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The Greferendum Shocker: Tsipras "Intended To Lose" And Is Now "Trapped By His Success"
Call it game theory gone horribly chaos theory.
It all started with a report by the Telegraph's Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, whose release of on the record comments by Yanis Varoufakis (which we noted was rather surprising) that Greece was contemplating a parallel currency and potentially nationalizing Greek banks over the weekend, was supposedly the catalyst that got the Greek finmin fired. As a reminder, this is what Varoufakis told AEP on Sunday night: "If necessary... issue parallel liquidity and California-style IOU's, in an electronic form. We should have done it a week ago." And this is what the WSJ said on Monday morning:
... the premier decided to act after Mr. Varoufakis told a U.K. newspaper late Sunday that Greece might introduce a parallel currency and electronic IOUs similar to those issued previously in California. Mr. Varoufakis quickly backtracked on his comments to the Daily Telegraph, but his prime minister had had enough, the people familiar with the matter say.
That was the first indication that the wheels had officially come off the Greek wagon.
Moments ago, we got confirmation of just that, when in another surprising twist it was again the Telegraph's Evans-Pritchard who reported that the Greek prime minister who decisively and unexpectedly pushed for a referendum on the last weekend of June, "never expected to win Sunday's referendum on EMU bail-out terms, let alone to preside over a blazing national revolt against foreign control."
He got just that, and in a landslide vote at that even though "he called the snap vote with the expectation - and intention - of losing it."
Also according to the Telegraph, "the plan was to put up a good fight, accept honourable defeat, and hand over the keys of the Maximos Mansion, leaving it to others to implement the June 25th "ultimatum" and suffer the opprobrium."
He had good reason: according to another Varoufakis quote provided by AEP, "[the Troika] just didn't want us to sign. They had already decided to push us out." In other words, as we speculated in mid-June, the only question was who gets stuck with the blame, and when Tsipras called the referendum, he made it quite easy for Europe; it was even easier when Greece collectively voted "Oxi" to a referendum spun in Europe as one whether or not to remain in the Eurozone.
There is more: with Tsipras having already checked out it was a case of "after me, the flood"
This ultimatum came as shock to the Greek cabinet. They thought they were on the cusp of a deal, bad though it was. Mr Tsipras had already made the decision to acquiesce to austerity demands, recognizing that Syriza had failed to bring about a debtors' cartel of southern EMU states and had seriously misjudged the mood across the eurozone.
But it is what happened next that took everyone by surprise: "Syriza called the referendum. To their consternation, they won, igniting the great Greek revolt of 2015, the moment when the people finally issued a primal scream, daubed their war paint, and formed the hoplite phalanx."
Suddenly the stakes are even higher for Tsipras, who is "now trapped by his success." According to Costas Lapavitsas, a Syriza MP, "the referendum has its own dynamic. People will revolt if he comes back from Brussels with a shoddy compromise."
Ironically, that is precisely why the market soared today after it tumbled early in the morning, because it appeared that the Greek finmin was doing just: accepting a shoddy compromise. Of course, it wouldn't be the first time: the Greeks had come home with "compromise" deals on many previous occasions only to have Syriza tear them apart. And this time the stakes are higher not only for Tsipras but the entire party, which realizes it faces a mutiny by the people, mostly the young ones, those with little to lose, if some 60% of them voted against a deal "at any cost" just to see the government fall back to just such an outcome.
The Syriza MP Lapavitsas is correct when he says that "Tsipras doesn't want to take the path of Grexit, but I think he realizes that this is now what lies straight ahead of him."
In some ways Tsipras tried to backtrack: "The prime minister was reportedly told that the time had come to choose, either he should seize on the momentum of the 61pc landslide vote, and take the fight to the Eurogroup, or yield to the creditor demands - and give up the volatile Mr Varoufakis in the process as a token of good faith."
What would happen if Tsipras did decide to stick it to Europe, launch a parallel currency, sack the legacy central banker and nationalize the insolvent banks? We already laid out the key points previously but here it is again:
They would "requisition" the Bank of Greece and sack the governor under emergency national laws. The estimated €17bn of reserves still stashed away in various branches of the central bank would be seized.
They would issue parallel liquidity and California-style IOUs denominated in euros to keep the banking system afloat, backed by an appeal to the European Court of Justice to throw the other side off balance, all the while asserting Greece's full legal rights as a member of the eurozone. If the creditors forced Grexit, they - not Greece - would be acting illegally, with implications for tort contracts in London, New York, and even Frankfurt.
They would impose a haircut on €27bn of Greek bonds held by the ECB, and deemed 'odious debt' by some since the original purchases were undertaken by the ECB to save French and German banks, forestalling a market debt restructuring that would otherwise have have happened.
None of that happened, instead Greece is now in full chaos mode.
Events are now spinning out of control. The banks remain shut. The ECB has maintained its liquidity freeze, and through its inaction is asphyxiating the banking system.
Factories are shutting down across the country as stocks of raw materials run out and containers full of vitally-needed imports clog up Greek ports. Companies cannot pay their suppliers because external transfers are blocked. Private scrip currencies are starting to appear as firms retreat to semi-barter outside the banking system.
However, it is not just Greece which is sliding into total chaos - so is Europe itself, where the splits are becoming so obvious none other than the head of the German Institute for Economic Research said "What Is Happening Now Is A Defeat For Germany."
The entire leadership of the eurozone warned before the referendum that a 'No' vote would lead to ejection from the euro, never supposing that they might have to face exactly this. Jean-Claude Juncker, the European Commission's chief, had the wit to make light of his retreat. “We have to put our little egos, in my case a very large ego, away, and deal with situation we face,” he said.
France's prime minister Manuel Valls said Grexit and the rupture of monetary union must be prevented as the highest strategic imperative. "We cannot let Greece leave the eurozone. Nobody can say today what the political consequences would be, what would be the reaction of the Greek people," he said.
French leaders are working in concert with the White House. Washington is bringing its immense diplomatic power to bear, calling openly on the EU to put "Greece on a path toward debt sustainability" and sort out the festering problem once and for all.
The Franco-American push is backed by Italy's Matteo Renzi, who said the eurozone has to go back to the drawing board and rethink its whole austerity doctrine after the democratic revolt in Greece. He too now backs debt relief for Greece.
However, as if oblivious to these terminal developments within her own union, Merkel is already pushing onward and discussing plans for humanitarian aide and balance of payments support for the drachma: if there was any clearer indication that the Eurozone has been an abject failure, it would be the treatment of one of its member states as a 3rd world African banana republic even before it formally withdrew from its quasi-prison.
Some within Syriza realize that it is all coming to an end, no matter if the can is kicked one more time (which it increasingly looks like it may be despite the referendum's landslide vote):
Mr Lapavitsas said Europe's own survival as civilisational force in the world is what is really at stake. "Europe has not show much wisdom over the last century. It launched two world wars and had to be saved by the Americans," he said
"Now with the creation of monetary union it has acted with such foolishness, and created such a disaster, that it is putting the very union in doubt, and this time there will be no saviour. It is the last throw of the dice for Europe," he said.
... and yet, in the very end, the Greek prime minister who bluffed and unexpectedly won, now appears willing to concede just about everything to Merkel. Because even if the Telegraph's entire article is based purely on speculation, it doesn't explain the easy with which Tsipras seems to have folded not only on implementing reform as part of the harsher deal proposed by Merkel, but his admission that further debt relief now appears unlikely:
- TSIPRAS PLEDGES GREEK REFORMS AS PART OF ANY AID DEAL
- TSIPRAS SAYS GREECE SUBMITTED PROPOSALS TODAY
- TSIPRAS SAID MORE RESTRAINED IN REQUESTING DEBT RELIEF
And from the president of the European Council:
.@atsipras committed to present a new request for a programme within the framework set by the ESM Treaty, incl. strict policy conditionality
— Donald Tusk (@eucopresident) July 7, 2015
Because in the end money talks, in this case €120 billion in hijacked unsecured liabilities known "deposits" and politicians walk. As for those millions of Greeks who gave Europe the symbolic middle finger on Sunday, their reaction when they just find out they were sold down the river once again will be all that matters.
Yet in the end, Varoufakis' line may again be the most important one: "they had already decided to push us out." If true, then as Juncker threatened earlier not only will the last day for the Greek government be Monday, but so will the last day for Greece in the Eurozone.
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Well, sucks for him. In a few months it will probably suck for me too.
The Law of Unintended Don't Wish for What You Want Because You Just Might Get Something or Other.
Poor guy shoulda done a McCain bus exploration trip to find out what his subjects wanted.
yes thats a sarc because he's already supposed to know
"You know, at heart I am really just a socialist pussy...I didn't really mean to strap on a set of nuts...."
He seems like a genuine piece of shit. Real similar to Obama. Maybe thats why they're phone buddies.
So we're merely watching theater as these politicians plan the break-down of the nation state.
Correct Pinto. This smells worse than a bowl of 5 day old sun-ripened calamari.
I smell GLOBALISTS at work.
From the telegraph, but just crazy enough to be true.
From: www.judicialwatch.org THis was in an actual email obtained from the CDC. Me thinks someone or someones are about to get fired.
There it is folks, one of our leaders letting the truth slip out, he has no clue what he is doing. Now the stakes were huge here and we have not clue what the results will be, but what about when the repercussions of our "leaders" are based on failed ideologies and have even bigger repercussions.
http://www.biyokulule.com/sawiro/sawirada_waaweyn/Ultra-Orthodox%20Jews2...
Ambrose Evans on coffee break outside the Telegraph copy office. Always remember who your editors are.
OPAaaaa
I was OT so you might as well be also. The original link I posted was to Judicial Watch not the Telegraph, but hey what the heck run with it for your agenda. Please try to stay on the correct off topic.
Claven you obviously are one of the fools in that picture who thinks the world Revolves around them. I was not off topic and was not commenting on your comment. Read the top of the ZH story and see that the info is from Ambrose of the Telegraph. I would not consider myself off topic, but you certainly are. Sounds to me like you are about to lose it and go Postal.
I don't believe him. If they wanted to lose they could have worded the referendum differently. It was picked to win, not lose. He could've lost it if he wanted.
TOMORROW, THE BRICS DISCUSS A PACKAGE FOR GREECE.
ARE THESE ARTICLES FROMT WSJ / EVANS-PRITCHARD PSYOP TO UNDERMINE THE GREEK GOV?
There are games within games. Perhaps the plan was to give them no choice but to pivot to Russia all along....? This smells way too much of Western Propoganda, which will likely backfire.
What a PR coup this will be for the BRICS and anti-globalists, if the Evil Germans kick the starving Greeks out, and Mother Russian and the Chinks come to the rescue.... Boyaaah.......
Greece doesn't need to join any block.
They could issue a new stable drachma with silver backing.
Not likely to be well received:
http://greece.greekreporter.com/2015/06/27/greek-investigators-report-finds-evidence-of-plot-against-former-pms-life-silver-drachma-plan/
Cosmos, sorry, my agenda was to throw in some funny and I did not realize the damn jews were at it again, thanks for correcting me and getting me back on topic, I mean agenda.
Just another example of the type of morally corrupt fuck that runs/whores for important gov. jobs.
"Obongo claps with raised golf club"
'Damn' Cliff you are going postal.
In the FINE print of the article:
"French leaders are working in concert with the White House. Washington is bringing its immense diplomatic power to bear, calling openly on the EU to put "Greece on a path toward debt sustainability"."
"DEBT SUSTAINABILITY"; SUSTAIN THE DEBT; MAINTAIN CURRENT DEBT LEVELS; EQUILIBRIUM OF INDEBTEDNESS; FRENCH AD AMERICAN SUSTENENCE BECAUSE OF THE GREEK DEBT... The WORDS really have a TRUER MEANING, you know.
The French and the Americans WANT GREECE to sustain current DEBT LEVELS. (HELL, they want the WHOLE WORLD to stay in debt!)
DEBT! PERPETUAL, 'SUSTAINABLE' DEBT!
Does anyone else see something wrong with this 'future', COSMOS?
HMMM.
Let's see. WHO runs the ficancial 'central banking' institutions in these nations? Can you name the names? WHAT are the families, again, and WHERE did they come from, again? I seem to have FORGOTTEN...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJR30CQpPdQ
The truth must really SUCK when you haven't been made aware of it, COSMOS.
Fucking KIKES...
Oops..
...wait. is this The Onion, or is this Zero Hedge? Did my browser get screwed up?
soak it all in...and remember it as the dominoes continue to fall all through Europe, credit seizes again like it did in 2008/9, markets crash multiple times worse than they did at those same times, your 401k's and IRA's get murdered worse than 50% all over again...and the dollar gets wiped out along with all other fiat currencies from the hundreds of Trillions of CDS's and CDO's and bonds world-wide that are all tied together in this astronomical Ponzi scheme.
Once again...asking over and over and over again...Get out of the banking system now as best and as much as you can and get your ass to stacking supplies and physical silver.
Because there's a word you're going to get to know very well which is going to dominate your life after the shit hits the fan, and that word is "CONTAGION".
Everything...all debt is tied together all around the world. The powers that be have next to nothing left in the tank to keep papering over their debt and derivatives...and that means the CONTAGION...just like the Ebola virus is going to sweep through all world markets like a hot knife through butter...like a hot virus chowing through everything it comes into contact with causing it all to bleed out in a very bad way.
It's going to kill a lot of people. Because when the markets die, people will die...big time.
But if you gear up now and get ready for it you just may have a fighting chance to survive it to the other side...because it's not a matter of "if" anymore...but a very short matter of "when" the CONTAGION begins to eat its way through everything around the world...and you will be more prepared than 90% of the rest of the people around you who can barely even tie their own shoes much less understand the world geo-political and economic concepts and dangers that will directly affect all our lives in a very deadly manner in the not too very distant future.
Ignore all these warning signs at your own peril.
The only thing I can attribute the act of NOT preparing for this inevitability at this point would be utter ignorance, denial and/or the act of deliberate suicide.
Blah blah. What's not crashing? Bitcoin - have some for free: http://freebitco.in/?r=25727
If this isn't a smear campaign hit piece then what is?
It has so many contradictions that I wonder that so many people at zh really take it serious. Goes to show how easy it is to manipulate people. from tsipras supporters to "fuck this guy" all it takes seems to be one wildly speculative article by some Evans-Prick-hard. Go figure!
Wouldn't be surprised if he laughs his ass out about anyone who took this story at face value. It reads like fiction, written in a haste and by making things up from one line to line to the next.
British press trolls on. Another day, another load of crap right on the front page. Never trust MSM, never.
What's the plan? Throw everybody over 40 into the wood chipper?
Exactly. "Evil Western Bankers demanding their money or elsel", or kind hearted BRICS underdogs of the EAST offereing a hand.
By this time next week Greece will be part of the BRICS economy. I would dare say they will veto NATO too.
Ambrose was kind of an activist when he was going after the Vince Foster story. Then he shut down, disappeared and reincarnated as a financial journalist. Raises a lot of questions to me, like after you've seen the naked evil in action, how do you go back to just playing along, "reporting"?
... "It all started with a report by the Telegraph's Ambrose Evans-Pritchard..."
... ...'Telegraph'... 'Ambrose Evans-Pritchard' ... is the story believable? ... ... a tabloid trickery? or simply the work of a 'smear artist'? ...
... is he a 'British Intelligence asset'? ...
"British Intelligence asset Ambrose Evans-Pritchard was deployed to the United States at the end of 1992, following the election of Bill Clinton, under the cover of serving as the Washington correspondent for the Sunday Telegraph of London. Following in the tradition of his father, the famous anthropologist Edward Evan Evans-Pritchard, Ambrose came to the United States to profile the U.S. population—not only to study the citizenry, but also to determine how to mobilize the “indigenous” population against its own government. By the time Pritchard left the United States, about a year ago, he was reduced to publicly defending himself against EIR’s charges. “Let me state for the record that I was not sent to Washington as part of a British government plot to
destabilize the Clinton administration in revenge for U.S. meddling in Ulster,” Pritchard wrote in the April 20, 1997 Sunday Telegraph. “Or at least, I don’t think I was.” ..."
...'British scandal-monger'? ...
... It’s very difficult for a journalist to write that type of book about their own country; they can’t continue to operate and function, as a journalist. If I did this in London, about the British power structure, I really couldn’t continue to work there.
—Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, C-SPAN, Oct. 26, 1997
... source: "Ambrose Evans-Pritchard: the hyphenated hoaxster" >>> http://www.larouchepub.com/eiw/public/1998/eirv25n25-19980619/eirv25n25-19980619_044-ambrose_evans_pritchard_the_hyph.pdf
... I wonder who is currently yanking his dog leash ...
You want more proof of The Daily Torygraph manipulation?
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/feb/17/peter-oborne-telegraph-hsbc...
What is this with Ambrose-Pritchard anyway? If I wanted to sniff his breath I'd be over at Naked Capitalism.
Ajax don't publish the truth Cliff may just start stalking you.
AEP is the perfect officially sanctioned media troll. It would fit perfectly withinin The Economist establishment rag, except I suspect he wants way more money and... recognition ;)
interestingly, AEP is the most vocal "EUR-basher" among British journalists. how do you square that?
discredit Tsipras through hit pieces like this one.
Collapse the Greek banking system plunging the country into turmoil.
Proffer a savior with a solution.
The unpalatable "shitty deal" will taste like summer wine.
You, Mantis, and Pinto have it right.
"Tsipras wanted to lose" - I never heard such obvious bullshit in my life. Suuuure, Tspiras WANTED to lose -- which is why he protected the integrity of the vote, worded a clear question, did not give the MSM any euro-positive soundbites, and also insisted that Greece could not pay ALL THIS TIME instead of selling out to the eurocrats at any point along the way. Oh, and why he made all those speeches about the Greeks taking Europe back from the people and The Bell Tolls For You. He was just pretending the whole time! Tyler, do you have an attention span of more than 5 minutes on this Greek stuff?
Do you have any - ANY - evidence at all for such a claim, or are you simply believing the MSM as usual? Even a shred of evidence will do. Hint: a tardly claim from an MSM rag is NOT evidence.
Memo, no? Government source, no? ANYONE Greek or within 100 yards of the negotiating team, no? Speech by Tsipras, no? Monkeying with the vote count, no? OK, so it looks like this is all: Bullshit. SON O' Bullshit.
Tyler is carrying water for the ECB propaganda team. Again. 'Smatter, Tyler, that USD/EUR investment not working out as well as you hoped? Or do you just enjoy bankster cock.
Article gets a "1". Really, Tyler, you need to get your head out of your ass and apply some damn LOGIC. Stop being such a credulous fool.
3 much better articles, here:
http://thesaker.is/greece-is-being-hit-theres-no-doubt-about-it
http://thesaker.is/statement-of-alexis-tsipras-after-vote-on-referendum-...
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.ca/2015/07/always-another-last-ch...
Jonathan Perkins says Greece is definitely being "hit". This is obvious, and I agree 100%. Shame on Tyler for uncritically promoting economic hitman propaganda.
PS: Refresher on Tsipras' warning: The Bell Tolls For Europe
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article50901.html
But yeah, secretly all this time he WANTED the Greeks to vote for slavery to the banksters...!!! Tyler, Tyler, lift your damn game. If you're gonna fall for propaganda, at least wait for the less OBVIOUS stuff, can ya do that for me? This doesn't even have the usual MSM anonymous 'sources' behind it for God's sake.
+10.000!! Bravo, Renfield!!
One or two more pieces of this propaganda bullshit that Tyler endorses (where are the cirical questions here that he usually asks ?) and zh will be a closed case for me. Sorry and sad to say it, because I really enjyoed the site. But it seems after becoming an ABC media outfit it has come full circle now. A bit more of this garbage and we can say RIP, zerohedge.
+100
My thought, this article literally makes no sense at all. Politicians want to stay in power, that's their very esence. And I'm sure Tsipras will try to do the same and if he had wanted a deal he could have had it on June 25th..so either he's super naive and did everything Varoufakis told him to, which I don't think or we have the typical MSM article posted by Tyler to confuse everyone.
If he wanted to lose, he wouldn't have raved about the the release of the IMF docs stating that Greek debt was unsustainable.
On the other hand, why did Varufakis have to leave office, if the intent was to win?
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There is clearly a lot of diplomatic pressure from Washington, otherwise the IMF would not have come out pre-referndum in support of debt re-structuring. Washington obviously doesn't want to see Greece, a NATO member, fall into the open arms of Russia and China.
So the interesting thing here is that Merkel seems to be standing firm. Perhaps she is just waiting for The Fed to foot the bill but, hopefully, it MIGHT indicate that Europe is finally prepared to chart an independent course, which MIGHT be the beginning of an independent foreign policy? If so, then something positive might have resulted from this mess?
Merkel is useless. Its the rest of the Germans pushing for independence that she's trying to reconcile with her role as fat, slouching, bankster whore.
wow, I just cant believe that Merkel would really have the courage to kick Greece out??? I wont believe it, till it really happens. It would be a miracle. And it could also mean that Germany now really IS with Russia. One of such signs was when Germany allowed their EON energy company to make the agreement with Russia about the new gas pipeline directly from Russia to Germany. Putin obviously bribed Germans with - "Hey, what if we will make you (Germany) the energy hub of Europe as well, not just Greece (which is unreliable anyway). And you will have the direct access to our gas without any country being able to cut it off!" This must have been something Germans could not refuse, no matter what pressure from Washington. And it must have bloated their self-confidence:-) Some American journalists already called this recent gas deal between Russia and Germany the "new Molotov-Ribbentrop gas pact." How funny. Well, we shall see....
That is a very interesting thought.
Fucking 1984-ish, in fact.
'We have ALWAYS been at war with EURASIA'!
Sincerely,
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From Reuters and absolutely true:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/07/07/mfglobal-settlement-idUSL1N0ZN...
I'm sure Corzine's pissed if he loses even a penny of his Loot. However, as long as the Wall Street Crooks do not go to jail, the frauds, theft, and laughter [by them] will continue.
Reuters that breathlessly warned us about Syrian poison gas attacks.
Corzine did not lose a penny of his loot. From the Reuters link
"All denied wrongdoing, and their insurers will cover the settlement payments, court papers show."
I am curious as to the names of the 're-insurers' that are left with the bill; and which institution 're-packaged' this 'RISK ASSET'.
Of course, I am wildly speculating, but is American International Group (or one of the subsidiaries thereof) involved? Weren't they the ones that got the MAJORITY of the FIRST bail-out under Bush the Younger, back in 2008; because of 'speculative losses' (like underwriting crooked cocksuckers like John Corzine)?
Gerald Celente (and the Stupid Sheople Private Investors Of The American Public) deserves to know why Johnny-Boi ('Guido') Corzine skated the LAST TIME ('MF Global', et.al), as well as THIS time.
OF COURSE, there was no 'wrong-doing'. It was a 'failure of imagination' (classic excuse, used during the 9/11 hearings), combined with the 'Dyson-Boson Effect of Unpredictability of the Emotional Reactionary Time-Diluted Cross-Current of Herd Mentality in High-Risk Investment Trading Strategies For The Long Term' which caused a few to profit enormously; while most were left thinking their investments were 'safe'; only to find that they had lost EVERYTHING.SEE! Everything is, as it should be!
You, you simple, enedumacated 'being', simply cannot grasp the 'larger truth'. FERENGI RULES OF AQUISITION, #31: If you can't dazzle them with your brilliance, BAFFLE THEM WITH HIGH-SOUNDING LEGALISTIC SCIENTIFIC BULLSHIT!
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In a court filing, the investors' lawyers said the $204.4 million recovery represents 18 percent of the maximum reasonably possible, an "excellent" result given that MF Global went bankrupt.
Steal 1 Billion and pay back 200 million, sounds like crime does pay. I shoulda went into banking instead of mail delivery, WTF.
DISGUSTING!
MF Global and Crozine, et al. flat-out STOLE money -- now can "re-pay" 5-cents on the dollar which, when added to the other 13-cents, gives victims the whopping 18-cents on their dollars STOLEN.
This is "good" because of the bankruptcy -- but that should have been thrown-out and denied based on the underlying theft and fraud!
And NOBODY is going to jail. NOBODY is being tried for massive theft or gross negligence or reckless conduct.
If Corzine has a place to live -- outside a prison cell -- this is just another example of "justice" for those politically connected versus "justice" for the resty of us commoners.
One more nail in the coffin of what used to be the United States of America.
Interesting suggestion that the youth vote was the force behind the 61% landslide ...
... especially since the question in their eyes was,
"Do you want to fucked in the ass for the next 50 years?"
I wonder why they voted "NO!" ?
The smell of Globalists at work is always there - it just gets stronger every now and again.
As for the calamari, I'll just assume!
Tsipras 'intended to lose' by campaigning forcefully every day for a no vote. Mmmhmm.. some way to lose/win a vote!
There's so much being written about this right now - so many contradictory points - pretty hard to take much of it seriously. We'll see what happens in the next week.
The ONLY answer that makes any sense is that GLOBALISTS were merely setting the stage for the false East-West "Good" vs. "Bad" NWO paradigm.
Think about it...
Tsipras campaigning for "No" now says he wanted a "Yes"
German Finance minister Scheauble said if Greece votes "No" it can still stay in the EU. (that can't help)... http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-06-30/schaeuble-said-to-see-...
The IMF agrees with Greece that debt relief is necessary... http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/03/business/international/greece-referend...
Varoufakis knew a parallel currency and a plan for continuation was required if not only to strengthen the negotiating strength of Greece at the table... yet something or someone stopped him.
This referendum was set up to take Greece out. It was wired to implode like WTCs1,2,6&7.
GLOBALISTS!
People can be made anything under enough pressure. Does anyone believe anything being said by any player here?
Opposition to the oligarchy must be discredited.
Tsipras campaigning for "No" now says he wanted a "Yes"
He didn't say that, article claimed that. Also claims Eurozone leaders more or less wanted a no, were moving in that direction anyway. Pretty handy.
Unexpected event:
"It's all priced in"
Unwanted democratic outcome:
"this is the result we wanted"
Yea, this article has the ripe stench of propaganda bullshit.
Pritchard has been 'all in' for about 15 years. Nevertheless, he gets the story out (for those who can read between the lines of the published 'HEADLIES').
In order to understand TRUE EVIL, one must immerse themselves in it; to grasp the fuller and truer goals and machinations of it.
FOR EXAMPLE:
HOW do you KNOW that smoking pot is bad, if you haven't smoked it yourself?
Tsipras always appeared to me as a 'compliant' politician. A 'Rand Paul' archetype, as it were. TALKS the BIG BULLSHIT, and all; but fires his FINANCE MINISTER when the SHTF. He appears to be a Lindsay Graham or a Mitt Romney, in fact.
I'd like to know why he doesn't follow the example of that nation ICELAND, and hang the fucking bankers in his nation.
NAY, it is TOO LATE. Should have done that in 2011.
TOO LATE.
It's OBVIOUS.
He obviously just got the latest season of HBO's VEEP for that bright idea....
Or the next year, or the next decade. Wake me up when they finally tell the Euro Meisters to fuck off; and become Greece again.
Putin should take out a loan from the EU, buy Greece, move Russian troops and set up bases there, default on that debt and dare Europe to kick him out.
Hells yeah.
That's some chess, bitchez.
The article made it clear that no one wants to be blamed. History will remember the sound bites and the summaries of the politicians. Tsipras is covering his ass in this threatrical play. So is Merkel. They all are. The way I see it shaping up is that it was the people of Greece who decided. And no matter what happens, and I think it will be bad, thats the way it should be. The politicians only feather their own beds. If their retirements are secure they feel they have won.
Yep, it's Kubuki all the way down. Tsipirisisis is in trouble now, tho. He'll have to return the bribe money he already took for losing.
Telegraph's Ambrose Evans-Pritchard I read this guys stuff and he is mostly a clueless shill: Propoganda piece, this is designed to cause chaos in the Greek people get them fighting between themslves, don't fall for it.
As if Tsipras would admit to any of that shit.
We have a real problem here sir.
Yes, let's get that Victoria Nudleman bitch on it, she's a real cunt-fire.
Already on it, sir.
It's hard to imagine he isn't going to be a DEAD piece of shit if he doesn't make some hay out of the OXI...
November 17th Movement still has die hards that have not been caught.
It wouldn't surprize me at all if Tresparis gets whacked either by hard left or hard right. In about a week he'll have them both after his ass.
Rock = European banksters
Hard Place = Greek people
Have a nice day :-)
Rock vs hard place The Greeks are way ahead of you: it's called between Scylla and Charybdis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Between_Scylla_and_Charybdis
There ain't a thing on this earth the Greeks haven't already written about...
He just opened the door for all other European nations to dump the EU with the landslide vote. Then it just won't be one nation saying 'No'. It'll be ten...then eleven...then twelve...etc...etc...all of them saying 'No'. What then?
It makes no difference...
The best thing for Greek in the long run is getting out of the euro.
The euro sucks donkey dick !
The best thing for humanity in the long run is getting out of the present banking system
You were close!
As China spirals down to reality and...
..the EU collapses Keynesian style, we can finally string Krugman up by his nuts.
You presume much.
I'll see his Krugman by the nuts and raise him a Corzine ass first on a pike.
How's that for presumption?
Those are beautiful visions of a future we can all value--and I'm straight.
We've been living in this artificial world for such a significant fraction of our cognizant lives that it's easy to just accept our lot--until you read a little history: when injustice is broadly recognized--remember the internet?--there is No Place to Hide; No Way Out; No Peace of Mind; No Nothing that Resembles Freedom and Control over One's Life: The Oligarch's and their cheerleaders are in for a world of hurt--and that is the best case scenario.
I believe it was Churchill or maybe Gandhi who said, "you don't buy a strap-on if you don't intend to fuck someone." Truer words were never spoken...
I think it was Gumby who said that to Pokey.
You might wind up in Gitmo for that one.
"I think it was Gumby who said that to Pokey."
I think it was Myra Breckinridge who said that to Uncle Buck Loner.
Gore Vidal was way ahead of his time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9Hkcq1gR14
Pretty sure that was Reggie to Bathhouse.
But isn't this what the polls actually showed? The Greek people don't like the terms for their current set of credit cards, but they have no desire to close the accounts (i.e. leave the Euro).
Tsitsi the fly was set to sell out all hope either way, and despite the flying rhetoric, the Greek people don't have any higher aim than to get the ATMs flowing again without having to pony up too much (or anything).
Socialism at its finest and now it's time to play Russian roulette with an automatic pistol, so insert the magazine, rack the slide and lets get this party started. I wanted last weekend that a 'no' vote would speed this process up, but we're approaching EU dissolution at a truly amazing speed.....
"The hard part about playing chicken......is knowing when to flinch"
"You arrogant ass.....you've killed US !! "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEiHxV2JuPw
Yes, never remove the safety on a torpedo, the bitch may turn on your own boat.
From what I can tell Golden Dawn was the true opposition which is why they were rounded up and jailed.
These guys are delivering Greece to the butcher.
In the end it is about Eurasia and WWlll that TPTB are cooking up.
Simply insane message management. Both Tsipras and Varoufakis need a primer on public relations and media communications. First - do not express new positions prior to clearing them with your boss (Varoufakis). And for crying out loud - never complain about the burdens of winning. What gets me is that the Greek people appear to have more faith in these guys than they have in themselves. Could it be more bizarre?
This story reeks of BS. Are we seriously expected to believe that a referendum was called in the hope it would be lost? An alternative explanation is that having lost the referendum plan B for the bankster elite is discrediting the Greek government to the point they collapse and then installing bureacrats.
the only loser tomorrow will be germany. you can't say no to usa.
tomorrow in germany, people will understand the cost of grexit. And thursday the parliament will vote yes to negociate.
LOL
this calls for williambanzai7
They should go back to the drawing board and elect Varoufakis PM...
This guy can't even be trusted as far as you can throw him.
well lets see how the whole saga plays out over the next few days - but not sure why A E-P is feeding this particular mis-information now
re outcome of referendum, there was never really a contest the way the 2 choices were phrased. Expecting a different oucome would be like expecting turkeys voting for xmas
Varoufakis needs to be put in charge of the nationalized central bank.
The PM can stand on his head and whistle Dixie for all it matters. He is a useless figurehead with an ego.
Varoufakis will have to figure out how not to get assassinated.
... and if ISIS was anything other than a shoddy CIA mercenary army with no real skin in the game, their first target would be Basel Switzerland. But it is not, so it will not be. Chop off the head of the central bank empire and stop all of the regime change for the purpose of debt enslavement.
Sounds like a plan...
Tsipras is not the one that is trapped.
It is the Greek people that are trapped because they have neither the leaders nor the resources to endure the "economic blockade"that Europe will impose on its banks and economy.
The only question is whether the Greeks can precipitate a panic on world markets by defaulting which might in turn bring down the whole Debt Tower of Babel.
Ummmm, and who elected these leaders? Seems to me the Greeks got what they wanted with the election of Tsipras.
Could it be that their "choices" on the ballot are about as real as ours in the USA? I'm already nausiated at the thought of voting in our upcoming national election....
(puffs on pipe): Yes, yes, one is reminded of Obama or McCain (chuckles).
Then don't vote.
The lesser of two evils is still evil.
If you vote you are agreeing to go along with the game and are therefore complicit in the crimes of government.
The Greeks aren't going to get what they want and they don't know what they need.
Curtis to Greece:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVANQheoRUw
"Well, son, your bystanding days are over! You’re in it now, up to your neck! They told me that you’re a genius with explosives. Start proving it!"
-Gregory Peck in the Guns of Navarone.
The Telegraph? Definitely true then and most certainly not propaganda.
I call BULLSHIT.
The Finance Minister left because the EU demanded he not take place in negotiations. Done! So start negotiating then or they will just bring him back in.
Maybe Pritchard got paid off for an elaborate pump and dump. If the money's big enough, anything's possible.
UK Telegraph owned by the elders of Zion
Just like the rest of the UK press
and the US press.
and the press in all of Europe who are Rothschild gangbangkster client states
70 percent of Americans no longer trust the media to tell the truth. For good reason. They don't.
If mentaly every time you read western news sources you imagine this guy handing you the story. Would your perception of the news change? I know mine did.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/03/article-2533468-1A675D08000005...
OPAaaaa
Oopa Khazaria Oopa. Its a song.
"UK Telegraph owned by the elders of Zion"
lol. are you trying to write, in different words, that the "Elders of Zion" have something against the EUR?
Mr. Pritchard has been used as a tool by smart crows before. Distracted by politics when its follow the money. Another derivatives fuse on another set of CDO's has been lit by no payment made. tick. No payment by x, y and z, tick. none by a, b, c through ccccd yet. Tick. Tick.
Lots of stories by Chris Whalen Tyler lately?
..."Mr. Pritchard has been used as a tool by smart crows before."
... according to this write-up about "the hyphenated hoaxster", >>> http://www.larouchepub.com/eiw/public/1998/eirv25n25-19980619/eirv25n25-19980619_044-ambrose_evans_pritchard_the_hyph.pdf ... Ambrose Evans-Pritchard of the Telegraph tabloid was 'allegedly' a "British Intelligence asset" ...
...I wonder what his 'motives' were/are and whose lap he belongs to in this Grexit dog fight ...
Where is Vince Fosters Ghost?
The days of reporters chasing stories are over. Vested interests now chase reporters with preformed articles needing to express what they can't say publicly themselves. So, they get an "independent" journalist to do it for them.
Using Think Tanks is so 1997 now.
So a politician is trying to put on the public front of supporting the people he is supposed to represent, while in fact further in debting them. Instead, he is so incompetent that he actually (and very accidentally) let's his country find a way out from under the bankers thumb?
Another fucking real life onion headline in the making...
"Corrupt Lying Politician Accidentally Increases Countries Freedoms. On Accident."
ALL BANKS CLOSE IN GREECE!
ZERO HEDGERS. LAMENT!
(True dat...sumpin don't sound right there)
Anywho....FIND OUT SUNDAY!
I would love to see this motherfuckers papers voting slip.
why cant these mother fuckers just take control of their destiny for fucks sake and tell the EU FUCK OFF!
im so tired of this shit........
Until Greece leaves EU they will seek to discredit the party with Balls. Afterwards they will punish them to frighten the other Peripherals.
So take an article from the Telegraph as more Propganda. "Look! They are Gamblers! And Losers Too!!"
Feck Off!!
Exactly. We've already discussed how the EU will punish Greece on the way out, as an example for the others. I can't believe the ZH crowd believes this so easily.
except that the Telegraph is a staunch critic of the EU and AEP is the biggest critic of the EUR
but of course when the Telegraph writes bullshit about the EU nobody on ZH is interested to see the propaganda, and when Ambrose Evans Pritchard writes a piece telling everybody that the EUR will cease to exist tomorrow the "peanut gallery crowd" usually applauds
This guy is apparently a cunt too. Wonder what kind of offers he received to sell out the greek people? Added to my guillotine list
Wasted away again in Blackswansville...
Searchin for my lost derivative default.
Those in the ECB claim there's a Greek to blame, but I know...
It's their own damn fault.
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain (It's time to toss the dice)
Got Karatbars?
I'll take an extra large order of chaos with olives and french fries. Hold the sauerkraut.
Please!
The Wall Street Journal. After the New York Times, the loudest propaganda megaphone in America.
Sorry, Washington Post is the loudest. It's affectionately known by it's nickname: Pravda on the Potomac.
(projectile vomiting on keyboard)
Will Merkel, unlike Hitler, be able to turn Germany's defeat at Stalingrad into a victory?
It looks like she will.
there are long quotations in this piece, whose source is not identified. Telegraph? Wall Street Butt Hole?
THIS IS WHAT REAL PROPAGANDA IS
meme supporting horseshit spewed
to obstruct the creative and intelligent
minds, all around. like a linguistic and symbolic
shock therapy evolved from the crude lobotomy
of earlier times, god bless rosemary
kennedy and her like. but here we are,
subject to this also crude horseshit
propaganda. hey, but i imagine it pays his
bills. you know this pritchard dude is
"probably" merely an "asset", right?
but who isn't? i, for one, would love
to know.
Corporations get you to buy their crap with advertising; goverments get you to buy theirs with propaganda.
Last week Tsipras and 'yes' were the big winners. Today after this piece of propaganda, they are pathetic losers.
There is only one way to outsmart propaganda:
Perhaps Tsipras hedged his bets... certainly more drama to come.
If so, then the people of Greece are much more astute than their leader.
Bullshit. Wall St is fucked here.
Greece now have a purpose to go to Ufa
If only they were all America, then none of this would have happened. Markets would be open, stocks rising, but with plenty of dips to buy to amp the returns, the currency would be soaring, prices for essentials and raw materials crashing, the rich would be getting richer, the poor appropriately dumbed down and muzzled, oh, if only...
I truly hope this isn't true. Heartbreak
it isn't true
So, it looks like Tsipras wants to betray his own people, insanely, from a position of strength.
I hope he has a kevlar jacket and a bunch of armed bodyguards.
Don't worry, smacker, a little girl on Waverly Place found most of your marbles. :o/
I gave all my marbles to a needy cause: you ;-)
Everyone is holding a shit hand, grow some balls and play the game.
So Tsipras goes to the people and says "Do you want to take this deal yes or no". And the people say NO.
And now were supposed to believe that Tsipras has gone begging and accepted the deal. WTF?!
This article smells like a hatchet-job. Sure he may accept "some" policy conditions. That was always the case. The question is which ones and how much debt relief.
The Referendum was about whether to accept the offer and NOT leave the EU / Euro. That decision may well require another Referendum or Election and articles like this are all about that next step.
Is this where the machine breaks and sends the western world into a 3rd world dystopia/utopia like the globalists want?
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
This has to be a joke right?
Or did the author forget the S/C.
It is MSM propaganda and it works. Look at the number of zh comments taking it all in.
Well, whether he planned it or not, the referendum made Grexit inevitable. For the sake of the Greek people, I hope he has a good plan to implement it.
Squandered mandate? You didn't build that...
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