HowdyDoody
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No politicians? No banksters? No realtors.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 09:29 | 6271377 ThrowAwayYourTV
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You forgot Lawyers HD. Oh wait, you did say Politicians. Sorry!

 

 

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 10:25 | 6271596 EINSILVERGUY
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I'm half kraut. keep it coming. i'm ok with it

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 22:27 | 6270638 FredFlintstone
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Krout, frog, mick, gringo, dago, honky, cracker, peckerwood, seppo, hick, redneck, hillbilly, limey, trailer trash, canuck.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 00:43 | 6270890 Billy the Poet
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Polacks don't even get an honorable mention? How the world has changed.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 01:12 | 6270929 cornflakesdisease
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Why do (insert race here) dogs have bumps on their head?

 

From chasing parked cars.

 

 

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 10:21 | 6271572 SoilMyselfRotten
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Or the 100 Poles who walked into a building. You'd think one of them would've aseen it!

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 22:27 | 6270641 dexter_morgan
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mick, bean, pollack, diaper head, sand nigger, nips, krauts, greasers, splibs, porch monkeys, injuns, etc., all sorts of cute little names for people out there..................

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 09:14 | 6271395 Cornfedbloodstool
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diaper head LMAO!

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 22:28 | 6270643 Fukushima Fricassee
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Is it still legal to call Obama a cocksucking queer idiot or point to his wifes dick?

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 22:44 | 6270702 falconflight
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You beat me to it...I am not worthy, but here it goes:

Fudgepacking taco eating sloop-eyed spear-chuckng butch-assed lox-nosed Frog fcking drunken Mic, Limey sucking, Pollock cunt dripping, head hunting piccanney mau mau.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 23:14 | 6270757 DutchBoy2015
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You shouldn't talk about all your Fathers like that.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 01:14 | 6270936 cornflakesdisease
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A bit thin skinned are we not?  (Stupid ghet)

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 03:44 | 6271069 Colonel Klink
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Cheesepopes, don't forget the thieving, skimming, scamming, penny stretching, corrupt, coniving, coluding, criminal cheesepopes!!!

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 00:12 | 6270849 TheReplacement
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Sounds pretty gay like you're going to have a multiracial sword fight.

I prefer poontang, beaver, whisker bisket, va-j-j, the island of come-on-I-wanna-lay-ya, camel toe, moose knuckle and the optometrist to whom I take ol' one eye.

On bad days I also like bitch.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 02:57 | 6271041 HolyfieldsOtherEar
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Crumpet, growler, badly packed kebab, lady garden, gash, Hillary magnet...

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 01:05 | 6270892 OldPhart
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As an Irishman I'm offended that 'Micks' wasn't part of your list.

Also, 7/4 greetings from England...

Fuck the colonials!

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 02:48 | 6271036 Kirk2NCC1701
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And on ZH you may diss 2 of the 3 Abrahamic religions if you're careful on how you do it.

But do NOT refer to them by name and call them gutter religions, or you'll get booted off ZH.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 22:16 | 6270605 LetThemEatRand
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It is hypocritical for the Tylers to run this story given the number of people who have been banned from this site for speech.  I realize that the Tylers are not a country and the 1st Amendment does not apply, but they seem to be pussified when it comes to these issues.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 22:21 | 6270615 One And Only
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Who got banned? Don't be a nigger, speak up.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 22:21 | 6270616 LetThemEatRand
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Fonz, Trav, many others.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 22:27 | 6270636 One And Only
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Trav was pretty bad ass. He said it like it was.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 23:11 | 6270750 disabledvet
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They might. be dead actually.

I know I should be....

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 00:26 | 6270866 Billy the Poet
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There is a difference between a government banning speech and an individual or business owner removing one from the premises based on undesired behavior.

LTER never has understood the difference between involuntary coercion by the state and individual property rights. By insisting that everyone has aright to say what they want on a privately owned site puts him in league with those who would control individual speech. If you insist that Tyler must allow every yahoo in the universe to act as they please on his private property will you do the same? Will you institute an open door policy at your home and business where anyone who walks in the doors sets their own rules and your right as a property owner be damned?

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 00:33 | 6270871 LetThemEatRand
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As a poet, I would think you would understand the concept of hypocrisy.  Apparently, you are just a guy with a keyboard and little behind it.  But thanks for demonstrating hyporcisy for the rest of us as you rant on this site.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 00:35 | 6270877 Billy the Poet
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Let's talk about hypocrisy. You have claimed to own a business. Do you allow or encourage members of the public to enter your business and harangue your employees and customers with endless diatribes about how the Jews are watering down the beer?

How does this affect your business? Does it increase sales? Does it make your employees feel secure? Do you personally find your life as a business owner to be enhanced by allowing anyone with any agenda full and free speech on your property at your expense?

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 00:42 | 6270888 LetThemEatRand
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Only a teen or early twenty something "poet" who has no experience in business would equate running a brick and mortar business with operating a website with a comment section.   Would you like a Brawndo?  I'm guessing you're thirsty after all that texting.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 00:46 | 6270896 Billy the Poet
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So you get to determine how to best operate your business and you also get to determine how Tyler operates his business. How convenient for you. Nothing hypocritical about that.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 00:49 | 6270897 LetThemEatRand
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You can have the last word, but your icon still looks like an orifice.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 00:54 | 6270907 Billy the Poet
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It's supposed to look like an orifice. I take it that you're not a Vonnegut fan.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 00:59 | 6270913 LetThemEatRand
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Maybe I'm old and not as literate as you, but yours looks like an anus.  I thought KV was talking about a vagina.  In any event, sorry for being a banker and saying you could have the last word but not meaning it.  Now I mean it.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 01:19 | 6270944 cornflakesdisease
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It depends on the nature of the business.  Zerohedge is about the exchange of info and opinions and insights.  If you own a club, you might expect to gets some music acts that push the limits of what is normal, as opposed to a chucky cheese.  Life does have shades of gray.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 02:02 | 6270965 Billy the Poet
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Does the obvious fact that life has nuance negate the right of the owner of private property to manage that property? I would say that the fact that life has nuance is exactly the reason why a responsible business owner must make judgements about how to best run their business. The concept of "shades of grey" implies a world with some good, some bad and some in between. To insist that Tyler must allow anyone to post anything any time is to disregard the darker shades of grey.

I'm surprised that ZH readers don't understand this very basic issue about the rights of property owners not to mention the fact that businesses must be run, that they don't run themselves no matter how much progressives insist that they do and that no one except the business owner has the right to make business decisions.

I wonder how many of those who believe that Tyler should be forced to publish undesirable comments would also insist that a Christian baker must be forced to bake a cake for a gay wedding? How many would agree with Obama that private business owners must act at the behest of government because, "you didn't build that?"

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 02:16 | 6271003 LetThemEatRand
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Pander/parrot much?

 

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 04:45 | 6271099 conscious being
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The thing is Billy Starting to Sound Like a DickHead, they got kicked off, at least in the case of the ZH immortal, Francis Sawyer, for speaking tbe objective truth. For truth that appearently you can say now. Seemed that way anyhow. Without explanations from either party, one can only draw what conclusions can be drawn.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 13:26 | 6272204 Billy the Poet
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Was francis speaking the objective truth when he made accusations such as "the Jews are watering down the beer?" Or was he a distraction from the actual problems created by the state of Israel?

 

I've had lots of conversations with folks about Israel and caused them to think about the US position on Israel by discussing the Liberty, NUMEC, Pollard, etc.  If someone else had been in the room screaming about how Jews are the scum of the Earth I would not have been able to convince anyone of anything. It's almost as if francis wanted to make it impossible to separate those who call out Israel for its crimes and those who hate all Jews.

Recall this:

The Double Identity of an "Anti-Semitic" Commenter

http://www.commondreams.org/hambaconeggs

 

But the main thing you should take away from this conversation is this: If you insist that Tyler must allow francis sawyer unfettered access to his property then you must allow Bibi Netanyahoo unfettered access to your property. Otherwise you'd be a hypocrite.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 01:16 | 6270939 cornflakesdisease
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Sorry, but free speech is the best anti-septic as it reveils who your are truely dealing with.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 02:16 | 6270975 Billy the Poet
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No one was banned on their first post. Suppose I came into your home and started yelling at your wife and kids? How much free speech would you allow me and for how long? Isn't there some point at which you may no longer wish to entertain an outside party on your property due to his behavior? Does anyone else have the right to determine what happens on your property or do you maintain that right yourself?

To deny Tyler the right to operate a forum as he best sees fit in his effort to facilitate a conversation about the issues he raises is to deny Tyler's freedom of speech and press. How would those who want to see Tyler denied that right go about it? They'd pass laws accusing him of being a "hater." Which is exactly what tyrannical governments are doing. To insist that Tyler is wrong to administer his own website is to call for regulation whether you understand that or not. It puts you on the side of those would would control not only Tyler but you as well.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 04:49 | 6271102 conscious being
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Bogus, not relevant example. Why are you conjuring up an alternate reality? There are specific examples, your strawman does not address.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 12:58 | 6272298 Billy the Poet
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Why are you ignorant of the fact that if you demand that others should be limited in their rights of speech and property ownership that eventually you will lose those rights as well?  That's the story of modern America.

 

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 10:15 | 6271354 greenskeeper carl
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holy shit you are dense. LTER is refering to HYPOCRACY. He is not suggesting that he, nor anyone, should be able to FORCE the tylers to allow anyone to say anything on THEIR website. It is private property. He was just pointing out that it is hypocritical for them to post an article like this, complaining about govts censoring speech when they do the same exact thing in their comments section.

 

I say this as one of the banned, although I never mentioned the 'joos' or 'niggers' and have no idea why I got banned. Criticizing rand paul in every article about him and calling certain items 'click bait' is all i can think of.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 13:41 | 6272260 Billy the Poet
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Try a different example. Suppose that you object to the government giving away your tax money to charity but you give to charity yourself. That doesn't make you a hypocrite, it just means that you understands that the powers of a constitutional government and the rights of a private citizen are different things.

And you really don't get LTER, do you? He's a progressive shill who insists that the only way to be free is to allow the elites to tell you what to do. He's fairly good at taking a progressive talking point and making it appeal to those who think of themselves as conservatives or libertarians. That's what he's doing here. He wants you to be outraged that Tyler would dare administer his own business. Does that sound like someone who promotes freedom of the individual?

 

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 07:37 | 6271204 overmedicatedun...
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much like good comedy, there is a grain of truth in "free Speech", that hits the center of hypocrits and hurts..

real truth always hurts. the ego is weak and the state even weaker when speech is needed to be limited..

our roll in the modern international state is to be a commodity that is uniform, how else can "they" plan policy?

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 23:17 | 6270766 Bazza McKenzie
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What,  they banned Trump?

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 22:47 | 6270713 falconflight
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Must have been more than a year ago, I don't recognize those id's.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 09:02 | 6271363 greenskeeper carl
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LTER, dont forget Greenskeeper_Carl....

 

and Im pretty sure fonz quit. I know he got banned once and was on his second profile, but this time I think his absense is self imposed. sucks too, I always liked him

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 22:46 | 6270707 falconflight
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I can't imagine anyone being banned by TD considering the posts I've read, and maybe that I've posted.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 00:52 | 6270902 Billy the Poet
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It's entirely possible that individuals were banned for other reasons. francis sawyer, for one, makes me think of this guy:

 

The Double Identity of an "Anti-Semitic" Commenter

http://www.commondreams.org/hambaconeggs

 

It would certainly seem that there are legitimate reasons for a website to ban certain users and that right belongs to the individuals who own the web properties involved and no one else.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 06:07 | 6271142 conscious being
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Ad hominem nonsense. Be specific. Sight your example. What did he swy that was "wrong"? Or spill the beans and say what you are up to.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 08:13 | 6271250 New_Meat
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the child can't see.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 13:18 | 6272333 Billy the Poet
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"Ad hominem nonsense. Be specific. Sight your example. What did he swy that was "wrong"? Or spill the beans and say what you are up to."

 

francis hated Jews. I have exactly two Jewish acquaintances who are more anti-Zionist than I am.

But let's get real. I've sponsored a Palestinian child, sent hundreds of dollars to Free Gaza for voyages to Rafah and I buy Palestinian products. What have you or francis ever done in response to the crimes of Israel?

 

Funniest thing of all is that I posted that same link in regard to francis four days ago and you were surprised that I received a downvote.

 

Wed, 07/01/2015 - 23:11 | 6260858 Billy the Poet
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His observations such as "the Jews are watering down the beer" were so illuminating.

 

The Double Identity of an "Anti-Semitic" Commenter

http://www.commondreams.org/hambaconeggs

 

 

Wed, 07/01/2015 - 23:41 | 6260945 conscious being
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Excellent link Billy. Who downvoted you?

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 00:14 | 6270852 TheReplacement
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Although I often had issues with them:

His name was Francis_Sawyer

His name was, well, I forget.  He had several names.  He was the bitcoin troll.  He was maddening and entertaining at the same time.  This goat's to you.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 00:34 | 6270875 LetThemEatRand
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His name was Francis Sawyer.

His name was Fonzanoon.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 06:10 | 6271145 conscious being
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Fonzanoon quit. He said he was going to quit and he did. He didn't like some feedback he got.

Francis was censored. There's a difference.

 

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 06:50 | 6271164 Usurious
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its francis_sawyer......no caps....

viva la francis_sawyer!

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 07:39 | 6271207 RealityCheque
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I miss Fonestar, and the guy who stole MillionDollarBonus' name is barely 1/10th the god-troll that the original person was.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 09:38 | 6271467 ILLILLILLI
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The original MDB was a highly skilled provocateur with a razor wit...

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 00:58 | 6270915 RaceToTheBottom
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Wasn't one baseed on the other?

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 22:19 | 6270613 dexter_morgan
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Hate is a harmful thing to ones own health. But if you want to fuck yourself up by hating, go ahead.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 00:31 | 6270645 Fukushima Fricassee
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Sticks and stones, mother fucker, sticks and stones. You can take the communist US government and its propaganda media machine and shove political correctness up your stupid ass hole.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 23:23 | 6270781 WernerHeisenberg
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In New Zealand, you can't say much of anything now we have the incredible, amazing

"Harmful digital communications bill" which allows for a maximum sentence of two years in prison or a $50,000 fine if you hurt someone's feelings online.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/comment/editorials/69957563/editori...

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 23:57 | 6270833 JR
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"Start with what's right about the law: its attempt to thrash out new measures for a new problem. While there have always been bullies, and while schoolyard taunts have never been fun, phones and the internet have given both a more anonymous, frightening quality.

"They've also made it possible for such abuse to be amplified – a photo sent over email, or a video posted to a website, can quickly reach thousands of eyeballs, and cause lasting misery." -- The Dominion Post

And right there's the problem. The media wants no competition. The Internet's destroying them.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 00:33 | 6270874 Fukushima Fricassee
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Leave, Fiji perhaps

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 00:19 | 6270842 TheReplacement
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That's wrong but you have the right to say it.  Fuck off.  I have the right to say that - it isn't explicitly sexual in this context.

What I want to see is a black man, who really gets it, waving a confederate flag in protest.  Of course, we on the other side of the color divide need to have some free speech heroes of our own. 

Sadly, neither of us will have the gumption to go out and videobomb a life news cast or some such stunt to have our voices heard.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 02:51 | 6271030 F0ster
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Hate speech censorship has more to do with preventing the masses from challenging the massive domination by Jewish (religious groups and networks) than it does about Blacks. Do you really think they would be pushing this law through to protect Black people? This is about the Zionist and bankers, politicians and media execs etc maintaining total control over the system that enriches them all the way up to the secret Jewish board members of the world's Central Banks. $300 billion a year in interest payments (from OUR taxes) through the (bogusly named) Federal Reserve just for starters. There are masters that hide behind Owls and Proxies and they need to be brought into the light of day and hung from the gallows.

The dumb public need to realize that we are at war with a handful of Jewish families that control and enslave the western world.

These anti free speech laws will force the people to speak with their guns.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 06:13 | 6271148 conscious being
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Brave truth spoken here. ^^^^

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 06:56 | 6271168 joseJimenez
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I will echo my sentiment in the following quote: I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.
--Voltaire
Sun, 07/05/2015 - 08:34 | 6271238 snodgrass
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It's not surprising this comes from the American Bar Association. They sue for a living and every time someone is offended, it means money for them. They also seek to be our new high priests. Look at who we've had as presidents and their attitude towards the proles - the trailer trash Clintons and now conman Barry Sotero - all lawyers.

It's really Orwellian. "Don't you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought? In the end we shall make thoughtcrime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it. Every concept that can ever be needed will be expressed by exactly one word, with its meaning rigidly defined and all its subsidiary meanings rubbed out and forgotten." (

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 10:30 | 6271613 MFL8240
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One need only look at the scared establishments attacks on Trump to watch this play out and fail!

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 22:05 | 6270574 Niall Of The Ni...
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Who was it said that a racist is someone winning an argument with a liberal?

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 22:32 | 6270658 dexter_morgan
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Peter Brimelow
Sat, 07/04/2015 - 22:47 | 6270708 Laddie
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What really is so amusing is how they'll say people are 'racists' because they have never experienced diversity. The vast majority of 'racists' I've met have experienced diversity first hand and that is why they became 'racists.'

The term "racist" was coined by Leon Trotsky true name BRONSTEIN.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 00:16 | 6270853 Mr. Frosty
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My high school was minority-majority. More Puerto Ricans and Blacks than White students. I will never forget the looks of pure hatred and contempt that were thrown at me everyday. They hated me because of the color of my skin and never bothered to hide it.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 00:21 | 6270860 TheReplacement
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And looik at how your words hurt them now.  You should be ashamed.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 00:53 | 6270898 Laddie
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Mr Frosty what you related rings quite true to me. The rich I won't classify them as White due to their leftist elite mentality let us just say"pale" live in ABSOLUTE segregation from people of color while they encourage the government, as the Obongo administration is going to do, DESTROY White neighborhoods with "Affordable Housing" for people of color. It is that blatant.

This Englishman who lived in South Africa was so prophetic, his book is well worth getting WHILE YOU CAN!

The modern democracies of the West, with their philosophies of the stomach and the stock exchange, cannot inspire the people nor protect them. They despise nationhood and despise race. But without our national and racial backbones how shall we stand erect? With quicksands as our foundation how shall we build? How shall we be true to ourselves if we have no selves? Our race is what we are; it is our form. It is our fathers and mothers and brothers and sisters and wives and children. They are the race. How then shall we count it of little worth? Shall we despise our own flesh and blood? Is that what modern democracy is supposed to mean? Is that what Christianity is supposed to mean?
White man, think again! by Anthony Jacob, Johannesburg 1965

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 08:58 | 6271229 Fukushima Fricassee
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Fuck that, the SCOTUS forced me to ride a bus for 2 hours to go to an elementary , JR school , with black kids many of which were 2 to 4 years older than I and physically fight them just to hang onto my lunch money. For which I might add I was suspended from school.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 22:06 | 6270577 This is it
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I hate you.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 23:13 | 6270756 Free2Speak
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I encourage love, but I fully support your right to hate!

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 00:22 | 6270862 TheReplacement
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I won't lie.  If you are 5'2" and fully hot, that is just soooo hot.  Seriously, call me!  xoxo

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 22:11 | 6270584 dexter_morgan
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Doesn't seem all that difficult to understand, does it? Takes a law degree I guess to really fuck up the meaning.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 22:37 | 6270676 falconflight
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Ah, but they do understand and dare anyone to ---- them and their familes. ;)

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 22:38 | 6270679 Oldwood
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Legal definitions.

Bill Clinton schooled us on the meaning is "is".

Does anyone really think they have the definition of "injury" locked down?

In our legal world, it is who can muster they power who defines legality. Money buys plenty but if you own the podium of political correctness,no one can defeat it.

Lets watch how Trump does. He has the money.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 22:49 | 6270693 daveO
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Those Cuomo's(and leftists) lie about everything. I immediately told relatives that I smelled a 'Cuomo' when I saw this;

http://ww3.hdnux.com/photos/36/74/47/8112598/13/628x471.jpg

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/150606181119-08-cuomo-ny-esc...

Then this;

http://wnyt.com/article/stories/s3840218.shtml

So, they immediately lied. Stoolies would've heard power tools.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 00:24 | 6270864 TheReplacement
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The extra years are required to overcome the victim's (lawyers) natural compunction to sympathize with their victims (the rest of us).

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 22:15 | 6270593 Ignatius
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Simply questioning the accuracy of the historical underpinnings of 'the' Holocaust is cause for punishment in much of western Europe.  One is not allowed to defend themselves with facts and is left with only two pleas:  1) insanity and, 2) mercy of the court.

This trend must be challenged at every step in the US, IMHO.

If some fool wants to waste his time to "hate niggers" or whoever, let 'em, it's their time to waste.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 22:24 | 6270625 Skateboarder
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Do you remember an event in recent history that happened this side of the pond, the questioning of which may land you in similar misfortunes?

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 22:29 | 6270646 dexter_morgan
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9/11?

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 22:58 | 6270734 Skateboarder
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Never forget, brah. Or else...

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 00:26 | 6270865 TheReplacement
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Never Forget!!!

Building 7?

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 08:37 | 6271314 snodgrass
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How about a peer review study proving nanothermites were in the dust from the BOMBING of the WTC buildings.

http://benthamopen.com/contents/pdf/TOCPJ/TOCPJ-2-7.pdf

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 22:32 | 6270657 Ignatius
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Ernst Zundel was living in the US and deported to Canada after 9/11, held in solitary for some 2 years, then sent to Germany for another 3+ years of imprisonment.  I'm no fan of Zundel's views, but he's a pacifist, a promoter of peace and a vegetarian who, besides defending Hitler, also beat Canadian law two times at trial in the 80s.  His extradition can be seen as punishment for winning.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 22:49 | 6270717 Arnold
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Ooooh, vegetarian, that tipped the scales for me.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 00:29 | 6270870 TheReplacement
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I don't like you much.  Always think of Tom Arnold and how he is talented but annoying. 

Now that I've hate speeched you...  What you wrote was exactly how I wanted to express my reaction.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 01:34 | 6270969 Ignatius
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The "vegetarian" mention was about the fact that he is and that he was tossed into solitary for 2 years with no exception for his diet.  If I mentioned that the light was always on 'tip the scales', too?  But if y'all wanna hang your hat on that detail, well go for it.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 04:14 | 6271094 Ginsengbull
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So he didn't have to guard the corn hole for two years?

 

Lazy inmate.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 01:27 | 6270959 cornflakesdisease
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Or the Pentagon's magic indestructable grass lawn:  http://killtown.911review.org/pentalawn.html

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 10:43 | 6271665 snodgrass
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A plane flew over the pentagon just as bombs went off inside. Later it was followed by a missle.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 22:33 | 6270661 Laddie
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Ah, the USSA, just like the Bolsheviks to start again, their end game? WHITE GENOCIDE!
I wonder how long information such as this will be legal in the USSA? Justice (SIC) Kagan (OY) says that "hate speech" is NOT protected by the 1st Amendment, Sonia Sotomayor and the other Jewish judges also agree. You see "hate speech" = TRUTH.
http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/trr/
http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/thottc/

It Begins! Montana Man Being Prosecuted for 'Hate Speech' and Holocaust Denial

...under Montana's ridiculously broad defamation statute, "defamatory matter is anything that exposes a person or a group, class, or association to hatred, contempt, ridicule, degradation, or disgrace in society or injury to the person’s or its business or occupation." And anyone who "communicates any defamatory matter to a third person without the consent of the person defamed commits the offense of criminal defamation."

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 00:35 | 6270876 TheReplacement
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I don't know which is worse.  Everyone's apparently obliviousness to this plot or the oblivious willingness of certain groups of people to wholeheartedly participate in various functions of the machinary.  I say that with a sort of been-there, done-that point of view.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 00:39 | 6270883 TheReplacement
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Does anyone realize that just a little while ago this all was referred to as "honor", as in, he impugned my honor, your honor.  This is nothing new.  This is normal.  Some humans actually hate all the other humans so much that they want to either control them all or kill them all trying. 

Are they really humans to hate as much as the insiders hate?

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 22:17 | 6270608 Tarshatha
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Yep, welcome to Canada.

But don't worry, hate speach only applies to the Khazars, everyone else is fair game.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 22:46 | 6270706 JessieSharpton
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Waysism.

What the author of this nonsense left out is the NSA controls all oceanic switches and listens to whatever they want and sends data to our friends in isreal.

Such good friends, israel.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 22:49 | 6270719 Otrader
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This will be missed by a lot of people.  When it arrives, everyone will be wondering how we got hate speech laws.  Too late!

Empire falling.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 22:23 | 6270621 q99x2
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Boycott all FED bankster controlled media. Become a member of your local underground forces. Study anti-gravity vehicle manuals and be prepared to invade area 51.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 23:19 | 6270770 disabledvet
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"Digital currency" is interesting actually.

Governments and their "minders" seem at a loss as to what to do with an "entity" that prints more accurate money than they do.

"The Ultimate Changer" actually...spitting out real money unlike Governments that only spit out debt...

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 00:45 | 6270893 TheReplacement
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Do tell how a digital currency avoids patterned network traffic during a transaction.

If a digital currency ever leaves the realm of useful idiocy and becomes a threat to TPTB then they will outlaw it (drop/block traffic using firewalls/routers or redirect to a MitM) just like voting and gold.  So,... gold has actually mattered in the past.  Interesting.   

Thank you for your service.  I am sorry it was all a lie and I didn't/couldn't/wasn't around to do anything.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 22:29 | 6270631 Laddie
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Telling the truth = HATE!

An example of what will be banned in the future in the USSA:
The Race War of Black Against White
by Paul Sheehan. Saturday, 20 May 1995
The Sydney Morning Herald (Australia)

Just referencing NEWS accounts of people of color SLAUGHTERING White men, women and children DAILY, with liberal doses of rape and torture as well. That is HATE SPEECH also.
See: http://newnation.org/

Youtube, Google's own pride and joy knows how to deal with "HATE" ban it:

Cops Post Video of Brutal Beating in Attempt to ID Suspects; YouTube Removes

After Cops Post Video of Brutal Beating in Attempt to ID Suspects, YouTube Reportedly Takes Action You Might Find Hard to Swallow
Dave Urbanski, The Blaze, September 20, 2014

Remember the surveillance video showing six male suspects brutally beating a couple outside a club in downtown Springfield, Missouri?

THank God for liveleak, when youtube bans a video liveleak saves it.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=282_1409879278
Unprovoked Brutal Bashing of Couple
Police have released chilling CCTV footage of what they are describing as a 'hate crime', where a group of men have viciously assaulted a couple from behind.

The attackers "APPEARED" to be black!!
Indianapolis Playground Beating: Girl and Her Little Brother Brutally Attacked in Park March 15, 2015
The Indianapolis playground beating may have been racially motivated. The victim and her brother were white and the attackers appeared to be black. As the victim was asking why she was being attacked, one of the boys in the group appeared to answer, “You white, bitch.”

Young Girl and Little Brother attacked
Video posted on facebook(THEN REMOVED) of brutal attack on a female and her little brother
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b10_1426395873

White woman brutally attacked

I am sure the national and international press covered this, didn't they?
This video was shot on Friday June 19, 2015 outside of Herfurth Elementary School in Rowlett, Texas. A black male is taking the video: a vicious attack on a White 14-year-old female holding her three-year-old niece and a white female friend are sitting on a park bench. This was described as a "schoolyard brawl." SERIOUSLY a "schoolyard brawl" !!!
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=923_1435624056

Caught On Camera: Woman Brutally Attacked With Skateboard In Venice March 27, 2015 KCBS-TV Los Angeles

The Sikh governor of SC why she knows HATE:

KKK, New Black Panthers plan dueling rallies in South Carolina

Gov. Nikki Haley said the white group “was not welcome” but was unaware of the black group’s plans at press time.

I suppose the Sikh Ms Haley, born of immigrants from India, doesn't care if WHITES are slaughtered does the Indian now? Because SIKH this is the GROUP that said THIS in South Carolina just a week ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mri2ZtPosvU
Malik Shabazz, leader of the New Black Panthers, speaking in Charleston, SC where he called for mass killing of Whites.

“Denmark Vesey had a plan to kill all the slave masters in the state. Denmark Vesey had a plan to kill every last one of them and kill all of their goddamn famlies.”

“We’re out of Denmark Veseys. And we need some new Demark Veseys today.”

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 23:15 | 6270759 daveO
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Shazam! The Canucks hate law backfires on them!

Shabazz arrived at Toronto Pearson International Airport as planned, but he was prevented from entering Canada by Canadian border officials because of past rhetoric that violatesCanadian hate laws. Although Canada's airports and borders are within the federal jurisdiction, the Ontario Community Safety and Correctional Services MinisterMonte Kwinter, justified the barring of Shabazz.[16] Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty expressed concern about Shabazz.[17] The press reported that Shabazz was denied entry to Canada because of a minor criminal record.[18] Shabazz flew back to BuffaloNew York, and attempted to cross the border by car, but he was spotted by border agents and prevented from entering Canada.[19]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malik_Zulu_Shabazz
Sun, 07/05/2015 - 00:53 | 6270906 TheReplacement
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No lie brother, that  is hair raising.

Pretty impressive how the black community has reacted, isn't it.   It is almost as though they too understand that there is a puppetmaster in all of this.  Other branches of the human tree are not your enemy.   Look to the crowns of the trees.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 22:27 | 6270640 TJ Parker
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So many inaccuracies in this screed. Paul Singer is a conservative Republican, not progressive. (Outside the U.S., LGBT rights is championed primarily by conservatives.) The only folks talking about eliminating tax exemption from churches because of their views on marriage equality are marriage equality opponents in the U.S., i.e. fear-mongering. The NY Times article you cite is not about selectively eliminating the subsidy for churches and non-profits, but about blanket elimination for all churches and non-profits. Hate speech is not simply about "hurting someone's feelings".

And ya know ... the ONLY person who has been talking about persecuting hate speech lately has been Mike Huckabee: He says its what he'd do on day one if he's elected president, to protect Christians from oppression by gay people. Those wacky Republicans! 

Perhaps instead of "progressive" you meant "regressive"?

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 22:34 | 6270665 Arnold
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Huh?

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 22:49 | 6270718 Oldwood
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So what is waving a confederate flag? Who is that "hurting"?

anybody but a fool or a complete ideological tool can see what is happening. The people who are substantially injured here are those who lose their jobs and in some cases even their ability to appear in public from speaking their mind and largely provable truths.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 00:55 | 6270909 TheReplacement
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You might hurt someone's minority wind?

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 23:25 | 6270778 daveO
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Oppression by Jews, specifically. 3 of the 5 justices were Jews. The Christians voted about the same, 4 to 2 against, as the general population has in referenda ('cept Kalifornia). One of these Jews is a homo. Two, including the homo, officiated at gay weddings PRIOR to the decision. Impeach Ginsburg and Kagan!

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 09:32 | 6271452 Dickweed Wang
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Impeach Ginsburg and Kagan!

All five of the "Justices" that voted "yeah" should have been impeached by CONgress the day after the Supreme Court homosexual marriage decision was handed down.  Same goes for those that voted "yeah" in the "Citizen United" case.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 23:33 | 6270794 JR
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Actually Paul Singer is an opportunist, a champion of inequality, using his wealth and the courts to rape banker-impoverished nations.

“Through Elliott Management, Singer won cases against Peru, the Republic of Congo, and is in a dispute with Argentina for repayment of the full face value of debts acquired at a deep discount during the countries' respective financial crises. (Wikipedia)

And how does he spend his ill-gotten gains? Why, he shills for war... to benefit Israel.

According to Philip Weiss of “Mondoweiss” and Eli Clifton of “Salon”, a war party think tank titled Foundation for Defense of Democracy (FDD) in 2011 took in $19 million from five rabidly pro-Israel givers.

And who are the five who "appear eager to ignite powder kegs in Ukraine and Iran? Writes Pat Buchanan :

“They included Home Depot’s Bernard Marcus, who gave $10.7 million, hedge fund billionaire Paul Singer handed over $3.6 million, and Sheldon Adelson, the Vegas-Macau casino kingpin, who chipped in $1.5 million.

Exactly who is this billionaire, Paul Singer, who manipulated the system to cheat 43 million Argentinians with an economy bigger than that of the Netherlands or South Africa, using insider connections and biased judges to push them into defaulting on their debt and into chaos?

It’s billionaire Zionist, Paul Singer, who, according to Jérome Duval and Fatima Fafatale, has made his specialty buying up insolvent debts for a song and later cashing in on them, consolidating “his fortune at the expense of the Argentinian people, while already setting his sights on Spain…”

It's Paul Singer, now making America "safe" for the Jews, by targeting her Christian culture.

http://www.voltairenet.org/article184957.html

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 23:57 | 6270801 nevertheless
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LOL, don't try to reason with this crowd, they have gone to the dark side, so secure in their right to judge others, they are total fascist bigots. They want rights, as long as its their rights, but to their small minds, gay rights are "special rights", that will lead to, get this, the end of America..lol, you could not write this stuff.

 

America who has started an illegal war on Iraq, killed hundreds of thousands of people, we support terrorists around the globe, we torture, we over throw governments (Egypt, Ukraine, Libya, and so many more), support slave and child labor, support Apartheid Israel, we idolize money, let our poor and mentally ill wander the streets homeless, but give gay people equal rights, "THAT'S THE END".

 

Fuck these bigots, this is an informative site site, but it collect these troll like flies.

 

Oh and they like to vote you down too, anonymity brings out the school yard bully in them, as if 1000 negative vote from the same filth that voted for "W", TWICE, means anything. I would be more concerned if we were in agreement.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 16:28 | 6271141 Lore
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You make a fair point: there are bigger issues about which people should be more concerned and aren't, largely because big issues tend to be complex, requiring control of emotion, effort and self-discipline to achieve depth of understanding, and are deliberately neglected by a media that is primarily self-interested in serving the lowest common denominator, which is to attract the largest, most easily-entertained and manipulable viewing audience. 

In the matter of freedom of speech, one of our shared mandates as participants in a conscientious society should be to seek truth. One of the best ways to do that is by discouraging our children from blindly accepting opinions and value judgements. They need to be free to form their own justified beliefs.  Isn't that the essential innovative lesson of the Scientific Revolution?  Foster critical inquiry among an educated, open-minded populace, and irrational beliefs become self-weeding.  That applies specifically to manifestations of ignorance like petty bigotry, prejudice, racism, phobias and social myths.  Tamper with that critical learning process, and you open the door to some of history's worst tragedies and most dangerous regimes. I think THAT is what the so-called 'elite' fear.  It endangers their self-superiority.

By necessity, formation of a value scale for standards in society includes identification of things that we find offensive and value negatively.  Only a psychopath would suggest otherwise, because a psychopath has no standards: that's their character flaw.  So "hate" legislation is psychopathic, literally wrong-headed, because it interferes with the individual's personal search for truth.  That is a notion that everyone here should find VERY "offensive."

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 22:31 | 6270649 Super Hans
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I first encountered PC speech when I was in a U.S. H.S in the late 80's. I worked as a staff member on the school newspaper, and my writing was often edited without my consent.  

I remember vividly, when a friend told me that I could not say something because of this or that reason, and I told him to go fuck himself!  I was no longer his friend. 

SH

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 22:37 | 6270672 Arnold
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Your friend was probably Gay.

THE most destructive relationships that I have ever been around.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 22:44 | 6270701 JessieSharpton
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"
THE most destructive relationships that I have ever been around."

Obviously someone hasn't hung out with enough strippers and porn "stars".

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 22:59 | 6270731 Arnold
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Gee, post #3 for you.

 

In my early thirties I had an all Lesbian construction crew.

They took instruction, were careful with their tasks, asked intelligent questions and were absolute failures in their personal relationships.

When you reach thirty, get back to me.

 

In fact if you reach 15, get laid.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 23:19 | 6270772 JessieSharpton
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Contact me when you get a brain.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 08:28 | 6271286 New_Meat
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Most of the children fall immediately into weak-assed ad hominem attacks.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 13:33 | 6272500 GoinFawr
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Arnold, were they building secondary containment enclosures for you, IE dykes?

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 00:59 | 6270916 TheReplacement
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Strippers and porn stars are exactly who Jesus would hang out with in this day and age.  Of course he would abstain and that is what seperates the son of God from man.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 07:00 | 6271174 shovelhead
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I can totally see that.

Jesus and Anal Annie hanging at Denny's having Gland Slams.

Hold the bacon.

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