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Russia Celebrates Independence Day By Flying Strategic Bombers 200 Miles Off California Coast
As Americans stared heavenwards at the sound and fury of incendiary devices lighting the dark to celebrate their independence from an over-taxing monarchy, there were other fireworks going off in the skies above Alaska and California. As Fox News reports, two pairs of Russian bombers flew off the coast of California and Alaska - forcing the Air Force to scramble fighter jets to intercept both flights, according to two senior defense officials who did not confirm if the bombers were armed. As Free Beacon adds, it was the second time Moscow dispatched nuclear-capable bombers into the 200-mile zone surrounding U.S. territory in the past two weeks.
While the United States celebrated Independence Day, two pairs of Russian bombers flew off the coast of California and Alaska -- forcing the Air Force to scramble fighter jets to intercept both flights, two senior defense officials tell Fox News.
The first incident occurred at 10:30 a.m. ET on July 4 off the coast of Alaska, Fox News is told. Two U.S. Air Force F-22 jets were scrambled from their base in Alaska to intercept two Tupolev Tu-95 long-range strategic bombers, capable of carrying nuclear weapons.
The second incident occurred at 11:00 a.m. ET also on July 4, off the central coast of California. Two F-15s from an undisclosed location were scrambled to intercept another pair of Tu-95 Bear bombers.
A spokesman for NORAD would not confirm if either pair of bombers was armed.
As FreeBeacon.com further adds,
A defense official said the Pacific coast intrusion came close to the U.S. coast but did not enter the 12-mile area that the U.S. military considers sovereign airspace.
The bomber flights near the Pacific and earlier flights near Alaska appear to be signs Moscow is practicing the targeting of its long-range air-launched cruise missiles on two strategic missile defense sites, one at Fort Greely, Alaska and a second site at Vandenberg Air Force Base, Calif.
In May, Russian Gen. Nikolai Makarov, the chief of the Russian General Staff, said during a Moscow conference that because missile defense systems are destabilizing, “A decision on pre-emptive use of the attack weapons available will be made when the situation worsens.” The comments highlighted Russian opposition to planned deployments of U.S. missile defense interceptors and sensors in Europe.
The U.S. defense official called the latest Bear H incident near the U.S. West Coast “Putin’s Fourth of July Bear greeting to Obama.”
Retired Air Force Lt. Gen. Thomas McInerney, a former Alaska commander for the North American Aerospace Defense Command, said the latest Bear H intrusion appears to be Russian military testing.
“It’s becoming very obvious that Putin is testing Obama and his national security team,” McInerney told the Free Beacon. “These long-range aviation excursions are duplicating exercises I experienced during the height of the Cold War when I commanded the Alaska NORAD region.
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“These are not good indications of future U.S. Russian relations.”
Pentagon spokesman Capt. John Kirby said the incident occurred July 4. He said the “out-of-area patrol by two Russian long range bombers … entered the outer [Air Defense Identification Zone]” and the bombers “were visually identified by NORAD fighters.”
Kirby said the bombers did not enter “sovereign airspace.” He declined to identify the specific distance the aircraft flew from the United States due to operational security concerns. He also declined to identify the types of aircraft used to intercept the bombers.
In last month’s intercept of two Russian Tu-95 bombers, U.S. F-15s and Canadian CF-18s were used.
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As Adm. Bill Gortney, the general at the head of North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD), told reporters in April,
Russia was using its long-range bomber fleet to "message" the US about Moscow's international military capabilities.
"They are messaging us. They are messaging us that they are a global power," Gortney said, while noting that the US does "the same sort of thing" to Russia in Europe.
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Yawn....
So let me get this right.
There were planes.
Flying in international airspace.
Are you fucking shitting me?
RIPS
You know that won't stop the bluster...
We can hear all about this bullshit, but nary a word about what evil deeds are done in Russia and others airspace by the power hungry retards in DC.
Heck, it’s not like they are putting thousands of pieces heavy armor all across the Canadian border similar to what we are doing to their border in Eastern Europe.
Those are, honestly, beautiful looking machines.
And I really hope the one female newscaster pulls through her chemotheraypy/cancer treatments.
Putin's a homo. Obama is handing that clown his lunch. Russia is a JV nation.
Underlying message: WW III will include America.
Well yes, of course, but the US has mainland based SAM missiles that can swipe that aircraft out of the air in 30 to 60 seconds (not to mention the naval SAMs) without launching a single fighter. They only send out interceptors to send the return message, "You ain't got a hope, Alexi".
it would be a good thing if the US stayed at least 200 miles away from Russia instead of going right up to the border.
"So let me get this right.
There were planes.
Flying in international airspace".
Yeh, but it was US international airspace.
putins way of showing middle finger upright to merica on the 4th.
Russia is absolutely the aggressor. Look how they placed their country in the middle of all those US and NATO military bases. A very provocative action.
Hmmmm. How quickly our fighters "scrambled" to intercept those bombers.
Interesting how they WEREN'T able to "scramble" when 4 domestic airliners within our own airspace were "hijacked" on 9/11.
Hmmmm.
That's a two way street ng.
i.e.
The Slow Mobilization Toward War With Putin
By Stephen Blank July 3, 2015
4-star on Russia: The threat that has my greatest focus
Michelle Tan, Staff writer June 26, 2015
Yup and they work so perfectly well isnt it (history shows). Even the previous genrtn plane is enough to send a message to empire of chaos panel.
Our JV President .... is all we need .... to keep clown Putin .... in his Jack-O-Box .... our good people have more important work !
Obama can't handle his own asshole. Only the tru-believers still carry water for this piece of shit loser.
And your blog is awful.
Thought experiment: What would media content look like without government?
200 megaton freedom bombs.
The Russkies simply wanted to see how many sea lions, red crabs, people, etc were dead or dying from Fuki radiation so far along the coast.
God damn, Putin, you could have done all of us NOT ON THE COAST a tremendous fucking favor with just one itsy-bitsy bomb...google earth coordinates 38o34'35.36"N 121o29'34.85"W, 6,000 feet for maximum effect. It would raise the average IQ of the entire State by five points just taking that particular shit hole out.
Whaaa?? 38 34'35.36"N 121 29'34.85"W
Google says that's the California State Capitol Museum. They have a Kid's Zone, Virtual Tours and even a big statue of the genocidal Columbus sucking up to Queen Isabella (probably bond funding 'issues' - Charles Ponzi wasn't even born yet).
Cuz ahm proud to be an Murikin....Gawd blezz the USSA.
As Fox News reports, two pairs of Russian bombers flew off the coast of California and Alaska - forcing the Air Force to scramble fighter jets to intercept both flights,
Since when do we scramble fighter jets? I distinctly remember on 9/11/2001, four large planes deviated abruptly and significantly from flight plans over our airspace and we didn't scramble a single plane.
WHY DID WTC7 FALL DOWN???!!!!
Next to eatin' pussy, the American flyboy loves scrambling best.
look up the range of a KH55 and get back to us on that...
This is part of their long range avaiation missions, that usually venture (It doesn't shock the intelligence community) into US airspace and always intercepted by our aircraft.
Read up on the Open Skies Treaty, in which Russia flies aircraft on selected routes in the USA.
Heckuva job, Noodlemans
Just practicing for the fireworks. That's all.
"Russia has claimed to have built a revolutionary new weapon system that can render enemy satellites and weapons useless.
Its Russian makers say it is a 'fundamentally new electronic warfare system' which can be mounted on ground-based as well as air- and sea-borne carriers.
However, it has refused to reveal how the system works."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3151339/Russia-claims-dev...
And all my buds have 10" Johnsons. Just ask 'em.
Oh, and they don't show 'em either, and I'm OK with that.
first man: and then we were practically wiped out when they attacked us with 10" Johnsons.
second man: OMG how barbaric
Ah yes, the old Russian super weapon trick, there used to be a new one every other month, during the cold war.
Walked on the moon lately? </crickets>
Russian response. well no, but we were in the planning stages when we came across this American flag that was still galantly flapping in the breeze on a moon with no wind and we realized we still have some technological issues to solve
Actually, it was people like Paul Wolfowitz when he was part of Team B at the CIA that was making up all sorts of new Soviet supertech. Because the US could not detect SOSIS nets to detect submarines, that immediately mean the Soviets had a technology that transcended whatever the US had and therefore put the US at peril.
All the tak of Soviet superweapons invariably came from shills paid by the MIC.
You'll see familiar names pop-up everywhere: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_B
Well there are such equipments used to blind sats . If you dont know thats a different issue instead of labelling everything propaganda because usa is the only nation to make it feasible . Technology gap is no longer as others are ahead of you and catching in those areas where they arent .
I'll believe it when I see but realize that a lot of people will vastly exaggerate in order to further their own desires or simply just to preserve their job.
Just because Russia says it to be true is no different than when the USA says something to be true. It's not that I don't believe Russian news or propaganda, I'm indifferent, it's just that I understand how our propaganda is just so amateurishly shabby, likely the result of desperation on the part of key elements hoping to preserve their own positions and status that served them well in the past.
I'm not exactly a Martin Armstrong disciple, but I think he makes a key point that people in government have less power (and competence) than we think they have.
Ignorance is Bliss . What usa makes is superior and what others say is propaganda . Understood your logic mp.nt stronk poster boy.
Why show your enemy, the one lining up all kinds of men and equipment on your borders your secret weapon, should you have one? So they can get ready for it?
Only pull it out if you're gonna use it.
"However, it has refused to reveal how the system works."
LOL. That seems super smart.
Sun Tzu
Surprize the fuckers.
More about it here and here:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/06/25/russian-satellite-gagging-jammer...
http://rt.com/news/269647-russian-satellite-jammer-trial/
However, it has refused to reveal how the system works."
just look at what happened to uss donald cook in the black sea
You beat me to it ...
http://in.sputniknews.com/indian.ruvr.ru/2014_04_21/Russian-Su-24-scores...
Don't be put off by the Russian source, it's one of many, if you want to find a "more trustworthy western media source" (barf!!!, /sarc) do a Bing search << donald cook su24 crew resignation >>
Yep.
And the Chinese are still kicking themselves for telling everybody how to make gunpowder
LASER-like EMP device.
Plus a Teller Disc, launched by a mini-nuke at bottom of deep water-well. Top off the well with a mechanical platform and tube to tweak the direction of the solid angle, time it with a dedicated computer, and you can knock the Enterprise out of orbit.
According to Mr. Spock. Kirk out.
"However, it has refused to reveal how the system works."
The way it works: say you're using high-power electronic binoculars, the kind that can work in very low light and still show you an ant 3 miles away. As you're using it in near-darkness and focusing on your ant, which you see in full detail, that Russian jammer sends one mega-flash of light into your lens. As a result, you're blind for the next three hours.
That's what happened to the USS Donald Cook.
Of course, the specifics are secret. You bet. The Russkies ain't stupid.
Apparently they are extremely stupid, given none of them seem to realize all US DDGs are festooned with electro-optical targeting systems, that can acquire, track, identify and fire on any Su-24 at >60 km range, with no radar assistance whatsoever, and that it can kill with lock-on-jam missile homing engagements, well beyond that.
I guarantee you, the Russian air force and navy know perfectly well what that DDG's targeting systems can do to an Su-24 jammer ELINT aircraft, and they know that every air to air weapon on that destroyer, including the deck gun and cannon have their own electro-optical targeting systems cued by a far more elaborate passive detection and tracking system.
The pilots absolutely knew they were dead man at any moment, if they made the wrong move.
A very small hint:
http://www.sagem.com/file/download/d1485e_vampir_ng.pdf
http://www2.l-3com.com/ios/pdf/Phalanx_low-res.pdf
Many modern navies in the West now have fully integrated 360 degree spherical high-res passive multispectral detection, tracking and engagement, decoys countermeasures and ECM, EW, and ECCM suites. If you don't know even that much, which is pretty basic open-source stuff, then you don't know shit about a damned thing, let alone what you clowns are struggling to articulate. :D
Yes, that's right kiddo, the Russian propaganda factories make shit up like that, specifically for the dumb shits to gargle on. ;-)
But do keep fooling yourselves, it establishes how totally lost in your propaganda fantasy-world you are.
Plus it's hilarious. :D
As the name HMS Invincible says...
Ignorant is back on business.
Talk about propaganda...
such big words, how can a dummy like me understand?
My Belarus tractor is so simple that I can fix it.
give it up Element, these idiots think that the Donald Cook story is real... you'll never sway them from that with facts, that much is certain
Those article were BS . But you are presenting only half story not the full one .
I think you are right,their views are based on reasons other than facts and are impervious to them
And do you know the facts btw ? Certainly not .
Yeah, the response was baked-in wasn't it. :D Though I do love the smell of dissonance in the morning. Any idiocy the Moscow propaganda factory produces becomes instantly 'credible', so it's just amazing to watch them blatantly lying to themselves when they're fully aware that they are in fact lying, but still think they can just pretend they're not ... to themselves ... and also that no one knows!
hahaha! :D
I just find that so hilarious, it's like some sort of Monty Python skit came to life! :D
But the dominant character of these people is pure desperation, to escape things as they actually are - and that's a pretty sad thing to be poking fun at, so they've gone and made me feel pitty on them now. ;-)
We all live our lives in desperation Element. Some quietly, others more visibly agitated. Few turn to face the fear and discomfort because the house of cards so assiduously built by our minds may be threatened. We give too much import to our world view and cling to it in desperation, fearing we'd be lost if it were to crumble. Unfortunately, that is exactly what needs to happen to attain Freedom. Instead we decide to live the impulsive life of photosensitive Paramecium, consumed by our own melodrama.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge in these matters. I will listen impartially being not an expert in this area. Just know your effort is appreciated.
Miffed;-)
........... firstly cook incident is not sham what they did was called as IFF mimic not jamming . Mind you it was carrying single tube which is used to jam only one module it will take a lot of stuff to actually jam a destroyer completwly because it has several modules oh and by the way after that incident donald cook went to romanian shipyard steaightaway for repairs ( you xan check that on i ternt ) and none of the nato ships appeared in black sea 1-2 months after that incident . Only in 2015 donald cook appeared back in black sea after repairs but this time it wasnt buzzed ( google it ) . Oh and putting your bullshittery aside in a war scenario rhose ddgs will notnbe meetinf with Su they will blown to kingdom come with the hwlp of coastal supersonic asms . Now dont crib over that usa owns all defense systems to stop those missiles because thwy dont . Even sea ram rim-116b isnt enough . Those will be sinking toys . Rest regarding usa ddgs 360 optixal view with ecm ew suits well russian destroyers have it too moreover what youre calling a propaganda shit ( aka soviet superweapon ) little do you know but they have EW system to blind usa lacrose recon sat . Usa uses lacrose sat for watching russian nukes and that weapon whichcan be used to suppress cruise missiles and foreign sats isnt new at all they mentioned about it first in 2013 and it will be ready by 2016 . It would be better if you could spend your time on russian mic also rather than doing the usa military tech chest thumping . But whatever helps you sleep desperate man . You can't make stupids think .
Attack Russia first and enough with the bullshit. I'm dying to see AmeriKan technological superiority in action-all we've seen is low-tech terror of 3rd world desert dictatorships that couldn't fight back from the get go. Russia should just lay down and die quietly as they have no chance to defend their country from superior AmeriKan know-how and aggression.
That Iraqi cakewalk went well, so did that USSA mightiness in Vietnam, backed by one patriot spouting technical jargon after another. Russia is neither of these places and I don't think USSA has the stomach nor the will to fight them on their home turf.
They're just having some fun buzzing the sheeple.
Miffed;-)
Better watch out Russia! Obama might...ah never mind.
Fucking ignorant amerikans voted for Obama twice . Ignorant corrupt washington pricks are all queers who focus on the confederate flag , destroy the midddle class and put us to death in thier manufactored wars.
The correct word is "Gruberized" which means "stupid" Americans according to Barry's close friend.
The word "ignorant" has such a ...mmm...distasteful connotation.
… I’ve always liked “ign’ant”.
Movin movin movin Keep them banksters squirming. Putin.
+1 for the Rawhide reference
How do we even know that they were there? Our radar and satellite seems to have problems tracking and monitoring big planes like MH17....
I agree. The government lies about everything else, why should we believe them about this?
Well, you have to give the Russians some credit for keeping those old turbo prop Bear bombers flying. I think it would be pretty damned cool to see them flying because those things are vintage. Can I go for a ride? The Russians took care of their stuff but Billary Clinton smashed most of our B-52's. I would think that retired Lt General should have been more concerned about that moron move. Shut up and stay retired sir because no one needs to listen to your bullshit.
Oh yeah, I almost forgot, you Light General Thomas McIrony, are a racist AND a sexist in the country you so had so much of a part of building. I think you need to be stripped of pensions as a remedy.
yea they really suck with that backwards flying props./s They can only carry 11 fucking tons 8000 kilometers.Basically their cruise missle platform, I dont know how many cruise missles weigh 11 ton but I betcha its more than 1.
Well, I am trying buy one but they seem to be like 57 Chevy's with fuel injection. I know about aviation a bit and can you imagine the cost of keeping one of those old bears flying? I think it is just amazing that they fly those things to this day. They may not have a huge payload but they sure do piss off the American establishment. I wish I could have one but....
Well in the south as in much of the country, dumb white males cheer on Trayvon Obola loving Confederate hating knock out thugs playing college and pro ball like dumb idiots. Usually place slike Alabama, Texas AM, Auburn, Clemson, U of GA, and other idiot places have 110,000 whites cheering knock out Trayvon thugs and white extinction. White southerns cheering on knock out thugs and worshipping them along with Bear Bryant. Idiots.
When white southerners are not cheering that shit on - they love NASCAR which is against the Confederate Flag and whites.
So save us your critique of Russia. The Russians "ain't" cheering on Trayvons like your lot.
You have been around a long time Freddie so I will give you some respect. You should know better. I was only talking about the collectability of the Russian Tu-95. But you my avatar fuck with and caused you to assume some things. My wife is Russian and I have been there on more than one occasion. There is a lot of shit I want to buy from there. I love the old soviet stuff where the price is stamped into the metal. You should think about that.
I do not critique Russia. I buy and and I sell and try to make a profit and I do not like paying taxes. I know that I don't owe you any money or any favors so what is your problem with me? You think that I am full of shit? What do you have for sale that is worth anything? Tell me that and we will talk. How do you want to trade? Do you want fiat cash, gold, silver, guns, ammunition, cars, motorcycles. You think that I can't back up what I say?
I am calling you out Freddie. I think you have nothing and I make money by knowing who is full of shit and who isn't. Prove to me that I am wrong about you. If you can't manage to do that then get the fuck off ZH. Do you even have any money?
Shut the fuck up Freddie.
"I buy and and I sell and try to make a profit and I do not like paying taxes."
Why would someone post on a public blog, that they are a tax evader? I will never get this. I assume that NSA+IRS="duh, able to figure out who is bragging about being a tax evader, if they post about it on ZH." I am not a tax evader, but if I were I sure as fuck would not be bragging about it online.
Also, although I often do not care for or agree with Freddie's posts, I don't care one bit whether he has money or how much. The smartest people I know are nearly destitute; so are the dumbest; it's the great unwashed in-between who are good at grubbing money and are into collecting crap like motorcycles; good for them but who cares about what they have to post.
Also, you have no way of proving to the reading public here that you have any of the possessions that you claim to have. The internet is full of people who claim to have fabulous wealth, but it turns out that they are blogging hamsters in possession of a chew-stick. So your vigorous assertions of ownership of all sorts of desirable material goods just make you look silly, since there's no particular reason to believe it.
12 notical miles off the U.S. Coast?.... And we are supposed to feel safe??? Putin, stop it, now! Putin, you are going to get slapped, if you don't wise up. Just saying........
Kerry and Barry have already forced NTFLX to block his movies, both the streaming ones and thru mail so I'm sure Putin is pissed.
Fuck off. We have tanks, weapons and mobile bases so close to the border of Russia that if our boys got a hard on it would be considered an invasion.
Considering that we used to fly spy planes over the USSR, this is nothing.
We do buzz the borders of other nations all the time.
Those prop driven planes would be taken out long before they had a chance to to any harm if real hostilities broke out.
Those prop-driven planes would have been taken out - past tense. It's nothing to air launch a cruise missile from 120 miles out today and drop it within 10m of a ground target. Strategic nukes are all going to be air burst though, so they could roll the thing out the back of a transport aircraft, light it up and ace it if they got within a few thousand meters over the exact spot. Topol-Ms will do the job just fine from a Russian launch site in eight minutes or so.
Even the Russians don't expect to be able to overfly US turf with a Bear and pickle a gravity nuke in, any more than we expect to put a B-52 over Russian territory. It's unnecessary - that's not how either one will be used in a nuclear war. That was just the original strategy when they designed in the mid-50's.
Don't bother the US. Obama is concerned about transgendering the US armed forces and gay pride.
You wouldn't want to hurt an army full of men turned into woman, would you?
That is the way to go, my boys at ZeroHedge. We do not need to interview Russians, to get their opinions of course. After all, they are just Ruskies. We do not need to really talk about the encirclement of Russia and its desperation to convey a simple point: they will not be enslaved. 200 miles, boys, in international airspace, and you so accurately put it that the Americans were forced to intercept. And I want to thank you for not mentioning that American bases and soldiers are within inches of Russian borders. And thank you boys for not saying anything about the fact that the reliability of members of America's Military-Industrial Complex is just about zero. After all, I have my underground bunker, and I fully plan to survive my plans for WW3. I might even offer the writer of this article a spot: contact my janitor please. So, I congratulate you, my ZH friends, for your even-handed coverage.
Our Hidden Fascist Mafia Master Class Has Hyper-Luxury Underground Bug-Out Shelters. Payed For With Our Taxes. Certainly Not For Peasants Who Have No Ultra-Short Takeoff Supersonic F-35s To Escape.
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They have real nice digs!
See:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3123296/The-ultimate-doomsday-es...
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Underground tunnels can be enormous!:
The Channel Tunnel is 31.4 miles long, making it the 11th longest tunnel in use (the longest is the Paijanne Water Tunnel in Finland, at 74.6 miles), and the fifth longest used by rail passengers. It has the longest undersea portion of any tunnel in the world (23.5 miles). See:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destinations/europe/france/10809946/Th...
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Nuclear Powered Military Tunnel Boring Machines Construct Underground Cities And Nuclear Proof Subterranean Installations – Pictures of $13 Million Boring machine.
See:
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/03/military-tunnel-boring-mach...
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But the Russians also are building shelters for their regular citizens. See:
"....the Russians have not just been building giant underground facilities deep in the Urals.
"They have also been constructing thousands of new underground bomb shelters in major cities such as Moscow.
"The following is an excerpt from an RT article in 2010…
"Nearly 5,000 new emergency bomb shelters will be built in Moscow by 2012 to save people in case of potential attacks.
"Moscow authorities say the measure is urgent as the shelters currently available in the city can house no more that half of its population.
"In the last 20 years, the area of air-raid defense has been developed little, and the existing shelters have become outdated. Moreover, they are located mostly in the city center, which makes densely populated Moscow outskirts especially vulnerable in the event of a nuclear attack.
"In order to resolve the issue, the city has given architects a task to construct a typical model of an easy-to-build shelter that will be located all over the city 10 to 15 meters underneath apartment blocks, shopping centers, sport complexes and parks, as in case of attack people will need to reach the shelters within a minute.
"Of course all of this construction cost the Russians a lot of money.
"One estimate put the cost at “anywhere from half a billion to a billion dollars…"
See:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-26/why-russia-building-massive-und...
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Meanwhile, WW-III is about to boil over:
"Most provocatively, a report published by the Associated Press yesterday reports that the Pentagon has been actively considering the use of nuclear missiles against military targets inside Russia, in response to what it alleges are violations of the 1987 Intermediate-range Nuclear Forces (INF) treaty. Russia denies US claims that it has violated the INF by flight-testing ground-launched cruise missiles with a prohibited range."
See:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-officials-consider-nuclear-strikes-again...
I would be more comforted it i were reading that FEMA/DHS were buying millions of packages of bottled water, 100 million MREs, Thousands of tons of medical supplies;
Instead they let contracts for Bullets, guns and tanks -by the buttload--I guess that tells you what they really think of us....
Where was Boris Alotakrap when this was going on? Kind of suspicious, probably orta' report him.
after all, Russia did stupidly locate their country in an area surrounded by NATO and US Military bases-and next to the Ukraine
The Russian Federation has my permission to do the bomber flights, but I forgot to send NATO n' NORAD the memorandum, sorry.
GO Russian Federation.
p.s. Please let me know when you are going to nuke the USA so I can drive north, thanks a bunch, eh, President Putin. God speed too. Give em' one for the Old Gipper, eh.
Im not so sure that you would want to drive North.
Now that Harper sent Canadian troops to Poland to help train/defend Ukraine. I think we are on the Russians list as well.
President Putin knows that Harper is a USA lapdog CIA installed Prime Minister of CANADA, but he also knows that CANADA is insignificant militarily. Moreover, the Russian Federation knows I have been supporting them all along, and that I am a loyal Grumpy Marxist. Hopefully, President Putin will deal with Harper by offering him a Tim Horton's coffee laced with heavy metals, and radio-active radiation like some detractors have received over the last decade. Moreover, as long as Putin pre-emptively strikes the State of New Jersey, and New York State, I should be able to drive North to eat Moose burgers, and Trout burgers, frogs legs, and yummy rabbits, until the nuclear fallout dissipates somewhat. Furthermore, I think I must be on Putin's good guy list somewhere, but if I'm wrong I'm willing to take that chance so that we can collectively clean the scum USA politicians out of office and put them below ground where they belong.
The so-called Tupolev Tu-95 turboprop can fly significantly faster than our old B-52 jets.
This doesn't matter all that much. It's the hypersonic missiles that they carry that will end up in your backyard.
Or a nuclear power plant near you.
"The so-called Tupolev Tu-95 turboprop can fly significantly faster than our old B-52 jets."
False. The current B-52 tops out at 650 MPH vs. the Tu-95's 575 MPH.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_B-52_Stratofortress
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-95
Those bombers don't need to get that close, they are designed to drop cruise missiles.
they can also be rigged to fly on autopilot after the crew ejects, with shoot me and i explode ordinance ( nuclear )
nobody wins a nuclear war.. it's an IQ test for the Planet and were going to Fail it.
Gee, all these Russkie articles makes me wish I had taken Russian language instead of tagalog in college. I know, I know, it was cool at the time but it has turned out to relatively worthless.
I would be willing to bet that you'd remember no more than 10 words after couple of years have passed.
I did take Russian in college and I might as well be looking at ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs.
I took spanish. But I'm in Commiefornia so it's handy, they don't expect an oldphart, white guy to understand them.
One phrase I want to know in every language..."Shoot the American"
Yeah, you hear it every day so it stays with you.
You might want to pickup the word "kill" also.
Mr. Digits, correction: the Tagalog is NOT relatively worthless, it's almost (or practically) worthless!
You folks know me so I had to look into buying one of the Tu-95 planes. I don't have that kind of money but I had to look. I am going to go tell Mrs. Russian wife that I just bought a Russian Bear but that I need a carburetor for it so her Mom had best get to looking for some parts for me. The funny thing is that she will believe me because sometimes I do buy shit but only if I know a another buyer. I really like that plane and I don't see that as a threat. I see collector value for some ZHer that has more money than I do. I mean it could be misconstrued as an act of war but what really happened was that the Russians had some fun on a drive by. No reason to go to war. In fact I would like them to leave one of those planes here for me. No one builds stuff like that anymore.
It is sitting in Ukraine. I wouldn't be surprised if it ended up in the Novorossian airforce (currently 1 Su 25) at some point. Ukraine seems to be very generous with its shells, mortars, grads, smershes, tanks and armor.
They are flying subsonic turboprop Bear bombers in international airspace off of our coasts when we are likely flying our bombers and surveillance aircraft off of theirs? So, what is the big deal. All they are saying is: "Hey, look, we're here.". During the cold war, we flew over their airspace routinely with surveillance aircraft like the SR71 and U2. I wouldn't be surprised if the US is flying through their airspace and we were just not hearing about it.
The date of the Free Beacon article, a neocon rag BTW, is July 6, 2012! Jeez, maybe stretching a little here.
Just 2 months ago the US was spying on Russia and got scrambled by their pilots. Then they cried like transgendered homsexuals because they were scrambled in an "unsafe manner". Bet Russia didn't cry like castrated eunochs about getting scrambled. http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/11/europe/russia-u-s-plane-intercept/
What do you expect for a Zionist led nation? They have victimhood down pat.
Just 2 months ago the US was spying on Russia and got scrambled by their pilots. Then they cried like transgendered homsexuals because they were scrambled in an "unsafe manner". Bet Russia didn't cry like castrated eunochs about getting scrambled. http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/11/europe/russia-u-s-plane-intercept/
Putin's message to America on the 4th of July..."From Russia With Love"
Maybe the Russians can come and help Americans take their country back. At the end of the Roman Empire, the locals cheered as the Germans came in and cleaned house.
Oh lighten up ~Francis Sawyer~.
Russia dumping Iran, bringing KSA closer to BRICS or it is nothing personal, just business?
Russia Ready to Sell Iskander Missiles to Saudi Arabia
Russia's side of the story,,, if anyone is interested.
http://sputniknews.com/military/20150707/1024300736.html
A couple obvious notes. First, a Cessna 172 can carry nuclear weapons. Actually, a freaking ultralight can carry nuclear weapons. So put that claim in perspective.
Second, the USSA has been jamming weapons RIGHT UP AGAINST Russia (no 200 miles) lately. And so... what? When 4 measly Russian aircraft fly 200 miles away from the USSA, that is news?
I think not.
I think Russia is much too restrained... though they may just be playing the "good guy card", which isn't a bad strategy given how the world is collapsing these days.
At least one can detect aircraft (as long as they aren't tagged MH17). It's what's a lot closer and can't be seen that should be of more concern
<<cough cough>> cruise / ballistic missile submarines <<cough cough>>
Personally I think flying nookular bombers within 200 mi on July 4th is pretty ballsy on their side, given how much the US government enjoys starting wars. It's an exercise that's 1 US nutjob or 1 US computer glitch away from becoming the next Gulf of Tonkin.
"Oh, no doubt about it, we're definitely kind of sure that they fired first"..
Nope honetman . When did usa jam any russian weapons from e.europe ? Russia jammed the usa drone flying over e.ukraine though . You can check it out .
Bear vs F-22 is like throwing rust at a lightning bolt. Just 4th of July rhetoric. When is Russia's Independence Day, anyway?
Oh, wait....
F22 combat radius 410 nmi (with 100 nmi in supercruise) (470 mi, 760 km)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-22_Raptor
Bear carries cruise missiles of the Kh-55 series, e.g. up to 16 of the Kh-102 range about 2500 - 3000 km, low RCS about 0.01 m2 and low IR signature.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kh-55
Still think an F22 is going to be able to get close enough to a Bear to be useful?
If you add to what you said that Bears will be flying surrounded by electronic warfare firewall making them 5 km radius asymmetric target nothing but nukes can make difference.
The both sides know that combination of stealth and electronic noise warfare technologies make them both vulnerable, easily open to attack if electronic defenses bridged and this includes disruption of satellite operations.
Both sides and China know that the big war will start in space including targeting of electronic warfare targets in space and on Earth.
After that chaos would ensue, nukes possible will be flying aiming at command and control assets and hence massive movement off assets to new safer location areas mostly via underground tunnels, once both sides' electronic warfare control and surveillance systems are crippled.
Then only nearly undetectable strategic nuclear submarines will be executing their pre-programmed secret missions if command and control system is damaged. One may speculate that if one side decisively loose space war it would be defenseless and it would be a big question if nukes were used by winning side fearing nuclear retaliation and war could take decades.
So what Russians are actually testing is logistics of getting there before button is pushed rather than test of latest US defense capacities of which both sides do not reveal during flyby provocations.
The inherent problem faced by the US military (excepting the navy): it requires an ocean of fuel to operate, and is used to having high mobility and air superiority. Put a kink in the fuel distribution, and you damage both mobility and air superiority. I'm not sure the military knows how to function under such circumstances.
Do you think that the F22 is able to catch the Russian cruise missiles? LOL
Missiles aboard tu 95 may start much earlier than F 22 will be allowed on the flight.
Do you know why the saying "God Bless America" is correct?
Because America, in all its history, has never fought against Russia.
Russia - this is not Vietnam. After the war against Russia, about America can be said only one the last word: Amen.
Almost as relevant as the question, "Can Russia's ABM system intercept W88's zipping in at Mach 24.?"
Yes of course. Russia's ABM system just make any US missile blind, deaf and dumb piece of iron without a brain. It does not depend on the speed of the of this US iron - at Mach 24 or at Mach 36 or more.
In a limited scenario Its pretty much possible . Soory to hurt your feelings booboo .
Putin should send a few into Dulles on a flightplan and see what Obama does.
Bonus points if he pilots the lead craft, shirtless.
We're gonna need a more expensive bomber to counter that 1950s Soviet turbo-prop technology which can be detected using submarine sonar (it IS that loud). I bet we could spend $1 trillion per plane. You know, to increase safety and help the economy.
youve been reading 30 year old copies of POPULAR MECHANICS. Russia now have some of the saviest, most modern Jets and bombers in the world. As well as state of the art ships
WE are already are spending 1 Billion per plane on the F-35-and after 5 years on, nary a one can get off the ground, after being retrofitted/repaired half dozen times
and ROFL! get this: A test 'fight' between a 1970 US Fighter vs the F35 had the model T come out a BIG winner. The F35 limped home with its tail between its legs
AND GUESS WHAT! ALL of this is coming out of YOUR paycheck and taxes...while you delude yourselves
Bear H incident means
Bear & Homo(read Obamma) incident
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A homo acquired a new taste of raping bear in arse
and tried to get the bear flustererd
Then to the homo, the bear showed up his tool
Now what is HomObamma gonna do?
This is probably bullshit. Part of the scare tactics over the weekend. Since nothing happened how about a big "they flew some bombers" propaganda new story.
US warships with nuclear missiles on board are in the Black Sea, close to the borders of Russia right now.
It does not cause hysteria in Moscow, is not it?
Then why military planes of Russia, near the border with the United States is cause is such a regular hysteria and mourning from the Washington side?
Putin just politely explains the US: If Washington really very wants have a nuclear war against Russia, then Washington can get it in any time.
FOX news never once mentioned the armed neocon stooge regime in Ukraine, immediately next door to Russia itself, though they play up Russian planes 200 miles off the US coast...
Thumbs up to Russia
America is trying to be clever by setting shooting targets in Europe hoping to avoid fighting the war on American soil , feeling safe bounded by two oceans. At the same time imagining that the fall out of war will make Europe weaker which will come crouching on its knees to America for loans etc and at the same time , the conquered Russia will open endless opportunities to the American businesses who will operate the seized oil & gas fields of Russia as well as other natural resources.
America needs to be shaken up from its comfort zone.
It needs to be targeted on its own soil & feel the heat , smoke & radiation of the war.
The step is in the right direction.
(Besides the bad karma of Satan America has piled up to the heaven and heavenly beings need to send fire & brimstone to the Sodom(America) & Gomorrah(Europe) )
Pity the poor pilots of those Bears. 16 hours in a Tu-95 will completely f#ck your hearing - even with ear protection.
In order to press the start button of cruise missiles, the pilot of Tu 95 does not need to have a subtle ear for music.
What silly bluster. Neither does the skipper of an Ohio SSBN.
- Silly bluster - a US warships in the Black Sea, close to the borders of Russia.
- Silly bluster is the Pentagon's plans, on application of a preemptive nuclear strike on Russia.
Russian Tu-95 and Russian submarines off the coast of the United States - it is only Russia's response to the empty and silly bluster and nuclear dreams from the Washington side.
The man in the Kremlin also supports Argentina's Malvinas claim. Argentina's Falkland Islands' cliam is debunked: https://www.academia.edu/10490336/Argentinas_Illegitimate_Sovereignty_Claims
Would have liked to have seen ZH show a list of US troops lined up at Russia's borders with equipment in this story. US cries wolf all the time , bunch of pansies. Sounding like Israel.
But USA is allowing freedom of travel in international waters and airspace and protects this in the world - so what is wrong with flying in international airspace? These stories are silly. If we had a list of all US bullying it pale in comparision to other nations.
Yawn...this stuff used to be daily SOP during the cold war. Now that we have restarted the cold war, why should anyone be surprised when the same shit starts happening?
Oh I forgot, gotta keep the Idiocrats plenty skeered so they give away everything to Uncle Sugar to protect them.
Let me reiterate: "Nations with industry, specifically with strong and diverse domestic potential productionality will win. Those with weak and fragmentary domestic potential productionality will lose."
The U.S.A. has deliberately destroyed its own productionality. Which means we end up with the F-35. All new systems are seriously flawed when they first appear, but the F-35 is far beyond "seriously flawed." And the F-22 is alright, although a bit flimsy and extremely expensive. Meanwhile the Russians have very awesome new PAK FA fighter jets that seem far superior.
This sad state of affairs comes about because of our weak and fragmentary productionality. Which in turn comes about because of our very advanced state of corruption.
We should be afraid! Very, very afraid!
After all the bluster from the Russkie Lovers .... Putin had to throw them a bone .... pretty pathetic .... and I love it !
I like them old bear bombers .... those counter rotating propellers .... look as big as the rotors on an Osprey .... I like a lot of the Russian "Warware" .... they can't afford to make our expensive mistakes .... but Putin still sucks !
200 miles..? well boohoo.....
US/Nato been and is flying jets, navy and ground "advisors" within 2 miles of Russian borders.
Another article that Drudge is carrying says that the California bombers came within 50 miles of US airspace.
At no time did Russian Bombers enter US airspace.
But you should also know that at high altitude even a dumb-bomb can glide 30 or more miles to target.
You've seen how Russia reacts when there are FOUR US fighters in East of Berlin.
How would they react if the US had B52's or B2's within 50 miles of St Petersburg or Kaliningrad...on Victory Day or May Day???
Just saying that doing this on the 4th of July is explicitly unfriendly.
If a sick old bearded man in a cave could totally fool and shut down Norad, imagine how easy it will be for the Russians to do so.
The article is absurd. First off, without closing within 12 miles of the coast they are literally doing nothing wrong. 2nd as a former AF crewmember of a certain surveillance aircraft, the US does this constantly, to even our allies to study their response time and tactics. Hell, I've been on multiple missions where we intentionally flew right on the 12 mile line just to provoke a reaction. THAT is the reason the Russians are doing this, they want the reaction. Flying a strategic bomber within striking distance of its target doesn't really provide you any better real world training than flying it anywhere else. It's all air up there. They're just doing this to illustrate they know where the anti-missil batteries are, and testing our response to defend them. That's about as much news as "Russia has an Air Force"
Your comment doesn't advance the US agenda of fear mongering. Reported.
To go one step further into how routine this is, I've personally put up a Playboy centerfold in the aft hatch window only to have the Ruskie pilot return an enthusiastic thumbs up. I wasn't on another flight but there was a rumor one of our female crew members decided to give them a direct view as well. It wasn't uncommon for them to say over their radio (which they knew we were monitoring), in English, "thanks for the view" "have a nice day" or "we love hip hop" haha
Hey, Ivan! Next time you buzz California, why not stop for some R&R? We got plenty of restaurants, tourist attractions, whole counties devoted to wine, nice looking women on the beaches, etc. And with all our retired military bases we have plenty of long runways for those old growlers. Next time spend some money!