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Greek Referendum Polls Close: "No" Seen Ahead By Most
At 7pm local time the Referendum polls closed. Here is what the early forecasts predict:
- A poll by GPO on Mega TV gave 51.5% in favor of “no” and 48.5% in for “yes”
- Metron Analysis on Antenna TV showed “no” leading with 52% vs 48% for “yes”
- MRB on Star TV showed “no” leading with 49%-54% vs 46%-51% for “yes”
- Marc opinion poll for Alpha TV shows “no” ahead with 49.5%-54.5% vs 45.5%-50.5%
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Metron No's rising to 52% in the last poll:
Here is the latest breakdown by the various forecasters - Oxi ahead everywhere:
The Greek government is already releasing victorious proclamations:
DefenceMin @PanosKammenos: "This shows Greek people can't be blackmailed, terrorized, threatened. Democracy wins" https://t.co/7sv4aXxaLN
— Derek Gatopoulos (@dgatopoulos) July 5, 2015
Incidentally, a huge scream of "No" can also be heard in the vicinity of Sonnemannstraße 20 in Frankfurt am Main.
And perhaps just as loud screams are coming from the corner offices of various UK and Ireland based bookies, virtually all of whom had "Yes" as a sure bet with Paddy Power even paying out the "Yes" vote. Well, it may want to demand its money back because oops: suddenly the No's have it 80%.
2 hours until the first official results are out but if this result remains unchanged, CNBC may have to bring its "markets in turmoil" producers early from holiday vacation.
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NO means a Nuland fuck you Europe.
Buy MIC stocks.
The Euro is fucked either way!
Yes or No ... its a win-win situation for Greece
Yes = Get more $$$ No = Dont pay your debt
Its like asking a family if they want to stop paying their 1 million dollar credit card debt of if they would prefer to borrow some more ...
Its not valid until a technocrat counts the votes
START The DRACHMA Fiats Printing Presses (In Canada)...
Drachma would be too easy to manipulate for the bansters. So its not going to happen. The greeks are smarter than that.
While Ruble or Yuan would be funny, to really piss off EU they should go with USD.
Thats being said, Swiss Franc may also be a good option.
60-40% now
This is a replay of the Scottish referendum. There the separatists were leading right until the result than lost. The media messages are encoraging marginal 'no' voters to stay away because 'no' has 'already won' and encuraging marginal 'yes# voters to turn out.
NO FTW
PIIGS out of EU...
..what is the exposure to all that debt being written off ?
How much debt do they carry that will be written off ?
Anybody know the number ?
I just want to stack some more Ag at $16 or under an ounce tomorrow.
I'm sure it was a no, but the vote count will say YES!
Let's not make any hasty calls here. This ain't over until they finish counting the votes from the Chicago cemetary precinct.
It's not valid until a World leader acknowledges it on msm.
But the card stops working on Monday. That's going to leave a mark.
What would Zeus do?
he would round up the cows...time to work again in the salt mines!
A new generation needs to come out of those thighs.
OXI !!
Do not worry, the MOTHERFUCKING PARASTIC CRIMINALS over at ECB, BIS, IMF, FED will insure that the election is a resounding "yes".
END THE FED.
They are strengthening the voting algos as we write.
Looking at the polling numbers above, it is a lot closer than I expected. I was hoping for NO but just knew the YES would be in the lead. This is actually good news for us who want to end this shit show world wide. If the NO vote passes , you can almost bet the main stream media will be having all sorts of fake evidence showing voter fraud. This is how they work.
This is an old versus young vote. The unemployment rate among young people is better than 50% increase. They have nothing to lose.
I dare not believe a 'no' vote has been successful, but I pray it is.
I've just suddenly had a very bad feeling about this. The Greeks will vote no. This is already baked into the cake by the MIC. The other nations like Spain and Italy will now agitate for freedom. Greece will be made to suffer. It's one thing for a little country like Iceland to give the finger to the Banksters. But Greece, Italy, Spain....no way. They will be made to suffer. Even out of the Eurozone. This is going to accellerate the coming cashless system. It will start in the Scandanavian and Germanic societies of the Eurozone 1st, then progress through the rest of the eurozone. Followed by Asia, then the U.S. 5 years for the Eurozone, 10 years for the U.S. The reason for the U.S. getting involved is that we are part of the NWO now and we have already been harminizing our laws with Europe for the last 20 years. This will also happen with Asia and the TPP. Ergo....part of that integration with the Eurozone and Asia will be banking practices, including payment systems. Cashless is the ultimate goal for both speed of transaction, real time data aggregation and of course.....control by the MIC. And they cannot allow themselves to be seen as weak by losing Greek or other countries. While they may let some go to suffer on their own, they will also endevour to finalize the cashless system which will make any country outside the system null and void at best and outlaw at worst.
Did shit hit the fan?
Considering how well exit polling has worked lately, who frigging knows. I want to see 'no' win though, If for nothing else then the fun the markets will have tomorrow.......
I have a feeling the same thing will happen to the Greek "no" votes that happened to votes for Ron Paul in the primaries. Annnd they're gone!
To this day we still have 0 votes from 5 counties in NH (largest county in the state still has 0 votes) UhMerika
With the stupidity of the rigged markets that last several years I wouldnt be surprised if the markets tomorrow hit ALL TIME HIGHS. I am glad that Greece had the balls to go against the BIS, ECB, FED, etc... and I hope other countrys will follow their lead and give a BIG FUCK YOU to the BIS, ECB, FED etc. FUCK YOU NULAND. YOU BITCH.
The less the currencies are worth, the more the market will go up.
A no vote, even if Greece collapses will encourage others and Spain is coming soon and the Sith Lords will find it harder to bully......
"Turn those machines back on!!!"
"Dewey Defeats Truman"
These polls coming out saying it is close means Yes will steal it. Happens in every stolen fake election.
Now if they vote no and gold goes down then Janet Yellen has a penis.
The size of Jane Dillingers ?
...not that there's anything wrong with that
Either way you can hear the MSM pundits already.
"PM's are showing weakness, a sure sign to investors that a deal will be reached soon that will help the whole Eurozone, not just Greece. There is speculation the PIIGS will now all receive Spiderman towels, something that should have happened aready. Cooler heads will prevail and confidence is restored."
You don't get as powerful as the IMF without knowing how to sidestep a few land mines.
But sometimes they are hard to avoid.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-mine
Yes, because let's face it - they probably planted the mines in the first place.
Europe will be militarized.
Another wall to be built.
Peace dividend gone.
Socialism to become Totalitarianism, as planned.
Young fools.
A pointless council of despair.
And not as likely as some people think. They would need to bring back the draft and the special snowflakes will go off the deep end.......
First ? after the vote:
"So who gives me money now?"
White knights will suddenly appear, as planned.
The fan has been gone for a while. Now it's just all the central bankers throwing shit against the wall.
What a shit show. Congrats Greece. Fuck the EU. So what now? Civil war..... I say it's a 50-50 shot.
Old vs Young prolly.
Hell of a way to balance the budget.
Most developed countries face the same demographics. In the end it has to come down to young vs. old. If there is to be any hope for the young, the old will have to pay in a big way.
Young people are the dumbest mother fuckers ever....they don't stand a chance
More likely a military coup (with Nuland taking photocalls for handing out cookies to the brave troops).
Bring Henri Paulson and Brnanke back, we need a emergency meeting and a laser printer.
Buy Raytheon stock.
Halliburton too.
Peace in Europe is at an end, as planned.
Young fools being played like toys.
What ? The Greeks refuse to live like debt slaves? They refuse the tutelage of Brussels? How do the commoners dare rebel against the Brussels´ Eurastocracy?.... Heads will roll in Brussels...
It is just the end of the beginning...
Serious question... Did Greek pensioners pay into their own pensions, unlike here in Kalifornia where the producers get the bill?
Retiring at 52, how could they have paid enough in ?
I'm just wondering if they paid ANYTHING and, if so, what percentage?
Greeks paying taxes in, Meat ?
You haven't been paying attention, have you ?
Anything to evade them, it was like that 40 years ago when I there.Doesn't seem to have changed
one iota.
Yeah, what was I thinking, Winston?
Hungover ?
Maybe a little. I was hoping there was actually a shred of personal responsibility in Europe. Silly me.
Greek Pension System Design: http://www.pensionfundsonline.co.uk/content/country-profiles/greece/116
Oops, did not see XAU XAG post below
The dumbest move I ever made was not to take a California state job thirty years ago. I'd already be living the good life retired (somewhere else).
Same here! One of my family members retired at 55. He's in great shape (meaning he can still work and earn his own way) because he plays tennis 3 days a week while others who are the same age toil in the private sector to pay for it.
@Meat Hammer
Lazy Fucker
Do you not know how to look it up?
http://www.pensionfundsonline.co.uk/content/country-profiles/greece/116
http://www.thejournal.ie/readme/greece-pension-system-bailout-negotiatio...
I did look it up, via one of the best resources I know: Zero Hedge readers.
Your just a lazy meat hammer
You're just a lazy Meat Hammer.
FIFY
Your Lazy
Cause the productive part of you......................ran down your mums legs
You are welcome to fix any grammar in the above.
I hope you have a very pleasant day.
Possibly a silly question...but what if the bankers provided a better deal a bit more suitable to their taste? Would this just start all over again?
Citizen!! Would you prefer ass cancer or lung cancer? The decision is yours! Long live democracy!!!
This would create more problems for the Troika, since then France, Italy, Spain and Portugal and more could also insist on a better deal.
Secondly the Greek people were meant to be voting on specific proposals, however in reality were voting, or intended to vote a good deal of them, on whether to stay in the EZ or not.
another black swan just flew on by but the rush is cool
That was a black albatros.
I only get concerned when there is a black wookie flying overhead.
Hell cleaning the windshield.
>black wookie flying overhead
Not to worry. These are usually only spotted near DC or Martha's
I hope Democrat Party operatives don't show up with 'found' boxes of 'YES' ballots from the trunks of cars as is standard procedure here in the US.
Fed will hike rates in September.
Moar QE....
Where is Carl Rove?
Nice hoping for a global market crash ... Fuck these sosiopths drown...
I wonder where the Greek military stands in all this?
They're probably mostly a "yes" vote, I'd imagine, but after/if the "no" vote prevails and they find out they're not getting paid anymore, it won't really matter what they think.
I'm anticipating a return of the 'octobox' screen in CNBC tomorrow - including your favorite cast of imbeciles not limited to Gartman, LIESman and that hot blonde Aussie chick.
At least a return of boxing the clown.
Bitcoin pushing. 300$ here we come.
Have they issued the arrest warrants? Can we go to Greece and start hunting banksters?
A new plan, a new referendum next?
How many referendums will it take?
LOLOLOLOL
No money left for a new referendum!
FUCK YOU BANKSTERS!!!
JUST THINK OF ALL THE MONEY THE BANKSTERS WILL MAKE IN ARMING EUROPE.
LOLOLOLOL!
YOUNG FOOLS.
I'm loaded up with TVIX
No vote I make up for my short losses
Yes vote I'm forced to sell my 76 Buick Skylark
Can't wait to hear the pathetic B/S tomorrow morning from the CNBC Dickheads....
My sources tell me Steve LIESman is having his head waxed and polished for the big day tomorrow
Which head are you talking about?
Starvation and chaos notwithstanding, Greece will have her sovereignty back. Id rather be a free bum on the street than the shackled basement bitch of any yid.
Freedom period...
Bitcoin last price $266.85
That's because there are no paper derivatives by which to suppress it...yet.
The Greek media, owned by corporate interests, has worked hard to proclaim this vote a Yes or No about being in the EU. Instead, it is a Yes or No over accepting austerity bailout as offered by the Troika. A No is simply a refusal of the Troika offer. A Yes is an acceptance of the Troika austerity plan. It is in no way a Yes or No vote on EU membership. BUT, the whore media has been running with this story 24/7. On RT, a Greek woman was asked how she would vote. She said. "I am voting yes, Greece is Europe, we are part of Europe, we must stay in Europe." The stupid bitch has been media brainwashed by corporate interests.
Media in America has a good 90% of people totally brainwashed. In Europe, the number is about 75%. Orwell knew that he who controlled the media in the present could warp the minds of the people. They can change history, they can hide facts and replace them with lies. CNN is an absolute model for hiding facts and telling lies. Today, the CNN runa a program on ISIS, never once mentioning how it was armed, trained and funded by the CIA as the so called Free Syrian Army. 3 years of arms, transport and NATO base camps for ISIS but under a different name. CNN would have you belive, that tens of thousands of heavily armed and well funded terrorists from dozens of different nations just sprung up out of nowhere. Never answering how well over 5,000 European Citizens traveled to Turkey and Jordan to join ISIS. Or how Libyans travled to American training camps, got armed and trained and then went straight to ISIS camps in Iraq, and occupied Syria.
Correct on both points. I would add that the EU elites own the media, and the US owns the EU elites. The EU along with the rest of the Anglosphere are US vassals.
EU journalists have reported (and have been killed) reporting from southern Turkey on the trucks carrying supplies to ISIS across the border. Others have reported on military supplies from Bulgaria (NATO) moving across Turkey to ISIS.
Eurasian analysts say that the US is using a deliberate strategy of tension with one hand that builds up ISIS then with the other hand using the ISIS 'threat' to maintain fear in the US to prevent any antiwar backlash against US empire building, i.e., mass murder, restarted Cold War, military spending, corporate plundering, etc.
BUT....
A "no" vote is a good first step. A full-blown default and Grexit are still very improbable...but one step closer with a "no" vote.
Ultimately, however, there is too much at risk for the entire system for a Greek default. They will find a way to structure a faux-default via haircuts or some other chicanery. Can't let a leg get kicked out from under the 3-legged stool.
You are so right. Another woman was asked how she would vote. She said Yes. She needed her pension. The most important issue in that woman's life, her pension, is under attack by the Troika. God, I hope she is childless.
Surely there must be some hanging chads somewhere.
What are they having for dinner in Hell?
VICTORY
TIME TO ARM EUROPE.
BANKERS WILL MAKE A KILLING.
NO VOTE WAS EXPECTED AT BILDERBERG MEETING.
GERMANY BETTER BAIL OUT OF THE EU B4 IT GOES BROKE.
FRANKFURT VS CITY OF LONDON CAGE MATCH COMING SOON.
Even if the US vassal elites in the EU win this round to plow and plunder the Greek people and nation it will only delay what will definitely reassert itself again at a higher level of crisis in all respects: social, economic, political, and military.
Bankers can simply change the Greek language to reverse yes and no and get the result they want
Merkel - watch out.
Your own party folks are going to throw shit on you for your big blunder to bail out your banks in 2010.
100 trillion nuke to explode shortly.
Diebold to the "rescue"
"It is better by noble boldness to run the risk of being subject to half the evils we anticipate than to remain in cowardly listlessness for fear of what might happen."
Herodotus
"It is better by noble boldness to run the risk of being subject to half the evils we anticipate than to remain in cowardly listlessness for fear of what might happen."
Herodotus
No vote will be followed by lot of EU soul searching and debt restructuring.
MERKEL HAS THREE CHOICES:
1. ABSORB THE DEBT AND WATCH D BANK IMPLODE
2. GET THE HELL OUT OF THE EU B4 GREECE.
3. RESIGN
AH! Another vote that is "TOO CLOSE TO CALL", ripe for the flip to yes. And, the band plays on!
An outcome of NO is not possible, not because of old relics voting yes for their own self interest. But because it threatens the derivative meltdown that "they" fear.
TIC TOC, TIC TOC, TIC TOC.
Fuck the EU could never be said better.
Just a small note:
The terrorism of the established media in greece in the last week, has to be seen to be believed. They were for "yes", and never allowed any other view, and were not just selling fear, they were giving it for free, shoving fear down everybody's throat.
The "no" was at the beginning ~80%. The diff, can be attributed to an all out fear propaganda.
I say that as an interesting example of population/social manipulation, applicable not only to greece.
This is a repost:
What about the USA coming in to save the day with a "bailout" after a no vote?"
They do it to keep global banking from imploding. Maybe sacrifce Douche bank, like Leamnan or Bear. Maybe make Goldman eat them. Or JP morgan.
Who is the AIG equavalent zombie we set up here? Anyone?
Extra bonus points, they don't go to Russia/China, we act like true alies (smirk).
Extra bonus points, USA could get some PR points abroad.
Extra secret plus bonus points, the Fed would now own Europe.
Then we bail out Italy and Spain and...
Might as well just keep adding on the debt, my fellow bitch friends...
Pile that shit on.
Bring it.
We got a big damn printing press, what the fuck you going to do about it? We will print as we see fit.
Bail ourselves out too when the time comes, jettison the Fed as the bad bank, keep all the nice clean and shiny countries, put them under a new global currency...
The show must go on...
I am being silly with this post, but also kind of serious. I always thought it would fall on us somehow.
16 TRILLION WASN'T ENOUGH?
HOW MUCH IS ENOUGH TO BRING THE NWO ONLINE?
Hey get a clue all the worlds countries are mired in debt to their eyeballs! The USA has 100 trillion in unfunded liabilities. China just started their own "pLunge Protetion Group" its a all been a Kabuki puppet show since the gold standard was scrapped in 1971 by our buddy Nixon. So who cares what happens today any market move will revert to the mean with printed phony money as usual and is just another opportunity for those like Goldman etc. to rape the retail investor and their own "Muppet" clients. Sit back for the next few weeks and watch the transport sector only for guidance. At the moment in spite of what CNBC would have you beleive its still in the toilet. Untill that is solidly in the black across the board te market can zoom down any day.
These exit polls remind me of Romney v. Obama. They all showed Obama losing. Then the "official" results came out.
The "No" vote has the lead in opinion polls, according to the FT - One major Greek bank is near collapse
The IMF published a scathing analysis on Friday which practically stated that Greece can’t be saved from bankruptcy.
Real Live Ticker:
https://tersee.com/#!q=greece&t=text
bankruptcy requires an appeal to a higher authority. If it truly is a country it cannot go bankrupt. However it can become insolvent and declare its debt void.
Wait till the absentee ballots from Brussels come in. Millions of Greeks on vacation there right now ya know.
Half a million Greeks unable to vote in referendum because they are overseas .
They live in Canada and run restaurants. I don't think they are returning to Greece.
I'm hoarding cash in a safety deposit box for the turbulent weeks ahead.
Haha. It's not a bank safety deposit box, it's an empty cardboard box under my bed.
The box is not empty. It's full of porn.
Haha. Now everybody knows.
No way it's going to be "NO" ! ! !
A poll by GPO on Mega TV gave 51.5% in favor of “no” and 48.5% in for “yes” Metron Analysis on Antenna TV showed “no” leading with 52% vs 48% for “yes” MRB on Star TV showed “no” leading with 49%-54% vs 46%-51% for “yes” Marc opinion poll for Alpha TV shows “no” ahead with 49.5%-54.5% vs 45.5%-50.5%
some are stuffing yes yes yes in the boxes as we speak
Meanwhile on the CNN recommended reads "Kim Kardashian: my selfies give me power". Anyone have a couple buckets of cement I can put my feet into and go overboard.
Since you would have to wait a while for it to set before being tossed overboard, it is quicker and more efficient to chug it, then jump.
I was hoping that they'd put a little America in the vote. You know, with Merkel being humiliated and dreams smashed, she'd have to come out on stage and sing a song. Plenty of time to let the cement dry and cut my ears off with the anchor line. One can only wish.
But, but, but...Greece is supposed to be fixed.
I wonder, in polling on this, if the two camps are equally willing to tell the truth out in the open? My instincts tell me that Yes voters are going to be more inhibited/reserved in this regard.
FEDERAL RESERVE ALREADY SENT 16 TRILLION TO EUROPEAN BANKS.
ANY WONDER WHY THE CHINESE AND RUSSIANS WANT TO DUMP US TREASURIES FAST???
I must say this comes as a surprize - are the Greeks immune to propaganda and fearmongering?? Those guys do have some balls... the banksters will try to crush them now. I wish the Greek people all the strength - tough times ahead. If they miraculously pull through this it may as well prove a huge service to humanity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqafQVNkyN4
live now
LOOKS LIKE THE GREEK MEN KEPT THE GREEK WOMEN LOCKED IN THE BASEMENT TODAY!
LOLOLOLOL
TESTOSTERONE BEAT ESTROGEN TODAY!!!
Am watching german news (N24) - they are trying to spin the current expectations on NO as not really too bad. My bet is they will have another few votes till they get the "correct result" ... like the EU is so fond of doing.
The Deutsche Wirtschafts Nachrecten says neck and neck, the first poll Greeks reject the Troika (not the institutions, interesting).
OXI
GREEK MEN NEED TO STORM THE POLLS TO DECLARE VICTORY ASAP!
If the "NO" vote holds...firecrackers will go off tonight!...fireworks, used last night.
so, don't plan on getting any sleep in my neighborhood tonite...Right?
OXI dokey, now. Bowels in or bowels out?
FREEEEEEEDOOOOOM!!!