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Official Greferendum Results Show "No" Landslide: Singular Logic Projects "Oxi" Victory

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Update: The Greek interior ministry vendor Singular Logic projects that “No” vote will prevail with over 61% of vote in Greek referendum.

It would seem that the Troika's fearmongering campaign backfired:

 

And:

Earlier:

It seems the early forecasts showing the No vote in the lead were right: according to the Ministry of the Interior, with over 31% of the vote counted, the "No's" have a resounding lead with well over 60% of the vote.

Keep track of the votes as they come in live at the following page:

Source: ekloges

 

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Sun, 07/05/2015 - 14:46 | 6272927 firewolfsblog
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That's the sound of inevitability Mr. Anderson

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 14:47 | 6272932 RiverRoad
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   OXI - CLEAN!!!!!

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 14:50 | 6272953 smacker
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Russian oil pipeline engineers and negotiators already en route to Athens ... ... ... ... ... ;-)

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 15:16 | 6273104 newsoutlet
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Who will buy it and what wil be the price after west completes nuclear deal with Iran :D

Ou my.... poor poor ruskies.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 15:41 | 6273260 smacker
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Dream on Latvian baby...

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 14:51 | 6272957 y.detor
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THIS IS GREECE: As I wrote here before the referendum we have a NO over 62%!!!

Now its time for OBAMA to kill Merkel and Lagard. If he doesn't do it NOW then Greece is out of EU...

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 15:02 | 6273037 RiverRoad
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Obama can't kill anybody.....he won the Nobel Peace Prize.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 20:51 | 6274527 y.detor
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Come on now dont tell me that Merkel cant have a usefull servant "visit" like 

Dominique Strauss-Kahn... or something like that... An easy political kill like that is funny too!
Sun, 07/05/2015 - 14:51 | 6272960 razorthin
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Does anyone else find irony in that "oxi" kinda looks like "oui" and "nai" looks like "nein"?

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 14:57 | 6272996 razorthin
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Jesus Christ!  Never, ever lose your sense of humor!

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 16:08 | 6273371 vic and blood
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To the down voters: go take your Ex Lax.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 14:53 | 6272965 Iam Yue2
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It was the FT that lost it!

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 14:55 | 6272981 ngkaknes
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Where is the 'Hitler finds out...' meme for the Oxi victory?

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 14:56 | 6272983 Omega_Man
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Crush the central bankers!! Greece fired the first shot! 

BRICS must go to a % of gold backing and do swaps with Drachma, we can get this over tomorrow and start a new world! 

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 15:07 | 6273071 besnook
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iceland was first

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 15:20 | 6273152 Deathrips
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Greece wont be the last.....

I didnt sign for that shit either.

 

RIPS

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 15:08 | 6273001 Md4
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Congratulations, Greece...

You made the right call, and have, hopefully, taken the first step toward your recovery.

It's up to you to recognize the codependency that's kept you from getting well, and this vote recognizes the debt slavery you're under MUST end. It is, and will be, pointless should you continue to engage the troika, AND the EU.

The EU doesn't want to acknowledge it yet, but it is THEY who are on their way out, and good riddance to it. Less concentrated power is ALWAYS better.

Watch what Germany does now...

In any event, the next step is NOT to engage the troika or the EU on more negotiations; IMO your next step is to leave both AND the euro.

DO NOT engagage these cretins...LEAVE THEM.

Will there be a lot of hard work and suffering in your immediate future, as you wrestle with the internal causes of your need for outside support?

Yes, but if anyone can restart honest democracy and real capitalism, it might as well begin with YOU, the ancestral birthplace of democracy.

Will there be a lot of hardship and pain to endure as you break your addiction to bad social habits and policies that have placed you in a position of such weakness and dependency?

Yes, and much hard work, as well as patience and tolerance for each other, especially those who are older, and much more wedded to the systemic roots of the problem. They will need to be treated with respect and kindness as the country reckons with powerful, liberating change. The journey will be smoother if EVERYONE feels invited to participate.

I'll say more later...

But for now, enjoy your victory over external oppression, and DO NOT seek to reengage it.

They've got their own thinking to do about right now...

...go on with your new business, and let them have themselves to do it.

m

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 14:58 | 6273006 gwar5
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Ok, so now there is a liquidity vacuum in Greece. Perfect opening for Chinussia.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 14:59 | 6273015 jmcadg
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Capitalism is not the problem, Crony Capitalism is.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 15:03 | 6273043 The Delicate Genius
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capitalism will always tend toward "crony capitalism" just as government per se will always tend toward totalitarianism.

It's just an ethos, just a system of ownership and bargained for tokens of exchange value.

It isn't the Secret of Life, and it can be as helpful as fire or as destructive as... fire.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 15:54 | 6273149 Volkodav
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Productive Capitalism  vs

Finance Capitalism

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 16:15 | 6273395 tumblemore
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money-lending for consumption is parasitic. it doesn't add anything only takes away.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 14:59 | 6273017 o01tac
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I'm expecting a divided EU tomorrow. Some will see opportunity here for sure. Would love to see Irish Govt. step up to the plate and look for cuts

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 15:13 | 6273099 RiverRoad
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Irish step-dancers....Putin tap dancing?

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 16:15 | 6273394 o01tac
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Funny thing I lived most of my life on a road called River Road. WATCH THIS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu5sTyAXyAo  and you might understand the Irish situation . We were ripped off big time.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 16:27 | 6273435 RiverRoad
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I love the Irish; I'm Irish on my dad's side.  And you bet you were ripped off big-time.  Screw the EU banksters.  We'll all go step-dancin' on their graves someday.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 15:02 | 6273040 bankonzhongguo
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It's not over til it's over, but this should also ignite a domino effect for the other PIIGS and actually give pause about the relationship between debt, human beings and the banksters.

Maybe the story here is not money and central banks, but usury, indebtedness and meta-slavery.

It should have an impact in the US as well, but the lame-stream media hate Americans and work for the banker-slavers.

If things pan out for Greece in the next week and the troika can't reformulate "a plan" then all kinds of multi-polar "solutions" have an opportunity to come to a real market and find some equilibrium for the Greeks. Greece is not going to wink out of existence.

Things will change in Greece, but maybe taking the Icelandic route will make its proud people prouder after enough tears are shed.

It will be important for Greece to stop negotiating on these topics outside their country.  When the IMF and the Germans comes to Athens they need to be greeted by thousands of angry peoples ready to rip limbs from torsos.

This story is about dignity. The dignity of elderly Greek pensioners, of third-world peoples yoked into the same schemes for the Corporate benefit all the way out to hapless American Millennials signing up for blind student loans like lemmings on the cliff.

All this and the very very very few that seem to thrive and profit from the misery of others.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 15:04 | 6273047 bid the soldier...
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EU to outlaw referenda.

Brussels to declare referenda illegal.  Herr Juncker proclaims them undemocratic. "How can the people make such important decisions?  After all they are the same fools that elected their crooked politicians."

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 15:13 | 6273102 ANestIOS
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OXI. Not the end of the EU nor the end of the euro and the eurozone... only the changing of the guard. A new generation of politicians that will capture the imagination of the people like Tsipras and Varoufakis in Greece. Europe's democratic heritage and enlightenment based ideals will prevail.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 15:18 | 6273136 objectivist
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This is a nightmare for Sariza.  If people had voted Yes, then when things collapsed they could say "Things would have been so much better if you'd voted as we told you." 

 

But now that the populace has gone along with them, the party will get ample blame for the death and decay.  Bring it on. 

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 15:18 | 6273137 o01tac
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I'm expecting a divided EU tomorrow. Some will see opportunity here for sure. Would love to see Irish Govt. step up to the plate and look for cuts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu5sTyAXyAo

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 15:18 | 6273138 objectivist
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This is a nightmare for Sariza.  If people had voted Yes, then when things collapsed they could say "Things would have been so much better if you'd voted as we told you." 

 

But now that the populace has gone along with them, the party will get ample blame for the death and decay.  Bring it on. 

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 15:52 | 6273300 insanelysane
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The Roman Empire fell one day in history and the next day the Italians woke up and went to work just like every other day before or since the FALL of the EMPIRE.  Try not to be shocked when you don't see death and decay in the wake of a financial collapse.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 15:32 | 6273218 Ocean22
Sun, 07/05/2015 - 15:35 | 6273221 vincenze
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Will it be the same about the US debt?

Baby boomers unloaded all their debts to their grandchildren and live pretty comfortably.
One fine day, the grandchildren will wake up and refuse to pay any debts.

Remember that when you invest into your 401k, which is mostly used to buy the US Treasuries and Debt. You may get nothing in return.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 16:33 | 6273459 rejected
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Well now that the younger gens outnumber the boomers we should see this debt accumulation by government cease. Right?

Exactly who is making all those school loans?

Who voted Obama twice looking for free health care?

It's a stinking mess, I'll give you that but it's multi-generational. This shit started at the turn of the 20th century,,, long before the Boomers and I don't see any sign of the brakes being put on by the whining Millennials / X'ers.

And your right about the 401k's. Just another scam by Wall Street.

 

 

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 15:34 | 6273230 Infinite QE
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Local Diebold staff terminated.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 16:11 | 6273383 AlaricGaudiTheSecond
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Aww!!! No two weeks notice!!??? They will be relocated to Florida for sure.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 15:35 | 6273234 The Delicate Genius
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thing is that umbrella might well be some kind of M4 before too long...

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 15:41 | 6273243 newsoutlet
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This is a question Tsipras asked grannies:

"Should the proposed agreement be accepted, which was submitted by the European Commission, the European Central Bank, and the International Monetary Fund in the Eurogroup of 25.06.2015 and consists of two parts, which constitute their unified proposal?

The first document is entitled 'Reforms for the Completion of the Current Program and Beyond' and the second 'Preliminary Debt Sustainability Analysis'."

 

Beside the question are two boxes: "Not approved/No; Approved/Yes

 

How much do you think people in Greece:

1.) understood the question

2.) read both documents

3.) made analyses on proposed offer and alternatives

 

 

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 16:18 | 6273407 rejected
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No,,, they're just tired of paying the bill, suffering and watching their nation get swallowed up by a bunch of banksters that could care less..

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 16:55 | 6273563 Max Steel
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Says snow idiot who believes West is a democracy . Lol ducking shoebox. 

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 15:40 | 6273259 validate
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Paper ballots made itall possible

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 16:12 | 6273315 Volkodav
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dup   worked in Crimea also

grannies hand counted

                    Crimea is still celebrating

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 16:27 | 6273433 AlaricGaudiTheSecond
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And russian intel firewall to prevent Nazi Brussels hackers to rig it

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 15:50 | 6273289 insanelysane
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In the last week or so I don't remember Spain, France, or Italy demanding Greeks vote YES.  Hmmm???

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 15:54 | 6273301 22winmag
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The South was right!

 

Southern Europe this time.

 

We are all Confederates now.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 15:57 | 6273319 AlaricGaudiTheSecond
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Domino effect coming. Next stop, Spain.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 15:59 | 6273331 falak pema
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Never say YES on a Sunday : Melina Mercouri.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 16:02 | 6273342 jharry
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I am absolutely certain the greeks will vote yes to stay in the euro, no matter what the fake polls show.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 16:06 | 6273361 rejected
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This is running much like the disagreement between the Southern and Northern states in 1865 which was settled by the complete and utter destruction of the South which then set into motion the wildly out of control government of the U.S. we see today.

Will the EU do a forced union like the US did especially if the other PIIGS decide to leave or will it allow the people to decide.

Stand By for Stand By.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 16:06 | 6273364 AlaricGaudiTheSecond
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I see a false flag coming anytime in Paris or Berlin. Like a suicidal jumbo jetliner depressed pilot or something like that. Or maybe a russian missile gone ashtray.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 16:08 | 6273372 Thick Willy
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Another "false flag" blamed on Muslims according to you ZeroHedge Mudslime apologists.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 16:13 | 6273389 The Delicate Genius
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obvious troll is obvious.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 16:35 | 6273465 Thick Willy
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Go fuck your sister Achmed Muhammed bin Terrorist.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 16:08 | 6273368 Thick Willy
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig8sgY5vRWM

OXI!  FOR FREEDOM.

Destroy the European Union in the name of liberty and the survival of every unique European people and culture!

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 16:08 | 6273369 HowdyDoody
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OT: Another illustration of national serfdom

http://fortruss.blogspot.co.nz/2015/07/ukraines-independence-in-one-pict...

Mr. Arsoniy Yatsenyuk
Prime Minister of Ukraine
12/2 Hrushevsky Street
011008 Kiev, Ukraine

Dear Prime Minister Yatsenyuk

l write to assure you that the US Senate extends its trust in you and shares your concerns over the ongoing dismissal by President Petro Poroshenko of key figures in Ukrainian leadership who have been entirely committed to promoting democracy in your country. I concur, it is necessary to extend every effort to keep Oleksiy Pavlenko in his office of Minister of Agrarian Policy and Food. His discharge will create additional obstacles on the way of widening cooperation between the US and Ukrainian agricultural companies. I also consider it of utmost importance to make sure Yuriy Nedashkovski  remains President of Energoatom Company. It is largely due to his efficient work that Ukraine has an opportunity to intensify cooperation with foreign partners in the field of nuclear energy production.

Besides, I would like to inform you the the US Senate Ukraine Caucasus has considered your proposals regarding Minister of Internal Affairs Arsen Avakov, Minister of Energy and Coal Industry Volodymyr Demchyshyn and head of Ukrgasvydobuvannya Company Sergei Kostyuk. Majority of the Senators agree that neither Mr. Demchyshyn nor Mr. Kostyuk meets the job requirements.  Yet there is no clear-cut solution to the problem of Mr. Avakov.  Senators differ in their opinions. I consider it appropriate to postpone the issue for some time.

Sincerely,

[signature]

Richard J. Durbin

United States Senator

 

 

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 16:55 | 6273561 bid the soldier...
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do as we say not as we do

 Majority of the Senators agree that (put name of politician here) doesn't meet the job requirements.

The pompous Negro from my State, whom I promoted for president of US in 2008 and 2012, did not meet the job requirements and look how he fucked up the world.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 17:42 | 6273821 The Delicate Genius
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it's not like they're using a different playbook...

Ukraine crisis seen softening political ground for foreign farm land sales - TRFN

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/27/food-conflict-development-idUS...

"The crisis in Ukraine looks set to trigger major changes in its vast agricultural sector with state-owned farm land and small family plots likely to go up for sale despite concerns over the impact on local farmers, according to development experts.

Ukraine, known as Europe's bread basket, has the eighth largest agricultural area in use globally and is the world's third largest exporter of corn and sixth largest grain grower, potentially making it a prime target for foreign investment.

But the government has been wary of allowing foreign land sales, fearing rural unrest, and the value of its 32 million hectares (79 million acres) of farmland has been limited by its division into small plots with relatively low productivity.

However economic turmoil emanating from the conflict between pro-Russia rebels and government forces in the east has intensified the need for change, said Heinz Strubenhoff, agribusiness investment manager for the World Bank's International Finance Corporation in Ukraine."

.... ....

Mon, 07/06/2015 - 04:39 | 6275378 dreadnaught
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Monsanto and Archer Daniels Midlands pussies are getting wet over the thought....

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 16:10 | 6273376 Chuck Knoblauch
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IT'S NOT THE GREEK PEOPLE'S DEBT.

IT NEVER WAS LEGITIMATE DEBT.

THE GREEK PEOPLE SAY STICK IT TO MERKEL.

RESIGN BITCH.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 16:10 | 6273380 tumblemore
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Every 80-100 years the banksters really screw up the economy but instead of them paying for it they bribe politicians to offload the pain onto the public.

I'm glad the Greeks voted no.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 16:14 | 6273385 Chuck Knoblauch
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IRISH IDIOTS BETTER WAKE UP.

MY ANCESTRAL HOMELAND IS STILL A DEBT SLAVE STATE.

TOO MANY PUSSIES IN IRELAND'S PARLIAMENT

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 16:24 | 6273424 o01tac
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You are a 100% right . This made my blood boil big time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu5sTyAXyAo

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 16:31 | 6273452 AlaricGaudiTheSecond
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But Irish are fighting rebellious people. I dont understand!

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 17:39 | 6273802 The Delicate Genius
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The Irish fought for 800 years but will finally be destroyed by political correctness foisted on them by racialist hypocrites.

To wit:

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=66782

I do have to admit I begin to see a pattern...

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 16:33 | 6273458 Thick Willy
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At least they haven't forced 30 million blacks and gay marriage on Ireland yet.  And abortion.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 16:18 | 6273401 Anunnaki
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Kudos to Tyler. Mobody was covering the Greece drama as well or completely as Zerohedge.

I forwarded links on several Proggy blogs

You deserve a Pulitzer or whatever similar award is given out for online blogs

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 16:22 | 6273416 Anunnaki
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Mea culpa

I progmosticated yday that neck and neck polls would break 55/45 a la Scottish vote

Glad I was wrong. Feel free to down vote me with inpunity

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 16:34 | 6273462 Thick Willy
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I also thought the same.  Apparently "they" don't completely own Greece yet.  But the fucking British pig media was all 100% propaganda against the Greek people.  It was sickening to read.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 16:47 | 6273516 Ludwig Von
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I did not make a prediction, same reasons as you, but I know the Greeks have a kind of, well, sense of dignity. 

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 16:23 | 6273421 pachanguero
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Here in Asia gold is flying off the shelves....but the paper price is not moving yet,  Maybe this will awaken my mining shares  

 

Go AU!

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 16:28 | 6273440 jtlien
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Its been a long slide since the silver mines of Larium provided the funds to launch the thalossocracy that held off the Persians and made the first great democracy.

Maybe they should start digging and see if there is any left.

 

 

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 16:29 | 6273446 JohnGaltsChild
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Sure hope the Fed is watching......now on to the bank to withdraw some more.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 16:38 | 6273474 pcrs
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yes, capitalism, that has been the problem in Greece al these years. Not.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 16:45 | 6273509 Guentzburgh
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YEEEEEEAAAAAAAHHHHHH ! FK EU EURO and misfit Germany !   FK the retarted Oligarchs and their snakes in Mass media!

 

Impoverished brave Greece shows you all the way

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 17:02 | 6273612 David Rockefeller
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The issue is not finance but real vs. fake democracy.  See, for example:  http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/07/02/in-defense-of-the-july-5-2015-gr...

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 17:12 | 6273659 greydogg
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Greece’s True Referendum Begins Now @ http://99getsmart.com/greeces-true-referendum-begins-now/

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 17:13 | 6273662 greydogg
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Greece’s True Referendum Begins Now @ http://99getsmart.com/greeces-true-referendum-begins-now/

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 17:27 | 6273740 umdesch4
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Anyone notice how the percentage for OXI is slipping as the last 9% of the votes come in? I guess that's all the doctored numbers. I wouldn't be surprised if this plummets below 60%, just for the sake of optics.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 17:43 | 6273825 umdesch4
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Seriously, down from 61.51% to 61.27% in just the last half hour. Anyone else watching this?

Mon, 07/06/2015 - 01:25 | 6275218 Victor999
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Seriously, you are wrong.

Mon, 07/06/2015 - 04:36 | 6275377 dreadnaught
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OMG! we could see a YES upset the way the trend is going!!! sorry=100% counted 61% vs 38%   go whine somewhere else, lady.

Mon, 07/06/2015 - 04:34 | 6275376 dreadnaught
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idiot-the upper page link shows the official numbers with 100% counted- 61% vs 38%

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 17:32 | 6273773 Chuck Knoblauch
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THE PRESS IS ALREADY LIMITING COVERAGE OF THE OLIGARCH'S DEFEAT/GREEK PEOPLE'S VICTORY.

THEY STILL CONTROL THE FIFTH COLUMN.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 17:37 | 6273795 The Delicate Genius
Sun, 07/05/2015 - 17:44 | 6273827 I-am-not-one-of-them
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Oxi counting for Greece.

 

Oxycontin for Banksters.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 20:05 | 6274396 db51
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Love the Daily Telegraph...Little Greek Headline and a full frontal of those Useless Fuckwad Royals and their crying spawn.   Fuck the Monarchy...You people are fucked up in Britain....throw those useless cocksuckers out in the street.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 20:15 | 6274429 hooligan2009
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haha..made me throw up in mu throat a little... looking at your comments and your toon avatar as well..i guess at least bush or clinton the third have to stump someone elses money to get elected in a fair electornic vote ;)

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 20:19 | 6274439 Livermore Legend
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But a Drop in the Bucket......

As I've said, TRILLIONS, NOT BILLIONS, will be PERMANENTLY LOST by CURRENT RENTIERS.

Why Lose ?

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 20:20 | 6274443 NubianSundance
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Well it's nice to hear that rock solid financial showcase France is going to step up to the plate and help Greece out. Baguettes?

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 20:29 | 6274460 hooligan2009
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The first step in solving a problem.is recognizing you have one..

Oxi = "Athens, we have a problem"

the next step is solving it.

if you Greece opts for the British or Norwegian model of participating in Europe and it doesn't get manufacturing/employment that is already a "going concern" and not based on robbing Europe’s tax revenues like Ireland does, or creating false (infrastructure) projects like the unelected European commission and EIB do (play "road to nowhere" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWtCittJyr0) Greece still actually has to solve its own problems. Just because you admit a problem, does not solve it.

I recommend they float two kinds of drachma...two super drachma notes, each worth euro 250 billion, present one to Europe and put the other in their parliament with a motif

?? ??? ???????

Problem solving depends on how strong and proud the Greeks still are as a nation. assess benefits There is a huge deficit in what is produced to what is being claimed via benefits. They need to be in line. No monetary welfare, accept only humanitarian aid, NO DEBT, ever again.

 

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 21:27 | 6274655 JohnGaltsChild
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Or, in the case of the IMF, the first step in solving a problem is to recognize that you are one.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 21:54 | 6274750 hooligan2009
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yep.. funny how a lot of young international bankers get to do a 2 or 3 year stint at the IMF so that they know that money actually has no value whatsoever once you cant print it out of thin air..time to do another study o the usccess or failure of the IMF, World Bank, EIB, IADB so that the new China infstructure bank can start providing for the hundreds of billions of yuan in bad debts it is about to incur... out of thin air of course.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 20:53 | 6274530 NoWayJose
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Do not for one moment expect the EU/IMF to give any debt relief to the Greeks. Their whole goal has been to topple Tsipras and get a new compliant technocrat government installed. Be prepared for a hard line, with the goal being to let the Greek banks fail.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 21:31 | 6274678 PoasterToaster
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Looks like it's not up to them anymore, eh?  That's the magic of authority- it vanishes in an instant.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 21:29 | 6274668 PoasterToaster
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The Free Shit Army that consists of Pensioners (Social Security recipients for US types) and Government workers was outvoted by all the people who have no job and were told to fuck off by the aforementioned people who already had theirs.

Looks like this age-related tipping point will be cresting as a wave throughout the Western World.

Mon, 07/06/2015 - 01:18 | 6275213 Victor999
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Let's hope not.  People of all ages should be uniting against bankster rule.  Do not let them insert new factious divides among the people - that does us no good at all.

The people should be educated to understand just who are the real enemies of society and then remain focussed on them.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 22:37 | 6274898 JoJoJo
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Europa dumped Greece yet 40 percent of Grecians voted not to get dumped.Too late! Thank Peter Schiff for that one. BTW look at ancient symbol of Europe - Europa riding on a beast re: Revelations

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 23:58 | 6275070 vic and blood
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The 'Europa kidnapped by the bull' meme probably antedates Revelations by at least a thousand years. If I recall, Europa was a Phoenician princess or Queen. The bull may have been Zeus, I don't remember. Since the Ten Commandments were entirely borrowed from the extant Code of Hammurabi, Psalms and Proverbs mostly have an Egyptian origin, and Song of Solomon has an eastern origin, I don't see any surprise that a European myth found its way into Revelations. The Philistines and the 'sea peoples' were of (original)European origin and rubbed elbows with the Israelites, until they were genocided by the Israelites, of course. The Indo-European Hittites were long gone and that contributed to the power vacuum in the Middle East that allowed a savage tribe of Arabs to take over.

Mon, 07/06/2015 - 16:32 | 6277705 JoJoJo
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John in Revelations knew that he was referring to the ancient symbol of Europa which predated Revelations, and so did those reading the semi cryptic last book of the Bible. He did not pretend to invent the concept.

There are vast differences between Moasaic Law, including 613 additonal commandments to the 10 basic commandments or "words."   Before Hammurabi God promised punishment to killers as in after Cain killed Abel.

http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/code_of_hammurabi.html

In any event you are honest enough "not remembering" some of which you speak.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 22:46 | 6274924 yogibear
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I'm looking for Greek olive oil.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 23:06 | 6274968 847328_3527
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Impressive win. If nothing else, they are united in their vote!

Mon, 07/06/2015 - 02:31 | 6275301 honestann
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Politicians love this.  They've converted "capitalism" into a dirty word by calling their corruption "capitalism" for so many years.  No hope for humans.  Game over.

Mon, 07/06/2015 - 07:14 | 6275613 VisionQuest
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No doubt the interlocked global banking industry & the politicians they bankroll are men without honor or scruple. The human race has hit a bad patch on the continuum from Here to There. Wise men of the ancient East say global convulsions have wiped this corruption of men clean from the face of the earth many times before. Maybe that's what it will take now to break this absurd & ridiculous circle of greed, war & exploitation. These psychopathic monsters won't stop until they ARE stopped.

U.S. American government & culture is, comparitively speaking, the new kid on the global block. That is the #1 reason why mongrel bankers, politicians, tyrants & bureaucrats have had such an easy time oppressing U.S. citizens. In a nation that was "conceived in Liberty & dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal" it is nearly impossible for an ordinary U.S. citizen to imagine let alone accept the fact that there are certain individuals here & now (and in all the ages of human history) who absolutely hate, loathe & despise the very idea of human contentment, liberty & equality.

Monstrous individuals have wormed their way into pinnacles of earthly power. They dedicate their lives to sowing seeds of confusion, consternation, oppression, tyranny & destruction. They thrive on human misery. They disguise their sadism with faux-compassion for every foiable of human nature. They transmogrify every kind of human weakness & perversion into power for themselves. They are the very ones Jesus of Nazareth accused in his scathing judgment of the Pharisees: "You are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."

This terrible propensity was made clearer to me as I read Winston Churchill's "A History of The English Speaking Peoples." From his deeply informed political perspective, Mr. Churchill tells the tale of England's rise. He describes the signal events that shaped more than a thousand years of English history. In his elegant narrative Winston Churchill brings to life those churchmen, kings & ministers who, against odds that would cause a Vegas bookie to laugh out loud, managed to wrestle a dominant civilization from the squalor of savagery.

Have we reached the end of an Age? Is there no one who can rise up in a love of honor & liberty and lead with genuine compassion & understanding? Are Benjamin Franklin's prophetic words coming to life in our generation? Have we as a people become so corrupt that we deserve only the tyranny of a despot for our government? Maybe so, maybe no. This present-day concerted effort to destroy English-speaking civilization isn't new. What is new is how few in leadership there are who are really willing to risk their life, their fortune & their sacred honor to resist these highly intelligent & malevolent forces of tyranny & oppression.

Tue, 07/07/2015 - 21:40 | 6278952 honestann
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All this is just the story of predators vs producers (their prey).  As long as prey refuses to vigorously defend themselves, predators dominate.  Simple.

As you say, this has played out many times throughout human history.  The difference now is, the predators have extraordinary technology that their prey freely supply to them.  And so, this time is different...

Humans are finished.

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